Why the US celebrates Columbus Day
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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In past decades, Christopher Columbus has gone from unquestioned US hero to problematic figure. For centuries, the destruction and disease he ushered into the Americas have been set aside, allowing the myth of a pioneering sailor who discovered America and proved the world was round to embed itself in US culture. But as this myth has been increasingly confronted with brutal historical facts, things have started to change.
While Columbus still has a national holiday in his honor, complete with parades and celebrations, there are many people fighting to dismantle the myth that surrounds him and choosing to celebrate Indigenous Peoples’ Day instead.
Watch this video to understand how Columbus became a US icon over time and why his status is in question today.
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Correction: At 00:32 we incorrectly say that Columbus never set foot on North American soil. Columbus landed in Central America and the Caribbean which are both regions in North America. We meant to say that Columbus never reached the United States. We regret the error.
Vox you good love ❤️
I mean you incorrectly say that women make less then men all the time and you never correct those errors
Vox going thorough comment section finally
even correcting that error.. the fact that columbus never set foot in the US is irrelevant, especially because you criticized the video in which they just said "America" which include north, central and south america... so ya he might hqve never set food in the US but he did discover the continent where the US is....
@@ie.sportsnetwork9879 what?
They knew the world was round in the 1490s and now in 2018 people are something else
yah whole lot more stupid ones
It's not that there are more stupid ones, proportionally speaking, it's just that we give them disproportionately loud voices through social media.
Many people don"t believe in God, but the scriptures talk about many things that over the years people have been ignorant about. Like a round earth, dinosaurs, importance of cleaning with running water, constellations, that our blood tells about our lives "life is in the blood.: I just mention this because people new about this from the beginning of time and were still so very ignorant no matter where they are/were from, it's not just American ignorance. LOL
Doyeon Lee
Are saying free speech is not for everyone? I'm down with that.
No,the Earth is flat...
When Columbus found America, he actually reached it by swimming on the other side of the Earth [_________]
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Like this 👆 between the brackets is there surface and he was under it
*”In fourteen hundred ninety-two Columbus got us a day off school.”*
-Eric Cartman
Neil LeFrancis I didn’t get a day off of school
@The Dankk Lord he didn't
“With just 3 ships he sailed on over, so we can have some me-time in October.“
"And yes, millions were slaughtered and throats were cut, but if we don't get that day off school, then... for what?"
CT-3921
give this man an award
“You never heard about the other explorers”
Continent is named after Amerigo Vespucci
Sam Bunny clearly the Founding Fathers hadn’t either. “Map says America so we shall call this land America”
Sam Weber - there's a chain of mountains in Nicaragua, North America, called "Americ"or "Amaruc" by the natives. Vespuccio first name was "Alberico" and not "Americo" some how, Waldseemuller, who never saw the new world, named the map, America. You might be interested to know that the Native Indian of South America, called their land Amaruka. Maybe that's where the European Spanish got the name for the new world. I am still researching.
yes he came later !
@@fernandgutez2383 it's widely accepted that waldseemuller named the continent after Americo fue to his prestige and the fact that he was the first to recognised the new world wasn't Asia. There are múltiple theories but It seems the most correct, as the history fits and at the time no one even cares what the natives called their land. In the Royal spanish academy the ethimology IS the one i've told you. It could be otherwise, yes, we don't know where many words come from, but the general consensus IS that It was named after Vespucio. By the way, Sometimes we don't use first names, It could be that everyone called him Americco....It happens a lot, when the name IS common.
How come he doesn't have a holiday? He deserves one more than Columbus.
Well Columbus did not reach India, but 6 years later Vasco De Gama did reach India.
We Indians cant even think of celebrating Vasco day, it would be a crime knowing the fact what India faced after arrival of Europeans.
Shaurav but for some reason u guys call your country a “common wealth” of the uk 🇬🇧. 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏻♂️
We should thank Vasco de gama and British, otherwise we would be Islamic country by now.
@@Man86324 Nope, there is no chance of anything of that sort happening. Instead, each of the current states of India would form their own country based on the concept of nationalism
@Ashley Gomes really....what about Bengal famines and putting our country to fight your wars.
Also there's a city named vasco de gama in Goa
well columbus brutality does represent america in some way
but america wasn’t.... nvm
That's part of human nature. Western culture is not morally worse than others.
I think you struck a nerve there sir... 🤔👍✌️
He also has the more American sounding name.
@@lllool8404
"Part of human nature"
So is rape...should we celebrate rape and rapest then?
Putting rapists in highest offices and.... nvm
In South Dakota we don’t celebrate Columbus Day, we celebrate Native American day instead.
On the anniversary of the day Columbus landed here? How does that makes sense?
Hollywood is right.
Why would you celebrate the day their downfall started?
Because what the Aztecs did to the Mayans was better, right?
@@night6724 "I curse ye today, you shall know no peace"
@@night6724 For centuries where your evidence
The guy at 4:30 totally looks and sounds like a Native American George W Bush...
Lmao I agree
Right! I was like why is GWB wearing a wig and acting like his a native american?
Plot twist: that was GWB at a halloween party in the 60's
I thought exactly the same thing
That guys no native american.
We should talk more about the dude they briefly flashed up there, Bartolome de las Casas. That dude is rarely talked about but he was a very early opponent to slavery. We act like slavery was inevitable and met with no resistance. The truth is of course much more talked about. It was incredibly brave to speak out against monarchical policy.
