4 Reasons NOT to Buy a CFMOTO ATV

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  • @davila747
    @davila747 3 роки тому +57

    I bought 2 600’s back in January, One for my wife and one for myself and we LOVE them!!! Oil change is easy. I had to adjust the shift rod on my wife’s quad (minor and pretty simple) otherwise they run GREAT!! Got about 35 hours on them now!! Keep the videos coming, I love watching them!!

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +3

      Awesome David. Thanks for watching. If you have any video requests let me know. I need ideas haha

    • @bobboby2400
      @bobboby2400 2 роки тому +1

      They need to get their parts out especially better versions of Spark plugs. It's all good to have OEM stuff but that's not what sells. And since they're good for on road use in many areas they should push to have it legalized to ride in cities like all the other machines that are not comparable in safety. If somebody could drive a dinky electric moped on the streets a CF moto ATV should be allowed as well. Since they already come out stalk with pretty much everything to be valid for it.

    • @MrJohnnydublin
      @MrJohnnydublin 2 роки тому +1

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  • @thomasahlbrand7765
    @thomasahlbrand7765 3 роки тому +100

    People, look at the phone your using. Cheap Chinese junk? Don’t think so because everyone has one. I just bought a cfmoto uforce side by side. All the extras at a lower cost. Have a dealership right here for support. Not many miles yet but I believe Polaris was junk. The ran plastic gears and tore up all the time. Honda was slow as hell. I out ran all of the except for the Kawasaki 650 and it didn’t beat me by much. Happy with my cf moto and to hell with the haters.

    • @blop3148
      @blop3148 2 роки тому +6

      Agreed man... The new motors are KTM Bosch electronics and transmission is made in Canada
      Good buy. Best warranty by far.... 5 years man

    • @MrJohnnydublin
      @MrJohnnydublin 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/vzfV-Qj8ZhE/v-deo.html

    • @talkingjoseph5582
      @talkingjoseph5582 2 роки тому

      Hi Tom, been a year now, can you give any feedback as far as your ride is now.

    • @thomasahlbrand7765
      @thomasahlbrand7765 2 роки тому +1

      @@talkingjoseph5582 Haven’t looked at the mileage or hours lately but other than being kind of hard to change the oil filter, I have a U-Force 800 and I have big hands and to get my hand into the small opening it is still running very well. I mainly use it for work around my house and some minor trail riding. These machines are like anything else. Take them out and beat the heck out them and something is going to break. Again still running strong and happy with my purchase. No clutch kits, no spacers, lift kits or bigger tires. Just stock the way I like it.

    • @talkingjoseph5582
      @talkingjoseph5582 2 роки тому

      @@thomasahlbrand7765 thank you for taking your precious time to let us know. I'm looking into getting one and positive feedback is what I am after

  • @vincenterodriguez3618
    @vincenterodriguez3618 2 роки тому +12

    I bought cf600 double seat for my self and cf400. For my son They’re super smooth. Work great I had them for two years. 💯 % recommended. Easy maintenance 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @_DB.COOPER
    @_DB.COOPER 3 роки тому +63

    I bought 2 800’s in September of 2019. That makes them 2 years old now, I ride the hell out of one of them, got it up to 70mph and that was enough for me, I backed off. No major issues with either of them, so far so good. You get lots of bang for your buck with CF Moto. I would rather live like a Lion than live like a sheep.
    Edit: one of my CF Motos was a 800 SxS trail, I traded it in for a CF Moto 2021 600 ATV touring and so far so good.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +2

      GOAT comment!

    • @opnavesea
      @opnavesea 3 роки тому +2

      @@cfmotoman1270that's good because they eat a lot of Goat in chYna.

    • @jameshogg601
      @jameshogg601 2 роки тому

      I would hope so they are only 2 years old.

    • @carlosvejar3938
      @carlosvejar3938 2 роки тому +1

      So the build quality is good? You can put inexpensive parts together very well. The parts don't have to cost a lot to work well. That's my concern

    • @jonathanbrotherton3702
      @jonathanbrotherton3702 2 роки тому +1

      I got a 800XC and I love it

  • @rugby3874
    @rugby3874 Рік тому +5

    The thing about it is the American quad makers has Chinese Parts on their quads

  • @ArcticExploring
    @ArcticExploring 3 роки тому +20

    CFMoto is most sold atv brand in Sweden for last 2-3 years, and are really popular in many countries in Europe.
    There is big demand for 625 and bigger machines, and not many have 625 in stock.
    People tend to hate brands they don't have themself. It's like iphone vs any android phone, some like the more expensive phone (and atv), but not always better.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +4

      well said Arctic!

    • @ArcticExploring
      @ArcticExploring 3 роки тому +2

      @@cfmotoman1270 Thank you!

    • @finnishturtle3059
      @finnishturtle3059 3 роки тому +1

      Nice to see you here yeah ive only seen one 625 at my dealer they sell really good since they are affordable and looks good

    • @ArcticExploring
      @ArcticExploring 3 роки тому

      @@finnishturtle3059 In Norway it's really hard to get a 625 nowdays. But I think the main difference anyway is the frame, else 600 and 625 is the same machine.

    • @Tobbebohman
      @Tobbebohman 9 місяців тому +1

      Indeed. In 2023 the total sold CF moto atvs in Sweden was 3057. The second most sold was BRP which sold 1835 units. CF moto sold almost the double amount. Third was polaris which sold 1522. I bought the 625 touring -24 model based on What i’ve read about the brand. Not to talk about What you accually get for your money compared to other brands. I bought mine fully kited with bumpers , boxes , snowplow etc. The closest i could build the same machine with the same stuff on from another famous brand Would have cost me about 4000 dollar extra. Without aluminium rims. I get the thing like ” ive Always bought polaris ” fine ! You know What you get ! But for me, never owned an atv before , i dont give a sh*t about that . I look at the reviews , facts , price and so on. No sentimental value at all and to me , CF moto has created something very good.

  • @fabioforni5722
    @fabioforni5722 3 роки тому +9

    Cfmoto has bin in business for over 28 years and there quality has improved greatly over the last 4 or 5 years.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +1

      Yes sir! I hope they have something big up their sleeve to gain some traction and start competing head to head with Polaris/Honda/etc.

