Acura TLX Type-S Review - Executive Evolution - Test Drive | Everyday Driver
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The base version of the TLX made us rant - can the Type-S version make us rave? We take the TLX Type-S out for a test drive and find who this car is for, the sacrifices it requires, and the great things it offers. Join us for a test drive.
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In other words. A dad sports car 🏎 that doesn't make you look like you're going through a midlife crisis. I'm totally into it.
We picked up a black one with the red interior in early November. My only gripe is no spare tire, other than that it’s a great car.
Edit: max torque from 1500 all the way to 5000 rpm is fucking fantastic. Keep your german cars, most people lease those for a reason.
I was gonna get that one but someone bought it 2 mins before me lol. Blue with black wasnt too bad though lol
Did you have to pay a mark up above MSRP?
Only German cars worth keeping are 911's
I went to see a tlx a spec and was shocked no spare tire
I bought a 2023 Acura TLX Type S with the black exterior red interior. Love the car.
Type S owner here. I agree with you guys, I sometimes find Sport + a bit too aggressive when I am going grocery shopping 5 minutes from home. Sport mode is smooth and powerful enough for pleasure driving. The car is amazing, in my opinion. I would maybe change a couple of corks and features if given the chance, but overall, I would give Acura an 8/10.
I was set up to buy one with a deposit . Black Fridaysale last year 5k for a supercharger kit on my 6m 5.7 Challenger. Got the boost. I do love driving my wife’s’18 MDX Advance. You can really toss that sucker around and does 6.0 to 60.
@NonethelessNone Would love to see that, you have IG?
Same here. The only time I put it into Sport+ is just to hear the sound in a enclosed parking lot lol.
I love that Honda has, at least for my entire lifetime, prioritized the feel of a car over any objective number. People attack the TLX Type S for its quarter mile performance, but the old TL Type S was also one of the slowest in its category in the quarter, as was the original NSX, yet were still among the most celebrated cars of their eras. I think the rise of UA-cam, where you can find dozens or hundreds of heads-up drag races between any two cars imaginable, and the availability of easy-to-access car stats on the internet, has effectively converted much of car culture to that of bench racing, as if these people were NHRA pro drivers who made a living on the drag strip instead of ordinary people that regularly spent hours in traffic or on cruise control at 80 mph in boring stretches of the highway.
Actually the original TL Type S (2001 or 2007) was competitive in those days, they were never the slowest in its class.
I owned two of them and back then they were also $10K cheaper than the competition. Now they want the same or more money than the S4 and close to M340i. I recently got out of a Type S and my new M340i is so much better car. Lighter, efficient, and way more linear plus with touchscreen infotainment. It’s a clear winner
@@Sohail60659 They're still 5-10k cheaper. A loaded TLX Type S costs about the same as a loaded Audi A4 or BMW 330i. You can't actually even get the BMW to be "loaded" in the sense that it doesn't come with basic features like air-conditioned seats that come standard on the Type S.
@@amamiai I've tried to pull up the old R&T comparison but they've really tried to kill it. Anyway, as I recall (for whatever that's worth), it was slower than the Infiniti, BMW, and Audi direct competitors at the time. It was prized, alongside the Infiniti, of being among the most affordable and most exciting to drive however.
That said, it probably wasn't the slowest (and in fairness to me, I said one of the slowest) because back then it could compete with things like Saabs and Lincolns. But not unlike the Civic Sis or the S2000s of the day, none of them were dragsters. Even the mighty NSX wasn't particularly fast in a straight line.
@@Sohail60659 spec a 330i with the same features that are standard on the Type S, the Bimmer costs the same. Now do that with the M340i and the Bimmer is over $10k more expensive.
This is the BEST review hands down on the TypeS, and no it’s not because they like the car, it’s because they know WHY every one else hates on it for not being faster than the competition. However it’s not ALWAYS about who’s faster, truth is, there will Always be someone faster than you no matter what you drive. This car isn’t trying to be something it’s not. It’s Acuras value proposition, you get everything loaded for the price, you don’t have to add anything besides the paint, wheels and tire package.
The free market is built off competition. Bro, my 12 year old G37 Sport sedan was direct competitor for the tl type s at the time, here we are 13 years later and it just barely competes with it lol. I ran 13.4 at 103 mph stock, faster than what most times i see for new tl type s
The Q red sport blows it out of the water and been out for years, same for stinger, g70 3.3t was already out and Acura had time to design a car to be objectively better but voluntarily decided not to.