Yes he was so much against slavery that he pretty much conviced spain to start the trans atlantic slave trade eh
"I soon repented and judged myself guilty of ignorance. I came to realize that black slavery was as unjust as Indian slavery... and I was not sure that my ignorance and good faith would secure me in the eyes of God."
Yes he did suggest that the lost labor could be made up for with African slaves, but what you should also realize is that he came to regret this and is actually a complex figure himself. Sure you should criticize him for this, but no figure is historically good, because they are people.
Also I'm not sure, but I actually do work on a similar subject with John Locke. Based on his reason for why people should be enslaved (which was basically the same reason Locke gave), was because of Just War. Now this sounds really shitty and of course is terrible today, but you have to consider this in light of the politics of the day. Slavery justified in this way (in Locke's argument, not sure about De La Casas, but on first glance seems similar) is non-hereditary. This is a major difference. The war also has to be justified, you can't be the aggressor. Ie you can't go in and just conquer some place for no reason, and you can't hold the people who you beat's children. The idea being that instead of killing the person, you hold them in bondage for the rest of their life. If this idea was accepted this would have basically crippled slavery.
Oh and vastly important aside. For the same reason this is why Locke argued slavery should also be allowed for people facing capital crimes. This is why slavery is actually still legal in the United States under one circumstance, read the 13th Amendment carefully.
I'm not very knowledgeable about Spain at this time, but I think you are partially correct, he was probably more protected because of his position. However he was going against what others in the Catholic Church were saying, he could have easily been kicked out. In fact at one point he was accused of treason and sent before the inquisition, although they didn't kill him. He instructed the work I quoted from above to not be published for 40 years (ie well after his death) probably because he knew he would get in trouble, and then the work was actually not even published until over 300 years later.
Crazy how he saw them first hand doing awful things and decided to write down what went down. He help start the black legacy for the Spanish. Making Europe know that Spain is doing cruel things.
I think the issue is largely out of laziness. Its really easy to just see things are sort of sweeping inevitability, or in broad narratives. I'm about to start applying to history phd programs, and people often laugh or ask why I would do such a crazy thing. Well I love it, I think its important to know things, and I think its important to help provide today with lessons from history. Also when politics inevitably collides with history, someone has to set the record straight. I can't read Spanish though, so unfortunately I can't work on De Las Casas. I'm working on 19th century US cities, mobs, and nativism.
This should just be a history lesson not a holiday, there is nothing to celebrate about
Why not? He discovered the Americas, continents which were completely unknown in Europe, Asia and Africa.
Jack
Cause a couple thousand Indians died I guess.
It should be "Happy Massacring Native Americans Day."
@@Gamenetreviews Mostly to disease and the Spanish once Columbus had left and died
ADHAiiN7
I believe he was fired by the Spanish crown for being to brutal of a governor. But that was more directed towards the Spanish themselves.
This video completely omits why Columbus Day came to be in 1st place. After 11 Italian American immigrants were lynched in New Orleans, Columbus Day was created as a way to recognize Italian contributions to America, placate the anger of Italians after the lynchings and to normalize their presence. It’s the REAL reason Columbus Day exists
thank you! I watched the video waiting for the answer.
Those italians at the time chose a terrible person to represent them. They could've chose someone better like Armigo Verspucci for example.
@@johnathanflores7750 they didn’t
@@johnathanflores7750 Italians didn't choose Columbus. The WASPs picked Colombus because he was one of the only "Italian-Americans" who they would've considered White, and they wanted the largely Souther Italians immigrants to aspire to be more like him, aka "whiter." Never mind the fact that Ligurians were and are a completely different group of people from Sicilians, Neapolitans, Pugliese, etc and that the two people groups didn't even share a common language until the 1950s, and still don't share DNA or really a common culture, only a political designation.
@@johnathanflores7750 Colombus wasn’t the one who was killing Natives. He was actually for peace and diplomacy, he wanted to trade and Evangelize, but it was the people who came after him that were the genocidal ones and enslavers
Y'all act like Spain didn't know the man was evil and took away his power in the new world. 💀 It's not judging from today's perspective, people were saying the same about his brutality 500 years ago. 🤷🏽♀️
fr right and wrong is always gone be right and wrong regardless of culture and era
Yeah! When Columbus returned to Spain the queen of Spain was to horrified by the tales she heard that she took away all his power and inprision him until he died
@@elperroruso3539 but Columbus went to America several more times and remained in Spain until his death because he was ill
@@makiiavely Columbus was the reason we suffered most
British colony literally took 42 trillion of wealth from India
Before British rule India used to called as bird of gold
Okay let's debunk this columbus wasn't a saint but he wasn't a devil either in the first voyage he created the Christmas fort then left for spain his men most of them convicts attacked the native taino people and the Christmas fort was destroyed by the tainos in self defense second voyage his son takes over while colon explores 🙄so no he wasn't the genocidal maniac he was just the taxi driver
I am a 49 year old US citizen, nobody "celebrates" Columbus Day. Seriously, it's not that type of holiday.
I’ve never seen a columbus day parade wtf. It’s more of a remembrance holiday.
