Chinese Carrier Group vs Russian Carrier Group (Naval Battle Vid 28) | DCS WORLD

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 375

  • @Iceman1123Trooper
    @Iceman1123Trooper 3 роки тому +13

    Hey Cap! This is James. I'm the person you mentioned at the beginning of the video. I just want to say that I was so shocked when I heard Megan's name I was stunned and couldn't move. When you said my name I was so happy I started to cry. I'm a huge fan of your videos they have helped me through my depression for a long time now. Thank you so, so much for taking the time to acknowledge Megan and I's anniversary! I cant express how appreciative Megan and I are that you mentioned us.
    I will say I'm a semi-active DCS user myself and I've done a few DCS videos (although they aren't that good in my opinion haha) I don't have the funds yet to acquire all the assets for DCS but I do have the Tomcat, Viper, Hornet, and FC3 modules. I'm one of the followers in your Discord server too. Honestly the only reason I haven't hopped into any of the voice channels yet is because I'm rather shy and I fear I'd be misunderstood I have high-functioning autism so I can be a little socially awkward at times without realizing.
    Hopefully I can muster up the bravery and courage to hop on one of your servers sometime! I'm seriously thinking about paying for the private training service your team offers so I can get proper training in DCS.
    Once again thank you so much for mentioning us in your video I'll never forget this. Hopefully I'll be able to catch you on one of your servers and say "hello." Alrighty that is all thank you so much. Apologies for such a long post. Take care SuperCap!
    Alias: Iceman1123Trooper
    Callsign: Iceman
    - James and Megan -

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks James! Remember Sundays 1800UTC are open to all. You don't really even need to speak if you don't want to :)

  • @khoipham8303
    @khoipham8303 3 роки тому +37

    "Hi Wong"
    "Hi Igor"
    2 ASM flying across each other on their ways to destroy ships.

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 3 роки тому +1

      "I see where you're going and going to see where you came from"
      Google translate:
      "Я вижу, куда вы идете, и посмотрю, откуда вы пришли"
      “我知道你要去哪里,也要看你从哪里来”

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +1

      lol

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 3 роки тому

      Ahhh theres a joke about going the Wong way in there somewhere... I can just feel it..

  • @ThePerfectOwnage
    @ThePerfectOwnage 3 роки тому +94

    Could it be possible you you to use a darker shade of blue for the "allied" team? The incoming ordnance is pretty hard to see on that aqua background.

    • @JulianDanzerHAL9001
      @JulianDanzerHAL9001 3 роки тому +3

      I'm not sure if it is, I think DCS just lets you make a blue and a red coalition

    • @danwebcralwer8671
      @danwebcralwer8671 3 роки тому +3

      Or he could turn on labels and that would make it easier to see

    • @JulianDanzerHAL9001
      @JulianDanzerHAL9001 3 роки тому

      @@danwebcralwer8671 that would probably work

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +21

      we only get these colours sorry :(

    • @lightbenderga2017
      @lightbenderga2017 3 роки тому

      100% agreed, I can barely see it on full brightness, might be bad eyes but I can’t make them out unless they’re flying over an island.

  • @lightbenderga2017
    @lightbenderga2017 3 роки тому +25

    Oh boy, you’re gonna have to redo the US group VS the RUS group now, AEGIS might get a run for its money with that new Salvo feature.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +5

      rgr

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 3 роки тому +1

      Yes I was able to completely wreck a CVBG in Command Modern Ops as well. just have to use Bearing only attacks if jammed... the AS4s have great surface such radar.
      Even in that so called "real" sim, the SPEED of the attack and the lethality of each individual missile is what makes it so punishing.
      1 leaker, 1 dead AEGIS cruiser... its all a matter of combined arms tactics with lots of stupidly fast missiles being very very effective .
      Offensive ECM is also more effective the faster the strike is moving, maybe because even a slight jamming window is more effective if the missile is moving fast.
      I just dont see a way around it , because each leaking missile is so deadly.
      The Russian and likely newer Chinese missiles are no joke. I dont doubt the US has a few that are good too, but nothing makes up for raw speed with a huge warhead.
      Terrifying is the only word I can think of when thinking about facing these things.

    • @doombringer3498
      @doombringer3498 3 роки тому

      aegis is useless vs russian hypersonic cruise missiles and probably only partially effective vs heavy supersonic missle salvo, so it will be more "drown" than 'run'. Maybe it'll be better to rely on submarines vs russian fleet.

    • @Struktualnyj
      @Struktualnyj 3 роки тому +1

      @@doombringer3498 USN have upper hand at long distance strikes using its naval aviation. So, optimally, any heavy AShM carrier should be destroyed beyond the maximal range of its missiles. Oscar class subs and sneaky Tu-22Ms are, probably, gonna be the hardest ones to detect and deal with before they could launch. Maybe it is the reason why Soviets build so many Oscar class SSGNs and Tu-22Ms. Kirov and Slava classes are not really intended to battle a CVBG by themselves, I would think. More like they intended to provide a safe area of operation and deployment for SSBNs and SSGNs. In other words, it seems to me, Soviet/Russian CVBG is not intended to oppose USN's CVBG directly, as SuperCap is demonstrating in his wonderfully entertaining videos. Ideally, USN CVBG would have been stalked by Oscar class SSGNs and followed closely by Sovremenniy class DDGs anywhere near Soviet Union's/Russia's borders, and backed up by Tu-22Ms if the need arise.

