How does a $200 compound shoot - Junxing Pheonix target compound bow
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2019
- The Junxing Pheonix is a 40" axle to Axle target bow, which has rotating module to adjust draw length 24-30.5". IBO 315fps.
We look at the bow shoot through a chronograph then shoot the bow at 18 meters to see how the bow shoots.
In Australia the Junxing Pheonix will retail $250. In US dollars it should be around the $170.
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Fantastic review, some huge reality checks in your comments... It's the archer, not the equipment... Spot on...
Respectfully disagree. Try a SAS seige 55 # bow from China $80. So loud, so innacurate Now slowly saving up for a real bow. 😭
UPDATE:> Six months later, I am now the proud owner of a PSE NXT 31 70# w 90% letoff. Love it. Giving my two Chinese bows away.
@@theamazinggoldfish8713 I disagree with you comment on the siege. It is plenty accurate out to 50 meters. It's not pleasant to shoot but absolutely reaches out. It's loud as shit because the cams are based on old tech. It's now bowtech but works like it's supposed to.
I been thinking about getting a Jun Xing Compound Bow, and after seeing this video, I now know this Model, is the one I want to get. Thank you so much for making, and sharing this video. Cheers!
Great vid, thanks. ;)
It's so good to see you review "entry level" archery.
Ha, it was originally listed at $200 then the price went up $50 since the review! Steven next time don't shot the bows so well until I get a chance to buy them!
Love your videos love to see more cheap target Bows
I LOVE Junxing. I have the M127 and I just ordered the ILF F261.
Wow, impressive! Steven didn't once complained about performance, hope to see some pros compete using equipment such as this bow proudly standing on the podium one day.
Thx for what you do for the sport.
Thank you for the review Steve. The finish and the options are good enough for the price point (under $250- including other online listings) Just waiting to pickup some good spines arrows to start practicing.
Just bought one, My first bow. Shoots amazing. Draw length settings easy to work out.
30.5 minus 24 and divide by 11. Add the result to 24 to give position 2 then add again for position 3 etc. It is a little less than half an inch per spot with 12 spots. Set the same top and bottom. Draw weight is another matter. I Just wound it down evenly on both sides until I could draw it consistently. In 3 days at 20 mtrs I was getting consistent good groupings and had never shot a bow before. Wish it had more instructions but a lot of info on the internet. Love your Vidios. Steve, you helped me decide which bow to get.
One year later and the Bow is still shooting as well as it was when I bought it Had to fit a couple of new d loops but that is par for the course, i have shot 1000's of arrows and on 18 meters i am now averaging 520-530 out of possible 600 in club comps and improving. (Covid put a bit of a dampener to practice but am getting back at it.)
Is it a great bow? I don't know as I have only owed and shot this bow but I keep up with people with more experience PSE/ Hoyts etc target bows and i don't think i am shooting as well as the bow can.
Have a look at Steve's reaction to shooting more expensive bows a compare to this one, His body language and appeared to be genuinely impressed. Quote " I'm shooting better with this bow than my target bow"
If you are starting in archery or want a target bow because it is a little more forgiving than a hunting bow for target shooting (i'm told) at the price it a no brainer and i am glad I saw Steve's review.
@@Steve-ei2vh Nice review and thank you for this. I have practiced with club based recurve bows but compounds spiked my interest. The best was adjustable draw length and poundage choices of compounds, keeping the price kind of less compared to recurve. Although both are different this one looks to be the best bet to start with decent practice.
@@ravinidadavolu Thank you for that, The Phoenix (also known as the M108) is 40 inch, axle to axle and this will give you good stability.
Much easier to shoot than a short Axle to axle hunting compound. They are easier to lug around the bush or up a tree but not as forgiving as a target bow. and the Phoenix is currently $200 au for the bow (no accessories) from Archery supplies or local ebay suppliers . so with cheap target sight. preferable a target archery one rather than a hunting sight, a Chinese drop down rest, I have one for over a year and it has never failed, and a release aid and some 10 dollar arrows. get the narrow ones with the right spline for the poundage and a 30 inch stabilizer and with a little practice you should be right to compete for about 300 odd au dollars. But what ever you get start the poundage with what you feel comfortable with and don't rush to increase. Your muscles need time to adjust and strengthen. i tried rushing and had to go backwoods after staining a shoulder muscle. but now after 12 months i am shooting with max poundage and the draw feels easy. don't be scared to approach the compound archers in your club for advise. they will be a world of information and help. and most importantly enjoy,
@@Steve-ei2vh It's great to hear you are liking it, I shoot recurve, but have a PSE OMEN that is 70lb and probably a bit too much for me. So was looking at this bow.
