I always liked the idea of simply carrying out the job you were hired to do for Mr. House and being rewarded and told you exceeded expectations as an employee. The courier doesn’t trouble themselves with politics, they were hired to do a job, did it well and that’s that.
you probably reminded the teacher about homework and work unpaid overtime at gamespot because you think it'll net you a managerial position. please explain how this is "staying out of politics"
cd0 cd0 You’re wrong. I work unpaid overtime for fun, not for a reward. I also didn’t remind the teacher to give out the homework, I created my own homework and turned it in for no reason.
“We don’t need to feel special… because we already are.” “If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the window.” Mr House has a 10 in charisma.
With Speech about democracy Mr House completely got my loyalty Man saved Vegas from 69 nuclear warheads restored the city, forced his own terms upon a whole economically and military advanced country
@@timberm4n379if you really think about it Mr. House and Caesar’s philosophies weren’t that different. They both wanted societies governed by one higher power with absolute authority. How they brought about that society were different but I assume if Caesar had the resources house did he would’ve come up with a similar solution.
@@Kwiwiwiwi you are wrong here. Caesar wanted a society without any kind of technologies . In the game if you ask settlers of Caesar camp they will tell you that any kind of drugs( logical) and whats important STIMPACKS are forbidden. Caesar doesnt want developed society cause he thinks technologies will lead to another nuclear war. He despises technologies. Thats why he wont allow stimpacks and other stuff. Ironically Caesar needs a surgical procedure using highly developed surgery machine. Thats why Caesar's policy is hypocritical and dumb. mr.House on the other hand, he aspires for technologies. HE thinks that humanity should embrace development of technologies not for the sake of development, but for humanity itself. mr.House embraces innovation, technologies. Yes. they are both "dictators" but what distinguishes House from Caesar is that House isnt Mad, selfish, Narcissist, Dumb sole ruler. Quite the opposite. IS mrHouse mad? no. Is he selfish? if he was selfish he wouldnt have saved entire City, Is he narcissist? OH YES. But it doesnt. Is Mr. House dumb? of course not
@@Kwiwiwiwithe difference is Caesar wants to control everything in his military state, whereas House just wants to control the important stuff so he can make it as good as possible.
As the other commenter said, you actually are, I have mods (i don't know which one does it) that fucks up the end slides so I can see below and above where the slides are and it's a red carpeted room with basic walls, most likely a room fashioned after the Tops.
Using 100 Barter on Oliver with House is the best ending; you form a House-NCR alliance that is beneficial for both factions. I would not hesitate to defend the idea that that ending is honestly even better for the NCR than their own ending. The NCR is no longer overstretched and House's Securitrons are much better built to guard carvan routes in the boiling desert than flesh and bone NCR troopers. The ending also involves promising the NCR a free hand in conquering the Legion's territory. In that ending the NCR millitary and Securitrons army join forces. The NCR avoids being overstretched. Hoover Dam runs more effectively than ever with House's technical experience overseeing it during the ending slides. Lastly, it is the only ending directly taking the fight to the Legion straight away. The Legion and the NCR will never attack the Mojave again, and the combined Sercuriton army-NCR millitary would be able to handle the predicted Tunneler migration from the Divide to the Mojave that Ulysses predicts. No other ending allows for that security.
Truly one of my favorite things about the House ending is just how powerful the Securitrons are. One MK. II Securitron could easily best at least 5 NCR Troopers at once, assuming they're all armed with mere service rifles. Any Legionary caught without a firearm would be decimated, same goes for raiders. I'm not too sure how powerful power armor is in lore, but I'm fairly certain it couldn't withstand 4-6 direct missiles/rockets from a Securitron, even so power armor seems to be a rare sight in the Mojave, especially now that the BoS is no longer around in the House ending, the nearest chapter being far away and all other forms of PA in the area are just stripped of their servos. Planes and vertibirds would struggle against the Securitrons anti air tactics, and vehicles would suffer against Securitron missiles as well. The only thing that I see posing a threat to Securitrons are tanks, artillery, and long range snipers/rocketeers. Of course the Mojave doesn't have infinite resources, House could make hundreds of Securitrons but keeping a steady supply of rockets and ammunition for every single unit could prove a challenge in times of war.
@@generaltobias3777 Yeah, and unlike Yes Man, they're in control of a man who really understands them, considering he created them. House has been planning for his big play for 200 years, he understands how best to utalise the Securitron army.
@@Reiman33 oh boy here the argument comes. The main criticism with the NCR is while they have the most appealing option on paper, in practice they can't even send 10 troopers to kill giant ants on the road so what makes you think they are going to be able to secure a town? They only start to become a option that can actually protect their citizens and later the Mojave when the player puts in a entire playthroughs worth of babysitting to solve all their problems. Without the courier, the monorail blows up so they can't reinforce the dam as well, they don't stop the assassination of their president, they don't get cement from quary junction to reinforce the dam, they can't adequately feed their troopers at McCarren, forelone hope goes even deeper into the gutter as troops don't get supplies, chief Hanlon commits suicide so they lose the only smart millitary strategist that knows how to fix problems besides throwing troopers at it, information keeps getting leaked to the legion so they keep losing troopers to hit squads, the fiends keep pillaging the Mojave, any ncr in fireside gets killed during hoover dam, the embassy gets blown up, trade stops moving because they can't secure roads, they don't make a deal with the boomers, the brotherhood doesn't get dealth with, the kahns are still a problem, and countless other problems. They are only a faction that can actually back up the claims of protecting everyone once the courier comes along and solves all their problems. Meanwhile the legion, house, and yes man can actually work antimony without the help of the courier. The legion destroys ncr settlements, gets help from the omertas, extends a invitation to the kahns and figures out where the brotherhood is on their own. House figured out where the brother hood is, is actively looking into the omertas, has already figured out the legion is going to assassinate the president and is making moves to try and counteract it. House is also the only faction that demonstrates any idea of what to do AFTER hoover dam gets secured. Every faction wants it for water/power but just keeps going imperial mode after while house plans to use it to remake factories and make a economy to make better bots and go to space to make colonies. House and the legion are the only factions that demonstrate any capacity to secure the mojave/the residents there in any successful capacity, meanwhile all of the ncrs territories in the Mojave are plagued with problems waiting for someone to come fix them because they literally cannot do it themselves. If you don't do a ncr playtrhough, what good is the protection/governing style they plan to offer when they can't even protect their territories in the first place? Even with the brutality of the legion and house's expansion most people will get protection meanwhile the ncr is still stuck trying to kill 10 ants on the side of the road bottling up their main trade route. With house/yes man you arguably get more autonomy over yourself than the NCR anyway. Yes the ncr seem the most appealing but most people would rather live under the legion/house if it meant they got a stable food supply, didn't have to deal with raiders, and could actually protect them instead of just annexing their town by force, making them pay taxes to protect them, then not even following through. That's why most of the Mojave doesn't wanna join the ncr
It's a testament to the quality of the games writing that even the bad guys of the game (Legion) have enough good qualities that you can appreciate why someone might prefer them to the "Good guys" (NCR). For all it's cruelty and barbarism, the Legion is at least competent enough to actually take steps to solve their own problems The NCR is almost cartoonishly rife with nepotism, bureaucratic bloat, and general incompetence, but at least they have benevolent intentions I really really really wish that Obsidian had been given enough time to really finish the game like they wanted. I don't think any of the existing factions would have been quite as they are today if the Devs had the time to polish the game.
@@Valcerv The only benefit in the game the NCR has is the trader for ammunition that is their only benefit otherwise you are a 100% right it's a babysitting gig
I think the best way to convince Oliver to leave is the science checks where you can tell him that they can give the NCR power and water if they pay and he agrees
Having the might of House's Securitrons to alleviate their burden in the Mojave with them being so dangerously stretched thin is more than worth the payments.
I dunno. While I do like the idea of House winning, I also know the implications . I feel like Yes-man is the true ending, because it wouldn't completely shatter the balance of power in the wasteland.
Because he who owns the dam owns vegas, and he who owns Vegas has immense power. Enough power to completely shift a power struggle into one's favor. Nobody getting it, knowing Black Isle, is probably the Canon ending if I had to guess.
@@texo456 Could be, idk. I've never personally liked the idea of the courier owning Vegas cause i feel like it's kind of lazy writing and most people go through mental hoops to make it make sense. But Yes-Man is 100% a traitor. Dude is mad sketchy. So maybe that could be the canon ending, him locking the courier out of their own city and going rogue like the Calculator and his robots from Fallout Tactics.
@Uncle Phil I honestly never really got that from the ending. I more got from all of the endings that he helped one of the factions, then kept wandering, cause that's what a courier does
@Uncle Phil and since yes man is the only one who has no intent to use the power for greater means, it would make sense. The legion could also work, since the destroy the dam and shut down new Vegas, but that would also go against their model of Canon endings with the evil guy never winning
The Mr. House ending is how Fallout becomes Starfield, it isn't about keeping some sort of balance between factions or returning to a pre-war America, it's about moving forward...
@@blueeyeswhitemoron4488probably because it was developed by obsidian and it also has this kind of thing where Massive companies do crazy expirements and shit which mostly results in disasters
Except, it was technology that put them in that position anyway. And I don't like the idea of some 200 year old rich guy being able to do whatever he wants.
I do love whenever i do the worst possible ending, the game is explaining the hell i imposed on the wasteland and apparently the courier is just taking sips from his canteen while he watches
Nah it’s more so a reference to the Italian dictator Mussolini during WW2. It’s essentially alluding to the fact that house will be a cruel and cold dictator (as suggested by what happens to the “joy” in Vegas as everyone is stuck moving about in a specific manner and if not they get their asses stomped by the securitrons.
@@thepapakeeganshow6440 Or house just saw the monorail as a profit opportunity and the fact that he’s a perfectionist makes it so the trains not running on time does genuinely bug him
It’s a fascist allusion to Mussolini. House doesn’t see the role of government as just a regulatory one, but of complete control of commerce via a totalitarian regime that even controls the most minute part of people’s lives. That’s the implication of the ending when it says that it feels cold. In effect, it house has created a system to run he trains on time by controlling even the most minute aspects of people’s lives. The best comical rendition of this that I’ve seen is the joke in the Barbie movie when Barbie complains that she’s been called a fascist but she doesn’t control the trains.
@@jrodri14ii THANK YOU FOR AGREEING! I'm not really sure how people can justify it as "oh House just likes trains" when it's one of the most famous quotes of the first ever fascist dictator LOL.