    • @doombringer3498
      @doombringer3498 3 роки тому

      @@Struktualnyj Guess you got partially wrong info about most russian heavy cruise missiles range. Wiki infopage contains range data based on export versions of russian ASCMs. According which russian missiles aint feature reach distance exceeding 400-500 miles. But irl original russia's "Kalibr" missile's range appeared to be at least 1100 miles. Tho USN aircraft operating range is only 600 miles in general (strike craft must to bear bombs and missiles, not external fuel tanks). Of course planes are able to refuel in-flight, but it's quite complicated, besides additional vulnerability during such ops.

  • @cshader2488
    @cshader2488 3 роки тому +39

    what a difference salvo-firing makes. Looking forward to the Russian v American fight again.

  • @maxliverpool
    @maxliverpool 3 роки тому +36

    If the Russian cruisers can salvo, can we see a repeat test of the Russian cruisers vs the US Carrier Group

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +24

      agree

    • @barela.4027
      @barela.4027 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers but put them bet farr away from ech other in open waters plz

    • @tomriley5790
      @tomriley5790 3 роки тому +3

      Don't worry about offending american's feelings :-)

    • @danspragens4935
      @danspragens4935 3 роки тому +3

      @@grimreapers Plus, now we know they can salvo, you need to make sure we don't miss the en-masse launch in the video.

    • @ajbridgewater
      @ajbridgewater 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers ​Wait until the tugboat mod come out so we can see the famous Russian naval chariot tactics in all if its Ben Hur glory.

  • @Davros-vi4qg
    @Davros-vi4qg 3 роки тому +14

    So the Brits invent the ski jump for VTOL aircraft, and use variable thrust for additional lift. Ruski’s ski jump = POWER!!!!

    • @jameshewitt8828
      @jameshewitt8828 3 роки тому +3

      YEEESSSS COMRADE

    • @captaindeliciouspants8315
      @captaindeliciouspants8315 3 роки тому

      PUTIN # 1
      PUTIN BEAT UP YOUR WHOLE FAMILY
      PUTIN BEAT UP YOU ENTIRE NAVY WITH 1 PUNCH AND 1 HAND TIED BEHIND BACK

    • @clangerbasher
      @clangerbasher 3 роки тому +1

      STOBAR is just inefficient when it comes to flight deck usage. STOVL isn't but limits you choices of aircraft. CTOL is still the best. I want to see a PLAN cbg fighting a RN cbg now. I don't think it would be good news for Team RN,

    • @ricardosmythe2548
      @ricardosmythe2548 3 роки тому +1

      @@clangerbasher the support ships would play a key role. China's tech is unproven at best across the board not to mention their fighter jets capability. The RN would wipe the floor with them

    • @clangerbasher
      @clangerbasher 3 роки тому

      @@ricardosmythe2548 Could well be. :)

  • @edilbertorivera3467
    @edilbertorivera3467 3 роки тому +5

    Actually base on Russia's Soviet design ship, if you take a look on it's shape. All it's attack king power is placed in the front and defense in the back. That's because they're strategy is not to go tow to tow with the massive US and NATO navies. They are desinged to discharge their payload unto US and NATO ships, turn away and then go back to port. Rearm and repeat. I mean look at Kirov. It's Granit is on it's front and it's dual purpose main gun is on it's back.

  • @Screamblade_
    @Screamblade_ 3 роки тому +19

    Could we get a replay of the Russian Salvo outside of Tacview?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +7

      Sorry I am a dummy and had TV turned off :(

    • @Screamblade_
      @Screamblade_ 3 роки тому +2

      @@grimreapers No problem :)
      Hope you are all staying safe though.

  • @roelhendrikx5818
    @roelhendrikx5818 3 роки тому +32

    Nice, its was like watching a deadly football match as how you presented it.

  • @HauntedXXXPancake
    @HauntedXXXPancake 3 роки тому +5

    I know the Chinese Carrier had its anti-ship missiles removed to make space for more Aircraft
    and I think I remember, that the Russians wanted to do the same with the Admiral Kuznetsov when
    it entered its ill-fated refit.
    Also: Russia has "only" two of the 4 Kirov-Class Battle-cruisers left: 'Peter the Great' that's in active service
    and the 'Admiral Nakhimov' that's currently undergoing a massive modernization program, expected to last until 2023.
    Finally: The Chinese have supersonic anti-ship missiles irl, so it's kinda 'meh' they only
    have the Harpoon-clones in DCS.

  • @PW060284
    @PW060284 3 роки тому +3

    Oh? The Chinese are paper tigers. Who would've thought?

    • @Jake-dh9qk
      @Jake-dh9qk 3 роки тому

      Yea China lost so many wars, unlike America who easily destroyed the Talibans and Vietcong.
      *if they wanted to, obviously if America stayed just 1 extra day longer they would've killed every single Taliban and all it took was just 20 years

    • @winbear7423
      @winbear7423 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jake-dh9qk Yea US lost so many wars, unlike China who easily destroyed the Japanese and Vietcong.

    • @Jake-dh9qk
      @Jake-dh9qk 2 роки тому

      @@winbear7423 1. US attacked Germany after allies did most of the work in both world wars.
      2. US attacked Japan after China did most of the work.
      3. US attacked Vietnam after they just finished a bloody war with France.
      4. US attacked Iraq when they are recovering from financial crisis won with the help of NATO alliance.
      The one time the US attacked an opponent head on, which was against the Chinese in the Korean war, they were on a constant retreat despite having superior firepower and similar number of manpower.

