@@benkelly2190 You have a tenuous grasp on grammar for someone posting such comments. Hope you're enjoying the benefits of Brexit that you definitely voted for 😂
Great video Andy. I would have liked you to provide the regular service costs alongside the intervals, particularly the valve clearance service charge. For people on a budget this is very helpful to know 👍
My wife and I did a 100-ish mile test ride on varied roads in Lincolnshire UK in October 23 and ordered one the next day. It arrived in March 24. Black with a few silver highlights, integrated panniers, rear rack, heated grips. It is a very easy bike to ride slowly, and I mean that in a good way: 10 mph to 30 mph in busy traffic, it just sits there and you don't have to hold it back or slip the clutch. Just a little bit snatchy in very slow traffic in 1st gear. For daily riding, 1st gear is very low, and the 6 gears are a bit close together. It will sit at 30 mph in 6th, which is the gear that takes you all the way up to the er.. legal limit. I have sometimes slowed down to 30 without changing gear, then lights have changed and I've had to do a quick 6,5,4,3,2,1, then accelerating away when the lights change, I need to fuss through the gears or rev it a bit more then do a double change up once I've hit my required speed. It's unintimidating to ride with or without pillion, but if you drop to 5th or even 4th you've got some exciting acceleration around 7,000 rpm. Otherwise, the bike is happy at anywhere from about 3,000 to 6,000 rpm. It's light and well balanced and steers easily. The screen is easily adjustable but I keep mine low or only 1 notch up, as any higher gives me too much wind noise. The rear shock is remote adjustable just by turning an easily accessible knob, so it's very easy to firm up if you take a pillion or heavy luggage. On the test ride, I found the digital display fussy, but once I had my own bike, I found the various options and now have a favourite display which is easy to read and uncluttered. Lights are very good for proper night riding on unlit country lanes. Nice touch is hazard lights and a parking light option. The heated grips are not as hot as Oxford grips, and the control button is small and is hard to operate with thick gloves, which is exactly when you are likely to need it! My only slight "disappointment" is the lack of engine noise. All my previous bikes have been singles or twins, my last two being Moto Guzzi V-twins. Compared to the friendly chug and grumble, and occasional "bad boy" bark of acceleration, of a twin, the Triumph triple has quite a bland engine note. However, the engine does its job with enthusiasm, and that's the main thing.
Looks like a great addition to the range, good for people who find the larger Tiger or GS's too cumbersome. Great tourer for smaller people and new riders.
I absolutely love that bike! I don’t need one, but it looks very recommendable. As a Tiger 1050 owner it does indeed remind me of my bike. It funny whenever reviewers talk about its relative lack of power. When I first got in to motorcycles, back in the Seventies, the most powerful stock bike was a Kawasaki Z-1. The Tiger 660 has only two less horsepower and is only .4 of a second slower in the quarter mile.
Why don’t bike have proper rear mudguards anymore? It’s always just a tiny patch of plastic to minimally deflect debris and spray. But what about keeping the muck off the bike’s undersides? Give us a proper rear underguard.
I really like that, I definitely think it's a nicer looking bike than the Trident. Those lights though, seems wrong to have the DRL's on at the same time as the low beam instead of one or the other. 🙂👍
I wish Triumph would put their 1200 Speed Triple engine in a scaled up version of this. I like the Explorer but I’d like something that looks more road biased like this. Something like the S1000XR?
At least doing these reviews gets you out and about on the roads for that real world review. Always interesting, and yes, a nice little machine. All you need. 👍👍🏴🏴
Definitely a rival to the wee strom, priced right in the middle of their range. I think Triumph are onto a winner with this, plus that engine is a sweetheart and has a bit more character to it than the dependable, but soul less linearity of the suzi. I think owning one of these for commuting on and for the odd weekend away would be a really easy decision to make.
Looks a great machine - I’ve mentioned before but I think all bikes should have cruise control and heated grips by default. Triumph could then standardise the controls across the trident and this. The cynic tells me triumph will add this in the “updates” next version..
Heated grips 🤣🤣 Real useful in most of Australia, Arizona, where I am now etc. I think all bikes should have a small fridge tucked under the seat to keep our drinks cool.
Been keeping an eye on this bike as a potential next option, and this sounds like a pretty glowing review for it, especially as a commuting option that can also do some fun weekend trips!
A most excellent bike. Love the simplicity and lack of electronic devices and over complex switches. A real everyday bike. Another winner, I'm sure. A lot of my biking friends down in Portugal have this at the top of their wish list. Happy travels 👍 P.s Do it in the sun ,if offered! Schoolboy error,, and nothing to be ashamed of! Nice one
I just found your review on the Triumph tiger 660 as I was looking at this as a new bike watched your review so booked a test ride to my amazement your review does not match the bike the screen gives you lots of buffering were ever you put the screen it’s a horrible bike to ride weather protection no way i have to say the worst bike I have ever ridden
It seems that modern designers forget that some of us don’t ride permanently in sunshine! I’ve said it before, modern, so called mudguards, just aren’t fit for purpose! Full marks to Mr Flyer for using the bike how most of us will and showing us the reality 👍
That is a peeve of mine as well. It seems like only Royal Enfield has a clue about the purpose of fenders these days. I'm thinking that RE could start a lucrative side business designing/producing aftermarket fenders for all the Japanese & European bikes.
At 6'2" it felt rather small for me and the screen just didn't work. I also asked the dealer what was special about red paint that made it £100 more, he couldn't answer so I guess they think more people go for red and pay a premium for it, no centre stand option is a not good either 🤔
Mine's on order, coming June (after umming and arring, went for the blue one) , with hand guards, USB charger and quick-shifter. Watched loads of positive reviews, and reassured to read that you have a high opinion of it!
So near…. Not so cheap when you have to buy separately the things needed for any practical “adventure`’ bike, including: the back half of the front mudguard, rear shock protector, radiator protector, heated grips, hand guards, stands for chain care, quick shifter…. And then there is the presumably gold-impregnated red paint, at £100 for a couple of brush loads. The mercenary BMW model of extortionate “optional extras” is alive and well at Triumph. You will also need to enjoy spending hours and hours on your hands and knees trying to keep the thing clean. If the clever designers were made to ride and look after such bikes for few months perhaps we would get a bit more function to go with their obsession with form.
Overrated and over hyped. Under powered for quick riding. Seat to high . No cruise control option. Handling OK but nothing special. Gearing odd feels like it needs another gear. Try Tiger 850-900 range much more fun and better for touring.
Why is it no reviewer talking anything about the ground clearance about this bike..That's one of the most important factor to be discussed on the spec sheet!
