Giannis has one, but he doesn’t master it because he focuses on the style of play that allowed him to average 30 points with 61% shooting last season, should’ve been higher in MVP voting
Man for some reason the Thompson twins are some of my favorite players rn. Ausar for his amazing defense and Amen for his superstar potential I hope they both become all stars
@@JettIRL y’all looking to deep into it. They are essentially equal in everything. Amen dribbles slightly better. Ausar rebounds slightly better bt they equal each other. Even last years rookie season was almost identical for two different teams. They will have almost identical careers, it’s just gonna be based on whose team is winning will ppl say o yea this one or that one is better
@@JettIRL Like I said ppl will base it off whose team is better. If we look at this April, obviously the Rockets are better which is why Amen will get the spot light. In 5 years the career will look the same, and 10 years, and 15. it all balances out
i love these videos man.. very thought provoking nba content that offers deeper ideas and suggestions on unsung, underrated and overlooked aspects of player's games/styles
The answer to this is unequivocally "yes". Ben Simmons was a multiple time all-star, all-nba and DPOY level player before the back injuries. It would be flat-out stupid to argue that he was not a star
I'm reading the Ben Simmons comp but Ben Simmons wasn't a willing cutter/slasher. He could've been an unstoppable slasher if he was an active and willing slasher. I think he compares to Draymond skillset-wise.
It's crazy because a jumper isn't a natural gift like athleticism or court vision. It's totally improvable. We've seen guys like J Kidd, Lebron, Blake Griffin, Brook Lopez, just to name a few become much better shooters later on in their careers but it seems like younger guys just don't want to do it. They must all be convinced they don't need it even though a blind hoops fan could tell a guy like Thompson that if he works on his jumper every day then he could become one of the best basketball players of his era, he's that good at everything else.
Take brook out of there. He was already a good mid range shooter prior to learning to shoot 3s. He just developed it when bigs are starting to shoot 3s
Lonzo Ball for sure. And I gurantee the Thompson Twins are shooting like crazy everyday. My guess is the harder part, is gaining the confidence to practice the shot in the game. You realize how hard it is to attempt a 3 when you turn to your left and have Reed Sheppard or Vanvleet on the wing or Jabari Smith Jr and Cam whitmore on the other side lol? You better be rlly confidence in your shot
I’m a firm believer in the twins, the IQ they have is an ahead their years. Ofc they’ll have lapses in judgement like everyone does but they’re work horses and I know that they’ll do anything in their power to try and get that jumpshot together. Their potential is limitless to me with the athleticism, love for the game, and the fire to get better and better. I’m def buying stock in them plus the defense they have is amazing
And I believe if the jumpshot doesn’t come along that he is someone that can be a connective star on a championship roster ( bold claim I know) but I think even if he doesn’t get one he’ll be a star if they unleash him
Love your videos. Can you make this kind of vid for the new trail blazer Deni Avdija? many of us in Israel follow him closely and the blazers did give a a lot for him but can he beacome a real star in the league?
Zion and Giannis feel like the last star caliber players to not have a jump shot Arguably Gobert as well but personally I don't think he's star caliber anymore
@@jonathand.t.5051 Considering Zion is only 5 years nba old and Giannis became a superstar in the midst of the 3 point era, i doubt they the last of anything. im sure we will continue seeing freaks of nature ever 5 or so years.
Man I wish Ausar had as much attention as his twin, easy all-defence calibre guy who can end up as the most versatile defender ever. 6''7 with a long wingspan and insane athleticism which he actually uses for blocking shots and playing center like defence.
Ausar will be good for a lot of the same reasons Amen is, he just couldn't show it as much with that Pistons roster and Monty last year. Should be better this season with more 3 point shooters on the roster and a new coach.
Ausaur is the next rodman and I've watched an insane amount of Dennis. Kids lengthy a good passer a elite rebounder a pest and small rim protector on defense and will attempt a score if he's open. Detroit has a star. I think amen isn't quite the rebounder but he is a better offensive player overall and a super athletic defender who showed a ton of IQ. These guys are gonna wreck the NBA if they get used correctly
Agree both twins did the exact same thing last year. Ausar did it in the first 25 games and Amen did it the last 25 games which is why he gets more attention now. But both played dang near the same amount with the same stats.