    • @winbear7423
      @winbear7423 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jake-dh9qk 1. World War I I admit it, but if you talk about World War 2 it shows that you have a problem with historical knowledge.
      2. China did nothing, because when its allies attacked, Japan was still very strong. The only thing the Chinese do is open their crotch for the Japanese to mate
      3. The US did not attack Vietnam, the US just poured troops into South Vietnam to prevent China's expansion.
      4. Iraq has been at war with Iran and some Middle Eastern countries before (well enough to understand how powerful they are), the Americans just came in to clean up the rest. Proof: In a certain battle, the US only lost 2 Abrams tanks, but Iraq lost hundreds of them (because the Iraqis fought very badly)
      And again when China attacked Vietnam, they vowed to teach Vietnam a lesson. But in the end, the only thing they could do was capture a few square kilometers and then announce their withdrawal before the Vietnamese sent their main force to the border.
      Is there anything more to say?

    • @winbear7423
      @winbear7423 2 роки тому

      @@Jake-dh9qk And you have nothing more to say right?

  • @warrior3614
    @warrior3614 3 роки тому +1

    Someone needs to fix the Kashtan in this DCS to fire missiles each Kashtan has 8 missiles 4 by 4 and capacity to reload 32 or 48 SAMs per Kashtan.

  • @Paul91415
    @Paul91415 3 роки тому +32

    I laughed at your predictions of how the chinese would win the naval part. Can't deny the russian AShM xD

    • @Struktualnyj
      @Struktualnyj 3 роки тому

      There is a reason China bought four Sovremenniy class Destroyers, equipped with Moskit AShMs. And I'm pretty sure it isn't the Sovremenniy class Destroyers.

    • @Phunny
      @Phunny 3 роки тому

      @@Struktualnyj They bought them because Chinese ships at the time were only armed with short-range SAMs on their ships, meaning they had zero ability to provide area air defense. The Pr. 956s carried naval Buks, making them the first and only PLAN ships at the time capable of medium-range air defense. They didn't buy them for the anti-ship missiles.

    • @Struktualnyj
      @Struktualnyj 3 роки тому

      ​@@Phunny If we are talking capabilities Chinese Navy lacked, I would place supersonic AShM higher on the list than midrange air-defense system. YJ-12, which is (I think) pretty much Chinese improved version of the Moskit, now have a ship, land and air launched variants. The Chinese Navy's Buk analogue is the HQ-16, which was developed with Russian assistance. I assume no Russian assistance was provided in development of Chinese supersonic anti-ship missiles. And buying whole systems just to get access to some key technologies is something China did quite a lot.
      So, I don't deny the pr. 956 acquisition had more goals then just one, but I do believe the procurement of the Moskit AShM with its systems was the main one. And the destroyer itself was an ugly duck (though I personally like its cold war looks very much), with its overpowered 2x2x130 mm guns, problems with powerplant design, relatively weak air-defense, and, if I'm not mistaken, less than optimal ASW capabilities. -As a concept, Sovremenniy class was designed to stalk and gun down CVBG at relatively close ranges, which is quite "unique" (or one may also say silly) of a purpose, and surely the one that wasn't desired by the Chinese Navy of 90's.-

    • @Phunny
      @Phunny 3 роки тому

      @@Struktualnyj This isn't about your list. This is about why the Chinese government actually bought the Pr. 956 destroyers. The reasoning behind this, purchases made after the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis, and subsequent naval and naval aviation developments are all well-documented in works from retired PLAN admirals. If you can read Chinese, it's something I would suggest you check out.
      China didn't widely implement supersonic ASMs onto warships until nearly twenty years after the acquisition of the destroyers as part of the ongoing PLA forces-wide modernization program. The YJ-12 was not developed from the Moskit. It's a ship-launched version of the YJ-91 which was reverse-engineered from the air-launched Kh-31P ARMs that China bought from Russia (of which the PLAAF and the PLANAF still carry on their J-15, Su-30MKK, and JH-7 aircraft to this day). The importance of the Buk over just about everything else is also reinforced by the fact that the interim Type 052B, the first subclass of DDG made after the acquisition of the Pr. 956 destroyers, was equipped with the 3S90M Shtil-1 + 9M317ME single-arm launcher combo while retaining subsonic Chinese ASMs. The interim Type 052B that came after the 051B carried subsonic anti-ship missiles as did the Type 052C that came after the 051C.

    • @Struktualnyj
      @Struktualnyj 3 роки тому

      @@Phunny If you are saying there are official internal documents which explicitly state that the reason for the purchase of the "project 956" was their Anti-air capabilities, then I have no reason to argue otherwise. On the other hand, if this wasn't stated explicitly, but only an interpretation, or if this information was intended for public, then we can continue this discussion for a long time. I, personally, will hold to my opinion (and it is just an opinion, nothing more) until I could see some proof of the contrary.
      Regarding the Kh-31 etc. -- according to Russian publications, Russia sold China licenses for Kh-31 (also finished products of P and A variants), 3M-54E "Kalibr" (also finished products as part of the "Kilo" deal, I believe), as well as "Shtil-1" (the VLS variant of Shtil). So there was no need for reverse-engineering whose systems. But no license for 3M80 "Moskit". Therefore, if China want's to reverse-engineer something, it would probably be Moskit. And it's plausible they'll say their new missiles are based on the licensed Kh-31s and not reverse-engineered (against the terms of EULA) 3M80s -- that's just being polite.