@@thepapakeeganshow6440while I do understand where you and the other guy are coming from i believe it needs to be said that if you do a high karma ending the courier actually ensures Mr house doesn’t abuse his power and become a true dictator. I also believe that Mr house was speaking the truth when he said he has no intention to directly control the lives of people. My take on Mr House is this: to him efficiency is the most important aspect. You’re allowed to do what you want and live like you want as long as you don’t cause problems and do your job. Mr house is focused on the big picture and the future of humanity as a whole meanwhile the courier with high karma is focused on the more immediate future and keeps things as stable as they can. As for what happens when the courier is dead, that’s a good question. However if house has the technology to preserve himself it wouldn’t be a huge leap to assume he could preserve the courier so the courier can keep things stable while house continues working towards the big picture. Between the courier keeping things stable and House being the only one with an actual long term goal and the power,resources,capital,knowledge and drive to give humanity a brighter future I fully believe a high karma house ending is the best.
It's so nice to see everyone discuss this game's story because it's an rpg with a rich set of choices that have dynamic consequences. New Vegas is a reminder of why I love rpgs and talking about them
Mr. House is based on Howard Hughes, fyi. Very interesting life. He was an aviator, film producer, inventor, and millionaire. He lived in Vegas as a recluse due to a very painful disease which kept him at home all day, but he also bought a bunch of land including casinos and the wiki says he "transformed Las Vegas into a more refined cosmopolitan city"
My dad actually did some work for him many years ago in Florida. He built a hanger for him where he was keeping what he claimed were experimental and untested engines for projects he was developing. My dad always said he was a weird man to do work for. He had a very tight inner circle and he would only talk to them. If you were doing work for him you had to speak with a middle man in order to get any communication done. Apparently Howard Hughes didn't like talking to people directly and was apparently a germaphobe.
@jamesnaldplayzyt7323 yeah, it's never mentioned in any literature about him but my dad swore that's how he was and my dad has done alot of work for a lot of rich people. One person he did tile work for was the guy that Made denim Jean fabric. You would never have guessed it by how the guy carried himself but he was super humble and nice to my dad I was told.
“I can make sure it not only runs, but runs on time. Always bothered me, the imprecision.” Howard Hughes? My brother in Christ, you need a history lesson. 😅
They already cast Robert House for the flashback scene in the first season, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they decided to take the Independent ending, but have House still be alive and disconnected from the Lucky 38 systems.
@@Validifyed *SPOILER FOR FALLOUT SHOW SEASON FINALE( watch it btw it’s really, really good!) I actually think Hank is gonna visit House for help of some kind and that’s why he went to New Vegas at the end.
@@vingasoline5068 If Hank tries to meet with house, and House is still in control, he will be *pissed* at Hank/Vault-Tec. Shady Sands was an important group of people, some of New Vegas's best customers, and Hank blew them up.
Still to this day can't get over how ass that dude was at voice acting. His delivery as Oliver broke the hell out of my immersion every time. Even with the npcs he voiced.
Realistically it would be the canon ending. Both sides don’t get destroyed and that puts up potential to bring back the NCR and Legion in future titles. Also the Courier would most likely want to help House after House saved their life. Ironically enough House’s ending could actually lead to Obsidian’s recent series “The Outer Worlds” considering it perfectly describes what House wanted to achieve for humanity.
Killing him (and/or Kimball), as pointed out by House, would be mercy, and potentially make him into a martyr or hero (both of which he isn't nor deserves) for the hyper-corrupt, greedy military and politicians to use and rally with against you. Nah, leaving him alive for the other grifting, power-hungry politicians and military rank-climber bloodsuckers like him to ravage and conveniently put all of the blame on so to save their skins is a much worse, satisfying and convenient (for you) fate than death.
@@andryuu_2000In my eyes Yes Man is kinda a cop out. Like I feel the only reason he was put in the game is so the player can still “beat it” if they mess up all the other factions.
My first and only run of New Vegas, I slaughtered the legion after seeing the “lottery”, then spent the entire game getting harassed by legion scouts as I helped the most competent man in the Mohave reach for the stars. Mostly ignored the NCR with their mundane goals, petty problems, and corruption. After watching a fair bit of YT content about the other endings, I can only say this about my own playthrough: No regrets.
@@Azzazpimp what do you mean? You really think I say that for any other reason besides actually believing in what I said? I reckon in my country at least 30% of people would agree with me, so im not edgy by definition.
Truly. 18 mf-ing months. Lightning in a bottle. I almost hate it cause it set a unreachable bar i judge everything by. Its story/lore is absurd in how sharp it is.
I always wondered why it is people consider Raul's vaquero ending to be the better one. To me, it feels more fitting for him to leave his past behind to pursue a different passion.
New Vegas fans will NEVER, EVER have any form of media literacy, as least the modern fans unironically posting “wojaks” and using the terms “Based” and “Redpill”😂
@@Ph34rth3hhum4n4t0r that's a tough one. Never really thought about that 😁. I think being a vigilante Vaquero is honorable, it would've made his little sister proud. But being a mechanic would eventually bring peace to the ghoulish uncle Danny Trejo 😁
The question is more about WHO will remaster it? FNV is not a perfect game, and if someone remaster it they will most likely impart their own biases and change a few things that cause big changes down the line. The Legion was given a bad hand because most of their content was cut from the game. You get a very NCR biased view because of it. What if a remaster changes the game so that House and Yes-Man are not given any redeeming factors?
@@Cloud_Seekerironically some may claim lack of Legion content gave more opportunity for mixed interpretations if Obsidian had intended to bash them more
To be fair, it was with the help of Robert House that most of new vegas got mostly untouched by nukes. So he earned the rights to watch over it since he protected it.
I don't think that's entirely fair. The way I see it, there were potentially thousands of people who were employed by House, whether at Robco or in the post-war world, who made him the man he was and allowed to save the Mojave twice over. Without the support of all those others, Vegas would've been destroyed, and so they, living in and propping up the city through their labour, ought to have a say too.
It's one of those selling your soul kind of deals. His path certainly is progress, but it's a poisoned chalice, and it will be irrevocably chained to the whims of a tyrant who will never relinquish that power. No matter what, Mr House does what's best for Mr House. Chunks of humanity just happen to benefit from that as well. The biggest thing with House is that, in cannon, he actually is what he says he is, which rarely holds out in the real world. I remember hearing over multiple times since the game released, how it would be like if Elon Musk controlled the government. But as pretty much everyone has come to learn, the real life supergenius who can save us all is pretty much always a fantasy. Lies peddled by snake oil salesmen, and that real progress is more often than not borne out by mutual collaboration. but, in a hypothetical, where someone actually does have that unique greatness, would be interesting to see.
This game came out 13yrs ago and I just played it and I was definitely impressed. Didn't think it would have been as good as fallout 3 boy was I wrong!!!.
Same here. I started with Fallout when it first came out. Then got Fallout 2. My nephew gave me Fallout Tactics, which I quickly got bored with. Then I saw the release of Fallout 3 and wanted it, but couldn't afford it. Many years later, I bought Fallout 4 when it went on sale and LOVE that game (over 4200 hours played and still going). Then not long ago Fallout 3 was on sale, including all DLC and I bought it. It looks pretty dated, but it was fun to play. Most recently, Fallout New Vegas was on sale and I bought it. It was also very dated, but a lot of fun.
I'd even go as far as saying Fallout New Vegas is even better than Fallout 3. And this is coming from someone who started Fallout New Vegas with a very, very big bias to Fallout 3 as it was the first RPG I took seriously and explored very deeply.
@@brianyousef5764 That's cool. But I disagree. FO3 and FONV combined play time is a very small fraction of the hours I've played FO4. But that's what keeps the world interesting; different people like different things in different ways. Collectively, the entire Fallout franchise has been very entertaining! I'm also looking forward to the new Fallout series and the launch of Fallout London (a huge mod).
For the most part, this is probably the best possible House ending...with one exception in my opinion. I think Meyers is more qualified to serve as sheriff of Primm than Primm Slim.
I expect this will be the cannon storyline that the Fallout series adopts moving forward. I Played through New Vegas 3 times and never sided with House. This seems better than I expected.
Nope, I always have to remind myself to go there and kill everyone before ending a playthrough, otherwise I'll get that fucking slide of them still terrorizing the Mojave
@@bitterman7258 9 times out of 10 my rep with the Powder Gangers is so low they attack on sight anyway, not to mention I just can't be bothered to save a bunch of jackasses that probably deserve the death penalty on some shitty back and forth quest where half of it is just the loading screens. That and I usually play as a bounty hunter/Desert Ranger character, if they're not surrendering, they're not living.
House ending is the best outcome by far. When you rebuild a civilization some strong arming is absolutely needed and House is the perfect guy for the job. Only after humans get back at least to modern standard of living there can be other things. Also I still can't get over the fact Fo4's factions&leaders are so much worse.
TBH, none of the factions could properly run the Commonwealth, the Minutemen are a disorganized mess, The Brotherhood are too weird, The Institute waste their time on Synths, and The Railroad dgaf about The Commonwealth outside of Deacon
@addi543 the way I see it, the "best" option for the Commonwealth would be for the SS-ran institute and the minutemen to ally. Creating teleportation stations across the Commonwealth, allowing for the minutemen to literally come at a minutes notice. All the while the institute rebuilds the commonwealth.
Most common complaints i've seen of house tend to boil down to "but what about democracy 😢" as if democratic processes aren't the reason for the NCR being as crippled as they are in the mojave.
Usually people complain about how he's a dictator, and ignore everything else he says. "Doesn't matter if he's trying to fix the wasteland, he's a dictator so he must be bad." Democracies are great but the wasteland isn't ready for them.
@@generaltobias3777 House is also utterly unique in his vision can work. He isnt tempted by anything he doesnt comprimise he doesnt fear enemies he doesnt seek revenge he cant be bought he doesnt grow old and become senile needing to be replaced by someone less capable. This can literally only work with him
If House wins, the NCR is still around. It's not like democracy stops working (the fact that Hanlon can win a senate seat is proof enough). For a reasonable price, the NCR can still access Hoover Dam and its resources provided they maintain good terms with the House's nation state.
@@davidhong1934 Ive always thought thaat taking the Mojave would justify being expansionist yet there isnt another Hoov er Dam to justofy that expansion in the cards so they would continue to overextend without an ancient wornder of the word waiting in the next region
Democratic processes have absolutely nothing to do with the NCR being how it is. The distinctly _undemocratic_ oligarchic control of wealthy brahmin barons is what shapes the NCR. It's basically America 2.0. Neither of those is anywhere close to being democratic.