Nice review as always😉. I am interested in this bike but my heart goes to the bmw r1200rs . Would you go for a used bmw Rs or a new Triumph like thid one? I thank viewers than can also share their opinion
Test rode the Tiger Sport 660 yesterday from the excellent Webbs of Lincoln and the Screen IS adjustable big plastic handgrip at bottom of screen pulls up or pushes down and you had it fully down position in your review, more about the screen in a minute. Agree with most of the review it’s a fantastic low speed handling bike, if I had ridden this for my mod 1 it would have been way easier weaving through cones doing U-turns etc. It’s amazingly manoeuvrable and feels astonishing light at low speed through town etc. the gearbox is a thing of joy snicking into gears with a beautiful precision and a light progressive clutch. It’s a soft ride which is fine for what this bikes aimed at but dives a lot with the front brake. Brakes are good but like the suspension I have test ridden better on 650s. Like you I did get the rear ABS to kick in despot riding on a dry sunny (but cold) day. I too though the rear brake was powerful which I think is why it kicked in. It was however subtle and didn’t upset the bike in any way. It’s a thoroughly good bike and it looks good too. There is a low seat option for Missenden ‘Short Arses’ which the bike I rode had on which is 820mm and felt quite hard but was comfy over a three hour ride. On the plus side the screen was easy to move up and down even on the move but on the minus side I was disappointed by the wind protection. Having ridden a CBR650R last week I thought the tiny race Style screen on the Honda, with a more forward body position granted, kept the wind off my body just as well and more importantly the air hitting me was a lot less turbulent and noisy. In fact the Hondas airflow was entirely smooth and as a result a lot quieter around the HJC helmet I currently have. I think I would find this fatiguing on a long ride. Atrociously raising the screen makes things much worse, the wind moves from hitting my shoulders and helmet (6ft tall) to hitting the helmet only but becomes even more turbulent. I can feel the screen shedding alternate vortices to left and right so it’s trying to wobble your head all the time and is even noisier around the Helmet! So an adjustable screen that has to spend its whole time down and doesn’t really do a great job of weather protection. I would look for something aftermarket (when available) to improve this which is disappointing as I would be buying a screen twice. A minor point it the plastic handle to move the screen looks pretty cheapo and I lol let’s the side down for a part that’s in your view the whole time your riding. While we’re on criticisms and this is a small one, I am not a fan of the soft touch indicators. Particularly in winter gloves I never knew if In hit it right and got the indicators on or off and always had to confirm on the dash which is a distraction you don’t need. What’s wrong with switchgear that clicks as it operates so you feel it work and don’t need to confirm by looking. I am sure i would get used to this fairly quickly and would be better in my leather summer gloves rather than bulkier winter waterproof ones so only a minor irritant there. Overall I enjoyed the bike a lot but I found it all a bit soft and slightly underwhelming. I know it’s a different type of bike (the reason i test rode them both to make up my mind) but the Triumph not only lacked the power of the Honda but failed to engage or excite me the way the Honda did. While it’s easy to ride especially at low speed and it’s good at high speeds i didn’t feel instantly at home and that I could feel exactly what was going on under me like I did on the Honda. Finally while the triple has a lovely rasp to the engine note low down I couldn’t hear it at all at motorway speeds due to wind noise and buffet and far from smooth there is a distinct vibration to the triple engine like but less thumping than a twin but nothing at all like the silky smooth CBR inline 4. The Triunphs ‘character’ might get wearing on a long ride. Low down the revs the Honda CBR650R was really muted but as it got into the higher revs where the big power lives the engine note gets better and better and the Honda is a way smoother unit at all speeds. All in all I like the triumph a lot and for those that want an easy to live with very easy to ride commuter it’s a great bike but for me the more intense and visceral Honda CBR650R will be getting my money. As an older first big bike on my European tour with my son this summer I may sometimes regret the odd aches and pains from the Hondas mildly sporty seating position but the smile it puts on my face will more than make up for it. My son (ex BSB racer) can also give me some instruction on track too where I am certain the Honda will be much more at ease than thenTiger Sport.
I predict this will become Triumph’s best selling bike of the coming year. I was out in the snow and rain the other week on a Triumph Street Scrambler whilst my Tiger Explorer was in for it’s 10,000 mile service and MoT. I was grateful for the heated seat and grips on the way home. 🥶 Another great review Andy. Any chance of a slightly more in-depth review of the Daytona boots please. 😎
This is a great looking bike and an all year round 'do it all'. I'd be tempted by this so that my Street Triple stays in the garage for better weather. 😀
Picked up mine on Friday - added the quick shifter, hand guards and heated grips. So far (after only a weekend of riding) it’s very comfortable and just a great bike to ride. I’m really pleased with it. Will be used for commuting and touring. Another good video - thanks
Congrats on the new bike Mark. When you get a chance, can you advise what the real world mpg is. Important for us commuters especially with the rising fuel costs.
Ouch - methinks 'our man in' just got a stiff email . . . shameful situation really, but considering how our home bike industry crumbled before Japanese efficiency half a century ago, it does have a somewhat delicious irony to it : )
@@soaruk3697 any actual facts? Strange that I have been riding them for over 20 years in Australia and the US with not one problem ever. Likewise a lot of my friends have done the same. What is extraordinary about your opinion is that whilst Harley, in particular, and lots of other manufacturers have seen the sales of their road bikes drop over the past decade Triumph continues to grow it's market. If you are correct, how is this happening? For example, I loved my Griso 1200 but it kept breaking down. I spent more fixing that bike than the total in repairs for every other bike I owned in over 40 years. I loved it, but would I buy another one. No way.
Great review, gives insights in daily riding, thinking of upgrading from my 2004 SV650N, as i love the look and style of this tiger 660, allround commuter and sporty riding all tick a box so will line up a test ride at the local dealer.. thx for great review even the trident whats it like to live with review gave me a good idea what the engine would be like
Thanks for the review! Get mine on the 25th March and really enjoyed the test ride. Been waiting for something like this to mainly use on longer days out and trips. Mine has low seat, belly pan, panniers with infills, Triumph Connect module, heated grips, handguards, quickshifter, fog lights ... thats about it I think. I think this would be a great bike for Canary Motorcycle Tours to have in their fleet as would be great for the variety of roads out there :)
Bland. The automotive equivalent of a mock Georgian house. The sort of design that you don't turn back for a second glance at. Sorry for sitting on the fence! Excellent review as usual though👍
Nice review as always thanks. Very tempted. I'm with you on the single dipped headlight - the people who design these bikes must never have driven on a dark country road with a LED-lit SUV coming the other way. I'd also be looking for a fender extender for the front - won't look new for long otherwise.
