I have a 1961 Savage 99-F 358 and I absolutely love it. I couple my 358 with a Weaver K4 scope and the stopping power and accuracy is astonishing. I keep it in absolutely beautiful condition and fire it at the range twice a year
I got the exact same one. 1961 99F. Its my most valuable rifle. Inherited it from my wife's grandfather. Its my go to now for elk and deer instead of my old Remington 30-06. Cheers!
I grew up shooting a Savage 99 and found one of my own several years ago. My grandfather and I used to go hunting with our matched 99’s. Both of them were chambered in 308. Mine sports a 3-9x scope. The trigger isn’t great but it’s a dandy rifle none the less.
Now that I’m back in from hunting I can hear what you actually said, instead of watching the video on silent, those are really nice guns it’s a crying shame that savage quit making that 99, the new BLR are a little lighter because their aluminum receiver
Among the many "failures of judgement" I've made, regarding firearms, was NOT purchasing a NRA Excellent '99 in .303 Savage back in 2018. It would have made a great "middle gun" that fell between my "E" in .308 and my "E" in .250-3000. Maybe I'll get lucky and find another one that I can afford....But in the meantime I'm waiting for the current "lock down" situation to clear up so I can pick up a very, very nice BLR in 7mm Magnum that a friend of mine is holding onto for me at his shop....By the way, I've been kind of surprised at how, relatively speaking, cheap used BLRs are priced of late regardless of chambering. But then cheap is me and lever guns are the way I roll when it comes to hunting.
Check out the R's. They are really handsome 99's. Should be able to find one in .300 Savage at least, which is easier to obtain ammo for than the .303 Savage. They came in .308 too, but those are scarce.
Keep them both! If one absolutely had to go, keep that Savage. It's more collectible than the BLR, and that's coming from someone w/an old-school, BLR .358 (non-flush magazine).
My gosh, Yukon, you really know how to blow air up my skirt shooting the Model 99 in .358 Win. Beautiful rifle and beautiful round. I agree about bullet weight. I wouldn't go above a 225 gr. Load development is always fun and many.times frustrating. Of course I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. Thanks for the comparisons. Keep shooting, Brother.
Dang Bro, I am definitely jealous! Huge 99 fan here. While I have been contemplating getting a BLR in .358 I wish that the 99 was still in production in ANY caliber. You are a lucky guy and take good care of both rifles and they will take good care of you!!!!
I just bought a new BLR in 308 and the first 5 shots of new ammo only 2 went off. light primer strikes. doing some research online Thousands people with the same issue. I got 3 answers. Grease in the bolt assembly , Timing issue, or head space issue. One guy said to take the stock off and soak the action in some kind of solvent for 24 hrs then blow it out with air gun. not what I want to do with a brand new gun. So I used some carb cleaner and a air hose. Still having misfires. I loaded 5 empty casings with federal 210 primers 4 went off. loaded 5 with WLR primers only 3 went off. 5 with CCI 200 and 250's none went off.. very little dent in the primer. The hammer hits the back of the bolt face and stops and the firing pin still has to travel another 1/8 of an inch before it touches the primer, I don't know how any rounds go off ? no solid contact between the hammer firing pin and the primer. I put all the casings that didn't go off in the BLR in my rem 700 bolt gun and they all went off no problem ... Put the BLR in my chest freezer overnight the first 6 factory shells didn't go off the 7th one did. Iv been reloading for close to 50 yrs and never seen anything like this. Don't trust this gun for anything its junk. This is the only brand new gun out hundreds that I had to spend days trying to get it to fire every time, Still cant figure it out. Its going back..
I don't think it's a regular issue. You could try Warranty and see if they can fix it... that being said I think the BLR is overly complex and a bit fragile. I sold mine and kept the 99.
Another great video. I first found your channel awhile back when looking for something on the .348, having recently acquired one of the newer Miroku built Model 71's (took it hunting this year and managed to bag a very nice mulie with it with the 200 grain Hornady over IMR4350). It appears our tastes in hunting arms are quite similar - I am also a fan of the old Model 99. Mine is an early 1950's built example in .300 Savage. One of the nicest carrying rifles I own - as you say, its ergonomics are wonderful. It's the one I carry when I know I will be walking awhile. Mine has no scope, predating when they were factory drilled and tapped, and I don't want to alter it. So it wears the old Marble's "Game Getter" tang mounted peep. Oh, and as far as scopes - I have three of those wonderful little Leupold 1.5-4x, one on a M70 in .375 H&H, one on a Ruger #1 in 6.5 Swede, and one on another M70 in .30-'06. Best hunting scope I have ever found. Y'know, I'm starting to wonder if we're not distant cousins or something... ;-) Keep up the good work.
