I got my Eyes of Tomorrow this week on my 89th clear with max lootable clears. It does exist but I share your sentiment Travis. Something is wrong if it takes that many clears. Luckily I got mine before it became a dead raid.
I'd like a PVP game type where everyone just starts out each round with the same weapons and power. I think it would be fun to have like a random game type.
i feel your pain Travis... took me until my 56th lootable clear to get my eyes.... also regarding cross play i think a major thing people are overlooking is the voice communication party system (each console uses thier own party chat system and PC players use discord i assume)..using in game chat seems ok until some1 gets disconnected and noone can remember the LFG players name
@Johnny Silverhand they just blocked a mod because it does the same damage In pvp as in pve, wich it shouldn't!!!, But I guess you missed that one, mr. Educated.
I am wondering if Destin and Travis actually played enough of the Season so far. I mean, if the story is not compelling now that we even have Eliksni in the city messing around with vending machines (lol) I don't know what Bungie needs to do. Caiatl and Crow will show in the lore, read the lore! 😂 Loving the loot so far, have 5 MW Chroma Rush, Gridskipper is amazing, Farewell is great...what do we want more?
they both have terrible commentary. I truly cant watch this show anymore because literally every IGN employee on this show knows little to NOTHING about Destiny at all. I understand they have other obligations prob but then dont do the show. Id much rather just watch Paul Tassi's channel on its own. Its a shame too because i loved fireteam chat a long time ago
Even a competitive game like overwatch had to iterate their whole team format at the start. They created quick play classic and allowed people who like the old team concept vs the current to play their own playlist.
I'm at level 30 on the season pass and I have already completed 3 of ada-1's bounties (and I just picked up my fourth to do). It is convoluted no doubt...way too involved. But the grind is not that terrible, just give it some time. The cap, yeah that is dumb.
@Johnny Silverhand its not massive but yes, I have played a bit. I know people > 50 and a few > 100. I also saved bounties, so I was at 11 on day 1. On my ada 1 bounty fifth now. The ada 1 raid bounty was easy to do on day 1 vault of glass.
@Johnny Silverhand Def not in the top 5%. Maybe top 30-40%. Its not 100% about time. Do all bounties, all the time. And I haven't even been playing pvp this season. Usually I hit 2100 glory on the couple weeks to help power up.
@Johnny Silverhand actually, that goes pretty fast just playing, couple hours. But most have been complaining about the bounty itself and how long it takes to complete. The strike, crucible, and raid bounties do not take long to complete at all. Yesterday i hopped into the new 6 man matchmade seasonal activity and everyone was 40-60 on the season pass. Everyone was at least 10 higher than me. Still the 5%? Ha
Well, that sounds more like a problem with you than the actual game. There is new six-man activity, fantastic new story/lore, fantastic new weapons to chase, and a raid. If you are a PVP player, then maybe I can see where you're coming from, but even then, that’s a ton of content to ignore casually.
All I want to know is ... who at bungie played pvp with stasis in development and never thought for a second it would be even close to a sandbox issue . instead they must of said ~ " the community is going to love this".
That’s the thing. Probably no one play tested it. Lol. Being frozen is one of the most infuriating things in any game and yet. They keep it in the game
Did y'all know you can only hold 750 sythnstrand at once ..... Bro they capped the amount of resources you can hold in order to buy the transmog bounties
The whole transmog process was meticulously created by bungie to be overly conveluted with multiple layers of grind and caps to heavily encetivise spending. Welcome to D2s free to play mechanics yet you still actually have to pay for all relevant content. Thought bungie was supposed to be more consumer friendly after leaving Activision.
this is by far the best loot weapon drop ever. the chroma is a beast in PVP and also the pulse rifle, I feel like the crucible is more fun when all these weapons perform so well altogether. had a great 37 kill game yesterday with the auto rifle...
Stasis does not need to go out of PVP; that theory needs to be tested better, and I don't think it is true. I think a good way to test it would be to double each of the playlists, with one side being stasis-enabled, and the other being stasis-disabled, and see which kind more people play. Or, maybe have a rotating playlist where every other week is stasis-enabled, and see which week is more popular. Make it be an option, instead of deciding that it absolutely must be removed for everyone, or must be enabled for everyone.
Exactly. A barebones game mode. But lore wise it wouldn’t make sense. To be lightless. They could’ve did this back when the red war was going on after ghaul took our light away. Missed opportunity
Aeon gauntlets should have a setting that makes you immune to all stasis (still take the damage), and nothing else. Can't be equipped on stasis classes. Watch the PvP playlist balance itself in a month.