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому +2

      Why would you hope a communist Chinese company gains the upper hand?

    • @thadfoote8653
      @thadfoote8653 3 роки тому

      @@bertoa1587 They have and are doing so like before.Where do u think everything comes from,it's not Iceland,😂

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому

      @@thadfoote8653 either way laugh all you want I'm not the sucker with a cf motto

    • @thadfoote8653
      @thadfoote8653 3 роки тому

      @@bertoa1587 Never said I owned one,talking bout where everything comes from u nit.Gues u better quite buying vehicles,parts etc because there's where it comes from,oh don't eat anymore to because food is from there to.WAKE UP.I KNOW ITS SAD BUT ITS TRUE!

  • @sScritch
    @sScritch 3 роки тому +30

    Just bought two of the 600's after previously having a Can-Am 650 Outlander. I was not expecting the same performance and I am still very happy. I will never give $$ to Polaris, they are thieves who do not stand behind their product. I was enticed to buy these when I found out that they share the same manufacturing facilities and engineers as KTM. Outside of the US they are the largest motorsports manufacturer and my local dealer cannot keep them in stock. I am super stoked to have mine, and love the way it rides. Best bang for the buck award in my opinion. Keep up with all the great videos!!!

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +2

      Steve, I really appreciate your compliment. I'm glad you are enjoying the videos. It took me 5 phone calls to find a dealership that had mine in stock. They agreed to hold it for 1 hour and I zoomed up to grab it. These things are selling like.......hotcakes!

    • @juhavp7363
      @juhavp7363 3 роки тому +3

      Can-am 650 to CFmoto 600. Hah

    • @scottkeppler9151
      @scottkeppler9151 3 роки тому +2

      I agree I bought my first ATV last year at 45 , I looked at other brands same as you , I bought a cf500 love it came with a winch nice rims we all want to buy american but it's not possible today had three harleys all had asian made parts , have done a lot of work with it , hauling logs etc , at the land my father and I have , I live up north have a plow on mine it's a beast at plowing

    • @Omega-uj6qz
      @Omega-uj6qz 2 роки тому +2

      Bro, don’t talk about a machine that you’ve never had, I have an outlander and my brother has a sportsman, lemme tell you, the sportsman is a very good machine, it might not pull as much or be as fast but it’s so smooth and safe.

    • @jwilliams9611
      @jwilliams9611 2 роки тому +2

      You're 100% right on that Polaris deal. Garbage and the people that sell them don't even stand behind them. Both of my buddies have them 450 h.o lol witch is just a 500cc engine and the other one 570cc nothing but problems and they were both bought brand new.

  • @pvavmnpls
    @pvavmnpls 5 місяців тому +1

    I just bought a 2023 CF500, I agree with pretty much everything you said in this. I have limited knowledge of the brand but I have owned several other ATV's, both Polaris and Honda. I would say this rides the best, the power steering and basic features are awesome. With rebates to sell the overstock 2023 models including TX and trail permits I paid $5,410.00, out the door and loaded into my truck, far less then Polaris, Honda, and Yamaha. I also love that it comes with a 1 year warranty, I don't ride as much any longer so have the extra months means that next spring if I have any issues it will still be covered.

  • @Scrum67
    @Scrum67 3 роки тому +9

    I bought a 2021 CForce 600 Touring. It is my first ATV. The low end power isn't to bad. I am not racing it and so far I really like the machine. We get a 5 year warranty in Canada and we also get turn signals. As for other countries..I know they are big in Russia and some other European countries. Keep the videos coming. You are doing a good job.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +2

      Scrum, thank you for the kind words! Will definitely keep pumping out vids for you guys. My subscribers like you keep me fueled and motivated to improve the material. I'm with you, for me the low end get-up isn't as important. I am very happy overall with the pros and cons of this ATV. I believe it strikes a nice balance for the everyday rider.

  • @randykestner3870
    @randykestner3870 Рік тому +3

    My brother got one just like yours. It as impressed me about them. Have fun riding!!

  • @mikemcnulty6226
    @mikemcnulty6226 3 роки тому +9

    I beat the crap out of my 800 today, got a flat. I'm 53, riding Famous Reading Outdoors in Pennsylvania. This goes up walls, lol. I love the power, I got it up to 75mph and shit my pants. Great machine!

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      whoa!

    • @timm8087
      @timm8087 4 дні тому

      We go to AOAA often, haven’t been to the famous reading one, they require a membership right? Can’t just buy day passes??? We all have 300 and 400ex but I’m looking at getting a c force for the 4x4.

  • @marcus1971jd
    @marcus1971jd 3 роки тому +4

    I recently just purchased a Kymco mxu 450i and my girlfriend who has never ridden wanted to be able to ride with me so she bought a CFMOTO 400. Kymco is originally made in Taiwan but they now have a partner company in Spartanburg South Carolina. Kymco, the Arctic Cat is also a rebranded Kymco and Kymco also makes the motors for Kawasaki, and BMW scooters. I have ridden both, they are both great, but as far as the powerband the Kymco all day long. You can't go wrong with either they're both great quads.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +2

      As more and more Asian ATVs make their way into the marketplace, it sure will be interesting to see how things play out over the next decade for CFMOTO and Kymco.

  • @matthewtuggle5467
    @matthewtuggle5467 3 роки тому +13

    I test drove the 600 and thought the same thing. Then I test drove the 800 and that took away all the issues. The 800 has all the power and pick up you need.

  • @jackgoldman1
    @jackgoldman1 10 місяців тому +1

    Bought a CF MOTO 500 this week for $4,995. New under $5,000 is why I bought. Honda would be ten years old, 2,000 miles for same price. In am in MN. Headquarters for CF MOTO is in Minneapolis. Many dealers here. Could be a mistake but I have a cabin and want to motor up from my EZ GO golf cart and go in the woods. I will find out after taking the plunge and getting married. Price did it. Plus $3,000 cheaper with winch and power steering, features I wanted. I am a value shopper.

