Here's Why I've Bought An FN2 Honda Civic Type R and YOU Should Too
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- Time is running out to experience these naturally aspirated screamers. I share the good, the bad and the ugly having owned multiple examples of the modern classic, yard stick hot hatch.
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Jeremy Clarkson ruined this cars public image. Surprised they didn't chase him for damages 🤭
You are completely right... It had a bad rep before anyone even got behind the wheel.
He never reviewed the 2010 one with LSD. Or the one Mugen M200 made. Or the 2.2lt engine ones. Have they tested the FK2?
Clarksons an idiot. He tests cars on a circuit where as very few people will be razzing the car to that level. I suppose that one gripe he had did hold water where the FN was heavier than the EP3 and only had 1 extra bhp. Trouble was that because the car was heavier, if Honda has rectified that then the under steer would’ve been more pronounced.
I love the FN. I think it was a huge ‘every day’ improvement on the EP3 and hope to get a good one very soon. I agree with James May actually. When you tune a car for the track, it’s only really good on the track and living with it in every day driving does become a bit of a chore.
The FN is by far my favourite type R. Everything before it was too basic, everything after it was just too much. My ex wife described the FK as the Honda Civic ‘Mostly Spoilers’ and she was in no way wrong.
@mojosabien and ironically the EP3 he was bigging up over it was actually slower around the Nurburgring than the FN2 anyway and it was the same story with the TG lap times if you Google them.
It won top gear hot hatch of the year award,that year too 🙁
Regarding the seat height, being short helps alot. It feels like I'm sitting in a spaceship 😂
Feels like I’m sitting in space it’s that high😂
I think people really underestimate this car. I think it’s aged quite well compared to the EP3, especially as it’s in line more with the FK2/8. It’s got a traditional playable 6 speed manual, yeah it has no torque but that’s the joy of taking it to nearly 9000rpm. For the bang for your buck it’s a smashing piece of kit that handles very well, sounds lovely and fun to drive. Parts aren’t that expensive and the beauty is with normal maintenance that engine will do stupid RPMs well past 150,000 miles. In an era of forced induction and touch sensitive buttons there’s something old school about it.
I reluctantly sold my FN2 back in July. Yes, July 2022.
Miss it so much, I'm thinking about buying another one in the new year 😁
I need that VTEC!!
Had mine nearly a year, wanted one since they came out and it didn’t disappoint, fantastic engine and drivetrain, handles great and looks fantastic, absolute bargain at the moment.
The FK2 Type R and Megane RS both got a rear torsion beam.
With the LSD this works really well on corners, love my Championship White Edition 😍
That’s one thing I meant to add… I can see where the LSD would be useful. You just don’t get that clawing traction feeling without it. Champ white ❤️
@@ScottishCarClan It's one the best mods, also don't forget the replace the heavy factory wheels bro
Whiteline rear anti-roll bar sorts it out nicely, different springs and chamber bolts and a touch of front toe out and it will turn in nicely.....👌
I bought my first honda 5 months ago and whent for one of these, and its honetly been my favourite car and I've owned a few. Brilliant car.
I don't know what camera setup you use but the quality of this video is incredible!
I've had 2 EP3's over a timespan of 7 years. And I have had my fn2 for almost 2 years now. I think the rear beam isn't notticable on a daily ride even if you like to trash it from time to time. It's such a stable, direct and planted car I just don't get where all the hate is coming from. It's like honda managed to create a well balanced car despite the rear beam.
Also when I had my EP3's I would always feel the need to once again own a more modern car for daily driving. Since owning my fn2 I've never felt the need to look at other cars because it does everything so well and it's actually a nice place to be in. Even my Co worker didn't want to believe how old it is until I showed him the paperwork and he drives audis..that says it all. :)
Fn2 is so underrated, for me it's my best car I've owned up till now and I've owned about 15 including 2x ep3, Nissan 200sx, BMW 3, Audi A4, Audi S1, Citroën c5, Mazda mx5, etc..
I completely agree... Something I didn't add to the video and possibly should have is just how much more liveable the FN2 is. Dual zone climate, auto wipers/mirrors, cruise control and so on. My old EP3 was spartan in comparison. Daily dare I say the FN2 is the better car. Thanks for commenting.