@@roborrock7945 The PSE Force Omen I think is one of the fastest bows made with a 33.5 inch axle to axle, but it is a hunting bow so not quite as forgiving as a 40Inch axle to axle target bow. if you are hunting then the PSE is the go (just wind down the poundage until you are comfortable and increase as your muscles adjust, ) If it is target shooting you want then the Phoenix is a great inexpensive option.
Excellent grouping Steven. Pretty bloody good for a cheap bow.
Love your work and thank you for your honesty
I recently bought 4 Junxing bows to evaluate and am i impressed with there quality and accuracy given the cheap price. I bought 2-NEW M107's off of eBay for $205 USD delivered and ordered a M106 and a M108 (Phoenix) from the factory in China for $325 USD delivered. I cannot find much fault with any of them. I have more than 40 years in archery and have shot them all, the high priced bows and the cheap junk. None of these 4 i bought are junk. none are "fast" bows but they are not slow either. For the price i am very pleased with them.
I will compete in the senior freestyle division with any of these 4 and be confident in my ability with them. I feel it all boils down to how you shoot the bow and how consistent you are with it. If you can afford a $1500-2000 bow then i am happy for you but to get into or stay in this sport these 3 different models (M106, 107 and 108) Junxing bows are worth the low price. I now have shot about a thousand arrows out of each one with no issues.
Could you indicate which model is the one shown on this video?
Thanks
M108 is the one in the video.
Hi, despite their long axle-axle, can the M106, M107, M108 be used as a hunting bow? is the draw weight good enough?
@@redhafansuriahmedfauzi5894 they only peak at 55LBS, i think that is plenty for hunting but some guys want 70+LBS so there pins are closer together and there bows shoot flatter
@@milehighhydroguy got it, thanx. by the way, i just bought the Junxing F166. i can say it's a good bow and considerably cheap too.
Thank you for not saying just because it is cheap it is not worth it. I hate how everyone just writes off anything at a beginner price range! Of course, you get more with more money but like you keep saying you are getting good results!
Bow looks awsome and a member of our club has one and it does very well. Great price and when I ordered it Archery supplies gave great service and dispatched it rapidly. Unfortunately you may not see it for some time as Australia Post is awful. Takes 3 times longer to get stuff from Australia to New Zealand at the moment than it does from the UK to New Zealand :(
to follow up, i recently received my second M108, (in white just like the one Steven is shooting here) and have it set up for outdoor target shooting. I like the consistency i see in both of these M108 bows and i feel they are Junxing's best compound bows and for the money they are pretty damn good! but like stated it is the archers ability but also having good equipment in hand
Would you say that 30LBS is a good weight for a beginner? I have never shot a bow and there are no archery stores where i can test around.
I got a Junxing M122 -(Hoyt Powermax, w Bowtech Cams), and it's a shooter for sure. A little heavy, but solid, and add Blue Loctite to the Cam screws. Oh yeah I added a set of Vapor Trail strings. This is my starter, but for the price I could have got a PSE Drive XL. It'll serve as my Mathew's HTR No Cam Backup.
Looks a hell of a lot like a hoyt charger.
Sweet bow
Great review. I may get one just so that I can shot at times when my shoulder is bothering me.
My compound is a old second hand Hoyt and my recurve is a cheap lighting archery ghost that was I think $100 us on Amazon you don't have to go broke to have fun. Keep up the good work buddy
Seems like a blend between the Mathews Halon X comp (albeit in 40", with cast riser and no harmonic dampeners) and the Bowtech binary cam with two yokes. Usually people which chase high end flagship models won't seek this one, but for starters thinking on their first compound and guessing about Mission, Diamond or the cheaper models from PSE the mix between the looks (looks good, which is a surprise from chinese compounds) and affordability could make this one a big success.
With just fraction of price not even 60% of price
So, I got one of these and set it up with a full target setup. The strings and cables could be better, but this bow can shoot. I had a little arm slap from the string.
It's the same cams as the m107, but looks like a bit more draw weight. Mine's been a good starter bow, but there's a fair bit of variation without draw stops, so not so good at 90m lol. Have they put any timing marks on the cams?
Is it possible to put better cams on like take cams from another bow and fit them to this one
Nice review im interesting to buy this bow in our country😮😮😮😮!
