Doom's DIABOLICAL Mastermind | Dr. Olivia Pierce | FULL Doom Lore EXPLAINED

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  • The Doom series has had so many villains and many of them have fallen to the same corruptive promises of the Dark Lords of Hell. Olivia Pierce and Malcolm Betruger followed a very similar storyline, and each of them became something new at the cost of thousands of innocent human lives.
    What led Olivia to work at the Argent Facility on Mars? Why did the Dark Lords target her? And what connection did she have to the legendary Spider Mastermind? In this video, I explore the lore and story behind Dr. Olivia Pierce in Doom.
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:08 Early Years
    06:02 The Corruption of Dr. Olivia Pierce
    12:27 The Fall of Dr. Olivia Pierce
    16:09 Legacy
    17:28 Closing Thoughts
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  • @Skyrionn
    @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +42

    Was Olivia a villain or just another victim?
    To push this in the algo, feel free to like, comment, share or any sort of interaction. The Dark Lords will reward you...

    • @Archon3960
      @Archon3960 6 місяців тому +6

      She was very much a villain. She didn't even try to resist the influence of Hell, disregarded any warnings and sacrificed so much just for her own benefit. At least, the Khan Makyr did what she had to safeguard her species. I can't deny she had it worse than Betruger though. :/

    • @SuperLumianaire
      @SuperLumianaire 6 місяців тому +3

      I feel no remorse or pity for the wicked no matter the origins.

    • @kazami5699
      @kazami5699 5 місяців тому

      I think Olivia is a victim who got tempted by the dark power

    • @slxxpyhollow
      @slxxpyhollow 5 місяців тому

      Please do a video on System Shock 🙏

    • @jamespike87
      @jamespike87 5 місяців тому

      😮and

  • @thebigbrodie
    @thebigbrodie 6 місяців тому +176

    I have no sympathy for Elivia. She had promised her cultists power and influence in hell but she knew they would get nothing but death. She had planned to sacrifice all of Earth for enernal life and to gain power and a place in the upper hierarchy of hell.
    She knew exactly what she was doing and who she was hurting for her selfish gain. She is a villain in my eyes with no redeeming qualities. Her story ended perfect as her brain turned into the grand canyon.

  • @Sharp931
    @Sharp931 6 місяців тому +204

    Maybe Olivia was under the influence of the artifacts, not just physically, but mentally too. Hayden was an idiot to not rotate the crew in the Lazarus lab. He enabled what he wanted to avoid in the first place.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +56

      Oh definitely under the influence of corruption. That's how the Dark Lord worked in general. Hayden could have absolutely done more.

    • @corvus8638
      @corvus8638 6 місяців тому +12

      A lot of it just seems like bad writing. Like why would the pain medication affect her ability to think but not the excruciating pain? Why did Hayden do nothing while Olivia was obviously being influenced by the artifacts when he had plenty of experience with hell? They just didn’t consider these things when writing it

    • @FleshWizard69420
      @FleshWizard69420 6 місяців тому

      ​@@corvus8638the pain was channeling demonic energy and her body was using it

    • @captaincaptain2128
      @captaincaptain2128 6 місяців тому +12

      ​@@kazcavYou must be new here. Doom has one of the richest and most complex stories in gaming history, and Doom Eternal is probably one of the most lore filled of the bunch. The only difference is that the lore is all buried in text as opposed to cutscenes and stuff. But these games have almost more lore than a lot of other games.

    • @captaincaptain2128
      @captaincaptain2128 6 місяців тому +17

      ​@@corvus8638Because Hayden wanted everything to happen. He's a Seraphim (an angel) who served the father (VEGA) and he knew the only way to defeat the dark lord was for hell to invade and the Doom Slayer awakened. He absolutely wanted all that to happen, that's why he did nothing. He knew what Olivia was doing, and he knew she'd do it before she did it. He wanted hell to invade. It was the only way to defeat the Khan Makyr and The Dark Lord. It wasn't bad writing at all, you just haven't got all the facts.

  • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
    @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 6 місяців тому +92

    That shot of the BFG into the mouth still is so cool. A deserving ending for someone who tried to sacrifice the whole world for her own gain. Olivia might have been manipulated but also was evil herself. I mean, if the demons of hell make an statue to honor you...

