Jesus Christ $210 is on the cheaper end for custom controllers? No hall effect? No mechanical buttons or dpad? Poor implementation of back buttons? And not even a year of warranty?! When Gamesir and 8bitd0 out hear making killer controllers for a fraction of the price I struggle to find a reason to find any relevancy for these custom controllers besides aesthetics.
What you gotta understand is hall effect only made a resurgence recently. Fully kitted custom controllers cost much more than this from other companies with the same set of features, so it is a good deal, it just isn't a good deal compared to any normal pro controller. Which I've always said about Custom controllers, they're by far the least efficient route but people still seem to dig them for their aesthetics HYPR is currently the only company making custom controllers that have hall sticks. Others are following soon, but they're the only ones for now. And they only made them available on the 21st! Custom controllers are slow to adapt, but they'll be much more recommendable in the near future
@vCuda i hope more custom controller companies continue to implement hall effect sticks. I'm just disappointed that custom controller companies prioritize aesthetics over practicality. I mean. It's not impossible to have a really cool looking controller AND have high-quality features that won't break after a few months that a $40 dollar gamesir controller has. The closest I could find is the Flydigi vader 3 pro. Has all the elite features with hall effect sticks from k-silver and is still under $100. But hey, I'm looking at this from a form follows function perspective, and to someone that really likes these admittedly cool looking controllers, it may be worth the asking price.
@@marzbee115 Things are moving that way thankfully! A lot of them have changed prices and plan to implement more useful features like hall sticks, but yes, they're more so for aesthetics and specific performance upgrades people want. If you go all out with the looks its insanely expensive most times Which is why pro controllers will almost ALWAYS be better in terms of value or price to performance. They're cheaper, usually have more features, and always have longer warranties that cover tic drift unlike the warranties most custom makers have.
Actually I bought a fully customized hex gaming controller for 190 with all the bells and whistles. No Hall effect sticks but all cosmetic customization is free and you only pay for adding adjustable triggers which lets you go back and forth from mouse click and full pull.
@@vCudaNaaaaa F that! Lol Why Would I pay $200+ for a controller to die 3-6 months later? That is the DUMBEST investment anybody can make, unless your rich or sell drugs. “Oh yeah look a very beautiful designed controller, w the A1 3000 chipset, swappable sticks, digital triggers, LED RGB, but it has stickdrift so now its just a wall ornament.” Imagine buying a ferrari, with all this safety features, 0-60 1.3 seconds, sexy rims, fresh custom paintjob BUT THE ENGINE NEEDS A REBUILD EVERY 7 MONTHS! and then here comes the manufacturer, the company and tells you F you, the engine is only warrantied for 6 months😂😂😂
@vCuda, if you hypothetically could design a controller yourself with your perfect back buttons/paddles, which existing controller design would you base it on. And what if you had complete freedom and could design your own shape, what would you do different then?
Thanks for the vid. I agree the plastics ExtremeRate uses for sticks and certain components are cheap as hell. However, if you want cheapest possible, their DIY mods and the Hex brand is the way to go. I sometimes prefer my DIY Extreme Rate Dualsense over my Dualsense Edge.
I also preferred my custom dualsense I built over my dualsense edge. Currently using an elite series 2 I picked up really cheap. If I knew how to solder I would definitely build a custom Xbox controller too.
ya it really is the way to go. I modified my PS5 with back buttons, clicky D pad and face buttons and it was so much cheaper than getting a custom one.
I do not recommend it. I bought one. Used it for 3ish months had go send it back on warranty. Then it broke again after 3 months and when i went to warranty them. They left me on read like their ex
@vCuda i love my hex ultra x. Those rear buttons fit perfectly under my middle fingers so I only need 1 finger to actuate either pair. Same as the Scuf instinct pro.
The fact that their warranty is 14 minutes in length is not a big enough issue in the reviews I see on UA-cam. Love the versatility of their devices, but jesus fuck, that warranty is something else
I bought the ultra x a while ago. The controler came with crunchy back buttons , and yes , i mean when i pressed on them it was like a crunch feeling and sound. About a month into it the stick drift was terrible , it was literally forcing me to look all over the place
Just get a Razer Wolverine V2 and thank me later. legit had that controller for near two years, just started getting stick drift, and its not even unbearable.