It is celebrated when banks and holidays and government buildings close. Think beyond your sole personal experience, 49 year old US citizen. Society operates beyond your individual perspective and it operates through silent oppression.
yea at my school we go on Columbus Day
@Devils Right Hand If you honestly believe that nobody is oppressed in America, then you need to pay attention to what's happening in our country a bit more. Second of all, you use the argument that "our poor are fat" without logic. Poorer people have a higher obesity rate due to the fact of their lower income or no income making them unable to buy fresh, healthy food. What they can buy is what's cheap and easy to get which here in our country mainly means a dollar meal from any chain fast food restaurant.
@@themarcusismael13 i could tell by your comment that you lived in california, nice try tho NPC. leave my holiday alone if you could tho thanks
Bruh why celebrate an explorer who didn't even find what he was looking for lol
because 'Murca
Who Dis we celebrate a lot of people who did that. Especially scientists
@@jameswhiteley6843 is it?
But how do you discover something that people were already living on?
Because he was the person who told everyone there’s new land. Everyone else just followed the guy.
As of June 2020; One Columbus statue has been thrown into a lake and another has literally been decapitated. If only he were alive to say he discovered lakes and decapitation.
finally racism ended.
@Shashwath Inamdar Its the glorification of a genocidal maniac who slaughtered countless indigenous innocents in the Americas... idk why I have to explain that.
@Shashwath Inamdar Hey, you asked me why the statue was racist, I explained why it was. Don't just go bringing up a whole other matter to defend its existence.
@@atticusv668 Or probably to remind people historical events that changed their country and the world
bdidbw ok, but get those absurd racist statutes outta here. remember whom ever you like, just don't ask me to believe the same as you.
Christopher Columbus never knew he had landed in a new continent, he thought he was in India
He thought he was in Japan, actually.
@@LeonardoGuerini no he thought he was at Antartica
@@LeonardoGuerini The west probably didn’t know about Japan back then.
@@joes9129 Do you know Cipango and Marco Polo?
@@LeonardoGuerini Yes, I said probably so you could be right
That's why I celebrate LEIF ERIKSON DAY!!!!!!
Hinga dinga durgen
Interpol!
Leif Erikson is the original gangster.
As one of Viking descent, we appreciate the recognition.
Now we must board our boat, slaughter the men of the village we find, take their women and children, and all their spoils.
Hinga dinga durgen
Thank you Columbus for not discovering real India.....
😂
@@robm6510 sarcasm my friend sarcasm
The Native Americans weren't savages, they have fairly complex civilizations and systems of government.
They were not a monolith, there was a large amount of diversity across North and South America but a large majority of both continents were completely and utterly devastated by plague. Some of these tribes that survived had government systems were even looked at favorably by the new United States and used in the formation of its government.
Describing ancient civilizations as savage is simply contrasting them to western civilization and "western values." In terms of brutality, I cannot call Native tribes savages based on that factor due to the brutal nature of just about every major nation in history.
By that metric, humanity in itself is in some ways a savage beasts of animals, and perhaps that is true in many ways.
@@udayrathod3786 Really? The dig wasn't real you say? Why do I get the sense that you still think he would have murdered people there?
@@robm6510 i do think that. But we got killed anyway. If not Spain than England.
In Colombia, South America, (only country in the world that bears his name) we don't celebrate his arrival anymore, instead we call that day The Day of Races, to celebrate our diverse etnical backgrounds but specially our native-indiginous Americans.
Weird because in spanish it's christobal
@@Literallyryangosling777 the name Christobal is not a name recognized in the Spanish language, it is Cristobal. His real name in Italian was Cristoforo Colombo.
i wish the name of my people was mentioned. the people were my ancestors, the Taíno.
Your ancestor are mostly Europeans, and African only 8% Tainos
Was killed from British ?
no one cares you dont even live the native life
@@rommel1459 my ancestors are also the taino so i care and here in puerto rico we know that since we are in school
The Tainos invaded others tribe as well when they were invading other island, is just they were a really small group compared to the Aztec and Maya, at the end there's always been invasions by a superior group
No one give a damn for columbus, its just a day off from work for some.
I do!
@Matt Jones how do you know we dont matter ? Maybe your the one who doesn't matter
@Matt Jones well you matter a lot to me man
I mean world history would have been totally different if people like him or Vespucci wouldnt have existed so its not like he isnt important
And kids and teachers get a day off
"Why the US celebrates Columbus Day"
Answer: Italians.
End of video.
“The cartoon doesn’t say that Columbus killed a lot of natives”
Well because kids watch it
Ikr Abe I just like that I have the day of school I don’t care that he killed a bunch of people and didn’t discover the USA
@@bruh7601 yeah, but to be fair, he did discover it. “Discover” just means to find out, you don’t need to be the first one to discover something to discover it
Well, because he didn't.
@@trajan75 ???
@@JakubS The fact is that Columbus along with Queen Isabella did not wish to enlave the Native Americans, and he only engaged in two small wars. In one he was allied with friendly tribes after a massacre by a rival tribe of the Spaniards. In the other he defended himself agains a hostile tribe which attacked one of his expeditions. The real villains were the Spanish gold hunters whom he could not control. Any good history will tell you that.
How do you discover something people were already living on lol
He was evil
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR DECADES!!
it was probably coming from their perspective
Disvover could mean show other peaple what they dont know and nearly all the peaple didnt know América existed
Because to white people, only other white people matter
0:38 Wait, I’m confused, didn’t they say he didn’t step on North American soil, yet the Caribbean’s are recognized as part of North America... explain
The Derp Chaos they must have meant the contiguous USA
Either they mean US when they said that or they simply mispoke (or skewed the facts to make him seem worse) either way it's wrong
So is Central America, just people getting confused by facts and everyday speak.