  • @Mobius118
    @Mobius118 3 роки тому +2

    *Idea/Valued viewer request*
    Since some of my fellow Americans are fed up with the American carrier being attacked, you could revisit whatever scenarios of this series you like, but out in the open ocean where the CSG can operate to its fullest extent in full battle spread, giving it a more likely chance at victory.
    If you don’t think that will make a difference, feel free to ignore this comment

  • @marinodezelak1180
    @marinodezelak1180 2 роки тому +2

    Yes, they do have Shipwrecks... and they're not acting correctly in DCS.

  • @strambino1
    @strambino1 3 роки тому +6

    Oscar 2 submarine has 24 p700 granit, it would be interesting to see SSGNs added to the game, then subs could participate. The improvements to the Soviet missiles looked so cool in this video!

  • @Llyrin
    @Llyrin 3 роки тому +1

    Well, I’m American, with 11 years with the Navy, and I don’t mind the attacks on the CVNs. The only problems I have really (now that the FFGs are no longer used) are with DCS itself, not Cap or the GRs.
    A CVN carries 65-70 aircraft, but (I guess?) DCS only allows half that. Doubling the aircraft to engage the enemy would make a big difference.
    There’s the peculiar reticence of the AI to launch AMRAAMs, and sometimes Harpoons, with the Hornets.
    The only other thing is the way the 688s (or possibly 774s?) can only be used a surface vessels, missile fodder, or decoration. Oh well.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper 3 роки тому

      Well there is a lack of US subs in the game too.
      So for the subs, Cap used the Russian Kilo class as a standin in a few matches too :D

    • @Llyrin
      @Llyrin 3 роки тому

      @@CMDRSweeper I saw him use the sub, basically, as a surface missile platform once. That’s the only reason I know it can be done.

  • @fox_the_apprentice
    @fox_the_apprentice 3 роки тому +5

    Hope this series goes until April 1st next year so we can finally have a server-crashing Russian vs Chinese vs US vs British CG free-for-all!

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton 3 роки тому +14

    The mighty Kirov class has actually has two ships that might live on. One is in service right now and the other is maybe perhaps almost refitted and modernized. Amazing ships.

  • @erichubbard2518
    @erichubbard2518 3 роки тому +6

    The reason the Russian jets were being pumped out so much faster is simple.. In Russia there are no safety rules

    • @thephantom2man
      @thephantom2man 3 роки тому +2

      I work with a really cool guy who is a retired crewchief from the bulgarian airforce, he spent 10 years working on the mig 21, and 15 years working on the mig 29, and last night during a lull in orders, he was showing me footage he actually took during his time in the air force of a mig 29 startup, and one thing that he said that surprised me, is that the main inlet covers that are closed on the ground on startup is NOT just to stop FOD, they only open back up above 20kmh when taxiing, as a safety measure for ground crews

    • @erichubbard2518
      @erichubbard2518 3 роки тому

      @@thephantom2man hehe lot has changed since soviet union

  • @Wolfen443
    @Wolfen443 3 роки тому +3

    The Russians call Artillery the Goddess Of War, and they have mastered it at sea apparently now with those Modern Sea Katiuskas missiles.

  • @torjones1701
    @torjones1701 3 роки тому +2

    "I don't know any Chinese heroes." Sounds like someone needs to play more Romance of the Three Kingdoms...

  • @jq7169
    @jq7169 3 роки тому +2

    CAP your commentary is hilariously refreshing keep up the Great Work.

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 3 роки тому +3

    Sick! Watching now and cant wait to see the outcome!👍
    Lol Cortana you have a Heavenly Voice😅

  • @Aardvark892
    @Aardvark892 3 роки тому +1

    Best thing about Cap and the GR is that they're knowledgeable but not stuck up. Always ready to admit when he/they don't know something and ask for info.

  • @fsAirCobra
    @fsAirCobra 3 роки тому +13

    It feels like both ship's camo are wrong in this game ._.

  • @cassius_eu5970
    @cassius_eu5970 3 роки тому +4

    Wait, why does it seem like the Americans are always complaining about everything in your comment section? "Wahh we lose too often, wahh the fight was unfair, wahh this and that is not modelled right, wahh it's always a US carrier group, wahh wahh wahh" lol...
    I say just ignore them and do what you like. :)

  • @m3w
    @m3w Рік тому

    Cap, your enthusiasm is wonderful. Thank you for these videos!

  • @andrewhomo2461
    @andrewhomo2461 3 роки тому +2

    Considering your comments about Kirov class: 2 will be operational after modernisation, 2 will be decomissioned. In process of modernisation: their strike potential will rise 4 times: from 20 to 80 missiles. They will also have improved AA-systems.
    The Moskva-type are operational and will be used till the mid 30-s.
    Kuznetsov will be also modernised: they will replace the engine turbines with new variant, will remove all strike weapons which will allow to store 5 more mig-29k in hangar, add new AA-systems, etc.
    It is just a part of soviet era ships, which will be modernised, while Russia is currently building many new modern ships.
    It's sad they are not in DCS.

  • @glenproctor1999
    @glenproctor1999 3 роки тому +4

    Really needs a talented mod maker to produce the Sovremney and Udaloys. I think they probably fall under the Russian embargo on realistic models which is why DCS haven't added them?

  • @simonyip5978
    @simonyip5978 2 роки тому +1

    In reality China has the second biggest carrier fleet, including CV carriers in service with the 4th being built, as well as 3 LSH helicopter/VSTOL carriers in service or undergoing sea trials.
    So China has 7 flat tops that are very modern, 7 carriers means that China now has the second biggest carrier fleet (the USN has 10 x CV carriers and 11 x LSH helicopter carriers).
    Type 001/002 CV = 1050' 70,000 tons.
    Type 003 CV = 1000'+ 80,000 tons.
    Type 075 LSH = 830' 45,000 tons.