I disagree. Having only one headlight on looks odd to motorists so it is likely to attract more attention, which is good. As for the LED lit SUV or in bumper driving lights for pseudo rally drivers, do you honestly think an extra light will make any difference? Unless it is a blue flashing one, of course.
That is Very True what you say about Service Schedules.. The yearly Service comes up Way before 10,000 miles For most People. My Kawasaki is Coming up for its 3rdService. In less than 7,000 miles..
And the fact i got my Kawasaki In 2020 and soon after we were all in Lockdown threw a spanner in my average milage...but its a crass thing To moan about when all this Terrible Stuff is happening in Ukraine ..🇺🇦
Good to hear your views, they sound really positive. I`ve got to book my Speed Twin in for a possible battery change, as it`s not been used all winter, and is now 3 years old, so when i do, i`l be taking one of these for a test ride. I tried it in the showroom when Destination Triumph did a launch evening for the all new Tiger 1200, and the 660 Sport arrived unexpectedly, so they put it together and had it on show, i could have tested it the following day, but had already made plans, so it will have to wait. I`m also looking forward to your long term test review too.
A value for money do it all Triumph 👍Think this is destined to be Triumph's best selling bike. I would love to see a more sporty version of this bike with the Street Triple 765 engine. Suspect my Carol would buy that bike.
Same here, currently touring Scotland on my Street Triple R. I'm tempted by this bike but just not quite sporty enough for me, hopefully there will be an Arrow can option?
It really is a complete pain how motorcycling press and influencers like you provide such a tight feedback loop to the manufacturers. I have an old (2003) Triumph Trophy 1200 and want to replace it with something new. The trouble is that Triumph don't make anything like that anymore. Why? Because motorcycle press and influencers are not interested in that kind of bike, so manufacturers stopped making them with the result that they are all chasing the same decreasing market. The Tigers might have the luggage that I want, but the pillion seat is a medieval torture device. My 1200 Trophy is comfortable, keeps the rain off me AND my pillion. The problem is that it is heavy and needs 21st century improvements like shaft drive, ABS, proper heated grips, a place to mount a satnav/phone. I don't want to buy Japanese, but...
Soo it’s just like my 2010 tiger 1050 abs, only without the center stand, heated grips and missing around 35 Horsepower. Don’t get me wrong I love the bike but without cruise control The older 1050 tigers seem to be better bang for your buck.
Just test drove one today and the gearing felt very short - I was at 4500 rpm in 6th gear at 45mph. Going from 0-30 required quickly shifting 1st through 4th with the tach flashing the whole time. Loved the bike but felt like I’d constantly be shifting
Have to agree with the emerging 10k service intervals comment. Cars can go 18k before an oil change / service but apparently bikes cant? Could agree with high spec sports bikes but for the lower performance end surely longing service intervals could be doable. I suppose they have to pay for the fancy showrooms somehow.
If you commute on your bike and are doing biggish mileage then it’s a big deal but for many / most doing 6 or 8K a year isn’t an issue so it will make little difference to the nunber of services done! While diesel cars often get extended service intervals most petrol cars are still in the 10,000 - 12,0000 service interval zone. But it’s still good to see bikes getting there too. Most bikes rev to distinctly higher RPM’s than cars and extract more power than cars per CC of engine which means they do stress oils more which probably has a lot to do with the often shorter service intervals. The Honda CBR650R I rode last week makes all oat two thirds of the power of my car from 650cc (94HP vs 150) from slightly over 1/3 of the capacity (650 vs 1500)
I'm getting this motorcycle this coming weekend and can't wait until spring do you know if it's worth paying a nearly 500.00 for the quick slip clutch? As of now there's no accessory for cruise control that is usually about the only complaint I hear about it
The windscreen should be adjustable -- you just pull it straight up (you can see the little track the bolt follows). There's lots to like. Great size and amount of power, love the integrated luggage rails, and looks great. Only wish it it had a bit better fuel mileage and more visible front lighting. We've been in need of more reasonable bikes and this hits a lot of marks and the price is right to boot. Having said that, I'm still getting the updated 500X for some light off-roading and much lower running costs. Only 2 weeks until riding season again here in Canada \o/
@@TheMissendenFlyer For me, it's usually when the roads are mostly clear of salt. Once it's consistently above 0C and there's been a good rain, good to go. Some people wait for the street sweepers to go round. Most riders here though only ride when it's a good +20C out and not raining. I'm always envious of your year-round riding, though that can be done in small parts of the west coast. Love the videos as always -- safe riding!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oh that's just me looking at the 14-day forecast and it's looking like we'll be in good shape 😎 The weather predictions are never mistaken!
Good review as always TMF. Nice to see someone telling us what it's like in 'Rain' mode. I'm collecting my Tiger Sport 660 tomorrow, I was a little worried about the rain mode being underpowered and intrusive, but not after watching you use it on the dual carriageway. Glad you like it. Take care, Adam
The lack of cruise control - even as an option - is completely unfathomable. Triumph provide all the touring kit for this model, and if the electronics allow a Q/Shift, then cruise should be available too. As nice as this bike is, no cruise would be a deal breaker for me.
No cruise is disappointing. I didn’t realise how much I’d use it till I got my GS. Allows you to vary grip on longer runs as well as a helping hand with speed limits. Had an older GS years ago and put a throttle assist on it to help as I did several 500+ mile days heading across Europe into Ukraine. Hoping to go back their one day when the despot has been fought off.
You say the screen is non adjustable, you need to pay more attention to the product specification! And also you seemed unsure of the type of the instrument display type, once again the specification, part LCD, part TFT.
I’m still dithering about which bike to get next to add to my Guzzi V11 cafe racer. I need a 120 mile m/way and central london commuter that’s good two up with luggage for a few tours per year and that my 5’3” wife feels comfortable riding. So this, DL650XT, Tracer7, NC750X, Versys 650… F800GS is too pricey - currently trying to get test rides booked. I’ve not had a bike under a litre since my FZ750 I sold for my R1 in ‘99 😂 so not getting excited about this range of practical bikes! I need to shift my thinking - great review as always thanks
Hi Andy, great real life review as always. Firstly I think this bike looks excellent compared with most others nowadays. It also does seem like a great tourer / commuter and all rounder which can't be a bad thing. Seems to have plenty enough grunt for a 180kg bike with 80bhp, I would just hope not to become bored and want more power before long... How did it handle on the twisties in your opinion? And ignore the trolls in the comments who are just jealous they have nothing better to do than watch UA-cam videos without making any of their own!
I didn't notice any trolls!! I got to take this bike out again the next day and it was dry and sunny - it was such good fun - I really don't think you'll end up wanting more power if you're just a road rider....