I'm looking to buy a Type S as my first car, sadly Type R is out of budget for a first.
@@samconroyy we all started with something else than a Type R. I started with a Peugeot 306 and next a Honda Prelude. 😃👍
You'll have a Type R one day!
People forget Honda’s Type R isn’t the brand to sacrifice something if they wont engineer it to be just as good. They engineer it to be a hoot and like you say unless you’re on a track 24/7 you won’t notice it
@@samconroyy Before my FN2, I had a black (FN/FK) "Sport" 2006 edition, that is like a Type S. If you can get the 1.8L engine one, you will absolutely love it!
I’ve worked for Honda before. You sure have picked very well mate
I loved my FN2 when I got it from new in 08..silver with the big alloys looked great..
Nice video mate! We love the FN2 too!
Already watched your video. Loved the on the move shots ❤️
6:27 Eibach progressive springs are usually the first mod that people do with these.
Had 2 EP3’s and 2 FN2’s, loved them both…also had the Integra type r….the best of the bunch
I have to say the only thing that keeps me out of quite a lot of the Japanese performance stuff is generally stiff riding suspension. It’s nice that they can handle themselves on the track but I’m actually going to be using whatever I choose.
I like my spine.
And sometimes I like to use the cup holders.
See the lights that are on in the car I'm watching you covering that's the ones I want on!
I've had my FN2 for just over a month now and really like it. The roads around me are fairly poor, so I do find short trips pootling around town can be a bit irritating with those extremely stiff springs as you say, but I forget all of that when exiting a roundabout and keeping it in 3rd. The 5,500rpm VTEC level might be a little high but thankfully the engine seems to take it in stride. Only one major issue so far is the bloody undertray has come off and is scraping lol
A friend of mine had. His vtec adjusted down to 4000. It’s made it a really nice car.
Buy some god coilovers
That will do wonders
Even Honda Civic Tourer 1.8 is has stiff springs like driving a Type R except when is loaded with weight.😂
I own this car since 2009. In Milano red with original body kit (black diffuser) and 19" original wheels.
It's just a thing of beauty.
Had mine since 3 years old and 17k miles. Never missed a beat in over a decade
The FN2 looks and sounds awesome, i would have this over a turbo charged car any day.
Thanks for video. I'm now crying ! ,...I sold mine with 83k on clock in perfect condition km08xua .regetting it .but couldn't bear the hard suspension anymore.
Hopefully I upgrade from the 1.8, such a nice car. Unfortunately I can never find a good silver one, seem rare. Plans changed as may have a mortgage so I guess it won't happen for a long time lol.
I absolutely love these, I nearly bought a very low mileage mugen 200 version, but it’s just too slow for me. I landed on the fk2 and remapped it, it’s an animal at 370bhp. There’s still a part of me that misses the true vtec noise. The rear torsion beam is no problem at all, some of the best handling hot hatches have them and unless you’re a regular track user and are going to push the car to its limits you’ll never notice the difference. You’re welcome to try mine.
Too slow???? What’s your daily? A Lamborghini?
@@gf845 lol no. Funnily enough it’s the Type r that came after this, the fk2. I’ve mapped it to 370hp as I said in my post. The thing is for me the fn2 just feels sluggish, personal taste of course.
I think they ruined the type R by adding a turbo. It’s a shame they had to cheat to get the power. The problem is it makes it just like any other hot hatch.
@@gf845 I know what you mean and I thought it was possible until I drove one. The thing is N/A engines that are small for a light hatch just aren’t powerful enough anymore, Honda had to move on to keep up with the market.
I have to say my mate who has the FN2 is addicted to driving mine he loves it and both have their place.
Have you driven the turbo type r? It’s not like any other hot hatch at all IMO, it’s raw and wild. Most modern ones are bland and refined
@@samwilde595 This is true.- I just bought a Suzuki Swift Sport(2014) as a stop gap before a BMW M140I.
Although the swift handles lovely, its gutless and even reving out to 7000rpm in 2nd and 3rd, it couldn't drop my 2010 Ford Galaxy 2.0 TDCI!!
