5 CRITERIA for a CALIPH + Political Theory in Early Islam

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  • @HISTORYUN
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  • @baronghede2365
    @baronghede2365 Місяць тому +23

    Hello everyone from Alabama; i am a non-muslim and have great respect for many Muslims around the world, Blessed Be.

    • @harriskhan7671
      @harriskhan7671 29 днів тому +1

      thank you from the u.k.

    • @iman7j887
      @iman7j887 21 день тому +1

      Read Quran brother and listen to commentaries of the verses, also listen to lectures of Shia scholars, you will see God never left us alone without guidance as we have infallible imams and their examples their books and guidance and rulling ETCETC.

    • @iman7j887
      @iman7j887 21 день тому +1

      Oh sorry man, lol, I thought u needed help and tips about Islam. I Apologies. And may God bless u and ur loved ones

  • @FolkeBernadotte2
    @FolkeBernadotte2 29 днів тому +4

    I can safely say that almost all of the Arab dictators miss the 2 most important factors mentioned in the video:
    - they’re incompetent
    - they ain’t trust worthy

  • @JackChit-pv3dj
    @JackChit-pv3dj Місяць тому +20

    Brother, I appreciate your knowledge and time you put in your research

  • @mirzafaisalbaigfaisal6324
    @mirzafaisalbaigfaisal6324 Місяць тому +16

    FULL HAIDTH : You should obey your leader even if he is habashi but on the condition that he calls you towards ALLAH and His Rasool.

    • @honestlife1498
      @honestlife1498 Місяць тому +1

      YESS

    • @JayKahns
      @JayKahns Місяць тому

      Why does it even need to be stated what they are? Clearly there’s an issue there? Or they were ill received?

    • @lox834
      @lox834 Місяць тому +9

      @@JayKahns it clearly to stay away from racism

    • @Faviomec
      @Faviomec Місяць тому +8

      @@JayKahns the Abyssinians in recent history had marched to destroy the Kaabah, so there was tension between them and the Arabs.
      This was telling them to obey the leader regardless of race as long as they call towards Allah.

    • @AamirAliyoutube
      @AamirAliyoutube 29 днів тому

      Pretty racist

  • @Exshia-wj3op
    @Exshia-wj3op Місяць тому +9

    Rebellion against unjust rulers is allowed there is no restriction against it

    • @cOnfidentialcOrp
      @cOnfidentialcOrp 26 днів тому +1

      Shaikh Al-Islām Abu ʿUthmān Ismāʿeel As-Sābooni (died 449H) stated: “Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamāʿah do not hold that it is permissible to revolt against them (the rulers) even if they see from them abandoning justice and replacing it with tyranny and injury…” He ended his treatise with, “These sentences which I have affirmed in this chapter were the Creed of all of them (i.e. the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah). None of them differed regarding it with each other. Rather, they agreed by ijmāʿ with it all.” (See ʿAqīdatus-Salaf As-hābul-Hadeeth, p. 32)

    • @Nimyra
      @Nimyra 23 дні тому +1

      @@cOnfidentialcOrponly paid imams at the time abolished rebellion against unjust tyrannical leaders. Allah makes it clear with the story of pharaoh.
      If you don’t rebel you will never create the kingdom of heavens on earth

    • @Exshia-wj3op
      @Exshia-wj3op День тому

      @@cOnfidentialcOrp there is no ijmaa

  • @02saaqibali
    @02saaqibali Місяць тому +8

    There are some revivalist movements that have delved very deep into this discussion alhamdulillah and I think its much needed. A revival is taking place and understanding these key discussion is vital for this ummah to move forward. Living within the ststus quo has only made things worse. We must broaden our thining as to what gave this ummah 'izzah (honour).
    Keep posting clips like these brother, maybe in the form of UA-cam shorts so the word can spread.

    • @servantofthemerciful3511
      @servantofthemerciful3511 Місяць тому +1

      It's of no use unless people don't do justice to Ahlul Bayt Alaihisalam.

    • @02saaqibali
      @02saaqibali Місяць тому +1

      @@servantofthemerciful3511 Of course it's of use dear brother/sister. We have to break out of that mindset. The only time the ummah was united was under an islamic leadership and we need to recognise that and move on.

  • @Ilk-adimmusluman-soy-adimTurk.
    @Ilk-adimmusluman-soy-adimTurk. Місяць тому +2

    Very appreciated

  • @AllAboutIslam_True
    @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому +5

    Please do a video on the ibadis!!!

    • @artregeous
      @artregeous Місяць тому

      As an African Muslim he should do that first about ibadis but kharidjis would be way better but he is not that deep

  • @mohamedmouallem9721
    @mohamedmouallem9721 Місяць тому +1

    JazakAllah kheir. Which series/module was this clip taken from?

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +1

      This is from the Umayyad Kingdom, unit U02 (3 hours)
      Barakallahu Feekum

    • @AliMuhammad-ze7le
      @AliMuhammad-ze7le Місяць тому

      Can you release a longer version of this video where u mention the Shia school and the kharijite school

  • @mayachaya7431
    @mayachaya7431 Місяць тому

    Is there full videos in you tube?

  • @mkap6046
    @mkap6046 Місяць тому

    I read that a correct traslation should be that his 'hair is like dried raisin' because it is refering to that which is attached to the head.

  • @AllAboutIslam_True
    @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому +1

    Please talk about the Ibadis and the history of Ahlu haqq wa istiqama

  • @faristotle2979
    @faristotle2979 Місяць тому

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
    Can you make a video on the Qureshi part?

  • @ninetyeight98809
    @ninetyeight98809 Місяць тому

    Do you have the full video of this

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +1

      These are brief extracts from the annual program available via our website www.historyun.com
      Live sessions are held every fortnight (3 hours each) with currently over 24 hours of on-demand video content from past lectures.

