Munich vs Berlin as a Foreigner?
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I decided to head to Berlin and Munich for a special video, either wondered why foreigners decided to move to Berlin over Munich well this one was amazingly good. Over 13 countries.
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I was dying when he said that 🤣
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Well, in such a politically correct and censored country as Germany, you really need to think twice before you put the words into your mouth... Berlin or Munich, it doesn't matter. Both cities have no freedom of speech at all!!
@@Nieczynny What's your source on that, have you been there?
@@SNWWRNNGOh, he will just moan that he is not allowed to deny the Holocaust.
@n-Australia If your idea of free speech is that no one questions your words, then yes, that is actually quite unusual in Germany. But that has nothing to do with limiting free speech. To be precise, that _is_ free speech.
A small town just outside of Munich, my personal slice of heaven. I will die in these hills.
Grew up south of Munich but I couldn’t afford living there anymore.
Wunderbar, wo lebst du denn? sich persönlich lebe westlich von München in einer ca. 40.000~ Stadt und brauche nach München nur maximal 1 Stunde. So lebt es sich perfekt mMn. München ist zu teuer zum leben aber für alle möglichen Veranstaltungen und Bildung/Arbeit nach München reinzufahren ist angenehm genug. Berlin ist leider eine sehr hässliche (Haupt-)stadt. Überall Müll.
Which town if I may ask?
@@kevzartwork3715 Landshut is one, 40 minutes by train
i wouldnt say that just outside of munich fits for landshut @@theprovost
I'm from Munich and have visited Berlin a few times and both cities have their pros and cons.
Berlin seems great if you are young and like extreme partying, especially if you are into recreational drugs other than beer and weed.
It's also great if you want to have a very alternative lifestyle or want to be in some kind of "scene".
Also, while it got more expensive in recent years, it's on average still cheaper than Munich.
Munich is great if you want a more relaxed lifestyle, hanging around in beergardens, cafés or parks.
It's also an extremely safe city. And it's a great hub for hiking and traveling in the beautiful alpine region and northern Italy.
Architecturally and appearance wise I like Munich more but I might be biased, both cities have beautiful and not-so-beautiful parts.
Both are rich in history, have great art galleries and awesome museums. Both cities have great job opportunities, too.
You can chill in a park in Berlin and be a free-thinking artist in Munich. Hell, Freddy Mercury lived here for 6 years.
Also both cities have a large international community so it's no problem in either of them to find friends if you are from abroad.
Something that slips beyond the tourist radar is the fact that most of Berlin is actually quiet and boring. Exploring Mitte, Friedrichshain, Kreuzberg etc. obviously makes for a more engaging trip than strolling around some random sleepy neighbourhood, so it's to be expected, but I do wish people didn't generalise the entire city based on that. The only place I encounter weed(s) with any regularity round where I live is in the forest, and I'm barely outside the Ring.
People spend around 32% of their income on rent in both cities, by the way. The same likely applies to prices for goods and services. So living in Berlin isn't actually "cheaper" in any sense that matters.
It’s really difficult to talk about ONE Berlin. The thing about Berlin is that the city differs so much from district to district, it sometimes feels like you‘re moving to a different country, but you‘ve just travelled 5km east or west. It has some of the fanciest areas in all Germany, but also some of the most run-down, some of them right in the center of the city (Hello Alexanderplatz). The thing that gave Berlin the edge was the low cost of apartments until recently. Unfortunately, that‘s all gone now as Berlin is 2nd most expensive city for renters, after Munich. So, I guess in a way, Berlin is getting a bit like Munich, which not everyone is in love with.
We need high rent...or the whole city will turn into a large primitiv ghetto...and people make ghettos.....verschmiert und verschlampt. Calling it being free..
why is Berlin even getting so expensive since salaries in Munich are still far better?
what about the cost living (other than rent prices) between the two cities? i've heard people saying that berlin is more of an affordable place to live for students (: thanks
Berlin ist ein beschissenes Loch.
@@obuyWw Prices are pretty much unified across the country when it comes to groceries and retail. The only differences I've ever noticed are sales prices dipping a bit lower in some regions than in others, like bananas being 0.90€ instead of 0.99€. Totally negligible. Eating out is a good bit cheaper in Berlin. Activities might be as well, but as a student you'll get discounts everywhere, so it's probably not a big deal.
Don't underestimate how ridiculously hard it is to find a place to live, though. Even if your budget is good and you lower your standards to the minimum, it's not going to be fun. Supply and demand are way out of whack. That's why I'd suggest also having a look at smaller and less popular towns with a university. Typical concerns like being conservative, small-minded, possibly xenophobic etc. don't play as much of a role in uni towns since they attract lots of young people.
Both cities have their pros and cons.
