TUNING a Whisker Biscuit Arrow Rest
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Dude, this was a throughout explanation and demonstration. As a teacher I am really impressed on your delivery.
Just bought me my first compound bow and ordered a whisker biscuit that just came in so I’m glad I came across your vid! Now I know what my next step is
I think Average Jack is a middle school teacher too. Definitely a thorough lesson 👍🎯
Followed the video and worked great. Only change I made was I raised my target up to bow level. Seems a more accurate way to tell tail high or low.
Its always a good plan to use 3 fletched and 3 bare shafts rather than 1. Theres always the risk that if you chose one shaft, that could be the one that flies funny.
i know you all won't think this is true, but i backed over my bow a few days ago, Centered it. After replacing and bending back in place a few parts, i followed this video. With my new whisker biscuit assembly, quiver that was broken in half and a repaired brand new site i just purchased in the beginning of the season. I managed to tune it all back to zero. Being honest i was a little worried about the first shot. The main bow didn't seem to be bent, so i figured what the heck. Its broken, all i can do is try. Been shooting a bow for a long long time and never tuned one. Always took it to an archery shop. Figured they would just try to sell me a new one, so i said what the hey, give it a whirl.Thanks Average Jack, your helpful video's are priceless.
you do a really good job explaining everything, just getting started here with compounds after hunting crossbow for nearly 15 years. keep up the good work
That was really helpful. Ive watched loads of tutorials but this is the best I’ve seen on arrow rest tuning. I’ll definitely be doing this on my own bow. Thanks buddy.
If a hunter can't take a deer at under 40 yards with a whisker biscuit, it's definitely not the arrow, it's the indian. I went back to a nearly maintenance/issue-free whisker biscuit on my Mathews Z2 after my drop away failed me enough times and am very happy with it.
Just thinking about doing the same. Easier, quieter, dependable, accurate, I have QAD Ultra drop aways and I think I'm going back.
QAD HDX hit the trash can. Back to a whisker biscuit.
Same here. Worry free/ quiet whisker B any day for under 40 yards
Same here! Ditched the drop away and went back to the biscuit!!!
But you will lose 3 fps.. speed you need at least 300 fps
this is exactly what i do with my tuning, even drop aways. get bare and fletched grouping together and straight in the target, all good and verify it through paper and get bullet holes every time ive done it. great info thanks jack!
Fantastic video and very easy to understand. Thanks for doing this. I know dated from 2019 but when it's quality content it's timeless. Oh, I'm a subscriber too. Shoot on!
I'm still using the old PSE prong horn arrow rest which allows micro adjustment left or right as well as spring tension. It works perfectly for me and I have no issue on vane clearance. Whiskers biscuit arrow rest don't last very long and need replacement from time to time but its easy to load an arrow. Thank you for your video and all the best for 2022..
You are the only one who explain it breafly and effectively.
Thnak you
Very well illustrated! I love your videos as I said in an earlier post. You keep it simple, well spoken and dead on. I think after watching this one I’m gonna switch to a Whisker, I like the idea of it securing it in place, would make it easier going from tree hanger to shooting position.
Good explanation and demonstration, thanks.
Thank you for the video on how these types of arrow rest. For a novice, like me it is excellent.
I am new to archery/bow hunting, bought an Ek Rex (Archery Research) i just came across this video n wish i did a week ago, i have been learning to tune my bow to me n spent way too long trying to figure it from the shop settings. So i took it all apart n spent hours tuning it through the site alone because i didnt know that about the knock point or whisker biscuit adjustment, but i must of got very lucky with where i set up the whisker biscuit (by eye 👁) because it shoots dead straight n leaves bullet holes with 3 perfect little tears. I have a 5 pin site with each interval at 10m, i am now grouping within 8" at 50m (54.6 yards) so im putting the rest down to my own steadiness 😅
Love ur videos n they are realy helping me understand my bow. Im going to change to a fall away style rest, but now knowing this information im not dreading the new tuning time, so thankyou for being so informative!
Drop away rest, trust me. You won't look back.
@user-ii1iy8fz1d thanks for confidence, I ordered the Apache fall away rest last night
I'm telling you what all of Average Jacks Archery Videos are awesome I watch them then watch again just to absorb every bit of knowledge they have in them. I think it would be kinda cool if he did a review on Walmart arrows especially the RealTree Edge since I'm new to Archery an thats what I'm putting down range. But thank you for these Videos your awesome God Bless you an your family.
