The Downsides of Fiber According to a Carnivore Doc | What the Fitness | Biolayne
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- Fiber reduces constipation incidence by increasing frequency of defecation:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23326...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27170...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35816...
Every 10g increase in fiber decreases relative risk of mortality by 10%
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25552...
Fiber reduces cancer & cardiovascular disease risk:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30166...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38153...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24355...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26711...
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I was bracing myself for Layne after the guy said "... Anal bleeding, like we all suffer from"
He might have to tell someone to take it easy on him because it's making him to bleed from back there.
"How eating only meat led to my butthole bleeding, and why it may actually be a GOOD thing?!"
I died when he said « we all suffer from that » 💀💀💀💀😂😂
Guys like this are the reason some people stay away from fruits and vegetables and that's crazy
I really enjoy Layne and his videos but the repeated screaming human randomized control trials is getting pretty tired and old and be nice if laid off it a bit. Course just my own personal opinion and taste
the irony being that fiber helps regulate lipids/cholesterol which are going to likely be impacted by eating so much saturated fat.
@@greenbottleblue74 it makes to say it in that way though because it's always relevant. Like every video comes back to the studies, so to emphasize the importance it gets yelled in a funny way every week. It's funny how it's always relevant.
@@BigBADSTUFF69 I remember arguing with a guy saying that we don't need fibers which is technically true but he was willing to overlook all the studies that prove how beneficial they are to us.
His name was the carnivore bodybuilder you can't make this up SMH and he was flaunting his bsc in nutrition, I'm pretty sure he didn't learn that while graduating.
@@greenbottleblue74 to be honest I'm here for the content so I don't mind his quirks if that helps spread the message
You need to come to Austin TX some time so I can hear you scream "HUMAN RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS" in person. That would make my day.
Personally, that would annoy the living piss out of me 🤣
This needs to be his other shirt, next to DATA > feelings
Dr. Paul Mason has great research and lectures at universities on this topic, and surprisingly less to no fiber actually improved the health of all the RCT test subjects. Very interesting work.
"The fertility doctor with anal bleeding" seems like a character out of a video game or a movie or something
Just one person here, but started eating more fermented foods and fiber a few months ago. I feel much better in my gut. Lived in Guatemala for a couple years and got stomach issues......feels good to be improving. It's videos like this that have helped me see what the current evidence shows.
Love the shirt!!
Is jumping off a skyscraper really harmful? Have you done it yourself?
Layne would you consider going live on UA-cam and doing an “Ask Me Anything?”
I had tomatoes for a snack this morning and I will be eating an orange soon. Those toxic fruits and veggies will probably kill me.
he does an AMA more than weekly on his instragram
@@billleach7915 man despite some people saying that these things fight cancer they are toxic and poisonous and you have brain cancer
@@billleach7915oxolates bro.
Eating whole plant diet actually "cured" my IBS by reducing its severity by i dont even know what number, but i hardly notice it anymore today and feel like im really close to what i felt before i got IBS.
Wholegrains saved me, whole plants and beans, lentils and soy improved it, fruits made it even better. Even apples are fine for me now.
No bloating, no diarhea, no going to toilet 5 times or more a day, no painful stols, limited pains or no pains at all.
Eating 60+ grams of fiber everyday, sometimes over 90 grams. Nothing bad happens to me lol
dont lie bro
IBS is for many people an allergy. You have stopped consuming whatever you are allergic too.
@@user-qo7vw9jy2b what is it that you don't believe? I eat like 100 to 150 g of fiber per day and have a nice once a day shit.
Cap
Master gaslighter
Should be able to give more than one thumbs up here… fantastic video!
Great video, Layne!
Any nutritional data for MS patients? As you note, MDs, including neurologists, generally don’t know and are not talking about nutrition with their MS patients. Thanks and love your content!!
Thank you, Layne! My fiber supplement (soluble) daily dose is around 5g. Isn't it too low given that daily norm (total fiber) is around 30g?
probably. it's hard to get 30g but I usually get there. I eat a lot of beans and greens and smoothies with chia seeds and shit like that. Definitely makes a difference though for me.
wouldlove to hear your opinion on the upper cut off where fiber stops being beneficial, I know you said linear bus if you go to 100, 200, let alone 300g of fiber it has to be enough at some point
Where is the link for the shirt? I don't see it in the description
Wow! That "fertility doctor" is giving precisely exactly the OPPOSITE of good advice. I worry about how many people have been harmed by influencers like this. Thank you Layne for posting this delightful debunkery!