I am Bavarian and I still love Berlin not least bc my daughter lives there.
And the third city I love is Hamburg - yet another completely different cup of tea. 😉
Germany is diverse ! And that's not a bad thing at all !!
Have you visited any villages ?
@@yourtruebrit Grew up in a tiny Bavarian village and have been to hundreds all over Germany since then. Now I live mostly near Ulm which you know quite well. :))
I lived in Berlin for a while and worked with Berliners, Bavarians and people from Cologne in all three cities. I think Berlin is a special place in Germany and honestly, I think I was very lucky that was the first place I went to in Germany. I find Köln more similar to Berlin than Munich, seems quite young and open minded, easy going as well, at least in my circles. I really like the whole north of Germany, feels more sincere and natural to me. I really like the look of Bavaria, but I never felt very welcomed there, always felt it’s quite judging. Considering I’m white men with similar posh attitude as Bavarians I can’t imagine how weird must Bavaria feel to people of color for example.
anyone saw the huge sneak peak at the end!, yes we did collaborate in Berlin!
Just an interesting thing: Before 1945, or even more so before 1918, the images of both cities and the regions they were in (Prussia and Bavaria) were quite reversed. Back then, Bavaria and Munich were the more relaxed places and Berlin/Prussia was the conservative "law and order" area. Berlin still has not really recovered from the post-war chaos and Bavaria upgraded itself economically after 1945, in part with the help of companies and people that fled the soviet zone of occupation (like Audi/Horch or Siemens).
Very interesting point.
Die Vertriebenen, vor allem sie Sudeten waren ebenfalls essentiell für Bayerns Aufstieg
I used to live in South Germany (Stuttgart) now in North and I love it here so much more! 🤍
I have been to a lot of places in germany and i personally think the north german people are the nicest people in germany. Just very pleasant to be around and chill people.
@@MrBroken030 Where exactly? I'm looking for new places to move to :D
Welcome to the north! I once lived for a while in Baden-Württemberg too (deep in swabia). I must admit, I was happy, when I was back in the north.
I am way more happier in the south
I hope someday I can live in Berchtesgaden
Munich actually has a higher percentage of foreigners compared to Berlin.
I feel like the difference is that Berlin has these hubs and Munich is more decentralised when it comes to areas where foreigners live
In a way it’s two different cities faced with the same reality imposed upon them externally, namely globalisation. One tries to fight it and fails, at least partially and what you end up with is greater segregation. The other embraces it as part of its international outlook, but also fails to prevent cultural segregation. As open and multicultural as Berlin is in some areas, greatly segregated areas remain, both in terms of very rich and conservative native areas and majority immigrant neighbourhoods. So both strategies have brought advantages and disadvantages, but what’s clear is that neither is perfect and neither has been able to fight reality, if you will.
I’m also not arguing there’s nothing a country can do or could have done to restrict or reduce the impact of globalisation or migration specifically, but there’s only so much a city can do. The munich vs berlin comparison is a very interesting example of this. I’m reminded of my home town of many years Zurich, which also is much more multicultural than people think, but heavily ethnically and culturally segregated by zip code.
And that's how it should be.
That's how people get to know each other better and there's a smaller chance of conflict.
may i ask for the source regarding the % of foreigners?
Lmao, had to Google it and it's really true.
Also different immigrants. Munich is mainly balkans and a few others while in berlin it's much more global. Also foreigners in munich are much better integrated so a lot of the time u don't notice someone is a foreigner, which is why people think Munich doesn't have that much of them
I must say the girls from France Germany Greece Turkey almost have an American twinged accents! No typical German and French accents.. what a change from the previous generation
Globalisation in a nutshell, really. American pop culture really has shaped a whole generation around the world, for better and for worse. Mind you, selection bias always applies. Generally speaking, countries have always been divided into two camps, those willing and privileged enough to travel a lot / move abroad and those who stay at home, out of choice or necessity. Globalisation vastly increased the number of people able to do so, but the divide, which is as much cultural and political as it is economic is still there, in fact it has just got greater. And resulting in that, you have very internationally minded people with great language skills and the “rest” with strong roots in local traditions. I think your average french or spanish person, in my experience, does speak English better now than 50 years ago, but the divide still exists and what you’re seeing here are only those out of the “international camp”.
They've been watching a lot of English language UA-cam videos. The previous generations of French and German people got their American pop culture as tv-series and movies dubbed in French or German.
Whats called globalization is in fact americanization. (cit. Henry Kissinger)
The power of American influence. A film made in USA goes over the whole globe instantly...they are careful here ti let things in to keep it pure....very clever
@@dagmarvandoren9364purist Americans lmao no
All these people are so friendly and express their opinions well
Aw Danke 🥰
*and* they're doing it in English which for many is a second or third language. I can only wish my German was as good as their English!