I bought a hex a couple years ago, it came with horrendous stick drift out of the box and the trigger stops broke after a year, never again will I buy one.
hi bro just wanted to tell you that a company named HYPR controller just anounnced hall effect thumb sticks for any controller you want you can take a look at it and make a video about it i like to know more about them
Can I ask whatever happened to Mad Catz and their micro controllers? I used to have one on the Xbox 360 but never saw them trying to make them again. Would love to see someone make a controller like that with four paddles trigger stops and clicky buttons. Good review as usual btw
Mad Catz went bankrupt years ago. I think someone acquried the rights and relaunched the company, but they operate on a much smaller scale now, I think they just make a couple gaming mice now.
I'm still holding onto hope that someone will come out with hall effect replacement sticks for Xbox elite controllers, much like Gulikit does for the Steam Deck. Is this not possible for some reason, which would explain why it hasn't happened yet?
it's possible, it is just beyond what the average person can do themselves. With the Steam Deck and the Switch Joycons, the analog sticks are on their own daughterboards, so if you want to replace them the user just needs to open up the device with a screw driver, disconnect a ribbon cable, connect the hall effect stick board, and screw it closed. With a Xbox or PS controller, the stick is soldered to the main board of the controller, so you have to desolder them, which is beyond many people's ability, and then you have to solder in the new ones and then calibrate them, which is the hardest part. The controller isn't designed for hall effect sticks so even calibrating them won't be perfect without additional circuitry. With the Steam Deck and Switch Joycon replacements, Gulikit is able to put that extra circuitry on the board the sticks come one, but on an xbox controller you don't have such a board. There is a YT Jun Zeng which is making a board that solders onto the bottom of the sticks, but it is tough to install.
Who pays $500 for a custom controller, let alone any controller that's not specialized like a steering wheel or flightstick? I guess if you have money to piss away.
Here I'm thinking about getting the PS5 DualSense Edge for my PC. It may not be practical for PC gaming, but I can swap out the thumb sticks. I'm thinking eventually PS5 games will make their way to Steam.
If you want to go the custom controller route, just buy the parts and do it yourself, it is all pretty easy to do. And If you do get one of these, please don't pay them $10 to remove rumble. At least on PC you can just disable the vibration, and if you actually want to completely remove them to save weight or somthing, it's just a couple screws and cutting a couple wires to get to them and take them out yourself.
I really don't get why they even changed the back button design, I built my own of the Advanced Controller and it's my favorite back button design I've used. I also don't get why clicky face buttons isn't an option on their customization when they sell the kit for it through extremerate, a bit confusing. I did recently upgrade my controller with the adjustable clicky triggers and I freaking love them, way better than their previous shitty trigger stops, and I did notice that they dropped their prices before so I priced it out, and it's pretty surprising how little they actually upcharge for building the controller for you. Of course, if you have the stock Series X controller that came with the Xbox and know how to solder building out your own controller with extremerate parts is then almost $100 cheaper, but complete scratch and no solder experience, Hex's prices surprised me. I am also really interested to try the pro controller Gulikit revealed recently, looks like they SERIOUSLY kitted out their KingKong 2 Pro controller, 4 back paddles/buttons, trigger stops that I think I saw they said went clicky, 1000HZ POLLING RATE WIRED, some new HD rumble motor tech they've been marketing recently, and the hall effect sticks I already loved on the Zen Pro. I'll be picking it up day 1 most likely but I'm still excited to see your review on it cuz you're funny as hell lol.
Does eXtremerate own Hex? They use all their parts. Would have been nice if they offered the clicky buttons kit as well. The real difference is that the instinct pro's rear buttons will crack at some point, but you get those really nice triggers and fit and finish is better on the scuf.
Honestly I’ve gotten so used to using all 4 back buttons and I map it to abxy so I never have to take my thumb off the thumb sticks and I’m only fine with the placement of extreme rate back buttons because I have smaller hands
Are you going to review the new HYPR controllers? They just released all new controllers for PS4, PS5 and XBOX with hall effect sensor joysticks. First company ive seen doing that that provides custom controller experiences. I can't see scuf doing that or anyone else.