  • @abdiazizhamza5866
    @abdiazizhamza5866 Місяць тому +6

    Who are the xabash exactly ? Is it just the Christian abysinnians or does it include Cushitic nations like Somalis and afar?

    • @Sa7biUK
      @Sa7biUK Місяць тому +2

      The Habesha are the Tigray, Amharic and Oromo peoples

    • @notitle9941
      @notitle9941 Місяць тому

      No Somalis AND AFAR are not HABESHa the word HABESHA literally means mixed people Somalis and anfars were known as belatal Berber from Berbera

    • @notitle9941
      @notitle9941 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Sa7biUK I am sorry to break it to you but oromo are not HABESHa they are Cushitic and are a recent arrival there ancestors home is from lake tana and only moved into middle of Ethiopia in the 1700 so HABESHa is only the semetic speaking people of the horn I am. Somali from Somaliland so I know what I am talking about read futuj al habes then you will know oromo are new to the Highlands

    • @ahmadibnabubakral-habashi
      @ahmadibnabubakral-habashi Місяць тому +1

      Habash includes Ethiopia Eritrea Somalia Djibouti Comoros Mayotte Madagascar Kenya Tanzania Zambia Zimbabwe Uganda Rwanda Burundi Botswana South Africa it includes Cushitic countries and Bantu countries as well Zanj was a part of Habash as well

  • @sucrecalderon
    @sucrecalderon Місяць тому

    When you can find ,,can you make a video about sahabe Ali rh and his rules of government, where he had even for grammar a position that been given to a sahabe

  • @TaherAlJaghbeer-yg6ku
    @TaherAlJaghbeer-yg6ku День тому

    why does the video end with an AD? wtf?? and where is the complete video?

  • @ajay777-lm3po
    @ajay777-lm3po Місяць тому

    Left us hanging...whats missing ? where is part 2 or full lecture ?

  • @mizzylizzy565
    @mizzylizzy565 Місяць тому

    Im guessing that the one thing missing from the list is military strength?

  • @AllAboutIslam_True
    @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому

    Please do a video on Abu bilal mirdas RH

  • @moussatubecc2153
    @moussatubecc2153 Місяць тому +1

    Sahih al-Bukhari 7142
    Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."

  • @AllAboutIslam_True
    @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому

    Please talk about the suffryia khawarij

  • @the3lusive
    @the3lusive Місяць тому

    Does anyone know what is missing from the list?

    • @artregeous
      @artregeous Місяць тому

      Kharidjis or ibadis ?lmao

    • @nin1269
      @nin1269 Місяць тому

      That he be "ahlu bait"
      That is a condition for the shiates but not the sunnis

    • @harriskhan7671
      @harriskhan7671 29 днів тому

      @@nin1269 The Shia are just making loud noise about it but in reality, even they won't allow someone from the prophet (saw) family look at Iran.

  • @aissau5091
    @aissau5091 Місяць тому

    Thanks akhi can you recommend 3 Islamic books to gain wisdom

    • @mutiur7396
      @mutiur7396 Місяць тому

      Read tafseer of Quran...

  • @sacripan8915
    @sacripan8915 Місяць тому +4

    So what was it that was missing 😂?

  • @Revitalization4241
    @Revitalization4241 Місяць тому +1

    Correct me if i am wrong but according Maliki, Hanbali, Shafi and Zahiri a Caliph must be from Quraysh otherwise it won't be accepted.
    Only the Hanafi allowes a non-Arab to be a Caliph.

  • @senoadjiaditya1535
    @senoadjiaditya1535 Місяць тому

    One criteria that missing from Sunni perspective, is : HE HAS TO BE A DESCENDANT OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAW.
    Everyone could be a Caliph, whether he has direct lineage with the Prophet or not.

  • @sofianebl9927
    @sofianebl9927 29 днів тому

    what is missing from the list is that the ruler must apply the islamic law strictly, if he doesn't do that then he doesn't have the juridiction to rule over Muslims no mather what other positive criterias he has.

  • @AtlanticWirelessZA
    @AtlanticWirelessZA Місяць тому

    How did Shiism move from a political affiliation to a theological school of thought?

  • @muhammadedwards8425
    @muhammadedwards8425 Місяць тому +4

    Muawiya literally breaks two conditions. One probity, two he made turned khilafa into a dynasty

  • @mastmalang70hk
    @mastmalang70hk Місяць тому

    piousness,piety

  • @moussatubecc2153
    @moussatubecc2153 Місяць тому +1

    The most powerful people in the world are above all those who practice their ancestral spirituality their mother tongue culture and ancestral tradition Without wanting to develop The paradigms of other foreign peoples

  • @mustafa.01117
    @mustafa.01117 Місяць тому +1

    Salaam brother, could you please make a video on Sheikh Abaadir Umar Al-Rida(Hejazi Saint), a legend who impaced Harar and somalia, one who united people to islam. His descent and story. Barakallahu Feekum.

  • @24xv555
    @24xv555 Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @justworship0570
    @justworship0570 Місяць тому

  • @JetonHoxha99
    @JetonHoxha99 Місяць тому

    Having a caliph father.

  • @ImamZaydInstitute
    @ImamZaydInstitute Місяць тому +1

    Justice is missing from the list!

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +2

      💯

    • @ImamZaydInstitute
      @ImamZaydInstitute Місяць тому +4

      @@HISTORYUN how ironic is it that they made quraysh a condition but not justice which is basically applying the sharia! I gusss this suited the Umayyads Abbasid tyrants

    • @AllAboutIslam_True
      @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому +1

      @@ImamZaydInstituteto be fair the Zaydis made being a Sayyid a requirement which is also tribalistic. Wheras the Ibadis say whoever is the most pious/ learned and competent should be the Imam (leader)

  • @unitor699industries
    @unitor699industries Місяць тому

    where is the fucking full video??

