@@stvrob6320 Or in ground effect, which he wasn't. And never in gusty winds which you can hear in the video. Doesn't look like there was much, if any, damage.
Why do they have to test their wings so close to the ground? I first learned to stall and spin at 4000 feet AGL. Make all the mistakes you like and get out of trouble.
A wing dips while the wing is in a stall or near-stall. The plane goes into a spin in that direction. It's the texbook description of how a plane goes into a spin. Thanks for the illustration, in slow-motion, no less.
Look at the aileron, down on the stalling wing and up on the flying wing. Was he aware of approaching the stall and prepared to act immediately? The rudder input was absent, speaks volumes.
When in initial flight training my instructor made me set up a near stall on approach and then made me put my hands in my lap, allowing the use of the rudder only to keep the wings level. The instruction was extremely valuable and it stuck with me though I never needed it, that training was always the first response to a stalled wing rather than aileron which increases drag on the wing you don't want down. Preach this to the rafters!
More importantly, the number of good landings must equal the number of takeoffs. And to carry on: any lending you can walk away from is a good landing, but any landing that lets you use the aircraft again is a great landing.
TF u mean ''pilot'? This was an STOL competition and a spin - also, technically, no it didn't - it spun, this was likely unprompted and there's no sign of the pilot attempting left wing down - yes, all pilots should know how to recover/avoid a stall/spin this close to the ground but it is a mistake many experienced pilots have made and he is lucky to be alive. He definitely should not have his license put into question by strangers on the internet. Absolutely no need for the speech marks.
@@orangegherkin3420 I gotta wonder if a gust didn't catch his starbord wing and started the plane slipping left. At that altitude, things happen very quickly. I applaud the pilot for being able to keep the rubber side down, when all was said and done.
@@orangegherkin3420if you look closely he induced a stall spin attitude, there was no indication of yaw and rudder input, not saying he’s a horrible pilot, but in this case poor input in particular conditions, look closely at the video, closely he corrects but un successful with right roll when right rudder would have saved him
@@jeependousAlso funny seeing all the comments sayinf that he's wrecked the plane. I highly doubt a STOL plane is all that bothered by what's basically a bump at 5MPH.
That's true, doesn't help when you apply aileron to lift the dropping wing leading to a tip stall. Recovery for that at such a slow speed is lots of rudder. Seen the same happen here in New Zealand, spot landing competition.
@@11235but Your experiences with this situation? The KitFox operating instruction for such situations is to apply opposite rudder which would have authority from the propeller slipstream and leave the ailerons neutral so as not to precipitate a tip stall.
What? No. Any plane can stall provided it has the elevator authority or wing loading to do so. Cub type aircraft have elevator authority in droves.. the extremely long arm of the tail is what makes it so slow and allows you to get and keep the tail flying.
@@calvinnickel9995 Yes but realistically - nobody would/should ever fly this slow this close to the ground/round out this high unless they were doing this to achieve the shortest possible landing distance
Nobody said you need to be smart to be a pilot, but it sure as hell helps. If he is going to practice edge of death slow flight, it helps to be a lot lower so that the gear just drop onto the runway
I would say that's all he used. You would think people that do this much slow flight would have the fundamentals down. Only use rudder, especially with the amount of torque from that throttle up.
The odd thing is it maybe be saved by slight push and neutral aileron, but right hand makes it worse as inducing yaw and thereby slowing the left wing. The way is help unstall wings. Jean-François
Down aileron sent detached turbulent air forward on the left wing while any fluttering trailing edge flow on the other wing cleaned up with the angle of attack reduction from up aileron.
Consider also, that it changes the chord of the wing. It takes an airfoil right on the edge and drops it past the critical point while at the same time reducing the angle on the right wing, improving its performance.
And why did s/he say that? Makes no sense. I've seen this sentence on many interwebs, seems ludicrous, why do people say it? Is it a joke? LIke a make-you-laugh ha ha ha the irony? Or is it a pop culture reference? Need to know!!!!!!! Or is it not for normies? I'm a normie. Or maybe not. I correct grammar mistakes on the internet while also making them myself, what a life! What if a tire pops from side loading and the plane veers off into the grass, but everyone walks away from it? Good landing right? Nah. Gotta be an inside joke.
