Dude, what can we do about this? I'm 18 years out from Iraq '03. I was forced to stand in squad formation, and eat the pill DAILY!!! I can't find it anywhere in my Medical Records, which isn't surprising because the medics didn't give it too us....our PL's did. I'm already at 100% with the VA, so filing a claim for Mefloquine Toxicity isn't going to get me shit. We also can't sue because its been longer than 5 years. I want to get a class action going to sue the fuck out of these people.
@@marcmarc4776 I feel your pain brother, and you’re right. If you’re 100% P&T don’t bother filing a claim. I fought that battle with the VA for years to no avail. I’m 100% P&T as well and they denied me Mefloquine Toxicity even on appeal. I’d let sleeping dogs lie and hope for a class action someday. I haven’t heard of one yet though. Anyways, you can get a lot of good info from a group called the Quinism Foundation, I’ll post the link. quinism.org
@@remembertheblacksabbath Well, that's what I want to do (class action). I'm not waiting for some ad to pop up on facebook to file something. This shit is getting worse by the day. The lawyer above left a message the other day, I'm going to see what he has to say.
Ditto, appears hard to prove to civilian doctors! My own symptoms followed an exact timeline worsening within a certain window resulting in a major symptomatic event. Discharged out of the military very quickly reason "severe depressive episode", been a hell of a struggle ever since. Sadly long term treatment appears non existant. Developed severe tinnitus civil doc sent me for a hearing test, no hearing loss detection but a more advanced auditory test detected issue potentially related to CNS brainstem lesions awaiting MRI for investigation, my own doc says it's a probable symptom of past neurological toxicity, still suffer also from major anxiety, sleep issues, digestive problems fatigue and weakness UK military have not to date acknowledged.
Took it 09-10 for almost 7 months. The big joke was mefloquin mondays and night terror tuesdays. Took it again in 11 for a month or so before they took it all and reissued doxy. I definitely still have dreams that i would directly associate with its use. Just the vividness is unmatched they dont fade like normal dreams they stay like memories of actual events.
I was forced to take it on all 3 deployments a month before and after, and we where told if we got sunburns we would be in trouble when this crap also made us sensitive to the sun exposure. I took all three of them.
This is interesting. We didn't take it on my 3 tours in Iraq and were in some heavy combat. Most guys came back pretty ok. They had some short term issues but most guys pulled up. We took it on my 2 tours to Afghan and the guys came back all jacked up despite very little or no combat. Correlation doesn't always equal causation but it would be worth looking into.
Everyone is conditioned to never ever disclose psychological problems because of the societal stigma and ignorance as well as the extremely high likelihood of irreversible permanent personal and professional repercussions of such a disclosure. This is especially true of Lariam poisoning victims because of the specific nature of some of the more serious symptoms. Everyone single GWOT Vet I know was coached on exactly what to say during the post deployment psych screenings to avoid getting jammed up and sent on a involuntary vacation to the funny pharm.
I took it in 04, it did cause me problems, but being new in a war zone I thought it was just that. But I have symptoms that are like MS or even Parkinson I have not been diagnosed with anything, but they have service connected a lot of different symptoms I'm at 90% but I can not work my eyes are even starting to get very bad. I also was at ft. McClellan for basic and AIT in 91
Hi Sean, I took Mefloquinne when I was deployed outside of Afghanistan , ended up getting sent home early couldnt figure out what was wrong with me, terrible trembling, unable to sleep, hallucinations was really horrible. Been on several antidepressants and mood stabilizers over the years, they actually do help, I actually wrote this Dr. Nevin an email trying to find someone to help me in 2012, was a very scary time. Anyway hope your doing better now. Grey
@@greyghost1962 that’s exactly what happened to me brother, I had a complete meltdown and was medivac’d to Germany where I was diagnosed with “PTSD” and sent home and eventually Medically Retired.
Could some of the veterans who have problems with PTSD be suffering from use of this drug? In Vietnam it was issued as Lariam. The doctor talks in this presentation about PTSD and Vietnam has he ever looked in use in Vietnam?
A lot of symptoms precisely mimic those of PTSD which is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Lariam poisoning is actual physical damage the brain itself especially the limbic system aka. the lizard brain structures. Standard SSRI drugs prescribed to PTSD sufferes can actually make a lariam poisoning patient much much worse and more suicidal or violent. Most doctors don't know or care about this and will drown you in SSRIs and Benzos just to dope you up and don't bother them anymore.
I’m one of those veterans experiencing the long lasting effects. 17 years now.
Dude, what can we do about this? I'm 18 years out from Iraq '03. I was forced to stand in squad formation, and eat the pill DAILY!!! I can't find it anywhere in my Medical Records, which isn't surprising because the medics didn't give it too us....our PL's did. I'm already at 100% with the VA, so filing a claim for Mefloquine Toxicity isn't going to get me shit. We also can't sue because its been longer than 5 years. I want to get a class action going to sue the fuck out of these people.
@@marcmarc4776 I feel your pain brother, and you’re right. If you’re 100% P&T don’t bother filing a claim. I fought that battle with the VA for years to no avail. I’m 100% P&T as well and they denied me Mefloquine Toxicity even on appeal. I’d let sleeping dogs lie and hope for a class action someday. I haven’t heard of one yet though. Anyways, you can get a lot of good info from a group called the Quinism Foundation, I’ll post the link.
quinism.org
@@remembertheblacksabbath Well, that's what I want to do (class action). I'm not waiting for some ad to pop up on facebook to file something. This shit is getting worse by the day. The lawyer above left a message the other day, I'm going to see what he has to say.