  • @muhammadhaydar3073
    @muhammadhaydar3073 Місяць тому

    Shiism is fully a theological current which is not only based on the succession of the Prophet (peace be upon him and his family) but finds its foundations in the Koran and tradition. Ignoring what Shiism is does not allow you to repeat like a parrot the absurdities told for centuries by the enemies of the Prophet and his family (peace be upon him and his purified family).

  • @HashimTheRafidhi
    @HashimTheRafidhi Місяць тому

    Brother i must correct you. Shia and Sunni Muslims disagree on the method of choosing a Caliphate. Sunnis see it as a political appointment (ie Muslims get to decide their ruler) while Shia believe the Caliph is strictly divinely appointed. Claiming it's just politics and not religious is either ignorant at best or dishonest at worst.

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +2

      Or it could be an interpretation that you are not familiar with. Not everything that opposes your own understanding has to be misguided or ignorant. Mature a little

  • @deolax1
    @deolax1 29 днів тому

    As’Salaam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh “Abyssinian” was eponym for the black race in classical Arabia of the period. And the term was not geographical in Arabian etymology; it did not mean a foreign adversarial state. And it certainly did not mean a slave, even though many dark skinned people had slave lineage. There are narrations of Abyssinian fighters training in the Prophet’s (SAW) masjid, while Aisha (RAA) looked on from behind him. We have to be careful in these elaborate exegeses, so that we do not impute our own derivations into the narration.

  • @user-id2vv2oy4c
    @user-id2vv2oy4c Місяць тому

    The stipulation of being a quraishi means the individual should have some link to the quraish, and the first ottoman othman married the daughter of his sheikh who was from from a syed background. Sheikh adibe.

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      Islam (and Arabic culture) is strictly patrilineal, Jewish culture is the one that recognises matrilineal heritage.

  • @rickyalfred9710
    @rickyalfred9710 Місяць тому +1

    Muawiyah doesn’t have Adaala this assertion is from ibn Khalduns nasibi background within the ummayid caliphate in Spain.

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +3

      By unanimous consent, Mu'awiyyah's reign was objectively the most successful up until his time. He was also the only governor to reign under multiple Rashidun Caliphs without once having been removed from his post.
      He fulfilled the condition of Adala and was entrusted by Al-Hassan as a result.
      Further details of the normative Sunni position (from a historical perspective) is covered in depth as part of the complete module on this topic.
      We should be careful with certain statements, Ibn Khaldun was by no means not alone in his judgement and commentary in this regard
      Barakallahu Feekum

    • @sucrecalderon
      @sucrecalderon Місяць тому +1

      Exactly and a sahih hadith mention it well ,,sahabe Ali rh is the door ,prophet Muhammed sav the way and Muaviye rh the heart of islam ​@@HISTORYUN

    • @Farrukhsiyar159
      @Farrukhsiyar159 Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN what was the missing condition that you cut out at the end? Is it to be from the lineage of the Prophet (saas)?

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      ​@@sucrecalderonthat sounds like a fabrication to be honest. We only have 2/3 Sahih Ahadith from Sayyidna Mu'awiyyah and there are related by him, they are nothing close to what is claimed here.
      Can you send a reference/citation for this supposed Sahih Hadith, it would be very valuable knowledge for us
      Barakallahu Feekum

    • @sucrecalderon
      @sucrecalderon Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN i am not at home but tomorrow i guess i am able to send it

  • @Khuyayn
    @Khuyayn Місяць тому +2

    3:12 The Abyssinians were enemies with the Arabs? The Prophet pbuh did send his companions to Abyssinia. And then the pagan Arabs send “diplomats” to Nejashi, for him to deliver the companions to the pagans. So which Arabs were enemies with the Abyssinians at that time?
    Why specially say an “Ethiopian/abyssinian” and not just say a person with a raisin head?

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +1

      It is the equivalent of telling Chinese soldiers to obey a Japanese commander. And the Aksumite empire has attempted to march upon Makkah and demolish the Ka'bah only 60 years prior, so it's not difficult to understand why the Arabs would have some level of enmity towards them. Yes, the Negus helped the early Muslims migrants, but that was the exception not the rule, the Aksumite empire has conquered Yemen and were considered colonisers by Arabs in general
      A person with a raisin head only touches upon one of the key points (that of a disability or physical ailment), not the others (i.e. lack of freedom as a slave and political rivalry as an Abyssinian).
      It would be the equivalent of telling the American senate to pledge their loyalty to Mullah Omar when he was alive
      "Be patriots by pledging loyalty to the president even if he were a one eyes Afghan prisoner of war"
      It's Hyperbole, a rhetorical device used to draw the immediate attention of the listener and to etch a message in their memory. Not to be taken literally

    • @Nobody-yq9fk
      @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUNUmar was Abyssinian on his father’s side. Bilal was Abyssinian on his mother’s side. Our prophet was breastfed by an Abyssinian. Only Negus of Ethiopia accepted the letter sent to the three kings. The prophet said specifically not to attack Abyssinia. So much more evidence… they aren’t enemies of the Arabs. Yemen and Ethiopia were having disputes about Judaism and Christianity, that’s why Abyssinians invaded. And Allah gave them victory for 100 years. The thing they did wrong was attack the Ka’ba. Not to mention that Abyssinians were waiting for the prophet in Medina and knew about him. The prophet even referred to them as Jews.