@@98MAzdaMilleniaS I totally agree with you. I owned an Acura TL 2007 for 8 years. I crossed shopped the IS350 and Infinity G37. I did my own research and went with the car that had enough space and was reliable. I knew what I was getting into. Sure I could’ve bought the G37, however I don’t buy cars based on HP. I don’t race. To each his own, my TL was the best car I’ve ever owned. I drove all three cars, the Acura was perfect for me with enough power.
Why do people keep saying this car is loaded? It doesn’t even have the same options available as the TLX Advanced! In it’s segment, the options available for this car are pretty sad actually. Acura should’ve at least given people the option to get the Type S loaded (ie the options available in an Advanced). Hopefully Acura will add these options during the mid model update because all of their competitors are due for either a refresh or a complete update in the next couple model years.
@@Ih8chew I agree, however I believe it’s “loaded” all in compared to its competitors.
Being an owner of one.. it’s pretty much spot on from what you guys said. Good value, looks, sound and it’s rare as well. Wish it had more power but being a Honda engine… you know tuning is around the corner
I got a 2020 Stinger last year b4 this was made.But these are fantastic cars.I got my car right at the start of covid so I bought it extremely low--it is worth almost 5k more now then when I bought it last year. It is a 2020 AWD GT 3.3TT with 7k miles on it now.These AWD cars in this segment are fantastic--problem is they are now getting very pricey--these are 55k plus--I paid 36k ou the door for my car.One thing is my next "vehicle" will probably be a sporty SUV--cars in this class try and strike a balance--which they do--but honestly they are very good sports cars and still sit pretty low which is the only gripe I have.Nothing better then carving a country road with a sophisticated AWD system keeping you safe as you dip into speeds many cars would be unsafe doing.Good Luck--the next RDX Type S with this engine is highest on my list if it is available in 2025.
The power will be nice, but what it really needs is a transmission tune so it holds gears in Manual mode. The stock transmission tune is the real tragedy of this car.
I have the Type S, in tiger eye Pearl with the performance wheels and orchid interior, on order. I am on the fence concerning the dealer added on options. With the exception of the heated steering wheel. That will be added to the car.
@@stgeorgee you must be in Canada. We don’t get the heated steering wheel in the US.
@@pssita nope in the us of a. The heated steering wheel is an option available for US cars.
Bought a 23 Type-S and totally geeked about it still. Drove the competition and this won hands down and cheaper to boot.
Got mine about the same time. Nice choice!
have logged 3k in my Type S....I've owned them all but if you pay attention, it offers a driving experience not seen with competing brands. Also, nothing in it's class looks like this car in the wild. Side note: the passenger seat adjusts just fine, need to hit the correct levers. Also, back seat room is adequate as well. Both these guys are 6'3" so space behind seats will reflect that. If you're 6'0", or shorter, the space in back will be linear. Great review!
May I ask how tall you are? I went and sat in one in the show room and being 6 foot two I did have to do a little bit of ducking getting in. But once I was in, and I didn’t find that the cabin was small.
I am taking delivery of mine in March. Mine is Apex Blue & I currently drive a 2021 STI Limited. I am super excited.
Getting mine in February. Tiger eye Pearl wit the orchid interior
Did you ever get it and is it worth it. I’m selling my ‘19 Mustang GT 10 speed for this.
I love the Type S so much! I will be in the market late summer of '22. This car is one of my top contenders. Every video like this that I watch makes me want one even more. Such a gorgeous car. I have weighed all of its strengths and weaknesses and I still want one.
Lol, you’ll be disappointed after a month. Get an M340i or S4. Thank me later.
@@HPM2024 I don't want an M340i, nor an S4. I want a Type S and that's what I'm very likely going to get.
@@HPM2024 I cross shopped M340I & S4 but ultimately settled on a TLX Type-S.
@@moonman_8935 sounds awful.
@@HPM2024 It's mind boggling to me that you can't understand that people would like the Type S and even dare to prefer it to your favorite German cars. Different strokes for different folks man! And I have nothing against the M340i and the S4. They're great cars. There's just something intangible about the Type S that I find more alluring. Why does that seem to bother you so much? And for the record, my second choice to the Type S would be the Audi S5 Sportback but it's $15k more, equipped how I would want it. No thanks.