I think i would be just as frustrated with the FN2, particularly as they're quite thirsty for the lame performance.
'Mouse' lol.
Great vid thanks bro. lm probably gonna go for the S GT cos lm old and to save a couple of grand. Can you offer any advice on these, all the reviews on here are for the Type R. lm leaving my old BMW E46 partly cos the clutch is a bitch on old German cars lm hoping its nice and light on this Honda ? Cheers Brov
I just had to get rid of my black one of these as I needed a 7 seater. It still hurts my soul 😫
Brought mine after coming from a free civic 1.6 executive with 164k on clock got 2 year no claims on it, love it never let me down. Dont know if im the only one but i hardly get it to Vtech unless i go on the moterway
Drop the box put you into the vtec zone
I have a 3door 2009 type S that looks identical to this car down to the badges on the wheels.
It doesn't have the power yours has but inspite that i understand why you love these cars so much. Everyone is sleeping on these 3door 8 gens type r and type s.
I had a black, 5drs 1.8 i-VTEC SPORT 2006, and that thing moves. Loved the blue light in front of you. I have a FN2 now, but if only you could change that ot to yellow? I trade in the Sport to a FN2, but I know I loved it. Driving it, I might think that it feels better. Just keep it, other grille ('Mugen') and mine had 198.742Km's. Poor some additionals into the tank, two times. You will hear it spinning again. ;)
I still have my 2008 FN2 as my daily drive. Type R GT with Satnav! Engine is bullet proof. Gear box is still flawless for me despite hearing about all the 3rd gear issues. With many years spent in Scotland itself the underside is now fairy corroded and I have the infamous blistering along the top seam of the windscreen. Many of the heatshields around the vehicle have long since rusted through and been taken (fallen) off. I consider it as saving weight. I love it to bits but it needs some TLC that I just don't have the time (or money) to give it any more.
With around 112k on it's clock its still a champion with so much more life in it. I'll be sad to see it go, but it looks more and more like im going to have to sell it.
Any advice out there where the best place to list a Type R GT with GPS?
I bought my 2008 FN2GT new so 15 yrs old now with only 113k. Look after it like a baby and it won't let you down. The main issues are the dreaded boot leak and the soldering issue on the time display screen.
The handling is unreal on these
Great video, great to see a fellow Scot 🏴 on here doing car stuff, and especially Type R stuff 😂👍🏆 liked and subscribed
Bought an 09 Milano red 6 months ago as a complete impulse buy (I actually went to the local shop to get loo cleaner).. had more than my fat share of hot hatches over 30 years and this is by far the one that gives me the biggest smile. 130k on the clock impulse buy and I didn’t even drive it…. The first week I was waiting for the gearbox problem to raise its head but no…. 1500 miles in and I’ve had no problems. I’ve had to change the drop links and a bottom arm but they were advised on last mot anyway. Fitted a pipercross induction kit is ain’t no way laying out for the HKS bath sponge.
How much did you pay for your one mate? Seriously considering getting one. Currently driving a ibiza 1.2 itech which I actually really like but want something more enjoyable to drive. It's crazy just how much the looks of fn2 have grown on me over the years
£3709 at auction. Took a big gamble but this one paid off. Wish I’d have discovered the K20 20 years ago. Would have saved me a huge ball ache with fords and VWs. FN2 prices seem to be flying up since I purchased it probably due to the fact that the FN2 is ulez exempt and the ulez expansion. This has hit values on the “superior” ep3 and raised values on the FN2. Sometimes you just get lucky.
Mine only had two previous owners and sadly one must have been a woman as it came with the usual woman scuffs and scrapes and 4 Kerbies. Easily sorted though
@@gf845 not a bad price at all mate. Yea, I think I'm looking at around 5-7k for a nice example (would love a championship white one😂).
Appreciate you taking the time to comment, hopefully I can get one soon🤞
Hey man got a quick question for anyone really, just getting into Honda's and looking at buying my first honda type r gt fn2 and seen one the other day. The dealer was straight up about it and said before hand it needs alot of TLC to get in shape so some thing I seen are rust in wheel arches with some small rust holes bottom right/left, calipers and discs rusty and rust along the top window seal (it's an 07 model 100k miles) and some rust on that actual bonnet on the underside around where it locks with a couple of dents/chips/scratches.