  • @georgehuybers1314
    @georgehuybers1314 2 роки тому +6

    Just bought a 2021 CFMOTO cforce 400 2 up last week and we've been riding a lot on the snowy trails and the 4wd lock works great with lots of traction, I'm also impressed with the top speed of 97kms/hr, also starts right up at minus 24 Celsius and runs perfect!

  • @crapatron17
    @crapatron17 3 роки тому +7

    I got a cforce 500 as my first atv this year. I dig it so far. The tech at the dealer told me he has not seen any units come back unless they were wrecked with bent bars or one not properly snorkelled and had the water pump replaced. He did say this is the first year they have sold them, but are the most popular brand that they sell right now.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +1

      Makes me wonder what CFMOTO has up its sleeve for the future. I wonder if they will stick with these models, since they are selling so well.

    • @crapatron17
      @crapatron17 3 роки тому +3

      @@cfmotoman1270 I can see them dropping the 400 cforce maybe, but if they can prove to be reliable machines and keep these prices, I can't see them making too many lineup changes. My dealer seems to sell a ton of them according to the tech and sales guy I spoke to.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +4

      @@crapatron17 I asked my dealer what the top selling CFORCE model was at their location....600 Touring

    • @crapatron17
      @crapatron17 3 роки тому +1

      @@cfmotoman1270 no doubt the 600 is the top seller. It looks like a top shelf machine, has all the features of high end atv and cost as much as bare bones mid level machine with no extras. I may upgrade to a 600 over time if I don't get a side x side.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +1

      @@crapatron17 love it! good luck crapatron!

  • @bradygooden7689
    @bradygooden7689 3 роки тому +5

    I ride in West Virginia and Tennessee and I don't see many at all but I am a firm believer that it can perform with the best

  • @primer3458
    @primer3458 3 роки тому +16

    Neighbors got a 600 and I’ve got a Polaris 570. I paid about a couple hundred dollars more for mine and I leave him in the dust every time. Just hit 1000 miles and absolutely no issues except belt replacement which is cheap. For the price these cfmotos aren’t bad but I won’t be getting one until I’m old and need something slower and less aggressive. Seems like they hold up well though!

    • @scottdraper2796
      @scottdraper2796 Рік тому

      Yeah you don't have the same options as the CFMoto either. Must have a bare bones Sportman. Base model cost more than the CFMoto.

    • @jacobsebastien3910
      @jacobsebastien3910 2 місяці тому

      Stop lieing

    • @primer3458
      @primer3458 2 місяці тому

      @@jacobsebastien3910 Learn how to spell

  • @truthbtold9794
    @truthbtold9794 2 роки тому +7

    The delayed throttle is a safety thing I think. Remember these aren’t meant for racing. And like u bro I just want a smooth ride. I bought a 2019 600. Best decision I’ve made. I literally beat the crap out of it on trails and around the yard still fires up and runs great. Never garaged only $350 in upkeep. These things are reliable fully loaded fun to ride and half the price. And everyone that sees my quad loves it until they see it’s a cf moto. Screw the haters it’s a great machine

    • @patrickcurram9763
      @patrickcurram9763 2 роки тому +1

      They are a fantastic machine. I don’t think I’ll get anything but from here on out. Went to trade in and couldn’t get what I wanted for the money then I seen these. Can’t find an unhappy rider lol they have been around for a long time

    • @CrookedlegGreg
      @CrookedlegGreg Рік тому

      They are half the price of what ?😮

    • @truthbtold9794
      @truthbtold9794 Рік тому

      @@CrookedlegGreg of a can am or Polaris. My bad

    • @truthbtold9794
      @truthbtold9794 8 місяців тому

      Another 2yrs still under $500 in maintenance own for about 5 yrs.

  • @brianhammond81
    @brianhammond81 3 роки тому +5

    Last week I was up by Elkins,WV on a charity ride and I seen all kinds of CFMOTOs

  • @jdorney70
    @jdorney70 3 роки тому +3

    My friend bought one last year. So far so good. The build quality seems to be alright, and the price is even better.

  • @santtukorpinen2777
    @santtukorpinen2777 3 роки тому +10

    if you want to do something about the rpm or want it to start moving earlier
    you should tinker with the clutch

  • @Coopdaddy70
    @Coopdaddy70 3 роки тому +4

    We bought a CF 800 XC Touring that comes with 14" rims carrying 26" tires and the CF 600 with its own 12" rims and 25" tires. Moved the stock tires off of the 800 and put the tires and rims on the 600. Bought another set of stock 800 rims and added 28 in tires in place . Wowzer...what a sharp beefier look on BOTH machines. Your review help us confirm our purchase.

    • @dougiet2206
      @dougiet2206 2 роки тому +2

      Hey Micheal Merry Christmas! I also have a 2020 800xc and want to get bigger tires for clearance. Do the 28"s rub anywhere? Did you take the mud guards off the fenders? thanks

    • @Coopdaddy70
      @Coopdaddy70 2 роки тому +1

      @@dougiet2206 Merry Christmas to you! Nope didn't change anything but the tires onto the same rims. 28" clear easily and I left everything in place

  • @ravenhuggins7375
    @ravenhuggins7375 3 роки тому +27

    Gaining popularity with the new body styles, went out to a big park about a month ago and saw about 8-10 other than mine and my buddies. Everyone who saw it loved the way it looked. No one made any bad comments. Can’t beat them for the price f*k the haters

    • @wyro5o
      @wyro5o 3 роки тому

      They look like they’re clearly made in China lmao like shit. They’re popular because they’re cheap, that’s it.

  • @karinnation
    @karinnation 3 роки тому +36

    So far I’m very pleased with mine, always keeps up with the most popular brands. The lower price is definitely worth the few downsides.
    Changing gears sometimes was tricky, but my husband was able to fix it after watching your previous video. (Thanks, btw!)