They converted the joysticks of my ds4 from alps to hall effect. Honestly I'm very impressed, it's more accurate and more sensitive than regular alps. They only charged me about $25
vCuda have you tried the flydigi vader 3 pro ?. it is hall effect,4 back buttons, adjustable triggers, 6 face buttons and 500hz polling rate ? all for 60 dollars
Not sure if u know but battle beaver has fully customized(performance only) controllers for only 160 still a lot but most other company’s will have it up to 60$ more
Another cheap option exists, but it sadly isn't for everyone. There is the dark art of modifying the controllers yourself if you have the ability and the guts. I modified my own Xbox Series controller using ExtremeRate parts (Hex's parent company... in fact Extremerate have just released the Hex style back buttons + PCB + rear plate combo as a drop-in replacement for those who want to mix up their Hope kits.). My own xbox controller is longer recognisable, parts include: - Hope 2.0 remappable kit with 4 back buttons - adjustable clicky/full throw triggers - clicky abxy face buttons - new front shell with friction rings I believe it came in under £100 but the costs were also spread over time as I did the mods one by one about a year after getting the original controller (which was a seriously cheap stick-drifting Xbox Series controller that I repaired).
@@thewaffle003 nice! Sure hope to see some hall effect sticks that would be drop in replacements in the near future. I'll have to go through the hassle of temporarily undoing/desoldering my existing mods, but then I'd have to do the same thing for drifting sticks anyway. I know there's somebody currently working on an open source project for hall effect sticks that fit the standard form factor joysticks/pot assemblies with the the very purpose of being a direct swap.
@@naliboi93 That would be great, I'm definitely waiting on it. Still have to buy a desolder 'cause I want to try out the battle beaver higher tensioned individual stick modules.
@@thewaffle003 unless you're doing huge volumes of desoldering, you could probably do the desoldering job without an expensive desoldering gun. You'd need some half decent flux along with some copper desoldering braid, maybe also some leaded solder (and some steady hands).
@@naliboi93 Thanks for the suggestion! I looked into it, but I will probably be doing JUST enough desoldering to warrant getting a cheapo (~$50) desoldering station. I don't have flux anyway (I use rosin-core solder at this point, so I haven't needed it), so I'd have to buy that separately. I will ask, since you brought it up, is using a desolder braid/copper wire and flux particularly easy/not very finicky? If it's easier than a sucker I might run with flux and a braid anyway.
Ever heard of the Mobapad M9 Elite? Its a switch pro controller with a lot of features and works like an xbox controller on PC with a 2.4 gz dongle. Only costs $80 too.
Jesus Christ $210 is on the cheaper end for custom controllers? No hall effect? No mechanical buttons or dpad? Poor implementation of back buttons? And not even a year of warranty?! When Gamesir and 8bitd0 out hear making killer controllers for a fraction of the price I struggle to find a reason to find any relevancy for these custom controllers besides aesthetics.
What you gotta understand is hall effect only made a resurgence recently. Fully kitted custom controllers cost much more than this from other companies with the same set of features, so it is a good deal, it just isn't a good deal compared to any normal pro controller. Which I've always said about Custom controllers, they're by far the least efficient route but people still seem to dig them for their aesthetics
HYPR is currently the only company making custom controllers that have hall sticks. Others are following soon, but they're the only ones for now. And they only made them available on the 21st! Custom controllers are slow to adapt, but they'll be much more recommendable in the near future
@vCuda i hope more custom controller companies continue to implement hall effect sticks. I'm just disappointed that custom controller companies prioritize aesthetics over practicality. I mean. It's not impossible to have a really cool looking controller AND have high-quality features that won't break after a few months that a $40 dollar gamesir controller has. The closest I could find is the Flydigi vader 3 pro. Has all the elite features with hall effect sticks from k-silver and is still under $100. But hey, I'm looking at this from a form follows function perspective, and to someone that really likes these admittedly cool looking controllers, it may be worth the asking price.
