The Columbus Controversy

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2015
  • Find more resources for teaching about Columbus and the Tainos at the Zinn Education Project, here: www.zinnedproject.org/campaig...
    The Columbus Controversy documentary was produced for classrooms and teacher education programs by American School Publishers, a Macmillan/McGraw-Hill Company, (c) 1992. 23 minutes. ISBN: 0-383-05031-6
    Executive producer: Frank Beck
    Producer, director, writer: Nick Kaufman
    Editor: Mark Lipman
    Consultants: Howard Zinn, Kirkpatrick Sale, and Jose Barreiro

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  • @SerjioAcevedo
    @SerjioAcevedo 7 років тому +11

    Loved the closing remarks, especially, "The past cannot be undone, but it can be seen for what it was. ... an opportunity to reevaluate the European conquest of the Americas. It is only by broadening our understanding of the past that we can build a more equitable future."

    • @TheTim001
      @TheTim001 4 роки тому +2

      I agree, so long as context is taking into account. Hearing what people did in history and condemning them without understanding the context of that history is the basis of ignorance.

    • @saskk2290
      @saskk2290 10 місяців тому

      That has to be a Howard Zinn quote

  • @hollywisconsin
    @hollywisconsin Рік тому +2

    "Where Are they Now?" it'd be great if ZinnEducation Project did a follow up with these same students and see how their lives are going.

  • @joepropsnyc
    @joepropsnyc 6 років тому +6

    Unfortunately most conquering empires were vicious. From the beginning of time it's been such. Still is for the most part.

    • @jimmyjay689
      @jimmyjay689 4 роки тому

      Too bad we cant learn and build together...never the case when greed and profit are priorities....Indians could have let the white settlers die

    • @elijah5791
      @elijah5791 4 роки тому +1

      “Conquer” is by nature vicious. Most civilizations engage in conquests. That included Native American civilizations.

  • @zenzeix9541
    @zenzeix9541 3 роки тому +9

    Why am I using a video from 2015 for my history class. History teaches are so un edjucated.

    • @jacob.rausch
      @jacob.rausch 3 роки тому +2

      ye mee too

    • @snorke4548
      @snorke4548 3 роки тому +2

      yeah its just a script they gotta follow

    • @hehe-vy5kd
      @hehe-vy5kd 3 роки тому +1

      lol this for my Spanish class

    • @jacob.rausch
      @jacob.rausch 3 роки тому +1

      @@hehe-vy5kd world history

    • @quawey5703
      @quawey5703 3 роки тому

      @Qasim Mangla lmao

  • @rorozco061
    @rorozco061 3 роки тому +2

    Let's rewind history and imagine what life would be like today if Columbus never sailed the Atlantic? Life was different in 1492, we cannot compare it to today's standards...

    • @dro_dozer
      @dro_dozer 3 роки тому +1

      it's hard to say. It seems like the advancements and innovation of humankind could not have happened without genocide in the Americas. Was the sheer cost of human lives lost worth it? I say no. If only they weren't so quick to chop hands off because nobody had gold...

    • @saskk2290
      @saskk2290 10 місяців тому

      Life was different, but there were those who sought domination and riches, and those who sought peace and security. That has always been the dynamic. I think the argument you use is a rationalization for the crimes committed and how they influenced the current state of things, where murder, torture, subterfuge and vicious greed persist, all behind a thin veil of piety

  • @andreagaleano2017
    @andreagaleano2017 8 років тому +2

    Hey, I am doing a project for school and it is a little urgent. I watched your video and it really helped understand the controversy of Columbus. I was wondering whether you could send the links to where you found these images. It would be great if we could keep in contact. Thank you!