Alpha Varade ok, that does make sense, but people need to understand that the US, Canada, and Mexico are not the only North America countries.
Like come on, if you are going to say “North America” and meant US, then say “Unite States of America” because saying North America isn’t correct.
You’ve almost entirely misattributed all the brutality other people did to Columbus while hoping no one would look too hard at your sources. Bartolomos De Las Casas was not writing about Columbus, and he only mentions him once in his entire report (in which he speaks positively), the painting you show of enslaved Native Americans was made almost 50 years after Columbus’s death and is depicting a completely different conquistador. Either you didn’t research too well or you choose not to look for facts that would disagree with your narrative
Ben Roley this, did Vox really not expect people to see the publish year of 1552 on the cover?! I’d don’t think the friar was directly talking about Columbus, seems like spin to me.
Vox chose to lie about Columbus for idelogical reasons
Let em fly Hunting I’m sorry I will correct it in my original comment. I never said that Columbus did anything wrong, and I certainly didn’t mean to insinuate that he’s a good person. But his also not the absolute villain his present day opponents make him out to be. What I’m saying is that this video is spreading misinformation by attributing things that objectively much worse people than Columbus who came after did to him, that is to say, blaming him for things he simply didn’t do. I recommend you watch a video called “In Defense of Columbus” by a channel called Knowing better
Shut up Indian.
Let em fly Hunting Are you really going to get triggered by the word Indian? It’s not even used as a slur, but as a referring term like “natives”.
Also, to the OP - you are so right. People associate Columbus with the murder of millions of people for some reason. He’s not Andrew Jackson. He’s just the explorer who found new land. He did do bad things, like exploit the natives for resources, but it’s not like he took an axe to each of them.
I still have to work columbus day, so it shouldn’t be a holiday.
America doesn't mean the US, it means North and South America combined
This video clearly states that Columbus found America yet the English europeans(whites) only use that term to identify them and there country. That is something that really grinds Latin American people's gear
No that’s America’s
@@visorij3374 we live on the AMERICAN CONTINENT in the country of United States. We are United Statians
@@sierra5713 United Statians isn't even correct English. Yeah, there's a term for that in Spanish, but not in English and in many languages. Everyone form the Americans is American of course, but if they're come on a certain country, then we'll ever to them by what their country indicates.
Linda Gonzalez butt hurt lazy and unproductive Latin american
Ion really care, all I know is that in 1492 Columbus gave us a day off school
True he did 😂
Well do you're research child. Stupid kid don't even care about this special day just think oh it's a day of school cool!
@@pile_of_loyalty7354 Well, he pretty much killed many natives, we don't get a holiday because he really didn't discover it, but it's now indigenous day or something, day of cool
Depending on what part of the country you live in.
I work in a hospital so theres no traffic in the morning either 😊
*Thankfully he existed so I can finally wake up at anytime for one day*
Same
Well there is 2 days every week to do that
Andru Bernardo lucky
That's about all anyone cares about for the day now. South Park nailed it.
Not everyone gets the day off.
Your comment is null
if your hero in this era you’ll become the villain in the next era
What?
4:28 that guy looks and sounds like George W Bush with a wig and makeup
Columbus did help Kickstart European interest in the Americas, so he was still influential
@@SlinkyDrinky good=\=influential. I'm just saying that his actions were still important
MattSlinky considering there's a lot of cannibal in America before Europe come. Yeah sure.
@@TechExploresNYC why would black people celebrate the 4th of July when nothing good came of it for them? I see today more as memory of what has happened more than celebrating it (literally nothing changes for me today compared to other days)
MattSlinky
Is that a good thing ? You dumbfuck
You weren’t even born if it wasnt a good thing
@@JuniorJuni070 I'm about to mute this comment, but some people are born out of terrible situations...
That book was written about 48 years after Columbus had died, just for context 2:02
yeah, I knew there was something fishy about the way vox presented this. they NEVER present information without their bias. tsk tsk tsk vox...
@@blahtherr umm how could that possibly invalidate whats being said its not like other people wouldnt be alive to talk about what he did. It wasnt like what he did wasnt recorded or was spoken about.
it doesn't invalidate it, but gives better context. if someone is writing a book decades and decades after the events transpired, it is bound to have inaccuracies, let alone bias seep into it, just like vox has with this video.
notice how in the friar's book, they make it appear as if it was written at the time of Columus' conquest. but for his biography (@2:39), they make mention of when it was written so as to distance it from Columbus' life, and this call into question what it was missing in it.
@@blahtherr They actually make good content if they stay out of politics.
agreed! I love their non-political content and wish they did more in that realm.
In central and just Latin America countries they celebrate him as he brought over their religion (Catholicism) well from what I've heard in El Salvador
we do
In Argentina we don't celebrate the day of Columbus that change a 10 years ago if I'm not wrong
We don't celebrate the genocide and there is not statues of him here
@@flor2637 ok
In peru, columbus is only mention is the chapter of the discovery of the continent. And that he wanted it to find a rute to reach India. But nobody celebrates him
@@flor2637 Lookup "Monumento a Cristóbal Colón" in Buenos Aires. Also, they changed the name but now instead call it "Day of Respect for Cultural Diversity" still acknowledging him if you think about it.