    • @EN-mh4og
      @EN-mh4og 6 місяців тому +6

      If demons make statue's of you they either love or fear you.

    • @destroyerarmor2846
      @destroyerarmor2846 2 місяці тому +2

      If demons in hell makes statues of you, then you are a billionaire on earth 🏃

  • @mprojekt72
    @mprojekt72 6 місяців тому +42

    Samur Makyr bears some responsibility for Olivia Pearce's fall but she used her free will to make some very questionable choices at first, and later her decisions became quite deranged and evil.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +6

      Oh 100% He could have done so much more.

  • @johnquach8821
    @johnquach8821 6 місяців тому +28

    Nice to see more DOOM videos. Maybe a "Demon Biology" for specific types of demons?

    • @Exar_Kun
      @Exar_Kun 6 місяців тому +7

      Roanoke gaming has ya covered! He does biology videos on tons of games and movies.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +9

      There's more DOOM to come. Biology isn't my kinda thing but as the other comment stated, Roanoke Gaming is pretty good at them.

    • @Exar_Kun
      @Exar_Kun 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Skyrionn you’re my favorite lore channel!

  • @Daniel_TheGreg
    @Daniel_TheGreg 6 місяців тому +15

    Just finished Doom eternal and ancients gods 1 and 2, and its freaking amazing !!! Nice content bro, love your vids!

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for watching. Eternal was my favourite of the series too!

    • @Daniel_TheGreg
      @Daniel_TheGreg 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Skyrionn Indeed, it is the best doom so far.

  • @DiegoRodriguez-li4op
    @DiegoRodriguez-li4op 6 місяців тому +9

    I love your video, man. They bring me joy every day when I am looking for some good lore.
    There's are two things that I wanted to add:
    •In Doom Eternal codex surrounded Deag Ranak, it is said that the hell priest had some contact with Olivia Pierce, and she probably took some part on the invasion of Earth aswell.
    • Her legacy doesn't only end with her statue in Nekravol. In the codex of the Archnotron, it stated that they were created with the dna in the body of the original Spidermastermind. You could see the similarities in design and attacks.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for watching them.
      Looking back, I agree that I should have included that in the video. When I wrote it, I wanted to keep the video on Olivia and not bring up Argent D'Nur, the Hell Priests and why they wanted to take down Earth. It is something I have gone into in depth in a future video.

  • @dxfan18
    @dxfan18 6 місяців тому +21

    I never noticed the statue of Olivia, I was probably too focused on not being torn up by demons though.
    I've said this before, but the sudden transformation into the Spider Mastermind never made sense, but I think that if time worked differently in Hell, mere seconds for us could have been years of agony for her as her body and cybernetics were twisted into what she became.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +9

      Absolutely. The Hell Priests had gathered so much power at this point too.

  • @cameronrhodes1101
    @cameronrhodes1101 5 місяців тому +6

    Yeah, to be honest, Hayden definitely did not see the bigger picture after all, he's been to that realm he should know the influence that certain objects from Hell would have on the minds of people he really should have kept what he found there locked up and observed from a safe distance there probably wasn't even a need for UP close and personal research not to mention when it comes to certain type of people that can be easily influenced it's people like Olivia workaholics who work over around-the-clock who already probably don't have the best mental state to begin with not to mention her chronic pains as well without a much healthy body, the mind would quickly deteriorate leaving you much more open to susceptible influence.

  • @auronx
    @auronx 5 місяців тому +2

    Lore videos of the same caliber as VaatiVidya; another excellent video Skyrionn!
    Thank you for your efforts and time.

  • @JB-mb6lm
    @JB-mb6lm 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent analysis. I subbed. Thanks for making videos like this so I can watch at 2a.m. on a Friday night lol

  • @yigakong1187
    @yigakong1187 5 місяців тому +4

    Doom 4 is a revival of classic Doom’s style and Doom 3’s story

  • @mattzillaification
    @mattzillaification 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi, I absolutely love your videos, I think they may be the best doom lore videos on UA-cam. I was wondering could you do a lore video about Argent Energy, or maybe about Hell itself like its history and hierarchy, perhaps even one on humanity’s history. Can’t wait to see your next vid.