    • @Frank289100
      @Frank289100 6 років тому

      USE THIS. STUPIDITY IS DANGEROUS. NATIVE AMERICANS ARE NOT NATIVE TO THESE LANDS OF AMERICA. THE AMERICAN INDIANS CAME FROM MEXICO DURING THE MAYAN EMPIRE WHEN THEY FLED AS INDIVIDUAL TRIBES TO ESCAPE THE SACRIFICES OF THE MAYAN. THE MOVIE APOCALYPTO IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT. IF THEY CAME HERE 25,000 YEARS AGO OVER THE BEARING STRAIGHTS. DON'T YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN MODERN ROADS AND CITIES LIKE THE ONES YOU SEE IN EUROPE, BUT YET THEY DON'T EXIST BECAUSE THEY THEMSELVES WERE ALSO NEW COMERS TO THE NEW WORLD. THEY CAME A LITTLE BEFORE THE EUROPEANS DID. THEY CLAIM 3 MILLION PEOPLE PERISHED FROM WARS, SLAVERY, AND THE MINES OF HISPANIOLA UNDER THE RULE OF CHRISTOPER COLUMBUS? TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE HE WAS HIGHLY OUT NUMBERED BY THE NATIVES BY COUNTLESS MILLIONS WHO WERE TRIBES HEAVILY ARMED. ON HIS JOURNEY CHRISTOPER COLUMBUS LEFT SPAIN WITH 92 PRISONERS. WHEN THEY WERE LOST AT SEA, THESE PRISONERS BEING HIS CREW THOUGHT EVENTUALLY THEY WOULD FALL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE EARTH WAS FLAT. SO THE CREW ANGERY AT COLUMBUS, MADE HIM WALK THE GANG PLANK READY FOR THE SHARKS. AS COLUMBUS WALKED THE GANG PLANK AND GOT TO THE EDGE OF THE GANG PLANK, A DOVE WITH A BRANCH IN IT'S MOUTH LANDED ON THE SHIPS DECK AND THE CREW REALIZED THEY WERE NEAR LAND AND THIS SAVED CHRISTOPER COLUMBUS'S LIFE. THIS WAS A DIVINE INTERVENTION FROM GOD AND IF COLUMBUS DID ANY OF THESE THINGS HE IS ACCUSED OF, I DON'T THINK GOD WOULD HAVE SAVED HIM. THEY ARE ALL LIES. SO TELL ME HOW DID 92+1 = 93 MEN OVERWHELM PEOPLE WHO NUMBERED COUNTLESS MILLIONS. ANOTHER PLOY FOR UNEDUCATED RACIST HISPANICS TO DESTROY EUROPEAN HISTORY. IF IT WASN'T FOR THE WHITE SPANIARD EUROPEANS, THE LATIN RACE WOULD BE CULTURE LESS. IT WAS THE SPANIARDS WHO GAVE THEM AND LAUNGUAGE, RELIGION AND A STABLE CULTURE RIGHT DOWN TO THERE CUISINE AND CIVILIZED THEM, AND FREED THEM FROM THESE BARBARIC PRACTICES LIKE THE MAYANS WHO WERE SLAUGHTERING THE MEXICAN PEOPLE BY THE MILLIONS, AND IT WAS CORTEZ ANOTHER SPANIARD WHO FREED THE MEXICAN PEOPLE WHEN THEY WIPED OUT THESE SAVAGES THE MAYANS. THE DEVIL DOESN'T TAKE A VACATION. THESE PRIMITIVE PRACTICES OF SAVAGERY WERE ALL OVER LATIN AMERICA EVEN PUERTO RICO, DOMINICAN REPUBLICAN AND COUNTLESS OTHER LATIN COUNTRIES. THE SPANIARDS PUT A END TO THEM AND FREED THEM FROM THE DEVIL AND HER PRIMITIVE BELIEFS OF SACRIFICING PEOPLE TO MAKE IT RAIN. SINCE GOD PUT A END TO SATAN AND HER EVIL PRACTICES, SATAN NOW HAS TAKEN UP A PLOY TO ATTACK COLUMBUS AND NEXT IS CORTEZ.

  • @hx-flixblog4569
    @hx-flixblog4569 5 років тому +2

    Americans? That name was given to South America by a German map maker. North America was named Nova Espania and the Islands named the Antilles by him.

  • @dnehs1054
    @dnehs1054 6 років тому +1

    Discovery by the Civilization of the Old World. Something that was not known became known and this fact changed the course of World History.

  • @alexc.c.4025
    @alexc.c.4025 3 роки тому +1

    Evidence show that he was from portugal not italy. He came from a wealthy jewish portuguese family and not even his children new his real name when he died. I did not knew who Howard Zinn was until today, I´m not from the US obviously, since I was watching a lecture where he was getting pretty trashed for a lot of things, like telling a more accurate version of what really happened with columbus discovery of the "new world". But I think he did a excellent job presenting those facts to students in the US & give then a real view of "history".

  • @petersampson5202
    @petersampson5202 4 роки тому

    Its very sad. I cannot thank God enough for my awesome friends.