He didn’t debunk his claims though.
Couldn't help remembering that SNL skit, Colon Blow.
Now that’s a food pyramid!
Remember the Hibernol skit with Chris Farley?
How do they measure these cardiovascular risks? People ate a shitload of fiber without any other changes to their diet and their cholesterol and blood pressure went down? I was always confused by that phrase used by doctors. Can anyone explain?
Could you do a video on raw milk?
Does anyone know of research on supplemental fiber vs. fiber from whole foods? I'd be curious if you can get the same effects from a partial supplement in your diet
As a diabetic, it’s weird how little fiber gets talked about when adding supplements to improve blood sugar levels. Yes, it’s uncomfortable at first but my blood sugar readings don’t lie since adding 16 grams of fiber.
At this point if you listen to enough people you literally can't eat food. Can we PLEASE stop demonizing certain foods and have some sense of balance???
No, because the fundamentals of health are not sexy, boring and don't sell very well.
Nice shirt! And thank you once again for calling these guys out and educating the rest of us!
Hey Norton, could you review some content of Team 3D Alpha here on youtube?
That dude is on high dose hormones and who knows what other drugs. Why do all carnivores have to go on TRT?
Because low carb diet disrupts the hormone production, not to mention carnivore is deficient in key micronutrients
They literally don't, weird comment?
@@Klaudiuszeglike what? 😂
@@Klaudiuszeg LoL.. what... The highest testosterone Ive ever had was when i did carnivore for 5 years.
Yo, where be the link for my data shirt? Whattup Layne?
biolaynestore page
Love it! Keep going!
I’ve been fatigued for years, I’ve tried every style of diet including the Australian healthy eating guidelines but I recently tried the carnivore diet (thinking it was stupid) & my energy & mood has improved dramatically. My question is why???
Because before you were probably eating a bunch of bad foods and now with a hyper restrictive diet you are only eating one thing. It is very unlikely that adding vegetables fruits, nut.S whole grains or healthy fat would make you sick, That is unless you have a very frail.Digestive system with some people do
@@hypernewlapse yeah that’s what’s weird, i don’t eat fast food & i use to eat a variety of fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts & meats & while doing moderate exercise & having healthy sleep patterns.
I’m very confused why this has had such a profound effect on me!
Man don't listen to this Norton guy, his talk is just broscience. I felt the best in my life when I switched to ketosis as opposed to carbs for energy
@@cameroncroker2936 All carnivores report the same shit but people just don't want to listen to it.
lol, because you’re doing it right, that’s why. this video didn’t debunk anything and it’s cope
Love the irony of how much feeling you convey the data with,
thank you.
Awesome. Can you also comment on the video "fiber, constipation and diet" by Dr Anthony chaffee?
He makes several points against eating fiber, would be nice to hear your opinion.
My favorite saying.. "For the algorithm, 😂"
"You deserve the truth" powered by Tom Cruise/Scientology, errr...
I haven't been able to hop off my high fiber diet ever since I started my weight loss journey because otherwise I get really painful bowel movements and actual bleeding.
I would love Layne and Anthony Chaffee to have a debate. They both make really valid points and I’d love to hear a conversation between the two.
I think they’re biased in their own way and look specifically for research that proves their own points. So Chaffee will find stuff that proves a lettuce will kill you, while Layne will say everything is calorie in and calorie out and eating seed oil is like just having a bad stock in a portfolio, ain’t going to do much. Quite frankly who cares, try to advance the betterment of mankind? 🤷♂️
@@TheToplessChef-hf5eb did you just compare a guy telling you that plants are bad for health to Norton?
At least even when he cites studies Norton is able to nuance the results or at least express criticism when he sees fit, he's biased of course but the premises to criticise him are not where you think they are.