Grew up near Cologne, lived in Hamburg for a long time. Both Berlin and Munich are two very weird and non-German places to me :D
Nur weil die Bayern nicht magst. Der Rest der Welt denkt e dass die deitsche Kultur so wie in Bayern isch
Are there any German cities in Germany?
Most cities in my Bundesland seem to be non-German. They are predominantly Arabic with scattered German looking parts like an Altstadt or so.
As a German from Frankfurt, I would much rather live in Berlin than Munich. Cause I think like the lives of people in Munich are way to ordered/strict. While Berlin is more open to new things. Also as that one dude sad people from Munich are indead snobs who think they are "somewhat better" than the rest of the country.
Well, Frankfurt/Main is much closer to Berlin when it comes to its vibes. It's similar international and its "Mainhattan"-style helps in this regard.
Munich's "poshines" were always a mix of Bavarian snobbism based on their Freistaat-Status in Germany (similar to how Saxonians are behaving nowadays).
I love these videos. You do a great job putting these folks at ease and really getting them to give their true feelings on a place. I live in the USA, but Munich is my favorite city in the world... hoping to maybe partially retire there in a few years. Love the handshakes at the end also. Well done!
I'm always amazed at the video quality of this channel. I don't know if it's the editing, direction, camera quality or a bit of everything, but man, such beautiful shots!
Aww thanks man. yeah I used to work in adverts in Germany. Editing can take days :)
I really like your channel man.. good job :) I gained some insights into the cultural differences between Munich and Berlin
Thank you very much ! Great video, funny and interesting !
Of course Berlin is very international, but so is Munich too. And in their very special way they are German because Germany, German culture, German history is quite diverse.
Visiting those two cities you can get a good impression of how different it can feel to be in different parts of Germany. But then there are still many places which are different from both, Berlin and Munich.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Quite true, even moving around Germany can make you feel the odd man out. And the small regional differences sometimes cause more misunderstanding/trouble than the outright differences ;)
So Many Wonderful people from Across the Globe. Thankyou for making this video.
As Viennese I visit Munich when I want to travel but feel at home, cities like Hamburg or Berlin are just travel destinations. Every time I was in Berlin I had to deal with some kind of violence - the worst was a man being stabbed :( Last time I was so upset that I was shaking and just aimlessly walking around and then I saw the Bavarian flag in front of me - a "Biergarten" in Berlin. Sitting there I could calm down, see the sun and hear the birds again. I didnt leave until it was time to get to my train. I dont think I will return for another visit to Berlin, its not meant to be.
Das ist bestürzend und bedauerlich!
Hoffentlich geht's trotzdem soweit gut.
Ich lebe seit 1989 in Berlin, -West damals, und habe auch schon so einiges durchgemacht.
Solche Erfahrungen haben einen eigenen Wert...
@@praeceptorIch bin Berliner, Jahrgang '82. Ich habe auch schon so einiges mitbekommen und selbst erlebt. Es lässt sich leider nicht vermeiden, besonders wenn man viel in der Stadt unterwegs ist. Ich kann diesen Erfahrungen keinen Wert beimessen.
As much as i love Berlin i will never get past the general apathy and unfriendliness. Anytime i get a smile it feels like a miracle.
Do you have any stories of it? 😊
yes, better enjoy the fake smile and fake friendliness of Bavarians.
@@ferrarizzi1219 that's called being polite and you should actually appretiate the effort people make to not ruin your mood.
@@blnnnni guess different people value different things
Oh more than i can count, for example i have a neighbour living beneath me that i'm always bumping into on the apartment stairs. I had always smiled and said hi but she practically ignored me every time and looked at me with a dead stare. It's so weird, i actually go out of my way to ignore her now. Other neighbours always give a small smile or say something but not her. For me that small amount of effort to be polite goes a long way. @@yourtruebrit
Awesome Chanel . I saw you came to my city in St Albans UK
I only ever met two people from Berlin who preferred Munich over Berlin. A workaholic gay couple.
Berlin and Munich are the only two German cities I have been to but I have to say I much preferred Berlin. Berlin feels more open, especially in the centre. Munich also felt a lot more expensive in comparison. I'm sure if you have a fair bit of money to spare you could really enjoy Munich but on a regular income it isn't the most inviting place. Aesthetically Munich is very pretty, I will give it that, it looks better than Berlin.
Well, most (young) people ignore that Berlin, as the country's capital, and bc of retaliation reasons too, was the main target of bombardment in WWII. Therefore Munich, which was out of reach for the Allied forces for the majority of that War looks more "historic" than nowadays Berlin.