Great episode. You guys had some great feedback for bungie. IMO: Pros: Story, Lore, Sound design, new weapons, 6 player matchmade activity (thank goodness for matching) the look & visuals of Override are at the best levels we have seen in Destiny. Great stuff IMO Cons: the PvP stasis & players leaving is an issue. Sounds like an “Optional” playlist for light/dark classes is needed. Also the VOG is out, it’s beautiful in 60 FPS, next gen & PC but they added far too many mechanics. Players (casual players) have been begging for less mechanic heavy raids and my friends lists shrinks more & more when bungie adds more mechanics to raids. VOG will be lfg nightmare & folks will stop running it the minute they get right drop. The hardcore (Gigz & Slayerrage) will moan it’s too easy and needs harder mechanics. Once again we need OPTIONS. Add 4 modes to raiding. Easy Casual (kill oracles any order, less adds, less communications & mechanics required of players), a normal mode, a hard mode, and an insane slayer & Gigz mode just for them. Or all these players that don’t get what they want ( aka have fun) will leave to play other games & less money spent at Eververse... It’s your call Bungie, ball is in your court.
destiny wasnt made for pvp. It was an add on late in development by Activision. Its always been the weakest part of destiny. I dont see that changing at all. Because if they dedicated a lot of stuff to PvP one season, 90% of the player base will freak out because PvE should be the only focus of destiny
Would be great if they somehow turned an Exo into a crazed Vex Mind. Maybe Vex Clovis or a resurrected Vex Cayde (would allow to give him a different voice). Maybe give him his own faction of Vex. Would add the villainous face.
Disablihg Stasis in PvP is not a fix, that’s a band-aid fix to a bigger problem. As someone who plays equally PvE/P, I enjoy Stasis in PvP. I still enjoy PvP to this day and I can be hours playing or even a full week sometimes. It gives a new playstyle that we haven’t seen before. I do believe it has a spot in this game. We cannot go out and say to disable every new subclass they introduce because it doesn’t solve anything. I wouldn’t mind a seperate playlist of just the OG classes but not to disable it entirely. I understand the concerns and problems but I hate it when people voice for everyone when there are people like me who enjoy the game for what it is.
Stasis freeze should have diminishing effect in my opininion like 1 minute cooldown (for stasis user) that prevents people to be get frozen full duration again. It can be decresaed to half duration for each freeze. Also supers should not be frozen, instead supers should just take the damage portion of that certain ability, I think.
@HARRYRANTS your toxisity level is too high for a decent conversation and if you want to mock someone go look to a mirror. (I checked your other comments you are just toxic) good luck with your life.
11:55 - "The Hive have never really had strong stories" You're sat under Crota's End and Kings Fall posters Travis... (I know they're Destiny 1, but still..)
well hes complaining about no loot cuz he has stuff to fill those spots....which helped make sunsetting happen.....which he then complained about.....then they remove it and he can grind but again he says he has everything he needs. He just kinda ALWAYS seems unhappy
@@wilhelm2112ryan Exactly. This is common within the community. Complain about an issue, then complain more when it gets taken away. Prime example in this episode. The community hated the FOMO that was introduced last year, and now Destin is bemoaning a lack of urgency. It's tiring to keep up with the circular nature of these complaints. People should accept that this is a game to play and have fun with. I know it's different for folks who make money from Destiny "content", but the vast majority of us don't need to play the game like a job. We play the game because it's fun to shoot stuff with our friends.
@@wilhelm2112ryan I was trying to be nice 😂...but yea, it's fine to be critical when necessary but Destin does come off real negative very often or like he's just doing this for the check. I was thinking "does he want sunsetting back?" 😂 Talking about lack of urgency
@@Lord_Fried Yeah, at what point do you question the logic in hosting a weekly Destiny show, when he clearly isn't enjoying it, or even engaging with the game that much anymore. All of his opinions are just recycled from reddit or twitter, sometimes very blatantly. I haven't been watching regularly in a long time, because it's just not interesting anymore. I miss the days of Jose, Fran, Sean, etc.
Yes and no. From what I've read in the Cinder Pinion armor lore Shaxx accepts Stasis and doesn't want the guardians to hate each other for using it. Ig it's still possible, but you'd have to make a reason for him to want to ban it. The main thing I've seen that he is worried about with it is how the children of the city who aren't guardians are pretending they have those powers.
Way I see it, Destiny's pvp was always an arcade shooter and never should be taken seriously, in a competitive sense. Wait until we get the next darkness subclass in Witch Queen. I don't think casuals really care that much about Stasis, it's a cool new power to use but can also be annoying in pvp.
I don't see much of a problem with slowing people down (aside form the aim penalty which they can easily fix), not so different from getting DoT from solar burning, BUT NOTHING should be able to freeze you except supers.
Only time I play any PvP, is during Iron Banner. The weapons and armour are (IMHO) the only cool thing going on in Multiplayer. Otherwise, I'm a Gambit main (go ahead, and make fun). We just need more than 2 maps after 3 years....
Paul Tassi the pessimistic man in this episode lol, honestly could not agree with him more though. It's nice to see someone having a firm hand towards bungie as most steamers/youtubers cut them way to much slack.
At least make it so you can shoot your teammates out of being frozen! Silly there are so many perks for just using a class ability... freezing with rift, etc.
Yo Travis… I’m sure you’d hate to hear that I’ve gotten eyes 3 times now… I’m not gloating though I will say I’d be more than willing to help you get it anytime my clan and I have no issues there as long as we’re available
Destin, I agree 100% on PvP, they have made no improvements since its implementation, I am sick of the excuses Bungie will not sort it because they can't. I am on the verge of quitting a game i have been playing since day one, granted some of the weapons this season are good, the rest of the season is garbage. Vault of Glass a Raid i have done to death in D1, Bungie need to move the game forward not keep grasping at straws showing no innovation relying on past glories.