Andy you’re making the decision of which Motorcycle to purchase as my first bike more difficult. This bike was not on my radar, but it is now . Great video Andy In challenging weather conditions.
Excellent bike I'm sure.which I would love as much as I did my versys 650. Still to me triumph seem to be competing against themselves. Would I have this over the 850 sport ? I doubt it. Only the neat exhaust which allows two full panniers is a big plus for me. When my GS becomes to big I'm sure I'll drop back to something like this 😏
I've become a big fan of this & the Trident. The display with the phone connectivity & controls is very appealing as someone who likes practicality. My only wish is to have the Rear end of the Tiger with the Paniers & then the rest of the bike be the Trident to make the perfect Touring Naked bike minus a windsheld.
Nice review. I test rode one a few weeks back and agree, nothing not to like… However much as I liked the ride I didn’t love the look of the bike. It’s definitely nicer than the competitors you mentioned but don’t think it would tempt me into the shed to polish it on a wet February afternoon. I think it’s the colours that don’t inspire me, Honda have don’t better with the new CB 500x. Great bike though just not for me… decided on a goldline street scrambler instead. Ride safe.
Looks good to ride even in those conditions, but c'mon Triumph we know it sells globally, but uk bikes surely should have heated grips, do the guys at Triumph never ride here, Unforgiveable as everyone in UK seems to mention it.
Thanks for this. Your channel is one of the few places we can get one of these real-world reviews. I also love these do-it-all bikes. I started my road-bike career on one; we called them UJMs way back then. Thanks again.
Great bike but the factory gear ratio is far too low. I'm in top gear at 35mph and it doing 3000rpm. From about 4300rpm and 50mph the bike's harmonics begin to create vibrations that increase as your speed and rpm go higher. So new front sprocket for me - from the factory 16 teeth to 18 teeth. I love the bike, just need more from it at an easier work rate. Mates CB500X is less than 4000rpm at 60mph.......come on Triumph, Sports Tourers aren't just street bikes.
Would you be able to compare/review the Honda CB500X no shop seems to have a demo bike as Honda is trickling customer orders out first. (I know they're a different price range)
I'm in Portugal. It feels pretty real world to me. Although, with 40 degrees outside, no AC, forest fires and inflation, real world is turning into hell very quickly.
Why isn't there a midweight shaft driven ADV bike with less weight and without any stupid radars and other crap? I guess there's the Moto Guzzi V85 but that's about it.
I have the lower comfort seat fitted, and that is still a tad on the tall side for me at 810mm. It's a scourge being a short-a$$! The critical thing is of course the inside-leg measurement and mine is 762mm, hence the issue). I'm getting a kit to lower the suspension by 20mm which, with bike boots on, should make it much more manageable for me. Actually I think there's a kit that will lower the bike by 30mm now - and I don't think you have to shave anything off the side-stand. Other bits and pieces I will get at some stage are heated grips and hand guards, along with cruise control when they make that available. I really think it was foolish of Triumph not to make all these extras available from the start - I can't understand the thinking behind not offering them as optional extras. 🤔🤔🤔
I sat on the demonstrator at my local Triumph dealer (Hampshire), last Saturday of February, I think it was. He had one left on his books, in meh, sorry grey, until the next stock allocation in June. So that’s allocation, not even delivery. So yeah, a very apt review TMF - order one now in time for next winter! 😎 FWIW, I didn’t manage a test ride, but it did feel comfy, however, I can’t get past the cashpoint machine graphics around the dash warning lights 😆
Bought mine last week to replace the tiger 900 gt pro…it’s way quicker on normal road conditions due to the 17” front wheel and smooth buzzy engine..quick shifter is an absolute must on this bike and transforms up shifting way better than the gt pro….have to say I also bought the lower seat not that I’m short at 5,11” just like the flatter feet and lower centre of gravity feel…also improves screen performance. Great all rounder and 60 mpg….gearing is a little short…easy pull always in second. Seemingly an easy bike to live with looking forward to a few more miles. 👍 good video cheers tmf.
My profuse apologies I saw an over size banner, approx almost half the screen “courtesy” message (I almost wanted to spit) and I’m pretty sure that my memory is correct about this, it referred to the site in such a manner that instead of realising that it was a random UA-cam thing I mistakenly thought you had created it. Thanks very much for messaging me back, I realise now that as it hasn’t come up again and you obviously weren’t aware of it, that it was actually a heavy handed random product of the UA-cam pc thought police. I guess you can tell I haven’t watched Dr Who or the beeb in a while. Ps I forgot what I was going to say when I was originally going to comment, probably some old guy criticism about the mudguards, good on you for persevering on new tyres, brakes and bike in the wet.
Things not to like about the bike: I only got a brief look, however, the break pedal looked like the one on the Trident. That is, a spatula from the Poundshop. 10,000 miles could be reached quite quickly, if indeed it is worthy of consideration as a tourer, 2 up? I'm not sure. Oh, and I don't 'gree for Triumph anymore. So, academic pour mois. I'll wait for their brilliant marketing dept to come out with the Tiger sport Timex at £20,000. Chancers!
I'm trading my Tiger 800XR for one of these, as getting old and can't shift the bigger bike anymore. One thing that was a big let down for me is no cruise control - crazy for a touring bike! But I'm told they will have it available soon for a retrograde fit.
That was a really nice bike sounded good, seemed to ride well and from what you said was comfortable so all in all an excellent bike to start your motorcycling career on!
Non adjustable screen??? Andy try pulling on the obvious black handle lol. No centre stand option either.
Yes my bad! Sorry - should have tried pulling it!!
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to be honest ive never thought about buying a triumph before... but this 660 is ticking many boxes...