I had some 99's and an original 71. Life took them away from me. I particularly was missing a 99C in 308. I recently picked up a 99F in 308 to replace it. I hope it shoots as well. I would love to get a new miroku built 71. Other miroku built rifles have served me well and a new 71 would be a great shooter. I have been hanging on to all my 348 ammo in hopes I can get another 71. Congratulations to you on your fine rifles, I hope you have some great hunting experiences with them.
IMO, the two strongest lever actions ever built right there. I do agree that the Savage is quicker to the shoulder, points like a laser pen, and just seems to instinctively line up. Might be the slight difference in the drop, can't say for sure, but I love that rifle.
Stronger than the legendary 336? 1895? Or a "modern" Henry H024 side gates? They're noted as taking hot, hot loads that the people who re-load AND knowing load beyond limits and give us all a bad rap. But the henrys as far as I know have been well known to take the same is not hotter loads. But not apples to apples..... That's where I am assuming you mean for available rifles in 348
Blr has been chambered in 300win mag and 7mm rem mag, 336 not even close, m95 yes, but its heavy and cumbersome. The savage 99 is a great rifle but chambered in .358win it's pretty valuable so I wouldn't hunt it hard. My Blr light weight chambered in .358win is accurate and very handy, love it!
@@frankgulla8782 👍 correct. The action on the 336/Henry with the round bolt isn't exactly apples to apples, but for a true tubular lever gun they're noted as being dam strong man. I have legitimately zero hands on time with a BLR in 7mm and other more modern ammo so I appreciate the time to answer. Does the BLR action remain the same or does it scale up or down depending on the round?
@@johnserrano9689 no, the action is the same, just long and short actions ,the BLR has a rotating bolt and rack and pinion lever mechanism, basically it's a bolt action but the rack and pinion does not have the same camming force as a bolt. If you hand load too hot the case will stick more in the chamber. Thanks for your reply, I really love lever actions as they are truly an American invention and really cool.
I purchased a Ruger American in 358 Winchester this year. Ruger made a special run of these (400), and the price $399.00 out the door. Speaking of door... on my out the door of the gun shop... I seen an older model Bushnell 1.5x4.5... so I picked it up for $29.99. After my range check... I am amazed by not only the half inch group at 100 yards with Buffalo Bore ammo... but also the recoil is less than a 30-06 :)
Just revisited this video cause it showed up on my feed.. I seen that I was unsubscribed and had no idea how that happened! Anyways.. I'm sure that I missed a ton of your videos.. always love your information! I too am a believer in BIG and SLOW bullets for woods hunting! Zero to 200 yards is where most game is taken and this cartridge fits the mold perfectly! Especially for black bear! Thanks again for sharing this brother
I have a BLR 358 Win so I'm biased on which one to keep ;) never handled a Savage 99 so can't help there. Glad I don't have to decide which one lol. Of course you could keep both especially if you end up with somewhat different loads for each one.
I have become very interested in the .358 Winchester. I fell in love with the 35 Whelen and I believe opening the throat out to .358 caliber from .308 really does something positive. I think it does the same thing for the .308.
I hunted with the savage 99 in .358 Winchester, in the early 1970's . heavy hitting 200 grain round nose bullet . If I could find a nice Savage 99 in .358 without a head space issue, I'd buy it . And, the 99 has a longer barrel than the Browning . The 200 grain may seem slow, but you could shoot through a 9 inch tree and kill the deer behind it .
I had a blr in 358 Winchester. Quality rifle smooth action short 20-in Barrel lightweight. A 250 gr. bullet with the energy of a 30-06 great elk rifle. easy rifle to pack.
I've been a fan of the 99 since my single digits. They have such unique charismatic lines. I understand the BLR is a functionally superb gun but man they are misshapen things. They look like Pablo Picasso designed their lines. Take the 99. I have the same Model F as yours is here, gold-trigger and all, but a few years older, a '61. Also a '53 R with incredible walnut. I've had a couple of EG's over the years. I shoot 'em with peeps or ghostrings. Thanks for the vid, you have good taste in guns.
I hear you about the 88. I saw one at a gun show on the weekend with gorgeous dark figured walnut and the hand checkering, what a beautiful rifle. Asking $1300. I've read reviews of 'em and i think the 99 is a better rifle overall based on those reviews. I've heard the trigger is not good on the 88 and that they kick hard for calibre. But those 88's draw the eye for sure.