Pilot seemed to remember the first part of stall recovery (he put on some power, should have put on more), but completely forgot the "stick forward" part - if anything deepened the stall with slight pull back.
@@langdons2848 Well yeah, it seems like on every aviation post you get the “Old, bold pilots” thing or “Swiss cheese model” or “Better to be on the ground…”, so I just kind of combined them.
Kept his wits about him, killed the engine right quick--between wingtip strike and wheel bounce!--in case of prop strike... but as noted elsewhere, used aileron when rudder was called for. STOL aircraft typically have good rudder authority right down to sub-stall speeds, but all high-wings lose some airflow past the vertical stab when flaps are down. Only do this with YOUR plane, never a rental, lol.
It's literally in the video title.... Every man, woman and child that watched this video knew it was coming, that's why we clicked, so we could watch it happen.
That’s heart breaking. Lots of time, money and effort put into these aircraft. Many are kits that people build in the garages. Many are built for work.
Such a basic thing to mess up. Put your nose down and power out. He even uses right aileron as the left wing stalls which is precisely the wrong thing to do - it will just stall even more. The thing that really annoys me about these clowns is that they THINK they're great pilots.
I get tired of the couch critics watching UA-cam. At least this pilot is pushing his limits. He’s actually trying and living life too. Bring the hate! Your opinions don’t matter to me.
He looked for the limit, and he found it.
That's a maneuver he should be doing at altitude.
Take it to the limit one more time-Eagles
@@stvrob6320 Or in ground effect, which he wasn't. And never in gusty winds which you can hear in the video. Doesn't look like there was much, if any, damage.
There are easier ways to park an airplane . LoL 😂
in RC aeromodelling we call “ Harrier “
Its impressive how hard he had to work to get that extremely high performance airplane to biff.
An F-15 is an extremely high performance airplane, not a cub
@@Alexius1Komnenos There is more than one type of performance. A high performance STOL airplane is a high performance airplane..
@@Alexius1Komnenos An F15 can't land on a parking lot
Why do they have to test their wings so close to the ground? I first learned to stall and spin at 4000 feet AGL. Make all the mistakes you like and get out of trouble.
@@billhamilton2366 They were probably practicing short landings
Once again a perfectly serviceable aircraft takes its operator to the scene of the crash.
Lol nice
oh dear... that's funneeeee!
At least this one wasn’t blatant incompetence. He was knowingly pushing the limits and I believe this plane has already been repaired.
And he was doing so well, right up to the point where he wasnt
Look, We got 100 feet passed where we went down the last time
@@dontall71 And it only cost me 100,000 dollars to do it!
Gradually and then all at once
A wing dips while the wing is in a stall or near-stall. The plane goes into a spin in that direction. It's the texbook description of how a plane goes into a spin. Thanks for the illustration, in slow-motion, no less.
The wing dips because that wing has stalled.
Very interesting.
That moment when gravity suddenly realises what's going on.
Look at the aileron, down on the stalling wing and up on the flying wing. Was he aware of approaching the stall and prepared to act immediately? The rudder input was absent, speaks volumes.
yep, they always follow instinct, lack of training on the ground engine off
you nailed it. rudder, rudder, rudder
Exactly correct...
When in initial flight training my instructor made me set up a near stall on approach and then made me put my hands in my lap, allowing the use of the rudder only to keep the wings level. The instruction was extremely valuable and it stuck with me though I never needed it, that training was always the first response to a stalled wing rather than aileron which increases drag on the wing you don't want down. Preach this to the rafters!
The added thrust would also have tended to induce a left wing drop.
Takeoffs are optional............landings are mandatory.
He landed ,BUT did he walk away to fly another day. Gravity will always cause you to land .
More importantly, the number of good landings must equal the number of takeoffs.
And to carry on: any lending you can walk away from is a good landing, but any landing that lets you use the aircraft again is a great landing.