Literally the perfect game. Haven't played any RPG that comes even close to this. Just great storytelling, fun engaging gameplay, and your choices matter. 2007-2012 was the peak era for gaming. All we have is trash for games now.
Try playing fallout 1 2 vampire bloodlines the masquerade and deus ex all are really old hard as shit and require a pc but they're some of the best games ever made
theres a game out there called disco elysium not your traditional RPG, most of the gameplay comes through talking to people, but it's probably one of the best games i've ever played. damn good RPG. I'd recommend going into it as blind as you can, cause even shit like knowing the name of the character you play as can be a spoiler. i'd give it a shot if you are lookin' for great RPGs, but the game isn't for everybody. i'd probably get it on a storefront you can refund it on
This is probably the canon ending for vegas if there isn’t a closer alternative to the possibilities with the TV show unless Bethesda just went and did their own shitty lore all of a sudden
I think there is a near perfect ending. It's a matter of opinion of course but I do believe that there is a relative perfect ending that would be considered the most optimal outcome.
Ever since the first time I played the house run I realized that this was the perfect ending. Then when you look at the cut content as a result of the independent ending which used to be the ending that I liked, free side and the strip ended up in riots in a large amount of people killed with the independent ending
@@RLWBass ok well it isnt canon and was cut so canonically it didnt happen. there were no riots in freeside or the strip. it does not make sense for there to have been riots in freeside or the strip, the residents of both have an incredible amount to gain from being relieved of the NCR and House, even with the likely temporary increased strain on the followers of the apocalypse theres no reason whatsoever for a riot
@@shameful3604 House is the reason the families on the strip don’t kill each other, and that is 100% cannon. There’s an immense power void, people are going to fight to fill it. The omertas I’m sure would be 100 percent peaceful, same with the cannibals, right? People in freeside kill each other every day. Your take is trash, I’m sorry
@@shameful3604 What do you think happens when all of the major players are removed from an area, and you, the new self-imposed ruler, for as much fame you may have gained in your playthrough, still don't have enough popularity to be recognized and accepted as such, to hold the reins of power of an huge and powerful "horse" that Vegas and surroundings are? That's right, anarchy. Power vacuum. A free-for-all. Granted, if you do keep the Securitron army, it is mentioned that a short while after, after the dust settles, you do manage to bring back order by using the robots as your enforcers. But between the likely massive damage and loss of life resulting from the temporary anarchy, and you basically forcing yourself onto the throne with raw brute force and fear, it likely isn't something that will be accepted hands down without some occasional riots, protests and such (not to mention the lasseiz-fair attitude implied by the endings, possibly meaning that either no rule of law is enforced, or just the bare minimum). So yeah, it is absolutely canon, actually, check the endings. Both explicitly mention anarchy and riots ensuing. Only difference being, that with the robot army you do manage to eventually suppress (for the short term at least) the anarchy and riots, and if you don't have it, then true, total, 24/7 anarchy ensues. And don't expect the Followers to help much on keeping the peace, since with the Independent ending, they are mentioned to be completely overwhelmed and barely able to keep providing their services due to how many people there are from the influx of refugees.
NCR cringest ending, they NEED your help because they didn't realize how tough it'd be to take over a state on top of BoS destroying gold reserves, making their cash practically useless. House is the best ending in this fucked wasteland.
@@elpsykoongro5379 I mean... The purpose behind every ending is aligned to each peoples ideals. Literally every faction has good points and bad points. We can't agree on a "good" ending because their isn't any. But for me personally, I would still pick NCR for all its flaws, incompetency, and corruption. And considering I ain't even american.
@@PauaP I think the NCR started off as certified "good guys" and have good intentions but with their growing rate of imperialism and expansionism and brahmin baron corruption and influence i think its even better for them if they lose the hoover dam to Mr House and kimball and oliver end up becoming completely disgraced and so there can be a shift in politics which hopefully results in a more inward focus for them to improve themselves
After playing fallout dust, I feel like Mr house is the best option now. I liked the idea of taking new Vegas for the courier but I feel like Vegas would peak there. And just stay as is. Mr house genuinely could send humans into space and if he can restore Vegas to what it's original Spirit is, he can certainly restore America. But he can only do so if he has the courier. Any other version of house is destined to fail simply by the fact that the NCR and Legion are simply to crafty and there numbers too great.
What makes you think sending humans to space is something that needs to occur for an ideal society and what makes u think house would accomplish anything different than what the NCR would (whether or not you establish a trade deal with the NCR so they don't eradicate you with sanctions Vegas is still eventually integrated into the NCR either way) Dust isn't cannon it's an insanely cynical work where the dev constructed a lore around worst scenario they could think of & how they thought that scenario would play out (which iirc was the independent Vegas ending where both the securitron bunker and the dam were destroyed) so I rlly don't see how it should effect anyone's opinion of anything
@@rexjolles The burden of proof is on you. House says "I'm a genius", this is your proof, the character whose run involves constant babysitting to prevent absolutely everyone he trusts from betraying him and provoking tribes into randomly harming unarmed civilians to prove "loyalty", whose the best outcome relies entirely on a courier running around and forming trade deals with the NCR on his behalf. The guy who lies in a big chamber with a series of big red buttons reading "EJECT" "KILL" "REMOVE ME FROM POWER", about 10 yards 3 securitrons and 2 unlocked terminals away from where he allows the courier to stand. There is nowhere in the game where house says he has a lot of resources or power, especially compared to the NCR, so I have no idea what proof you could possibly have of that
I never liked House, but i can totally see why many people choose him over other ending. The idea of a "mega-pragmatist" ruling the Mojave that sees the people who rules only as far as they are useful to him send shiver down my spine.
Im really sad and lost all morale to play this game because i looted every item all the junk items had literally every item in the game and had the perfect ending i did every quest and lost it all by accidentally deleting my save so yeah but this video gave me some morale to try it all again.
Mr House is not equal to the rest of the wasteland, he’s a 200 year old genius that’s possibly immortal and dead-set on human development, that qualifies him to be an autocrat in my eyes, if he had the same lifespan as everyone else id say democracy is in order.
I usually find myself siding with House. He's already running things decently, the NCR is floundering and the Legion are savage tyrannists. I don't want to take over and have to run things with equipment I barely understand. House gets stuff done.
Yeah, why would they introduce him as a character in season 1 if he isn't going to be in the second season. I am 100% convinced this is cannon. But New Vegas actually looks like it is damaged and in ruins in the second season so another conflict in New Vegas might have happened ever since the ending of New Vegas.
@@omerthegoattSecuritrons is no Match for Deathclaws and Tunnelers. The Credit show there are damaged NCR Vertibird, Fortifications, And Bunch of death Deathclaws. I guess the New Vegas is Attacked by Massive horde of Deathclaws and Tunnelers.
House might actually be the best option after completing every factions run… NCR is tied up in beurocracy, legion will kill itself once it reaches California, and yes man’s ending leaves a lot to be desired. House would manage the strip and do exactly what he said he’d do, might actually lead humanity forward.
That was basically my first run. Despite IRL despising everything to do with libertarian ideology and their proponents, or reverselly, 'autocrats' in general, in-game, House really had me hooked and 'sold his fish' for me to continue on his works. He seemed to have the most clear vision of what to do and how to accomplish it. Didn't trusted benny and his favorite toy to do the job (specially since also the other factions were extremelly chaotic), and NCR also didn't had it's shit together, causing as many troubles as they tried to fix, and the legion... well, they're the legion, good for target practice in hard mode once you get tired of killing fiends.
The biggest problem with House is that any system built on one point of failure will feel it very hard when it does happen, and he's not quite so smart as he thinks he is. And never mind the ideology or anything--House *is* smart, but it's still fairly insultingly easy to go kill him if you decide to take that path. He shouldn't even let you in the front door of the Lucky 38 at all until you've proven quite loyal, but barring that, letting you into the area that can access his life support at any time before the actual battle? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
@shell2791 bro, he never said he was converted to your half-right version of libertarianism, he just said Mr. House had the best option, like genuinely, how can you play Fallout and be right wing? (Nvm, media literacy isn't your thing, you prefer to burn books rather then read them)
@@oblivioneagle3464 I think he lives on most of the endings. He just loses control of Vegas and you can choose to kill him or not, but he stays plugged in.
It's a bad ending that one, similar to the Kings, House gets pissy for them siding with NCR, and so starts governing them really hard and rains down a ton of taxes upon them as punishment, instead of leaving them be.
@@scpfoundation2040 It's not. That will only cause Primm people to be pissy and hostile at House, and House will barely gain any money from it, his being a simple "containment measure" and "punishment" to prevent NCR from potentially using its acquired influence to stir shit up with Primm. Hence why preventing such a thing from ever happening in the first place is the best outcome for both Primm and House. Primm gets to mind its own business, House has one less thing to worry about and one less containment measure to apply that will make him more disliked.
If you think about it as well House’s ending benefits from a geo political sense as well. Seeing as how if he’s out of the picture the NCR or the legion can gain power unchecked compared to him in power acting as a third actor in the southwest keeping the legion and NCR in check
He's my favorite simply because he has an army that doesn't need to eat, sleep, or fear disease Not to mention each unit acts as a sentry to every other instantly and wirelessly transmitting intelligence and reconnaissance data that each unit discovers
I do wonder what was the appeal to my younger self about the independent ending; If we think about it, Mr House has New Vegas at his interest at heart, he truly does care about it's microcosm, and the courier well, it's a courier bound to no one who will probably it the road again. Ensuring people's freedom is a fine idea, but having a plan like Mr House does to back it up is even better, even if he had to be coarse to get there.
@@Baked259 These are the same people that: - strap bomb collars on "guests" - slaughter outsiders suspected of knowing BoS secrets - steal from caravans if nobody is breathing down their neck
"I can make sure the monorail not only runs, but runs on time" is such a great line. In the final dialogue when you achieve the best possible version of your ending, the game reminds you that you just installed an autocratic dictator that can't be defeated by any means. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, but phrasing that line in a way that likens him to Mussolini is such nice piece of subtle writing.
eh, the only group house actually wants exterminated is the BoS, which themselves are more than a little fascistic. For others, it's live and let live. He seems to be the only one thinking ahead (space colonization), while all the other factions are oriented towards survival.