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      @@Nobody-yq9fk that sounds pleasant however it is wishful thinking and not based in reality.
      Everything you have cited it coming from early Muslim interactions and very specific instances that did not and do not represent the general sentiment held by Arabs as a whole.
      The fact of the matter is that Arabs in general still curse the grave of Abū Righāl, he was an Arab who cooperated with Abraha. The bitter sentiment of his betrayal still remains to this day as people pelt the site where is he buried.
      If you want further evidence, ask the Yemeni about the Akhdaam, the descendents of the Ethiopians who remained in Yemen following the Abyssinian retreat. To this day, they are marginalised and the enmity remains as a result of the Ethiopian presence on the continent.
      There are many more examples but there isn't sufficient space nor enough time to waste on a topic that is so evident and clear.
      And there is nothing wrong with the Arabs having a bitter aftertaste considering the fact that they were colonised and also on the verge of having their most sacred site totally desecrated and annihilated. It's got nothing to do with race, everything to do with the history and experience
      The same would apply to the modern Chinese vis-a-vis the Japanese occupation....

    • @Nobody-yq9fk
      @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN You’re right about the first two paragraphs, but I’m not debating that. I’m debating the fact that “Ethiopians are enemies to Arabs”. Abraha was a collaborator with Roman psuedo Christian trinitarian pagans. When the Quran mentioned ‘nasara’ he was mentioning the Nazarene Christian’s who were in Abyssinia, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Arabia, and greater Sham. Little by little they dwindled but the majority of believing Muslim Nasara were in Abyssinia. They still pray like Muslims in Lalibella to this day. The Arabs would’ve never learned about Christianity or even Judaism if it wasn’t for Ethiopians, Iraqis, and Syrians. Even Roman’s. This is a long discussion. Ethiopians and Arabs aren’t sworn enemies. Arabs and Abyssinians have been trading and marrying together since the time of the kingdom of Saba and the queen who met Sulayman. Maybe I’m being biased because I’m Abyssinian, but the reason why two orphans who are breastfed by the same person aren’t able to marry is because they become brothers by DNA. Hamza and Muhammad saw were brothers because breastmilk carries dna that shapes your face and your bones. This is a proven fact. Allah would never humiliate his most beloved creation by being breastfed by an enemy. But… I understand where you’re coming from. There is just a lot of nuance and context to these bland statements and of course I understand that these podcasts would be 5 hrs long if you had to explain all of it. I just want the people in the comment section to understand that statements have nuance and meaning that may seemingly contradict, but might both be true at the same time.

    • @Nobody-yq9fk
      @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN Al Akdam are not all Abyssinian. the Mahri or Al Mahra is the same as Am (Al in proto Semitic language) as Amhara. There are Yemenis and Abyssinians all over Yemen and Abyssinia. I don’t understand how you can call yourself a historian and you don’t understand conquests and migration. How do you think there are millions of central Asians and Turks in Turkey today? Or Persia? Or wherever else they invaded and settled. This isn’t as cut and dry as you say.

  • @AnonymousPerson-hr6qd
    @AnonymousPerson-hr6qd Місяць тому

    Its funny how this guys uses warriors picture as kharijite.

  • @abdullatiif
    @abdullatiif Місяць тому

    We shouldn't try to interpret this, unless we have something from the Prophet or an explanation from the Companions or those after them or go to the scholars and see what their qiyas is and even then we should say the opinion of fulan, fulan and leave it at that ! And you have to understand that they knew what he meant so it was clear to them !

  • @mshafimd
    @mshafimd Місяць тому +2

    shia or sunni, who rules or not rules, but what they had done to Hassan, Husain is not at all acceptable.
    even during caliph of Abubakkar, if they had hurt Fatima rali allahu anha, then its also crime.
    Remember the hadith, some of the known companions will not be allowed to drink from hawl al kawther even though Prophet sallahu alahi waslam says i know them....

    • @servantofthemerciful3511
      @servantofthemerciful3511 Місяць тому +1

      Abu Bakr didn't hurt Fatimah Alaihisalam Hussain Alaihisalam did made dua for Abu Bakr Radi'Allahu Anhu Omar Radi'Allahu Anhu. He was pleased with their reign. Read the full letter of Hussain Alaihisalam to peace of Basra. Problem started actually from Mawviya. The three khulafa are innocent of accuse including Aisha Radi'Allahu Anha

    • @Hezbollah313
      @Hezbollah313 Місяць тому

      Even he said he raised her house when stating the three things he regretted during his life while in his deathbed

  • @ibrahimbinmohiuddin1493
    @ibrahimbinmohiuddin1493 Місяць тому

    Biggest lie ever told after the wafat of Rasulallah (swas) is, Leadership belongs to Quraish only. Allah sent His messenger to unite people by destroying any discrimination on the basis of blood, color, tribe or nationality and make them worship one God only. But people after prophet (swas) lied in the name of the prophet, buried his body without Janazah and established Quraish later on Arab supremacy.

  • @ahassan5
    @ahassan5 Місяць тому +3

    All of Africa was called Habash, including the Somalis who controlled all the coasts of East Africa. How did the sahabas enter Ethiopia without crossing Somalia first 🇸🇴?

    • @fadelomar2744
      @fadelomar2744 Місяць тому +2

      Facts Ethiopia has no access to water, they surely had to pass through somalia

  • @zeenathbaig2203
    @zeenathbaig2203 Місяць тому

    Ditect lineage with the Prophet pbuh

  • @muhammadedwards8425
    @muhammadedwards8425 Місяць тому +1

    Muawiya failed at probity.
    Also there are two more conditions, the Caliphate CAN NOT be a dynasty. And a difference of opinion, can not be a Hashemite out of fear for the first condition

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      1. Mu'awiyyah was the ONLY governor who served under ALL the Khulapha Rashidun and was never removed from his post, ever.
      2. There are only 5 conditions stated by the scholars of the Sunni school, there are no 6th conditions other than in the Shi'a or Kharijite schools (as covered in the full lecture here).