False, the Knights of Columbus were founded by the Irish. Fr. McGivney to be exact
In 1492, Columbus got us a day off school
And for your day off in school, he killed million. What a little price to pay.
I still have school
It's not a bank holiday so a lot of schools are still in session.
We use to celebrate it
@@dinahmyte3749 Are you sure you are in school because Columbus day is a bank holiday.
I don’t think ppl celebrate Columbus Day anymore no one even mentions it at school I honestly forgot it was a thing
I think only public schools get days off. But overall nobody really celebrates it.
Koffee Kim I go to a public school in Michigan we don’t get it off
I go to a public school and we haven’t celebrated it for like three years
I’m Nevada we didn’t get a day off.
@Rich Buddy Native Americans, not Indians 😉
I like you guys to do a video on this again more on the past and how West Indians and Native americans feel about Columbus day especially with his dark history regarding the Caribbean islands and North America.
He wasn’t the issue or genocidal person. It was the people who came after him that committed atrocities
@@thecaynuck4694 source ?
@@zamfy7141Why don't you try doing some research yourself
@@RyanG0899 why don't you just give it to me then?
@@thecaynuck4694 Columbus was an evil man
You can't delete history
True, but we don't have to celebrate it.
@@guitarcatlind6075 true.
The Italians. There, I explained it for you.
because italians were lynched
No mention that Columbus was actually arrested? Okay just saying.
That Random Guy Otherwise Known as Roman. True Francisco Fernandez de Bobadilla arrested him by order of the Spanish kings as they saw the atrocities he had committed in America
@@JamonCocid0 Stop spreading blatant lies. He was arrested because he didnt got enough gold for the crown. He was released 6 weeks later and instantly got on his fourth voyage
Facts matter. History should be told as it is, not by a so call gang of knights.
The truth is not a myth and is worth sharing. The lies are myths.
*people already knew the world was round*
flat earthers:
Some people. People knew the moon wasn't made of cheese, but Lance had to go up there to prove it.
Dirty Rob Lance probably used some steroids and changed his name to Neil with all the testosterone he had.
They meant some.
Yes, and with that knowledge, Columbus tried to discover India by going westwards.
This comment section is fun
Average Steve ya
I know right
Ikr
Try telling white nationalists that their not white, that the definition of white has been getting more and more inclusive with every immigrant group.
@@dx7631 Thanks for providing an example
People think Columbus was bad, but what most don't realize is that this has happened before in Roman times. (ex. Gauls and Britons)
In the Philippines, we don't celebrate Ferdinand Magellan's historic arrival on our shores. Instead, we commemorate Datu (Chieftain) Lapu-Lapu's victory over Magellan and the Spanish expedition in the Battle of Mactan on the 27th of April, 1521. Lapu-Lapu day is a national holiday that is annually celebrated every 27th of April.
As a non-American, I have never understood Columbus Day. I've been amazed to see how entrenched it is in the Americal culture.
I’m American and I’ve never understood why we celebrate it either.
As an American I only enjoy the holiday for the day off school we get.
Here in Romania he is only mentioned in three sentences.
me too bestie
It’s almost like countries and cultures celebrate different people for different reasons.
How do you discover a place where people were already living in?
If the first Japanese would set foot on French soil in 1377, would that year go down in history as the year France was discovered?
yes he didn't "discover" the America's, but he did connect the America's to the old world, and that is even more important then the discovery.
He discovered all the people were.......DARK you white boys will never admit it....they didn't like their own pale skin..lol
Alex1986Sevilla if a Japanese man did set foot on Europe as a completely new place that was unknown to almost anyone in Asia and Asia would rise and dominate this new land then yes he would have discovered France for the Asian world.
Sorta like how you discover a species that's already existed for 1000 years. People have probably seen them around, but someone finally took the time to sit down and define/classify it. How'd electricity get discovered when lightnings been striking everywhere on earth since we've been on it?
Except the part that france and japan was already known to each other through trade. As opposed to the americas that was isolated
In my opinion Americans should celebrate John Cabot, Amerigo Vespucci and Native Americans
*Leaf Erikson*: "Hinga dinga durgen?" (That's "Am I a joke to you?" in Ancient Norse.)
*Leif.
@@vinrod4 Actually it's Leifur, that's the Icelandic form.
Erikson did not connect civilizations....
Most of eriksons discoveries were forgotten
Also, I think Colombus is overated. Like there're other people to name places over, different explorers, other misionaries, even peacemakers. Also, he didn't even think he was on America.
And as the video mentioned, he didn't land in North America.
Liberals hate everything.The hate generation.
pp rr I mean....you like this dude?
Either than or the Vikings were underrated.
"Brutal historical facts" aka one guys journal who was never wrote that Columbus directly did anything to the natives
Only Christopher we acknowledge is Wallace...
Ever heard of Columbus Day or Columbus Ohio?
Urban legends say that he love it when they call him big poppa
it was all a dream.
@@rileyquest4gr8n34 use to read word up magazine
A JAY-Z Song I guess. FUTW
I don’t care about why we celebrate it, I just thank him for giving me my 3-4 day weekends
LMAO
than you're arrogant.
Proving your US ignorance.