Worst case scenario, Courier can bust into his chamber and off him, if anything happens. But yeah, he is a self-admitted authocrat, only without most of the "mortal", possible ways he could end up corrupted, and when you kill him or disrupt his plans he does sound genuinely caring and convinced of his claims. And between him, lasseiz-faire anarchy, hyper-corrupt NCR and Legion, he's the best choice you can afford. Yeah, dictatorship isn't nice, nor ruling coldly with a steel fist, but it is efficient and effective, which is what the wasteland direly needs, seeing everyone else either cares for themselves only, or try to go at it either in highly inefficient or extremely misguided ways (see the Followers) or in intentionally, completely wrong and malicious ways. Plus, heck, we are talking about a post-apocalyptic wasteland world full of factions either warring for control or wanting to live in their own little static or regressive bubbles, you can't expect sunshine and rainbows, as evident from the NCR (who tried to be a democracy, and see what happened, became an hyper-corrupt oligarchy actively harming its own people and serving the rich and powerful). Democracy is unfortunately a luxury that cannot be afforded in that situation, as first it'd require the majority of the population having to be able to survive and make it through a single day first, and then for them to be focused towards goals beyond the simple day-to-day survival, with zero net gain on reconstruction and betterment.
@@Flutok agreed. house doesnt do this for selfish reasons, he does it because he thinks its his duty to the people of vegas. honestly siding with house is the best option besides independent.
@@secretagentcathouse is a hyper capitalist who set his sights on vegas because it’s a money making machine for him, in which he’s planning to spend it on gathering enough resources to leave the planet behind. he’s not as cruel as other dictators, but if you want to look at his morality, look at the state of freeside. every person is a means to an end for him, all the factions act selfishly in this way.
I hope this ones canon like yeah its cool taking over vegas for urself and using houses anti aging chamber to become an ai god with yes man and live for a million years but I probably wont make rockets that could colonize other planets
But you could care for the people of Freeside in a way House would never think to. With all his wealth and power, I get the impression House would leave many of his own people to bootstrap into eternity, especially NCR citizens.
@@jimmyjohnson1870 This. People forget that House is, genius aside, still everything that's wrong with billionaires. Remember the insane number of caps he spent arranging the platinum chip's complicated delivery scheme? Imagine if he'd just spent a tiny _fraction_ of that in his wealth and resources to ensure that the people of Freeside had plentiful water, shelter and food and that the Followers of the Apocalypse were well-supported. But he would never do that, then or after his ending, because House doesn't give a shit about the common people. He's an elite who cares only about other elites and people who are directly useful to him. He talks a good game about wanting to advance the "future of humanity," but when House speaks of that future, he's not actually expressing any concern for most people. Only select people in his new "big club" that "you ain't in" (though the Courier may be) will get to share in and enjoy that "great future." You want to know what a future under House looks like? Look around. The game never comes right out and tells you, but the clues are all there if you go looking for them. Look at Freeside, then look at the Strip, and look at how House brutally segregated it from the "dirty poors." That's how House ran things. That's how House will _always_ run things. Pretty speeches aside, that's who he really is. Independence may be harder, but it's the best chance the Mojave has at developing into a place where everyone matters.
_stands up and claps with tears streaming_ BRAVO! THAT'S THE FUTURE WE WANTED! I always loved how Bethesda never got the Mega Happy ending. They ALMOST got it, but not quite
"and so the couriers road came to an end, for now." Huh, i never noticed that phrasing before till now. Maybe since the success of the fallout tv show, we might get a continuation of the couriers story after all.......
You can still get it if, A. the brotherhood has been blown up, and, B. you put on some NCR faction armor like trooper gear, then some script triggers with the story and the and the game thinks you are working for the NCR and arcade will give you the quest, it's even possible to get it with a caesar's legion Playthough.
@@Mr-Rinn My personal favorite ending for arcade is when he stays in freeside and you do the mr house ending, in that ending he stays there for a little while then he goes to become a Doctor for the followers in the boneyard.
fun fact i was looking in falout new vegas and i found cut ending voice line about brother hood of steal joining and helping Mr House And also 4 cut quest that need to be done 2 get that ending . i will try to make it as a mod for the game.
If the ending have taught me anything the ncr bring long term support to the area and the legion will fall apart sooner than later seeing how if you don’t intervene with the tumor problem well…..but I thought the vault dweller would bring a good 30-40 years of straight up peace. They don’t call me Lord Death Of Kill Mountain for nothing
SPOILERS FOR THE FALLOUT TV SHOW: Given how the show dealt with the NCR by Vault-Tec nuking Shady Sands and invasion of East Coast Brotherhood of Steel to California its safe to assume House(or at very least Independent) ending seems to be more canon than ever.
I tried to do Mr. House ending but we came to a crossroads on BoS. At that time I was still young and radical to their cause from my days of Fallout 3.
I honestly believe a House or Yes-Man ending would prove good for the NCR in the long term. Once they abandon their idiotic expansionist leaders, they can focus on making things better in NCR itself. Focusing on improving what they have, instead of wasting lives, resources and time on pointless conquest.
I like how the fiends get fucked in every endings except the independent ending if you leave them alone 😂😂
Very few empires would be happy about having a gang of chaotic barbarians being in their territory.
@@anonmouse15 Legion especially, all things considered.
Why not:
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Kinda wish there was more to do with the fiends. They are fun but they feel like such a small side quest that you can basically ignore.
@@jamesainsley6846the vipers and jackals and scorpions got done dirty
I always liked the idea of simply carrying out the job you were hired to do for Mr. House and being rewarded and told you exceeded expectations as an employee. The courier doesn’t trouble themselves with politics, they were hired to do a job, did it well and that’s that.
You should work for Amazon
Reminds me of Mike from breaking bad
you probably reminded the teacher about homework and work unpaid overtime at gamespot because you think it'll net you a managerial position. please explain how this is "staying out of politics"
cd0 cd0 You’re wrong. I work unpaid overtime for fun, not for a reward. I also didn’t remind the teacher to give out the homework, I created my own homework and turned it in for no reason.
@@Marshmellow3971 I had no idea you are indian sir... Jai Hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
You take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen...
what annoyed me is that there wasn’t a single reply for eight months but four hundred likes
Ong and now I am the reason it's at 666 🗣🔥
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@@Bl4ckberrium Calm down satanist.
@@Bl4ckberriumyou disgust me
@@RhythmicallyEpic We all silently sipping, pouring a cold one out for facundobochatey9450
“We don’t need to feel special… because we already are.”
“If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the window.”
Mr House has a 10 in charisma.
The House always wins.
With Speech about democracy Mr House completely got my loyalty
Man saved Vegas from 69 nuclear warheads restored the city, forced his own terms upon a whole economically and military advanced country
@@timberm4n379if you really think about it Mr. House and Caesar’s philosophies weren’t that different. They both wanted societies governed by one higher power with absolute authority. How they brought about that society were different but I assume if Caesar had the resources house did he would’ve come up with a similar solution.
@@Kwiwiwiwi you are wrong here. Caesar wanted a society without any kind of technologies . In the game if you ask settlers of Caesar camp they will tell you that any kind of drugs( logical) and whats important STIMPACKS are forbidden. Caesar doesnt want developed society cause he thinks technologies will lead to another nuclear war. He despises technologies. Thats why he wont allow stimpacks and other stuff. Ironically Caesar needs a surgical procedure using highly developed surgery machine. Thats why Caesar's policy is hypocritical and dumb. mr.House on the other hand, he aspires for technologies. HE thinks that humanity should embrace development of technologies not for the sake of development, but for humanity itself. mr.House embraces innovation, technologies. Yes. they are both "dictators" but what distinguishes House from Caesar is that House isnt Mad, selfish, Narcissist, Dumb sole ruler. Quite the opposite. IS mrHouse mad? no. Is he selfish? if he was selfish he wouldnt have saved entire City, Is he narcissist? OH YES. But it doesnt. Is Mr. House dumb? of course not
@@Kwiwiwiwithe difference is Caesar wants to control everything in his military state, whereas House just wants to control the important stuff so he can make it as good as possible.
I love the pop up of "you take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen" as if the Courier is watching the slide show as a movie.
Because you are. It transports the PC to a dark room that these slides play on
As the other commenter said, you actually are, I have mods (i don't know which one does it) that fucks up the end slides so I can see below and above where the slides are and it's a red carpeted room with basic walls, most likely a room fashioned after the Tops.
you can enable movement at the end and move around the small room and behind the slides is actually the narrator its funny stuff
Using 100 Barter on Oliver with House is the best ending; you form a House-NCR alliance that is beneficial for both factions. I would not hesitate to defend the idea that that ending is honestly even better for the NCR than their own ending. The NCR is no longer overstretched and House's Securitrons are much better built to guard carvan routes in the boiling desert than flesh and bone NCR troopers. The ending also involves promising the NCR a free hand in conquering the Legion's territory. In that ending the NCR millitary and Securitrons army join forces. The NCR avoids being overstretched. Hoover Dam runs more effectively than ever with House's technical experience overseeing it during the ending slides. Lastly, it is the only ending directly taking the fight to the Legion straight away. The Legion and the NCR will never attack the Mojave again, and the combined Sercuriton army-NCR millitary would be able to handle the predicted Tunneler migration from the Divide to the Mojave that Ulysses predicts. No other ending allows for that security.
Truly one of my favorite things about the House ending is just how powerful the Securitrons are. One MK. II Securitron could easily best at least 5 NCR Troopers at once, assuming they're all armed with mere service rifles. Any Legionary caught without a firearm would be decimated, same goes for raiders. I'm not too sure how powerful power armor is in lore, but I'm fairly certain it couldn't withstand 4-6 direct missiles/rockets from a Securitron, even so power armor seems to be a rare sight in the Mojave, especially now that the BoS is no longer around in the House ending, the nearest chapter being far away and all other forms of PA in the area are just stripped of their servos. Planes and vertibirds would struggle against the Securitrons anti air tactics, and vehicles would suffer against Securitron missiles as well. The only thing that I see posing a threat to Securitrons are tanks, artillery, and long range snipers/rocketeers. Of course the Mojave doesn't have infinite resources, House could make hundreds of Securitrons but keeping a steady supply of rockets and ammunition for every single unit could prove a challenge in times of war.
@@generaltobias3777 Yeah, and unlike Yes Man, they're in control of a man who really understands them, considering he created them. House has been planning for his big play for 200 years, he understands how best to utalise the Securitron army.
It what if we hate the NCR more than the Legion? It’s not the most perfect ending.