Totally agree travis and paul eyes drop rate is still broken and they know it but not admitting it because of more backlash...I was at 38 clears just before patch now at 51 still no drop and I can't get my raid team to go in now easily as they also took the stupid decision to take pinnacle off it too....what a joke for two reasons bungie.
Its like a 3 page long explanation lol. It looks so covoluted and clearly made purposely frustrating with multiple grind layers to transmog 1 piece to incentives spending
I'm not convinced Travis has played Destiny. Can't remember the name of Override, the seasonal activity everyone is grinding, or Eramis, Beyond Light's villain. Thinks the Hive have never had a story (The Taken King) and that Expunge has already started. These are little things, but that's four mistakes in the span of like five minutes, which undercuts his credibility on a show dedicated to providing informed takes on Destiny. Also, I just find it kind of baffling to say there just isn't a lot of story content so far this season, especially if you've played past seasons.
Agreed. I still don’t use it and I hate being frozen. I think Bungie thought everyone would want to use it and now that it’s in and most people hate it. They won’t take it out
@@Justintagious yea I play trials we’ll use to everyweeek and if your not choosing stasis your teammates get pissed and you can’t blame them it’s literally the best and only option
In my opinion, right now in Destiny, I really dont try anymore. There’s no real challenge at the moment. I have no desire to hit max light because there’s literally no reason. I’ll probably play VOG til I get mythoclast then I’m gonna be back to snoozing through activities just to get the weekly rewards. Even with IB, idc if I do good or win, all I know is I’m getting a drop of some kind at the end of the match. I’m just lazily farming rolls that I dont even need at this point. I love Destiny, I love the world, the lore, the gameplay, but it’s not fun to play right now. I still do, but it’s stale. Aside from getting season rewards, there’s nothing to chase. The planets and strikes I really liked are vaulted sooo.....tbh when I’m not farming rolls, I casually stroll through the Hellmouth or Sorrow’s Harbor with Necrotic Grip making trash mobs extinct. Idk, man. I love this game, but it’s not at its full potential currently. I went from playing D2 every day as my hobby game that takes most if my time, now I spent most of my time in the director staring at the same 5 destinations with nothing to really do. Also, I have no reason to chase transmog stuff atm, I have what I like unlocked with what they gave me for free lol unless they come out with something that’ll blow me away or Hive/Darkness themed for the Warlock, I’m not changing my guardians appearance. Let me be clear, I play a lot of Warframe and Division 2 as well and even with that, the first 3 days of the season and I’m already bored. I really just want new activities or game modes. They took more than they’re adding into the game. I understand why, but if I paid money for content make it worth my while if you remove it or make it useless. I know they took sunsetting away, but all the gear I grinded for is still useless and I cant visit those locations anymore. Okay, fine, but at least add something that will feel good after the first week. Each seasonal activity is basically the same thing with like the first mechanic changing. But it’s kill enemies to get a thing, bank that item, kill boss to upgrade seasonal item to keep repeating the process to upgrade the seasonal item (not the artifacts) . I dont count that as new locations either. The only one that was a bit different were the hunts for Crow, but still mostly the same.
Bungie please let us fully unlock our artifact stop trying to make us use what weapons you want every season and let us pic. At a tier section to the seasonal artifact. And let us unlock all the perks. Would make people actually cars about leveling the thing up. After the second week. Maybe add e tier system. Last teir exotic mods. Also maybe ounce you max out you get to pic a few perks that don't disaster at the end of the season. Maybe your reward for leveling up is op mods that you pic that go to your legacy mod section.
As Destin plays half an hour a week to catch up on the story,has little interest in the loot pool and Travis hardly plays any pve although perhaps their take on pvp has merit,I don't always agree with him but Paul is the only person with enough recent overall experience to really have a valid take on the current game as a whole and the new season.
I got a Bungie please: let us customize our emblems anyway we like. For example, I like putting my Crucible kill stats in my emblem and so I got the new Crucible emblem and was excited cause I think it looks cool af but you can't even put your Crucible stats on there. Why? It makes literally no sense whatsoever
One eyed mask and Lord of wolves was horrible and they got that to work so I'm with you Travis . Im hoping they just disable all future aspects and keep it as is without the new aspects from this season of course(with more nerfs) . Bungie was getting close to nerfing it into the ground and all we needed after that was a bump to light sub classes. They killed all of that by adding the new aspects this season .
It took me 57 fackin clears to get Eyes and that was only a mere few days b4 VOG was released. To make matters worse, the gun is meh at best. Shit damage. Death Bringer is the better exotic of choice. Guess Eyes will require a catalyst to make it relevant.
I think he was just proving a point, he’s showing how messed up it is. He also backed out of the Trials match and gave that other team a win. It went viral (destiny viral) as a demonstration of “wow this is broken & messed up”.
You'd like to think bungie is taking notes and wanting to do better...... But you know they're sitting there watching this going "yeah, well you're all still buying it, so why would we want to work harder"
Pvp is definitely a joke right now and at this point they have never gave a damn about pvp from day one and I don’t think they ever will honestly sucks
I agree with Destin on stasis. I know there are alot of people who love it in PVP but I think health of the game wise.... they might need to remove it.
Angrily Left after curse of borsiris and vowed to never come back after 1000s of hours in D1. Seeing hung jury, vision of confluence and the VoG raid being added has been the first time since then that ove considered jumpimg back in. Still probably won't but damn I miss my hung jury.