  • @darkguardian1314
    @darkguardian1314 3 роки тому +2

    11:30 China: "Abandon ship!"
    The hits just keep on coming. LOL
    A couple cruise with only 4 ships does not a World-class Navy make.
    Russians know where to hit the Chinese carriers to sink it.

  • @wilson2455
    @wilson2455 2 роки тому

    0:05 - those are magnificent pieces of simulator hardware.

  • @willwozniak2826
    @willwozniak2826 2 роки тому +1

    Is it possible to do a IJN strike group vs a modern Chinese Carrier group? Well done boys.

  • @SnkHetz
    @SnkHetz 3 роки тому +5

    Why are you reporting grossly wrong infos? Pyotr Velikiy (Kirov-class) is in active service and modernized Admiral Nakhimov will join in the future, 3 Slava Class are in active service as well, they are not rusting in a dry dock, you are doing DCS every day, I don't understand how is possible to have such a lack of basic and open source knowledge about few major Russian ships.

  • @James-mq5zh
    @James-mq5zh 3 роки тому +8

    Cap, it's important to remember to breathe

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +2

      pfft! breathing is for nerds!

    • @James-mq5zh
      @James-mq5zh 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers aren't you an aeronautical/aviation enthusiast / nerd

  • @TinfoilHatWearer
    @TinfoilHatWearer 3 роки тому +1

    I wanna see what missile ship has the fastest rate if fire. My favorite thing is seeing the missiles launch from the ships... Just over and over. Love it!

  • @jathiyakhan720
    @jathiyakhan720 3 роки тому +13

    Russian missile tech is just top of the world man

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 3 роки тому +2

      And that's without the teaming behavior where all but 1 fly low and elect a sucker/"leader" to go high and active to guide the rest via Datalinking ....
      Now imagine how smart the P800 and newer missiles are.
      Its not about where they are from, they make some bloody clever, very impressive military tech.

    • @Struktualnyj
      @Struktualnyj 3 роки тому +1

      @@martinpalmer6203 Some people closely acquainted with the Soviet Navy said (unofficially) that there is no such thing as one missile is flying higher to provide targeting data for the group, while others are hiding beneath the radar horizon. In reality, all of them are flying as low as possible to delay detection and not to alert the CVBG for as long as possible. They rely on external targeting data, such as over-the-horizon radars or reconnaissance satellites etc., and they also spread in a thin long line so as not to miss the battle group (since targeting info may be outdated or not very precise). As soon as one of the missiles of the group detects the CVBG, it shares its data with the rest of the group, and they attack simultaneously, prioritizing the CVN itself and the most critical ships, and distributing the targets among themselves. They also use different techniques to make their intercept as hard as possible, and their hits as destructive as possible. This information is still considered to be secret in Russia (those systems are still operational), but since it has already leaked, and in any case NATO knows it all in much more details, you are welcome 😀

  • @micharola4194
    @micharola4194 3 роки тому +2

    Now , retake US Carrier Group vs Russian Carrier Group , as RU destroyers now can launch a salvo

  • @palinurustherock8778
    @palinurustherock8778 3 роки тому +2

    This was a good one. Can we get a British Carrier Group against these fleets?

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 3 роки тому +1

    Better flying next time for Kortana and Simba I hope. They did well with what they had :) Thanks GR!

  • @francescoboselli6033
    @francescoboselli6033 3 роки тому +4

    Interesting seeing different carrier groups from the US, exepecialy now that the Russian can salvo.
    Have you plan to do an episode with the UK carrier group against one of those?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +2

      Can't really get UK stuff working at moment :(ua-cam.com/video/jszrT-JPJJk/v-deo.html

    • @francescoboselli6033
      @francescoboselli6033 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers ah ok, I've seen those episode, more F35-D taken down by the type 45 then F35 taken down by American planes.
      A least those F35-D can convert into submarine 😂

  • @anonymous17367
    @anonymous17367 3 роки тому +6

    Honestly, a compilation of Cap pronouncing Hindi, Chinese etc. and badly failng would be welcome

  • @Struktualnyj
    @Struktualnyj 3 роки тому

    Cap, when you say that Peter the Great is a legacy battlecruiser and probably won't sail again, there is a second one of that class being upgraded with a modern systems and weapons. These two ships of the Kirov class are expected to serve in the Russian Navy for a long time, especially since nothing comparable will be built by Russians in the near future, and they really don't want to lose these unique assets.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому

      thanks, I'm a little out of date.

  • @keithwaterhouse2845
    @keithwaterhouse2845 3 роки тому +1

    This was fun, pity neither carrier group tried to sail around the island to flank the other but you can't expect much from A.I. Would have been good to watch the missiles striking the ships too but you would need multiple real time viewpoints, maybe some day.

  • @DemonLordGamingAC0
    @DemonLordGamingAC0 2 роки тому +1

    Russians be like: Nothing personal, kid

  • @jmaldo68
    @jmaldo68 3 роки тому +1

    Feel bad for Simba's smoking body... 8-)

  • @milosmilictrob2046
    @milosmilictrob2046 3 роки тому +1

    One massive problem ive spotted here, Liaoning dosent have its ASM, they removed them when the ship came to China, so this is not realistic, at least that part isnt.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому

      Thanks for info. Can't stop it using the ASM sadly :(

    • @milosmilictrob2046
      @milosmilictrob2046 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers Its understandable, since its just a copy and paste of Kuznetsov with the different name in the game.

