The Death of Ethel Cain
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- In this episode, Robin dives deep into Ethel Cain's monumental debut album, Preacher's Daughter, breaking it down track-by-track.
The concept album is a haunting and intimate exploration of identity, sexuality, and religion, and tells the tragic story of the life and murder of the preacher's daughter, Ethel Cain.
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great video
I viewed ptolemaea as her experiencing the stabbing and violence from isaiah?
im pretty sure she dies at the end of potemaea when the death rattle sound plays
as mother once posted on her tum blr account "...august underground is the physical action of her murder..." so i think stella blue you are right!
Thank you for pointing that out! You are absolutely correct. I have no idea why I said "stabbed to DEATH" when she does officially die in the following song. Great catch. :)
Yeah I’ve always thought of it as Isaiah killing her during August Underground and that’s why it’s named after a snuff film.
I cry very little at media, but sun bleached flies makes me tear up whenever I listen.
This album is incredible in every way. As someone who loves true crime, both the sound and story of this album have me completely obsessed
i stumbled across Ethel and usually hate digging too much into artist's personal life as it often dispels the world i create in my head for them . Hayden blew my idea away with such a concise illustration of Ethel's galaxy . Trippy
I think the most interesting thing about Thoroughfare is the super long outro. Her vocal adlibs and the way the music starts to shift tone, to me, could be a glimpse of what is coming with Gibson Girl and Ptolemaea. I think she is starting to notice but she's still disassociating.
I had no idea this was a concept album.
Can David Lynch direct the movie?
i absolutely adore this album, and gibson girl is actually one of my favorites from it. i love the way it tells it story sonically, painting a picture of this world ethel is stuck in, and how she is again an unreliable narrator. throughout the song, she's trying to convince the listener that she is in control of what's happening. i also love observing this song outside of the immediate context of the album's story, because i think it's generally applicable to the way society teaches women to seek out male validation whilst trying to maintain the illusion that they're the ones in control. this is especially evident in the line "if you hate me, please don't tell me", in which she breaks out of that monotone, processed voice she sings in the rest of the song - she's pleading. there is also the way she subverts the initial impression of the song - the production is sultry and sexy, and she adresses the listener directly, calls us out on participating in this narrative. it's such an absolute masterpiece
this is so great, well done!! Hayden is a genius, Preacher's Daughter is THE masterpiece of the century imo
Thank you SO MUCH! I just saw her for the first time last night here in Nashville and I'm still coming down from the experience.
This album is absolutely the masterpiece of the century. She deserves the world.
A masterpiece of an album. Amazing breakdown
This is the first long podcast I heard in another language that is not Spanish. I am so fan of Ethel Cain. Thanks to her, I am writing poems about a little story talking about my religious traumas and romance experiences. Ethel is the first singer I listened to who talks about religion, family, expectations, and nostalgia in a deep and all-in-one way.
this was really great!! i'm obsessed with ethel cain but haven't been able to find any cohesive video explaining preacher's daughter until now. it's so haunting and beautiful
Thank you for this video loved it!
i’ve been looking for a video like this for ages, thank you for the great breakdown!!!
Thank you so much i've always wanted to listen to a break down of Preacher's Daughter but I couldn't find any, so thank you for this!
tysm for this video, i was looking for a cohesive explanation of the album!
omg ur amazing ily so much for making this video!! i love this album
Thank you for this breakdown!!!!!
Love how detailed your explaination is, thanks for that❤️
I’ve been looking for an explanation of this album since it came out last year. Thank you so much. I would love to hear all the details of everything.
So addicted to this album have been for the longest
This is so great to listen to after work
I’ve been listening to this album for a few months and it’s only this week I’m realizing it’s a concept album 😅 I never really paid attention to the lyrics or her social media posts so the whole album’s changed for me now
Thank you for the breakdown
THANK YOU! 🖤
Sending love from Alabama. Something about her music just makes me feel so understood. ♡ so sad I didn’t make the Nashville show but I know she’ll come back soon.