    • @muhammadedwards8425
      @muhammadedwards8425 Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN By later Sunni scholars yes, but we should also listen to the demands of the previous caliphs (as the maliki school does) who had a condition of dynastic succession being haram. The faults of Yazid is on Muawiya who gave him that power on relation and not piety. Also there is ijtihad on quraishi condition being haram as well (Ali was particularly stern with this). Both of those were likely influenced by Ummayyads to justify their rule

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      Agreed, however the Sunni school is pragmatic and has had to adapt political theory to actual reality with the advantage of retrospective knowledge (something that the earlier schools didn't have)
      Political theory has been shifted with the advent of Umayyads and the arrival of the Mongols.
      In an ideal world, the list would be more comprehensive and certainly more prescriptive, however the reality does not give much room and the fear of Sunni scholars is that having too prescriptive a set of rules could lead to endless cycles of revolution and rebellion (because most kings fell short of the ideal standard set by Islam anyway). It's an interesting discussion nevertheless

    • @muhammadedwards8425
      @muhammadedwards8425 Місяць тому

      We've had an endless succession of failed monarchies instead. We should choose to learn. The Ulamah failed in its ijtihad except for those who stayed true to meritocracy. "Khilafa" Dynasties are haram and the next will not be Quraish or a tyrant

  • @abelo2305
    @abelo2305 Місяць тому

    Qurayshi lineage Abrogated? This is the view of the jumhur, how could something be abrogated without any nusūs?

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      The same way cutting the hand of the thief was suspended during the year of Famine in Madinah. Baqillani explained why this condition was no longer practical in his day and age (and the video is clear in that when the condition is reinstated, so is the rule)

    • @abelo2305
      @abelo2305 Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN the issue I have is the term *abrogated* sure you could say that the condition wouldn’t apply in this case (although I disagree) but to say abrogated is falsehood

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      @@abelo2305 We will have to agree to disagree. The text says abrogated and it has been conveyed as such, context was provided following the statement. Barakallahu Feekum

    • @abelo2305
      @abelo2305 Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN wa feek

  • @mutiur7396
    @mutiur7396 Місяць тому

    Are you saying muslims uprise are because of poverty, needing more freedom or due to bad/un islamic governance, lawlessness?

  • @sabeehkhan8071
    @sabeehkhan8071 Місяць тому

    Well brother, historical facts can't be denied through own bias and quoting zaeef ahadees. Few questions for you, hope you would think and try stopping yourself from misleading simple souls.
    1. You quoted a Zaeef hadees. Okay, for your concern let's consider it right for a while. Did Muaviyah followed the Muslim ruler of his time or did he conspire?
    2. Probity! Just few selected events from the life of Muaviyah
    a. Declaring Ziyad son of Sumaayah as his illegitimate brother ( check ahadees on the matter)
    b. Originating Amarat in Islamic ruling claiming to be competing Romans (against the teachings of Prophet PBUH)
    c. Killing of Shaba in cold blood while in his custody (Hazrat Hair Bin Adi and his companions)
    d. Starting cursing tradition on Hazrat Ali Karam Ullah Wajhoh in Friday sermon, the filthy tradition that continued for decades.
    e. Killing of Hazrat Hasan R.A (being clarified through many resources)
    f. Not fulfilling any of the conditions of Sulah with Hazrat Hasan R.A (what more Yiu want of probity)
    g. Putting forward Yazeed knowing he is the worst of choices and putting all ummah in fitnah
    h. Killing of thousands of sahaba in wars against rightful Caliph Hazrat Ali R.A
    3. As for knowledge, he initiated the wicked politics which involves all immoral acts in order to fortify ones rule. So yes we can say that he set an evil example and constituted ways and means being followed by all oppressors in todays world.
    4. As for fitness, it's written in history books that he was abnormally obese due to his eating habits as a result of Prophet's baddua written in revered Ahle sunnah ahadees books
    5. As for your definition, Namrood, Firaun were quite competitive. Check history, they had such a control over masses, they were wealthy and caused progress in their ears, however they questioned Allah's authority, SA e for Moaviah
    * Plus you misquoted being intellectually dishonest when you said that Shia movement was just political in beginning. Shias, have lots of references including Ghadeer where Prophet delivered clearly (Man Kunto Maula Fahaza Aliun Maula), being a continuous hadees!
    Many books could be written however I have just provided some references to research oriented minds. So brother, it's an advice to stop imposing wrong history and interpretation upon simple souls
    Regards

  • @Amgrabi
    @Amgrabi Місяць тому

    M6 van Marokko voldoet aan alle voorwaarde om de islamitische wereld te leiden.

  • @alfellati
    @alfellati Місяць тому

    Did you just say that the Quraish don’t exist?

    • @Nobody-yq9fk
      @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому

      Yes. They do exist. Many muslims have hatred for them

  • @ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
    @ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 Місяць тому

    0:31
    Not true unfortunately shia raised the twelve imams to the level even beyond the prophethood

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      It was clearly mentioned that the Tashayyu' of that epoch was purely political and not yet theological. Many Sahabah took the political position of supporting Ali, so they were Shiat Ali from that standing.
      It's grossly anachronistic to apply what the 12er Shi'a believe today - back onto those alive during the lifetime of Imam Ali ('Aleihi Salaam).

  • @Exshia-wj3op
    @Exshia-wj3op Місяць тому +2

    There is no obedience if the ruler is corrupt or tyrant or unjust

  • @Nobody-yq9fk
    @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому +1

    It has never been abrogated that the requirement for caliphate is to be from Quraysh. Muslims just decided to disobey the prophet. That’s why we live as humiliated people. Muslims today are like those who argued about the rulership of Talut.