The guy mentioned he will fix it all if I wanted the car so he has a body paint guy working on it atm, would you guys say it's worth buying if the dealer properly sorts everything? thanks!
Hey! I’d be cautious as everything you’ve mentioned there is cosmetic / surface level. How about the underside of it? The sills and rear beam as well as the chassis in general are bad for rotting. Have a look at the mot history for it too for a better overall picture. If you search our channel we have an fn2 buyers guide highlighting all the points to check that may be helpful for you
@@ScottishCarClan hey thanks for the reply! The last few MOTS have been good and I did ask him to send me pictures of all the wheel arches and underside when the protective cover is off before any work is done and more pictures after the work is done so I can see how it looks. I'll definitely ask about the back axel aswell and check the sills! If all looks good after the repairs then should be good to go do you think? Garage gives a 6 month warranty aswell and the engine sounds fine, they also mentioned the gearbox is smooth no crunching etc aswell.
I wish they have these in the U.S, such a beautiful car!
Are the not called, Si's ?
Surely the beam is hated because they made the ride super stiff to compensate for the basic rear end and still keep it super planted?
Great cars.
tein and eibach did lowering springs for these bud, about a 10mm in drop, but so much softer on the road. BIG improvement over stock. and no, rear beam did not make any difference 2 a mainly road going car.
As long as you drive like my grandma, that maybe true, but the rear suspension feels horrible if you drive fast in corners, especially with "load change" (don't know if thats understandable) while cornering. It just feels unsafe and it's annoying when you KNOW the car could go faster around corners, if it had better suspension.
Looking at these coming from an is200 because I need some more MPG. What sort of MPG do you get from it on motorway/b roads? I love the k20 sound and powerband so looking at getting one if at the right sort of price
I've had over 40mpg on motorways, but city driving and short journeys I average about 23, depends on your commute I guess. Lots of people say high 20's
I got one love it it’s very solid ride but the vtec makes up for it
These are a great looking car and thinking of buying one,ive test drove a mini cooper s and a megan 22 a clio 197 and yesterday one of these same colour 2008 85k miles £5,600 £500 cheaper than the others and it seems more of a everyday car? And is very clean no leaks underneath is all underamoured ? I think these are slowly going to increase in value like the previous model too.
I am just about to part with my r53 Cooper S after 4 years of BILLS BILLS and more BILLS .....I love the car and use 99 octane , best oils and 4 services in 20k of use...still
Had issues and when they go ...they are fuckin expensive ...
Yes its 18 years old , but 5k +
In repairs and paintwork - fade
Is too much.
Swopping for one of these now and hope the thing lasts me ...
200Kid.
I already have 1 currently on a ban but but still not selling it because I love it so much it’s my 2nd 1 and after 3 ep3’s got that power in my veins 😂🤣
Thanks for commenting. I need to ask then… how do you think the two cars compare? I feel the FN2 still handles great. What are your thoughts?
Oh and can't stop watching this video and it's excellent stuff we talk same language fellow Scotsman check my problem about my VTEC light limiter led 5 screen display factory default can't get into the 8 screen display
Done Kenny 👍🏼 sorry for the delay
Just got your message on Instagram mucho appreciated
@@ScottishCarClan hi did you get a chance to see your busy who has type R?And ask him to look at the problems with the centre readouts info screens I've done the same as I've been told how but. To no avail the only thing I can think of which probably has nothing to do with it is the hand brake on light comes on when u start the car but when it's i.n ignition position 2 as it says in Manuel the handbrake on warning light isn't on maybe you can only get to FOR Honda Civic Mk8 SOD module Folding Wing Mirror Shut Off Device 76209-SMG-E01
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Get it between Tue, 29 Nov and Thu, 1 Dec hi bud did you manage to talk to your busy who has a type R?About the menu controlled by the I ..info button on R hand steering wheel controls I'm doing what a few people have suggested but there is definitely a problem with getting out factory default mode The only thing I can see is t working is the handbrake on warning light isn't on when in ignition position 2 with handbrake on light should be on but it only comes on when you first switch ignition on and in driving it should come on when handbrake on warning light but it's not so maybe the OBC thinks the car isn't stationery and it has to be to access the default mode VTEC limited light led rev is when the car is stationary without engine running and if the car OBC thinks that it isn't as it thinks that the handbrake isn't on it might be stopping me getting into screens I know it sounds like a shot in the dark but VTEC is. Definitely kicking in and led light up when you start engine would plugging into a obt find a fault code for this it's very weird any thoughts about it share them with me Have you came across this before
Soz about the end off message it loaded a problem with folding mirrors
Looking at buying one ,I've got a toyota celica 2004
Unpopular opinion here but I actually prefer the interior of the EP3, I prefer minimalist driver focused interiors. The FN2 had a weird driving position and the dash just felt massive. No doubt a better place to be when commuting though. I've had my VTEC fix now so I'd probably take a Focus ST over one of these.