I got to shoot a friends BLR a few weeks ago, what a shooter. For my needs the 358 is just so versatile. For myself and possibly many others I think it could be a one gun does all deal. With the exception of varmints... But it would work I guess. Lol! I enjoy your videos.
Very nice 👍. I like the 99. I see a lot of the early 1899s with a tang sight that I think is factory or maybe very popular in that period. I would like to find one in 300 savage with the tang sight. I used to think they look very odd and unattractive but the look has grown on me and now they look elegant and sleek. What is your opinion on the 300 savage? Thanks for sharing 👍
Have you ever tried 200gr cast bullets in them? I have the 200 gr rcbs gas check bullets.. I have been running them in my 357 686 and marlin 1894c with excellent results and I am contemplating trying them in my 358 norma magnum.
Doesnt the Savage have a 2" longer barrel then the BLR? If so I would consider that a plus. I had a BLR in 358 but I let er go in favor of my 35 Whelen. I think if I had your 99 I would consider it a keeper though. A good dilemma to have.
I wonder what the rate of twist in these heavier calibre savages is. In most of their guns it's 1-in-12 which i've read is only enough to truly stabilize a 150 grain bullet, at least in the .300 savage. Though i've taken my share of game with 180 grainers in the .300, so maybe it only really matters on the range if you're getting picky.
i at one point owned both but I just never like the idea that I really "shouldn't" or rather didn't feel comfortable taking the BLR down should I ever need to.
You ever load up and light loads with 357 bullets? I wanna load up about 20 for small game or grouse. I love my .358, it's a custom mauser build I bought off my grandpa. It is 5 1/2 lbs with irons. I can kill anything with it here in North Idaho. Thanks for the videos!
I love those old Weaver K series scopes. I have one just like the one on the Savage rifle. It's on what I call my pole gun. A 7x57 rifle my father made when he was in a gun smithing school. I say pole gun because the timber is Lodge Pole Pine and pretty dense. A high power scope isn't necessary or helpful. Nothing matches the clarity and field of vision of those scopes. I have others without the post and crosshair.
Nice pair of rifles. I really do believe in the medium bores. But they don't really begin to show their stuff until the game gets heavier and tougher than deer.
@@north61 I would hunt deer with a .358 as I have a .348. But both of those cartridges are really intended for bigger critters. Winchester didn't need to build a better deer rifle in either case. They obviously had something bigger in mind with both of them.
I collect lever actions, savage 99 and marlins I have a few BLR rifles also,but for Rugged hunting il take the savage 99 every time, browning is more for the guy that sits in a stand hunts maybe 1 week a year,but savage and marlin are for every day hunting and work
I've got an steel receiver BLR 81 in 308win. I've thought about reboring it to 338 Federal or maybe 358win but then I get thinking just leave it alone. What do you think? Is it worth the jump from 308win to an larger bore?
I Love My BLR Any chance you have done a complete field strip for deep cleaning? Thinking of doing abit of a project with it, redo the stock (i have an orange came/black tiger straps somewhere :p, blue or something with the barrel/action
Not really I lever it really slow and at an angle so I don't have to chase the brass. Operated normally it snaps them out pretty well. Look at the off-hand work at 1:40 or so.
@@north61 The Savage action is smooth, but it does have a hesitation cocking the hammer spring at the bottom of the lever stroke. If you're not used to it, it can seem sticky. Owners will push right through and the brass will fly out with perfect consistency.
Beautiful rifles, Man! I would keep them both if possible. May I recommend Western Ramshot TAC? Works great in my 35 Remington with 200 grain cast bullets. Thanks for sharing!
I once owned a .308 Browning BLR made in Belgium. Now I own a SAVAGE 99 C i .308. The BLR has the strongest action, to my surprise. I thought the "falling block" action of the Savage would be just as strong but nope! Both rifles have barrels that are too thin, IMHO.
For me it’s the 99 all the way!!!!! The blr in theory has a stronger action cuz of front locking and should be more accurate. In reality I’ve never heard of a 99 blowing up and mine is very accurate for a pencil barreled rear locking two piece stock rifle. Moa capable. The 99 looks better, feels more natural in the hands to me, and cycles much easier.