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому +2

      Please don't try comparing this to my honda..... thank you

    • @wyro5o
      @wyro5o 3 роки тому

      A CanAm or Polaris would wipe the floor with this China shit brand lmfao. Don’t kid yourself

    • @karinnation
      @karinnation 3 роки тому +2

      I’ve seen a Polaris blowing up a tire already while my CFMoto went through no problems, no ATV maker is immune of issues haha

    • @stinkydog8408
      @stinkydog8408 2 роки тому +2

      Dont compare to your Honda hmm? Will that be before or after the transmissions crapped out or when its got a few years on and suspension mounts rot off in typical Honda fashion? Every make you can pick holes in. Im rebuilding a 2007 cf500 at mo, some things can be done better but these were 1st shot at big markets and did well. Frames in great shape far better than most Hondas and Kawasakis of same age. The 2013 on CF motos are on par with anything else out there, half the price of a Can Am, is a Can Am twice the vehicle, Bombardier badge makes me think not. Horses for courses....

    • @NameAttempt1
      @NameAttempt1 2 роки тому

      @@wyro5o no one said they wouldn't

  • @nathanbates7980
    @nathanbates7980 3 роки тому +6

    Picked up my 2021 CForce 600 a few months ago. I love everything about the machine. Not one complaint. And i have ridden and owned plenty of other machines. I may put a clutch kit in it at some point but honestly I don't see it as necessary.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +1

      Glad to hear you are happy with yours. I don't regret buying mine at all! Thanks for watching!

    • @ericlaplante7326
      @ericlaplante7326 2 роки тому

      Just got a 2021 500s and did the stage 1 kit and i love it . The lag at take off is gone .....

  • @atvseatexchange2176
    @atvseatexchange2176 3 роки тому +3

    Been around since 89, re-clock the secondary clutch and that will give you a little bit better off the line without a jolt.

  • @tomislavkukic1395
    @tomislavkukic1395 Рік тому +1

    I own couple of them, my brother also, man we even rent them here, and everyone whos renting it rents CFMoto, they are great, especially for beginners, low end meintenance, and with the CVT and bosh electronics, and all konds of goodiew as standard which you pay a lot with the name brands, CFMoto is here to stay, thont abou merica but here oh yes it is great. I'm not the man who will give a dam about what others say I need something that satisfied my needs.

  • @jackpeters9048
    @jackpeters9048 3 роки тому +1

    Bought my 2nd 21 600 cforce...so far, no issues...I'm a trail rider, not a mud bogger....but I'm happy with the product...that said, ask your buddies on the other brands, if they're aware that a significant portion of components on their machine comes from CHINA...be it good or bad, thats the reality of it....walk through lowes or home depot tool sections and see what you can find made in America.....The cf moto is a good solid machine for less money...If you stuck Polaris logos on it and loaned it to someone for a couple days, then told them what you paid for it fully equipped from the factory, 9 out of 10 would say wow and probably consider buying one...I remember as a small boy seeing the first honda 50 trail (step through frame) on a demo from the honda dealer...some were impressed with the little bike that boasted the ability to haul out a deer on it's rear rack...Other's scoffed, and smirked, " it's made in japan...how good could it be ?"

  • @robinbreeze270
    @robinbreeze270 3 роки тому +2

    I'm almost 64 years old. I have rode and owned many brands of atv's and atc's over the years. At my age I trail ride in the woods and atv trails in my area. My main ride is my 2014 Honda foreman set up for my type of riding and is my go to machine for long trips. I bought a 2020 cfmoto 600s with a moose plow. It plows great and I am starting to ride it more and more as time goes by. It is my back up for others to ride too. My kids and grandkids love it over the Honda. If I were you I would put the clutch kit in it. It takes care of the high rpm start. It engages faster at lower rpm. Great throttle response now. Like night and day. Takes care of what you did not like about the take off. Best up grade you can make for the money. I bought the clutch kit about six months ago. Whole different animal. And less vibration.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      Robin, appreciate the advice. I will hold out on the clutch kit for now. Maybe one day, but I want to see how these clutch kits hold out long term when people have them installed for years on these newer generation CFORCEs. Thanks for watching!

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому

      Your are an absolute fool to think you can compare to honda lmao must have not treated yours very well.

    • @robinbreeze270
      @robinbreeze270 3 роки тому +4

      @@bertoa1587 Then a fool I be.I never talked down about all my Honda's fool. I still like my cfmoto. So now what fool? Now who is the fool. Troll

    • @chadandersen1119
      @chadandersen1119 3 роки тому

      Where did you purchase your clutch kit

    • @robinbreeze270
      @robinbreeze270 3 роки тому

      @@chadandersen1119 Main Street cycle. They just got more in stock. I am installing a kit in my nephews cfmoto950 sxs this weekend. They said they just got kits in for most models. But hurry they are going fast.

  • @zukkiridesmoto
    @zukkiridesmoto 3 роки тому +9

    I am picking up my first new (atv) CForce 500 this weekend and I am so excited. The reason why I am buying the CFMoto is because of all the bells and whistles it comes with such as winch, power steering, LED lighting, digital gauge and among other things that really fits my budget. My purpose for this atv is for me to put the snow plow for the winter and do some light trail rides. I live in Pocono Pennsylvania and the community that I live in has short cuts to the trails. CFMoto is still a young company compare to known other brands and they have a lot of room for improvements on their product. I will give them the benefit of the doubt. Besides, my neighbor has been ATV'ing for years and he owns Kawasaki and Yamaha ATV's, his CForce 600 has become his favorite ATV to ride.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +1

      Fellow PA resident! We are in the beginnings of a CFMOTO revolution! Onward!

    • @scottkeppler9151
      @scottkeppler9151 3 роки тому

      Good bought a cf500 last year my first at 45 great machine.
      '

    • @rolandleies9765
      @rolandleies9765 2 роки тому

      Does the lack of low end torque make it hard to plow snow?

  • @williammartynjones3549
    @williammartynjones3549 3 роки тому +9

    They're the most common road legal quads in GB especially in Wales.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +1

      Didn't know that! Thanks for watching!

    • @AJ-qn6gd
      @AJ-qn6gd 3 роки тому +2

      Not just in G.B but the whole of Europe, I’ve owned mine for 6 years it’s been great must take it to Wales someday 👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @michaelshea5622
    @michaelshea5622 2 роки тому +1

    I bought a 2022 C600 identical to yours about a month ago. I live in West Montana where a quad is a way of life. I have owned Polaris and Yamaha and was pleased with them but this CForce is the stuff. A friend bout one of these last fall but his is an 800. He loves it. I went to buy a Polaris from my local dealer and they have a nice pretty new building and it's empty. No inventory. Did they ask my name number and what I was interested in? Nope. Basically it was a screw you attitude. I agree, the guys who bash these never owned a quad. Great video.

