Patching With Maths - Envelopes, LFOs, Offset, Attenuation, Rachets, Clocking, Generative Sequences
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2023
- Should you buy Make Noise Maths as a beginner. Check out these patching examples and exercises to see what Maths can do.
Make Noise Maths is a quintessential eurorack module many consider to be one of the best. It certainly has a great reputation! But it can be very intimidating for beginners. It has an unconventional layout and cryptic labeling. It's not always clear what it's doing or how to use it.
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Dude. The this one and the previous one are really good. Thank you, the previous one was perhaps a best visual representation of what Maths does
Thanks! Glad you like it. I've got an outline for another Maths video! I'm hoping to have it up in the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned! :)
Maybe the best Maths video that I have seen.
That's quite a compliment! Thanks so much. I appreciate it.
You are helping me more than you know homie!!!
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know. Glad it was helpful. :)
Mr Braintree .. thanks for sharing your thoughts/journey. It is sort of complicated, isn't it, .. in a fun way.
finally a basic tutorail without unlimited freakout patches = ) got my math today....you helped me a lot : *
Thanks! Yeah, that was goal going into this. There are so many things you can do with Maths, but I find that just using it for basic stuff is the best way to really understand what's going on under the hood...
Great video! Really well-explained and entertaining too. The only correction I would make is that, with extreme PWM, the waveforms don’t cancel each other out, rather the pulse waves become so thin that they never cross 0, and are therefore silent.
Yes! Thanks for the clarification.
nice tutorial!
Thanks!
First off, thanks for these videos.
I am beginner and have a Maths in my rack. Never used it for months until now. After poking around your channel, your content is very easy to understand for this rookie getting into Synth and Eurorack. Keep up the good work.
Awesome! Thanks so much for letting me know. Are there other modules you'd be interested in seeing videos on? Always curious what people have and are interested in seeing.
@@braintree56 As a beginner, I am having trouble with sequencing with quantizing and used with clocks and clock dividers. All so much to get head wrapped around at once. I have many sequencers, Intellijel Metropolix, Mother 32, Berhinger 960, Tip Top Buchla 245T. Plus Addac Quantizer. For clocks I have Pam’s Pro workout and 4MS Quad clock distributor.
Excellent video man! I really liked the ‘ratchet’ function using the cycle on/off input. I’ll be having a play around with that idea later. I love using the Sum out into a quantiser but also incorporating the cycling channels very subtly as well… It allows you to ‘play’ the functions, if that makes sense. Nice one dude!
Oh yeah that makes sense! Great idea...
How cool is that? I started exactly like you and bought Maths yesterday 😄 great video 👍
Sweet! Check out my other video on Maths too. I did that one after this one when I received a lot of questions. It's more thorough.
Yesterday night, I was using Pamela's New Workout as a quantizer for my own generative experiment and threw the resulting "what should be VCO-input" into my Waveform scope; saw the same result you did in your video at 14 min or so. Should be "fixable" with Maths tomorrow. Thank you for the hints and ideas- subbed your Patreon@L3. :)
Awesome! Thanks so much for signing up. :) Hit me up on Patreon if you have any questions or anything.
Informative as always. I look forward to many more of your excellent videos. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks.
All too often folks demo Maths and other Function Gen modules without understanding what it can mean to be a beginner - context.
The approach you took here was spot on!
Videos that bang on about this subject with or without mordax don't help me...
Now I'm starting to get these principles I'm thinking to get ADDAC 506 cause its got that lovely random feature and everything on all 4 ch.
Really good. You and Monotrail are for me the guys that really nailed these concepts in my brain. Thank you!
That's quite a compliment to me! I have a tremendous respect for Monotrail and to be held in the same regard as him is very flattering to me... :) Thank you!
@@braintree56 my pleasure - I just love it when someone explains things the way my neurodiverse lil brain "gets". Thank you!!
@@LordoftheBadgers Hey did you end up getting that Addac 506? I'm looking at function generators right now and torn between that and the Falistri.
@@wrenchposting9097 no not yet due to various unrelated reasons but it's still high, nay, number one on my list
I could add after later audio qarv too at a pinch... I think cause the four vcas make it attractive.
The falistri I know is amazing but I need to research :)
@@LordoftheBadgers I'll let you know if I end up with one of the two before you!