Saw one at the San Jose dealership a few months back when I was getting something done on my MDX. The owner was super cool and showed me around. Looked great stationary and I’m glad it’s swift in motion as well. Thanks for the review guys !
Type S owner here. Love the car overall. Feels unique compared to what is out there. The drive experience is incredible. My only complaint is MPG... Only 20 mpg and it is premium gas. The feel and sounds is really good. There is a balance and stability to this car you can't explain. The AWD system is so precise.
I just leased one. Great car but I'm shocked at how bad the gas mileage is. It really is terrible!
@@rayestefania3725It’s not an economy car. Shocker!
How much@@rayestefania3725
I have a 2010 Acura TL SH-AWD 6 speed manual and I love it! It's so much fun to drive. It's a true luxury sports sedan. It's reliable and cheap to maintain. But of course in order for you to maximize your cars true potential is to tweak it a little bit through some aftermarket modifications. I intend to keep this TL for life and I intend to purchase this new type-s in the near future.
Same bro
I use to have a 2012 auto, loved that car and underrated by far especially yours the manual. Good condition goes for 20g's still
The Acura is the best looking car in this segment hands down.
It is, but it still has faults? I like it and may buy one next year?
agreed!
It's a very good looking car , just the tail lights could have been design to look more premium but all the other edges is sweet
Nope. Giulia.
Nope the IS500 best looking.
My pop had the previous iteration TL type-S manual and it was an incredible car. This looks amazing imo. The design is beautiful but the previous generation was also weirdly packaged inside. The rear seats were all but unusable as well. But the handling the engine was fantastic and with tons more power and torque than that engine this should be a glorious car to drive. I would definitely choose this above the S4, and I am a big Audi fan, but nothing beats Honda reliability.
Unfortunately this wont have “Honda reliability”. It’s extremely complex and for once, new. It’s not an Accord anymore.
@@Mac-xh8zl Do you not understand why it may be a bit slower than the rest of the competition? This car will be reliable and provide better crash protection than competitors. Your life, your choice.
I have two TL TYPE S: 2007 White. Diamond Pearl and a 2008 Kinetic Blu Pearl Very happy with both reliability
We have the A-Spec model of this car and it impresses me everyday🤷🏽♂️
Type S is in another league.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the ct5-v. I'm not sure its better, but I feel it should be mentioned.
Thanks for not comparing this car to dedicated track machines. It's a sporty luxury driver's car and it is what it is!
Luxury? Not heated steering wheel, no power steering column, no heated back seats, no power trunk lid… It is not a luxury car.
It’s a GT car.
Best looking sedan in the market, it's probanly going to last 3x as long as the Germans and keep your family safe in a crash. I like it.
What I love about Honda/Acura is the fact that you will never see an “EX/Si/EX-L, Touring or SH-AWD” without a standard sunroof!
It should have a panaramic one like every other company offers it's like Honda 10 years behind in this area. So the moon roof is what makes not interested. If I'm spending 50k+ it better have all the latest features I want.
@@robertblack6630 neither the S4 nor the M340i offers a panoramic moonroof
I am Japanese. I am very sad that I can't buy this wonderful car in Japan. If you can buy this car, please enjoy it.
Wth is not available in Japan?
@@brana1646Acura is a made and sold in America only.
So glad you mentioned the Stinger as competition. I looked at the new Type S right when it came out when I bought my 2020 Stinger GT.
Same here. The stinger was just a little better in most areas.
At this price the Stinger has a 360 camera and Acura doesn't. Comes in really useful, keeps away the curb rash
@@n_trap_mnt8530 you don't need those cameras, you just can't drive
@@hpickettz34 sounds like you're too poor to afford a car with 360 cameras. Don't be jealous
@@n_trap_mnt8530 my last car was a 2018 zl1, and i have a tlx type s coming next month, don't get mad for telling on yourself you can't drive.
My 75 year old dad just bought a white Type-S, he loves it. Evidently, it was the only one in a 150 mile radius and it was shipped to the dealer by mistake!
Have had mine for about 1 month. I totally agree with you, but have never driven an EVO. Thanks for the review!