She’s not arrogant or ignorant, it’s a day off, to escape the madness of the system...all because of some unrelated sailor who landed here over 500 years ago. Happy Columbus Day! Enjoy your day off 😎
@@meowthchu7307 least hes not celebrating a man who did ^ to natives
If more US citizen would learned about what Columbus did, the number of people that agreed that we should celebrate Columbus day would be less than 50%.
Heraldo Medrano God you’re ignorant
This video neglected to mention two important aspects of Columbus's story: that he was not well-liked by his contemporaries, was forcibly removed from his leadership position in the new world, and died poor and relatively unknown; and that he is responsible for opening the Americas up to the world trade system, leading eventually to the US's dominance in the world today.
The Vikings (Norse) beat him by 500 years.
Hellblazer True, but they didn’t raise awareness of it throughout the rest of Europe. That’s why Columbus gets more recognition.
We should be celebrating vikings instead. That'd be a dope af holiday.
@vox needs to recognize Leif Erikson!
He was a white male, how could Vox recognize him. If he were Jamal Erikson, maybe.
The Vikings did not know that America was the continent that the Spanish discovered it to be. The Vikings saw only the edge of NE North America, assuming it to be like Greenland but with hostile Natives making for an unprofitable venture there. Either way, Europeans got there, and the Spanish were the ones who got the lion's share and the greatest imprint. :-)
Columbus was born in Italy but the 3 ships he used, the men, the money to support the journey were from Spain
No he was born in Portugal if he was italian he would have been from the holy roman empire
@@r.o.b8728 some say he was born in Spain too. Who knows
@@Angel_Gomez No he was born in the late Republic of Genoa from italian parents, Domenico and Susanna Fontanarossa. We haven't any proof that Colombo was Spanish or Portoguese.
Ok, I'm from suth america and we celebrate the date as "Día de la raza" (which would be like "Day of the native people" in english) . It's related to Cristopher Columbus, because he was who accidentaly discovered the continent, but his last name is not even in the date. It is not exactly a celebration, there are no parades or some stuff like that. It appears in the calendars just to remind the repercussion that Columbus' trip had. So I think the problem in the US is about the meaning of that day. It is important, because of _our_ people and because after that day our history changed, If we wanted to have a day for Christopher Columbus, It might be october 31st (the day that he was born).
If History offends you, change history.
- love. Vox
if anything they are advocating to get the historic facts right about colombus
Vox is just providing facts. Something that many times is missing
@@isakbd3450 you realize natives already had diversty right just lik europe natives didnt all have the same cultuee
They're not in any way changing history, the u.s. have incorrectly taught about Christopher Columbus. They have taught that he was a good man that went and discovered all these lands, wrongly about the US. He never landed on Continental us. He only touch the Caribbean islands which for a long portion of time where not even owned by the government. They never taught us in any way that he was a mass murderer who killed an entire population of natives, enslaving them and then murdering them with disease and torture.
@@isakbd3450 but you really don't realize that he actually killed off the entire population of people. And then the Spanish and the French brought over Africans for slaves and left them there. That is why there are no natives remaining on the Caribbean islands, only black people. So yeah if by cultural diversity, you a mass murder, then I guess you got that right.
What's what all the comments saying everyone wouldn't exist without Columbus? Is he God or something?
@@amirtahir7306 Well why? I'm an indian , haven't ever heard of this.
None kf the people in the US would exist because Columbus opened the door for European settlement in North American territories, which later became the USA. So technically it’s true, no Columbus, no Europeans, no USA.
Because we made the united states
And without him no one would even bother to go to that backwater planet you call home
Fred Cobalt the natives were here before Columbus. we would still be here, fred. as was leif eriksson. trust me. we’d be fine without the guy
@@fredcobalt2932 the people that later settled in America wouldn't cease to exist if Columbus never stumbled across America. I mean, you could argue that you may not exist because your ancestors might not have met or married, but that would be true of any event in history.
Yeah, Washington Irving was the one who popularized Columbus except for the fact that... Colombia Ohio, British Columbia, The District of Columbia, Colombia, 12 other cities were named after Columbus, all before Irving wrote his biography. the “Columbian” exchange was also a known term before the biography, and the existence of Columbus’s Goddess “America” was well known for being in paintings of America’s Manifest destiny. So yeah he was definitely not well known
I would definitely vote to celebrate Indigenous Day over Columbus Day. I love my Italian friends and love the many wonderful things they brought to us but let’s be fair, the natives were here first.
Slevin YEP! 🥳 🎉🎊🍾🥂🍹
colonialism created america and many nations today
As a Native American I’ve always known about the true nature of Columbus. So when I would be in school and the teachers would talk about him and idolize him I would always say okay we talked about the good he did when are we gonna talk about the part he raped, murdered, and stole from millions of people. Most teachers did not appreciate that. Well expect for one, she was cool.
Most people prefer not to talk about that, but it’s necessary
I think a day of Explorers would be cool. That way Ponce De Leon, Amerigo Vespucci, Lewis and Clark, Columbus, ect all get recognized as important historical figures
Maybe just the ones who didn't kill a lot of people
A lot of great people in history have caused deaths, it wouldn't be right to ignore only the explorers
It should be named Exploration Day.
Maybe it could also merge with Leif Erikson day which is one day later.