@@Bigkingmonster408 Caesar dies no matter what but you can spare Giga-Lanius.
@@generaltobias3777 I know, I always spare Lanius in all my play throughs that I’m not legion
I'm really sick of people calling the ncr the perfect ending just because they are the most like America. All you do is babysit in that playthrough
@@Reiman33 oh boy here the argument comes. The main criticism with the NCR is while they have the most appealing option on paper, in practice they can't even send 10 troopers to kill giant ants on the road so what makes you think they are going to be able to secure a town? They only start to become a option that can actually protect their citizens and later the Mojave when the player puts in a entire playthroughs worth of babysitting to solve all their problems. Without the courier, the monorail blows up so they can't reinforce the dam as well, they don't stop the assassination of their president, they don't get cement from quary junction to reinforce the dam, they can't adequately feed their troopers at McCarren, forelone hope goes even deeper into the gutter as troops don't get supplies, chief Hanlon commits suicide so they lose the only smart millitary strategist that knows how to fix problems besides throwing troopers at it, information keeps getting leaked to the legion so they keep losing troopers to hit squads, the fiends keep pillaging the Mojave, any ncr in fireside gets killed during hoover dam, the embassy gets blown up, trade stops moving because they can't secure roads, they don't make a deal with the boomers, the brotherhood doesn't get dealth with, the kahns are still a problem, and countless other problems. They are only a faction that can actually back up the claims of protecting everyone once the courier comes along and solves all their problems. Meanwhile the legion, house, and yes man can actually work antimony without the help of the courier. The legion destroys ncr settlements, gets help from the omertas, extends a invitation to the kahns and figures out where the brotherhood is on their own. House figured out where the brother hood is, is actively looking into the omertas, has already figured out the legion is going to assassinate the president and is making moves to try and counteract it. House is also the only faction that demonstrates any idea of what to do AFTER hoover dam gets secured. Every faction wants it for water/power but just keeps going imperial mode after while house plans to use it to remake factories and make a economy to make better bots and go to space to make colonies. House and the legion are the only factions that demonstrate any capacity to secure the mojave/the residents there in any successful capacity, meanwhile all of the ncrs territories in the Mojave are plagued with problems waiting for someone to come fix them because they literally cannot do it themselves. If you don't do a ncr playtrhough, what good is the protection/governing style they plan to offer when they can't even protect their territories in the first place? Even with the brutality of the legion and house's expansion most people will get protection meanwhile the ncr is still stuck trying to kill 10 ants on the side of the road bottling up their main trade route. With house/yes man you arguably get more autonomy over yourself than the NCR anyway. Yes the ncr seem the most appealing but most people would rather live under the legion/house if it meant they got a stable food supply, didn't have to deal with raiders, and could actually protect them instead of just annexing their town by force, making them pay taxes to protect them, then not even following through. That's why most of the Mojave doesn't wanna join the ncr
It's a testament to the quality of the games writing that even the bad guys of the game (Legion) have enough good qualities that you can appreciate why someone might prefer them to the "Good guys" (NCR).
For all it's cruelty and barbarism, the Legion is at least competent enough to actually take steps to solve their own problems
The NCR is almost cartoonishly rife with nepotism, bureaucratic bloat, and general incompetence, but at least they have benevolent intentions
I really really really wish that Obsidian had been given enough time to really finish the game like they wanted. I don't think any of the existing factions would have been quite as they are today if the Devs had the time to polish the game.
You get 3 endings, this is the one we consider most likely to be canon.
@@R34PR_ shut up IGN, NV has 4 ending
@@Valcerv The only benefit in the game the NCR has is the trader for ammunition that is their only benefit otherwise you are a 100% right it's a babysitting gig
I think the best way to convince Oliver to leave is the science checks where you can tell him that they can give the NCR power and water if they pay and he agrees
Having the might of House's Securitrons to alleviate their burden in the Mojave with them being so dangerously stretched thin is more than worth the payments.
That or partnering with NCR caravans is the best ending and probably canon (to me)
@@Yes-Man1337i prefer the science one cuz you convince him and possibly the NCR that hoover dam needs house or it will not function properly
And you flat out tell him it's cheaper to buy it than having to pay for an entire army to be here.
The survival of the Kings is a make it or break it aspect to any playthrough worth it's salt.
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What kind of demon kills the man who blessed me with the goodest of robot bois 😢
@@FecalMatador
Virgin Yes man vs Chad Victor
I think House spares the Kings if you don't make peace between them and NCR.
Ive never played a house run yet, and seeing this ending makes me want to consider this the cannon end to the story of the mojave
I dunno. While I do like the idea of House winning, I also know the implications . I feel like Yes-man is the true ending, because it wouldn't completely shatter the balance of power in the wasteland.
Because he who owns the dam owns vegas, and he who owns Vegas has immense power. Enough power to completely shift a power struggle into one's favor. Nobody getting it, knowing Black Isle, is probably the Canon ending if I had to guess.
@@texo456 Could be, idk. I've never personally liked the idea of the courier owning Vegas cause i feel like it's kind of lazy writing and most people go through mental hoops to make it make sense. But Yes-Man is 100% a traitor. Dude is mad sketchy. So maybe that could be the canon ending, him locking the courier out of their own city and going rogue like the Calculator and his robots from Fallout Tactics.
@Uncle Phil I honestly never really got that from the ending. I more got from all of the endings that he helped one of the factions, then kept wandering, cause that's what a courier does
@Uncle Phil and since yes man is the only one who has no intent to use the power for greater means, it would make sense. The legion could also work, since the destroy the dam and shut down new Vegas, but that would also go against their model of Canon endings with the evil guy never winning
The Mr. House ending is how Fallout becomes Starfield, it isn't about keeping some sort of balance between factions or returning to a pre-war America, it's about moving forward...
I think outer worlds is a more likely outcome.
Begin again, but know when to let go.
@@blueeyeswhitemoron4488probably because it was developed by obsidian and it also has this kind of thing where Massive companies do crazy expirements and shit which mostly results in disasters
@@blueeyeswhitemoron4488That's actually a really good theory.
Except, it was technology that put them in that position anyway. And I don't like the idea of some 200 year old rich guy being able to do whatever he wants.
“The slaughter of the VanGraffes…” *You take a sip from your trusty Vault 13 canteen*
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I do love whenever i do the worst possible ending, the game is explaining the hell i imposed on the wasteland and apparently the courier is just taking sips from his canteen while he watches
@@NuclearNuke41that pops up when there's a reference to F1
4:00 "Back to Vegas, shall we?" I've always loved this for whatever reason. The courier has earned a home in Vegas
The "make the trains run on time" line was a nice touch. Reminds you that there's always a compromise when making your choices.
Nah it’s more so a reference to the Italian dictator Mussolini during WW2. It’s essentially alluding to the fact that house will be a cruel and cold dictator (as suggested by what happens to the “joy” in Vegas as everyone is stuck moving about in a specific manner and if not they get their asses stomped by the securitrons.
@@thepapakeeganshow6440 Or house just saw the monorail as a profit opportunity and the fact that he’s a perfectionist makes it so the trains not running on time does genuinely bug him
It’s a fascist allusion to Mussolini. House doesn’t see the role of government as just a regulatory one, but of complete control of commerce via a totalitarian regime that even controls the most minute part of people’s lives.
That’s the implication of the ending when it says that it feels cold. In effect, it house has created a system to run he trains on time by controlling even the most minute aspects of people’s lives.
The best comical rendition of this that I’ve seen is the joke in the Barbie movie when Barbie complains that she’s been called a fascist but she doesn’t control the trains.
@@jrodri14ii THANK YOU FOR AGREEING! I'm not really sure how people can justify it as "oh House just likes trains" when it's one of the most famous quotes of the first ever fascist dictator LOL.
@@thepapakeeganshow6440while I do understand where you and the other guy are coming from i believe it needs to be said that if you do a high karma ending the courier actually ensures Mr house doesn’t abuse his power and become a true dictator. I also believe that Mr house was speaking the truth when he said he has no intention to directly control the lives of people.
My take on Mr House is this: to him efficiency is the most important aspect. You’re allowed to do what you want and live like you want as long as you don’t cause problems and do your job. Mr house is focused on the big picture and the future of humanity as a whole meanwhile the courier with high karma is focused on the more immediate future and keeps things as stable as they can.
As for what happens when the courier is dead, that’s a good question. However if house has the technology to preserve himself it wouldn’t be a huge leap to assume he could preserve the courier so the courier can keep things stable while house continues working towards the big picture.
Between the courier keeping things stable and House being the only one with an actual long term goal and the power,resources,capital,knowledge and drive to give humanity a brighter future I fully believe a high karma house ending is the best.
4:18 - I thought my PC broke. It was just the video lol.
yeah that looked like a gpu starting to die
It's so nice to see everyone discuss this game's story because it's an rpg with a rich set of choices that have dynamic consequences. New Vegas is a reminder of why I love rpgs and talking about them
Something Cyberpunk 2077 could have been.
@@Bloodhurl67dont remind me
Mr. House is based on Howard Hughes, fyi. Very interesting life. He was an aviator, film producer, inventor, and millionaire. He lived in Vegas as a recluse due to a very painful disease which kept him at home all day, but he also bought a bunch of land including casinos and the wiki says he "transformed Las Vegas into a more refined cosmopolitan city"
My dad actually did some work for him many years ago in Florida. He built a hanger for him where he was keeping what he claimed were experimental and untested engines for projects he was developing. My dad always said he was a weird man to do work for. He had a very tight inner circle and he would only talk to them. If you were doing work for him you had to speak with a middle man in order to get any communication done. Apparently Howard Hughes didn't like talking to people directly and was apparently a germaphobe.
@@moviemaker2011zI didn't know he hates germs that bad
@jamesnaldplayzyt7323 yeah, it's never mentioned in any literature about him but my dad swore that's how he was and my dad has done alot of work for a lot of rich people. One person he did tile work for was the guy that Made denim Jean fabric. You would never have guessed it by how the guy carried himself but he was super humble and nice to my dad I was told.
“I can make sure it not only runs, but runs on time. Always bothered me, the imprecision.”
Howard Hughes? My brother in Christ, you need a history lesson. 😅
@@rorke6092 who in history also had a serious aversion to uncleanliness and made sure the trains ran on time? 🤔
I absolutely love how the smoke clears and suddenly a thousand robots pop out of know were
it’s even better that it’s a bunch of pngs because the engine couldn’t handle it
Coming back to this but the Fallout show confirms this is very likely the true ending cannon
Which is good, because it means canonically Mr house is still alive and well. We need to see more of him in season 2.