@@Sspyca i dont care about your friend if 50 to much then 84 time is crazy I haven't touched dsc since to prove a point to bungie their drop rates a horrible and I dont mind waiting I've done it 50 time 3 times a week
The vex threat was basically vaguely explained in the opening and then really nothing since. Just vague "bad stuff" from Mithrax but it hasn't been communicated in a way that's horribly engaging.
what? there's a ton of new weapons this season, from override, 3 new playlist guns, a new exotic sidearm, the pursuit weapon and the nightfall weapons, plus the iron banner ones
Stasis is fun and that's why so many people use it. Good players can do great with any subclass and the people complaining about it are the vocal minority. Removing stasis from PVP will piss off the crucible player base more than if you left it in the game. I even see top tier players while streaming and get frozen once and talk about how Stasis is overpowered and should be nerfed into the ground and then they proceed to drop 65 kills in a quickplay match with a 7.0+ KD while using top tree stormcaller. Everyone that is complaining to the point that they say it needs to be removed is being hyperbolic. I'm a PVP main and I like the diversity stasis brings to PVP for one reason: it slows down mindless shotgun apes. And in my opinion, those are the people that ruin PVP.
Override was probably never a public event, because teleporting to the Vex Network areas would be incredibly difficult to make make sense in a public context. Transmog concerns also seem overblown, Im on my 4th bounty and its only the second week of the season - and I am not grinding for it in any capacity. The pace of it is clearly not all that obnoxious, so the only real reason people are irritated is because it sounds like something they should be irritated by. The cap stands as the most stingy element of the system so far. Stasis concerns are also a lil ill considered - cuz when Light Class abilities are effective, they just kill you. Being frozen also mostly means that your dead but not necessarily! which means Stasis can only be /more/ forgiving than similarly effective Light abilities. Its once again more of just a mental psyche out more than a serious design issue.
"The hive have never really had a story."
The Taken King: Am I a joke to you?
Wasn't taken king about taken?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
@@johnnynicholls1043 Yes, taken, created by the HIVE GOD.
Book of sorrows.
I got my Eyes of Tomorrow this week on my 89th clear with max lootable clears. It does exist but I share your sentiment Travis. Something is wrong if it takes that many clears. Luckily I got mine before it became a dead raid.
I got eyes of tomorrow on my third run of Deep stone crypt.
That is one brave hand for closing the door that way lol
Just saw it and was like, “ oh no, hope they don’t squish their fingers!”
I'd like a PVP game type where everyone just starts out each round with the same weapons and power. I think it would be fun to have like a random game type.
i feel your pain Travis... took me until my 56th lootable clear to get my eyes....
also regarding cross play i think a major thing people are overlooking is the voice communication party system (each console uses thier own party chat system and PC players use discord i assume)..using in game chat seems ok until some1 gets disconnected and noone can remember the LFG players name
Solution: ONLY stasis supers should freeze you! Grenades and abilities should not! Just damage you.
@Johnny Silverhand they can keep it like it is for PvE. They have many things that work different in pVE and PvP
@Johnny Silverhand yes they do! Read the patches.
Solution: make all void abilities drain health, all solar abilities burn, and all arc abilities chain damage
@Johnny Silverhand they just blocked a mod because it does the same damage In pvp as in pve, wich it shouldn't!!!, But I guess you missed that one, mr. Educated.
@@jpp4566 a good idea also!
Some of the first things that happen in the season explain the connection between the Vex and Mithrax...
I am wondering if Destin and Travis actually played enough of the Season so far. I mean, if the story is not compelling now that we even have Eliksni in the city messing around with vending machines (lol) I don't know what Bungie needs to do. Caiatl and Crow will show in the lore, read the lore! 😂
Loving the loot so far, have 5 MW Chroma Rush, Gridskipper is amazing, Farewell is great...what do we want more?
they both have terrible commentary. I truly cant watch this show anymore because literally every IGN employee on this show knows little to NOTHING about Destiny at all. I understand they have other obligations prob but then dont do the show. Id much rather just watch Paul Tassi's channel on its own. Its a shame too because i loved fireteam chat a long time ago
Bro, Saladin was "just a vendor" for two years before he was involved in the story.
This week will make 72 clears, no Eyes of Tomorrow. Stay strong.
@HARRYRANTS coming from the person playing APEX or Warzone prob
@HARRYRANTS shhhh, the adults are talking.
I got mine this week at clear 89. It does exist just keep at it :).
@HARRYRANTS u ok?
How many times have you started from beginning and went all the way to the end?
Even a competitive game like overwatch had to iterate their whole team format at the start. They created quick play classic and allowed people who like the old team concept vs the current to play their own playlist.
I'm at level 30 on the season pass and I have already completed 3 of ada-1's bounties (and I just picked up my fourth to do). It is convoluted no doubt...way too involved. But the grind is not that terrible, just give it some time. The cap, yeah that is dumb.
@Johnny Silverhand its not massive but yes, I have played a bit. I know people > 50 and a few > 100. I also saved bounties, so I was at 11 on day 1. On my ada 1 bounty fifth now. The ada 1 raid bounty was easy to do on day 1 vault of glass.
@Johnny Silverhand Def not in the top 5%. Maybe top 30-40%. Its not 100% about time. Do all bounties, all the time. And I haven't even been playing pvp this season. Usually I hit 2100 glory on the couple weeks to help power up.