That Phoenix looks really nice My Jungxing m127 was a little ripper at 30'' a 2 a , so I imagine a 40'' would be smooooth as ? !
At 180 uk bux and 2 yrs of good use my jungxing is retired to the garage and on a summer evening you can let your mate have a go ! It never broke on a dry fire or a derail cos its not very sophisticated (like me 😉) And having a bow that is so adjustable lead me to getting a P.S.E , at bit of grease on the bearings and I bet that Phoenix will be solid for a long time .
Good luck at getting grease into a sealed bearing.
Firstly its a dust seal not Fort Knox .get a pin and pop out the side wall it was only pressed in to begin with its bit harder with the metal side wall bearings but most bearings today use a rubbery plastic, it's so easy even you could do it !
Some people spray degreaser and brush the old grease out, I use WD40 then smear a bit of grease in to the bearing race and pop the side wall back on and it will more than last you while your new bearings are on order as long as the ball bearings don't have flat spots which means you ignored the squeaking for too long.
Secondly a 200 bux Chinese bow DOESN'T HAVE SEALED BALL OR ROLLER BEARINGS! They have phossy bronze bushes and I have turned up new ones and replaced them on my JM127 because I never bothered greasing them . I only put the comment up to help people but I guess some people need more help than others , stay lucky, don't hurt yourself with the pin and any problems take it to a shop !
P.s an archery shop !
@@jimbob5b200 junxing compound bow never break (explode) while dry firing, its happened to me amazing..! 3 time dry fire nothing gonna happen.
Better this than one of those Genesis bows
I cringe whenever I see someone walk in with a Genesis, yes it's great that they're shooting and having fun with archery but without a solid back wall you won't shoot to your full potential, might as well shoot recurve. You can get bows nowadays that will fit anyone and still be a normal compound, the Genesis no longer even has a place in archery except for maybe bowfishing.
i wish you started reviewing more recurves
Thanks for the review, do you know how it compares with a Junxing M131, would be interested in any comments.
That looks a damn good deal for a bow that would be just over a £100 in Britain. And I doubt anyone would be looking for a lifetime warranty with a bow at that price.
Shame we can't get them here, not enough markup for our shops I guess?
Great to see some competition. Maybe make American companies price more competitively. Always good for the consumers.
Thanks for the review. As a finger shooter, there is pretty much NO new bow on the market suitable for me. I currently shoot an old Hoyt Protec. It's fine but I would like to have a newer bow. I might look into this one.
You could try an oneida or rpm nitro?
iv been shooting a win-win dragonfly 40, fingers for near 4 yrs, brilliant,,I'm going to get one of these cant resist.
@@djteeke The Oneida is the one from the Arrow TV show right? Don't like the looks of that one or the RPM unfortunately.
How does it compare to the Junxing M106? I like the knocking point being in the middle of the string.
I’d like to know as well. Steven says this is way way way better than the M106, but at what ?
Steven, are you still doing a comparison of the Supra XL and XXL Long Draw this weekend?
Looking at it now, it looks like a widened mathews riser with a hoyt style dcx cam & angled limb.
Nice review Steven. I mostly shoot 'primitive', such as ELB and Asiatic horse bows. Seriously thinking of buying this bow from your site- do you ship to NZ, and if you do, how much do you charge for shipping. Thanks. Flaxen Saxon.
Would you recommend getting the Topoint Serenity or this bow? The Phoenix looks better, and has better specs on paper, but I'm not sure about the quality difference, and feel. Stores here in the Netherlands don't carry Junxing, so I can't really try both out.
@Wolfpack3D I'm probably gonna get an Invicta from 40-50, just replacing the Limbs later on to increase weight.
Whenever Steve tests a cheap bow he pretty much always shoots a great group.
Ive not watched the whole vid yet but Im expecting Steve to shoot one of his best ever groups :-)
I shoot with a finger sling... My Mybo Origin jumps forwards too
Would like to see the results after full tune, adjustments, addition of stabilizer etc.
Im brand new to this stuff and really have no clue but i bought a compound bow set off ebay, the bow its self feels like a solid platform but the arrows suck so much but i just cant seem to get any kind of grouping going.
Ran the specs through a calculator accounting for the weight on the string with the dloop and peep sight and with a 315 IBO the calculator claims 268 with the arrow weight you mentioned so 264 to me isn't off by to much
So they weren't lying then?
Hello. IM from sweden and thank you for this video, My arrows was going to hell and now I see that the piphole is to low thank you
What about reviewing some Man Kung compounds, if you plan buying them of course?