  • @austinbradley8551
    @austinbradley8551 6 місяців тому +9

    Interestingly i was wondering where a video about Olivia was, also she to me at least felt a bit similar to the Khan makyr

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +2

      She is very similar to the Khan Maykr and Betruger.

  • @Fourtune1
    @Fourtune1 6 місяців тому +13

    Love the doom lore. Not sure why people WANT a boring story that’s just killing.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +8

      I'm all for a huge story. Got to love some deep lore

    • @Ohimeshinso
      @Ohimeshinso 12 днів тому

      Because they don't want to be a detective or do homework, probably. They just want to run, gun, and tear demons apart en masse. They don't need much justification to do it, as long as it's fun.
      Which makes perfect sense to me. I think DOOM 2016 honestly did a perfect compromise but Eternal shoved too much down some people's throats, and they don't like it.

  • @WarriorVirtue
    @WarriorVirtue 6 місяців тому +12

    I have actually wondered if Malcom Betruger might be the Wretch spoken of in The Slayer Testament. It was established in 2016/Eternal that a Doom Multiverse with many different versions of Earth exists but they all share the same Hell. So is it possible that sometime after being trapped in Hell following the events of Doom 3, Betruger encountered the Doom Slayer and forged a suit of armor for him using both his expertise from his former life as a scientist and the knowledge he had gained about the power of Hell? As for why he would help the Slayer, it's possible the Betruger we encounter in Doom 3 wasn't Betruger at all but something that had possessed his body given how according to his colleagues, he basically became a different person after traveling to Hell. So maybe the real Betruger had been trapped in Hell ever since waiting for a chance to get revenge.

    • @user-ew7vj3hw9m
      @user-ew7vj3hw9m 6 місяців тому +7

      He dies in ROE a expansion pack for Doom 3

    • @WarriorVirtue
      @WarriorVirtue 6 місяців тому

      @@user-ew7vj3hw9m His body is destroyed. We don't know where his soul is.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +5

      I doubt it but it is an interesting thought. I like the idea that all of the Earth's share the same Hell.

    • @danielmccormack7390
      @danielmccormack7390 5 місяців тому

      ​@@user-ew7vj3hw9mthat is soooooo true all that is left of him is his skull

  • @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7
    @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7 6 місяців тому +6

    Glad to see you doing the content you clearly want to do and not just doing videos for the sake of the algorithm. I never even knew Doom had such deep lore until stumbling on your channel

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +1

      I appreciate that.
      Doom is something that either hits well or misses massively. I'm just hoping a timeline I have in the works does okay.

    • @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7
      @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7 6 місяців тому

      I hope it does too. In any case talk about a loyal fan base we love your stuff

    • @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7
      @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7 6 місяців тому

      I hope it does too. In any case talk about a loyal fan base we love your stuff

  • @DJUH4
    @DJUH4 4 місяці тому

    Love your doom content ! its so exciting everytiem you publish a new one !

  • @blackcyan1252
    @blackcyan1252 6 місяців тому +3

    I was just thinking about this channel and then this video popped up, perfect =)

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +1

      Perfect timing. Thanks for checking in.

  • @Tetrohedracon
    @Tetrohedracon 6 місяців тому +9

    I find it very hard to believe that Samur Mykr has absolutely no clue what she was up to considering just how massive the Cultist operation was not just on Mars, but Earth as well. The resources required to create such massive complex bases would of had to come to the attention of Samur. It also seems like Samur did very little to actually stop Olivia. He could have killed her the minute he suspected something was wrong with her, but he didn't. Why? Was this part of the plan?

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +2

      I agree to be honest. He could have done so much more. I'm still unsure on why he chose not to act.

    • @acash93
      @acash93 3 місяці тому

      The dark lord probably manipulated Samur Maykr by implanting thoughts in him. This was why Samur Maykr thought of reversing orientation of the Divinity Machine to grant the doom slayer the Dark Lord's power.
      So even though the Father told Samur Maykr to head to Earth, he may have been also under the influence of the Dark Lord to allow certain humans to conduct research of demonic artifacts.

    • @FBI-ju5no
      @FBI-ju5no Місяць тому

      Kinda sounds like the game makers retconned the original story they had, and decided to make Hayden, into a Makyr.