@Johnny Silverhand I did not say everyone.
@Johnny Silverhand actually, that goes pretty fast just playing, couple hours. But most have been complaining about the bounty itself and how long it takes to complete. The strike, crucible, and raid bounties do not take long to complete at all. Yesterday i hopped into the new 6 man matchmade seasonal activity and everyone was 40-60 on the season pass. Everyone was at least 10 higher than me. Still the 5%? Ha
Absolutely right about no hook to keep playing, I literally have hardly any Interest this season
Well, that sounds more like a problem with you than the actual game. There is new six-man activity, fantastic new story/lore, fantastic new weapons to chase, and a raid. If you are a PVP player, then maybe I can see where you're coming from, but even then, that’s a ton of content to ignore casually.
All I want to know is ... who at bungie played pvp with stasis in development and never thought for a second it would be even close to a sandbox issue . instead they must of said ~ " the community is going to love this".
That’s the thing. Probably no one play tested it. Lol. Being frozen is one of the most infuriating things in any game and yet. They keep it in the game
Did y'all know you can only hold 750 sythnstrand at once ..... Bro they capped the amount of resources you can hold in order to buy the transmog bounties
The whole transmog process was meticulously created by bungie to be overly conveluted with multiple layers of grind and caps to heavily encetivise spending. Welcome to D2s free to play mechanics yet you still actually have to pay for all relevant content. Thought bungie was supposed to be more consumer friendly after leaving Activision.
this is by far the best loot weapon drop ever. the chroma is a beast in PVP and also the pulse rifle, I feel like the crucible is more fun when all these weapons perform so well altogether. had a great 37 kill game yesterday with the auto rifle...
Stasis does not need to go out of PVP; that theory needs to be tested better, and I don't think it is true. I think a good way to test it would be to double each of the playlists, with one side being stasis-enabled, and the other being stasis-disabled, and see which kind more people play. Or, maybe have a rotating playlist where every other week is stasis-enabled, and see which week is more popular. Make it be an option, instead of deciding that it absolutely must be removed for everyone, or must be enabled for everyone.
I absolutely love stasis in PVE, but I would 100% agree with them disabling it in PVP
They should just make a playlist with no abilities, just gun play.
Exactly. A barebones game mode. But lore wise it wouldn’t make sense. To be lightless. They could’ve did this back when the red war was going on after ghaul took our light away. Missed opportunity
Override needs either less people, or way more enemies.
Due to a weird bug, I did a Moon Override solo... and it was WAY easier than a solo dungeon.
Bungie’s answer to eyes of tomorrow: “You have to earn it”
Im still pissed that my Contender's plate armor for my Titan is glitched out and its missing from my inventory!
Aeon gauntlets should have a setting that makes you immune to all stasis (still take the damage), and nothing else. Can't be equipped on stasis classes.
Watch the PvP playlist balance itself in a month.
What level do I need to be to do vault tomorrow? I’m only 1301
1300 is the requirement
You will be fine. Make sure you have everything you need before entering the raid-fun fact: upgrade everything necessary meta this season.
1300
Great episode. You guys had some great feedback for bungie.
IMO:
Pros: Story, Lore, Sound design, new weapons, 6 player matchmade activity (thank goodness for matching) the look & visuals of Override are at the best levels we have seen in Destiny. Great stuff IMO
Cons: the PvP stasis & players leaving is an issue. Sounds like an “Optional” playlist for light/dark classes is needed. Also the VOG is out, it’s beautiful in 60 FPS, next gen & PC but they added far too many mechanics. Players (casual players) have been begging for less mechanic heavy raids and my friends lists shrinks more & more when bungie adds more mechanics to raids. VOG will be lfg nightmare & folks will stop running it the minute they get right drop. The hardcore (Gigz & Slayerrage) will moan it’s too easy and needs harder mechanics. Once again we need OPTIONS. Add 4 modes to raiding. Easy Casual (kill oracles any order, less adds, less communications & mechanics required of players), a normal mode, a hard mode, and an insane slayer & Gigz mode just for them.
Or all these players that don’t get what they want ( aka have fun) will leave to play other games & less money spent at Eververse...
It’s your call Bungie, ball is in your court.
I totally agree regarding the Crucible. It’s a hot mess. I’m pretty much out until they fix it.
destiny wasnt made for pvp. It was an add on late in development by Activision. Its always been the weakest part of destiny. I dont see that changing at all. Because if they dedicated a lot of stuff to PvP one season, 90% of the player base will freak out because PvE should be the only focus of destiny
Would be great if they somehow turned an Exo into a crazed Vex Mind. Maybe Vex Clovis or a resurrected Vex Cayde (would allow to give him a different voice). Maybe give him his own faction of Vex. Would add the villainous face.
Disablihg Stasis in PvP is not a fix, that’s a band-aid fix to a bigger problem. As someone who plays equally PvE/P, I enjoy Stasis in PvP. I still enjoy PvP to this day and I can be hours playing or even a full week sometimes. It gives a new playstyle that we haven’t seen before. I do believe it has a spot in this game. We cannot go out and say to disable every new subclass they introduce because it doesn’t solve anything. I wouldn’t mind a seperate playlist of just the OG classes but not to disable it entirely. I understand the concerns and problems but I hate it when people voice for everyone when there are people like me who enjoy the game for what it is.