@@marzbee115 Things are moving that way thankfully! A lot of them have changed prices and plan to implement more useful features like hall sticks, but yes, they're more so for aesthetics and specific performance upgrades people want. If you go all out with the looks its insanely expensive most times
Which is why pro controllers will almost ALWAYS be better in terms of value or price to performance. They're cheaper, usually have more features, and always have longer warranties that cover tic drift unlike the warranties most custom makers have.
Actually I bought a fully customized hex gaming controller for 190 with all the bells and whistles. No Hall effect sticks but all cosmetic customization is free and you only pay for adding adjustable triggers which lets you go back and forth from mouse click and full pull.
@@vCudaNaaaaa F that! Lol Why Would I pay $200+ for a controller to die 3-6 months later? That is the DUMBEST investment anybody can make, unless your rich or sell drugs.
“Oh yeah look a very beautiful designed controller, w the A1 3000 chipset, swappable sticks, digital triggers, LED RGB, but it has stickdrift so now its just a wall ornament.”
Imagine buying a ferrari, with all this safety features, 0-60 1.3 seconds, sexy rims, fresh custom paintjob BUT THE ENGINE NEEDS A REBUILD EVERY 7 MONTHS! and then here comes the manufacturer, the company and tells you F you, the engine is only warrantied for 6 months😂😂😂
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@vCuda, if you hypothetically could design a controller yourself with your perfect back buttons/paddles, which existing controller design would you base it on. And what if you had complete freedom and could design your own shape, what would you do different then?
Thanks for the vid. I agree the plastics ExtremeRate uses for sticks and certain components are cheap as hell. However, if you want cheapest possible, their DIY mods and the Hex brand is the way to go. I sometimes prefer my DIY Extreme Rate Dualsense over my Dualsense Edge.
I also preferred my custom dualsense I built over my dualsense edge. Currently using an elite series 2 I picked up really cheap. If I knew how to solder I would definitely build a custom Xbox controller too.
ya it really is the way to go. I modified my PS5 with back buttons, clicky D pad and face buttons and it was so much cheaper than getting a custom one.
People should stop buying controllers unless it has Hall effect. G7SE is way better than all these expensive controllers and it’s only $45.
I was looking for the funny clip at the end but "my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined"
Try snake byte hall effect controller i heard they have 5 years warranty
5 years is crazy
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Lmaoooo
I do not recommend it. I bought one. Used it for 3ish months had go send it back on warranty. Then it broke again after 3 months and when i went to warranty them. They left me on read like their ex
@vCuda i love my hex ultra x. Those rear buttons fit perfectly under my middle fingers so I only need 1 finger to actuate either pair. Same as the Scuf instinct pro.
I like recently got an elite controller the x button already mest up like got it about 3 months ago
Mine stick and the grip is off, but I bought mine a couple years ago and barely played the last 2 years
30 day battle beaver warranty with broken thumbstick on 31st day gang
The fact that their warranty is 14 minutes in length is not a big enough issue in the reviews I see on UA-cam. Love the versatility of their devices, but jesus fuck, that warranty is something else
Yo bro a couple years ago your review on the Razer Wolverine ultimate helped me make the decision to get it. God bless you brother Jesus loves you ❤✝️
Not spending my money on analog thumbsticks ever again. Sick of spending hundreds on something that will drift in less than a month
hypr was my go to til i learned to buildmy own controller for WAY CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video mane keep it up. I play on Xbox and I use a suff controller and I like the 4 buttons. It just takes time to get use to.
I bought the ultra x a while ago. The controler came with crunchy back buttons , and yes , i mean when i pressed on them it was like a crunch feeling and sound. About a month into it the stick drift was terrible , it was literally forcing me to look all over the place
Just get a Razer Wolverine V2 and thank me later. legit had that controller for near two years, just started getting stick drift, and its not even unbearable.
I bought a hex a couple years ago, it came with horrendous stick drift out of the box and the trigger stops broke after a year, never again will I buy one.