Bugger it, I've just ordered the bow- don't tell my missus. Anyway, greetings from the sunny Wairarapa, New Zealand. Flaxen Saxon.
Where do you order this bow? Only place I can find it is from Alibaba and it comes comes completely disassembled and 4-6 week ship times :(
Steve it don’t matter the brand if you don’t say it’s the greatest bow ever your going to get crap from anyone who shoots it well that’s been my observation anyway
Is that 364 at second shot over crono sir?
I’ve been doing archery for about ten years using my hunting bow for target shooting I think I might have to get one out off curiosity sake
Just admit it, it's good
I have a flagship BOWTECH and I would shoot this bow. To get into target shooting. I would buy all mid to upper grade parts I case I like target shooting I would have good parts. For a better bow. But I love my BOWTECH
Do they come in a left hand model, I shoot both left & right.
I've always thought (being right handed) that if you had a universal hand grip, (narrow non thumb cutout) that it would be easier to load the arrow from a quiver (again I'm right handed) onto the right side of the bow, and not over the bow as is taught.
For an honest review I would like to see it shot for 3 or 4 month's "normal shooting" like 100 arrow's a day or even the once a week 90 arrow club shoot and a practice session during the week to see how it hold's up, see how much the string stretches, what comes loose, how the bearing's hold up etc.. ..
A guy at the club has a cheap off brand ebay target bow.... he shoots 400 arrows a week..Shoots competitive scores with it.
He's had the bow for 4 years without issues... He makes a new string and cables every year.
Cheap doesnt always mean bad.. It means your not paying for the marketing and pro shooter sponsorship money.
@@sahhull A bloke at my club had a cheap Chinese made copy of a Hoyt, he shot competitive score's and put 500 odd arrow's week through, he had string's that kept stretching and fraying, serving's that kept fraying until he made his own, limb's crack, bearing that were shot, serious cam lean, stripped threads and loose thread's because the raiser metal was crap, he had to put it on the bow press just about every week.
This bow shoot's a tight group at 18m - so does my budget friendly US brand compound but that bow doesn't shoot as tight a group at 50m like my US brand compound target bow does !
@@davidblowe9096 This dude shoots Wa1440's in competition with his..
Maybe he got a good one
if i wanted to compete could i compete with this bow cuz i have a Diamond bow thats for beginners but don't feel it cuz its a 31 axle to axle and im like 175 i height
Is there a budget l/h hunting bow you’d recommend?
The junixing compound bow. He did a review on it. 7 month's ago. I believe it was 250 dollars or 300 US.
Just shot 574 at WA 50/720 not bad for a $200 bow
how do you shoot so close but never split any arrows i can’t shoot any closer then 40yards? do you have special nicks or something
if you are a competitive Archer who shoots for a club, shoots every day, shoots compitition but can't afford anything better would this suit you
out of the junxing m106 and Pheonix which one do you think is better?
20:27
Interesting. My wife wont let me buy her a high end bow for her as she is not 100% if she wants to get into target and 3D. I'm one of those HOYT Prevail SVX shooters but I dont hate you (lol). Looks like a solid shooter and the price is easy on the pocket book, so if she loses interest we dont take a beating. If she enjoys shooting, I'll buy her something nicer if necessary. Would be funny if I dropped my Hoyt for this. Never know.
What is the speed of this bow?
Better than m106?
So its about $260 for a decent beginner bow with a release aid and a few arrows. What price would it be today with a simple sight and whisker biscuit being November 2121?
2121?
Would you recommend a junxing M131 bow
Looked online to possibly purchase this bow and can't find any way to buy it from the states
Do you know brand and model. I'd like to get one as well...
@@xavierllurba378 Junxing M108
Is it durable???
How and where would one find a replacement bowstring for this model? Anyone know which length to get?
U can order one from AliExpress I was also told bowstring is 153cm and cables 105cm
It would also make a great 2nd hunting backup bow . When you drive hours to your hunting spot and 30 minutes into the woods if something happens to your bow you only want to have to go back to the truck to be able to keep hunting . At 10:26 you said you can shoot this bow with fingers .Not having a high letoff at the back end is a reason to be able to use fingers . The design of the cam valley depth that the string is in is the reason you don't want to use fingers . All cams made in the last 20 years cannot be used with fingers because of the width and depth of the cam string channel . Any lateral torque of the string produced by the fingers can cause the string to derail . You should know this . Even the Mathews NOCAM HTR Bow with perfectly round cams are not made for finger shooting because of the cam channel depth and width . By telling people the bow is safe to use fingers with is going to cause a lot of people to destroy their bows because of derailnent and you are on video promoting it . Not a good idea at all .