😅Iam glad I found this video I’ve been struggling for two days 😂thanks for the video!
I came to view this for the past troubles I experienced myself with bareshaft tuning a bow having a W/B. I would suggest skipping bare-shaft tuning for a W/B rest. I worked on bare-shaft tuning for a good amount of time, even portions of days, and the bare arrow always tilted upward a bit in the target...even though I did get both arrows to be side by side *(just as he mentions in the vid; "the nock tilting upward").* It would become worse when trying to adjust for its tilting. And I even went from a 0.32" medium hole biscuit (for a 0.30" diameter arrow) to the 0.38" large hole biscuit. So, and you might do so too, I eventually left it as good as I could get it. Chalking it all up to the shooting of one arrow w/o vanes and another w/vanes through the biscuit. And also for not being sure if it has to do with the reduction of rear weight, minus the vanes, and a resulting change in F.O.C... Or just because there are no vanes passing through the whiskers on the one arrow. I suppose adding matching weight, using tape, to a bare arrow might make a difference; and may be worthy of trying. But after days of working on this; to correct the upward tilt...I just gave up spending any more time doing this. So I then went straight to "broadhead tuning" and got it dialed in much quicker (less than 20 minutes); shooting arrows, with both field and blade tips, with vanes on them. I do miss my drop-away rests. But I switched to the W/B years ago after losing my fingers on my bow hand (work accident); and after an arrow tapping on the riser cost me a shot at a bull...for no finger to hold the arrow in its saddle on the shelf. I am considering another bow w/drop-away to use for when 3D shooting. When I need not worry about any such noise ruining my day/season. I would suggest, if you use the bow for hunting, to just go straight to broadhead tuning. And perhaps reserve bare-shaft tuning for a bow you only mean to target shoot with...and with a different rest. Even then I, personally, would likely broadhead tune the bow before going, and using it, to target shoot. It just makes it easier and quicker by eliminating this process. I do still nock tune all bare-shafts through paper before adding vanes; this after having it well tuned prior.
As I had commented earlier in another video, thanks for the vids your channel has gotten me back into bow hunting after 30 years.
Great help Nate. Really thinking of going back to a containment rest for hunting 😁
What a great video and way to explain this. I’m still new but always go the wrong way. Now I have this saved so I stop chasing my knocks around. Keep them up.
thanks Nate; followed your instructions: just shot 4 at 20 yards to test your system out.... 4 arrows touching!! never did that beofre!! IT WORKS!!
I know this video is really old but I thought I would mention for people who are trying to bareshaft tune. Part of the reason you are getting the slight nock high is because you are shooting at a downward angle. When I bareshaft I try to shoot with my target off the ground to where I'm shooting straight. Most of the time I actually shoot through paper because it's easier to see the tear but sometimes I don't have the time or the setup
His draw length is a tad too short also, that's why he's getting that punch at release.
Thanks for the help. You are great at explaining this perfectly.
Thank you!
Great video. Much better than most, which mumble their words, use terms without explaining, and leave it to the viewer to work out what's going on. Well done!
Got em landing at 90° to the target face👍😎 Thanks..
Best ,and most informative archery channel on UA-cam .
Love it!!
So I started getting back into archery after 30 years away from it... it has changed quite a bit... so after 5 years I have my setup that works for me... alot of info I got from you... alot I had to learn myself... the biggest pain in the butt was switching from field points to broadheads and my accuracy was way off all of a sudden .... accidentally had a 2 inch fletch ( opposed to a 3 inch) and boom whaddya know fist size groupings with points and broadheads... great channel brother ! Now I just gotta figure out how to see more deer in bow range.... that's much harder than I was expecting on public land in coastal south carolina... I see deer everywhere outside the woods on public land... on wma properties???? They disappear after opening day archery season... don't care still love being in the woods and like the fetching ill figure it out.... thanks for all you do definately helps !
Heyyyyy im hunting public in lower coastal sc😂
Super simple you explained better than anyone else on UA-cam.
Appreciate it! Glad it helped!
Just found this and what a great way of explaining things , quite new to compound bows , will be watching your channel lots
Took your advice on the video couldn’t get away from wanting to shoot the simple whisker biscuit turned out good started with a paper tune got a decent bullet hole then shot the fletched and bear shaft side-by-side and got great results thank you for the help.
Thanks a lot for helping out beginners like me … thumbs up !
job well done brother !!!right on the monet teaching for beginners and more advance archers alike !