Love your reviews! Keep 'em coming!
hi bro just wanted to tell you that a company named HYPR controller just anounnced hall effect thumb sticks for any controller you want you can take a look at it and make a video about it i like to know more about them
THEY DON'T KNOW YOU SON
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Can I ask whatever happened to Mad Catz and their micro controllers? I used to have one on the Xbox 360 but never saw them trying to make them again. Would love to see someone make a controller like that with four paddles trigger stops and clicky buttons. Good review as usual btw
Mad Catz went bankrupt years ago. I think someone acquried the rights and relaunched the company, but they operate on a much smaller scale now, I think they just make a couple gaming mice now.
@@OmairArif that's some sad news I always like their controllers thanks for the update
Definitely not worth it when u can buy a elite cheaper. And you have to put batteries into the remote! No thx
I bought a hex with reprogrammable 4 back buttons. It sucks.
To sum up your review: "It's meh"
That's what I got out of it anyways.
My man you gotta make your own controller and shit on the whole system you amber heard me
BRO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ULTRA X AND ULTRA ONE I CANT FIND ANY INFO ON IT!!!
I'm still holding onto hope that someone will come out with hall effect replacement sticks for Xbox elite controllers, much like Gulikit does for the Steam Deck. Is this not possible for some reason, which would explain why it hasn't happened yet?
it's possible, it is just beyond what the average person can do themselves. With the Steam Deck and the Switch Joycons, the analog sticks are on their own daughterboards, so if you want to replace them the user just needs to open up the device with a screw driver, disconnect a ribbon cable, connect the hall effect stick board, and screw it closed. With a Xbox or PS controller, the stick is soldered to the main board of the controller, so you have to desolder them, which is beyond many people's ability, and then you have to solder in the new ones and then calibrate them, which is the hardest part. The controller isn't designed for hall effect sticks so even calibrating them won't be perfect without additional circuitry. With the Steam Deck and Switch Joycon replacements, Gulikit is able to put that extra circuitry on the board the sticks come one, but on an xbox controller you don't have such a board. There is a YT Jun Zeng which is making a board that solders onto the bottom of the sticks, but it is tough to install.
The user will definitely affect you’re accuracy
The mustache was gone looks better without ngl
I hate custom 'SCAM' controllers
Im happy with my game sir t4 for fitty bucks
Bro you should get dreads ngl🤞🏼
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Who pays $500 for a custom controller, let alone any controller that's not specialized like a steering wheel or flightstick?
I guess if you have money to piss away.
Pro/comp fps players? Lol
Here I'm thinking about getting the PS5 DualSense Edge for my PC. It may not be practical for PC gaming, but I can swap out the thumb sticks. I'm thinking eventually PS5 games will make their way to Steam.
If you want to go the custom controller route, just buy the parts and do it yourself, it is all pretty easy to do. And If you do get one of these, please don't pay them $10 to remove rumble. At least on PC you can just disable the vibration, and if you actually want to completely remove them to save weight or somthing, it's just a couple screws and cutting a couple wires to get to them and take them out yourself.
wheres your mustache
I really don't get why they even changed the back button design, I built my own of the Advanced Controller and it's my favorite back button design I've used. I also don't get why clicky face buttons isn't an option on their customization when they sell the kit for it through extremerate, a bit confusing. I did recently upgrade my controller with the adjustable clicky triggers and I freaking love them, way better than their previous shitty trigger stops, and I did notice that they dropped their prices before so I priced it out, and it's pretty surprising how little they actually upcharge for building the controller for you. Of course, if you have the stock Series X controller that came with the Xbox and know how to solder building out your own controller with extremerate parts is then almost $100 cheaper, but complete scratch and no solder experience, Hex's prices surprised me.
I am also really interested to try the pro controller Gulikit revealed recently, looks like they SERIOUSLY kitted out their KingKong 2 Pro controller, 4 back paddles/buttons, trigger stops that I think I saw they said went clicky, 1000HZ POLLING RATE WIRED, some new HD rumble motor tech they've been marketing recently, and the hall effect sticks I already loved on the Zen Pro. I'll be picking it up day 1 most likely but I'm still excited to see your review on it cuz you're funny as hell lol.
Those look cool but god damn imagine paying 200+ bucks for a pro controller... For only 6 short months of warranty
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Love your reviews, what would you recommend in the mid range around $100 for Xbox controllers?