Subscribed. I learn a lot with this review. And I’ll hold on to purchasing one until they add at least 5 inches rear leg room. Acuras are always those priced loved purchases for past owners. It grows on to you. Build quality and small touches are always solid experience to enjoy for the life of car. I want to buy this one so much as a all rounder sport luxury and comfortable sedan which Acuras always stood out for TL series. Also, they don’t provide options for 360 camera for full spec out type S. And no violet pearl purple color. I guess may be next year these will be solve and in a heartbeat I’ll buy one. Look forward to more videos. Loving the channel. Very practical and reasonable reviews
I am trading my TLX PMC edition (260 of 360), in for the Type S. I love my PMC for the V6 VTEC sound and how it handles on tight twisties, in sport +. The Type S is a pure joy to drive. I had put aside about $10K, to build up the Engine with some more NA horsepower goodness but the potential of the Turbo charged 3.0 is to much to ignore. I say this as a person who isn’t on the FI band wagon.
I just leased one and I think it is great car for someone that wants a daily driver but also wants something sporty. As you said, it is not the fastest but it is a great value, it handles like it's on rails and it looks amazing! Oh and the stereo is one of the best in any car you will find! I have a dedicated sports car so this works perfect for me as my daily but I would probably not have it if it was my only car. I was also considering a BMW M550 but that was more expensive, the Acura is a little lighter and handles better but mostly, it was a much better value! Oh one caveat, it gets horrible gas mileage so keep that in mind but I guess you don't buy a car like this for the gas mileage. I also really like it because it is a "Type S" that hasn't been around since 2008 so to me it is a little more special than a lot of other cars I could have considered.
This is the car for the single business professional or a couple without kids
Great review, I test drove one at the dealer and to sum it up I was disappointed. It weighs 4200 lbs, has a 3.0L V6 making less power than a B58, the paddle shifters simply don’t tell the transmission what gear to be in and it is freakishly long.
ONE OF THE BEST REVIEW OF TLX TYPE S I'VE WATCHED ! SHEEEESH. YOU GUYS CONVINCED ME TO TRADE IN MY BELOVED 21 BOOST BLUE TYPE R. LOL
What they didn’t like: depth of the passager seat, not low enough. And rear seat room. Both guys are 6’3. Glad I got mine!! Thanks for the video.
I have the 2021 A Spec Version and have the same issues with the interior space. did not pay attention to that until after i purchased it. but i do love my choice so far!
Red shirt guy could disappear and perfect channel
I just want AWD for winter, reliable, all luxury features, with some good power. It's perfect
Good review guys. I have the aspec and at 5’ 7”, I fit fine with wife and 2 kids. But I do agree that more rear leg room along with lighter curb weight would go a long way. Other than that, love the car.
If you want it lighter get an accord mate and more leg room in a sports car ?
@@TheChosenOne32323 very true, just couldn’t get the 2.0t accord during shortage. That is definitely better
I wish Acura would’ve named this The Legend!.. or at least The Vigor…
How bout the NO
Yes!! That’s exactly my thoughts. I’d go with Legend.
Acura was on the right path with this car, AWD, V6, Turbo and Sedan but it's way to big and not as fast as i was hoping for. I was considering this and a few others but I just couldn't get past how big it is so I went with a used RS3 for around tje same price as this was new and couldn't be happier.
Great review! Best quote at 9:37 😂
I bought my 2023 TLX Type S a few months ago, and love it! My 3rd Acura and 4th Honda product. You guys were completely right about how the feel of this car was prioritized by Acura.
I enjoyed this review. The seats look well bolstered and comfortable. I like that the exhaust opens up at the higher rpm.
16:50 -- "It's Dad's four-door sports car, not Dad's four-door sedan" That's why I want it now. To carry passengers, we have my wife's CR-V (and maybe RDX later), while the TLX looks like the sporty commute bomber that I could live with.
(update) I got one! Well, a red A-Spec (the Type-S was still rare and being marked up), but I've been loving it.
I have a GTR and wanted something to daily with turbo and AWD, that was a bit more comfy and sporty and had at least room for my wife and 4 year old. This checked all the boxes. Happy with my choice and it replaced a 2016 Midnight Maxima SR
Love the review. Focusing on the positives except for the obvious smaller interior space.
Can't wait for Acura BEVs with SH-AWD and RWD-biased. Any issue with fuel economy and slighty faulty transmission is gone.
Y’all are over doing it on the leg room part. The 540i is 195.8 inches long with 77.9 inches of combined legroom compared to the TLX that is 194.6 inches long and has 77.3 inches of combined legroom. 0.6 inches more legroom that negligible but no reviewer complains about the 540i lack of legroom.