    • @nasrhussain9126
      @nasrhussain9126 Місяць тому

      There is no requirement that he must be of Quraish.

    • @Nobody-yq9fk
      @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому

      @@nasrhussain9126 The Hadith are so clear on this I know you don’t know anything about what you’re talking about. The last few Hadith are talking about you and the people that gave birth to you.
      "Islam will continue to be triumphant until there have been twelve Caliphs, all of them from Quraysh." (Muslim)
      "Verily this matter [of rule] shall [remain] in Quraysh so long as when they are asked for mercy, they show mercy, when they rule, they are just, and when they distribute, they are equitable, so whoever from them does not do this, then upon him is the curse of Allah, the angels and all of humankind, and compulsory acts and voluntary acts will not be accepted from him" (Ahmad, al-Bazzar, al-Tabrani with trustworthy narrators as cited in Majma al-Zawa'id (5:193))
      Allah's Messenger (saw) said to Quraysh, "Verily this matter [of rule] shall [remain] among you and you shall remain in charge of it, until you innovate actions [that deprives you of Allah's support], and when you do this, Allah shall impose upon you the worst of His creation which will tear you apart just as a stick is torn apart." (Ahmad, al-Tabrani, Ahmad)
      Sahih al-Bukhari 7140
      Narrated Ibn `Umar:
      Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "This matter (caliphate) will remain with the Quraish even if only two of them were still existing."
      Sahih Muslim 1821 d
      It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir b. Samura who said:
      I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: Islam will continue to be triumphant until there have been twelve Caliphs. Then the Prophet (ﷺ) said something which I could not understand. I asked my father: What did he say? He said: He has said that all of them (twelve Caliphs) will be from the Quraish.
      “People are subservient to Quraysh in this matter: the Muslims among them [being subservient] to the Muslims among them, and the disbelievers among them [being subservient] to the disbelievers among them.” (Sahih Muslim)
      "This matter will remain in Quraysh, so long as two of them remain" (Muslim, Volume 9, Book 89, Number 254)
      'This matter (of the caliphate) will remain with the Quraish, and none will rebel against them, but Allah will throw him down on his face as long as they stick to the rules and regulations of the religion (Islam).'" (Muslim, Volume 9, Book 89, Number 253)
      It was narrated that Jaabir ibn Samurah said: I entered upon the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) with my father, and I heard him say: “This matter will not end until there have been among them twelve caliphs.” Then he said something that I could not hear, and I said to my father: What did he say? He said: “All of them will be from Quraysh.” Narrated by al-Bukhari (no. 7222); Muslim (no. 1821).
      (al-Bukhaari) it says: “There will be twelve rulers.” Then he said something I did not hear, and my father said that he said: “All of them will be from Quraysh.”
      Sahih Bukhari 4.56.704:
      …Beware of such hopes as make the people go astray, for I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, ‘Authority of ruling will remain with Quraish, and whoever bears hostility to them, Allah will destroy him as long as they abide by the laws of the religion.’ “
      Abu Bakr: “The Arabs (in general) they will not submit regarding this affair except to this group of Quraysh.”
      Nuaym bin Hammad Kitab Al Fitan 25
      Hudhayfa: The Hour will not arise until you kill your imam, draw your swords, and the evilest of you inherit this world
      “The Hour will not come until Allah takes away the. best people on earth; only the worst people will be left”
      Nuaym bin Hammad Kitab Al Fitan 500-501
      Abt Bakr b. Hazm??: The Prophet said: “This world will not go until it belongs to an idiot son of an idiot.”
      Hudhayfa: The Prophet said: “The Hour will not arise until the most felicitous of the people is an idiot son of an idiot.”

    • @Nobody-yq9fk
      @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому

      @@nasrhussain9126 there is. The fact that you don’t know this is an example of why this current Muslim umma is being humiliated. The Shia argued that he should be from Ali. There was always consensus even from the first Shura council of Abu Bakr that it has to be from Quraysh. Even the ansar understood this. That’s why the first non Qurayshi to ever claim any type of rulership over Muslims was a Turkic. You are probably a Turk. All of the Hadith about this are mutawatir how don’t you know this

    • @nasrhussain9126
      @nasrhussain9126 Місяць тому

      @@Nobody-yq9fk Can you provide one authentic Hadeeth requiring this?

    • @Nobody-yq9fk
      @Nobody-yq9fk Місяць тому

      @@nasrhussain9126 I already did

  • @truth-seeker33
    @truth-seeker33 Місяць тому

    Who are the Quraish today?

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому

      Royal House of Morocco & Jordan

    • @truth-seeker33
      @truth-seeker33 Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUNso you believe it is likely that the Mahdi is Moroccan or Jordanian?

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +1

      False inference, fallacious conclusion....
      "Chinese mothers gave birth to children, Obama is somebody's child.... therefore his mother was Chinese!"
      The Mahdi will be from Madinah. It's possible to be an Ashraf and from Quraish without being a descendant of the Moroccan or Jordanian dynasty

    • @truth-seeker33
      @truth-seeker33 Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUNplease examine this narration from a book called Asratu Sa’at.
      Translation:
      الصحيح في صفاته أنه آدم، ضرب من الرجال ربعة أجلي الجبهة، أقني الأنف أشمه أزج أبلج، أعين أكحل العينين، براق الثنايا، كث اللحية في كتفه علامة النبي صلي الله عليه وسلم أذيل الفخذين لونه لون عربي و جسمه جسم إسرائيلي في لسانه ثقل و إذا أبطأ عليه الكلام ضرب الأيسر بيده اليمني، ابن أربعين سنة و في رواية ما بين الثلاثين إلي للأربعين
      What is correct about his characteristics is that he is black, a type of man with a four-pointed forehead (broad forehand) a pointed nose, a prominent nose, dark-coloured eyes, shiny contours, a thick beard on his shoulder, a sign of the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, gap on the thighs (broad thighs big/long bones), an Arab color (dark complexion) and his body is an Israeli body, and his tongue has heaviness.
      When his tongue gets heavy and his words became slow (to speak), he hits his left thigh with his right hand.
      Son of forty years old, (classical Arabic way of saying he is of that age son of..) and according to a narration, he is between thirty and forty.