  • @Caktusdud.
    @Caktusdud. 3 роки тому +26

    Yes that was a very interesting fight, I like how russia does what russia does to china. Send everything. I would like to see a rematch between us and Russian carriers. Sorry Americans. Is a carrier fleet battled with 2 cv vs 2 cv ever possible? Or will that just brake the game.

    • @PhoenixT70
      @PhoenixT70 3 роки тому +3

      It's unnecessary IRL because a proper supercarrier would piss all over any three smaller carriers (like, say, a _Kuznetsov)_ since an American CVN has as many planes as the average national air force. A 1 V 2 is very likely when you're dealing with China, but Russia only has the _Admiral Kuznetsov._ The Chinese actually own ex-_Minsk,_ she was their first CV. For DCS purposes, who knows? Only one way to find out.

    • @Pittigpiertje
      @Pittigpiertje 3 роки тому +4

      And IRL the idea is to send out the ASMs from max range and then turn around, limiting casualties

    • @Caktusdud.
      @Caktusdud. 3 роки тому +1

      I was suggesting 2 potential future battles, 1: us cg vs Russian cg rematch and/or a 2v2 of carriers.

  • @theKaisersose101
    @theKaisersose101 3 роки тому +1

    hopefully soon DCS will update its inventory of ships or modders can create a more modern inventory of the navies. Would like to see you do a battle with a french carrier group in the near future. Keep up the good work

  • @edilbertorivera3467
    @edilbertorivera3467 3 роки тому +1

    Oh your prediction sucks. Just by simply based by when the ships were made. Those Soviet designed ship are designed to overwhelm the US navy's defense. And at the same designed to repel overwhelming air attacks from the Americans.

  • @bennychesney7185
    @bennychesney7185 3 роки тому +2

    Can DCS handle larger carrier groups? For instance can we see what it would take to kil 2 carriers and 12 or 15 escort ships? Id love to see a rematch of the USCG vs the Chines air force but with a double wide carrier group. For example: if CSG 10 and CSG 12 were moving through the straight together ( CSG consists of CVN-77, CVN-78, and 14 to 18 escort ships), could the huge arsenal of Chines aircraft take down such a powerful navel fleet?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +1

      Can certainly try.

    • @bennychesney7185
      @bennychesney7185 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers thank you. I couldn't find a reference but I know I have seen news reals of CSG with more than one carrier

  • @1994fishboy
    @1994fishboy 3 роки тому +1

    Am I the only one who wants to see what the faces behind the voices look like?

  • @jimmywan87
    @jimmywan87 3 роки тому +1

    They are not aircraft carriers technically..... USSR considers them to be Heavy Aircraft Cruisers, so your vid title is technically wrong..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuznetsov-class_aircraft_carrier
    The PRC, however has an aircraft carrier coming up
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_003_aircraft_carrier

    • @marinodezelak1180
      @marinodezelak1180 2 роки тому

      Just a silly formality so the Russians can get trough the Bosporus in and out of the Black sea.... China can call their knock-offs whatever they like.

  • @akashgupta8926
    @akashgupta8926 3 роки тому +1

    Requesting you to simulate Indian carrier group consisting of INS Vikramaditya, Mig29K fighters, Kolkata class destroyers, and Talwar class frigates with supersonic Brahmos anti-ship missiles, Barak-8 SAM, Ak-603 CIWS Vs Chinese carrier group with Type 52D destroyers

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому

      Sadly we don't have a single Indian ship in game :(

  • @longtimber
    @longtimber 3 роки тому +1

    Happy Anniversary Megan and James and also to Cap and Mrs. Cap.

  • @TheFlanker47
    @TheFlanker47 3 роки тому +1

    First fight was more intense than Avengers fights.

  • @robbob9273
    @robbob9273 3 роки тому +3

    Soviet/russain missles are still good, when you got drone swarm supersonic minivans with a heat charge+ he warhead from 1970!!!!

    • @robbob9273
      @robbob9273 3 роки тому

      Oh yeah they sea skim and have 20mm resistant armour plate.

    • @calmterror
      @calmterror 3 роки тому

      well DCS doesnt really simulate the ECM and chaff for ships older missile means dumber and longer to develop ECM and other jamming and spoofing. Plus where did those AWAC's take off from? no AWAC no data link. but this is a flight sim not a naval sim.

    • @ser43_OLDC
      @ser43_OLDC 3 роки тому

      @@calmterror dcs doesn't modelate intelligence of misiles, becase I don't see mislles changing trayectories, also one high and the rest being low while are reviving orders of the one is high, also being ramjet misiles can acalerate or decelerate.
      That's the thing of DCS that don't modelate many things because of the complexity

    • @robbob9273
      @robbob9273 3 роки тому

      Yep dcs needs more work before we can enjoy any sense of naval realism.

  • @Pax.Britannica
    @Pax.Britannica 3 роки тому +1

    Would love to see how the QEC stacks up. Though, definitely gotta fix the vertical take off. Take off weight would be decimated with VTOL.

  • @IrishCarney
    @IrishCarney 3 роки тому +1

    Would have been fun to some of the Russian planes be naval Su-25s like the Su-25UTG or Su-25UBP, either configured for ground attack, or for naval strike such as carrying anti-ship missiles. Subsonic but armored and significantly smaller.