I freaking love the end of this video. The handshakes, the ambiguous national hymn music, the laughs, the politeness, the smiles. Great video sir, you were polite, welcoming, and let people speak their minds.
Haha this gave me a good laugh. I lived in Munich for 10 years and have only visited Berlin. And its all true! Munich very much shaped me as a person.
The handshake and the hymn at the end are so cool hahaha, I saw myself singing my patriotic heart out "Einigkeit und Pressefreiheit für das deutsche Vaterland........"
Thanks so much :)
Grew up in Munich, moved to Berlin for 8 years. Now I live in the countryside close to the Netherlands. Both cities degraded over the past decades and the original culture got lost because the native people can’t afford to live there anymore.
the blue lighting on that guy's dark skin tone looks so cool
I am glad you noticed that small detail we saw 😅😂
As a Pakistani I fully support love and respect France Germany and it's beautiful people from Pakistan 🙂. Best regards from Pakistan 🙂.
The perception of rudeness is not fixed and can differ based on personal experiences and beliefs. What you consider "rude" is a subjective concept.
Nah man, if you get told to f**k off for orderly and normal conduct, that IS objectively rude. F Berlin.
I guess I should visit both more often. It will be 10 years this year since I last was in Berlin and even more since I last was in Munich (but just around the main station really). What I heard it's like Berlin presents like the modern side of Germany and Munich the more traditional side. I live in Frankfurt/Main. Here it's more the business side. It's also very international, but not as open as Berlin I think. Harder to meet people.
Funnily enough, Frankfurt and Munich are actually the most international cities when it comes to percentages, even higher than Berlin
@@anna.k2864 Offenbach has the highest percentage of foreigners in Germany. Stuttgart, Mannheim and Heilbronn, were I was born, all have a higher percentage of foreigners.
TBH, mangels Äppler gibts eigentlich keinen Grund da hinzufahren (war früher familiär sehr oft in Berlin, und wg Job mehrmals in München).
I‘m surprised how many people you find who speak such good English. And I also love the ending with the music and handshake. 🏴
Should include Cologne and Hamburg to have Full House :D
Ok on the to do list :)
Please do this in Hamburg as well! 😄
Stuttgart and Frankfurt are officially mad at you.
@@timokohler6631 nah Frankfurt isn't a big loss imo.
and frankfurt. so we can compare the big 5 in germany
Munich is a big village ! Berlin is a world City !
11:09 “Babarians are a bit snob”: sometimes pronunciation does matter 😂
As much as i'm a Northerner i would never call Bavarians "Babarians".
Actually Bavaria as the rest of the South is the only "non-barbarian" part of Germany as the Romans ended up along the Limes from Danube to Frankfurt and Trier. They never made it to the place where Berlin is situated and yes, there is some kind of cultural gap routhly along that line.
We Munich people say: The only good thing about Berlin is the fast train connection to Munich ;)
Not the art maybe ?
@@yourtruebrit no, we have art too 😄
@@sophia-youtube 🤣
We in Berlin say the only good thing about Munich is the short train ride to the Alps
Lol. As a Berliner, what would I go to Munich for? Snob watching? Experiencing tons of drunk af assholes in lederhosen at Oktoberfest? Paying my ass off for anyting I wanna do there? There's so much to choose from!
You started it.
Now you have to compare Hamburg and Cologne.
Ok let’s do it :)
@@yourtruebrit👍👍👍👍
@@yourtruebrit Köln and Düsseldorf (be aware of death threats)
How to be hated in Germany 😂😅
@@yourtruebritOrder an Altbier in Cologne, or a Kölsch in Düsseldorf!😂
Auslander in Munich. Yes, have good German vibe, but so many places to visit, park to play around, beergarten and awesome beer, good friendly people, safe anytime, clean, in time , nearby places within and outside Germany to roam around. Cons- expensive compared to other European cities.
Man, I would love to hang out with the guys from Netherlands. They seem quite energetic and chill.
There are a lot of people from Munich in Berlin, but a Berliner in Munich seems rare .....
You got the cross upside down fool. Sacral offense.
@@ivobaren1 Hail Satan
See you in hell 😁
Great video! 😂
Thanks man :)
Berlin is nor comparable to anything else in Germany. Munich is Bavaria, Hamburg is nordic culture, Cologne is quiet similar to Amsterdam. But Berlin is just a melting pot of people and history. Looks quiet messed up but unique anyway 😉
Munich isn't very representative for Bavaria just like Stuttgart isn't very representative for Swabia.
For Bavaria I would recommend Regensburg, Landshut, Freilassing, Ingolstadt, Traunstein, Passau, Freising, Weilheim, ... the ones coming to my mind right now.