Thanks so much for the shout-out :)
Thank YOU! I love your channel! :)
Thank you! Good video on Maths! Really enjoyed it!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful.
What a very useful video!
Thank you so much!
Thanks!
Amazing vid. I've done similar journey and have been toying with whether I'm ready for Maths. Time to hit ebay. Cheers.
Super vidéo !!!
Great video, thanks for making and sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent tutorial. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.😃👍🏻👍🏻
My pleasure!
Nice video. You should try and use it as a sub-harmonic oscillator / frequency divider ;D
Great idea! There's just so much stuff to do with Maths. I should probably do a whole other video! :)
well explained, thank you
yup same here i learned a lot of the fundamentals of synthesis with the simple modules and as i gained knowledge and was confident about the complexity using posh modules and the extra cash it requires i now own a maths but still have the simple 3 wave vco and the miso also attenuators and quad vca etc my first multi module was my ES disting which i have 2 of these and my maths but the Pams new workout and my maths are now irreplaceable all hail the mighy king maths and queen Pam.
Yep. Pam's and Maths are definitely on my "never sell" list!
Good video but one question comes to mind. Ofcourse I understand that the visual input of the Mordax makes it easier to see what's happening but making sounds or music is foremost something for our ears and my question is; do you still use the mordax or do you use Maths just by ear now? I mean, when we play an instrument like piano, guitar or whatever we just listen and don't use a scope and I imagine that making sounds in eurorack is mostly a matter of using our ears. Is that a silly question or is my thinking a bit strange in this case?
Not a silly question. I just use my ears. The data can be great for learning what's going on under the hood of a module when learning it. I imagine it's similar to learning a piece of music by ear. If you're having trouble you might look at the sheet music for a visual representation of the music to make the connection. That doesn't mean you will have to look at the music forever and only be able to play music while reading music. It's all a part of learning. Make sense? (Perhaps a better example would be learning an instrument by reading music and learning notation as opposed to learning entirely be ear)
@@braintree56 Thanks, it makes sense what you say here.
Yes but show a patch with maths where it does two envelopes and four LFO's. Its a cool module but it can't do everything at once like individual modules would.
100% that's the downside of these types of swiss army knife modules. I still like having it just because every now and then there are times where I want to do something very specific.
This critique misses the point of the module. Maths is the ultimate +1 to any rack or patch because once you've exhausted your dedicated modules, you have it available to do anything you need it to. Remember it's a utility, not just an EG/LFO/mixer/etc - Maths earns its place by being a chameleon, not a CV hose. You can fit Batumi + Zadar in the space of 1 Maths if you like but these are different categories of modules entirely. They're each workhorses but the shapeshifting nature of Maths and its peculiarities (happy accidents) are why it sits on a throne. That it leans further into the historical side of modular synthesis is also part of its charm, it's simply rewarding to use in ways that a quad module isn't. It's just the nature of being handed ingredients to cook with instead of an already-prepared side dish. No wrong preferences of course, we're building our own custom instruments here :)
@@azulmago No I don't think I'm missing the point. As I said Maths is a very cool module. The point I was making is that Maths doesn't replace individual modules or give you more than individual modules would. But the way its often portrayed would have one believe its like a super computer for modular that does way more than anything else.
The thing I love about Doepfer products is they are cheap and are immaculate quality. The Dieter Doepfer is the grand dad of modular and the quality of his products is a sign he really cares.
Totally agree. I also like that they are very focused - knob per function and easy to learn and understand. I've been buying more and more of them.
I disagree. I’d call Doepfer the “father” of Eurorack, while people like Morton Subotnick and Don Buchla would be my “grandfathers” of modular.
Would you recommend a Maths module as a first buy, I’d be looking at running a Behringer Crave through it?
It really depends on what you feel you need. Maths will give you more options for modulation and greater control over modulation. If thats what you want - go for it!
Here's a video I did that gives some ideas on expanding the Mother 32 into Eurorack. (Maths is one of the modules)
ua-cam.com/video/sjpukLphkCQ/v-deo.html
@@braintree56 - Thank you! 🙂
Just realised I already watched this a ton of times and hadn’t liked it!
Ha! Thanks man! Appreciate the support. :)
I like your videos, but I’m seven minutes into this one and am totally distracted by the thought, “he’s got all that rack space on the right… why does he keep removing and re-installing modules?! Why? WHYYY??”