  • @MatthewBester
    @MatthewBester 6 місяців тому +2

    13:59 I still have no idea what she wanted that bicycle pump for.

  • @rschana100
    @rschana100 3 місяці тому

    You really seem to break down the game lore quite well. Man I wanna play Doom again.

  • @aaronarmstrong406
    @aaronarmstrong406 5 місяців тому

    Love your content. Keep it up :)

  • @randomintrovertedspider7510
    @randomintrovertedspider7510 6 місяців тому +3

    There's a line out there - the path to hell is paved with the best intentions... in this case, literally. She ended up too obsessed over something, and in the end, became a Benedict Arnold. The Demons of Hell made a statue of her, after all.
    Also, I remember my first time in that boss fight - I wasn't... very accurate with my guns yet (Still new to FPSs), and ended up using up all the ammo for all my guns, meaning that for the majority of that fight, I had to kill the spider with a pistol.

    • @rotosz9749
      @rotosz9749 2 місяці тому +1

      it's sort of impresive in a way, to kill that with a pistol i mean

  • @VanAugerify
    @VanAugerify 6 місяців тому +2

    Right as I get home from work First vid I see from Skyrionn. niiice

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      Hope you enjoyed it!

  • @kuddlykraken2157
    @kuddlykraken2157 6 місяців тому +2

    It's so weird how I was thinking "I wonder if there's a lore video on Olivia Pierce?" when I was at work.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +1

      Perfect timing.

  • @asifalrahman2340
    @asifalrahman2340 5 місяців тому

    This video deserves more views.

  • @radioskull7831
    @radioskull7831 6 місяців тому +4

    I love these Doom lore vids

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching them :D

    • @radioskull7831
      @radioskull7831 6 місяців тому

      @@Skyrionn no problem :D

  • @natecolbert7782
    @natecolbert7782 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks again

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @tylerherr4288
    @tylerherr4288 6 місяців тому +15

    she is also a great example that you should always accept medical help if you need it
    pain can screw you up just as much as a drug addiction can

  • @thesmilingman7576
    @thesmilingman7576 5 місяців тому +2

    3:55 didn't they already have a settlement on Mars and Phobos (we don't talk about Deimos)

  • @SM1777Y
    @SM1777Y 5 місяців тому +3

    Please do some system shock lore!!!

  • @user-hv8qt6ew7m
    @user-hv8qt6ew7m 2 місяці тому

    It also is cool that DNA from her demonic form was extracted and used to create arachnotrons as a sort of demonic legacy

  • @dr.devoxxiedev2768
    @dr.devoxxiedev2768 6 місяців тому +2

    I finished doom several months back that boss was hard af bruh but it was a great fight.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +2

      Yes it was. Got to love the Spider Mastermind.

  • @thanhtrong1190
    @thanhtrong1190 6 місяців тому +2

    With several starts, but just one end - face Doom slayer

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +1

      The ultimate destroyer.

  • @RetiredMemeLord
    @RetiredMemeLord 6 місяців тому +6

    Pizza and Soda diet aka the Gamers Diet.
    moral of the Story: never make deals with Demons.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely. So many villains fell to The Doom Slayer after they made pacts.

  • @JabamiLain
    @JabamiLain 5 місяців тому

    Skyrion, sorry for the out of the blue question, but do you know if there is no version of "Fable" available to PS3, 4 or 5 ?
    I accept answers from other people too.

  • @AmericanUnionState1824
    @AmericanUnionState1824 Місяць тому

    You know the old saying, the road to Hell is paid with good intentions.

  • @thesmilingman7576
    @thesmilingman7576 5 місяців тому +2

    10:59 didn't they already have flamethrowers and aren't there other demons called Revenants that look similar to those

  • @adamthompson626
    @adamthompson626 5 місяців тому +2

    Doom 2016 was best doom. You cant change my mind.