@@i_fuze_hostages6 I mean they do the exact same things with a slight edge in rebounding to Ausar and a slight edge in dribbling to Amen, but their stats are dang near identical.
That's not true. There use to be a Tony Allen on every team in the nba prior to 2015. A guy that plays the right way and defends bt cant shoot for his life. We had a couple of them on my D-Rose Bulls. Ronnie Brewer comes to mind, who started and all. And today you can still have it. You just have to be exceptional and on a team that is built with all shooters. houston has plenty of shooters to cover Amen
I think Amen has a higher theoretical ceiling but Ausar (unless the blood clots are a permanent issue) will have the better career. Ausar is the better defender (already an incredible defender as a rookie), and Fred Vinson has fixed disgusting jumpers in the past
@@Bevxx Amen is absolutely not better at defence and that's not up for debate. For everything else, I literally started my comment by saying Amen has a better ceiling
@@Bevxx Yall both wrong. They essentially are the same player. Ausar rebounds slightly better, and Amen dribbles slightly better. They pass the same, it just looks like Ausar does cuz of his handle. Bt they essentially did the same thing on different teams last year. blood clots aside, they are clones of each other and will have the same career. only slight differences will be based on the team surrounding them, much like the Morris Twins
Houston is the perfect sitation. Reed, Vanvleet, Cam whitmore, Dillon Brooks, Jabari smith jr, and even Sengun is shooting better. Obviously Jalen Green is hot and cold. Bt Amen's in the perfect situation
They have different builds of course but I definitely think that’s a great comp even though I think Amen projects to be a better on-ball creator/driver
I think he can still be really good. But, not a closer. Giannis, Simmons, are some recent examples. Even Lebron didn’t have a reliable jumper until halfway through his career.
Have we not learned from ben simmons? People asked the same questions and the answer is in todays nba is still no you cant be a star without a jumpshot. Its a key factor and you need to be insanely dominant in the paint like 20ppg in the paint unstoppable or just get a jumpshot. Hes gonna be just like ben if he doesnt get one no matter how good he is teams will just abuse his main weakness like they tried to do with giannis and did with ben why do we always do this? Even scottie barnes got a jumpshot to avoid the same issues as ben simmons in his SECOND YEAR they tried sagging into the paint.
Yes, speaking generally. But the Rockets need shooters. Except for Fred, our team is full of average and below average shooters. The Rockets have to get shooting from the 2 and 3. If Jalen doesnt figure it out and Amen has no outside shot, the Rockets wont move to the next level.
Bruh what? Rockets have a team of shooters, its the best situation. Sengun and Jabari Smith Jr are both willing 3 point shooters which is very rare to have 2 in any frontcourt. And Reed Sheppad and Vanvleet are great at the PG spot. Cam Whitmore had a good rookie shooting season and Jalen Green is hot and cold. Bt the main point being everyone around him is a willing shooter which is what is needed.
Amen is my player. I threw out the term gen z magic Johnson and I was only slightly exaggerating. He has world class athletic gifts and sees the game already very well at 20 years old. I know it’s unpopular but I already think he’s better than jalen green.
Ill go a step further I think Amen and Cam whitmore are already better than Green. Future lineup should be Reed Sheppard, Cam Whitmore, Amen Thompson, Jabari Smith Jr, and Sengun. They all compliment each other
23 percent on jumpshots is unacceptable for a perimeter non big. Can’t take him seriously as a player. Exactly why I dropped him from one of my fantasy teams.
The story of Ben Simmons suggests that's not a viable strategy. The story of Giannis suggests he only has to be just good enough to take them and make them when it counts.
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Giannis: 👀
Giannis is 7 foot tall and very strong
I’d like to see amen achieve giannis’ size and strength
My first thought when I saw the title
Ben Simmons has no jumpshots look what happened to him.
Giannis has one, but he doesn’t master it because he focuses on the style of play that allowed him to average 30 points with 61% shooting last season, should’ve been higher in MVP voting
Honestly I might sound delusional but at his peak Ben Simmons was actually great.