  • @TheSlaveOfAllah1992
    @TheSlaveOfAllah1992 Місяць тому +1

    The Kalifah is chosen by Ahlul 'ilm, and the requirements of the Kalifah are more than 5 conditions.
    The Hadith you mentioned is interesting, there is also one in Muslim, where the Prophet Muhammed, salalahu aleyhi wa salam, said, If a black slave with a mutilated nose is appointed to govern you, and he leads you according to the Book of Allah, then listen to him and obey.
    It highlights the importance of obeying the ruler regardless of his appearance.
    When the fitnah occurred between the Noble Companions, radiyallahu anhuma, you have one group that wanted the killers of Uthman to be brought in to justice and one group which is Ali, wanted to wait becouse of the fitnah but both of them agreed to bring the killers of Uthman into justice, however, they differed in to when.
    The first sect that appeared in Islam, was the khawarij, then from them came shia out. Abdullah ibn saba, the founder of shiism, claimed Ali was god, and he cast aspersion against the 3 khulafa rashidiin, Ali, told them to repent, they refused, he burned them alive, however, Abdullah ibn saba fled to another country and spread his disease.

    • @mshafimd
      @mshafimd Місяць тому

      ruling according to the book of ALLAH that is important, rest and all is not important. that's what Prophet sallahu alahi wasalam wants to stress.

    • @servantofthemerciful3511
      @servantofthemerciful3511 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@mshafimd what he said is fake .

    • @servantofthemerciful3511
      @servantofthemerciful3511 Місяць тому

      Why are you spreading fake information if you don't know don't misinform. The narrative you are presenting is given by Nasbi which is lie . You will be answerable to Allah Azzawajal for sharing false information. Fear Allah Azzawajal. Audhubillah.

    • @sarahkareem1251
      @sarahkareem1251 Місяць тому +1

      Killing someone by burning them alive isn't permissible in Islam. It's not possible that Imam Ali would have gone against the rulings of Islam to punish a man.
      There isn't enough historical evidence to support the tale of Abdullah ibn Saba. He was first mentioned by Sayf ibn Umar who lived around a century after the supposed ibn Saba's lifetime and about whom many scholars including Abu Dawud said was unreliable.

  • @JefekBlaltek
    @JefekBlaltek Місяць тому

    Just

  • @786AbdulSalamKhan
    @786AbdulSalamKhan Місяць тому +3

    I’m unsure why we feel the need to only single out that Shi’ism as a theological school was a later development? This seems like sectarian bias since you’ve neglected to mention that Sunnism as a theological school is also considered a later development both by non-Sunni Muslims and by academia. Just as an example the idea of the four Rashidun caliphs became solidified as a doctrine primarily through Ahmad b. Hanbal.

    • @Iamfsaly
      @Iamfsaly Місяць тому +1

      What’s the most authentic Shia book?

    • @AllAboutIslam_True
      @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому

      @@IamfsalyI’m not Shia but the most authentic book of the Shia is the Musad of imam Zayd RH. That of the Zaydi school.

    • @Iamfsaly
      @Iamfsaly Місяць тому +1

      @@AllAboutIslam_True The book is not authentically attributed to imam zaid ibn Ali because the sanad goes back to amr bin Khalid Al-Wasiti and many scholars accused him of lying about like Ali al-daraqutni - ibn aljawzi - Ahmed ibn muhammed alshaibani and he is the only one who narrated those ahadith , and no one else narrated it alongside him, and strange thing is that Imam Muhammad Al-Baqir, who is the brother of Zaid bin Ali, did not see any of it, even though their fathers, Ali bin Al-Hussein and Muhammad Al-Baqir, are twenty-four years older than Zaid, as he was born in the year 56 Hijri and died in 118 hijri!

    • @AllAboutIslam_True
      @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому

      @@Iamfsaly and I’m sure the Shia would say the Hadiths in bukhari and muslim arn’t correctly attributed to Muhammad ﷺ. The sects go on and fight for themselves.

    • @AllAboutIslam_True
      @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому

      @@Iamfsaly the Zaydis say what you have said is lies, and you say what they say are lies. Allah knows best between you.

  • @philiplahm2420
    @philiplahm2420 Місяць тому

    Shias is the leader

  • @TolerantAcceptingModernCommuni
    @TolerantAcceptingModernCommuni Місяць тому

    There is no difference of opinion being from Qurashite descent, the ahadith are clear, no one rejects this but a heretic or infidel.

    • @nasrhussain9126
      @nasrhussain9126 Місяць тому

      Their is no requirement he is from Quraish. The hadeeth stated a factual statement not a requirement.

  • @aar8808
    @aar8808 Місяць тому

    Ideally. Whether the imaan is strong enough for Arabs to submit to a non-Arab leader today.