@@enamuossuo actually I think the vast majority of epidemiological studies are BS these days. Open for deliberate manipulation by corporate interests such as the high protein causes atherosclerosis study in Feb or the intermittent fasting ups heart disease risk by the American heart foundation, they even did a study on how one day of sun bathing ups heart attack risk. A group of researchers as a joke even got a big rats penis AI generated study past peer review. Just google “this got through peer review? Big rat penis”. Under those circumstances I’ll rather a) test claimed results on studies on my body first, and boy does carnivore diet produce amazing results 2) I’ll look at other areas of research such as Anthropology and paleo anthropology to get an idea of optimal human diet, where there is little science corporate interests corrupt the interpretation and findings of the studies.
@@enamuossuo so you have one guy who says plants are bad and cites studies and another guy Layne who says seed oils are not that bad and cotes studies. Your point is? Meanwhile I really like the guys who took the piss and got AI to generate a big rat penis study which got through peer review. Google “this got through peer review? Big rat penis”
Just saying don’t assume just because there are studies that it’s a reflection of the reality of the world. Science is quickly turning as subjective as art because of corporate interests corrupting it.
@@TheToplessChef-hf5eb if you claim seed oils are bad, I'm sorry to tell you you're the one biased.
But I'd be glad to see scientific evidence that proves your point
2 tbsp of psyllium husk per day. No anal bleeding over here 💩
yea
For the algorithm- thanks once again for free information!!
Bro you gotta fix your mic and audio. It is a complete disaster, which I would imagine you're well aware of now.
Not sure if you know this that guy is Saladino’s grandpa.
I tried the carnivore diet since i have some issues with constipation and those people were swearing that you don´t have an issue with that on the carnivore diet.
Well i had the worst constipations since years
thats because you need to increase your fat intake.
be careful, if you have too much fat, you will have explosive diahorrea
you can have it (or other issues) initially but after a week or too it's the best
WTF became my go to Frida show ❤
1) He’s correct in that fiber can be harmful. These tend to be in people whom have some bacterial overgrowth/parasite, allergy. 2) Yes fiber can improve bowel movements for many, but also for many less fiber helps. Layne screaming about RCT’s as per usual is crazy because you don’t need an RCT to determine what works. Self reported whether you take a shit is very simple. They aren’t asking simply “how do you feel after a drug” you either shit or you don’t. You can find a number of studies and people online whom all report going low fiber helped them (me being one of them at one point). Yes if you don’t have an allergy after the gut issue has passed you can add it back in but increasing fiber across the board isn’t the wise decision people think it is. Do with what your body responds best to, not what some study says
So, the bacterial overgrowth or parasite is the problem that needs to be addressed and fixed. It is not that fiber is bad for them. The poor gut flora is the problem, which would have generally resulted from poor lifestyle choices in the first place. Fermented foods, etc can naturally help the gut flora. Fix the gut flora. It is massively important to overall health. Avoiding fiber is not the cure by any means.
Fiber/good...parasite/bad
Also...it was mentioned in the video about people with underlying issues, that need to be addressed, feeling better with lower fiber short term. And, that some people with food sensitivities may need to avoid certain fibers. But, restoring healthy flora in the digestive tract does wonders for people.
@@charlottedawn7334well said.
Dr. Paul Mason has great research and lectures at universities on this topic, and surprisingly less to no fiber actually improved the health of all the RCT test subjects. Very interesting work.
Fibre is pretty much an anti nutrient, your body can't process it and gets rid of it, if you eat a fair bit of sugar it might help in them insistence but when I use to eat it, it just made me feel gassy and bloated. I think if I am to start eating a bit of fruit and vegetables again I would put them through a cold presser to get rid of the fibre, and make it easier to process.
Dr. Norton thank you so much for clarify the science and i just wondered where can i read book about nutrition that are science based and reliable any recommendations ?
I want that t-shirt!
I’m a doctor! But I didn’t personally do the procedures of the study so I can’t trust any reference to the results…
You’re awesome Layne
I know this is N of 1, but I personally feel a lot better without fiber.
What about the Inuit?
What about them? They ate the stomach content of their catch, tubers and berries in the summer. And they died much earlier than other tribes.
What about Keith Richards?
The aggressive sarcasm very much adds to our appreciation of the scientific data!