They already cast Robert House for the flashback scene in the first season, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they decided to take the Independent ending, but have House still be alive and disconnected from the Lucky 38 systems.
@@Validifyed *SPOILER FOR FALLOUT SHOW SEASON FINALE( watch it btw it’s really, really good!)
I actually think Hank is gonna visit House for help of some kind and that’s why he went to New Vegas at the end.
@@vingasoline5068 most likely, considering House is the only non Vault-Tec people from the meeting scene who is still around
@@vingasoline5068 If Hank tries to meet with house, and House is still in control, he will be *pissed* at Hank/Vault-Tec. Shady Sands was an important group of people, some of New Vegas's best customers, and Hank blew them up.
Still to this day can't get over how ass that dude was at voice acting. His delivery as Oliver broke the hell out of my immersion every time. Even with the npcs he voiced.
Yeah and he does so many voices in the game lol it’s insane
He can't even say the word "plumed" correctly. Makes me wonder how this got past QA testing.
I personally think "like fucking hell we're withdrawing" was delivered pretty well.
@@EA_SP0RTCENTER Yeah, he did well on some parts, but for most of his lines, they were more wooden than a tree lol.
@@NCRRanger7753 yeah he sounded kinda bored lol
I consider this the cannon ending
"Canon", dummkopf.
Bad opinion.
stay mad
Independent Vegas forever
Realistically it would be the canon ending. Both sides don’t get destroyed and that puts up potential to bring back the NCR and Legion in future titles. Also the Courier would most likely want to help House after House saved their life.
Ironically enough House’s ending could actually lead to Obsidian’s recent series “The Outer Worlds” considering it perfectly describes what House wanted to achieve for humanity.
I still liked throwing General Oliver from the dam. A slightly more dignified end than the political execution he would otherwise get.
Hey… chance of suicide is only around 36%
@@mahmud7645 Exactly. Always make sure your enemies are dead.
Killing him (and/or Kimball), as pointed out by House, would be mercy, and potentially make him into a martyr or hero (both of which he isn't nor deserves) for the hyper-corrupt, greedy military and politicians to use and rally with against you. Nah, leaving him alive for the other grifting, power-hungry politicians and military rank-climber bloodsuckers like him to ravage and conveniently put all of the blame on so to save their skins is a much worse, satisfying and convenient (for you) fate than death.
I am sincerely split in half between house and yes man.. i mean, who do i chose
@@andryuu_2000In my eyes Yes Man is kinda a cop out. Like I feel the only reason he was put in the game is so the player can still “beat it” if they mess up all the other factions.
I like how everyone takes his sweet time to load to the scene, even the smoke of the explosion.
My first and only run of New Vegas, I slaughtered the legion after seeing the “lottery”, then spent the entire game getting harassed by legion scouts as I helped the most competent man in the Mohave reach for the stars. Mostly ignored the NCR with their mundane goals, petty problems, and corruption.
After watching a fair bit of YT content about the other endings, I can only say this about my own playthrough:
No regrets.
You’re a very wise Courier, Hobbyist.
understandable
The lottery was based though
@@nsdapcommunism2780oh aren’t you so edgy
@@Azzazpimp what do you mean? You really think I say that for any other reason besides actually believing in what I said? I reckon in my country at least 30% of people would agree with me, so im not edgy by definition.
This game is one of a kind.
This game is T tier.
The Best of All that is
Truly. 18 mf-ing months. Lightning in a bottle. I almost hate it cause it set a unreachable bar i judge everything by. Its story/lore is absurd in how sharp it is.
I always wondered why it is people consider Raul's vaquero ending to be the better one. To me, it feels more fitting for him to leave his past behind to pursue a different passion.
Because ghoul vaquero is fucking cool that's why
New Vegas fans will NEVER, EVER have any form of media literacy, as least the modern fans unironically posting “wojaks” and using the terms “Based” and “Redpill”😂
@@homestuckfan8844 What does that have to do with Raul and his endings?
@@homestuckfan8844 🤓
@@Ph34rth3hhum4n4t0r that's a tough one. Never really thought about that 😁. I think being a vigilante Vaquero is honorable, it would've made his little sister proud. But being a mechanic would eventually bring peace to the ghoulish uncle Danny Trejo 😁
I like how the dust finally remembers that it's supposed to spawn in, after you've seen five people appear from nothing.
This game has to be remastered. Every cinematic like this vanilla/DLC always makes me feel happy and nostalgic.
Well there is a Fallout 4 mod that remakes NV but we will see
The question is more about WHO will remaster it? FNV is not a perfect game, and if someone remaster it they will most likely impart their own biases and change a few things that cause big changes down the line.
The Legion was given a bad hand because most of their content was cut from the game. You get a very NCR biased view because of it. What if a remaster changes the game so that House and Yes-Man are not given any redeeming factors?
@@Cloud_Seekerironically some may claim lack of Legion content gave more opportunity for mixed interpretations if Obsidian had intended to bash them more
To be fair, it was with the help of Robert House that most of new vegas got mostly untouched by nukes. So he earned the rights to watch over it since he protected it.
That's not how the world works. By your logic the military should run each country since they protect their respective countries from foreign enemies.
I don't think that's entirely fair. The way I see it, there were potentially thousands of people who were employed by House, whether at Robco or in the post-war world, who made him the man he was and allowed to save the Mojave twice over.
Without the support of all those others, Vegas would've been destroyed, and so they, living in and propping up the city through their labour, ought to have a say too.
most probably the canon ending now
I truly belive House is the best chance humanity has in the fallout timeline
Fr he seemed like he genuinely cared for humanity sure he wanted money aswell but oh well
@@Eggsandwich5454 he is cold about it but he does care for humanity’s future and success
It's one of those selling your soul kind of deals. His path certainly is progress, but it's a poisoned chalice, and it will be irrevocably chained to the whims of a tyrant who will never relinquish that power. No matter what, Mr House does what's best for Mr House. Chunks of humanity just happen to benefit from that as well.
The biggest thing with House is that, in cannon, he actually is what he says he is, which rarely holds out in the real world. I remember hearing over multiple times since the game released, how it would be like if Elon Musk controlled the government. But as pretty much everyone has come to learn, the real life supergenius who can save us all is pretty much always a fantasy. Lies peddled by snake oil salesmen, and that real progress is more often than not borne out by mutual collaboration. but, in a hypothetical, where someone actually does have that unique greatness, would be interesting to see.
Real
He was a fascist?
This game came out 13yrs ago and I just played it and I was definitely impressed. Didn't think it would have been as good as fallout 3 boy was I wrong!!!.
Same here. I started with Fallout when it first came out. Then got Fallout 2. My nephew gave me Fallout Tactics, which I quickly got bored with. Then I saw the release of Fallout 3 and wanted it, but couldn't afford it. Many years later, I bought Fallout 4 when it went on sale and LOVE that game (over 4200 hours played and still going). Then not long ago Fallout 3 was on sale, including all DLC and I bought it. It looks pretty dated, but it was fun to play. Most recently, Fallout New Vegas was on sale and I bought it. It was also very dated, but a lot of fun.
You'll love EVERY possible conclusion.
I'd even go as far as saying Fallout New Vegas is even better than Fallout 3. And this is coming from someone who started Fallout New Vegas with a very, very big bias to Fallout 3 as it was the first RPG I took seriously and explored very deeply.
@@Rigel_Chiokis Fallout 3 and New Vegas are leagues better then Falout 4
@@brianyousef5764 That's cool. But I disagree. FO3 and FONV combined play time is a very small fraction of the hours I've played FO4. But that's what keeps the world interesting; different people like different things in different ways. Collectively, the entire Fallout franchise has been very entertaining! I'm also looking forward to the new Fallout series and the launch of Fallout London (a huge mod).
For the most part, this is probably the best possible House ending...with one exception in my opinion. I think Meyers is more qualified to serve as sheriff of Primm than Primm Slim.
I think slims a bit better but on house playthroughs I always give primm to NCR cuz after they leave house takes control of primm
I expect this will be the cannon storyline that the Fallout series adopts moving forward. I Played through New Vegas 3 times and never sided with House. This seems better than I expected.
Mr House = Odo from Deep Space Nine
he's awesome
Am I the only one who consitantly forgets about Vault 19?
Nope, I always have to remind myself to go there and kill everyone before ending a playthrough, otherwise I'll get that fucking slide of them still terrorizing the Mojave
I forgot the Vault 19 xD xD xD
i only knew of its existence after this
@@nagger8216 you don't have to kill them, you can convince them to join the khans
@@bitterman7258 9 times out of 10 my rep with the Powder Gangers is so low they attack on sight anyway, not to mention I just can't be bothered to save a bunch of jackasses that probably deserve the death penalty on some shitty back and forth quest where half of it is just the loading screens. That and I usually play as a bounty hunter/Desert Ranger character, if they're not surrendering, they're not living.
Hearing "war...war never changes" always brings chills down my spine
I've never actually heard Oliver be that cordial. Normally he gets pissy
House ending is the best outcome by far. When you rebuild a civilization some strong arming is absolutely needed and House is the perfect guy for the job. Only after humans get back at least to modern standard of living there can be other things.
Also I still can't get over the fact Fo4's factions&leaders are so much worse.
TBH, none of the factions could properly run the Commonwealth, the Minutemen are a disorganized mess, The Brotherhood are too weird, The Institute waste their time on Synths, and The Railroad dgaf about The Commonwealth outside of Deacon
@@addi543And that's the reason why Alaska belongs to the Enclave.
@addi543 the way I see it, the "best" option for the Commonwealth would be for the SS-ran institute and the minutemen to ally. Creating teleportation stations across the Commonwealth, allowing for the minutemen to literally come at a minutes notice. All the while the institute rebuilds the commonwealth.
But that is only possible if the institute gets its head out of it's @ss and acknowledges Gen 3 synths are sentient and free thinking.
Most common complaints i've seen of house tend to boil down to "but what about democracy 😢" as if democratic processes aren't the reason for the NCR being as crippled as they are in the mojave.
Usually people complain about how he's a dictator, and ignore everything else he says. "Doesn't matter if he's trying to fix the wasteland, he's a dictator so he must be bad." Democracies are great but the wasteland isn't ready for them.