I also should add I find the lever loop of the 99 much more comfortable for my big-ish hands. The blr I’ve shot was less accommodating, especially hunting in winter when I’d prefer to keep gloves on
@@north61 I’ve sold a blr and a win model 88, both 308, but 99 in .243 is never ever leaving. Probably gonna be the first hunting rifle for my kids when they’re older
Good show and tell video but "vs" video ok not detail in my opinion. Savage 99 is underrated its a tack driver considering its age. Well designed on both
@@north61 my system for shit and giggles I bench rest both same ammo same barrel length collect groups results then chronograph. Maybe features and functionality pro cons etc...
@@north61 I own 1 B BLR 308 Win and 3 Savage 99 in 300 Savage 1 in 308 Wing scope and iron sights just no health do enjoy it these days. Keep busy and best wishes on your shooting journey
People in my neck of the woods use the o. I go either way. The more people try to change my regional accent the more I want to exaggerate it! CREEEEK, SLOOOOUGH, ROOOOF, ABOOOOT.... HornaDAY, LEEEEVer, ok,there I am done.
I have a 1961 Savage 99-F 358 and I absolutely love it. I couple my 358 with a Weaver K4 scope and the stopping power and accuracy is astonishing. I keep it in absolutely beautiful condition and fire it at the range twice a year
I got the exact same one. 1961 99F. Its my most valuable rifle. Inherited it from my wife's grandfather. Its my go to now for elk and deer instead of my old Remington 30-06. Cheers!
Good luck!
KEEP THE SAVAGE!!! MUCH MORE CLASS!!! 😉😁 Honestly as nice as the blr is, I like the 99 better.
I grew up shooting a Savage 99 and found one of my own several years ago. My grandfather and I used to go hunting with our matched 99’s. Both of them were chambered in 308. Mine sports a 3-9x scope. The trigger isn’t great but it’s a dandy rifle none the less.
As Much as I Love Brownings I’d Have To Pick The Savage 99 😀😮😊
Now that I’m back in from hunting I can hear what you actually said, instead of watching the video on silent, those are really nice guns it’s a crying shame that savage quit making that 99, the new BLR are a little lighter because their aluminum receiver
Yup..this BLR is a steel receiver style. Probably adds 6-8 oz.
I just bought the Browning & can’t wait too try it out. I’d love the Winn 88 in the 358 but their very expensive.
Among the many "failures of judgement" I've made, regarding firearms, was NOT purchasing a NRA Excellent '99 in .303 Savage back in 2018. It would have made a great "middle gun" that fell between my "E" in .308 and my "E" in .250-3000. Maybe I'll get lucky and find another one that I can afford....But in the meantime I'm waiting for the current "lock down" situation to clear up so I can pick up a very, very nice BLR in 7mm Magnum that a friend of mine is holding onto for me at his shop....By the way, I've been kind of surprised at how, relatively speaking, cheap used BLRs are priced of late regardless of chambering. But then cheap is me and lever guns are the way I roll when it comes to hunting.
Check out the R's. They are really handsome 99's. Should be able to find one in .300 Savage at least, which is easier to obtain ammo for than the .303 Savage. They came in .308 too, but those are scarce.
Love your videos! I have a BLR lightweight takedown in 308, I shot my first bear with it in BC this spring.
Keep them both! If one absolutely had to go, keep that Savage. It's more collectible than the BLR, and that's coming from someone w/an old-school, BLR .358 (non-flush magazine).
My gosh, Yukon, you really know how to blow air up my skirt shooting the Model 99 in .358 Win. Beautiful rifle and beautiful round. I agree about bullet weight. I wouldn't go above a 225 gr. Load development is always fun and many.times frustrating. Of course I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. Thanks for the comparisons. Keep shooting, Brother.
I have ordered some 220 grain Speers. That was my favourite bullet from the 90's and I suspect it will still work pretty well.
Dang Bro, I am definitely jealous! Huge 99 fan here. While I have been contemplating getting a BLR in .358 I wish that the 99 was still in production in ANY caliber. You are a lucky guy and take good care of both rifles and they will take good care of you!!!!
Probably selling the BLR...I'll keep the 99.
@@north61 I would DEFINITELY keep the 99!