In South America we celebrate “Discovery of the America’s day” instead of “Columbus Day” on the same date. Indigenous people still consider it controversial.
Did I never understand why on Columbus Day, where the discovery of America is commemorated, Italy is honored instead of Spain? 🤷♂️
Because Columbus was Italian and it was his idea.
Leif Erikson actually discovered north America in the 11th century which he was a Viking and he discovered Newfoundland, Canada.
**Thank Public schools for no school that day**
I had school today
Me too
We’ve had it cince before 2010
When is Columbus Day?
I had school
Are we just going to ignore the fact that Christopher Columbus was a sephardic jew who coincidently left Spain the day before the Spanish Inquisition officialy began?
Only 14 years off
A man called "Christopher" (i.e. Christ-bearer) is a Jew. Seems legit. And I wonder, what an Italian has to do with Spanish inquisition.
This ain’t it chief you’re dumb boi
shoutout to mr huezo for assigning this! you're a real one
who is mr huezo?
IN MY OPINION...Its just simply saying one thing: contemporary history (especially ones that taught in US schools) has deep Eurocentric views especially if it pays reverence to their European Ancestries
Fair enough but a lot of that has changed also Columbus Day isn’t to celebrate Columbus it was given to Italian Americans after English people linched 11 of us
Well, saying he never stepped foot on north America is kind of wrong, as modern day Mexico is clearly on the north American continent. But yes, he never was in the modern day USA.
Colombus never went to Mexico
The closest he got to Mexico was Trujillo Bay, Honduras (also known as Punta de Caxinas) and that is even far away from Guatemala not to mention Mexico.
@@aandre311 oh well, still what I would consider the north American continent...
He landed in Cuba and traveled to Florida...
What about Leif Erikson?
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Rush IV who?
Rush IV HINGA DINGA DURGEN
(Sorry, had to let that out.)
Leif Erikson didn't stay in the Americas for long. Columbus' first voyage marked the beginning of when the continents were actually explored.
He only saw
Columbus Day, Indigenous peoples' Day, how 'bout instead we go with Afro-Eurasia Americas Reunion Day?
#AfroEurasiaAmericasReunionDay #ColumbusDay #IndigenousPeoplesDay
Where did you get this information at?
"In 1492 Colombus got us a day off school." ~ Eric Cartman
Did you ever think that he started a revolution of people traveling to the Americas? Not too hard to understand...
Thank you! He kicked off interest in the Americas and fyi I'm not a fan of his massacre but his credit is definitely due.
@@OfMiceAndMegabytes he wasn’t even responsible for the massacres, the people who visited afterwards were
Nice Continent you have there...
...would be a shame if someone...
...DISCOVERED IT !!!
Nice continent WHO has there??
Who owned it before
Can anyone point me to the sources for this video? I would greatly appreciate it because I need it for an essay
Happy indigenous peoples day!
Happy Colombus day to you too!
Happy people of Earth day. Murderers and fake explorers excluded.
Not a thing
Jack Martin haha yea those Liberals and they’re hatred of murderers amirite
Happy Columbus day
That's because of his cool name.
That's not even his real name...
@Alex N. shut up
Abhimaneu KJ you mean Cristoforo Colombo?
That moment when the truth is more complicated than “good” or “bad” :-J good try vox, take 2
I dont really know what side your taking
Velcranox Naziri i think that’s the point
@@velcranoxofficials9970 that is the point,on that story there are not good or bad people,just people with ambition on both sides
No Columbus is just bad. He sailed to the Americas and spent whole life thinking it was India and then got arrested by Spanish because of massacres he commited.
@@justsamoo3480 Nah, nah, we gotta be fair to Columbus sometimes. I've heard of justifications for him calling natives Indians for the fact that one, he believed he was on a landmass just east of Japan, and two, Indian was a common term to refer to folk in Asia? Plus us native folk do kind of resemble some japanese or philipino peoples so he's aight on that one. Enslaving is a big no no thougj
Columbus’s governance of Hispaniola could be brutal and tyrannical. Native islanders who didn’t collect enough gold could have their hands cut off, and rebel Spanish colonists were executed at the gallows. Colonists complained to the monarchy about mismanagement, and a royal commissioner dispatched to Hispaniola arrested Columbus in August 1500 and brought him back to Spain in chains. Although Columbus was stripped of his governorship, King Ferdinand not only granted the explorer his freedom but subsidized a fourth voyage.
Columbus Day was originally intended to recognize the struggles of Native Americans and Italians following Wounded Knee and the lynching of 11 innocent Italians around the 1890s. It’s not really celebrated and it’s sure not about Columbus himself. That’s why the day doesn’t fall on his birthday or the day of his death. I do see how the name can be controversial tho
EDIT: just to make my stance more clear since this is getting a reasonable amount of likes, I DONT think Columbus Day is a good name for the holiday since it doesn’t really represent the purpose of the holiday that well but I don’t have anything against the actual holiday
Using the name of Columbus to represent the struggles of Native Americans is pretty controversial
NameYourChannel yeah i totally agree dude
@@nameyourchannel838
Even though the primary Indians he killed we're the Caribs who were cannibals hunting other tribes who then went on to help Columbus wipe out the Caribs (which is how we named the carribean)
Raj Kandhari I CELEBRATE IT. I HAVE PARADES AND DANCING GIRLS WITH BLOCK PARTY MUSIC AND DANCE 💃
Raj Kandhari can you cite your sources
Every country's history has some sort of false truths In it
Tyrone biggums um are you trying to say Columbus Day is a good idea? Do you even know how racist that sounds. He was white and white people should not have holidays they ruin everything 😤
Lmao. I wasn't. I take it you like to jump ahead to conclusions alot?