Not delusional at all, he was fantastic
That's the real tragedy of Simmons.... Bro was phenomenal even with his flaws
The man had literally 1 flaw that was it he was elite at everything else
Difference between Simmons and Amen is that the latter is obsessed with being great and his work ethic is immense
woah really? the guy with a ROTY, 3x all star with 2 all defensive first teams and 1 all nba team was good?
Yooo lets go man you've been making some of the best basketball content lately fr
Thank you man, sincerely appreciate that!
@@AlexHoops Ben Simmons has no jumpshot look what happened to him.
Man for some reason the Thompson twins are some of my favorite players rn. Ausar for his amazing defense and Amen for his superstar potential
I hope they both become all stars
100% agree, they actual both move without the ball rlly well. That's a huge strength
honestly think Amen is a better defender also
@@JettIRL y’all looking to deep into it. They are essentially equal in everything. Amen dribbles slightly better. Ausar rebounds slightly better bt they equal each other. Even last years rookie season was almost identical for two different teams. They will have almost identical careers, it’s just gonna be based on whose team is winning will ppl say o yea this one or that one is better
@@Shortballa11 check in with me in April we'll see how they develop
@@JettIRL Like I said ppl will base it off whose team is better. If we look at this April, obviously the Rockets are better which is why Amen will get the spot light. In 5 years the career will look the same, and 10 years, and 15. it all balances out
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i love these videos man.. very thought provoking nba content that offers deeper ideas and suggestions on unsung, underrated and overlooked aspects of player's games/styles
everytime you make one of these videos, it makes me want to load up a new mycareer on 2k and abuse the league with them
The answer to this is unequivocally "yes". Ben Simmons was a multiple time all-star, all-nba and DPOY level player before the back injuries. It would be flat-out stupid to argue that he was not a star
And then the nba realized he sucks
Is a different league
Amen’s case should be better tho, at least he can shot free throw better
stoked to see your stuff over the course of the season. The people need a raptors video.
Oh he's going to be a star for sure. As always, great video Alex!
I'm reading the Ben Simmons comp but Ben Simmons wasn't a willing cutter/slasher. He could've been an unstoppable slasher if he was an active and willing slasher. I think he compares to Draymond skillset-wise.
I would say more igoudala than Draymond. Or more shaun livingston except on steroids
Dropping a comment to boost your engagement cuz you’re one of the best nba analysts on youtube
It's crazy because a jumper isn't a natural gift like athleticism or court vision. It's totally improvable. We've seen guys like J Kidd, Lebron, Blake Griffin, Brook Lopez, just to name a few become much better shooters later on in their careers but it seems like younger guys just don't want to do it. They must all be convinced they don't need it even though a blind hoops fan could tell a guy like Thompson that if he works on his jumper every day then he could become one of the best basketball players of his era, he's that good at everything else.
Take brook out of there. He was already a good mid range shooter prior to learning to shoot 3s. He just developed it when bigs are starting to shoot 3s
Don’t you forget most importantly, Giannis
Lonzo Ball for sure. And I gurantee the Thompson Twins are shooting like crazy everyday. My guess is the harder part, is gaining the confidence to practice the shot in the game. You realize how hard it is to attempt a 3 when you turn to your left and have Reed Sheppard or Vanvleet on the wing or Jabari Smith Jr and Cam whitmore on the other side lol? You better be rlly confidence in your shot
@@jameslucas4173 i mean its the opposite for Giannis. he was a good shooter coming into the league and regressed
@@Shortballa11 False. He shot a good percentage in his rookie year, but he shot a low volume, so it’s contentious.
Love the analysis
Let's go. I sincerely hope he'll become a star player. Also Jabari. He's great too
most players have offense you tune in to watch, but the thompson twins make me love to watch defense
It’s here!! Love this. Super high on this kid!
as long as he learns how to shoot free throws at even a league average rate, i think he’s gonna be good
Excellent video. Thank you.
they’ll both be just fine. they’re INSANE ATHLETES, with high IQ and a great feel for the game
Great video!