  • @timwaddell9450
    @timwaddell9450 2 місяці тому

    I have 2 400s cforces, no issues at all, these are rock solid. Mine are both 2017 models. I plow and ride in the rockies and desterts. Recommend cfmoto for sure.

  • @ineverplayedb4292
    @ineverplayedb4292 3 роки тому +5

    I'm a skook dude with that exact quad but I mostly ride the woods behind my house. I'm up to 240 miles on the 2 I got. I really havent had any issue besides the high rpm in low gear on the 600 2up. The 500 single doesn't do that for me. I also like the single better because the steering radius is much better.

    • @angryman71
      @angryman71 3 роки тому +2

      I've got the 2021 touring 600 and the 2021 XC800... my 800 accelerates so much differently than the 600... still in break in on both... but went trail riding with the wife, and was at 65+mph with the 800 and A LOT MORE to go on the throttle -- that thing, you hit it and it's there... (probably like your 500). The 600 gets going, too, but further up the power band... I am considering doing a clutch kit on the 600 as I understand that makes the world of difference and makes it run more like the 800... SO FAR, very happy with these machines.

  • @ReDNeckRoY
    @ReDNeckRoY 10 місяців тому +1

    CF Moto is a reputable company that has been providing ATVs and such across the pond for many many years. They are a great reliable budget machine.

  • @eviel19852006
    @eviel19852006 2 роки тому

    I have a 2008 CF500 and still going strong. Not perfect, but just bought a 2022 and the quality has improved. Looking forward to putting some miles on the new one.

  • @quadcorfuadventure
    @quadcorfuadventure 3 роки тому +7

    In Germany and Austria, CF Moto is best-selling ATV. In all of Europe among the three best selling ATV's. And Can Am is Made in Mexico 😉😁

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      great to hear from overseas. its nice to get an international perspective. Are they viewed as relible in those countries?

  • @bradjon7231
    @bradjon7231 3 місяці тому +1

    I currently have a Polaris 500HO ATV. Wont spend the $$$ for a Polaris again.
    Im looking to purchase the 500 CF Moto.

  • @kenlathrop7106
    @kenlathrop7106 2 роки тому +3

    We have a Cforce 600 touring and a CanAm 650 sitting side by side in the shop. We always grab the Cforce because it shifts better and is more comfortable. Love our CFmoto.

  • @drdaledobek9882
    @drdaledobek9882 3 роки тому +4

    I bought a early 2021 800xc and I've 1200 km on it and must say it's a great machine .zero issues with mine...anyone who bashes cfmotto cant afford one to see for themselves that other brands have rode on their shit logos for far to long while dropping quality way back...and ps...4 wheelers are not boats , sea doos, submarines, or argos...99 percent of guys who like to impress their buddy's go home with destroyed junk regardless of what brand...

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      Straight to the point Ryan! I dig your comment!

  • @alexx_97
    @alexx_97 3 роки тому +14

    In Romania CFMoto its the most popular brand, and the most reliabale.

  • @Megaman96
    @Megaman96 3 роки тому +3

    My grandparents bought a 500 2 seater back in 2013 it have over 3000 miles and the only issue I know of was a bolt had come off the steering causing the wheels to turn opposite ways. Other then that we've beat the crap out of it and she's still going. I was happy with what that 2013 did so I recently bought a 2021 800xc.

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      everyone needs to read your comment! long term reliability right there!

  • @gordlockwood1213
    @gordlockwood1213 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video! I don't know why Covid-19 increased the demand for ATVs, but it did. And because of that, supply was insufficient. "Put a $2000 deposit down and you will have your ATV in 6 months, maybe" Wait lists!
    Yamaha just jacked up the price $1000 (Canadian) across the board for (unchanged from 2022) 2023 models because they can. I think we are going to be seeing many more CFMOTOs on the trail in the future. We have two reputable dealerships in my town that have CFMOTO. One of them also sells Hondas, so the dealer network is growing and becoming more reliable in my area.
    I can get a CFORCE 800 XC for $2000 less than a Grizzly. There are pros and cons to every choice: the CFORCE 800 is heavier, it doesn't have a sprag clutch like the Grizzly for strong engine braking, it doesn't have a 10 year CVT belt warranty. BUT, I like the 2nd seat, raised footpegs, enough horsepower for running tracks in winter, and the price.

  • @thomascornelius510
    @thomascornelius510 2 роки тому +1

    I have the same thing with my 950. You best explained it with the rubberband affect.

  • @xxxviii007
    @xxxviii007 3 роки тому

    Primary clutch kit is a must. Call main street cycle, you will love it! Please for the sake of the brand.

  • @southerntommygun1353
    @southerntommygun1353 3 роки тому +10

    Been checking prices on various ATV's and was under the impression these were a lot less expensive but that hasn't been the case. If I'm going to pay a regular price I prefer a better built machine.

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому

      Exactly what I did. My friend went cheap with one of these and now hates his life.

    • @brandonwhite1784
      @brandonwhite1784 3 роки тому +1

      Not sure where you are buying these but I bought a cforce 800xc for 8500$ out the door while the comparable can am was ugly as fuck and 17,000$ with no winch, no aluminum wheels no led lights. Also the no low end torque is the nature of building a cvt that lasts. The machine has amazing power delivery. And you used “unproven reliability” as a reason not to buy and your idea of unproven was because you don’t see a lot in your area. This video is just garbage and has no actual substance to it.

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому +1

      @@brandonwhite1784 you got junk compared to can am lmao

    • @brandonwhite1784
      @brandonwhite1784 3 роки тому +5

      @@bertoa1587 you can’t actually tell me if I got junk, I am happy with the machine, it performs perfectly it looks 10000times better than can am garbage and cost me half as much. I’ve ridden many machines, Nothing is perfect for everyone and every machine has its downfalls. For you to sit there and tell me I got junk because it’s not a can am is ignorant and I feel bad for your friends cuz they have to put up with it.