We hope you get the chance to get in this car for yourself. Very often the stats don’t tell the story.
The stats are only ballpark, there are too many things that impact legroom like the shape of the front seats, where the front seats are positioned, the size of the transmission tunnel, the width of the door sills, the distance between the rear seatback to the edge of the seat, etc.
The Honda Civic actually have more interior room think about that
@@ultimatesecurity55 The Honda Civic also has more combined legroom than an E-class and the Civic is 10 inches shorter than a E-class. The civic has more legroom than all the midsize german luxury cars, so what’s your point?
Seriously? The amount of back seat space between a Type S and the 2018 m550i my aunt has is HUGE lmao. Not even close to the same. I’ve spent time in both (2021 TLX A Spec but same thing space wise obviously).
The Ford Fusion (rest its turbocharged soul) actually had strikingly good rear legroom for a car with that type of coupe sedan styling. Granted, it is a massively long car, longer than most crossovers, but it did make good use of that space. I've sat behind my 6'2" father while he was driving my 2nd gen pre-facelift Fusion and all 5'7" of me fit with some room to spare. So, as a family vehicle, it passes quite well. Mine also has AWD and a mod chip to intercept the MAF and MAP sensors so it can feed the ECU a load of lies about boost and airflow, thus getting me to over 300HP, so it's a dramatically more exciting drive compared to the stock configuration, but you could always have started with the Fusion Sport model to begin with and gotten the V6 ecoboost engine, which is objectively better. It does throw the balance of the car off a tiny bit, but it's forgivable for the difference in power and suspension tuning you get out of it.
I got the Fusion Sport and wouldn't give it up for the Acura.. Yea the Acura is nicer around to the touch and maybe more crisp handling but for what Ford was offering ,you cant beat it. Only 25 horses smaller than the Acura but 25 lb ft more than the Acura. It has AWD and a trick suspension that puts in the same league as the Acura... Ford was on to something.. Sad to see it go away...
Got it. Love it. It's my daily driver!
Looking forward to my commute home and back. Also going out for drives when listening to initial d music. Chef kiss*
It's a reliable 55k car that will last! People who buy this know the euros will beat it but it doesn't matter cuz the driving dynamics is great
I was going to buy an Alfa Giulia, until i researched the TLX. The Acura has superior reliability and quality with the design and engineering i was seeking. I drove the S4 (when I finally found one) and it was very reminiscent of a VW Jetta GLI with more power.
Did u really just say a s4 is reminiscent of a GLI? What tf are u smokin?
I had a 2003 Evo and now my Type S does corner similarly. I really love the looks and feel of the ride. Back seats. Who ever sits in them anyway?
Almost every Honda and Acura product isn't up to par with everyone's expectation, until a few years later when aftermarket hits and the potential of their engines are tapped then ppl start loving them.
If 17:00 isn’t the most relatable thing ever! When will people learn left lane is for PASSING!
If speed limit is 65 then you are LIMITED to 65, no matter what lane you are in. If you are going to "speed up and pass" by all means go ahead and get a $500 ticket, not my problem 🤷♂️
@@VirusZero0140Where i live the speed limit is 50MPH. I often pass by the state troopers doing 70-75MPH. They never pursue. The left lane is for passing. Stop being a self-righteous douche bag.🤷♂️
I bought TLX Aspec and I love it!
I'm still skeptical. This launches harder, but from a roll is not much faster than my previous gen TLX SH-AWD. With tires + suspension my car wakes up dynamically. New car wise, the German 4 banger cars are about as fast, and the S4 has an available TVD. The RWD Koreans have mechanical LSDs and are lighter and better balanced for similar money. It's a tough sell IMO, but people who buy these love them so what do I know
As we all know, the back seats are for when its winter and you need that extra space for the winter tires, come changing time, because you'd want to drive this all year round no matter the season ;)
I actually thought about getting this car but it was much slower than the M340i which I ended up with. The funny part was my m340i ended up being cheaper to buy as I got a $7k discount and the Acura had a $10k market up. I ended up getting the BMW for $54k, the Acura was asking $65k, and the BMW was a much better car.
Much better car in what way? Its hard to turn down a 7k discount but I'm scared for the reliability.