Of course. Ben Simmons is perfect example
Leave poor Ben Simmons alone 😭
I’m a firm believer in the twins, the IQ they have is an ahead their years. Ofc they’ll have lapses in judgement like everyone does but they’re work horses and I know that they’ll do anything in their power to try and get that jumpshot together. Their potential is limitless to me with the athleticism, love for the game, and the fire to get better and better. I’m def buying stock in them plus the defense they have is amazing
And I believe if the jumpshot doesn’t come along that he is someone that can be a connective star on a championship roster ( bold claim I know) but I think even if he doesn’t get one he’ll be a star if they unleash him
Love your videos. Can you make this kind of vid for the new trail blazer Deni Avdija? many of us in Israel follow him closely and the blazers did give a a lot for him but can he beacome a real star in the league?
if you are dominating PHYSICALLY and can do lots of things like Giannis and old Ben Simmons, YES.
If not, NO.
Love the content and amen, who do you like more going forward amen or Ausar both very intriguing
I think Ausar is gonna be a better defender but I like Amen’s overall offensive potential more
@@AlexHoops they the exact same with slight differences. Whoever plays on the better team will get more love. thats how it works.
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Kinda like a skinny Zion... when they back off they both are too quick and in Zion's case too Strong so having a jump shot isn't the end all be all
Zion and Giannis feel like the last star caliber players to not have a jump shot
Arguably Gobert as well but personally I don't think he's star caliber anymore
@@jonathand.t.5051 yea I feel what you're saying like Rudy is a defensive star just not even competent on D
@@jonathand.t.5051 Considering Zion is only 5 years nba old and Giannis became a superstar in the midst of the 3 point era, i doubt they the last of anything. im sure we will continue seeing freaks of nature ever 5 or so years.
Man I wish Ausar had as much attention as his twin, easy all-defence calibre guy who can end up as the most versatile defender ever. 6''7 with a long wingspan and insane athleticism which he actually uses for blocking shots and playing center like defence.
Ausar will be good for a lot of the same reasons Amen is, he just couldn't show it as much with that Pistons roster and Monty last year. Should be better this season with more 3 point shooters on the roster and a new coach.
Enjoyed watching him play defence, absolute menace on that end.
Ausaur is the next rodman and I've watched an insane amount of Dennis. Kids lengthy a good passer a elite rebounder a pest and small rim protector on defense and will attempt a score if he's open. Detroit has a star. I think amen isn't quite the rebounder but he is a better offensive player overall and a super athletic defender who showed a ton of IQ. These guys are gonna wreck the NBA if they get used correctly
Agree both twins did the exact same thing last year. Ausar did it in the first 25 games and Amen did it the last 25 games which is why he gets more attention now. But both played dang near the same amount with the same stats.
@@i_fuze_hostages6 I mean they do the exact same things with a slight edge in rebounding to Ausar and a slight edge in dribbling to Amen, but their stats are dang near identical.
Not in today's NBA. Amen to that
I think he’ll get a decent jumper may never be a “shooter” but he could be a guy who can at least hit 1-2 a game
I think he can easily be prime ben Simmons level without the crappy mentality and (hopefully) injuries.
Didnt he improve his shot in preseason?
Yes Gainnis doesn't have one and is a top 3 player some people consider Paolo a star and he doesn't have one
Paolo has a jumper. its not efficient yet bt he is more lebron jumper wise than ben simmons
Modern nba, anyone who isn't a big, can not be a star without a jumpshot
He can shoot 3s now
You've needed a jumper to make it in the NBA as a non-big since the 60s tbh
And I don't kean threes, I mean like a jump shot from like 10, 12, 15 feet
That's not true. There use to be a Tony Allen on every team in the nba prior to 2015. A guy that plays the right way and defends bt cant shoot for his life. We had a couple of them on my D-Rose Bulls. Ronnie Brewer comes to mind, who started and all. And today you can still have it. You just have to be exceptional and on a team that is built with all shooters. houston has plenty of shooters to cover Amen
Shaq: 👀
Shawn Marion developed his later so maybe
Amen thompson would be a better player with stephs handle than he would be with stephs shooting
Yes, but only if you can shoot free throw, which means you have a jump shot lol
DeAndre Jordan:
Zion:😅
I thnk a jumpsot would make him a all star
Ben Simmons was for a couple of years at least.
Of course! Just ask Zion williamson and ben simmons who have both been in the leauge now and haven't developed shii
Dwight Howard.