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому

      @@brandonwhite1784 look dude tell yourself whatever you need to justify your purchase

  • @johnkinney1219
    @johnkinney1219 3 роки тому +1

    Who cares what people think. If you like it go for it! Thanks for your honesty;!👍

  • @pushnook
    @pushnook 3 роки тому

    I was told today that a friend had a small issue with his moto and they drove 50 miles to get it and fix the issue and brought it back...impressive

  • @ant2464
    @ant2464 3 роки тому +3

    Zero issues 2020 800XC. Zero issues 2019 TAO 125. I like being the lone wolf up here in NY because everyone and their mother owns a Polaris or Can-Am and they either love or hate....so who cares what ya ride. 😂

  • @thegreatoutthere
    @thegreatoutthere Рік тому

    As with any brand, you are 100% dependent on the dealer support. I owned a CFM 800 in Arizona and was well-supported by the local dealer. He was a former Polaris mechanic and stood behind the CFM ATVs and SXSs as superior in engineering.

  • @deerek2013texas09
    @deerek2013texas09 2 роки тому

    Just picked up a 2021 500s. I'm a Honda guy. But dang way more balls. So smoth I love it. Top speed 67mph

  • @charlesgresham4114
    @charlesgresham4114 3 роки тому +3

    I am picking up my new 600 2 up this weekend. I spoke to 4 different dealers in my area trying to find one in stock. They are all multi-manufacturer dealers and they all recommended the cfmotos over their other brand with bang for your buck in mind. And they each have sold over 100 cfmotos this year alone.
    The dealer that I ordered from showed me his order list for the remainder of the year... They have ordered a DOZEN in each color and each size of each line (c,u,z force). They have almost completely sold them out on deposit except for the 2 ups.
    You're going to be seeing a shit load more on Hatfield and Spearhead in the next year.

  • @billmillmine3106
    @billmillmine3106 3 роки тому

    Picked up a 600 touring 2 up camo today. Took it out back and was very pleased. Dealer offered me 6 year extended warranty for $800.

    • @bertoa1587
      @bertoa1587 3 роки тому

      They don't honor much from what I've heard

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      cool dude! enjoy your new wheeler! camo looks awesome. i wish it wasnt extra or I wouldve went for that!

    • @billmillmine3106
      @billmillmine3106 3 роки тому

      I have fourty hours on it now and totally love it. I use it on my 60 acres with logging trails all over, up and down, in Southern Ohio. If your not an excellent driver you would probably get yourself in a risky situation on any quad. But the CFMoto 600 touring went through it all with ease. The covers could be easier to remove but you will get use to it after looking at it a few times.

  • @alanj7306
    @alanj7306 3 роки тому

    Don’t care about what others think about you or have to say. Solves that problem!

  • @Joe-mp4nw
    @Joe-mp4nw 3 роки тому +4

    I think getting a clutch kit makes it more smooth but you do you

  • @minimoe2020
    @minimoe2020 10 місяців тому

    just traden in my 600 for 850 and the 600 was fantastic no issuses at all, ive had it for 6 years now and probably used twice as much as an regular person would have used a ATV. fantastic Machine

  • @codytyler5337
    @codytyler5337 3 роки тому +1

    My family and a few friends have all got cfmotos we go wheeling and have never broken down or gotten hurt with them and we don’t baby them either my 600 had seen about as much air as my yfz450 that I race in our experience they are excellent quad for the price and if you are a budget minded person it’s worth a glance if nothing else

  • @jayskin2615
    @jayskin2615 2 роки тому

    Drove around a cf1000 in Northern Minnesota last weekend. And it wasn't that bad. It did not have much low end torque, but after a while I didn't even notice it.

  • @kuvyoghmoobamelica6883
    @kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 3 роки тому +2

    You said it yourself bro. You don't need low end torque. It's suppose to be a smooth ride, you don't want this thing to take off like a single rider ATV. This is meant for 2 people and doesn't need faster pick up speeds. This is why I recommend buying this CForce 600. These CFMOTO ATV's are pretty popular in Canada. I visited a cousin up in Canada, and you mostly see CFMOTO's over Hondas and Polaris ATV's.

  • @woofy548
    @woofy548 2 роки тому +3

    Stigma is the #1 reason to keep people from them. Chinese products just have a horrible reputation. And it will drastically affect the resale value.

  • @scottkeppler9151
    @scottkeppler9151 3 роки тому +2

    I bought my first atv last year at 45 , got a 500 cfmoto, I looked at honda etc great machine I dont need to go bat out of hell , my cf came with a winch nice rims the other brands didnt come with this , All atvs are made in asian countries , Even harleys have asian made parts made in it it's not a hard machine to maintain .

  • @jaredglass2562
    @jaredglass2562 3 роки тому +1

    From a reliability standpoint I don't see how you can beat a yamaha or Honda. 10 very hard years so far on my big bear and no issues at all. My farther has 20 years on his big bear and no issues at all. I know several people with 20 plus year old 4 tracs that are running great.

  • @rickvarro313
    @rickvarro313 Місяць тому

    I've had my '17 C Force 500 HO since new in Canada. I plow snow with it which is tough on machines. The front diff loosened off and required some repairs as a result but I caught it in time. The rad fan switch failed....was a common problem, dealer gave me a new one no charge. Blew the ramp plate out of the primary clutch.....haha....Canadian clutch on it. Other than that, the speed sensor went which was easy to change. Can't say I'm disappointed, have put this machine through a lot.

  • @HumorousHearsay
    @HumorousHearsay 3 роки тому +1

    I could care less what people say or think and I’m from Texas ! Are you saying it has a lot of low end torque, or doesn’t? I’m looking for one with the most pulling power. I’m not a mud person, I use mine on a 350 acre farm.

  • @knoxcrider9835
    @knoxcrider9835 2 роки тому +1

    I’m pretty sure CF Moto partners with KTM these days, I’ve got a polaris, but these have always intrigued me……. Our dealer around here was notorious for not taking care of customers as far as warranty work goes, and that’s what’s kept me from getting one. They are sharp though, and just like any machine, if you take care of it, it’ll run forever.