For Swabia I would recommend Ludwigsburg, Schwäbisch Gmünd, Schwäbisch Hall, Ulm, Esslingen, Göppingen, Tübingen, Reutlingen, Biberach, Ravensburg, Wangen, Heidenheim, Aalen, Crailsheim, ... (spontaneous random selection).
For Badenia (Baden) my recommendation would be eg. Karlsruhe, Mannheim, Heidelberg, Offenburg, Freiburg, Lörrach, Gernsbach, Triberg, Titisee-Neustadt, Furtwangen, Donaueschingen, Villingen, Konstanz. Mind that Karlsruhe and Mannheim are quite special cities. Both have been founded as resindence cities for Granddukes of Baden in the Barock era. They were planned cities in which the streets are following a particular geometry: in Mannheim the streets in the centre are delimiting square areas with buildings; in Karlsruhe a number of streets start at the residential palace emerging radially while a few streets are following a semicircle or cut across some of the radial streets.
@@MichaelBurggraf-gm8vl Sounds strange but Schwäbisch Hall is not swabian.
@@christofabt8958Thank you for that hint. I'm not completely surprised by that. However reading the Wikipedia article was revealing a very interesting history to me.
"Mia san mia" that says everything 🙂
Munich is fancy and tourist oriented...says a person from prenzlberg...
🤣🤣🤣
Never been to Berlin, but I have always come back to Bavaria for holidays. Even though over the years, I have lived in BW, Hesse, NRW, I would still prefer to retreat to Bavaria than Berlin.
The best about munich is the daytrips to the alps. The best thing about berlin is the numerous daytrips within the city
I could barely understand anyone in Bavaria. The Dutch couple said it well, It sounds like they are concealing their voice down a man hole. Nothing is distinct and crisp. When I hear Berliners, I get every last word.
13:15 cg look kommi "A small town just outside of Munich, my personal slice of heaven. I will die in these hills" unter den Kommis die Stadt Landshut
Another comment from me about München: Sport/Mountains/Biergärten (real ones - with your own Picknick basket …), …
Munich is a bit more bearable in the winter. Even though the weather is not much better it is more south and you can ski and it has more snow as oppose to dark, grey, rainy Berlin. Summer, Berlin is a bit better because of the beaches, near Ocean and mostly not to hot.
Are you planning to compare some more places, e.g.: Hamburg (seafarers) or Frankfurt (Main; finance)...?
Both citys arent that great. Berlin is so run down it isnt even funny anymore. "In the Past Berlin was poor but sexy today its just poor". Munich on the other hand is so rich you almost feel bad. It seems like the people there just work and sleep. Also but thats maybe something personal I think people from bavaria always think they are something better.
@5:53 MAN!! 😂
I live in munich. Every time I get off the train in Berlin I think about not touching anything. It's not as clean as Munich. After 2 days I got used to it. But the first time is always a shock. Always.
PLEASE ALSO MAKE A COMPARISON FOR MUNICH AND KOLN!
So study in Munich, work in Berlin?
Would like to hear answers by working people (people over 30), they should be measuring their environments a bit differently carrying more responsibility and being more active part designing their own society. It would be interesting to know if their degrees converted to jobs easily or have they moved around a lot. How opened and responsive is the local government etc. You know, the stuff that actually changes your streets.
Omg! The ending with easy german!! As an Auslanderin i feel myself more comfortable in Berlin (i have seen the other cities too but they were too german for me). As it offers more cultures and opportunities and you also meet more people who have been/are going through the same shit as you. So my choice is definitely Berlin!
Now we need Bonn vs Berlin
I really felt when they said that people actually think Munich = Germany because it’s so true. I was raised in NRW (Duisburg, Gelsenkirchen, Krefeld…) and it’s like Berlin, it has the industrial vibe everywhere and is full of people all around the world. When people on the internet speak about Germany they’re actually speaking about Munich (punctuality, Oktoberfest, Mountains, rich people, clean city…). The area were I grew up is unpunctual (trains never arrive and if they do its +45 minutes delay), it’s flat land, we don’t have Oktoberfest (its more like Ramadan), people are often very poor with a very high unemployment rate and the cities are very dirty, full of trash. I still like those cities (specially Duisburg) because of my memories as a kid but I don’t want people to mix them up with all those “german” stereotypes out there.
Maybe what you mean with Munich= Germany you mean Munich= stereo type. But doesn’t that mean that Munich ≠ Germany then?
I love Berlin, been there 4x. But watching this video I feel like visiting other cities in Germany.
yeah both are great cities :)
Munich has my heart, for sure. I love love love that it's so *clean*. You could eat off of most sidewalks. It's just classy af.
Indeed. Germany's Disney-Land.