Stasis freeze should have diminishing effect in my opininion like 1 minute cooldown (for stasis user) that prevents people to be get frozen full duration again. It can be decresaed to half duration for each freeze. Also supers should not be frozen, instead supers should just take the damage portion of that certain ability, I think.
@HARRYRANTS Professor speaks, all listen to this guy he has the greatest ego.
@HARRYRANTS your toxisity level is too high for a decent conversation and if you want to mock someone go look to a mirror. (I checked your other comments you are just toxic) good luck with your life.
Ada was also supposed to sell mod components too but isn’t. So no mod fix for our new players.
11:55 - "The Hive have never really had strong stories"
You're sat under Crota's End and Kings Fall posters Travis...
(I know they're Destiny 1, but still..)
Destin, seems like you're just experiencing a bit of burn out dude. Happens to all of us with Destiny.
well hes complaining about no loot cuz he has stuff to fill those spots....which helped make sunsetting happen.....which he then complained about.....then they remove it and he can grind but again he says he has everything he needs. He just kinda ALWAYS seems unhappy
@@wilhelm2112ryan Exactly. This is common within the community. Complain about an issue, then complain more when it gets taken away. Prime example in this episode. The community hated the FOMO that was introduced last year, and now Destin is bemoaning a lack of urgency. It's tiring to keep up with the circular nature of these complaints. People should accept that this is a game to play and have fun with. I know it's different for folks who make money from Destiny "content", but the vast majority of us don't need to play the game like a job. We play the game because it's fun to shoot stuff with our friends.
@@wilhelm2112ryan I was trying to be nice 😂...but yea, it's fine to be critical when necessary but Destin does come off real negative very often or like he's just doing this for the check.
I was thinking "does he want sunsetting back?" 😂 Talking about lack of urgency
@@Coco-ib5wp Exactly. Listening to Destin talk is like scrolling DTG on reddit. Same back and forth, complaining and apathy. It's tiring for real
@@Lord_Fried Yeah, at what point do you question the logic in hosting a weekly Destiny show, when he clearly isn't enjoying it, or even engaging with the game that much anymore. All of his opinions are just recycled from reddit or twitter, sometimes very blatantly. I haven't been watching regularly in a long time, because it's just not interesting anymore. I miss the days of Jose, Fran, Sean, etc.
Agreed, i have been saying this on the forums for a while now, "separate stasis from pvp."
Anything special for Episode 300? I wonder what guest they will have on!
Say no to rage
@@garycannon2887 Hopefully CJ Gibson
@@garycannon2887 lol... that would be awesome
Funny enough, the recent Overwatch 2 stream showed they’ve removed freeze from Mei xD
Shaxx outlaws darkness powers in the crucible. It can even work within the confines of the narrative.
Yes and no. From what I've read in the Cinder Pinion armor lore Shaxx accepts Stasis and doesn't want the guardians to hate each other for using it. Ig it's still possible, but you'd have to make a reason for him to want to ban it. The main thing I've seen that he is worried about with it is how the children of the city who aren't guardians are pretending they have those powers.
Honestly think stasis isn't too overpowered atm in PVP, definitely needs some tweaks but I've adapted and not hating it completely unlike at launch
Way I see it, Destiny's pvp was always an arcade shooter and never should be taken seriously, in a competitive sense. Wait until we get the next darkness subclass in Witch Queen. I don't think casuals really care that much about Stasis, it's a cool new power to use but can also be annoying in pvp.
Time gate tencent getting your hands on just about every game now 😔
I think Bungie should handle the vex like star trek did with the Borg
Amen
I don't see much of a problem with slowing people down (aside form the aim penalty which they can easily fix), not so different from getting DoT from solar burning, BUT NOTHING should be able to freeze you except supers.
Only time I play any PvP, is during Iron Banner. The weapons and armour are (IMHO) the only cool thing going on in Multiplayer. Otherwise, I'm a Gambit main (go ahead, and make fun). We just need more than 2 maps after 3 years....
Happy Friday fellas
Paul Tassi the pessimistic man in this episode lol, honestly could not agree with him more though. It's nice to see someone having a firm hand towards bungie as most steamers/youtubers cut them way to much slack.
At least make it so you can shoot your teammates out of being frozen! Silly there are so many perks for just using a class ability... freezing with rift, etc.
When you get frozen in crucible your legs should only get frozen so that you cannot move. But you can look around and shoot back.
Yo Travis… I’m sure you’d hate to hear that I’ve gotten eyes 3 times now… I’m not gloating though I will say I’d be more than willing to help you get it anytime my clan and I have no issues there as long as we’re available
Destin, I agree 100% on PvP, they have made no improvements since its implementation, I am sick of the excuses Bungie will not sort it because they can't. I am on the verge of quitting a game i have been playing since day one, granted some of the weapons this season are good, the rest of the season is garbage. Vault of Glass a Raid i have done to death in D1, Bungie need to move the game forward not keep grasping at straws showing no innovation relying on past glories.
Agreed. I wish I wasn’t so addicted lol. If I wasn’t I would have quit a long time ago
So much for Destin not being on the show much. Is that 3 weeks in a row!!