Great video Andy. I would have liked you to provide the regular service costs alongside the intervals, particularly the valve clearance service charge. For people on a budget this is very helpful to know 👍
My wife and I did a 100-ish mile test ride on varied roads in Lincolnshire UK in October 23 and ordered one the next day. It arrived in March 24. Black with a few silver highlights, integrated panniers, rear rack, heated grips. It is a very easy bike to ride slowly, and I mean that in a good way: 10 mph to 30 mph in busy traffic, it just sits there and you don't have to hold it back or slip the clutch. Just a little bit snatchy in very slow traffic in 1st gear. For daily riding, 1st gear is very low, and the 6 gears are a bit close together. It will sit at 30 mph in 6th, which is the gear that takes you all the way up to the er.. legal limit. I have sometimes slowed down to 30 without changing gear, then lights have changed and I've had to do a quick 6,5,4,3,2,1, then accelerating away when the lights change, I need to fuss through the gears or rev it a bit more then do a double change up once I've hit my required speed. It's unintimidating to ride with or without pillion, but if you drop to 5th or even 4th you've got some exciting acceleration around 7,000 rpm. Otherwise, the bike is happy at anywhere from about 3,000 to 6,000 rpm. It's light and well balanced and steers easily. The screen is easily adjustable but I keep mine low or only 1 notch up, as any higher gives me too much wind noise. The rear shock is remote adjustable just by turning an easily accessible knob, so it's very easy to firm up if you take a pillion or heavy luggage. On the test ride, I found the digital display fussy, but once I had my own bike, I found the various options and now have a favourite display which is easy to read and uncluttered. Lights are very good for proper night riding on unlit country lanes. Nice touch is hazard lights and a parking light option. The heated grips are not as hot as Oxford grips, and the control button is small and is hard to operate with thick gloves, which is exactly when you are likely to need it! My only slight "disappointment" is the lack of engine noise. All my previous bikes have been singles or twins, my last two being Moto Guzzi V-twins. Compared to the friendly chug and grumble, and occasional "bad boy" bark of acceleration, of a twin, the Triumph triple has quite a bland engine note. However, the engine does its job with enthusiasm, and that's the main thing.
Why sell a bike with no centre stand option?? Do Triumph think no one lubes the chain except in a workshop? BAh Humbug!
Can't afford a new one. Will have to wait for secondhand, at 70 years old I think it would suite me well. Time to move up from Kawasaki 300 Ninja.
Yes an excellent bike, fun and easy to live with…
Can't understand why motorcycle manufacturers can't put decent mudguards on bikes. It doesn't cost that much surely.
Looks like a great addition to the range, good for people who find the larger Tiger or GS's too cumbersome. Great tourer for smaller people and new riders.
Finally the world seems to offering some excellent middle weights again, just in time for new and riders heading towards the barn.
I absolutely love that bike! I don’t need one, but it looks very recommendable. As a Tiger 1050 owner it does indeed remind me of my bike. It funny whenever reviewers talk about its relative lack of power. When I first got in to motorcycles, back in the Seventies, the most powerful stock bike was a Kawasaki Z-1. The Tiger 660 has only two less horsepower and is only .4 of a second slower in the quarter mile.
With tyres three times as wide...lol
Why don’t bike have proper rear mudguards anymore? It’s always just a tiny patch of plastic to minimally deflect debris and spray. But what about keeping the muck off the bike’s undersides? Give us a proper rear underguard.
I really like that, I definitely think it's a nicer looking bike than the Trident. Those lights though, seems wrong to have the DRL's on at the same time as the low beam instead of one or the other. 🙂👍
I wish Triumph would put their 1200 Speed Triple engine in a scaled up version of this. I like the Explorer but I’d like something that looks more road biased like this. Something like the S1000XR?
At least doing these reviews gets you out and about on the roads for that real world review. Always interesting, and yes, a nice little machine. All you need. 👍👍🏴🏴
Real world cold and miserable review. Others live in the sun. Greetings from Arizona.
Definitely a rival to the wee strom, priced right in the middle of their range. I think Triumph are onto a winner with this, plus that engine is a sweetheart and has a bit more character to it than the dependable, but soul less linearity of the suzi. I think owning one of these for commuting on and for the odd weekend away would be a really easy decision to make.
Looks a great machine - I’ve mentioned before but I think all bikes should have cruise control and heated grips by default. Triumph could then standardise the controls across the trident and this. The cynic tells me triumph will add this in the “updates” next version..
Heated grips 🤣🤣 Real useful in most of Australia, Arizona, where I am now etc. I think all bikes should have a small fridge tucked under the seat to keep our drinks cool.
Been keeping an eye on this bike as a potential next option, and this sounds like a pretty glowing review for it, especially as a commuting option that can also do some fun weekend trips!
A most excellent bike.
Love the simplicity and lack of electronic devices and over complex switches.
A real everyday bike.
Another winner, I'm sure. A lot of my biking friends down in Portugal have this at the top of their wish list.
Happy travels 👍
P.s Do it in the sun ,if offered! Schoolboy error,, and nothing to be ashamed of!
Nice one
It is an excellent bike this - and I’m sure would be a blast in Portugal! But those launches where everyone gets wined and dined, no thanks….
The triumph dealer local to me has already sold their entire allocation for 2022. Must be doing something right!
I just found your review on the Triumph tiger 660 as I was looking at this as a new bike watched your review so booked a test ride to my amazement your review does not match the bike the screen gives you lots of buffering were ever you put the screen it’s a horrible bike to ride weather protection no way i have to say the worst bike I have ever ridden
Crikey - you clearly have never ridden a Moto Guzzi, Harley Davidson or an older Royal Enfield!
Great looking bike. But, the mudguard is useless. All the muck from the tyre will cake the front of the engine and pipes.
It seems that modern designers forget that some of us don’t ride permanently in sunshine! I’ve said it before, modern, so called mudguards, just aren’t fit for purpose! Full marks to Mr Flyer for using the bike how most of us will and showing us the reality 👍
That is a peeve of mine as well. It seems like only Royal Enfield has a clue about the purpose of fenders these days. I'm thinking that RE could start a lucrative side business designing/producing aftermarket fenders for all the Japanese & European bikes.
At 6'2" it felt rather small for me and the screen just didn't work. I also asked the dealer what was special about red paint that made it £100 more, he couldn't answer so I guess they think more people go for red and pay a premium for it, no centre stand option is a not good either 🤔
Agreed - odd that
Hey, everyone knows that red cars (and bikes) are faster, right? ;-)
Mine's on order, coming June (after umming and arring, went for the blue one) , with hand guards, USB charger and quick-shifter. Watched loads of positive reviews, and reassured to read that you have a high opinion of it!
Yes it's a corker - you'll love it.
So near…. Not so cheap when you have to buy separately the things needed for any practical “adventure`’ bike, including: the back half of the front mudguard, rear shock protector, radiator protector, heated grips, hand guards, stands for chain care, quick shifter…. And then there is the presumably gold-impregnated red paint, at £100 for a couple of brush loads.
The mercenary BMW model of extortionate “optional extras” is alive and well at Triumph.
You will also need to enjoy spending hours and hours on your hands and knees trying to keep the thing clean. If the clever designers were made to ride and look after such bikes for few months perhaps we would get a bit more function to go with their obsession with form.
Over £1200 for a jacket!!!! Come on Mr Flyer, give us some reviews on cheaper accessories? Some of us are only just over minimum wage! Please!
I have reviews in my back catalogue of cheaper kit (RST, Oxford, etc) - you tend to get what you pay for though!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I've got the Oxford jacket and it's working okay for me, I had a Klim jacket and it let water in through the front zip :(
Overrated and over hyped. Under powered for quick riding. Seat to high . No cruise control option. Handling OK but nothing special. Gearing odd feels like it needs another gear. Try Tiger 850-900 range much more fun and better for touring.