If you do such a video, you should include the north (Hamburg) and the west (Cologne) - because there are not just too kinds of German culture
It’s planned 😊
It's funny to hear foreign people living in Munich saying that Berlin is very international, when Munich is as international as Berlin is.
yeah right! It's all about perception I guess. Maybe this could be a sign that foreigners in Munich have blended in to the German lifestyle, while Berlin foreigners do like to stand out more?
Vor 40 Jahren war München noch ein Dorf, doch nachdem die Dackel mit Anhang von uns gegangen sind, und sich Kuckucksuhren nur noch bedingt verkaufen ließen, hat auch der letzte CSU'ler kappiert das am Computer kein Vorbeikommen ist. Von da an gings bergauf. Und wärs ohne Ausländer gegangen, hätten die Münchner bei einem Volksbegehren beide Arme hochgerissen. Ging aber nicht. Und nur deshalb.
Theyre right about Munich but the state of Bavaria is by far the least German state in the country, Munich is however way more Germanized.
I don't know the differences. It's big cities, so too stressful to me as a "Landei" from Ruhrpott :D
Ruhrpott zusammengenommen ist ne "Stadt" um die 45 Millionen Einwohner.
Nicht wirklich klein.
NO, MUNICH (I have family there) is different from the rest of Germany, not Berlin and that is a fact, I have lived in Berlin (7 years), Hamburg (2 years), Leipzig (3), Halle (14 years) and Frankfurt a. M. (2 years) ... now I live in Jena ... so I can say that with certainty.
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🇵🇹👍🏻💚❤️Berlin, wunderbar 🇩🇪
Keep it up
Munich lacks trees in a lot of areas. There need to be trees in the streets.
Never thought about that. Also in Berlin. at least at some places. you can shop after 8 pm and on Sundays.
Gibt es denn in den 16 Ländern nur 2 Städte? Wie wär es mal mit Erfurt, Saarbrücken oder Husum?
as a born Bavarian (Landshut area) who lived in Berlin for 3+ years .. :
München is very expensive but also it is about as Bavarian as Berlin is German. München is clearly the more functional city. Berlin is great if you don't care about "status" but are obsessed with "appearance" and if you want to chase everything about toxic and exciting about American culture (drugs, orgies, welfare, fetish clubs, drugs, never learn German beyond "mit Karte", and drugs). Berlin is where German people who don't want to live in Germany but don't want to bother with actually immigrating to a different country move and it's where foreigners who don't want to actually move to Germany but don't want to live in their home countries live. München is where you go to get a degree, make a ton of money, and flush all of it down the toilet paying rent. München offers such a better quality of life, at a high price, but Berlin is insanely fun and the question is not "if" it will drive you crazy, rather "when". I didn't like Berlin anymore but I wanted to still be able to make and save enough money and München would never allow that:
so I moved to Vienna 🤣 (+7 years!)
Why Vienna ? 😅
@@yourtruebritweil Bayern das bessere Deutschland ist und Österreich ist das bessere Bayern
@@yourtruebrit Vienna has everything great about Munich with a much more affordable and even higher quality of life
@@JonVonD but I thought salaries in Vienna were worse compared with Munich or, actually, all of Southern Germany. I agree with you that Vienna is indeed a really nice city.
Munich is more for older posh people.
Many Bavarians don't like not looking someone in the eye when shaking hands. This was noticed at the end of the video. Many Bavarians find this rude.
Munich for ever ❤
Since i am from the Southwest i am 100% team Munich!
Bavaria is very similar to my culture and Berlin is...let's keep it like that😅
I think the architecture is not so much Austrias influence on Munich then russias influence on Berlin :D
do the same, but frankfurt vs offenbach
Offenbach? Isn't that fairly small?
@@boxsterman77offenbach is right next to frankfurt and the relationship of thouse 2 cities is very special.
@@nikomangelmann6054 oh I know it well. I lived in Worms and when traveling to Frankfurt I would go through this beautiful, but kleine Dorf. When encountering comparisons between two things, I’m just more accustomed to seeing peers on somewhat equivalent footing compared. Mainz, or Wiesbaden even compared to Frankfurt, the financial capitol of Germany makes more sense.
You accidently played the national anthem of Liechtenstein at the end!
Why do you play the national anthem of Liechtenstein?