That airplane did EXACTLY what the “pilot” told it to do
TF u mean ''pilot'? This was an STOL competition and a spin - also, technically, no it didn't - it spun, this was likely unprompted and there's no sign of the pilot attempting left wing down - yes, all pilots should know how to recover/avoid a stall/spin this close to the ground but it is a mistake many experienced pilots have made and he is lucky to be alive. He definitely should not have his license put into question by strangers on the internet. Absolutely no need for the speech marks.
Yup….stall
@@orangegherkin3420 I gotta wonder if a gust didn't catch his starbord wing and started the plane slipping left.
At that altitude, things happen very quickly.
I applaud the pilot for being able to keep the rubber side down, when all was said and done.
@@orangegherkin3420if you look closely he induced a stall spin attitude, there was no indication of yaw and rudder input, not saying he’s a horrible pilot, but in this case poor input in particular conditions, look closely at the video, closely he corrects but un successful with right roll when right rudder would have saved him
The plane reacted to inputs.@@orangegherkin3420
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
So original.
@@slay8467like yours! PRICELESS!
@@_DB.COOPER Very original.
@@youtubehandlesux have you ever had an original thought of your own?
@_DB.COOPER Über original
It was a STOL competition. During these trials, pilots see who can land the shortest distance. This is the reason why you see cones.
How do so many people not get this? Even without the cones it’s clear he is deliberately pushing stall speed to get the shortest landing.
@@jeependousAlso funny seeing all the comments sayinf that he's wrecked the plane.
I highly doubt a STOL plane is all that bothered by what's basically a bump at 5MPH.
@@dennied7826 He bashed both wing tips . The entire wing is going to have to be torn down , inspected and repaired as necessary
He nailed the parking spot.
and with the left over nails ,he can repair the wing.
Probably used ductape though because that fixes everything @@enoz.j3506
Blues Brothers parking job in an airplane.
He meant to do that.
Applying power at that attitude, torque reaction will eat you
thats what did for him
That's true, doesn't help when you apply aileron to lift the dropping wing leading to a tip stall. Recovery for that at such a slow speed is lots of rudder.
Seen the same happen here in New Zealand, spot landing competition.
That was just stupid
Cutting power is no good either
@@11235but Your experiences with this situation? The KitFox operating instruction for such situations is to apply opposite rudder which would have authority from the propeller slipstream and leave the ailerons neutral so as not to precipitate a tip stall.
He must have thought he was flying a helicopter.
Takes skill to STALL STOL
Probably trying the stol competition as a leading factor for the crash
What? No.
Any plane can stall provided it has the elevator authority or wing loading to do so.
Cub type aircraft have elevator authority in droves.. the extremely long arm of the tail is what makes it so slow and allows you to get and keep the tail flying.
@@calvinnickel9995 Yes but realistically - nobody would/should ever fly this slow this close to the ground/round out this high unless they were doing this to achieve the shortest possible landing distance
@@orangegherkin3420Welcome to a STOL competition reeeeee
@@orangegherkin3420doesn't going as slow as he is remove most of the danger though?
No one said you needed to be smart to be a pilot.
He needed money for the high lift devices and tundra kit though.
Nobody said you need to be smart to be a pilot, but it sure as hell helps.
If he is going to practice edge of death slow flight, it helps to be a lot lower so that the gear just drop onto the runway
Award winner 🎊🏆🏆🏆🎊🏆. 😂😂😂
Yeah. Do you have any idea how much knowledge that a certified pilot is required to have? Didn’t think so.
This video kind of proves you do
Bit too heavy on the ailerons, causing the "down aileron" to stall the left wing.
Yes exactly, well spotted
I would say that's all he used. You would think people that do this much slow flight would have the fundamentals down. Only use rudder, especially with the amount of torque from that throttle up.
Full right rudder, dude. Putting in all that right aileron just made it worse.
I guess he found his stall speed.
The airplane will always find the ground - with or without your help.
Crash?? I see that as a plane doing an impression of a helicopter making a (slightly awkward) landing. Well done!
As my "old man" used to say when I broke something, "now you got yourself a bunch of junk."
Should have been steering with rudder and not aileron. In that configuration, all you do is use rudder and power.
The odd thing is it maybe be saved by slight push and neutral aileron, but right hand makes it worse as inducing yaw and thereby slowing the left wing.
The way is help unstall wings.