I prefer the Cadillac CT5-V over this. Better space, better performance and the price is in the same ballpark.
I have had mine since August 31. I have had a good mix of driving with 8,400 miles now. Mostly highway commuting to and from work and state to state. It is fantastic at being subtle and comfortable for everyday, but stiffening up and crushing a back road drive on a weekend. It feels like 4200 lbs coming from the 10th gen type r, but the AWD helps hide the weight. I love mine! Hopefully a tune is available soon. My only nit picks are the absolutely useless back seat, headroom is snug for me at 6’5” but I fit, and lastly the servo actuated braking can be quite strange at times. It feels natural 90% of the time but occasionally it just feels like the car isn’t doing what the brake pedal says it should be.
I also traded my type R for the type S and I agree with everything that you said here
We have a new RDX, so naturally i was interested in this. The transmission sucks, it feels over 4000lbs. As an ALSO prior Evo owner, this car is not an Evo. Maybe the new STI might come close, maybe a new GR Corolla, we'll see. Amazing looking car, underwhelming transmission and engine. Needs a healthy 50hp and ftlb boost, plus the trans needs massive reprograming, for the same price, and then maybe. It's such a big car, yet there's no room in the back...
I think if you are my size about 5”10 the room wouldn’t be that much of an issue but having the front seats set for people that are 6”3 yea it’s going to be tight behind them.
They really need a Type S RDX with a new center stack/infotainment system
Would love a 2022 stinger review
how can those rims not crack in public road?
Great review and i have watched a bunch. I appreciate the back and forth debate which answers alot more questions i have than others tend to do. Like the highway get up and go compared to only people focusing on launch speed. I am waiting on the MDX Type S still to decide whether i go a different route but not sure high 60's is worth it???? The stinger is appealing also at this price point but hard to take a Kia over Acura even though they are doing great. I will add that i drove the 2022 Genesis G70 and between the two i think it would be a hard pick because just the infotainment alone is better in the G70 and its a rocket for the same price!
The genesis is just a Hyundai or basically a Kia these days since they share almost everything. Acura will hold value way better and have better long term dependability. Kia and Hyundai are really nice these days but they still don't have the reliability or resale yet. I say leasing one makes the most sense except they don't lease very well like the stinger or the G70 because of there depreciation because I wouldn't trust owning one long term.
Love the show but just wanted to point out one critique. You call out buyers that want a truck but only do a Home Depot run twice a year yet the back seat space is a major issue for you guys. How often do you have an adult in the back seat? And maybe I'm a psycho path, but I don't care how comfortable they are in the back and wouldn't buy a car based on how well back seat passengers are going to feel about it.
Think of this car like buying a pickup with an unusable bed. That’s a pickup that failed at its reason for being. If a four door four seat car can’t be used as a four seater… then we’d recommend skipping the requirement entirely and getting a 2 door 2+2 or straight 2 door sports car. Sedans that don’t fit 4 people encourage buyers to buy an SUV because “cars don’t have enough room”. We discussed this on our original TLX piece. Meanwhile… some smaller 4 doors (GTI? Civic?) Have usable back seats. Thanks for watching and being a fan of what we do!
@@TestDriveVideos That's a fair point. Four doors do have a certain expectation of being a usable back seat. I was assuming they are fine just not ideal but I haven't experienced this car at all. Hopefully one day.
If they had gotten this at least a couple of hundred pounds lighter and maybe an extra 2" in the back seats I think they would have nailed it. I don't buy that form over function argument in the back seats. It just needed to be designed better with so much wheel base to work with.
I bet these guys wouldn't complain if the car came with 450hp stock.
Surprising to hear Honda get packaging wrong when they seem to do it so well in many of their products. The Civic and Accord are so well packaged. It does make it a little disappointing. Kinda wish the upcoming Integra had borrowed more from this car styling wise. There's something that didn't quite translate right when it went from Civic to Acura....
The new Civic looks worse than last generation.
So basically, just get the RDX Type-S when it comes out 😁
That will never be made.
I guys described me well and I love the car for all of what you said and I have a ball. The Tiger Eye Pearl color gets comments everywhere I drive across the country. The grandmother that comments on how "pretty" the car is do not care about track performance.
You guys and every other you tuber keep saying that this car is a great value but the only problem with that is every Acura dealer is up charging at least 5k on top of the sticker. So with that, it’s not a great value.
Which state is it ?