Focus ST driving position is dire, seat is ludicrously high and the whole cabin is naff plastic.
@@GTFour Nope, I have an ST3 with the heated adjustable leathers and it's perfect.
Great review mate, and it looks class in red! I wanted a red one but couldn't find one local without bad lacquer peel, so I ended up buying a bronze one.
It's nice to see someone mention how well balanced it all is as a car, you see so many people saying that these cars aren't great but not bad for the money, but to me it's a cracking car. All you hear about is the torsion beam from people who have never driven one, yet you they don't talk about it when they mention a Megane/ Clio RS 😂 the irony.
Thank you mate! Appreciate your comment. The bronze is a cracking colour.
Yep! It’s as though it’s a safe bet to hate on I feel. Clarkson informed a lot of people about it who otherwise wouldn’t have known or cared and it stuck!
@@ScottishCarClan Yeha I love the bronze, just needs to be clean all the time to look good haha.
And yeha 100%, it's crazy what one guy said to ruin it's reputation but at least it's made it more affordable. People are starting to realise though and I think prices will creep up
Eibach progressive lowering springs makes it more soft and handles better it says 35mm but it’s actually 10mm lower change to it your notice a difference
There we go… thanks for this I may just invest and report back.
How tall are you? I'm tired of seats being too small height wise, and it looks like this car will make no exception
I’m 6’1” - the seats are certainly doable with headroom to spare. It’s more the driving position that’s compromised with the seat being mounted a bit high
Nice cars, but the seating position is too high, which is a deal breaker for me. I’m average height 5’11 and my head s nearly touching the roof
I've bought mine last year before christmas...beautiful championship white edition and compared to all my cars i had (3 Fords, 2 Mazda, 1 Nissan, 1Hyundai, 3 BMW, 1 Peugeot) it's the best one...BUT the torsion bar supsension (which is new) makes the car all wobbly. I hate it, because there's nothing you can do about it except spending a ton of money. Now i'm really thinking about selling the car...also, the display has the known malfunctions, but at least that i could fix myself.
I thought the championship white ones came with an lsd as standard?
S2000 gear change is one of the best. Honda know how to make a manual
The thing with these is that the stats boys didn't like them. Would you notice the torsion beam rear on the road? No you wouldn't.
The 1bph increase again, bad on paper but jump out of an ep3 into an fn2 and the difference is noticeable.
Personally I went for an imported Dc5 but as a more grown up and usable everyday car the FN2 is a corker. Especially for the money these days.
Always liked these, only in certain colours though, shame about the ride.
I hope you can help me I'm trying to get out of default mode on multi centre info and I can't get by the speed 30 50 mph warnings I want to turn on the VTEC light limiter on the LHside of dash and l hand rev led display can you please tell me how to do this and get the fault mode on centre info button sel button it's no sat nav but my owners manual doesn't cover sat nav as I thought the 8 functions could only be read on sat nav screen but no manual says you can get to switching on VTEC light by info sel button on SD wheel controls
Push and hold i button on steering wheel. Brings up the menu on the display where mpg ect are displayed. Keep pressing i button then press select button to enter vtec indicator
@@scotbryson8179 thanks mate I've done all the right stuff but can't get by the speed limit 30 50 mph warnings setup it just goes back to that screen the screen display is in the factory default mode settings which I can get but can't get it out of default mode The only thing that's not working is the handbrake on warning light in ignition position 2 which it says you put it in and when. You start the car the revs LEDs light up and handbrake on warning light comes on but when driving it you stop put handbrake on no warning light on dash so maybe the OBC thinks that the car is moving and it's preventing it from accessing the secret codes as. Some call them what. Do you think?