I just bought a new BLR in 308 and the first 5 shots of new ammo only 2 went off. light primer strikes. doing some research online Thousands people with the same issue. I got 3 answers. Grease in the bolt assembly , Timing issue, or head space issue. One guy said to take the stock off and soak the action in some kind of solvent for 24 hrs then blow it out with air gun. not what I want to do with a brand new gun. So I used some carb cleaner and a air hose. Still having misfires. I loaded 5 empty casings with federal 210 primers 4 went off. loaded 5 with WLR primers only 3 went off. 5 with CCI 200 and 250's none went off.. very little dent in the primer. The hammer hits the back of the bolt face and stops and the firing pin still has to travel another 1/8 of an inch before it touches the primer, I don't know how any rounds go off ? no solid contact between the hammer firing pin and the primer. I put all the casings that didn't go off in the BLR in my rem 700 bolt gun and they all went off no problem ... Put the BLR in my chest freezer overnight the first 6 factory shells didn't go off the 7th one did. Iv been reloading for close to 50 yrs and never seen anything like this. Don't trust this gun for anything its junk. This is the only brand new gun out hundreds that I had to spend days trying to get it to fire every time, Still cant figure it out. Its going back..
I don't think it's a regular issue. You could try Warranty and see if they can fix it... that being said I think the BLR is overly complex and a bit fragile. I sold mine and kept the 99.
Another great video. I first found your channel awhile back when looking for something on the .348, having recently acquired one of the newer Miroku built Model 71's (took it hunting this year and managed to bag a very nice mulie with it with the 200 grain Hornady over IMR4350). It appears our tastes in hunting arms are quite similar - I am also a fan of the old Model 99. Mine is an early 1950's built example in .300 Savage. One of the nicest carrying rifles I own - as you say, its ergonomics are wonderful. It's the one I carry when I know I will be walking awhile. Mine has no scope, predating when they were factory drilled and tapped, and I don't want to alter it. So it wears the old Marble's "Game Getter" tang mounted peep. Oh, and as far as scopes - I have three of those wonderful little Leupold 1.5-4x, one on a M70 in .375 H&H, one on a Ruger #1 in 6.5 Swede, and one on another M70 in .30-'06. Best hunting scope I have ever found. Y'know, I'm starting to wonder if we're not distant cousins or something... ;-) Keep up the good work.
Thanks Cuz!
I had some 99's and an original 71. Life took them away from me. I particularly was missing a 99C in 308. I recently picked up a 99F in 308 to replace it. I hope it shoots as well. I would love to get a new miroku built 71. Other miroku built rifles have served me well and a new 71 would be a great shooter. I have been hanging on to all my 348 ammo in hopes I can get another 71. Congratulations to you on your fine rifles, I hope you have some great hunting experiences with them.
IMO, the two strongest lever actions ever built right there. I do agree that the Savage is quicker to the shoulder, points like a laser pen, and just seems to instinctively line up. Might be the slight difference in the drop, can't say for sure, but I love that rifle.
Stronger than the legendary 336? 1895? Or a "modern" Henry H024 side gates? They're noted as taking hot, hot loads that the people who re-load AND knowing load beyond limits and give us all a bad rap. But the henrys as far as I know have been well known to take the same is not hotter loads. But not apples to apples.....
That's where I am assuming you mean for available rifles in 348
Forgot to add I sure do wish very hard I had a damn 99. They're not legitimately respected/well known by our Gas operated friends
Blr has been chambered in 300win mag and 7mm rem mag, 336 not even close, m95 yes, but its heavy and cumbersome. The savage 99 is a great rifle but chambered in .358win it's pretty valuable so I wouldn't hunt it hard. My Blr light weight chambered in .358win is accurate and very handy, love it!
@@frankgulla8782 👍 correct. The action on the 336/Henry with the round bolt isn't exactly apples to apples, but for a true tubular lever gun they're noted as being dam strong man. I have legitimately zero hands on time with a BLR in 7mm and other more modern ammo so I appreciate the time to answer.
Does the BLR action remain the same or does it scale up or down depending on the round?
@@johnserrano9689 no, the action is the same, just long and short actions ,the BLR has a rotating bolt and rack and pinion lever mechanism, basically it's a bolt action but the rack and pinion does not have the same camming force as a bolt. If you hand load too hot the case will stick more in the chamber. Thanks for your reply, I really love lever actions as they are truly an American invention and really cool.
I purchased a Ruger American in 358 Winchester this year. Ruger made a special run of these (400), and the price $399.00 out the door.
Speaking of door... on my out the door of the gun shop... I seen an older model Bushnell 1.5x4.5... so I picked it up for $29.99.
After my range check... I am amazed by not only the half inch group at 100 yards with Buffalo Bore ammo... but also the recoil is less than a 30-06 :)
Prophet River imported some of these to Canada but I think they were over 700.00.
Wow... that's a big difference!