Why is it no reviewer talking anything about the ground clearance about this bike..That's one of the most important factor to be discussed on the spec sheet!
I'd mention it if it's an issue - but I didn't find it to be so....
Nice review as always😉. I am interested in this bike but my heart goes to the bmw r1200rs . Would you go for a used bmw Rs or a new Triumph like thid one? I thank viewers than can also share their opinion
Really want one of these to replace my GS but I need cruise control on my bikes……..for the 360 days they’re parked up being looked at 😂
Test rode the Tiger Sport 660 yesterday from the excellent Webbs of Lincoln and the Screen IS adjustable big plastic handgrip at bottom of screen pulls up or pushes down and you had it fully down position in your review, more about the screen in a minute.
Agree with most of the review it’s a fantastic low speed handling bike, if I had ridden this for my mod 1 it would have been way easier weaving through cones doing U-turns etc. It’s amazingly manoeuvrable and feels astonishing light at low speed through town etc. the gearbox is a thing of joy snicking into gears with a beautiful precision and a light progressive clutch.
It’s a soft ride which is fine for what this bikes aimed at but dives a lot with the front brake.
Brakes are good but like the suspension I have test ridden better on 650s. Like you I did get the rear ABS to kick in despot riding on a dry sunny (but cold) day. I too though the rear brake was powerful which I think is why it kicked in. It was however subtle and didn’t upset the bike in any way.
It’s a thoroughly good bike and it looks good too.
There is a low seat option for Missenden ‘Short Arses’ which the bike I rode had on which is 820mm and felt quite hard but was comfy over a three hour ride.
On the plus side the screen was easy to move up and down even on the move but on the minus side I was disappointed by the wind protection. Having ridden a CBR650R last week I thought the tiny race Style screen on the Honda, with a more forward body position granted, kept the wind off my body just as well and more importantly the air hitting me was a lot less turbulent and noisy. In fact the Hondas airflow was entirely smooth and as a result a lot quieter around the HJC helmet I currently have.
I think I would find this fatiguing on a long ride. Atrociously raising the screen makes things much worse, the wind moves from hitting my shoulders and helmet (6ft tall) to hitting the helmet only but becomes even more turbulent. I can feel the screen shedding alternate vortices to left and right so it’s trying to wobble your head all the time and is even noisier around the Helmet!
So an adjustable screen that has to spend its whole time down and doesn’t really do a great job of weather protection. I would look for something aftermarket (when available) to improve this which is disappointing as I would be buying a screen twice. A minor point it the plastic handle to move the screen looks pretty cheapo and I lol let’s the side down for a part that’s in your view the whole time your riding.
While we’re on criticisms and this is a small one, I am not a fan of the soft touch indicators. Particularly in winter gloves I never knew if In hit it right and got the indicators on or off and always had to confirm on the dash which is a distraction you don’t need. What’s wrong with switchgear that clicks as it operates so you feel it work and don’t need to confirm by looking.
I am sure i would get used to this fairly quickly and would be better in my leather summer gloves rather than bulkier winter waterproof ones so only a minor irritant there.
Overall I enjoyed the bike a lot but I found it all a bit soft and slightly underwhelming. I know it’s a different type of bike (the reason i test rode them both to make up my mind) but the Triumph not only lacked the power of the Honda but failed to engage or excite me the way the Honda did. While it’s easy to ride especially at low speed and it’s good at high speeds i didn’t feel instantly at home and that I could feel exactly what was going on under me like I did on the Honda.
Finally while the triple has a lovely rasp to the engine note low down I couldn’t hear it at all at motorway speeds due to wind noise and buffet and far from smooth there is a distinct vibration to the triple engine like but less thumping than a twin but nothing at all like the silky smooth CBR inline 4. The Triunphs ‘character’ might get wearing on a long ride. Low down the revs the Honda CBR650R was really muted but as it got into the higher revs where the big power lives the engine note gets better and better and the Honda is a way smoother unit at all speeds.
All in all I like the triumph a lot and for those that want an easy to live with very easy to ride commuter it’s a great bike but for me the more intense and visceral Honda CBR650R will be getting my money. As an older first big bike on my European tour with my son this summer I may sometimes regret the odd aches and pains from the Hondas mildly sporty seating position but the smile it puts on my face will more than make up for it. My son (ex BSB racer) can also give me some instruction on track too where I am certain the Honda will be much more at ease than thenTiger Sport.
Wow - thanks for the comment!! Prize to you for the longest this month!
Hadn’t realised I waffled on for so long but it was all fresh in my mind from yesterday lol
Howlie crapolie, those are not pot holes, they are MnS pot holes.
I predict this will become Triumph’s best selling bike of the coming year. I was out in the snow and rain the other week on a Triumph Street Scrambler whilst my Tiger Explorer was in for it’s 10,000 mile service and MoT. I was grateful for the heated seat and grips on the way home. 🥶 Another great review Andy. Any chance of a slightly more in-depth review of the Daytona boots please. 😎
Yes maybe in due course, need to get a full season out of the first....
This is a great looking bike and an all year round 'do it all'. I'd be tempted by this so that my Street Triple stays in the garage for better weather. 😀
Any Tiger 660 riders - whats the rev count at 100kph (60mph) - mines at 5000 way too high
Picked up mine on Friday - added the quick shifter, hand guards and heated grips. So far (after only a weekend of riding) it’s very comfortable and just a great bike to ride. I’m really pleased with it. Will be used for commuting and touring. Another good video - thanks
Great additions. You'll have fun. I made three mistake on my first big bike. Didn't think I needed heated grips. My biggest regret.
@@expatbiker6598
Heated grips are definitely a must. I even had them on my vespa.
Congrats on the new bike Mark. When you get a chance, can you advise what the real world mpg is. Important for us commuters especially with the rising fuel costs.
Did you put the quick shifter on from new recently got a mt07 and they said wait till I get to 1000 miles for a quick shifter.
@@socialising6037 it was fitted from new
I’d love to give one of these a go, right up my alley. Unfortunately Triumph doesn’t have a good track record for service/support etc here in Japan
Ouch - methinks 'our man in' just got a stiff email . . . shameful situation really, but considering how our home bike industry crumbled before Japanese efficiency half a century ago, it does have a somewhat delicious irony to it : )
I am on my 5th one now. Done over 250,000ks between them with never even the most minor problem. Can't see being in Japan would make any difference.