Totally agree travis and paul eyes drop rate is still broken and they know it but not admitting it because of more backlash...I was at 38 clears just before patch now at 51 still no drop and I can't get my raid team to go in now easily as they also took the stupid decision to take pinnacle off it too....what a joke for two reasons bungie.
Oh I can’t even remember how to transmog. Haven’t used it yet and I’m season level 50.
Its like a 3 page long explanation lol. It looks so covoluted and clearly made purposely frustrating with multiple grind layers to transmog 1 piece to incentives spending
@Eugene Oisten you should have, make sure to do it vertically for it to work right
@Eugene Oisten is ok my B, then just do it horizontally if you are still set on it.
Just disable all supers in pvp and only allow supers in mayhem.
I'm not convinced Travis has played Destiny. Can't remember the name of Override, the seasonal activity everyone is grinding, or Eramis, Beyond Light's villain. Thinks the Hive have never had a story (The Taken King) and that Expunge has already started. These are little things, but that's four mistakes in the span of like five minutes, which undercuts his credibility on a show dedicated to providing informed takes on Destiny. Also, I just find it kind of baffling to say there just isn't a lot of story content so far this season, especially if you've played past seasons.
he only plays pvp. so obviously hes just stupid
They need stasis to not be in competitive, it’s the best class to use and your automatically at a disadvantage choosing any other class
Agreed. I still don’t use it and I hate being frozen. I think Bungie thought everyone would want to use it and now that it’s in and most people hate it. They won’t take it out
@@Justintagious yea I play trials we’ll use to everyweeek and if your not choosing stasis your teammates get pissed and you can’t blame them it’s literally the best and only option
Stasis needs its own playlist. That’s the solution. Compromise.
Ada still has 2 forges left on Earth and Nessus but bungie probably won’t bring them back.
Tomorrow we unleash hell on the vex and die many times .
Yes! Let’s gooo!
destin nailed it on pvp. i get frozen out of my super and i instantly leave.
Stasis should be a PVE thing only, or have a mode for it, putting it slap in to all PVP, it's just so annoying
In my opinion, right now in Destiny, I really dont try anymore. There’s no real challenge at the moment. I have no desire to hit max light because there’s literally no reason. I’ll probably play VOG til I get mythoclast then I’m gonna be back to snoozing through activities just to get the weekly rewards. Even with IB, idc if I do good or win, all I know is I’m getting a drop of some kind at the end of the match. I’m just lazily farming rolls that I dont even need at this point. I love Destiny, I love the world, the lore, the gameplay, but it’s not fun to play right now. I still do, but it’s stale. Aside from getting season rewards, there’s nothing to chase. The planets and strikes I really liked are vaulted sooo.....tbh when I’m not farming rolls, I casually stroll through the Hellmouth or Sorrow’s Harbor with Necrotic Grip making trash mobs extinct. Idk, man. I love this game, but it’s not at its full potential currently. I went from playing D2 every day as my hobby game that takes most if my time, now I spent most of my time in the director staring at the same 5 destinations with nothing to really do. Also, I have no reason to chase transmog stuff atm, I have what I like unlocked with what they gave me for free lol unless they come out with something that’ll blow me away or Hive/Darkness themed for the Warlock, I’m not changing my guardians appearance. Let me be clear, I play a lot of Warframe and Division 2 as well and even with that, the first 3 days of the season and I’m already bored. I really just want new activities or game modes. They took more than they’re adding into the game. I understand why, but if I paid money for content make it worth my while if you remove it or make it useless. I know they took sunsetting away, but all the gear I grinded for is still useless and I cant visit those locations anymore. Okay, fine, but at least add something that will feel good after the first week. Each seasonal activity is basically the same thing with like the first mechanic changing. But it’s kill enemies to get a thing, bank that item, kill boss to upgrade seasonal item to keep repeating the process to upgrade the seasonal item (not the artifacts) . I dont count that as new locations either. The only one that was a bit different were the hunts for Crow, but still mostly the same.
This is a product of players not wanting challenge and wanting loot from everything for no effort.
Bungie please let us fully unlock our artifact stop trying to make us use what weapons you want every season and let us pic. At a tier section to the seasonal artifact. And let us unlock all the perks. Would make people actually cars about leveling the thing up. After the second week. Maybe add e tier system. Last teir exotic mods.
Also maybe ounce you max out you get to pic a few perks that don't disaster at the end of the season. Maybe your reward for leveling up is op mods that you pic that go to your legacy mod section.
The narrative hook will definitely get stronger. Just wait....
As Destin plays half an hour a week to catch up on the story,has little interest in the loot pool and Travis hardly plays any pve although perhaps their take on pvp has merit,I don't always agree with him but Paul is the only person with enough recent overall experience to really have a valid take on the current game as a whole and the new season.
I got a Bungie please: let us customize our emblems anyway we like. For example, I like putting my Crucible kill stats in my emblem and so I got the new Crucible emblem and was excited cause I think it looks cool af but you can't even put your Crucible stats on there. Why? It makes literally no sense whatsoever
Destin why do you keep calling him "ma-ryan" 🤣🤣
That's the name of our producer for FTC and SHE is awesome. You don't see or hear her, but she's there in the background helping us out!