I'd love to shoot your two... great looking rifles... and the savage is a jem!
Just revisited this video cause it showed up on my feed.. I seen that I was unsubscribed and had no idea how that happened!
Anyways.. I'm sure that I missed a ton of your videos.. always love your information! I too am a believer in BIG and SLOW bullets for woods hunting!
Zero to 200 yards is where most game is taken and this cartridge fits the mold perfectly! Especially for black bear!
Thanks again for sharing this brother
I have a BLR 358 Win so I'm biased on which one to keep ;) never handled a Savage 99 so can't help there. Glad I don't have to decide which one lol. Of course you could keep both especially if you end up with somewhat different loads for each one.
the 99 would be my choice too. the very definition of "classic". I would be happy with either though.
I have become very interested in the .358 Winchester. I fell in love with the 35 Whelen and I believe opening the throat out to .358 caliber from .308 really does something positive. I think it does the same thing for the .308.
I hunted with the savage 99 in .358 Winchester, in the early 1970's . heavy hitting 200 grain round nose bullet . If I could find a nice Savage 99 in .358 without a head space issue, I'd buy it . And, the 99 has a longer barrel than the Browning . The 200 grain may seem slow, but you could shoot through a 9 inch tree and kill the deer behind it .
Yes..it's a handy unit. I might just sell the Browning.
I've got a custom built. 358 winchester on a VZ 24 mauser action. I've been looking for one in a Savage 99 for years, and I haven't found one yet.
I had a blr in 358 Winchester. Quality rifle smooth action short 20-in Barrel lightweight. A 250 gr. bullet with the energy of a 30-06 great elk rifle. easy rifle to pack.
Great looking rifles, I like them both. I kind of favor that 99 though, always liked the feel of them.
I've been a fan of the 99 since my single digits. They have such unique charismatic lines. I understand the BLR is a functionally superb gun but man they are misshapen things. They look like Pablo Picasso designed their lines. Take the 99. I have the same Model F as yours is here, gold-trigger and all, but a few years older, a '61. Also a '53 R with incredible walnut. I've had a couple of EG's over the years. I shoot 'em with peeps or ghostrings. Thanks for the vid, you have good taste in guns.
That Savage just looks right.
But you need an '88 and a Finnwolf to complete the set.
Might need to get a divorce if I buy another 358!
@@north61 maybe in a few years when she's not looking ;-)
@@north61 An old timer once told me: Son, you take an empty case with you to the gunshow.......
I hear you about the 88. I saw one at a gun show on the weekend with gorgeous dark figured walnut and the hand checkering, what a beautiful rifle. Asking $1300. I've read reviews of 'em and i think the 99 is a better rifle overall based on those reviews. I've heard the trigger is not good on the 88 and that they kick hard for calibre. But those 88's draw the eye for sure.
interesting video!! The 99 is such a nicely engineered rifle!! Every time I here gun shot at the range during the day I think it might be you!!
You never know! The range is getting so busy it's hard to pick a time when I can be there by myself!
I got to shoot a friends BLR a few weeks ago, what a shooter. For my needs the 358 is just so versatile. For myself and possibly many others I think it could be a one gun does all deal. With the exception of varmints... But it would work I guess. Lol! I enjoy your videos.
Very nice 👍. I like the 99. I see a lot of the early 1899s with a tang sight that I think is factory or maybe very popular in that period. I would like to find one in 300 savage with the tang sight. I used to think they look very odd and unattractive but the look has grown on me and now they look elegant and sleek. What is your opinion on the 300 savage? Thanks for sharing 👍
300 savage is a fine little cartridge. Deer to moose with good bullets!
@@north61 Excellent! I would be using it for deer and hogs. Have you ever loaded for it? I read it is just short of 308. Thanks again 👍
@@brianlee6849 Never loaded for it but the 307 Win is basically the same thing. I'd try Varget, and 165 Hornady Spire Points.
@@north61 Ok Thank you
My 99 in 358 is fitted with a receiver sight….point and shoot!
Have you ever tried 200gr cast bullets in them?
I have the 200 gr rcbs gas check bullets.. I have been running them in my 357 686 and marlin 1894c with excellent results and I am contemplating trying them in my 358 norma magnum.
Doesnt the Savage have a 2" longer barrel then the BLR? If so I would consider that a plus. I had a BLR in 358 but I let er go in favor of my 35 Whelen. I think if I had your 99 I would consider it a keeper though. A good dilemma to have.
Selling the BLR..I'll keep the Savage.