@@soaruk3697 any actual facts? Strange that I have been riding them for over 20 years in Australia and the US with not one problem ever. Likewise a lot of my friends have done the same. What is extraordinary about your opinion is that whilst Harley, in particular, and lots of other manufacturers have seen the sales of their road bikes drop over the past decade Triumph continues to grow it's market. If you are correct, how is this happening? For example, I loved my Griso 1200 but it kept breaking down. I spent more fixing that bike than the total in repairs for every other bike I owned in over 40 years. I loved it, but would I buy another one. No way.
Great review, gives insights in daily riding, thinking of upgrading from my 2004 SV650N, as i love the look and style of this tiger 660, allround commuter and sporty riding all tick a box so will line up a test ride at the local dealer.. thx for great review even the trident whats it like to live with review gave me a good idea what the engine would be like
This is weirdly so much nicer to ride than the Trident (and that wasn’t bad!)….
Thanks for the review! Get mine on the 25th March and really enjoyed the test ride. Been waiting for something like this to mainly use on longer days out and trips. Mine has low seat, belly pan, panniers with infills, Triumph Connect module, heated grips, handguards, quickshifter, fog lights ... thats about it I think. I think this would be a great bike for Canary Motorcycle Tours to have in their fleet as would be great for the variety of roads out there :)
Yes I agree!
Two deal breakers for me , that one headlight on thing Triumph insists on doing it plays havoc with my ocd , and the dash is too small.
Pillion seat does not look too good. Front mudguard too short.
No centre stand available, Triumph or aftermarket
Bland. The automotive equivalent of a mock Georgian house. The sort of design that you don't turn back for a second glance at. Sorry for sitting on the fence! Excellent review as usual though👍
Fair enough!
Just tested this bike, I think this is it for me, I was quite surprised with how it handled, top selection in my opinion.
Yes it rides better than it looks doesn’t it…
Nice review as always thanks. Very tempted. I'm with you on the single dipped headlight - the people who design these bikes must never have driven on a dark country road with a LED-lit SUV coming the other way. I'd also be looking for a fender extender for the front - won't look new for long otherwise.
I disagree. Having only one headlight on looks odd to motorists so it is likely to attract more attention, which is good. As for the LED lit SUV or in bumper driving lights for pseudo rally drivers, do you honestly think an extra light will make any difference? Unless it is a blue flashing one, of course.
That is Very True what you say about
Service Schedules..
The yearly Service comes up
Way before 10,000 miles
For most People.
My Kawasaki is Coming up for its
3rdService. In less than 7,000 miles..
And the fact i got my Kawasaki
In 2020 and soon after we were all in
Lockdown threw a spanner in my average milage...but its a crass thing
To moan about when all this Terrible
Stuff is happening in Ukraine ..🇺🇦
Good to hear your views, they sound really positive. I`ve got to book my Speed Twin in for a possible battery change, as it`s not been used all winter, and is now 3 years old, so when i do, i`l be taking one of these for a test ride. I tried it in the showroom when Destination Triumph did a launch evening for the all new Tiger 1200, and the 660 Sport arrived unexpectedly, so they put it together and had it on show, i could have tested it the following day, but had already made plans, so it will have to wait. I`m also looking forward to your long term test review too.
This bike is for those who hate the looks of the Trident (i'm one!) but like the engine. This bike is a sure winner as an affordable all rounder
A value for money do it all Triumph 👍Think this is destined to be Triumph's best selling bike. I would love to see a more sporty version of this bike with the Street Triple 765 engine. Suspect my Carol would buy that bike.
Same here, currently touring Scotland on my Street Triple R. I'm tempted by this bike but just not quite sporty enough for me, hopefully there will be an Arrow can option?
It really is a complete pain how motorcycling press and influencers like you provide such a tight feedback loop to the manufacturers. I have an old (2003) Triumph Trophy 1200 and want to replace it with something new. The trouble is that Triumph don't make anything like that anymore. Why? Because motorcycle press and influencers are not interested in that kind of bike, so manufacturers stopped making them with the result that they are all chasing the same decreasing market. The Tigers might have the luggage that I want, but the pillion seat is a medieval torture device. My 1200 Trophy is comfortable, keeps the rain off me AND my pillion. The problem is that it is heavy and needs 21st century improvements like shaft drive, ABS, proper heated grips, a place to mount a satnav/phone. I don't want to buy Japanese, but...
You are a funny one
Soo it’s just like my 2010 tiger 1050 abs, only without the center stand, heated grips and missing around 35 Horsepower. Don’t get me wrong I love the bike but without cruise control The older 1050 tigers seem to be better bang for your buck.
I do love the old 1050's (I used to own one) but the new Tiger Sport 660 is in a different league of lightness and agility (not to mention tech)
Just test drove one today and the gearing felt very short - I was at 4500 rpm in 6th gear at 45mph. Going from 0-30 required quickly shifting 1st through 4th with the tach flashing the whole time. Loved the bike but felt like I’d constantly be shifting
Gotta ask what your rev count is at 60mph
I'm changing the front sprocket to lengthen the gears. mine 5000rpm at 60mph, it simply too high.
Have to agree with the emerging 10k service intervals comment. Cars can go 18k before an oil change / service but apparently bikes cant? Could agree with high spec sports bikes but for the lower performance end surely longing service intervals could be doable. I suppose they have to pay for the fancy showrooms somehow.
If you commute on your bike and are doing biggish mileage then it’s a big deal but for many / most doing 6 or 8K a year isn’t an issue so it will make little difference to the nunber of services done!
While diesel cars often get extended service intervals most petrol cars are still in the 10,000 - 12,0000 service interval zone. But it’s still good to see bikes getting there too.
Most bikes rev to distinctly higher RPM’s than cars and extract more power than cars per CC of engine which means they do stress oils more which probably has a lot to do with the often shorter service intervals.
The Honda CBR650R I rode last week makes all oat two thirds of the power of my car from 650cc (94HP vs 150) from slightly over 1/3 of the capacity (650 vs 1500)
Just got one, off to Scotland Monday… forecast is rain! Excited!
It wouldn’t be a uk bike trip without a bit of wet!
A really good looking bike!! Love it, it is beginner friendly or maybe too much as a first bike? Thank again for your excellent reviews, cheers ✌️😎
Perfect first big bike - take it easy though, it does go!
I'm getting this motorcycle this coming weekend and can't wait until spring do you know if it's worth paying a nearly 500.00 for the quick slip clutch? As of now there's no accessory for cruise control that is usually about the only complaint I hear about it
I think it comes with a slipper clutch as standard - a quickshifter for £500 would be worth having…
The windscreen should be adjustable -- you just pull it straight up (you can see the little track the bolt follows).