  • @chrisinstasis7986
    @chrisinstasis7986 2 роки тому

    2022 here. When you said "the leader of the Russians, Cortana" I thought, shit, the Russian Special Military Operation would have reached Paris by now if she were in command.

  • @captaindeliciouspants8315
    @captaindeliciouspants8315 3 роки тому +2

    CHINESE B.C.G. VS RUSSIAN B.C.G. VS AMERICAN B.C.G. VS UK B.C.G. F.F.A.!!!
    THROW IN A FEW GOODYEAR BLIMPS FOR FUN

  • @Tickson
    @Tickson 3 роки тому +1

    Actually there is one already Updated Battle Cruisers since every single one besides the one sailings rn had to be put in dry docks when the USSR collapsed since they were so expensive, the one sailing today was the last one to be build and were was left alive and another is being Modernized rn, they have a lot of Torpedos, 2 Choppers I think for ASW, 6 of those Russian C-Rams, equipped with Granit anti ship missiles and much more

  • @michaelgreen4881
    @michaelgreen4881 3 роки тому +3

    How about having an American carrier group fight a Russian and Chinese carrier group at the same time? 2 against 1!!!

    • @AscendingBliss
      @AscendingBliss 3 роки тому +2

      I think that's a great idea! It would certainly be realistic!

    • @ser43_OLDC
      @ser43_OLDC 3 роки тому

      Russia and China are no aliades only Business partners
      So if a Russian carrier group and a Chinese one aliade between the two, that means that someone have declared war to the two

  • @rgloria40
    @rgloria40 3 роки тому +2

    Since China wants to expand, how well can some of the smaller nation do with their "smaller carriers" such as Thai navy, the Chakri Naruebet. You can use just limit the number of aircraft for the carrier. I think the Philippines can covert their "RoRO" Ship manufacturing to carrier operations with sea harriers (3 or 4). South Korea carrier development would be interesting since they have F22 knockoff with KF-21 Boramae.

    • @prototype615h
      @prototype615h 3 роки тому

      Di kaya gawing aircraft carrier ang roro lol. Flight deck palang di na kasya. Paano pa kaya ang control tower.

    • @rgloria40
      @rgloria40 3 роки тому

      @@prototype615h Do you really need a "sail area." If you want a command and control area...It has a standard navigation radar or cheap air radar and a guy on a laptop and microphone and air boss on the flight deck with a tabulate.

    • @rgloria40
      @rgloria40 3 роки тому

      @@prototype615h en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanjin_Heavy_Industries_and_Construction_Philippines#/media/File:HHIC-Philippines.jpg

    • @prototype615h
      @prototype615h 3 роки тому

      @@rgloria40 Using a RoRo vessel as an aircraft carrier is the most stupid thing I ever heard. First of all, an aircraft carrier must be tough enough to withstand attacks, or else the planes worth millions of dollars go down with it. You need to add CIWS and AA missiles. Secondly, our existing RoRo vessels are too small. How are you going to cram the flight deck, the control tower, the hangars, the living quarters, cargo hold, fuel tanks? You mentioned Chakri, which is the smallest aircraft carrier, but it is not particularly small. It is bigger than a Ticonderoga cruiser for crying out loud. My third point is, why risk million dollar aircrafts by putting them on substandard improvised carriers when the country itself is an archipelago. duh? It is better to put up airbases in Palawan, and use Clark Pampanga and Sangley point Cavite

    • @rgloria40
      @rgloria40 3 роки тому

      @@prototype615h Do you know the history of aircraft carrier...Study or go back to school.

  • @clarityracc
    @clarityracc 3 роки тому +2

    I want to see the Chinese and Russian damn carrier fleets gun it out! I can’t be the only one! That’d be cool asf!
    Edit: I wrote this at like 3 am and I had tired hands on mobile so there were a lot of typos…

  • @brandonbarnett6520
    @brandonbarnett6520 3 роки тому +1

    You should replay this with more Chinese escort ships because then you get missiles and a greater chance of the Chinese getting a higher hit /kill percentage with the anti-ship missiles

  • @deadblank8391
    @deadblank8391 3 роки тому +2

    I wanted eagle dynamics to modernize Russian vehicles as its the cheapest option for new players wanting a new aircraft.

    • @shlug
      @shlug 3 роки тому +1

      The reason they don't is because Russian defense ministry won't allow them to. State secret and all.

  • @cmorichie7202
    @cmorichie7202 2 роки тому +1

    The graphics are insane.

  • @KrisTheLVN
    @KrisTheLVN 3 роки тому

    Nice to see Cap's football announcer training has paid off.

  • @dhananjaynn
    @dhananjaynn 3 роки тому +2

    Hey cap. Valued viewer request.. Can you do a US UK joint carrier group vs Chinese Russian and Indian carrier groups from 3 sides?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому

      Already working on it :) having problems with buggy F-35s

  • @airbreadwich
    @airbreadwich 2 роки тому +2

    Moskva aged well

  • @icarus_falling
    @icarus_falling 3 роки тому +1

    Need to have a count on how many times he says valued viewers

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому

      That;s your fault for being so valued...

  • @darkguardian1314
    @darkguardian1314 3 роки тому +3

    24:00 Battle over Guam while the American Military watches. LOL

    • @ajbridgewater
      @ajbridgewater 3 роки тому

      Can you imagine how crazy that would be to witness. It would the missile version of the Battle of Britain

  • @felixdelabarara494
    @felixdelabarara494 2 роки тому

    "Happy anniversary! Now on with the death and destruction."