@@Ecuador006 nyc
Not true.
@@stgeorgee ok then which Acura dealer in NYC is not charging over msrp?
@@viper9857 you’re the one making the claim. Back it up, buttercup.
Looks good but that`s about it. C43 AMG or Lexus IS F Sport ( one of the last naturally aspirated v6 )
V8*
Nice Tudor GMT Paul! Is this new or have you had it a while?
9:36 "secretly" lmao
S on the transmission is Sequential mode. You're able to manually shift in any mode (D or S), Sequential is supposed to shift like 30% faster.
I both like & dislike this channel. I like because you give informative and interesting car reviews of really nice cars. I dislike it because most of the time I can’t buy them but that’s my country fault not yours. Do keep up the good work
Glad you enjoy what we do. Thank you for watching!
love your insight reviews! I did wish it was more practical and usable :)
Love the tlx type S and the stinger GT elite but i felt better in a audi s5 in 2020 , the perfect famaly car. It felt better in curves and in general reaction to what i whant from a all around car . I surprise my self to keep looking at the tlx type s . Maby whit a tune and a better exhaust and back diffuser i would fall for it in the futur . Great revues keep the good work your chanel is always easy going , u guys never bash on products and averything is well show3d
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in the used market would you recommend stretching to the BMW 840i gran coupe?
If the BACK SEAT is too small, then Acura engineers should go back to the drawing board, and make the INTEGRA TYPE R, the same shape, and give it 2 less doors.... Acura?? Are you listening/watching??
Since the Stinger GT2 is the closest in size, performance, and price, which one would you buy?
Tough call, probably the TLX, as I don't need a ton of room.
@@JamesR1986 weird though that the Stinger is 200 lbs lighter. The Type S is so heavy
@@n_trap_mnt8530 stinger is not 200lbs lighter. Stinger GT2 AWD 4157 lbs. Only the base GT AWD 4023.
@@Tsand4 mine is a 2019 GT2 AWD which two different sites I checked both list at 4023. Maybe the 2021 is heavier
@@n_trap_mnt8530 I feel like with Acura's SH-AWD, you would have to drive them back to back to see which one feels lighter, if either. *HINT HINT*
Power:weight too heavy, terrible rear passenger leg space for its (long wheelbase) size.
+50HP and a 6MT/DCT away from performance greatness.
Throw in touchscreen infotainment too during the mid cycle refresh Acura.
Around 2010-2015 this car would have been a monster but coming out now it’s a slow turd. Every car in this segment is better in just about every way….it’s interior is little better then the Stinger but the stinger is faster and can be cheaper. Then you have the G70, S4, and the M340 (yes more $$$$).
This is no better than Camry xse or trd lol
I absolutely agree. But there's is one thing the other cars can't do that everyone knows this car can.... last longer than 5 years.
The new Acura TLX has less rear legroom than the Lexus IS and Honda Civic Hatchback. That is absolutely absurd and inexcusable. Maybe a Acura RDX Type S would work better as a volume seller, but that only has room for the Accord/Civic Type R 2.0L I4 Engine. Only the TLX and MDX can fit the 3.5L V6 Turbo engine
I don't think it's good enough and because of that, they limited themselves on how far they can take the performance on the Integra. The 11th generation Civic is a smaller car yet has nearly equal front seat space and an additional 3 inches of rear legroom all while maintaining a larger trunk. Given the new Integra is based on the 11th gen civic, it makes no sense from a business standpoint to ever offer the Integra with decent power and SH-AWD. If they put the base TLX drivetrain with SH-AWD in the Integra and sell it as the Type-S, you have a car with near 300hp and approximately 1,000lbs lighter than this with more usable space for less money. My guess is this car will be the reason the Integra will never see SH-AWD. **Hope I'm wrong**
Not sure why you would ever think Honda would put sh-awd on a platform that has always and will forever be fwd.
If they put SH-AWD in the Integra along with the 2.0 it will be quite a bit less than 1000 pounds lighter but I agree.
@@Ih8chew Totally agree, with added sound deadening and driveline weight. Even 800 pounds is a massive amount given the usable space.
would love a comparison of this vs an M340 x-drive
I have the regular A-Spec TLX and definitely feel that the added power of the Type S would fix all the gripes I have with my regular one. It just needs that added power to carry the weight, and would hugely benefit from proper summer tires. Amazing car all around for my needs, a bigger back seat would make this car 10/10 perfect for me
the Type-S lost to a Kia K5 GT in another video lol
@@moisesojeda1085 if all you care about is drag racing other grown men from traffic lights then get the Kia if it makes you happy?