For me it’s hard to overthink when i am shooting
Just bought one, it arrived from China dissambled in two boxes. It's gonna be interesting.....:)
Orderd two to Sweden. A mate and I are going to shoot fingers
Where can I order one? I live in US.
Alibaba or AliExpress if you want to buy from alibaba then i will tell you a one good seller... her name is 'Sunny Li' and she gave a good costumer respond.
this junxing 108 is the same as junxion Phoenix. If they are different, what is the difference? Where can I buy a Phoenix union? It seems to me that the mold is different
junxing m108 is the same as junxing phoenix
@@ZaheerFirdaus just today the courier gave me my junxing phoenix
@@saim7661 do tell us when you have shot it! planning to buy one too
@@ZaheerFirdaus Just this Friday I'm going to try it to center, because on Saturday I have a contest that I'm going to compete with this bow and then I'll give you information
@@saim7661 damn straight outta the box into the fray haha. what comp are u shooting saturday? distance?
Are the modules made of plastic ?
Modules are Steel. A top bow. I took up Archery 12 months ago with this bow (see previous post) i have now shot 1000's of arrows and no problem and 18 mtrs club comps I am now shooting 520's out of 600 A lot of yellow in that.
That poor bullseye. 20:13
how to buy
Stephen.. Sorry mate did I here you say 364fps at around the 7 min 10 sec of your review..
how to buy one
It’s a hard sell if the entry point is 800. That’s a lot to maybe enjoy it.
Where can I find it I want one for 200
have u tried aliexpress or alibaba website?
7:18 364? 264 maybe but 364?
Shipping is a b*tch to the States on these Junxings, and the M122 is reasonably front heavy.
Tip for all..... you should NEVER shoot any bow without a wrist sling. Even a parallel limb bow. If you is do not have ahold of it, it can fall on the floor, so ALL bows should be shot with a sling.
Dang halon x comp clone ! And you have a peep no fair !
364 ??? @7:10
264
@@letsgobrandon8375 Ha Ha ha !!
From my personal hunting perspective FPS is overrated IMHO. I have taken many White Tails here in Michigan with a 45# Recurve shooting around 170 FPS with 450 Grain arrows.
I am sure the flatter trajectory becomes more important when shooting more than 30 meters which I can do easily but I have NEVER attempted to take one out more than 20 meters and RARELY encounter one at any greater distance.
They're either 300 meters out in a field or 20 meters ,due to the thick woods here.
I took one this year at 7 meters and it ran 10 meters. Beautiful late fall morning with a nearby creek to cool the meat, they just taste better when the hunt is all serendipitous like that.
What is that recurve you're talking about and what is your draw lenght? I have a cheap chinese compound and i get just 200 fps with a 485 grain arrow at 60 pounds draw weight with 28 inches draw length, if i can go to a 45lbs recurve and only lose 30 fps i'm ditching my chunk of metal with strings on wheels!
@@georgewashington1621 Its a Fred Bear Grizzly. I pulled mine from a dumpster 27 years ago when I was a sanitation worker hahaha. Here in Michigan, Bear bows were in every home when I was young.
How the heck did he drop the bow put a sling on it.
Also, you don't have a ton of weight hanging off the front and back. Lol
All i can say is that Adelaide is really noisy
US is targeting Chinese companies with tariffs and restrictions. China is targeting US bow companies with a $200 target bow. Haha!
The Sanlida Dragon X8 is a much better bow!!
Dragon X8 is a 30” hunting bow
Wait, Hold it! 21:30ish >>--------> You would recommend it only to strong women, strong teenagers, "and" men...What if I'm a wee little man mate!?! I'm going into a corner now to cry now, hiding from women and children alike.😓
It's near impossible to find an ACTUAL budget bow review. What about this $$ value but hunting bows? All the Americans UA-camrs seem to think it's insane to hunt with something cheap (even as a casual hunter)
I'll take a Chinese bow with metal limb pockets, over an American bow with *plastic* limb pockets.
Ok, go for it.
Plastic limb pockets? Tell me more 😂
@@5jjt
Cheers for your assent!
Phew, glad I checked it was cool with *you* first!
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How durable are those? Bet you they ain't.
Messor Grim aluminium riser and Gordon Glass limbs. Why not ?
@@vanmanwales1590 plastic cams, right?
Great Review!
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