  • @thusharikabotheju5655
    @thusharikabotheju5655 3 роки тому

    man i rly love CAPs commentary

  • @TheAtomicSpoon
    @TheAtomicSpoon 3 роки тому +1

    2 Kirovs left, with 1 undergoing modernization.
    Edit to reflect correction.

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 3 роки тому

      2 in service, 1 under refit, 1 active.
      2 laid up to be scrapped 😢 I wish they'd use them as Museum ships like the Iowas... it would be awesome to be able to go and see one someday.
      Its the closest thing to a Battleship anyones built in the last 50 years.
      300+ missiles on board when its nearest competitor has less than half that.
      I just love the "lets push the limits" designs..these Belong with Iowa and Yamato alongside Typhoon submarines as Modern engineering marvels .

    • @TheAtomicSpoon
      @TheAtomicSpoon 3 роки тому +1

      With the crazy horsejaw sonar as well. Thing is ridiculously large.

  • @sonaldosui8154
    @sonaldosui8154 2 роки тому

    I have a question, how do you have so many type of planes and ships?. For example where do you find the chinese J10, J15, J16, and J20. Also where did you get the F35? I download the DCS, and I don´t see these types of planes.

  • @feetpiece_704
    @feetpiece_704 3 роки тому +2

    Needs a Status-6 Mod to test against the CCP.

  • @johngodden4363
    @johngodden4363 Рік тому

    Hello folks - I would like to see a combined CANZUK naval armada including two Australian LHDs converted to deploy F35Bs to take on a two Carrier Chinese Fleet. Time to give the yanks a rest for once!

  • @ultimatewarrior733
    @ultimatewarrior733 3 роки тому +2

    US and British CGs vs. Russian and Chinese CGs!

  • @boostjunkie2320
    @boostjunkie2320 2 роки тому

    maybe its because I'm American but I cant stop watching the videos of U.S. carrier fleet vs literally anything lol the star wars and WW2 ones are interesting to watch too

  • @Mojje42
    @Mojje42 3 роки тому +1

    1st battle - Russian Fleet Commander: Ok boys lets not disappoint Kortana..... FIRE EVERYTHING!!!! =P

  • @leonlim007
    @leonlim007 3 роки тому +1

    You should mix it up and watch from the perspective of the ships, instead of always watching the missile flights when you are trying to commentate a huge barrage of missiles... its hard to what whats happening when missiles get shot down and we lose the perspective.

  • @Yeah-right-2024
    @Yeah-right-2024 3 роки тому +1

    *Good video*

  • @edilbertorivera3467
    @edilbertorivera3467 3 роки тому +1

    Next UK carrier group vs Russian carrier group. Kirov vs the cheating unlimited harpoon Type 45. Who would win?

  • @ROTNReaper
    @ROTNReaper 2 роки тому +1

    Hey guys, would you be able to do a US Navy vs North Korean strike?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 роки тому +1

      Yup will do but it's a few weeks off.

    • @ROTNReaper
      @ROTNReaper 2 роки тому

      @@grimreapers you're the best!

  • @frufrufrufru1999
    @frufrufrufru1999 3 роки тому +2

    Theses videos are so fun

  • @glennadcock6883
    @glennadcock6883 3 роки тому +1

    Please do a US carrier goes back in time and takes on the Peal harbor Japanese carrier group

  • @charlesyang197
    @charlesyang197 2 роки тому +1

    In real life, the Chinese would have J-20s, but this simulation is actually realistic!

    • @xsu-is7vq
      @xsu-is7vq 2 роки тому

      This is a naval battle. J20 shouldn’t be involved

    • @charlesyang197
      @charlesyang197 2 роки тому

      @@xsu-is7vq The carriers would probably be modified to carry J 20s, and there is a naval version. However, there can be land launched J-20s

    • @xsu-is7vq
      @xsu-is7vq 2 роки тому

      @@charlesyang197 Y20 can’t operate from carrier no matter what modifications you do to the carrier. It’s airframe simply aren’t designed for the impact from carrier landing. The J31 is the most likely carrier operated stealth fighter for China.

    • @charlesyang197
      @charlesyang197 2 роки тому

      @@xsu-is7vq The J 20 has a J 21 variant where it is more carrier based. The J 20 can also be launched from the Chinese ramps on thee carriers. A catapult is not needed in this case.

    • @xsu-is7vq
      @xsu-is7vq 2 роки тому

      @@charlesyang197 no there isn’t a carrier variant called j21. Internet rumor is just rumor.

  • @mr_exia
    @mr_exia 2 роки тому +1

    Why not type 052D or Type 055 insted of type 052C ?could make the shit great

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice show!

  • @lycon7000
    @lycon7000 3 роки тому +1

    Wish I had the money to make a flight setup and play this game, its so dope! Love your videos though!

  • @rightsideup6304
    @rightsideup6304 3 роки тому +1

    I'm genuinely confused as to why people are angy at you attacking the US Carrier group...

  • @tyroneemail
    @tyroneemail 3 роки тому +1

    LET THE LADY SPEAK MAN!

  • @johnwilson2338
    @johnwilson2338 2 роки тому +1

    @ approx 7min; The Chinese with virtually the same things but slightly upgraded will likely win the battle.

  • @godamighty
    @godamighty 3 роки тому

    Think we need a race between all the carriers in a line to launch 8 fighters ha

  • @montys420-
    @montys420- 3 роки тому +1

    This will be interesting!

  • @wolfsigma
    @wolfsigma 3 роки тому

    Its like a reverse Battle of Tsushima.