As someone from Hamburg, I feel so much more at home when I am in Munich than when I visit Berlin. Berlin is fast-paced, chaotic, international, multicultural, quite loud and dirty, basically a hedonistic shithole. Munich has tradition, pride, order and beauty, life is in balance there. The Bavarian mentality, Germanys southern charm, plays a big role too. I still cant decide which one is better, the delicious cuisine or the lovely Munich girls.
there are actually two views on that. one is that Hamburg and Munich are like the a bit wealthier 'nice big cities' which compete vs. the big weird/interesting/edgy Berlin. But historically and structurally Hamburg is rather similar to Berlin (nowadays maybe like between Berlin and Munich). The reason is that in the end of the day also Berlin was part of the Hanseatic League (back then like Amsterdam less important than cities like Luebeck (kind of capital of the Hanse) Bremen, Hamburg, Rostick, Danzig/Gdsansk etc ... but you have similar Northern Coast like 'red bridge' style buildings than for instance in Middle and Southern Germany. Also many structures of the Prussian times are more similar between Hamburg and Berlin. Apart from that, Berlin as old imperial city and main spot of the late 19. and 20. century got more influence from all over the world and mixes in between (like much more even ancient Greek, Italian, and other styles). The Brandenburg Gate is for instance most interesting not due to that what most ppl think (sign of unicitation etc.) but that it was like in Athens/Greece created as a 2500 years old main gate to the different Akcopolis (High city), the one in Athens is just the most famous but Greece had many. It was a way to create cities). If you stand in front of the Brandenburg Gate you are basically standing at a 2500 years old ancient Greek gate of the most famous time of Greece - the one of Pericles. And thats also exactly why the Brandenburg Gate looks like it looks and its size. And its the best replica/example you have worldwide for such a gate, because only 3 are left (2 in Greece) and in Berlin (which took the old ones as rolemodel as is a quite accurate replica) which is kind of the best 'reconstruction'.
For all people not coming from germany. Thats Munich/Bavaria. We are THE best. Berlin AND all the rest of germany is shithole. Only Bavaria is good.I laugh everytime when bavarian say Berlin is hedonistic. Read what you write. Who is hedonistic? Bayaria the heaven of the world!!!😂 It's soooo boring! Bavaria could be nicer, if a lot of there would be more open for the rest of germany. We are ONE country.
Im from hamburg and i think berlin has way more common with hamburg than munich. Hamburg got very chaotic and loud areas too but also got the charm and class areas. Berlin is just bigger
Oh yeah, you can live a balanced life in Munich. If you're rich, that is. Munich is for people born with a golden spoon in their mouths. Berlin is for everybody.
Berlin also has the best parties in the world - what does Munich have in comparison? Seeing the same drunk ass toxic assholes at Oktoberfest that go to Ballermann every year? Munich isn't even in the same ballpark. It feels like it's a city run by boring ass boomers, for boring ass boomers.
@@publicminx Of note Berlin was kicked out of the Hanseatic League because they allowed nobles to take up residence there. They chose their path and since have gone to hell.
i want to visit Berlin for long time.But i was in Munich its very clean city i like it..But in none of this cities i would actualy live..At the moment i am living in small city in Germany 30k people and i am just relaxed here..I come from big city 500k people and i get tired of car noises drugs and rocken roll :) For young people who like fun i would say visit Berlin.For Educated people who like to feel safe and try achive something i would say visit Munich..As i tourist i would say i want to go to Berlin :)
One thing that was striking in this video is people in Munich are better dressed than people in Berlin.
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Munich is like a fusion of Chicago and Boston
Berlin is like a fusion of NewYork and Detroit. 😅
Munich’s where it’s at. Wouldn’t wanna live anywhere else
The buildings in Munich were not as destroyed after Second World War as in Berlin, so it is easier to have nice old buildings.
Which is not true at all 😂
In Munich (and Nuremberg, Augsburg, Würzburg) they decided to reconstruct the city as it was before the war, whereas most of Germany decided to build a modern city, which back then meant a city for cars.
@@flopunkt3665 the most destroyed cities would have been Wesel or Düren with nearly 100% but as with heavy fightings in the that was also Berlin.
But if coursethe main problem there where the division and a lack of resources to build up again, especially in the eastern part.
And it is a mess in many cities, where they build up or had to build up fast and now you have ugly buildings of the 50s and 60s between former beautiful buildings from Jugenstil and before.
I'm not sure that that is true. Although Berlin has received a very high number of air raids.
The further south in Germany the higher the risks for groups of bombers to run out of fuel in case they got into fights with German air defense and fighter planes.
As the war progressed the allied forces were increasingly gaining air dominance and flying deeper into German airspace became less dangerous. Also, after the allied forces had gained footholds in North Africa and southern Europe they could attack from better positions there instead of England.
That resulted in air raids on places in south Germany increasing comparatively late. However, those air raids were comprising often a large number of bombers causing severe destruction.
During the war my father was evacuated from Karlsruhe to Hüttlingen near Aalen. Often bomber groups were crossing the sky heading towards eg. Augsburg and Munich. He remembered the sky becoming very dark due to hundreds of planes and everything shaking due to the deep noise of the engines.
Karlsruhe was receiving 45 air raids causing more than 80% of the city centre being destroyed.