@@north61 Good call. I also had a 99 in 300 Savage that I let go. Those 358 99's are rare and valuable though. I would love to have one.
I wonder what the rate of twist in these heavier calibre savages is. In most of their guns it's 1-in-12 which i've read is only enough to truly stabilize a 150 grain bullet, at least in the .300 savage. Though i've taken my share of game with 180 grainers in the .300, so maybe it only really matters on the range if you're getting picky.
😲 I just got a blr 358 and my family is from pond was so surprised!! Ordered the 250gr for the beluga/Narwal season
Sorry Darcy, I missed your comment. How did the 250 grain bullets work out for you? I loved Pond Inlet..someday I'll visit if Covid ever goes away.
I have a Browning BLR chambered in 270! It's one if not thee best rifle I've ever owned!
Both good but the 99 is absolutely great. Sold all my BLRs but kept my 99s.
I love the thin profile of the blr and similar lever guns
i at one point owned both but I just never like the idea that I really "shouldn't" or rather didn't feel comfortable taking the BLR down should I ever need to.
You ever load up and light loads with 357 bullets? I wanna load up about 20 for small game or grouse. I love my .358, it's a custom mauser build I bought off my grandpa. It is 5 1/2 lbs with irons. I can kill anything with it here in North Idaho. Thanks for the videos!
I have done so but find full power loads in the head or neck are less fiddly and hit to point of aim, while still keeping meat intact.
I love those old Weaver K series scopes. I have one just like the one on the Savage rifle. It's on what I call my pole gun. A 7x57 rifle my father made when he was in a gun smithing school. I say pole gun because the timber is Lodge Pole Pine and pretty dense. A high power scope isn't necessary or helpful. Nothing matches the clarity and field of vision of those scopes. I have others without the post and crosshair.
Nice pair of rifles. I really do believe in the medium bores. But they don't really begin to show their stuff until the game gets heavier and tougher than deer.
I have taken the 358 Moose hunting and it comes into it's own with bigger game.
@@north61 I would hunt deer with a .358 as I have a .348. But both of those cartridges are really intended for bigger critters. Winchester didn't need to build a better deer rifle in either case. They obviously had something bigger in mind with both of them.
Two great rifles and caliber. Seemed that the 99 had more recoil. 👍🏻
It has more drop in the stock, so rocks up a bit more.
Browning now offers the BLR with a pistol grip.
Yes they do and they are nice, I would like to have one myself, but the 99 is nicer.
.35 caliber cartridges are so boss.
.35 rem, .358 win, .358 whelen
love em
356 win too
I collect lever actions, savage 99 and marlins I have a few BLR rifles also,but for Rugged hunting il take the savage 99 every time, browning is more for the guy that sits in a stand hunts maybe 1 week a year,but savage and marlin are for every day hunting and work
I've got an steel receiver BLR 81 in 308win. I've thought about reboring it to 338 Federal or maybe 358win but then I get thinking just leave it alone. What do you think? Is it worth the jump from 308win to an larger bore?
If you want to hunt moose or bear...Otherwise the 308 is a better round IMO.
I Love My BLR
Any chance you have done a complete field strip for deep cleaning?
Thinking of doing abit of a project with it, redo the stock (i have an orange came/black tiger straps somewhere :p, blue or something with the barrel/action
Haven't done a great cleaning yet. Took a bit of copper out of both.
The pistol grip on the Savage 99 should make the gun more comfortable to shoot.
Ohhh, tough call. 99 gets the nod but dang!
Nice to have such problems eh?
I have tosay I'd choose the Savage , I have an earlier model in .300 Savage (early 50's)that still shoots sub moa with factory Remington ammunition.
I still have the savage. It's a great combo!
I've had good luck with H4895 powder in my 358 BLR
I'd have to keep both😁!!!
So far I have!
For bear defense how confident would you feel with a .358 win. loaded with 310 grain Woodleighs?
It's fantastic. At 2100fps that bullet would shoot through any bear at all.
Do they ever got loading gates on these standard magazine cartridges, I like the 358 but I like The potential to run and gun
The Big Bore 94 in 356 might be your huckleberry.
@@north61 …tube magazines only, gotcha
1:30 Looks like the Savage has a little trouble clearing the spent brass sometimes.
Not really I lever it really slow and at an angle so I don't have to chase the brass. Operated normally it snaps them out pretty well. Look at the off-hand work at 1:40 or so.