    • @DONG-502
      @DONG-502 5 місяців тому

      To anyone who wants to respond to this guy, ignore him he is just seeking attention

    • @adamthompson626
      @adamthompson626 5 місяців тому +2

      @DONG-624 I dont understand your comment. I enjoyed the doom 2016 reboot the most. I enjoyed the cinematic feel (great executions and no super flashy distracting pickups). I enjoyed the mystery and story more than doom eternal's. Doom eternal turned into a sort of "every room is a multiwave arena" feel, and if I was not high on caffeen and well rested, there was no way I could clear a checkpoint in eternal. I enjoyed the multiplayer and community created maps. I hate the Praetor suit being sleeveless.... in space.... or burning hell. Doom 1 and 2 were great, doom 3 was a mixed bag, doom eternal turned into a super repeatative room clearing game especially in the dlcs that I had to just stop playing, but doom 2016 hit the mark for me.

  • @captainboreale7632
    @captainboreale7632 5 місяців тому +1

    Such a tragic end for her. She wants to be part of a vital scientific project for Earth, but she ends up being a manipulated, twisted creature faced with a horrific result. Doom's story has always been exciting, just as the fast-paced, bloody gameplay.

  • @michaelcoulter1725
    @michaelcoulter1725 6 місяців тому +1

    That dude said 2095 well I won't be around to see it I'll be dead LOL

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +1

      I think we're all lucky

  • @DerKaiserMann
    @DerKaiserMann 3 місяці тому

    I feel like she is Doomguy’s arch enemy. She is the basically the anti version of him and became the Spider Mastermind (which is The main antagonist of Doom 93)

  • @MarkaNgamer
    @MarkaNgamer 4 місяці тому

    One caviat - There does not need to be good intentions for demons to corrupt. Lots of humans have bad intentions to start with, they only need to be escalated over extremes.

  • @shariqhasan6220
    @shariqhasan6220 4 місяці тому

    I think Hayden was focused on the development of Argent Energy project, which is why he probably gave Olivia a free-hand.
    However, Samur Makyr did notice Olivia's cult activities which is why he brought back the Doom Slayer. The Slayer was his contingency plan in the event things go wrong.

  • @TheFluffyWendigo
    @TheFluffyWendigo 5 місяців тому +1

    Trust me, some deals aren't worth the price you pay.

  • @stanislavroubal997
    @stanislavroubal997 5 місяців тому +2

    Olivia looks likes Caroline from wolfenstein

  • @W.H.138
    @W.H.138 6 місяців тому +5

    Sympathy for the villain? Nah I'll pass.

  • @gagaplex
    @gagaplex 6 місяців тому +5

    While her fate was ironic, it was also completely to be expected. Why do so many treacherous villains expect never to themselves become the victims of treachery?

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +6

      It was pretty fitting. I believe she deserved her fate. She sacrificed the lives of the whole facility for personal greed.

  • @jakevelasco4072
    @jakevelasco4072 4 місяці тому

    I think Olivia Pierce, when compared to Dr.Malcom from Doom 3, was kinda sloppy went it came to hiding her ultimate scheme. Her religious background kinda gave away to Samual that she wasn’t handling the UAC science team resources right, hence why the android went to find Doomguy.
    With that said I think her codex entries are interesting evil considering the perspective of a recruited scientist or staff member. She tells people that the science they do is their new faith (mixing religion with science, red flag already) telling them that the Titans realm is a honorable place to sacrifice yourself to uncaring titans, and also the fact that Revenants and Cyber Mancubi production was supervised by her (opposing to the UAC’s goal of simple energy extraction). It would also be worth mentioning that final farewell letter/codex we get on the level were we fight the Spider Mastermind, which I won’t read because it’s pretty long, but suffice to say that calling it a middle finger to humanity is a bit of an understatement.

  • @thesmilingman7576
    @thesmilingman7576 5 місяців тому +2

    Wonder who will be used to resurrect the Mother Demon

    • @DONG-502
      @DONG-502 4 місяці тому

      Khan Maykr I think

    • @whiterabbit3050
      @whiterabbit3050 3 місяці тому

      @@DONG-502blud she is dead💀💀💀

    • @DONG-502
      @DONG-502 3 місяці тому

      @@whiterabbit3050 thats the point some demonic shit will revive her

  • @knapples5526
    @knapples5526 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video but dont let this distract you from the fact that Mr. Krabs sold SpongeBobs soul for 62 cents.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +2

      I can't believe I forgot to put that in there. We must always remember.