  • @WalleyeHunter
    @WalleyeHunter 3 роки тому +2

    I believe they’ve been selling them in Canada for many years before they eventually made it to the states. And as far as reliability goes I’ve had my 500 HO for about six years now and it still runs fine.

  • @lionheart8083
    @lionheart8083 3 роки тому +5

    Soon, it will compete with the major brands in the market in terms of quality, luxury, beauty, and especially price. They are developing very quickly…

  • @bleepersoffgrid
    @bleepersoffgrid 2 роки тому

    I just got one ....2021 cforce 600 ...I pick it up Saturday and to be honest I only bought it because....I always wanted a can am and my cousin got a 450 outlander and he wouldn't stop saying how he wished he found a cf Moto instead....so that's what I just got .....to drive to work then when spring comes.....I tell ya what... There's trails all over where I live and I'll be out every weekend for sure

  • @thegunshowshow
    @thegunshowshow 4 місяці тому

    I bought mine (2024 600 Touring) cause my buddies 500 is awesome ha. It blazes trails, smashes trees, pulls everyone out - got to dealer and...why pay 3k more for less features?

  • @Butchmcmasters7MM
    @Butchmcmasters7MM 2 роки тому

    I just bought a cfmoto 800xc and I’m in Sullivan county so there’s one more here in Pa I came from Honda and price point and Accessories is why I bought the CF Moto we’ll see what happens in the next couple months I bought a snow plow for it as well

  • @lionheart8083
    @lionheart8083 3 роки тому +1

    Just try them out and you will love them i am sure. Especially the cfmoto ATV Gladiator 1000cc 2021 Its a beast man at reasonable price. Premium quality and looks sexy and so agressive.

  • @dustytrailswithepa
    @dustytrailswithepa Рік тому

    Well I bought one anyway. 2021 600 single seat and I LOVE it !

  • @rad7174
    @rad7174 3 роки тому +1

    I have a 2018 C force 500. Been to 3 different atv parks. I have put it to the test, and it has held up well. 👍
    My son n law has a 2017 Polaris 570. Breaks an axle about every time we're out and can't get it wet because the belt slips. 👎

  • @ericsmith9083
    @ericsmith9083 2 роки тому

    I have a cf moto 800xc and I doesn’t gives me any problems… just be happy that you have a four wheeler

  • @jamesalbin6194
    @jamesalbin6194 Місяць тому

    I live in Northern N.M and I have own nothing but Hondas and I bought a 2021 CFORCE 600 and I have 1000+ miles and I haven't had any problems with it and it goes like crazy and the ride and handling is great. My only problem is it's noisy and I am use to the gear drive in Hondas and centrifugal clutches I am not real crazy about them.

  • @huntingforadventure6325
    @huntingforadventure6325 3 роки тому +1

    Here in southern Illinois and Missouri they seem to be flying of the dealership floors in summer of 2021. I have a buddy that is waiting on his new model, and we just got a older model after months of looking. I think tomorrow start setting a lot more soon

  • @henryjohnston3569
    @henryjohnston3569 2 роки тому

    We have had a 2012 Terra Lander 500 (X5 in us I think) on the farm and it still runs fine after 10 years with Bassically no maintenance

  • @donniescott8774
    @donniescott8774 3 роки тому +4

    I have a 20-20 600 tour cf Moto almost got 7,000 miles on it had it almost a year and a half

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +1

      Now if that ain't reliability I don't know what is! Hopefully many more years to come.

  • @waynehoberg1655
    @waynehoberg1655 Рік тому

    Greetings from the GWN. Of the 4. 1) it would be nice to have some torque off the line. 2) I drive a Yamaha so my Polaris buddies have same BS. 3) Love wrenching so that would either deter or make me better lol 4) Never worried about what anyone thought of me since receiving 0 valentines cards in grade 1 hahaha. Good video 👊

  • @itakeshowers3030
    @itakeshowers3030 2 роки тому +2

    Can am: French Canadian
    Yamaha: Japan
    Honda: Japan
    Kawasaki: Japan
    Suzuki: Japan
    The only two that are American made are Arctic cat and Polaris. If being American made sounds better or is cool then its not really legit. Honda and Yamaha are the most reliable quads on the market. Both Japanese made.

    • @chromasux2
      @chromasux2 2 роки тому

      While I agree Kawasakis and Yamahas are Japanese companies, they're ATV's are made in the states. I have family that makes Kawasaki bikes and ATVs in Missouri.

    • @itakeshowers3030
      @itakeshowers3030 2 роки тому

      @@chromasux2 assembled in the states, not made or engineered there.

  • @finnishturtle3059
    @finnishturtle3059 3 роки тому +2

    I have ridden my cfmoto 520l almost 12 000km about 425 hours and the only issues ive had is a broken heatshield and a noisey starter that was covered by warranty

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      That is so awesome to hear. That's some heavy riding there!

  • @aoweiyin8899
    @aoweiyin8899 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video . I was thinking if it’s even cheaper to purchase it directly from China

  • @ronaldnoel5915
    @ronaldnoel5915 2 роки тому

    I’m in coal country pa also . Where you located? Your correct about the everyone has a Polaris or can am. I like a Bruteforce myself.

  • @jtlawnstoneconstruction9923

    The plastic vibration is annoying but my only 2 issue iv had is belt slips when wet but my big one is the winch cable has started to fail Frey

  • @pyzik200
    @pyzik200 10 місяців тому

    I ended up buying one of these today. Not gonna like, the fact that it is Chinese made it a VERY hard sell. It's mostly for the wife and it's the one she liked. But it's hard to be super excited at the moment. Hopefully it turns out to be a great machine

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  10 місяців тому

      I think you'll be surprised how much you would be able to sell it for, if that situation every arises.