Ditto, appears hard to prove to civilian doctors! My own symptoms followed an exact timeline worsening within a certain window resulting in a major symptomatic event.
Discharged out of the military very quickly reason "severe depressive episode", been a hell of a struggle ever since.
Sadly long term treatment appears non existant.
Developed severe tinnitus civil doc sent me for a hearing test, no hearing loss detection but a more advanced auditory test detected issue potentially related to CNS brainstem lesions awaiting MRI for investigation, my own doc says it's a probable symptom of past neurological toxicity, still suffer also from major anxiety, sleep issues, digestive problems fatigue and weakness UK military have not to date acknowledged.
I took it during Operation Restore Hope 92/93. My mental social life has been ruined ever since I left Mogadishu..
Took it 09-10 for almost 7 months. The big joke was mefloquin mondays and night terror tuesdays. Took it again in 11 for a month or so before they took it all and reissued doxy. I definitely still have dreams that i would directly associate with its use. Just the vividness is unmatched they dont fade like normal dreams they stay like memories of actual events.
I was forced to take it on all 3 deployments a month before and after, and we where told if we got sunburns we would be in trouble when this crap also made us sensitive to the sun exposure. I took all three of them.
This is interesting. We didn't take it on my 3 tours in Iraq and were in some heavy combat. Most guys came back pretty ok. They had some short term issues but most guys pulled up. We took it on my 2 tours to Afghan and the guys came back all jacked up despite very little or no combat. Correlation doesn't always equal causation but it would be worth looking into.
Everyone is conditioned to never ever disclose psychological problems because of the societal stigma and ignorance as well as the extremely high likelihood of irreversible permanent personal and professional repercussions of such a disclosure. This is especially true of Lariam poisoning victims because of the specific nature of some of the more serious symptoms.
Everyone single GWOT Vet I know was coached on exactly what to say during the post deployment psych screenings to avoid getting jammed up and sent on a involuntary vacation to the funny pharm.
Mefloquine was just the tip of iceberg! The follow on years of antidepressants and benzodiazepines have wrecked me for good!
I took it in 04, it did cause me problems, but being new in a war zone I thought it was just that. But I have symptoms that are like MS or even Parkinson I have not been diagnosed with anything, but they have service connected a lot of different symptoms I'm at 90% but I can not work my eyes are even starting to get very bad. I also was at ft. McClellan for basic and AIT in 91
What do I do now.
Took it from Apr 03 to July 03. It is Jacobs ladder. The VA will give every excuse they can around it to ignor the shit out of you.
Yep, we had Mefloquine Monday’s!
Hi Sean, I took Mefloquinne when I was deployed outside of Afghanistan , ended up getting sent home early couldnt figure out what was wrong with me, terrible trembling, unable to sleep, hallucinations was really horrible. Been on several antidepressants and mood stabilizers over the years, they actually do help, I actually wrote this Dr. Nevin an email trying to find someone to help me in 2012, was a very scary time. Anyway hope your doing better now. Grey
@@greyghost1962 that’s exactly what happened to me brother, I had a complete meltdown and was medivac’d to Germany where I was diagnosed with “PTSD” and sent home and eventually Medically Retired.
It ruined my military career and marriage
I took this drug for and it's in my med record and I do have issues. Thanks for info
I dont remember what I did on my deployment and it's been over 25 years
@@usmcmarine3987 I can remember it too clearly.
I have G6 Def. As well also prescribed Dox everyday 100mg since 2003
I actually have Mefloquine listed in my VA medical records as being allergic to it and it causing extreme anxiety.
Could some of the veterans who have problems with PTSD be suffering from use of this drug? In Vietnam it was issued as Lariam. The doctor talks in this presentation about PTSD and Vietnam has he ever looked in use in Vietnam?
A lot of symptoms precisely mimic those of PTSD which is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Lariam poisoning is actual physical damage the brain itself especially the limbic system aka. the lizard brain structures. Standard SSRI drugs prescribed to PTSD sufferes can actually make a lariam poisoning patient much much worse and more suicidal or violent. Most doctors don't know or care about this and will drown you in SSRIs and Benzos just to dope you up and don't bother them anymore.
That drug ruined my life
I’m taking Mefloquine HCI once a week.
in 1994 i was deployed to somalia and im 90% sure we took this drug. I am 50% rated for PTSD how do i proceed with claim of this type?
I deployed with 10th Mtn we were ordered to take this, who did you serve with?
Me too brother me too
I was in Operation Restore Hope 92/93 and we were given that medicine. It's notated I'm medical records...JTF J4 engineers.
@Whitfield/Estrada @J4engineers
I was ordered to take it daily 2001-2004. It destroyed my life.
Same... from feb 03 to feb 04
What is the qualifications to get taken as a client
1989 Mombasa Kenya
Had it in 1988 Mombasa onboard the Chucky V. Had some crazy psychotic episodes, still messed up.
93 East Africa
I want to file for mefloquire lariam l have all the evidence in my military medical records and orders
Still suffering since 1993, actually certain problems are worsening with age!
I wish I could get to help that I deserve and never was able to! Contact me if you will and I'll try to explain.