  • @richarddunn9286
    @richarddunn9286 2 місяці тому

    Doom's 2016 environmental story telling is top tear. It's a shame they didn't prioritize it more.

  • @spidos1000
    @spidos1000 5 місяців тому

    Are you from North Wales?

  • @slimeinabox
    @slimeinabox 5 місяців тому

    The fact the olivia is a gamer (or depressed) is hilarious

  • @ShadyHero
    @ShadyHero 4 місяці тому

    4:08 w reference

  • @reactworld2975
    @reactworld2975 6 місяців тому +3

    Fun fact: "betruger" is German for "traitor"

  • @acash93
    @acash93 3 місяці тому

    Samuel hayden is not a mysterious person. He was the Samur maykr following the instructions of The Father.

  • @JuanWonOne
    @JuanWonOne 6 місяців тому +2

    Beep boop. More algo food

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      The best food

  • @DONG-502
    @DONG-502 6 місяців тому +3

    Is me or Doom 2016 and Enternal have elements of Doom 3

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse 6 місяців тому +6

      The UAC Aesthetic is definitely from Doom 3

    • @LORDZILLA_2002
      @LORDZILLA_2002 6 місяців тому +1

      @@GallowayJesse prime example being the plasma rifle, it's almost the exact same overall design with a white paint job.

  • @fichtellukas5572
    @fichtellukas5572 5 місяців тому +1

    Cool story, is this spoken in a certain US accent? Sounds slightly British

  • @animationunlimited2958
    @animationunlimited2958 4 місяці тому

    The way to hell is pawed with good intentions.

  • @phantomhurricane666
    @phantomhurricane666 2 місяці тому

    when will people learn: don't go dicking about with strange objects! and if you find one, LEAVE IT THERE! it was hidden for a reason.

  • @javidaderson
    @javidaderson 5 місяців тому +1

    What do you say about the road to hell?

    • @RedCommunistDragon
      @RedCommunistDragon 5 місяців тому +1

      “The road to Hell is paved by good intentions.”

  • @JovanMuncanovic
    @JovanMuncanovic 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, I am 04:03 / 04:12 :)

  • @mediokay
    @mediokay 5 місяців тому

    The demons do a little trolling as they say

  • @counterfeitsaint7479
    @counterfeitsaint7479 5 місяців тому

    I think there's a big part of the story that a lot of people miss, because DOOM was going for a show don't tell kind of story (sometimes).
    Both Sam Hayden and Olivia Pierce were the two people that spent the most time interacting with hell and artifacts from hell. Is it a coincidence they both got terminal illnesses? What I think happened was the demons gave Hayden brain cancer first and offered him a cure and power in exchange for his help. Because Hayden is such a badass he told them to pound sand, and built his own robot body instead. So then they tried the same tactic with Olivia, but this time it worked. That's why Hayden isn't at all surprised that Olivia betrayed humanity, he's simply "disappointed she wasn't stronger". He knew they would make that kind of offer because they made it with him. At the very least it's a fun theory.
    (I'm ignoring later stuff from Doom: Eternal because I think the Eternal lore is a convoluted step backwards, and more importantly because I don't think they had thought of any of it when writing DOOM 2016)

    • @Bowiiihowdy
      @Bowiiihowdy 5 місяців тому

      Hardens brain cancer is either faked or had something to do with his Makyr biology not quite gelling well with his human body. The faking part might be the fact he need to put certain parts of his brain in a robot so he could enter hell to find the slayer

    • @DONG-502
      @DONG-502 5 місяців тому

      To anyone who wants to respond to this guy, ignore him he is just seeking attention

    • @arcangle7444
      @arcangle7444 4 місяці тому

      ​@@DONG-502may be not. Doom eternal story was a bit convoluted indeed.

  • @drjqool
    @drjqool 5 місяців тому

    It has been said a lot of Olivias cannot survive a BFG in the mouth.

  • @waxensafe2470
    @waxensafe2470 4 місяці тому

    I really wishes they made the doom guy ripped & tear the dr

  • @texasallstar6969
    @texasallstar6969 5 місяців тому

    So can she come back ? I mean they built a statue of her in hell.

  • @8ullfrog
    @8ullfrog 4 місяці тому

    Pierce created the doot lords?