Does eXtremerate own Hex? They use all their parts. Would have been nice if they offered the clicky buttons kit as well. The real difference is that the instinct pro's rear buttons will crack at some point, but you get those really nice triggers and fit and finish is better on the scuf.
Honestly I’ve gotten so used to using all 4 back buttons and I map it to abxy so I never have to take my thumb off the thumb sticks and I’m only fine with the placement of extreme rate back buttons because I have smaller hands
Hypr just released their Hall Effect sticks as an upgrade option.
Used to have the same faceplate, 1 month later the damn screw it came with messed up the plastic making thr faceplate useless
@vCuda can you review the victrix pro bfg?
Im still wanting for the two wireless controllers that are the best way to go for xbox
Are you going to review the new HYPR controllers? They just released all new controllers for PS4, PS5 and XBOX with hall effect sensor joysticks. First company ive seen doing that that provides custom controller experiences. I can't see scuf doing that or anyone else.
They converted the joysticks of my ds4 from alps to hall effect. Honestly I'm very impressed, it's more accurate and more sensitive than regular alps. They only charged me about $25
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i really like that is has carved face button icons
The AIM ps5 controller is alot more interesting
why cant they put in hall effect sensor inside?
vCuda have you tried the flydigi vader 3 pro ?. it is hall effect,4 back buttons, adjustable triggers, 6 face buttons and 500hz polling rate ? all for 60 dollars
I think he mentioned it in a vid so he definitely knows about it, but idk 🤷♂
can someone please just make an xbox controller with: good back paddles, trigger stops, and 1000hz polling rate? like what are we waiting for
Game sir g7 se?
Not sure if u know but battle beaver has fully customized(performance only) controllers for only 160 still a lot but most other company’s will have it up to 60$ more
If you want 4 back buttons and remap capability you're back up to over 200.
Cinch prices are actually dumb asf
Believe it or not, they used to be just as expensive with LESS features
@@vCudafunny marketing tho
I was here…
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Another cheap option exists, but it sadly isn't for everyone. There is the dark art of modifying the controllers yourself if you have the ability and the guts.
I modified my own Xbox Series controller using ExtremeRate parts (Hex's parent company... in fact Extremerate have just released the Hex style back buttons + PCB + rear plate combo as a drop-in replacement for those who want to mix up their Hope kits.).
My own xbox controller is longer recognisable, parts include:
- Hope 2.0 remappable kit with 4 back buttons
- adjustable clicky/full throw triggers
- clicky abxy face buttons
- new front shell with friction rings
I believe it came in under £100 but the costs were also spread over time as I did the mods one by one about a year after getting the original controller (which was a seriously cheap stick-drifting Xbox Series controller that I repaired).
Done similar. I hope gulikit releases hall effect Xbox sticks soon.
@@thewaffle003 nice!
Sure hope to see some hall effect sticks that would be drop in replacements in the near future. I'll have to go through the hassle of temporarily undoing/desoldering my existing mods, but then I'd have to do the same thing for drifting sticks anyway.
I know there's somebody currently working on an open source project for hall effect sticks that fit the standard form factor joysticks/pot assemblies with the the very purpose of being a direct swap.
@@naliboi93 That would be great, I'm definitely waiting on it. Still have to buy a desolder 'cause I want to try out the battle beaver higher tensioned individual stick modules.
@@thewaffle003 unless you're doing huge volumes of desoldering, you could probably do the desoldering job without an expensive desoldering gun.
You'd need some half decent flux along with some copper desoldering braid, maybe also some leaded solder (and some steady hands).
@@naliboi93 Thanks for the suggestion! I looked into it, but I will probably be doing JUST enough desoldering to warrant getting a cheapo (~$50) desoldering station. I don't have flux anyway (I use rosin-core solder at this point, so I haven't needed it), so I'd have to buy that separately. I will ask, since you brought it up, is using a desolder braid/copper wire and flux particularly easy/not very finicky? If it's easier than a sucker I might run with flux and a braid anyway.
Ever heard of the Mobapad M9 Elite? Its a switch pro controller with a lot of features and works like an xbox controller on PC with a 2.4 gz dongle. Only costs $80 too.