  • @piffplayer
    @piffplayer Місяць тому

    Saba/sheba>sabbeans>qatanti>Arab=Islam racist

  • @rocketshoot3027
    @rocketshoot3027 Місяць тому

    Khilafat has nothing to do with Islam

    • @ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
      @ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 Місяць тому +1

      That is untrue
      Well it is not obligatory as individual, but it is communal responsibility

  • @johndoe-fd4ev
    @johndoe-fd4ev Місяць тому +26

    Muawiyah was not adil. He waged war against two caliphs, broke the treaty with al-Hassan, established a culture of cursing Ali, has the blood of each of the first four caliphs' sons on his hands (just one example is Muhammad bin Abu Bakr), and he did not take the caliphhood in an appropriate and just way. His father raised his sword against the Prophet, his son raised an army against Hussain, and he raised an army against Ali and Hassan. His actions are inexcusable and unforgivable.

    • @nknawaz4
      @nknawaz4 Місяць тому

      You are wrong, u r shia , you are not among us Muslims

    • @user-pp3gt8ch1v
      @user-pp3gt8ch1v Місяць тому

      He's a Muslim nonetheless, cry.

    • @sj-to3ed
      @sj-to3ed Місяць тому +22

      Fear Allah speaking ill and slandering a sahaba with no daleel

    • @asadhussain995
      @asadhussain995 Місяць тому +2

      @@sj-to3edHe is speaking haq he killed Muhammad bin AbuBakr A.S son of Hazrat AbuBakr A.S and sewn his body in donkey skin and burned him.

    • @sj-to3ed
      @sj-to3ed Місяць тому +9

      @@asadhussain995 bring the daleel

  • @kernel1kadafi
    @kernel1kadafi Місяць тому +12

    Salaam brother, in regard to the raisin head hadith can you go into detail about that!
    I was confronted about that by someone that claimed prophet muhammed was a racist and i did not have the knowledge to counter that ? Please brother can you take out the time for this inshAllah

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +41

      Wa Aleikum Salam
      Certainly.
      وَأَطِيعُوا وَإِنِ اسْتُعْمِلَ عَلَيْكُمْ عَبْدٌ حَبَشِيٌّ كَأَنَّ رَأْسَهُ زَبِيبَةٌ ‏"
      Firstly, it wasn't a general statement (as often intimated by enemies of Islam) towards all black people, rather it was a Hyperbolic statement intended to stress the importance of obeying a ruler EVEN if he had qualities that were otherwise not allowed
      1. Physical disability/impairment (this is where the description of a raisin is relevant, it highlights a disability/abnormality)
      2. A Slave cannot rule anyone, but in this Hadith it mentions "even if a slave". Again, it's Hyperbolic and intended to reinforce a command in the extreme (but not literal form)
      3. He is described as Abyssinian (emphasising his Culture and tribal identity and NOT his ethnicity/race/colour). The Abyssinians were the same people who in their recent history had marched to destroy Makkah, the Arabs naturally had some level of enmity towards Abyssinians as a result (which is perfectly normal, which nation loves their coloniser?)
      When you consider all of this, the key Takeaway is that Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is addressing his own followers and stressing the importance of being obedient to a Muslim ruler EVEN if he embodies virtually all the prohibited attributes for being a leader (breaking the 5 conditions outlined in the video).
      It's not a description of Africans neither an insult but actually endorsement and a command to obey such a person.
      In practical terms, prophet Muhammad ﷺ did indeed elect a young Black man (16) to lead the entire Muslim army shortly after that (Usamah Ibn Zayd) and some people had an issue with this, but they did as they were told and obeyed him.
      He didn't have any disability, he wasn't a slave but he was black.
      Prophet Muhammad ﷺ practiced what he preached, so it wasn't just rhetoric and idealism. His disciples also implemented his teachings as they were told to.
      This is the correct and proper context for this incident. A beautiful and empowering lesson

    • @shahid8545
      @shahid8545 Місяць тому +13

      Bilal(ra) stood on top of the Kaaba and gave the adhan. Imagine a black African, standing on top of the Kaaba, looking down at Arab society and calling the prayer? Pretty breathing taking to think of.
      The prophet(saw) suckled from a black woman. The depiction of Musa(as) when the prophet(saw) went on the night journey was that he was completely black.
      Also.. name me any society today where a poor, downcasted, prisoner of war/ indentured servant could one day be a caliph of a Muslim nation? Not even in 2024 in any nation/religion in the world.

    • @HISTORYUN
      @HISTORYUN  Місяць тому +12

      ​​​@@shahid8545We all know the humiliation and disrespect Obama and his wife endured while he was president. From cartoons of his wife being a Monkey, accused of being a man with makeup and not to mention the endless childish taunts of him being an illegal migrant without a valid passport.
      In fact, there's still a video of a senator brazenly calling him a Liar in his face.
      This was the perfect example of a people being deliberately disrespectful and insubordinate to their leader, purely because he was (half) Black!
      They would not have behaved this way had they learned the Hadith in question and applied it !
      The irony of such nations pointing a finger towards Islam and misquoting this beautiful Hadith as evidence of racism.
      They have absolutely nothing to teach anyone about anything when it comes to treating people with respect regardless of race. They may argue that at least they had a Black president but the sad reality is that NOT EVEN their Black President was safe from open racial harassment and bullying, so much more for the unknown citizen....
      No leader in the history of mankind has called for racial equality more sincerely and openly than prophet Muhammad ﷺ, and definitely not from the other major religious traditions of the world.

    • @shahid8545
      @shahid8545 Місяць тому

      @@HISTORYUN Well said akhi. Absolutely right. One could even suggest racism is getting worse in the west overall. With the colonialization project immigrants are fleeing for safety and of course many of them flee to the western world. With the sudden influx of immigrants the racism is absolutely rife here and if allowed to be fully expressive it would be suffocating.

    • @nasrhussain9126
      @nasrhussain9126 Місяць тому +7

      Actually this hadith is the most anti-racist statement that can be made. Obey him and treat him as your leader even if he looks like the darkest raisin.

  • @ab.i.7012
    @ab.i.7012 Місяць тому

    Adala includes justice