@@TieGuyTravis ooooohhh hahaha I thought he was messing up Brian
One eyed mask and Lord of wolves was horrible and they got that to work so I'm with you Travis . Im hoping they just disable all future aspects and keep it as is without the new aspects from this season of course(with more nerfs) . Bungie was getting close to nerfing it into the ground and all we needed after that was a bump to light sub classes. They killed all of that by adding the new aspects this season .
Travis 100% uses anti stasis boots with stasis titan
I think the last season (Caitl) gets woven in later on.
Supers (Arc, Void,solar) should be IMMUNE to Stasis..at minimum no freezing
We are just so used to getting a bunch of shit weapons, so this is the least we should expect now per season. The weapons are great.
It took me 57 fackin clears to get Eyes and that was only a mere few days b4 VOG was released. To make matters worse, the gun is meh at best. Shit damage. Death Bringer is the better exotic of choice. Guess Eyes will require a catalyst to make it relevant.
Siva infected Black Amory weapons and gear would be awesome.
Bungie please stop charging glimmer for mods on armor, It's just a slow process and disincentivizes trying out different builds and mods
stasis should have been ``figured out`` before release. now they just pissing off people.
The guy that done the freezing is an absolute bully, hope he gets the same done to him.
I think he was just proving a point, he’s showing how messed up it is. He also backed out of the Trials match and gave that other team a win.
It went viral (destiny viral) as a demonstration of “wow this is broken & messed up”.
You'd like to think bungie is taking notes and wanting to do better...... But you know they're sitting there watching this going "yeah, well you're all still buying it, so why would we want to work harder"
I never play with stasis in crucible.
Same
20:16 so I can come back to this part
PVP keep stasis in the game but have solar class buffed and certain components to solar class immune to freez
Pvp is definitely a joke right now and at this point they have never gave a damn about pvp from day one and I don’t think they ever will honestly sucks
I hate it. I used to love PVP now it just feels like a big joke
Paul's door is the witch queen
We need a crucible mode where abilities are not allowed.
I agree with Destin on stasis. I know there are alot of people who love it in PVP but I think health of the game wise.... they might need to remove it.
better off removing pvp, it's been bad since destiny 1
23:26 Paul's playing Density?
PVP needs to be treated like scorch cannon games . no supers and no grenades . that’s it. you would see a immediate difference
Angrily Left after curse of borsiris and vowed to never come back after 1000s of hours in D1. Seeing hung jury, vision of confluence and the VoG raid being added has been the first time since then that ove considered jumpimg back in. Still probably won't but damn I miss my hung jury.
Override is horrendous.
Stasis not in pvp would be great. Would solve all issues.
Sorry for the comments. I am drunk. Why is it concerning for Destin to see someone spam stasis and then lose a match?
Kujay was the closest at fixing stasis IMO.
God Travis is taking the word right out of my mouth I have 50 clears and still don't have it bungie plz fix the drop rate
My friend got it at 84 you got along way to go
@@Sspyca i dont care about your friend if 50 to much then 84 time is crazy I haven't touched dsc since to prove a point to bungie their drop rates a horrible and I dont mind waiting I've done it 50 time 3 times a week
This season is wayyyy better than last season.
Bring back SBMM and everything will be fine.
Same 7 year old recycled argument. NEEEXT
No destin. I’m a 2500 hour player and this season makes me wanna quit. Pvp sucks so bad it’s horrible.
It’s really quite simple, make Stasis a PvE super only. 🤷♂️
The vex threat was basically vaguely explained in the opening and then really nothing since. Just vague "bad stuff" from Mithrax but it hasn't been communicated in a way that's horribly engaging.
new weapons? mainly black armoury dlc gear
what? there's a ton of new weapons this season, from override, 3 new playlist guns, a new exotic sidearm, the pursuit weapon and the nightfall weapons, plus the iron banner ones
this season feels like bungie just did the bare minimum. the weapons are good, the amour is ok, the activity gets boring real fast.
So basically....Bungie acting normal lol.
Agreed
@@ronnie3044 Seems to be
Stasis is fun and that's why so many people use it. Good players can do great with any subclass and the people complaining about it are the vocal minority. Removing stasis from PVP will piss off the crucible player base more than if you left it in the game. I even see top tier players while streaming and get frozen once and talk about how Stasis is overpowered and should be nerfed into the ground and then they proceed to drop 65 kills in a quickplay match with a 7.0+ KD while using top tree stormcaller. Everyone that is complaining to the point that they say it needs to be removed is being hyperbolic. I'm a PVP main and I like the diversity stasis brings to PVP for one reason: it slows down mindless shotgun apes. And in my opinion, those are the people that ruin PVP.
We can't search with the app update. I had to Google to find the video... 👎
Override was probably never a public event, because teleporting to the Vex Network areas would be incredibly difficult to make make sense in a public context.
Transmog concerns also seem overblown, Im on my 4th bounty and its only the second week of the season - and I am not grinding for it in any capacity. The pace of it is clearly not all that obnoxious, so the only real reason people are irritated is because it sounds like something they should be irritated by. The cap stands as the most stingy element of the system so far.
Stasis concerns are also a lil ill considered - cuz when Light Class abilities are effective, they just kill you. Being frozen also mostly means that your dead but not necessarily! which means Stasis can only be /more/ forgiving than similarly effective Light abilities. Its once again more of just a mental psyche out more than a serious design issue.