@@generaltobias3777 House is also utterly unique in his vision can work. He isnt tempted by anything he doesnt comprimise he doesnt fear enemies he doesnt seek revenge he cant be bought he doesnt grow old and become senile needing to be replaced by someone less capable. This can literally only work with him
If House wins, the NCR is still around. It's not like democracy stops working (the fact that Hanlon can win a senate seat is proof enough). For a reasonable price, the NCR can still access Hoover Dam and its resources provided they maintain good terms with the House's nation state.
@@davidhong1934 Ive always thought thaat taking the Mojave would justify being expansionist yet there isnt another Hoov er Dam to justofy that expansion in the cards so they would continue to overextend without an ancient wornder of the word waiting in the next region
Democratic processes have absolutely nothing to do with the NCR being how it is. The distinctly _undemocratic_ oligarchic control of wealthy brahmin barons is what shapes the NCR.
It's basically America 2.0. Neither of those is anywhere close to being democratic.
Seeing an ending again filled me with nostalgia, such a brilliant game.
The house always wins
Literally the perfect game. Haven't played any RPG that comes even close to this. Just great storytelling, fun engaging gameplay, and your choices matter. 2007-2012 was the peak era for gaming. All we have is trash for games now.
Try playing fallout 1 2 vampire bloodlines the masquerade and deus ex all are really old hard as shit and require a pc but they're some of the best games ever made
theres a game out there called disco elysium
not your traditional RPG, most of the gameplay comes through talking to people, but it's probably one of the best games i've ever played. damn good RPG.
I'd recommend going into it as blind as you can, cause even shit like knowing the name of the character you play as can be a spoiler.
i'd give it a shot if you are lookin' for great RPGs, but the game isn't for everybody. i'd probably get it on a storefront you can refund it on
I heard there is another settlement needing our aid
2013 should also be counted to your peak era. It was an insanely stacked year
Have you tried Knights of the Old Republic II? Obsidian also made it.
This is probably the canon ending for vegas if there isn’t a closer alternative to the possibilities with the TV show unless Bethesda just went and did their own shitty lore all of a sudden
No ending is perfect, that's what makes this game so great. There is no right answer
I think there is a near perfect ending. It's a matter of opinion of course but I do believe that there is a relative perfect ending that would be considered the most optimal outcome.
@@moviemaker2011z optimal doesn’t mean perfect. Most factions will force you to genocide the BoS, and Yes Man has his own problems
@@epsilon6516 they suck anyway
War never changes. People changes, by roads they walks.
Last narrator's words of last DLC of last and least true Fallout.
Ever since the first time I played the house run I realized that this was the perfect ending. Then when you look at the cut content as a result of the independent ending which used to be the ending that I liked, free side and the strip ended up in riots in a large amount of people killed with the independent ending
Cut content isn't cannon
@@shameful3604 predictions of the future never are..
@@RLWBass ok well it isnt canon and was cut so canonically it didnt happen. there were no riots in freeside or the strip. it does not make sense for there to have been riots in freeside or the strip, the residents of both have an incredible amount to gain from being relieved of the NCR and House, even with the likely temporary increased strain on the followers of the apocalypse theres no reason whatsoever for a riot
@@shameful3604 House is the reason the families on the strip don’t kill each other, and that is 100% cannon. There’s an immense power void, people are going to fight to fill it. The omertas I’m sure would be 100 percent peaceful, same with the cannibals, right? People in freeside kill each other every day. Your take is trash, I’m sorry
@@shameful3604 What do you think happens when all of the major players are removed from an area, and you, the new self-imposed ruler, for as much fame you may have gained in your playthrough, still don't have enough popularity to be recognized and accepted as such, to hold the reins of power of an huge and powerful "horse" that Vegas and surroundings are? That's right, anarchy. Power vacuum. A free-for-all. Granted, if you do keep the Securitron army, it is mentioned that a short while after, after the dust settles, you do manage to bring back order by using the robots as your enforcers. But between the likely massive damage and loss of life resulting from the temporary anarchy, and you basically forcing yourself onto the throne with raw brute force and fear, it likely isn't something that will be accepted hands down without some occasional riots, protests and such (not to mention the lasseiz-fair attitude implied by the endings, possibly meaning that either no rule of law is enforced, or just the bare minimum).
So yeah, it is absolutely canon, actually, check the endings. Both explicitly mention anarchy and riots ensuing. Only difference being, that with the robot army you do manage to eventually suppress (for the short term at least) the anarchy and riots, and if you don't have it, then true, total, 24/7 anarchy ensues. And don't expect the Followers to help much on keeping the peace, since with the Independent ending, they are mentioned to be completely overwhelmed and barely able to keep providing their services due to how many people there are from the influx of refugees.
NCR cringest ending, they NEED your help because they didn't realize how tough it'd be to take over a state on top of BoS destroying gold reserves, making their cash practically useless. House is the best ending in this fucked wasteland.
People support NCR because NCR tries to be USA
But if they truly knew history they would be far more skeptical in chosing them
@@elpsykoongro5379 I mean... The purpose behind every ending is aligned to each peoples ideals. Literally every faction has good points and bad points. We can't agree on a "good" ending because their isn't any.
But for me personally, I would still pick NCR for all its flaws, incompetency, and corruption. And considering I ain't even american.
@@PauaP I think the NCR started off as certified "good guys" and have good intentions but with their growing rate of imperialism and expansionism and brahmin baron corruption and influence i think its even better for them if they lose the hoover dam to Mr House and kimball and oliver end up becoming completely disgraced and so there can be a shift in politics which hopefully results in a more inward focus for them to improve themselves
Never forget what they did to Vault City
@@properlyoiled661 this is true!
After playing fallout dust, I feel like Mr house is the best option now. I liked the idea of taking new Vegas for the courier but I feel like Vegas would peak there. And just stay as is. Mr house genuinely could send humans into space and if he can restore Vegas to what it's original Spirit is, he can certainly restore America. But he can only do so if he has the courier. Any other version of house is destined to fail simply by the fact that the NCR and Legion are simply to crafty and there numbers too great.
What makes you think sending humans to space is something that needs to occur for an ideal society and what makes u think house would accomplish anything different than what the NCR would (whether or not you establish a trade deal with the NCR so they don't eradicate you with sanctions Vegas is still eventually integrated into the NCR either way) Dust isn't cannon it's an insanely cynical work where the dev constructed a lore around worst scenario they could think of & how they thought that scenario would play out (which iirc was the independent Vegas ending where both the securitron bunker and the dam were destroyed) so I rlly don't see how it should effect anyone's opinion of anything
@@shameful3604 because Mr. House is a genius and has a shitton of resources and power
@@rexjolles no he's not. and no, he doesn't.
@@shameful3604 proof?
@@rexjolles The burden of proof is on you. House says "I'm a genius", this is your proof, the character whose run involves constant babysitting to prevent absolutely everyone he trusts from betraying him and provoking tribes into randomly harming unarmed civilians to prove "loyalty", whose the best outcome relies entirely on a courier running around and forming trade deals with the NCR on his behalf. The guy who lies in a big chamber with a series of big red buttons reading "EJECT" "KILL" "REMOVE ME FROM POWER", about 10 yards 3 securitrons and 2 unlocked terminals away from where he allows the courier to stand. There is nowhere in the game where house says he has a lot of resources or power, especially compared to the NCR, so I have no idea what proof you could possibly have of that
Never realised how reinvigorated Raul looks
I see the house ending as the cannon one. You were hired to do a job, so you did it.
I never liked House, but i can totally see why many people choose him over other ending. The idea of a "mega-pragmatist" ruling the Mojave that sees the people who rules only as far as they are useful to him send shiver down my spine.
"You take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen"
Im really sad and lost all morale to play this game because i looted every item all the junk items had literally every item in the game and had the perfect ending i did every quest and lost it all by accidentally deleting my save so yeah but this video gave me some morale to try it all again.
Mr House is not equal to the rest of the wasteland, he’s a 200 year old genius that’s possibly immortal and dead-set on human development, that qualifies him to be an autocrat in my eyes, if he had the same lifespan as everyone else id say democracy is in order.
(Top Left)
The courier got thirsty reading all these epilouges.
"No need to worry about the General by the wa"-- LOBOTOMY LOBOTOMY LOBOTOMY LOBOTOMY LOBOTOMY ELDRITCH HORROR
it makes me chuckle as the dust settles the army of security trons just their as they roll up
Amazon, “I’m just gonna ignore that.”
I usually find myself siding with House. He's already running things decently, the NCR is floundering and the Legion are savage tyrannists. I don't want to take over and have to run things with equipment I barely understand. House gets stuff done.
Looks like this might be canon
Yeah, why would they introduce him as a character in season 1 if he isn't going to be in the second season. I am 100% convinced this is cannon. But New Vegas actually looks like it is damaged and in ruins in the second season so another conflict in New Vegas might have happened ever since the ending of New Vegas.
@@omerthegoattSecuritrons is no Match for Deathclaws and Tunnelers. The Credit show there are damaged NCR Vertibird, Fortifications, And Bunch of death Deathclaws. I guess the New Vegas is Attacked by Massive horde of Deathclaws and Tunnelers.
@@GloriG_C17 The Courier should have been able to at least give House a warning after the events of Lonesome Road
@@RiseOfTheKumquat67 He think House and NCR are able to Hold them with his help.
House might actually be the best option after completing every factions run… NCR is tied up in beurocracy, legion will kill itself once it reaches California, and yes man’s ending leaves a lot to be desired. House would manage the strip and do exactly what he said he’d do, might actually lead humanity forward.
God the things I would do to play through this game for the first time again
Man, I miss when fallout was a slightly obscure series with exceptional writing.
Was GOTY ever time a release came out it was never obscure
That was basically my first run. Despite IRL despising everything to do with libertarian ideology and their proponents, or reverselly, 'autocrats' in general, in-game, House really had me hooked and 'sold his fish' for me to continue on his works. He seemed to have the most clear vision of what to do and how to accomplish it. Didn't trusted benny and his favorite toy to do the job (specially since also the other factions were extremelly chaotic), and NCR also didn't had it's shit together, causing as many troubles as they tried to fix, and the legion... well, they're the legion, good for target practice in hard mode once you get tired of killing fiends.
The biggest problem with House is that any system built on one point of failure will feel it very hard when it does happen, and he's not quite so smart as he thinks he is. And never mind the ideology or anything--House *is* smart, but it's still fairly insultingly easy to go kill him if you decide to take that path. He shouldn't even let you in the front door of the Lucky 38 at all until you've proven quite loyal, but barring that, letting you into the area that can access his life support at any time before the actual battle? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
@Foxy454 honestly at that point he knows he has to take a chance or roll the dice as they say.