Basically aaron gordon..almost..ag can shoot sometimes
Undersized LeBron game. Create ludicrous rim pressure to open the court up.
I think Amen has a higher theoretical ceiling but Ausar (unless the blood clots are a permanent issue) will have the better career. Ausar is the better defender (already an incredible defender as a rookie), and Fred Vinson has fixed disgusting jumpers in the past
Amen is literally better at everything besides defending and even then that’s debatable
@@Bevxx Amen is absolutely not better at defence and that's not up for debate. For everything else, I literally started my comment by saying Amen has a better ceiling
@@Bevxx Amen is better offensively, but literally everything else Ausar clears
@@Bevxx Yall both wrong. They essentially are the same player. Ausar rebounds slightly better, and Amen dribbles slightly better. They pass the same, it just looks like Ausar does cuz of his handle. Bt they essentially did the same thing on different teams last year. blood clots aside, they are clones of each other and will have the same career. only slight differences will be based on the team surrounding them, much like the Morris Twins
they have the same floor and ceiling. They had the same rookie year. The only difference is team
Yes but everything else has to be other worldly, and even then you would still benefit massively by having a shot
Houston is the perfect sitation. Reed, Vanvleet, Cam whitmore, Dillon Brooks, Jabari smith jr, and even Sengun is shooting better. Obviously Jalen Green is hot and cold. Bt Amen's in the perfect situation
if draymond and ben could do it, so can he fr
Aaron gordon
They have different builds of course but I definitely think that’s a great comp even though I think Amen projects to be a better on-ball creator/driver
that's pretty good comp. ppl forget how much on ball duty Aaron Gordon had prior to Denver
I think he can still be really good. But, not a closer. Giannis, Simmons, are some recent examples. Even Lebron didn’t have a reliable jumper until halfway through his career.
No
Have we not learned from ben simmons? People asked the same questions and the answer is in todays nba is still no you cant be a star without a jumpshot. Its a key factor and you need to be insanely dominant in the paint like 20ppg in the paint unstoppable or just get a jumpshot. Hes gonna be just like ben if he doesnt get one no matter how good he is teams will just abuse his main weakness like they tried to do with giannis and did with ben why do we always do this? Even scottie barnes got a jumpshot to avoid the same issues as ben simmons in his SECOND YEAR they tried sagging into the paint.
bruh bro doesnt know giannis
@JustAnotherPerson55 As I said 20ppg in the paint. The only player who does it today Giannis. Gotta read thru my whole shi b4 responding😂
Not unless you're a big man.
ben simmons
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@@AlexHoops dope
Yes, speaking generally. But the Rockets need shooters. Except for Fred, our team is full of average and below average shooters. The Rockets have to get shooting from the 2 and 3. If Jalen doesnt figure it out and Amen has no outside shot, the Rockets wont move to the next level.
Bruh what? Rockets have a team of shooters, its the best situation. Sengun and Jabari Smith Jr are both willing 3 point shooters which is very rare to have 2 in any frontcourt. And Reed Sheppad and Vanvleet are great at the PG spot. Cam Whitmore had a good rookie shooting season and Jalen Green is hot and cold. Bt the main point being everyone around him is a willing shooter which is what is needed.
@@Shortballa11 Go look up their TS% and get back with me.
No lol. Giannas don't count
yes, if you are zion or giannis, they have great slashing ability and great strength that negate defense
Amen is my player. I threw out the term gen z magic Johnson and I was only slightly exaggerating. He has world class athletic gifts and sees the game already very well at 20 years old. I know it’s unpopular but I already think he’s better than jalen green.
Ill go a step further I think Amen and Cam whitmore are already better than Green. Future lineup should be Reed Sheppard, Cam Whitmore, Amen Thompson, Jabari Smith Jr, and Sengun. They all compliment each other
Giannis literally exist.
short answer is no .. but he can get paid like a star especially if he defense is elite
23 percent on jumpshots is unacceptable for a perimeter non big. Can’t take him seriously as a player. Exactly why I dropped him from one of my fantasy teams.
The story of Ben Simmons suggests that's not a viable strategy.
The story of Giannis suggests he only has to be just good enough to take them and make them when it counts.
Today's the day...
This is just ben simmons