Not all towns and cities in the south were reconstructed after the war. In Pforzheim, Stuttgart, Ludwigshafen/Rhein, Mannheim, Heilbronn, Darmstadt or Frankfurt/Main only few buildings were left in a state allowing reconstruction. Additionally room for habitation was needed so urgently due to many refugees that administrations often decided to favour quick construction of new buildings over reconstruction of old ones. An architect once told me that actually during the 30 years after WWII more buildings were destroyed in West Germany than during the war. Often in order to improve infrastructure for road traffic and cars in more recent years.
Berlin has actually much more old buildings than any other German cities and masses of beautiful spots. It also has similar to Paris, London or Vienna Imperial structures due to being an imperial city -while other German cities have not or just rests of older times (like Trier as one of the 4 cities of the Roman Empire or Aachen/Cologne/Frankfurt as pre-medieval and medieval Frankish Empire and Holy Roman Empire). Apropos: the entire coast line from Bremen, Luebeck, Hamburg, Magdeburg, Rostok to Danzig(Gdansk) etc. has also a lot in common due to the history of the Hanse/Hanseatic League - which was before the oversea/atlantic trade the other maritime trade highway to the Venice/Northern Italian cities (which were also connected to the Holy Roman Empire). The difference between Berlin and Munich is also that Munich is more centric (often ppl think cities are nicer if they focus on that and ignore the many also profane buildings) while Berlin is polycentric. In Berlin the differences between edgy and beautiful are just felt more like a kind of interesting mix while in Munich more like a traditional nice city. Another difference is that similar to Hamburg Berlin is also a water city (after Hamburg most bridges in the world. Hamburg has ore of an oceanic vibe while Berlin was more of inland ports. Apart from that, both have many channels and rivers (Berlin has more lakes and in difference to Hamburg and Munich really also many natural islands) ..
@@Why-D I don't doubt that the West was hit the hardest. But if we compare Berlin and Munich I think the difference is not that large.
I think you need to interview some older people, and get their perspectives
Good idea :)
2:00 Sums it up perfectly. Berlin is just a multicultural hell with high crime rates if you dont happen to live in one of the fancy areas.
Same with Frankfurt, Cologne, Hamburg etc.
Yep very unsafe to live
If they would knew politics of germany, some would change there opinions on Bavaria and munic
Munich is just a snoppy konservativ town, which just look brillant on the surface
You either love or hate Berlin...it has its rough charme...as stated already by Frederic the Great "der alte Fritz" = "jedem Tierchen sein Plaisierchen" = "everybody should live as liked" 😅😎
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yeah its true, I agree that Berlin is great for partying and more edgy life. But if you love the countryside then yeah the south 100% :)
@@yourtruebrit ☺️
As stated by all of those people in your video = Germany is very different from federal state to federal state...why is it like thst?
Well, one could say, that todays federal states are the ancient territories of the biggest ancient Germanic tribes (apart from Saxony = that got its name due to in those days usual wedding politics), therefor the quite different dialects, mentalities etc 😁
You need to visit all 16 capitals of the 16 federal states 😅
Greetings from Bremen 👋
I agree, Bremen is a wonderful city. do you live in the centre or outside?@@saba1030
@@yourtruebritI love the northern countryside, experiencing the rough elements in the winter and the idyllic rolling hills, lakes and beaches in the summer! Great for all types of outdoor activities. I've been to many many beautiful places in almost all federal states (never been to Saarland) and I loved it there, but I don't want to leave Schleswig-Holstein. The change between extreme storm and bright sunshine within minutes is what I love. People who come here to have beach holidays might disagree, but I don't mind.
It's like everywhere else. People are more relaxed in the north than in the south.
Yes you are right. Greetings from Korea.
You usually hear it the other way around. But it depends how you define it I guess.
@@Smurez 🤣
All the foreigners speak good English…very light accents
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To the 2 Dutch guys, don't worry. Most of Germany doesn't understand the Bavarians either =D.
Prefer Munich over Berlin..
Munich has the most good thinks Berlin has... just less weird and less crime.
The people in both cities who divide people outside of this cities are...
- Left-wingers (real ones) with big dreams in Berlin
- conservatives (no, not N@zis... they are far closer to the democrats than the republicans in the US) with big money in Munich
This guys in Munich are (or can be) arrogant because they have money... this guys in Berlin are (or can be) arrogant because they an opinion.
Have you lived anywhere else in Germany ? :)
Cologne!
Friendly, gregarious people, yes, but the city itself is utterly forgettable with the exception of the cathedral.
I love these street surveys of foreigners talking about german cities ^^
Thanks so much, yeah this Berlin and Munich
@@yourtruebritye i was able to figure that out 😅