To be fair it was fairly recent that the found out the Vikings found America. Also Columbus was rediscovering America is a big deal because full globalization can take form
Rickgay Frank sarcasm?
Its weird how nobody is talking about Leif Erikson.-
My family is native American and my mom homeschooled me we always ended up studying a lot of his not so fun details and we still did school on the holiday.
Did you native American family talk about how your ancestors repeatedly sided with the enemy in an attempt to destroy the United States and previously the British colonies but failed on every occasion? There were a few tribes that were on good terms. Some were treated better, others eventually got treated poorly. Kind of got lumped in with the others the US Government didn't trust!
Mayflower Day?
Imagine we found a human civilization on another planet today. The impact and importance of this would be comparable to what the "discovery" of the Americas was to the new world back in the early 1500's. And people wonder why we still remember Columbus day?
"THE ONLY CHRISTOPHER WE ACKNOWLEDGE IS WALLACE!" - Jay Z
Or that young Master Robin ?
Schools teach you of American pride, not American atrocities.
@Science Basketball True, he was evil but we can't teach children that he is because that would mean teaching them about how he killed people.
Last time I've checked, Columbus landed in Bahamas which located in NORTH AMERICA just like Mexico, U.S.A and Canada..
He also explored Panama : )
The Knights of Columbus was founded by an Irish-American priest.
And not for some cult purpose- Fr. McGiveny wanted to create a men's fraternal organization and provide life insurance for Catholics.
Irish and Italians are both not true proper white people...Only Anglo-saxons were considered at the time
The Irish are as white you can get their even whiter compared to the French.
+Debo Datta how are Irish not Anglo Saxon?
TheZchristina97 irish people are descended from the native peoples of Britain and Anglo-Saxon refers to the conquering peoples that took over England during the Fall of Rome around 500 AD, pushing out most of the natives and the remaining Romans. So they’re a bit different.
Yeah yeah sure... Getting rid of Columbus day Indigenous People day, either one works for me.
Just give me a day off school, okay?
Why did Columbus prove the earth was round , when the Egyptians , Indians and greeks and already done so much before him ?
@Martin Vasco i did . many still believed in the flatearth back then . they didn't believe his claim of circling the earth .thats what I meant .
"Colón fue un asesino"
La fuente: *Bartolomé de las Casas*🥵
Sorprendente que no se mencione a España
España fue la única nación a la que se atribuye el descubrimiento de América. Podéis mentir e inventar la historia, pero la verdad jamás podréis cambiarla
VIVA EL REY
VIVA ESPAÑA
VIVAN LAS ESPAÑAS
VIVA NUESTRA FIESTA NACIONAL🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦
At 05:40 "According to a poll, more than half of Americans believe that we should celebrate Columbus Day". OF COURSE, the poll was brought to us by the KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS.
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I wouldn't put much faith in that poll!
It’s probably less but I’d imagine most of those people celebrate it as Italian immigrant day rather than genocide day
Columbus is neither saint nor genocidal maniac. Those who portray him as either, share only half the story. For a more balanced perspective, watch *"In Defense of Columbus: An Exaggerated Evil"* by the UA-cam channel _Knowing Better_
Tell that to the people of San Salvador, the island where columbus first landed....oh wait, you can't because the island was literally depopulated by him and his thugs. Columbus, after discovering the island, later wrote, “They are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has witnessed them would believe it,” and “They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance… They would make fine servants… With 50 men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”
With 17 additional ships and 1,200 men, Columbus promised to bring back as much gold and slaves as anyone could want. In 1495, they “rounded up” 1,500 Arawak men, women and children, chose 500 of the best, of which 200 died en route to Spain.
When the Arawaks could not produce enough gold, he cut off the hands of all those 14 years and older, and enslaved them on estates where they were worked to death. The most horrific reports came from a young priest, Bartolomé de Las Casas, who wrote, “The Spaniards think nothing of knifing Indians by tens and twenties and of cutting slices off them to test the sharpness of their blades.” He wrote of two Christians who met up with two Arawak boys and beheaded them for fun.
“Mothers drowned their babies from sheer desperation, husbands died in the mines, women died at work, children died from lack of milk… my eyes have seen acts so foreign to human nature, and now I tremble as I write,” de Las Casas wrote.
According to his writings as read in Howard Zinn’s book The People’s History of the United States, over 3 million people perished at the hands of Columbus from 1494 to 1508. By 1515 there were only 50,000 left. By 1550, there were 500.
@@post-leftluddite Literally every single quote you shared was addressed in the video I cited. Go watch it first, then come back and respond.
Why don't you just address those comments instead of sending him to a video? It shouldn't be on him to do your research.
That is a pretty good video. People need to watch it.
YES!!!! I love that channel. I seen the whole video and it really open my eyes that Colombas wasnt that bad.
Fun fact: as soon as Columbus came back to Spain, the queen was shocked what he had done so she left him powerless.
As a Scandinavian American, I demand it be called Leif Eriksson day! lol
As a Sicilian American, you are correct. Columbus does not represent us at all.