Jean-François
Yes. At that high alpha the left aileron became his anchor. But he was doing very well up to that moment.
Down aileron sent detached turbulent air forward on the left wing while any fluttering trailing edge flow on the other wing cleaned up with the angle of attack reduction from up aileron.
Consider also, that it changes the chord of the wing.
It takes an airfoil right on the edge and drops it past the critical point while at the same time reducing the angle on the right wing, improving its performance.
Stunning capture! May I feature this mishap in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. Cheers!
“Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing”. Said someone somewhere. 😂
"And if you can use the plane the next day it was perfect"
-Chuck Yeager, first man flying faster than the sound.
And why did s/he say that? Makes no sense. I've seen this sentence on many interwebs, seems ludicrous, why do people say it? Is it a joke? LIke a make-you-laugh ha ha ha the irony? Or is it a pop culture reference? Need to know!!!!!!! Or is it not for normies? I'm a normie. Or maybe not. I correct grammar mistakes on the internet while also making them myself, what a life! What if a tire pops from side loading and the plane veers off into the grass, but everyone walks away from it? Good landing right? Nah. Gotta be an inside joke.
@@PassionForGrammar men/women who are test pilots understand exactly what this meant when Chuck Yeager said it.
@@mray8519 Oh okay, yeah, so.. inside joke
Did he walk or CRAWL away in shame ?
Keep pitching up too high and nearing a stall and then the headwind gives out and there ya go!
Once he pulled power the AOA looked like it increased because the pitch didn't change.
Didn't seem to anticipate that.
Can't believe that level of skills not using the rudder
But he added full right aileron. 😱😱🙄🙄🙄
That IS his level of skill.... 🙄🙄🙄
would that help at 2 mph? You need air moving over the surface to effect a force
"That was intensional! That was intensional!" Gimli, from the Lord of the Rings.
I'm sure the pilot had some landing plan in mind that wasn't "Slow down, nose up, stall, crash", but I i can't imagine what it might have been.
He was demonstrating what it would look like if a dog was PIC…. Excellent
Pilot seemed to remember the first part of stall recovery (he put on some power, should have put on more), but completely forgot the "stick forward" part - if anything deepened the stall with slight pull back.
Toooo late at 30 ft agl
@@hotrodray6802 At least it could have resulted in a wings level heavy landing on the mains rather than a wing tip landing.
Something about Bold Pilots...
They wish they were on the ground eating a Swiss cheese sandwich…..
@@tomcoryell I see what you did there - rather than flying through its holes to their fate...
@@langdons2848 Well yeah, it seems like on every aviation post you get the “Old, bold pilots” thing or “Swiss cheese model” or “Better to be on the ground…”, so I just kind of combined them.
@@tomcoryell two facts about flying that we should absolutely be keeping front of mind.
What on earth was he trying to do? That aircraft was willing to forgive almost everything he did behind the power curve, but he kept pushing it.
It was a STOL competition. He was trying to spot land in the shortest possible distance. The people on the runway are the judges.
@@nocalsteve OK, I guess that makes sense. Sort of....
He’s lucky the prop didn’t strike the ground. That would have added around $50-$75 thousand depending on engine/prop combination
I'm not sure if that one should be called a crash.
Gravity was strong that day
Hell of a crosswind skipper!
Kept his wits about him, killed the engine right quick--between wingtip strike and wheel bounce!--in case of prop strike... but as noted elsewhere, used aileron when rudder was called for. STOL aircraft typically have good rudder authority right down to sub-stall speeds, but all high-wings lose some airflow past the vertical stab when flaps are down. Only do this with YOUR plane, never a rental, lol.
Oh stop, he was flying on he edge and went over it. End of story. Only god knows the exact aerodynamics that happened.
Only do this on a rental. Never your own plane. :)
Was that a Super Stall?😂
That might be one of the stall competitions
That's nothing a hammer, a hot iron and a pair of scissors can't fix.
I knew that was coming.
It's literally in the video title.... Every man, woman and child that watched this video knew it was coming, that's why we clicked, so we could watch it happen.
Hello! Can we share the winning numbers please?
If he’s wondering how far? That’s how far.