I withdraw the comment about the satñav screen it has nothing to do with the centre readouts info screens which I should get into the VTEC limited light and the LEDs on left side and be able to get them on but it won't get by the speed limit 30 50 mph warnings setup it just keeps going back to that info screen display in factory default mode I should be able to change language and warning messages on the centre readouts Baffled
@@scotbryson8179 if I could get some one to try and enter the vtek readout with handbrake off that would eliminate that theory? Do you have one ?
You guys can buy one of these for 5 grand over there!? Imblucky to find one for 8.
I know im a little bit late as the video is a year old already and prices vary in that time. But what price can you expect when looking for these cars with like 100-200k miles on the clock in acceptable condition?
Seen ones that look decent under 5grand in uk
You've had multiples of these? You've got good taste! 😊 Everyone was slagging these off for not being turbocharged in period, but it is a nice unique point nowadays IMO. They are perhaps not as thrilling to drive as a Clio RS 197 or 200 (incidentally the Clio with more of a longer stroke, torquey engine) but the practicality and space of the Civic makes it a nice package IMO.
I found that fitting wider wheels on the front and setting higher tyre pressures in the rear helped to eliminate the factory 'plough understeer' without needing to resort to mechanical changes to the car. Otherwise the stock damping itself is pretty good and keeps the body of the car pretty well controlled IMO. 🙂
Thanks for the informed comment! More of this would be great 😁 I am very keen to try a 197 or 200, even more so since you recon they’re a bit more thrilling.
What’s your thoughts on the standard spring rates on these? Am I just being an old man or could they do with being a little softened? I’ve had a few messages saying the eibach progressive springs help this.
@@ScottishCarClan I haven't driven a Clio sorry 😟, I'm just going by general opinion and the Best Motoring race where the Clio easily runs away from the FN2 for that, lol. Anyhow, I agree that the standard ride is a little bit too hard so I run 17" wheels which takes the edge off the ride for me.
I see you have Eagle F1 tyres on the car, so probably don't want to change the wheels out. Those Eibach 15mm progressive springs sound promising, I don't know much about them, sorry. In the shed, I have a set of spare Tein S-Tech springs (never fitted) which are supposedly harder rates than stock and tighten up the handling.
If you did consider changing the wheels, I run 17x8.5 up front, 17x8 in the back (I lucked into a set of RX7 Spirit R rims! 😆Mazda fans will be cross with me, lol), with 225 all round like stock (now 45 profile) but the front contact patch is noticeably wider.
17x9 front, 17x8 rear would be ideal I think, that way you could go up to a 245/40 R17 front tyre. Something like stock Accord wheels, 17x7.5, would work too sticking with 225s, or DC5/EP3 wheels but they are only 17x7.
@@ScottishCarClan the referenced race;
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Just, look at my 'avatar' to the left, I am just a fresh owner of a FN2 from August the 10th. It is just, amazing. Mine is stock and pure. No mods, but just the looks, like that 'bra' (sorry, they call it this way). Mine is from 2008 and has 186.000 Km's on it and it purrs like new. I even bought a second gearbox, to place a LSD one time. I know there are some synchro's issues with the gearboxes, but they all Work with a little 'handicap'. My clutch is heavy and going to be replaced. I am just so happy and the sound, is awesome. Have to say, one of the best video's made about it. At 7:29, yes to all of those that think, 'the leg is not coming up in corners' (TopGear). As if, we are always on a track?
I've bought type s 1.8 week ago 😅
Does the timing chain ever need replacing in theses?
Yes and the tensioner
Always laugh about the moaning about the torsion beam rear suspension (mostly luddites). Most French hatchbacks have always used this setup, and in my experience of driving one of these, rear grip was never ever a problem.
I think the fn1 was more aim at the young boy races and the fn2 more family oriented
This car is good for fuel economy
Thats great, but I live in the USA 😢
The mouse is what makes the engine tick. 🤫 don't tell anyone.