  • @uav5594
    @uav5594 6 місяців тому +1

    Why did triage at dawn play lol

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      It's my favourite soundtrack and it just works for closing thoughts

  • @vrona8649
    @vrona8649 6 місяців тому +2

    5 min gang

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      Welcome welcome.

  • @colemclean1676
    @colemclean1676 5 місяців тому

    I was hoping white crow would finish his doom movie But I think he dipped out.
    P.S. if you know you know.

  • @morpheus_uat
    @morpheus_uat 6 місяців тому +4

    Olivia was not herself the moment she got 'possessed' by the demons. Before she created the cult, whatever was controlling or influencing her was not Olivia herself; it was some demon pulling the puppet's strings. She was the puppet, or something along those lines. She was the victim until she became a demon-like and created that cult and the rest. She is the victim of demonic possession, and the rest are not her doings. I blame Samuel Hayden for not keeping an eye on her.
    i bet this wont fit in the story, im just rambling, after all she is dead, so thats that
    love your videos, cheers!

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse 6 місяців тому +1

      Olivia hose to accept a deal with demons & she knew exactly what she was doing including tricking all the people under her.

    • @DONG-502
      @DONG-502 5 місяців тому

      I guess this Demon that possed her was Spider Mastermind

    • @morpheus_uat
      @morpheus_uat 5 місяців тому

      @@DONG-502 cool

  • @jellydamgood
    @jellydamgood 6 місяців тому +8

    Dude. We aren't talking about some vulnerable naive little girl tricked by the devil here.
    Olivia is supposedly one of the smartest humans alive with the very best education, she has access to near unlimited resources, material or otherwise. She's an elite living at the very tippy top of the 1%.
    There's no possibility in hell she doesn't know what it means to deal with the devil. No, she deserves only condemnation.

  • @grenouillesupreme
    @grenouillesupreme 6 місяців тому

    So the spider mastermind is just another enemy ?

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      An ancient powerful enemy.

    • @Bowiiihowdy
      @Bowiiihowdy 5 місяців тому

      I thought the mastermind was the voice speaking to Olivia thru the game. It possessed her and used her body to become the Spider Mastermind

  • @michaelcoulter1725
    @michaelcoulter1725 6 місяців тому +1

    I can't stand Olivia Pierce she got on my damn nerves in that game

  • @MVegetto1
    @MVegetto1 3 місяці тому

    I kinda wish they kept doom guy blazkowicz a silent protagonist

  • @mandroid-rb4uy
    @mandroid-rb4uy 6 місяців тому

    hello Skyrrion Olivia Pierce is such a tragic Villain undone by her Intelligence and good intentions..But when One dine with the Devil one needs a long spoon

  • @oaktree149
    @oaktree149 4 місяці тому

    I don’t know why tf people believe demons when they promise some vague shit like eternal life or power. They’re mf demons, what did you think was going to happen????

  • @ryelor123
    @ryelor123 6 місяців тому

    This looks nothing like Doom. You couldn't play this on an IBM PC.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      I guess technology moved on. The classic graphics are still peak.

  • @ghos7bear
    @ghos7bear 5 місяців тому

    Doom 2016 plot feels like science fiction with a taste of a fantasy. Doom Eternal feels like a fantasy game with sci-fi background, very disappointing.

    • @DONG-502
      @DONG-502 5 місяців тому

      To anyone who wants to respond to this guy, ignore him he is just seeking attention

    • @ghos7bear
      @ghos7bear 5 місяців тому

      @@DONG-502 Thanks for attention

  • @jamesthelamenter5464
    @jamesthelamenter5464 6 місяців тому +5

    Women ☕️ 😂

  • @skoldmo762
    @skoldmo762 6 місяців тому

    Cringe. Puts adverts with "skip this advert button" but they keep playing when presssd 🤮

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому

      Sounds like an issue with your browser tbh

  • @lancejobs
    @lancejobs 6 місяців тому +2

    Had to graft the thing to her, not like slip into a powered armor of some kind. Don't play with hell essence folks!

  • @Exar_Kun
    @Exar_Kun 6 місяців тому

    4:03. Do I still win if I’ve already been subscribed?!?!? 🥹

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  6 місяців тому +1

      yes. first place