After repairing the airplane, he should enter it into “The How Close Can You Fly to a Tornado“ competition.
Welp…must be a test pilot….🤣.
Damn you gravity! You win again!
Were the wings actually damaged, other than cosmetically scuffed? 🤔
Looks like the right wing crinkled up a couple of ribs in.
Damage report would be interesting.
Warped wings and bent tubes in the fuselage?
Or just in elastic limit and snapped right back?
I was waiting for the stall to happen. He did probably regret that.
Looking at that control input what made him feel so competent to fly right on the edge like that?
That wings tweaked unnecessarily.
Another winner of the how slow/low can you go contest.
He got lucky. He didn't f*** it up too good.
Took "Slow but safe" to another level 💀
Curios. Is that airframe toast? Asking as an avid arm chair aviator…
A new wing spar probably, which isn't cheap but fixable.
@@LarsLarsen77 Thanks for following up🤜🤛🛩
Nah, it will all buff out!😅
@@paulorchard7960 Always a buff out comment, congrads on being that guy, never heard that before!
Pirouette landing. It's an advanced skill.
What was he trying to do? Is flying on back of the power curve 5 feet above the ground a thing in STOL competitions?
Yep! Ya STALLED it, ya genius... 😂
"There's yer problem", he said...
That is a perfect textbook example of getting behind the power curve
Ok, but slamming aileron causes a stall.
Too much pressure, in the tires.
So that FAA inspection after the wipe out, is that going to be expensive? 🤔
They won't even show up.
It’s so refreshing to know that everyone in the comments is an accomplished aviator. Clearly, the future of manned flight is in good hands
That ain't no crash, just an average landing.
As long as his prop didn’t strike the ground, he can happily take right back off.
That’s heart breaking. Lots of time, money and effort put into these aircraft. Many are kits that people build in the garages. Many are built for work.
Seemed like didn’t compensate for pitch up tendency from added power?
Don’t quote me, but there might, I say might, be an issue with depth perception?
If you want to fly in just one spot get a balloon.
He must be a helicopter pilot who is trying to fly a plane. Good job. 😂😂
“The Guide says there is an art to flying", "or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
great HH reference
At first I thought the guy had a good headwind, then saw he had about a 30 degree alpha and was about thirty feet up, with no plan...
He's ok. Terra Firma broke his fall.
Sorry, buddy, you can’t park there
He was trying for a back flip, then changed the plan & settled on a pirouette - neat 😊😊
The pilot could walk away from it, so it was a good landing.
Exceeding the Critical Angle of Attack does it every time!
Aren’t all landings controlled crashes?
Was he attempting to take off with full flaps?
Put the power in just as the left-wing dropped. Right rudder might have stopped the left wing dropping.....but no rudder effect without power. ...?..
Not a pilot. Was he going for a STOL record? Ur whut?
The idea of flying so slow, is a competition on how to land in a short a space as possible. It’s a challenge on the pilots skill!
Or lack thereof.
Such a basic thing to mess up. Put your nose down and power out. He even uses right aileron as the left wing stalls which is precisely the wrong thing to do - it will just stall even more. The thing that really annoys me about these clowns is that they THINK they're great pilots.
That's one way to keep the landing short !
When you haven’t decided whether you want an airplane or helicopter
Flew right into gravity.
Clearly sudden increase in AOA just prior to asymmetric stall.
In aviation, that’s called the “pirouette park.”
so was he practing stall spins?
Someone else playing the test pilot …they found the aircraft’s limit
Think those huge landing wheels were throwing off the whole balance of that plane!
Why was the pilot flying so slow?
To recover from a stall, the angle of attack has to be reduced first. Too many people believe they can do it with engine power ....
That's the problem with stalling.... Sometimes only one wing stalls
I get tired of the couch critics watching UA-cam. At least this pilot is pushing his limits. He’s actually trying and living life too. Bring the hate! Your opinions don’t matter to me.
Monster truck craze meets aviation. 🤷🏽♂
He didn’t crash, he taxied to his tie down spot with finesse.
If you're going to crash, that's how to do it. Avoid the inverted 620mph impact when possible.
Everybody saw that coming with that high angle of attack and slow speed.