  • @Kip4500
    @Kip4500 3 роки тому

    I found this post interesting... The Polaris 570 is one of the Liberty line of engines manufactured in Osceola, WI with parts sourced globally; so it's American, Chinese, Japanese, Canadian, Indian, Pakistani, Mexican and......................
    Same as Honda, Toyota, Ford, Chevy and the rest.
    Polaris Fuji/Suburu engines manufactured under the Robin moniker were manufactured in the US at a plant in Illinois. However, Polaris bought a stake in KTM and it was at that time KTM introduced their line of ATV's and Polaris adopted their 450 engine to power certain models. KTM engines have parts manufactured in Japan, China, Austria, Germany and...................
    During the 70's when Honda and other Japanese manufacturers could not keep up with production demands, they hired the Chinese to build their engines. That's why Chinese engines look like Honda and Yamaha engines and have the same quality, however Chinese electrics, frames, wheels, axles and other components are inferior mostly due to them not having the metallurgy of the US or Japan. I have seen new Chinese ATV tires leak through the sidewall with no obvious defects. Just poor materials or workmanship.
    I just ordered a Sportsman 570 Trail.

  • @zac0912
    @zac0912 2 роки тому

    My 84 Honda 250es Big Red still runs great. Have had it since 90ish. But i have been looking closely at these, cause prices of everything has gone insane. I just hope you can find parts down the line.

  • @Gabriellariz
    @Gabriellariz 9 місяців тому

    To anyone reading this message, I need your most honest opinions. I’m on the fence concerned with people complaining with excessive heat coming from the exhaust and blistering legs. Was this an issue on certain models, or on random rigs? Was this issue solved to those who experienced this issue? I’m barely getting into the sport, but unfortunately here in California where you can’t even fart anymore without getting in trouble with air contamination. Emission restrictions have kept Yamaha from selling some models, and I’m guessing it’s a matter of time before more will be banned. For any input on this matter, I thank you in advance.

  • @achoefs
    @achoefs 3 роки тому +2

    Family has a cf 600 touring. Great little machine. I run a 1000 outlander. I do like mine more but the cf has some good things. The power steering is great, a little too nice for me (I like to run my can am stiffer). Had some headlight condensation I think over all fit is nice. Handle bars are higher than my outlander and the Hondas we run but ride is nice. Certain features of the cfmoto are to be desirable but that's why you go sit on different brands. Low price point is a seller and I might pick one up but it all depends on the little things. I have things I'd change on it like low gear is weird and doesn't seem like you can go faster than 15 with it and a few of the ergonomics I'd change. Other than those, it's a cool bike and rides well

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +2

      Reminds me of a motorcycle when I sit on it. I’m sure you won’t go wrong you go with Honda or Can-Am either.

  • @markbuck9299
    @markbuck9299 Рік тому

    I see lots of them on my trails !! My friend is having trouble finding and getting parts for his from his dealership

  • @eddale5557
    @eddale5557 Рік тому +1

    I have a Cforce 1000 2023 model and have no issues at all and that peoples talk bad about it i can't care less lol i have a great fun with this and the trottle work fine no shit as i can tell i have had a Kymko, and a Yamaha Grizzly and none come near to this one it is easy to maintan and a very great atv if you ask me, have no complain at all! And the plastic cover is a know issue on ALL atv is is a hell but if you "learn" how to disamble it, it is not that hard so use your brain as i think most have so it is not a issue at all!
    And the KTM engine work as a dream too and the ATV cost about 5000 dollar less than CanAm too.

  • @gavinquist5727
    @gavinquist5727 Рік тому

    Low end torque is a real issue with these especially when snow plowing. You cant get enough go in low to move the snow with a straight blade.

  • @lithiumlounge6731
    @lithiumlounge6731 Місяць тому

    Coal country Pa here as well!! And am shopping right now for an Atv maybe we can meet up and go riding

  • @unclebuck5957
    @unclebuck5957 3 роки тому +3

    Which atv is made in the USA? Have to get a repair manual for your atv . Check the amount of cfmoto atvs that were sold at Two jacks I check all the time they have 60 in stock as of right now 5/2. I know people that have Polaris and can am all they do is repair them . This is why I went with the uforce 800 never would buy a polaris or can am

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      I agree Uncle Buck, nobody cares for your ATV better than you can. They certainly fly out the door at two jacks (they were the only dealer that had one in stock at the time we bought) yet I still have not seen one CFMOTO on the trails in my area.

  • @russ5234101
    @russ5234101 3 роки тому +2

    There is a CF Moto dealer in my town and they sell out as fast as they can get them

    • @patrickcurram9763
      @patrickcurram9763 2 роки тому

      It’s bc they are just as good as anything out there for what there actually worth lol who would of thought. They will take over they are dependable and they feel good.

  • @1175drh
    @1175drh 3 роки тому +1

    We have a 2015 Uforce 800 and have liked it. Great machine for the price!! Can buy 2 of them for the price of the big brands

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому

      For the 2up ATVs, I don't think any of the other brands have anything close in price to the 600 Touring.

  • @ironheadbiker
    @ironheadbiker 3 роки тому +4

    I love mine bro, but it does come with a kinda "you're on your own" feeling. I figured out the speedo calibration, it might concern your machine also, I'm not sure of what type of instrument display you have, but it's definitely good to know info

    • @cfmotoman1270
      @cfmotoman1270  3 роки тому +2

      Can't agree more. If enough of us buy just one, eventually they will start catching on and becoming more of an established, household brand. not just that, but CFMOTO needs to step up their online marketing game. The top 5 subscribed CF moto channels on UA-cam does not include CFMOTO themselves. They have like 2k followers. So sad :(

    • @Jimbeau88
      @Jimbeau88 3 роки тому

      We enjoy our machines... we are big time disappointed with support from dealer and CFMOTO.

  • @jackpeters9048
    @jackpeters9048 3 роки тому

    Just bought a 2021 cf 600...A definite bang for the buck...There's not one machine out there, that you couldn't find 4 things to list in the "reasons not to buy" catagorie.....I've owned all the major brands over the years, all good...But for the money, this is a definite bang....By the way, a big portion of everyone of the big name machines are made in" China"....CF is becoming a force to reckon with...Bought mine from our Triumph dealer and they sold a bunch of them...They are pretty bullish on the brand...Happy Trails..ps...If you didn't drop the F bomb so often, you wouldn't need the annoying beep....😊