By far the easiest and best video to follow for setting up
Excellent video. Thanks a ton for making this tutorial quick and thorough! God bless and happy hunting.
thx for another great video! I'm just a beginner looking for info. you explain things better than most.
I am just getting started in archery. Last week I bought a Bear Species. I know it's not the best bow, but I am just starting. This video helped with tuning the whisker biscuit. Thank you! New sub.
I like the Species! A great bow for a great price.
Don’t under estimate Bear I have paradox they make great bows. The only complaint I had was string quality get a 60X and maybe upgrade some components and tune it up nice at good archery shop and you will have a great bow
Perfect! I shoot instinctive with a long bow, but my wife just switched to a compound and I'm trying to figure out how to get her dialed in. I know nothing about compounds! Haha! Thanks to this video, we're pretty much dialed in now! Thanks, man!
When I got my used Hoyt Prevail, I shot it with a used whisker biscuit. While people looked at the setup all weird, it still shot great!
Thank you Jack! I always come here to remember the whisker biscuit information. My first tournament is next week and I'm grouping great with bareshaft + fletched, but my bareshafts are nock high and right. Your video will fix it :)
Thank you for your video. I have an older bow and my local archery store wanted me to spend money on a new bow. So I decided to keep my old bow and just upgrade it
You have a very good informative video! I like the way you explain things making it easy to understand. I did notice that at ten feet when you shot bare shaft you were nock high. Again you explained the rest to arrow relationship and adjustments for the result, but I don't think you weren't high because of a rest issue. At 6'4" you are definitely a tall glass of water however if you review the video your shot angle on release was quite a bit down hill and would explain the nock high result. Elevating the target to be even with your arrow at release might be a better set up.
Thank you very informative way to tune your bow with the bare essentials.
Dead Nuts Straight . Yaaaeeep! Representing Colville, WA . My homies daughter's nickname is Whisker Biscuit because of a thissle accident back in the day. BOW ON! BOW ON!
As someone just thinking about getting into archery I am really amazed at how true an unfletched arrow can fly.
Think about Amazon hunters. Their arrows are 6-10' long , no fletchings.
"Chasing the point" makes it easy to remember.
Thanks so much. Bought Bear Cruzer G2 online figured before shooting i would have local shop tune and go over everything. Couldn't figure out why my groups sucked until I adjusted to your method. local shop did nothing right.
Great job explaining this man. new sub
Thank you
Great video. I followed the instructions and my bow is a tack driver
HOLY SXXX!!!! You solved my issue as to why my sight was bottomed out.
Hey Brother. Outstanding video. I have a 2007 Diamond Triumph (I know it's old.) that I recently switched from using a whisker biscuit to a brush capture rest. I tried the 13/16 inch and my arrow was kicked way to the right just sitting in the rest. I found out that Diamond says to measure from the back of the riser to the arrow, then the front of the riser to the arrow. Until they're equal. I found my bow is set at a 1-1/16 inch center. I haven't done any paper tuning or bare shaft tuning. My arrows are grouping real nice as is. Just in case there is another Triumph still out there being shot. I doubt it though. LOL.
Excellent video: quick, easy to follow, not too technical (it's for hunting, not for shooting black dots)!
Just got a whisker biscuit! Thank you
very useful for me as I am a newbee .
I love elite bows so smooth and that back wall is solid!
Perfect teacher! Thank you!
I didn't even recognize you without your hat😆 awesome video 🤘🤘
Thank you for the video. I like very much how you made them and the calm and good explanation you use.
For this test I guess you don´t have to move from your shooting position to check the position of the tail.
Can this method substitute the vare shaft paper tuning?.
Ideally yes the target would be level height wise with you as you shooting. Helping with the nocks height.
I don't like to bareshaft paper tune whisker biscuit rests. I've pulled out too much hair in the past trying that. Fletched shafts I've worked out okay but this is my go to method when I'm tuning a WB.
Heck of a job explaining
Great instructions!! I will definitely use. Thoughts on the whisker biscuits with the 3 separate groups of bristles so that the fletching doesn’t have to touch any as they go through.
Think you do a great job fella, thanks from across the pond.
Good video. I had my local pro shop install the Trophy Ridge Sure Shot Pro whisker biscuit on a Revolt X and tune it for me. I chose the biscuit over a drop away due to the arrow retention of the biscuit. Haven't sighted the bow out past 30 yards yet, but the arrows are flying straight and producing tight groups. I'm shooting a 29" Gold Tip Hunter XL 300 with a 100 gr brass insert and 100 gr field tip. I've seen a few of your other videos and like your style, giving you a subscribe. . .look forward to more videos.