My gut reacts badly to fiber how can I fix this?
I think your best bet would be to increase the intake of fermented foods for several weeks and then try to reintroduce fibre slowly again.
Don't eat it or add fiber slowly to diet. Elimination diet and out what foods are causing the problem. Enjoy some fermented foods such as saurkrAut, kimchee or Natto. If you are are due get a colonoscopy to check for anomalies such diverticulitis, or polyps or cancer. Don't worry about it , to be on the safe side get checked out. A recommended procedure for all. 🏋♂️🏋🏻
Excelent ca de obicei ……..si foarte hilar.
I cant eat alot of fiber~ I have terrible bloating and constipation~ ketovore has helped alot
`I followed DR advice and kept adding more and more fiber and it just made it worse! eating mostly meat, fats and a few veggies here and there has helped alot but hasnt been a cure all~at least for me~still IM not going back to all the whole grains ,beans and fruit i used to eat
There’s some evidence (think it’s early days still) that some people struggle with fibre because of poor gut health. They lack the bacteria required to ferment the fibre. It’s been demonstrated in some studies that consuming fermented foods first and then very slowly adding fibre back so beneficial results
Yes I tried the fermented veggies and didn't get good results
One study with 63 self-reporting participants is suppose to disprove every other study done regarding fiber?
Exactly, also with no control group. Trust me bro
Do you hav examples of RCT studies on fiber?
I watch these just to see to what degree Layne looses his shit lol
Dr. Layton: he can’t be a doctor. This guy is clueless, he probably bought his license
so excited for this one.
Layne Greatness agai!
Fiber can be extremely beneficial for some people, but for people like me, cutting out fiber has fixed my constipation and digestive issues. So it is wrong to say that everyone benefits from fiber.
Hey bro, science is cool.
Since forever your input to the general health and wellness scene has been the best. Keep setting the record straight.
Complete anecdote but fiber has never felt beneficial to me in anyway shape or form. Even small amounts. I dont have ibs or anything like that. It just makes everything related to bowel movements worse.
Not all of course, but many hard core carnivore advocates have gone off the deep end. As wacky as some of the hardcore vegans, just at the opposite end of the diet spectrum.
You're going to have to provide some names and examples of "wacky" claims. Otherwise, this is just meaningless name calling. Since this is a doctor, please only provide claims from other doctors (MD or PhD). I would be interested in what claims you find wacky.
@@jakubchrobry3701 Let's see, LDL level, no matter how high doesn't matter. The various that veggie contains xyz toxin and will hurt you. Carnivore is the "intended" human diet.
@jakubchrobry3701 Dr Sean Baker, Dr. Chaffe, Dr. Paul Saladino say ," Plants are toxic and fiber is unnecessary ". 🏋♂️
@@jakubchrobry3701 Did you listen to the video?!
@@altaisrs2857 I was kind enough to explain what the other commenter missed. Please enlighten me what I missed. Are you going to claim Layne is "wacky?" His claims are consistent with numerous studies. 100s of studies might be wrong, but I would not call them wacky. What is your definition of wacky?
Talk to Dr Berry, Baker, or Westman. Or maybe Professor Bart Kay, instead of critiquing these bums. See how that goes
Talk? He prefers to scream and act out
OH GOLLY GEE WILLIKERS
As someone who has dealt with IBS-D for 20+ years, fiber is a complicated subject. On the other hand, taking a diuretic for my blood pressure has created a bit of a constipation problem. The solution for that is a bit of psyllium fiber. It's a fine line, though. Too little fiber - constipation. Too much fiber - diarrhea.
Love Dr Lame Norton presentation style , special need doc 👍🏼
LAYNE YOU ARE THE MAN !!!!!!!
The fact is that Layne is telling you that this guy is technically correct, but he doesn’t like the study used. Plus, he’s already had some type of interaction with him previously. Reality is most studies are funded by the group trying to prove their point or selling their product , which leads to some bias. Big Pharma and Big Food are funding most of them. Layne is well educated and a nice guy that’s well meaning. Again, he’s a businessman selling his products…he sells supplements, training programs, nutritional advice and merchandise. All under the guise of “Science backed” just like the other thousands of online fitness people. So in the end, use all this free information to make informed decisions in consultation with with your doctor in case you have some medical conditions that might be affected.