I feel the exact same way. She's incredible.
I initially thought that the person speaking at the end of Ptolemaea was the devil, considering the direct reference to Cain and Abel.
loved this
I really enjoy some of Ethel Cain's poppier songs, such as "Crush" and "American Teenager." Ethel Cain lore as a whole is both touching and terrifying, and literally affected my sleep for a while. Human trafficking is a long-time research interest of mine, so I appreciate your delving into the story of the track "Thoroughfare." Overall, I respect how she built the arc of this character, as someone who keeps trying to follow expectations and find love. And instead of being saved she just gets more hurt and trapped until she is eventually killed. I would like to hear some people's thoughts on the cannibalism at the end. Sometimes it feels like a fitting conclusion to this horror story, but sometimes I find it a step too far, almost turning the story into a joke. Bathetic rather than tragic, so to speak. What do you think?
thank u!
This is so good!! Could you tell me where you found the quote about thoroughfare and Stockholm syndrome? It’s super interesting
There's a pdf with tons of sources and stuff and there's a link on it that lead to Hayden saying that on Tumblr I believe.
I used the album as my q3 for ap lit, let’s just say I owe it all to meemaw
This album is my fav
this is one of the best albums i've ever listened to
As a new fan of Ethel Cain I still can’t figure out where everyone’s getting the names from. Willoughby? Logan? Isaiah?
Also side note 10k words in a first chapter alone is WILD and so interesting! A short story in it's entirety is as many words. We're talking between 20-40 pages depending on spacing, font, etc.
So hearing that only chapter one is more than 10k words has me shivering. We're about to get wrecked...
yess, all those names and little plottwists are indeed complicated! lucky for us, mother posts some explanations on her tum blr account now and then. you can just look it up and for example search on a particular name (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵) hope this helps ♡♡
and i think that after reading this book i won't ever touch another book again ヾ(｡>﹏
Where can I read this chapter? Does Ethel Cain have a book coming out? I need to know!
It reminds me of Johnette Napolitanos work i like it American goth good description
This lady is a genius
Untold Story:
Ethel, luxuriating in a hot bath, calls to Willoughby for a drink of squash.
Willoughby takes an age, but then returns with the tumber of orange squash, but also a bulging hot water bottle.
"...and here's the water bottle you wanted" he slavishly reported.
"Eh? I didn't ask for a _hot water bottle?_ What you talkin' 'bout Willoughby?"
"You did hon. Just as I was leaving to fetch your squash, you said: 'And wha'da'bouda water bottle, Willoughby?'
lol
(say it quickly)
👍🏼
deathel cain… I’ll see myself out
ETHEL NEVER DIES + NOBODY WILL HURT HER EVER: TRUST ME . UNLESS YOU WANT TO DIE.
Um, first of all, hell no I ain't trusting in you because you don't even know wtf is going on so I wanna ask you what planet are you from because down here on Earth she is dead as dead can be even served as a dinner entree by the killer for the killer to chow down and digest what true love means to him. In other words, get your fat head outta your stink-rotten ass so you can breathe.
god i love her
who is dale from american teenager tho...
@@sofiamielcitas4224dale earnhardt! a race car driver who passed away in a racing accident. she also has a song called earnhardt
Deathel Cain
Meemaw ❤
So does she still love Isaiah when he's eating her?
Really she die or that is a joke?
It’s just the lore/plot of the album the singer herself (real name Hayden) didn’t actually pass
She died :(
wait you’re friends with someone who created a snuff film?
It's a faux snuff film. Just a regular horror movie that's extra gory.
(17:30) I would rather suggest that Ethel was deeply in love with _the house on the prairie in Nebraska_
Willoughby was just the provider of such.
(Ethel _could_ just get off her ass and provide _herself_ with a house, but hey, who the fuck wants gender equality, eh?)