Fiesta ST have a bar at the back and people go on about their handling being God mode
Probably because its much lighter and much, much,more torque
How much money should i be looking at for one of these? seen one at 80k miles at £6000 from a private seller but that sounds steep? Prices definitely jumped past couple years too.
I sold this one at 100k miles for £4,400 which I thought was pretty fair!
@@ScottishCarClan maybe 6k isn’t so bad then. Looks great condition. 5.5 would be a no brainer so I’ll probs just not cry over it
Yes, wouldn't pay that.
V power veins
Renault use torsion bar
My NB MX5 had even better gearbox and definitely wasn't 10x more expensive. ;)
Great call… I need to get a proper drive in one of those
Jeremy Clarkson slated it
In Poland we call them UFO because of how it looks. Sadly new generations lost that uniqueness
What’s your thoughts on the newest one? They seem to have toned it down a fair bit since the days of the fn2, even the fk8 etc.
The "UFO" comes from the grille, Type S style. TopGear called it an 'trofee' window or sorts. That is when they reviewed the light blue one.
@@bobanmilisavljevic7857 👍🥰
The reason the seats are high is because they are right above the fuel tank.
Hi, I'm selling my 2010 Type R Euro in Red once I get the front and rear brakes replaced with some brembo ones. It's done approx 65k, has the usual paint issues but overall a fantastic car. Anyone out there who is looking for one let me know and we can discuss. Not going to ask for top money just a sensible price with the status of the car as is.
Send me an email grant@scottishcarclan.com - very interested as a channel car!
Type R always come standard with a pair of Air max
I've driven the ep3 and fn2 and even without rear independent suspension the fn2 corners so much better. The ep3 is to playfull, the fn2 really grips and gives you much more feedback, the chassis is something that isn't on the specsheet but it's much more important than the suspension, especially in this car. Would it be better with independent suspension? Yes probably but it's already alot better than the ep3 so it's still a step up. Don't listen to Clarkson to much and drive one if you have the chance
This civic cost 15k€ in italy 😂
Wow! I thought it may be more but that’s crazy.
15 16 here and Australia as well 😂
Would love to own one of these, but the cheapest of these on my local market starts at $70,000 , with a limited lifespan of 4 years left.
Yes, this is Singapore.
the hate comes from its looks, as a honda owner and lover myself, the FN2 is (respectfully) fucking hideous.
I think it’s aged quite well! I wonder if in another 20 years it’ll look better. It’s got that quirky, jap thing going on.
@@ScottishCarClan the way car designs are going nowadays i see what you’re aiming at. Would much rather own an FN2 than something that looks like the new prius (more common worldwide than you’d expect)
Jump scare Christ
Ive never seen the UK version before and omg its godawfully ugly in every way
2 liter diesel will smoke the civic type r fn2!!
Especially re-mapped!
@@oceandrive7283 not necessarily remapped
But will that Smokey diesel rev to over 8000rpm and give you a buzz everytime you drive it? Didn’t think so
@@steviefn2typer 😂😂😂 type r isn't even fast, all the noise and it's screaming at red line. You call this fun? In a type r you can't even feel the speed. Even my makita impact has more torque than the type r 😂
@@k-9k-97 so you’re a type R hater, enjoy your rattly old diesel ya🤡
Can’t agree I’m afraid, Exterior and Interior are one of the ugliest about. Also handles like a bus compared to the EP3.
Bet you never even drove one lol
@@Hondafn I haven’t. But I’m sure there’s a reason why they are pretty much universally disliked and seen as a downgrade from the EP3.
@@alexstewart612 don’t knock it till you try it you might actually like it despite the exterior desing
@@alexstewart612 I like it more it’s more planted in real life situations roads and not as skippy as a ep3 I like the fn2 more and I’ve had ago in both own a fn2
@@alexstewart612 i thought the same until I drove one. Standard they are not all that but with a exhaust, remap and lowering springs they come to life. EP3 are more raw but the FN2 is another level interior and has way better steering
Wish they cost 4-5 grand where I live. Find any decent under 7 grand and you are a lucky 🥲