  • @simonalvarezbedoya5092
    @simonalvarezbedoya5092 4 роки тому

    Nice...

  • @alexc.c.4025
    @alexc.c.4025 3 роки тому

    21:58 That´s on point!

  • @switzerlandful
    @switzerlandful 4 роки тому +1

    BTW... what did the natives of the Americas call the Americas before it was given that name?

  • @nathancoleman7235
    @nathancoleman7235 Рік тому

    I kind don't know weather to regard that girl(2:25)as a real dummy or to just be utterly surprised.I totally did not know about this documentary at that time(back in 1992)

  • @dnehs1054
    @dnehs1054 6 років тому +5

    Non contextualized history becomes politics. No one mentions here that Caraibs were mostly cannibalistic raiders. The word "cannibal" is a derivate from their name.

    • @dnehs1054
      @dnehs1054 6 років тому +1

      Tureygua Ki - it is true that there are few Taino left nowadays in Hispaniola, and that is a shame. But there are very few Greeks and Christians left in Turkey nowadays. And in Anatolia (that is the former name for Turkey), they used to speak Greek and to profess Christianity almost up to 600 years ago. How is it that leftist historians are completely silent about that?

    • @dnehs1054
      @dnehs1054 6 років тому +1

      Tureygua Ki - To recap, history has to be comparative to be objective or becomes a tool of current political agendas.

    • @e-towncoz9897
      @e-towncoz9897 6 років тому

      True, but that does not justify killing them, it’s just their culture.

    • @dnehs1054
      @dnehs1054 6 років тому

      Had you written' "True, but that does not justify killing them because they are human beings too!" I would have agreed with you. But "it's just their culture" changes the equation. All human beings, past and present, have been or are part of a culture. If it were the culture to be blamed, no one would be guilty of anything.

    • @e-towncoz9897
      @e-towncoz9897 6 років тому

      DNE HS I am saying there is no perspective on that.

  • @coolcat5714
    @coolcat5714 6 років тому

    I wonder if his name will be scrubbed ....? District of Columbia? Columbus Ohio? Columbia university ? ....the famous Columbus Circle in New York?

  • @hx-flixblog4569
    @hx-flixblog4569 5 років тому +1

    Encountered! This man, Mohawk, got it right. Columbus didn't discover anything, he encountered lands of the Tainos, one group of my ancestors, and its people.

  • @jimmyjay689
    @jimmyjay689 4 роки тому

    My peoples🇩🇴

  • @alexc.c.4025
    @alexc.c.4025 3 роки тому +1

    Columbus was not born i italy but in Portugal as the evidence show. Columbus was not his real name. Until his death his children asked him for his real name, but he never told them. Columbus was of jewish origin and came from a wealthy family in Portugal. He had most likely already information about where to go since there where other travelers from spain in the "new world" before him. Spain wanted monopolism over the sea traveling to and from the new world in order to gain money & power.

  • @samueljames5167
    @samueljames5167 4 роки тому +3

    Ohhh, it’s revisionist history. LoL

  • @androclesst.matthew5934
    @androclesst.matthew5934 4 роки тому +2

    They've done worse than that Storm Wulf. As Mary Grabar, Carol Delaney, Rafael, Michael Knowles, Larry Schweikart, and others have shown, Columbus haters have deliberately omitted and quote-mined The Admiral of the Ocean Sea's words to paint him as a monster, when in reality, he was a heroic missionary. Columbus said the Arawaks, would make fine servants of God; Zinn deliberately left out the last two words to tar him as a slaver. Another Columbus hater, Dylan Matthews, quoted Columbus out of context to paint him as a pedophile/sex slaver. Columbus talks about girls as young as nine and ten being sold in a letter to Juana la Torres, but Matthews leave out the very next sentence, where the Italian explorer calls it a violent calumny by turbulent persons. As Pat Condell said, the truth doesn't matter to "progressives, what's correct is what matters.

    • @saskk2290
      @saskk2290 10 місяців тому

      Mary Grabar, Michael Knowles, Pat Condell...? These are not real sources of anything but self deception, and are US/ Western exceptionists

    • @Tusitala1967
      @Tusitala1967 5 місяців тому +1

      You are right. Carol Delaney's book opened my eyes.

    • @androclesst.matthew5934
      @androclesst.matthew5934 5 місяців тому

      @@Tusitala1967 glad to hear it !