Welcome to the right side of politics brother
@@shell2791literally
@shell2791 bro, he never said he was converted to your half-right version of libertarianism, he just said Mr. House had the best option, like genuinely, how can you play Fallout and be right wing? (Nvm, media literacy isn't your thing, you prefer to burn books rather then read them)
I love this game.
i really wish obsidian could of done a better job at spawning in the rangers and Oliver , watching them just poping in like that is awful
House is canon based
So if we see Mr. House in season 2 of the tv show, then that means his ending is the canon one.
Exactly why I came to watch this ending as a refresher! Seeing the city of New Vegas on the show has me pumped for season 2!
Doesn't Mr. House house survive in the lanius legion victory? i could of sworn he got subjugated but i cant remember
@@oblivioneagle3464 I think he lives on most of the endings. He just loses control of Vegas and you can choose to kill him or not, but he stays plugged in.
If you give primm to NCR house will take control of it after they leave
Now I want to see Primm Slim fight a mark 2 securitron
It's a bad ending that one, similar to the Kings, House gets pissy for them siding with NCR, and so starts governing them really hard and rains down a ton of taxes upon them as punishment, instead of leaving them be.
@@StimkySkunkoit's not good for primm but Good for house
@@scpfoundation2040 It's not. That will only cause Primm people to be pissy and hostile at House, and House will barely gain any money from it, his being a simple "containment measure" and "punishment" to prevent NCR from potentially using its acquired influence to stir shit up with Primm. Hence why preventing such a thing from ever happening in the first place is the best outcome for both Primm and House. Primm gets to mind its own business, House has one less thing to worry about and one less containment measure to apply that will make him more disliked.
If you think about it as well House’s ending benefits from a geo political sense as well. Seeing as how if he’s out of the picture the NCR or the legion can gain power unchecked compared to him in power acting as a third actor in the southwest keeping the legion and NCR in check
I have argued with people for years that House is the best of the big three endings for the game
That's cause you're stupid
He's my favorite simply because he has an army that doesn't need to eat, sleep, or fear disease
Not to mention each unit acts as a sentry to every other instantly and wirelessly transmitting intelligence and reconnaissance data that each unit discovers
Dude you have a class sign from Oblivion as your pfp, real g
I hope we get to see the courier and goodsprings in the fallout tv show season 2
I do wonder what was the appeal to my younger self about the independent ending;
If we think about it, Mr House has New Vegas at his interest at heart, he truly does care about it's microcosm, and the courier well, it's a courier bound to no one who will probably it the road again.
Ensuring people's freedom is a fine idea, but having a plan like Mr House does to back it up is even better, even if he had to be coarse to get there.
Hey, I have a plan too. It's vague and built on uneducated foundations but at least I care about Freeside and Outer Vegas.
I didn't like how House wouldn't settle for anything less than the total destruction of the Brotherhood.
@@Baked259
These are the same people that:
- strap bomb collars on "guests"
- slaughter outsiders suspected of knowing BoS secrets
- steal from caravans if nobody is breathing down their neck
"I can make sure the monorail not only runs, but runs on time" is such a great line. In the final dialogue when you achieve the best possible version of your ending, the game reminds you that you just installed an autocratic dictator that can't be defeated by any means. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, but phrasing that line in a way that likens him to Mussolini is such nice piece of subtle writing.
eh, the only group house actually wants exterminated is the BoS, which themselves are more than a little fascistic. For others, it's live and let live. He seems to be the only one thinking ahead (space colonization), while all the other factions are oriented towards survival.
yes
Worst case scenario, Courier can bust into his chamber and off him, if anything happens.
But yeah, he is a self-admitted authocrat, only without most of the "mortal", possible ways he could end up corrupted, and when you kill him or disrupt his plans he does sound genuinely caring and convinced of his claims. And between him, lasseiz-faire anarchy, hyper-corrupt NCR and Legion, he's the best choice you can afford. Yeah, dictatorship isn't nice, nor ruling coldly with a steel fist, but it is efficient and effective, which is what the wasteland direly needs, seeing everyone else either cares for themselves only, or try to go at it either in highly inefficient or extremely misguided ways (see the Followers) or in intentionally, completely wrong and malicious ways. Plus, heck, we are talking about a post-apocalyptic wasteland world full of factions either warring for control or wanting to live in their own little static or regressive bubbles, you can't expect sunshine and rainbows, as evident from the NCR (who tried to be a democracy, and see what happened, became an hyper-corrupt oligarchy actively harming its own people and serving the rich and powerful). Democracy is unfortunately a luxury that cannot be afforded in that situation, as first it'd require the majority of the population having to be able to survive and make it through a single day first, and then for them to be focused towards goals beyond the simple day-to-day survival, with zero net gain on reconstruction and betterment.
@@Flutok agreed. house doesnt do this for selfish reasons, he does it because he thinks its his duty to the people of vegas. honestly siding with house is the best option besides independent.
@@secretagentcathouse is a hyper capitalist who set his sights on vegas because it’s a money making machine for him, in which he’s planning to spend it on gathering enough resources to leave the planet behind. he’s not as cruel as other dictators, but if you want to look at his morality, look at the state of freeside. every person is a means to an end for him, all the factions act selfishly in this way.
I hope this ones canon like yeah its cool taking over vegas for urself and using houses anti aging chamber to become an ai god with yes man and live for a million years but I probably wont make rockets that could colonize other planets
But you could care for the people of Freeside in a way House would never think to. With all his wealth and power, I get the impression House would leave many of his own people to bootstrap into eternity, especially NCR citizens.
@@jimmyjohnson1870 This. People forget that House is, genius aside, still everything that's wrong with billionaires. Remember the insane number of caps he spent arranging the platinum chip's complicated delivery scheme? Imagine if he'd just spent a tiny _fraction_ of that in his wealth and resources to ensure that the people of Freeside had plentiful water, shelter and food and that the Followers of the Apocalypse were well-supported.
But he would never do that, then or after his ending, because House doesn't give a shit about the common people. He's an elite who cares only about other elites and people who are directly useful to him.
He talks a good game about wanting to advance the "future of humanity," but when House speaks of that future, he's not actually expressing any concern for most people. Only select people in his new "big club" that "you ain't in" (though the Courier may be) will get to share in and enjoy that "great future."
You want to know what a future under House looks like? Look around. The game never comes right out and tells you, but the clues are all there if you go looking for them. Look at Freeside, then look at the Strip, and look at how House brutally segregated it from the "dirty poors." That's how House ran things. That's how House will _always_ run things.
Pretty speeches aside, that's who he really is. Independence may be harder, but it's the best chance the Mojave has at developing into a place where everyone matters.
_stands up and claps with tears streaming_
BRAVO! THAT'S THE FUTURE WE WANTED!
I always loved how Bethesda never got the Mega Happy ending. They ALMOST got it, but not quite
"and so the couriers road came to an end, for now."
Huh, i never noticed that phrasing before till now.
Maybe since the success of the fallout tv show, we might get a continuation of the couriers story after all.......
Could just be foreshadowing for the DLC, Lonesome Road.
I remember I chose House in my first play through because he was so damn charismatic!
How did you get Enclave ending with House?
I thought it was impossible given that Arcade isn't a fan of him.
You can still get it if, A. the brotherhood has been blown up, and, B. you put on some NCR faction armor like trooper gear, then some script triggers with the story and the and the game thinks you are working for the NCR and arcade will give you the quest, it's even possible to get it with a caesar's legion Playthough.
Start the quest by getting the 5 "like" points and kill the BOS, then tell them to fight for the NCR
Arcade prefers an independent Vegas since the NCR has issues with Freeside.
It's his second least favourite, but he'll help you as long as you oppose the Legion.
@@Mr-Rinn My personal favorite ending for arcade is when he stays in freeside and you do the mr house ending, in that ending he stays there for a little while then he goes to become a Doctor for the followers in the boneyard.
wish we could still play the game after this tho
fun fact i was looking in falout new vegas and i found cut ending voice line about brother hood of steal joining and helping Mr House And also 4 cut quest that need to be done 2 get that ending . i will try to make it as a mod for the game.
House “If I have need for a specialist of your stripe again I’ll know just where to turn”
MC “sir I just deliver ‘mail’ of different calibres”
Something tells me this is the canon for the tv series…
The true good ending of New Vegas.
We are so back
Gotta be the canon ending forthe show. No way they show House prwewar and then not again. Vault tec wouldnt head to him accidentally.
4:19 it is 3:50 AM, no one awake but me, lights out in the house, I got scared half to death by seeing Mr house tweaking
That's odd. I got scared too. It's 3.40 am though
If the ending have taught me anything the ncr bring long term support to the area and the legion will fall apart sooner than later seeing how if you don’t intervene with the tumor problem well…..but I thought the vault dweller would bring a good 30-40 years of straight up peace. They don’t call me Lord Death Of Kill Mountain for nothing
SPOILERS FOR THE FALLOUT TV SHOW:
Given how the show dealt with the NCR by Vault-Tec nuking Shady Sands and invasion of East Coast Brotherhood of Steel to California its safe to assume House(or at very least Independent) ending seems to be more canon than ever.
Yeah and Vegas being on bad shape may be a bad estimate of mr house about the "brief dip"
Spoilers: it's shit.
How did you end up not upgrading the army and still getting this ending? And did it change anything? Just curious
Ron Perlman: War, war never changes.
The Courier: Okey dokey
I played the story out the same naturally I just thought it was so sick to play as a double agent
I tried to do Mr. House ending but we came to a crossroads on BoS. At that time I was still young and radical to their cause from my days of Fallout 3.
Growth requires pain
@@rigajykra3159 damn deep dude
Same
I realised the bos deserved it when they murdered a group of followers of the apocalypse just for coming in contact with veronica
I honestly believe a House or Yes-Man ending would prove good for the NCR in the long term.
Once they abandon their idiotic expansionist leaders, they can focus on making things better in NCR itself. Focusing on improving what they have, instead of wasting lives, resources and time on pointless conquest.
Kimball haters ain’t allowed here
you take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen .
This should be the canon ending for the show. When Hank gets there, everyone is dead, including The Courier, and possibly House.
In my honest opinion, the house ending is the best ending. Guy just knows what he's doing and has real ambition
This really makes me want to play Fallout New Vegas but just soo many damn option's on what to say and what it does to your game and the ending ect.
I did my first play through a few months ago. I can’t believe I got almost this exact same ending :)