That same car with the bigger/usable back seat is the Stinger
@@moisesojeda1085 no it didn't, the Type S gapped the Kia K5 by 2 bus lengths, lol.
@@TheBreakfastLover from a dig-yes, but not from a roll. The K5 spun out because of its trash all season tires but with some good summer tires it will close that gap from the line
Acura gives us a beautiful sedan with a sophisticated front suspension and bespoke engine and these guys can’t get over the rear legroom. If a customer needs versatility they’ll go the crossover/SUV/minivan route. Move on guys. Judge the vehicle for its intended purpose. I’d estimate 90%+ of Type S owners are driving solo most of the time. I own a 21MY TLX A-Spec and frequently carry two of my children in the rear. When everyone comes along (wife, 3 kids and myself) we take the Odyssey.
There’s no excuse for the rear legroom penalty when the Accord has way more.
@@agaad22 yes, there is an excuse. It wasn’t designed to be an Accord (great car, as we know). This has a different mission. Style was prioritized. The development team would be looking at buyer insights/data. And almost certainly the data showed that the buyers of sport sedans are willing to give up some space for more style. Accord has a broader mission and needs to appeal to a wider spectrum of buyers. I don’t understand reviews for criticizing a product for something it was not intended to be. The legroom is a fair point to discuss but continually mentioning it (and then suggesting the Charger is a competitor) suggests these guys don’t understand the positioning of this car in the market.
Then what’s the point of a sedan? Just buy a two seater then with that logic 😂🥴
The new Civic is larger on the inside than this TLX. That's especially interesting when you think that the Integra which will share the Civic platform will be on dealer lots soon. I much smaller car with a roomier interior.
The new Civc is also larger that a 540i on the side and a whole lot of other mid size luxury sedans.
Cool car. Acura advantages. Big if repair coming? You can take it anywhere. It’s a Honda. BMW, Audi etc. first add $1000.00 to your bill. A Kia or Hyundai ….please.
If anything, they should have cut trunk and made the rear seat space more logical
why is this not in main channel :D I didn't know about this channel
man the left guy is such a yes man! Look at him when the pther guy says: Julietta has the best design ect....
He totaly think different then what he says.
Do you like the TLX Type S more or less than the Volvo S60 Recharge?
Wish they offer a 6speed manual tranny, case they have the best
The Jag XE is better looking, IMO. But that car’s dropped off the radar after Jaguar got lower CR ratings than Alfa Romeo.
Also, isn’t the Mazda 6 a sedan available with a fairly hot engine?
I wish Acura made the wheels a little more flush to the fenders. They are fire for stock wheels.
Put the SH-AWD on the Honda Accord 252 HP models and back seat problems are solved. My Ridgeline has awd that is a cousin to the SW-AWD and it's great to drive. Honda Accord is so dang close to 40k, just go ahead and do it. Poor man's Acura.
On the passenger seat usually the passenger is shorter than the driver so not so big an issue. For the rear seat lets face for most people there are 2 mitigating factors.
1. Most are under 6'.
2. Most rarely use the rear seat for full size/ height passengers.
Great overview gentlemen.
I was in the mindset of loving the shAWD system but I’m a used car man. I was looking into the old RL and realized for 200 more lbs, I can get into the MDX. While I love the driving dynamics of the SH aWD, it’s just too heavy for any sized sedan and have the interior and trunk space penalty. That also stands true for their sport hybrid. Instead of this tlx, I’d rather get into the mdx type S.
Mdx type s for me but 68k and fully loaded will be 72k im guessing. For anyone who loves music it has a 25 speaker sound system which is insane.
for the size of sedan, its not too heavy. Its much bigger than a 3 series
@@ciello___8307 it’s heavy compared to older cars or rwd cars
@@tnutss Compared to what??? this is about right for the size of the car. Its similar weight to a bmw 5 series or Audi A6 with awd
I was thinkin or grabbin tlx type s. But Mk8 golf r seems just as practical if not more. But its cheaper ,more fuel efficent, dsg , quicker and assuming more dynamic?
But this looks cooler and interior buttons. Hmm decsions decisions