  • @slavicgypsy5535
    @slavicgypsy5535 2 роки тому

    Zinn was a Plagerist.

  • @ryang790
    @ryang790 5 років тому

    blimey what the hell have american kids been taught all these years.. does explain alot though haha.

    • @androclesst.matthew5934
      @androclesst.matthew5934 4 роки тому

      They've been taught the patriotic truth, not the Bin Ladenist lies told to them by far leftists like you and Zinn and his synchophants!!!

    • @Ryang403
      @Ryang403 4 роки тому

      @@androclesst.matthew5934 lol WHAT.. go on... do more.. . so entertaining.. Thanks for proving my point tho..

    • @saskk2290
      @saskk2290 10 місяців тому

      ​@@androclesst.matthew5934 presuming the people are taught the truth by their masters is just cute. Stay innocent

    • @androclesst.matthew5934
      @androclesst.matthew5934 10 місяців тому

      STFU neomarxist shrew! You leftists are slavemasters yourselves in your dictatorships! And you’ll lie like dogs to gain power!@@saskk2290

  • @javierbusto1964
    @javierbusto1964 10 місяців тому

    What a silly video 😂

  • @CarlosTorres-zb2ck
    @CarlosTorres-zb2ck 6 років тому +6

    THAT MUSIC IS FROM MY COUNTRY, NOT FROM THE PLACE they are TALKING ABOUT.
    THIS IS NOT TEACHING HISTORY , THIS IS THE TEACHER ( video lady) TRYING TO TWIST THINGS TO MAKE STUDENTS THINK THE WAY THE TEACHER WANTS.
    COLUMBUS WAS JUST an EXPLORER. The ppl that follow him, in the beginning were ppl from jails because they were the only ones who wanted to risk their lives in a very DANGEROUS VOYAGE on the sea and then to encounter some natives that were not all sweet or very pacific. MOST OF THEM SCALP ppl ALIVE and let them died a VERY PAINFUL and SLOW DEADS.
    THEY USE TO FIGHT WITH OTHER TRIBES and enslave EACH OTHER. THEY USE to TORTURE EVEN CHILDREN. Different tribes had different BIZARRE & EXTREMELY CRUEL PRACTICES TO DOMINATE THE OTHER TRIBES, and most of the time THEY WERE EXTREMELY SADISTIC EVEN WITH THEIR OWN PPL , MOST OF THEM USED HUMAN SACRIFICES. That was in NORTH,CENTRAL and SOUTH-America. I'm from South America I STUDIED THE DIFFERENT CULTURES with the real ppl NOT ONLU FROM BOOKS.
    I LIVED AMONG THEM I KNOW THEIR BELIEVES and their ancestors believes first hand, NOT FROM THE SO CALLED History teachers" THAT HAVE A POLITICAL AGENDA and manipulate the students to be their USEFUL PUPPETS TO GAIN POLITICAL ADVANTAGES. THIS TEACHERS according to what I could hear, TWIST THE HISTORY TO FIT THEIR PARTICULAR PARTY AGENDA. But for the fruits you can tell the type of tree. WHY EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME TO USA??
    WHY NATIVES don't live the way they use to , IF IT WAS SO GREAT?? Natives I KONW anywhere want to live as the "evil" Americans or Europeans.
    IF THAT WAS SO GREAT? WHY AFRICAN-AMERICANS DON'T GO BACK TO AFRICA SINCE THEIR ARE FREE??
    THESE TEACHERS SHOULD STOP the ridiculous HYPOCRISY. THE TRUTH IS THAT ALL OF THEM ARE SUPER-HAPPY THAT COLUMBUS CAME and that USA exist , OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE ENJOYING THE LIFE THEY ENJOY THANKS TOMTHE SACRIFICE OF PPL THEY SLANDER and criticize not even telling the truth but even TWISTING IT TO MANIPULATE STUDENTS TO USE THEM as puppets to use them as USEFUL PUPETS to advance their PERSONAL POLITICAL AGENDA.

    • @e-towncoz9897
      @e-towncoz9897 6 років тому

      Very inaccurate.

    • @mgraffma61
      @mgraffma61 4 роки тому

      Carlos Torres is definitely not mad. The teacher is simply teaching history honestly

    • @saskk2290
      @saskk2290 10 місяців тому

      The US can be a land of opportunity but also be brutally corrupt and aggressive at the same time Carlos.