I did have anal bleeding (infrequently) on a plant based diet, along with with chronic constipation for 40 years. Since going low carb 6 months ago I have had neither. That doesn't mean everybody will have those problems. But my anxiety also reduced a great deal in the last 6 months. I still hav ea little fibre but not much.
What happens if I have a feeling that the data is fraud?
" My Mama say that fiber is the devil. " - Bobby Boucher
there are certain kinds of men that ay suffer from anal bleeding but that's not caused by fiber.
It seems as if we're getting a lot more people with degrees in one thing thinking that they are experts in other fields that have little to no relevance to their degree.
Anecdotally, I suffered from chronic constipation for over a decade, and once I cut out fiber I was able to become “regular”. I can only testify what happened to me personally. Just goes to show every person is very different.
For the algorithm!
I have a question. I historically have a hard time reaching my daily 25/30g of fiber daily. I recently discovered Franz KETO bread has 12g of fiber per slice. How do they get that much fiber in a single slice of bread? It seems like it may be the modified wheat?
Modified wheat? Dude just look at the ingredients. It’s made of several types of purified fibre.
Does Glycogen exists?
Does Layne exist?
Do we all exists?
Layne Norton - defender of the status quo
DATA > feelings
As a lay person, what are the bio mechanisms of fibres benefits?
loved it! 😂
Best in the business!!!
You convinced me to add fiber to my diet and now I'm basically off duralax after living on it the past 6 years
You just didn't eat fiber??
@@johnnyfog8134 my diet is terrible. I eat bacon jerky and cheezits half the week because I drive a lot for work. Most of my protein comes from powder (4-5 shakes a day). So no, I didn't eat fiber
@@imemailingmybrotherI’ve been to places like Love’s and Sheetz and Flying J, and you know what? They have fruit. You can buy a banana. Or grapes. Or an Apple. Or even at Love’s they have little containers of pre peeled Mandarin Oranges.
You must have been living under a rock for your entire life then. Or just brain dead. One of the two.
Stay on it bro!
LOL, glucose primary storage via glycation. Don't even know where to start with how stupid that is. Have done glycogen staining and quantative bioassays, can confirm it exists.
I've been feeling so much better since I increase my fruit and veggies , I'm eating more potassium vitamins and minerals from the fruits and veggies I'm also eating more Fiber and I feel good because having healthy bowel movements is so important
It's a form of healthy detox too
fiber is the true superfood, made a huge difference for me
Seems like people dislike the idea of regular bowel movements😂😂😂
@@danaso2567 I don't know why because when we go #2 we're not just pooping out digested food we're also pooping out collected environmental toxins and pollutants
at least the amount that the body is able to get rid of on it's own but it would still be much better if we lived in a clean no pollution world
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You believe in science? Perform every experiment!
Layne out there triggering folks left and right
I’ve had anal bleeding. First time is bloody worrying. Guess how I sorted it?…..increased my fibre.
Not knowing how to respond... That's how I feel as well when people are so misinformed you don't even know where to begin. And they ask you questions they think are smart and then say they're right and you're wrong because you don't know the answer to the utterly stupid question that is based on bullshit to begin with.
Just because every microbiome researcher says fiber is very important..
You forgot *study with randomized control groups
@@Gromic2k Name 1
@@user-nz4un6se7y Associations between dietary fiber intake and cardiovascular risk factors: An umbrella review of meta-analyses of randomized controlled trials
@@user-nz4un6se7y you dropped your clowns nose sir
@@Gromic2k it's yours, truly
I was constantly 135/85 even though i was eating healthy for 3-4 months. I recently have been getting 123/75 and better readings but it wasnt until i increased my fiber another 10-15 grams a day. Before was probally only getting 15 on a good day and now i try to hit 25-30 and it seems to be paying off. No meds
I can assure you I do not suffer from anal bleeding
Eat 100 grams of fiber and live forever. But make sure you have a plumber on speed dial.
i fucking love your scientific stand up with theatrical movements and expressions. love it.
Coach Greg Doucette king of fibre needs to see this lol