@@north61 The Savage action is smooth, but it does have a hesitation cocking the hammer spring at the bottom of the lever stroke. If you're not used to it, it can seem sticky. Owners will push right through and the brass will fly out with perfect consistency.
Savage 99 for me because of pistol grip. Did you decode the date code on it? Trade for my 1918 Lee Enfield No. 1 Mk3*?
Only id it has full wood stock
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 It does.
Beautiful rifles, Man! I would keep them both if possible. May I recommend Western Ramshot TAC? Works great in my 35 Remington with 200 grain cast bullets. Thanks for sharing!
I will keep them both at least until they are well wrung out.
@@north61 good idea!! You can't have too many, both nice rifles.
I wish this was a common AR-10 cartridge!!! I want a bear AR without going to a custom .30-06 mag well.
I once owned a .308 Browning BLR made in Belgium. Now I own a SAVAGE 99 C i .308.
The BLR has the strongest action, to my surprise. I thought the "falling block" action of the Savage would be just as strong but nope! Both rifles have barrels that are too thin, IMHO.
I have an early 99 Featherweight .358 and have to reload for it. Box Winchester ammo is like a shotgun.
I found the Hornady factory didn't shoot that well in mine either. 225 Sierras and BLC2 seems to be doing nicely.
@@north61 Have not used mine to hunt in years and would have to look what I loaded. I do know they were Hornady.
I would think the challenge is in finding 358 ammo
Not when you reload!
For me it’s the 99 all the way!!!!!
The blr in theory has a stronger action cuz of front locking and should be more accurate. In reality I’ve never heard of a 99 blowing up and mine is very accurate for a pencil barreled rear locking two piece stock rifle. Moa capable.
The 99 looks better, feels more natural in the hands to me, and cycles much easier.
I also should add I find the lever loop of the 99 much more comfortable for my big-ish hands. The blr I’ve shot was less accommodating, especially hunting in winter when I’d prefer to keep gloves on
@@roadkillanonymous4807 Well I must agree with you as the BLR is sold and I still have the 99.
@@north61 I’ve sold a blr and a win model 88, both 308, but 99 in .243 is never ever leaving. Probably gonna be the first hunting rifle for my kids when they’re older
Both nice rifles. After watching, it appears the Savage has more recoil.
The Savage is without a doubt lighter,which is why I enjoy carrying it.3 of the last 4 bucks I downed were 1 shot kills.The 4th was taken with an 06
A real hunter would use a 358 Winchester. Savage 99 is the real deal in a world of plastic and small bore wiz kids high BC bullets
Any reason why you don't hold the front of the stock ? Muzzle jump in quite evident.
I try different methods of bench technique. This free recoil method seems to give good group generally.
Both are great
Have both rifles, hunt with BLR most due to weight
Savage is a beauty
Sold the Browning 358..Sold the Savage99F 308 Still have the Savage 99F 358.
Luv my 1915 99 savage 😁
BLR
how do you like 358 winchester
It's hard to beat in a short action!
I’d like a Win 88 in 358
Freezer filler rifles - nice ! !
I've got a bunch of .358 Win. Brass and bullets if anyone is interested. 6/13/21
Are you in Canada or the US?
@@north61 Kansas, as American as it gets.
@@ditchdigger93 My Grand-dad was a dry-land farmer from North Dakota who moved up from Saskatchewan in 1904.
Good show and tell video but "vs" video ok not detail in my opinion. Savage 99 is underrated its a tack driver considering its age. Well designed on both
Good point..it was more of a first impressions of both firearms video.
@@north61 my system for shit and giggles I bench rest both same ammo same barrel length collect groups results then chronograph. Maybe features and functionality pro cons etc...
@@1911geek I might give it a whirl as this seems to have garnered some interest.
@@north61 I own 1 B BLR 308 Win and 3 Savage 99 in 300 Savage 1 in 308 Wing scope and iron sights just no health do enjoy it these days. Keep busy and best wishes on your shooting journey
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Nice...which one of these do you prefer?
NORTH61 DON'T FALL INTO THE POOL, PRONOUNCED LU-POLD NOT LEO-POLD, THERE IS NO O IN PLACE OF U IN LEUPOLD!
People in my neck of the woods use the o. I go either way. The more people try to change my regional accent the more I want to exaggerate it! CREEEEK, SLOOOOUGH, ROOOOF, ABOOOOT.... HornaDAY, LEEEEVer, ok,there I am done.
Tikka t3 CTR IN 358 Win
For the win …!
My ruger 77 hawkeye outshoots both of them by a bunch.