Super helpful video, thanks a bunch!
Great video and instructions.
I like the wisker biscuit in warm weather, not so much in the snow storms we get up north
I'm shooting with a whisker biscuit in Michigan's thumb region. What problems have you experienced in the snow? I just got my second deer and have plenty to learn. Teach me?
Another excellent instructional video. Thanks
Awesome video. Thank you for share your knowledge.
This is actually the best video you've made.
thank you. Very clear.
I was sick of my drop away , so I just switched back to a whisker biscuit, great knowledge, I will give the bare arrow method a try, thanks Bub
Greetings. You said, "I was sick of my drop away...". Why? I've been considering a drop away, perhaps you can spare me the trouble.
Christopher Hardt I actually didn’t get one with an enclosure for the arrow so every time I drew back the drop away would flip up and the arrow would pop up out of the rest
Christopher Hardt I don’t know if you got one already or not. But honestly their a bit of a hassle it’s always just one more thing that’s mechanical and could fail. A whisker biscuit is just simple, set it and done. They claim the bristles slow it down but it’s such an insignificant amount, say maybe the one with the drop away will hit half an inch higher at like 45 yards. Not worth it IMO but it looks cool
I learned a lot from that video
Holy bat snot that is some great brand new shooter here set up a whisker biscuit on recruve bow keep shooting to the right hopes this fixes it
Very well explained, thank you!
I generally run a drop away but always have a Whisker on hand! when I’m messing around in the off season I always run one.
Great video, what a guy
I don’t even shoot arrows but wow what an informative bit of information.👍
Im going to try this today, defenenitly help a lot!
O yeah it works! Most of the time.... need to work on my form badly. Can't seem to stay consistent.
Great info. I like others am new to the sport of archery. This will help me. I also have a WB and will continue to use it.
Thanks
It is so nice to have an expert explain such important details in a way I can understand. Thank you.
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Great video, well explained.
Great video. Super explanatory thanks
Awsome video thanks
Thank you! This was very helpful👍
Instead of fighting with the whisker biscuit (its should be flush and firm to the frame) it was a he'll of alot easier to just move the D Loop, just twist it while working it to were u need with an arrow knocked on
Great video man. Thanks for sharing
really glad i seen this video. im new to bows basically. i was undecided between a drop and a WB. Looks like a Wisker for me all the way. Ill let ya know how it goes. One thing is for sure, DONT BUY THEE CHEAP KNOCK OFF with the blocks that hold the brushes, they are vane killers. costly mistake and not tunable with fletching path.. thanks.
Great information as usual bro. Appreciate it, very helpful.
Your video helped a lot! But no matter what I do, the arrow rest up or down the knock always seems a high
This really helps me thanks
Thanks this was Very helpful
Very informative!
Picked up a elite hunter today cheap and I swear I like it more than my new elite. Lol
Mine faces up 😮 even up close it looks really level though and I watched video on how to make sure it is..
Great vid! But your target is not shoulder height so maybe the nock high is because you are 6'+ tall and you are shooting at a cube on the ground?
Lol Buger Button Hole. Say that three time's fast without laughing. Cheers for this man
Great advice!
before watching this guide, i "tuned" differently: nocked an arrow, closed one eye, adjusted the rest left/right until the string and arrow was perfectly lined (still using one eye). it worked and all arrows land square 90 degrees to the face of the target. as you say dead straight. Bear shift method is probably more accurate tho.
One been hunting with a bow since I was about 13 and put the whisker biscuit on shortly after it came out. I’m now 38 and have been thinking about switching to a drop away. They were not what they are today when I made the switch in my late teens early twenties. Any suggestions on type or discouragement against the idea?
i don't understand how you can shoot at a downward angle (you 6'4'' and the target on the ground) to tune a level arrow? Great video I'm just too new to make full sense of it all, can you elaborate?. I came here looking for info on fore and aft set up of whisker biscuit. great job though,very insightful.
It needs to be higher when he's testing forsure. However a little up or down isn't a terrible thing. Most Olympic archers will use it to their advantage. I've been told it takes a lot of human error out of the shot
Bend at waist, do not lower arms to target ... ALWAYS bend at waist when changing angle with a bow.