There's lots to like. Great size and amount of power, love the integrated luggage rails, and looks great. Only wish it it had a bit better fuel mileage and more visible front lighting. We've been in need of more reasonable bikes and this hits a lot of marks and the price is right to boot. Having said that, I'm still getting the updated 500X for some light off-roading and much lower running costs. Only 2 weeks until riding season again here in Canada \o/
So what determines the start of the riding season for you?
@@TheMissendenFlyer For me, it's usually when the roads are mostly clear of salt. Once it's consistently above 0C and there's been a good rain, good to go. Some people wait for the street sweepers to go round. Most riders here though only ride when it's a good +20C out and not raining. I'm always envious of your year-round riding, though that can be done in small parts of the west coast. Love the videos as always -- safe riding!
@@Thirsty_Fox Makes sense - I wondered how you could be so precise and say "only 2 weeks until riding season" as if there was a start date!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oh that's just me looking at the 14-day forecast and it's looking like we'll be in good shape 😎 The weather predictions are never mistaken!
Screen is adjustable, test ride yesterday you can easily adjust it on the move too though you will want it down the whole time 👍
Good review as always TMF.
Nice to see someone telling us what it's like in 'Rain' mode.
I'm collecting my Tiger Sport 660 tomorrow, I was a little worried about the rain mode being underpowered and intrusive, but not after watching you use it on the dual carriageway.
Glad you like it.
Take care,
Adam
Congratulations - I since rode this in the dry yesterday - great fun bike.....
The lack of cruise control - even as an option - is completely unfathomable. Triumph provide all the touring kit for this model, and if the electronics allow a Q/Shift, then cruise should be available too. As nice as this bike is, no cruise would be a deal breaker for me.
Yes odd one that....not a deal breaker for me but a few have commented on it here....
No cruise is disappointing. I didn’t realise how much I’d use it till I got my GS. Allows you to vary grip on longer runs as well as a helping hand with speed limits. Had an older GS years ago and put a throttle assist on it to help as I did several 500+ mile days heading across Europe into Ukraine. Hoping to go back their one day when the despot has been fought off.
You say the screen is non adjustable, you need to pay more attention to the product specification! And also you seemed unsure of the type of the instrument display type, once again the specification, part LCD, part TFT.
See my pinned comment - feel free to have a go yourself!
Good review, could be my first big bike once I get round to passing my test, certainly on a shortlist 😀👍🏼
Good choice!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I popped into dealer and there’s 4 folks in front of me awaiting bikes 😕 me thinks it’ll be April/May before I see wee 125 😢
Looks a great bike Andy, BTW the screen is adjustable, just pull push the bar. Another cracking bike by Triumph 👍
Yes my bad, I should have given it a tug.....
Great review as usual.. That jacket looks great but £1250 I'd expect someone from SBS to call every day and zip it up for me. 😂
I did say it is expensive!
This a really nice bike I would have one in a heartbeat have to get a test on one of these .: )
Great review Andy, top marks for going out in the rain. Ride safe.
Isn’t the reason asymmetric lights increase conspicuity because they’re too ugly to ignore?
I’m still dithering about which bike to get next to add to my Guzzi V11 cafe racer. I need a 120 mile m/way and central london commuter that’s good two up with luggage for a few tours per year and that my 5’3” wife feels comfortable riding. So this, DL650XT, Tracer7, NC750X, Versys 650… F800GS is too pricey - currently trying to get test rides booked. I’ve not had a bike under a litre since my FZ750 I sold for my R1 in ‘99 😂 so not getting excited about this range of practical bikes! I need to shift my thinking - great review as always thanks
You might be surprised - some of these "all rounders" are actually fun to ride - the triple in the Tiger 660 for example is a peach!
@@TheMissendenFlyer it’s always great to do lots of test rides! Thanks
What would you choose between a Tiger 660 or Honda Transalp.
Tough call - triumph I think due the triple
Hi Andy, great real life review as always.
Firstly I think this bike looks excellent compared with most others nowadays.
It also does seem like a great tourer / commuter and all rounder which can't be a bad thing. Seems to have plenty enough grunt for a 180kg bike with 80bhp, I would just hope not to become bored and want more power before long...
How did it handle on the twisties in your opinion?
And ignore the trolls in the comments who are just jealous they have nothing better to do than watch UA-cam videos without making any of their own!
I didn't notice any trolls!! I got to take this bike out again the next day and it was dry and sunny - it was such good fun - I really don't think you'll end up wanting more power if you're just a road rider....
Just leave it in Rain Mode for England 😂
Still waiting for it to be released here in Australia - really want a test ride on one!
Nice bike without the over the top electronic suite or ridiculous power outputs and a sensible weight. A very usable machine.
It sure is Nigel, great bike this….
Andy you’re making the decision of which Motorcycle to purchase as my first bike more difficult. This bike was not on my radar, but it is now . Great video Andy In challenging weather conditions.
This would be a great choice as a first big bike.....
Excellent bike I'm sure.which I would love as much as I did my versys 650.
Still to me triumph seem to be competing against themselves. Would I have this over the 850 sport ? I doubt it.
Only the neat exhaust which allows two full panniers is a big plus for me. When my GS becomes to big I'm sure I'll drop back to something like this 😏
Yes it really would be a good replacement for something like a GS if you ride solo - much easier to manage day to day....
I've become a big fan of this & the Trident. The display with the phone connectivity & controls is very appealing as someone who likes practicality. My only wish is to have the Rear end of the Tiger with the Paniers & then the rest of the bike be the Trident to make the perfect Touring Naked bike minus a windsheld.
Great review. Had been patiently waiting for this one to come out. Tiger Sport or Trident 660? 🤔
Tiger Sport for me....
Nice review. I test rode one a few weeks back and agree, nothing not to like…
However much as I liked the ride I didn’t love the look of the bike. It’s definitely nicer than the competitors you mentioned but don’t think it would tempt me into the shed to polish it on a wet February afternoon. I think it’s the colours that don’t inspire me, Honda have don’t better with the new CB 500x. Great bike though just not for me… decided on a goldline street scrambler instead. Ride safe.
Yes I do like those gold lines.....
You mentioned in the review doing another one on the same bike, in the summer months, of a more longer term, did you do one?
Fraid not - sorry!
Only the fairing and tank are colour that’s cheap from triumph.
Don’t think they’re alone in that are they?
Looks good to ride even in those conditions, but c'mon Triumph we know it sells globally, but uk bikes surely should have heated grips, do the guys at Triumph never ride here, Unforgiveable as everyone in UK seems to mention it.
Love your review... ordered mine today...
What make is your jacket please?
It's a Rukka Nivala 2 - Full review coming very soon...stay tuned!
@@TheMissendenFlyer brilliant many thanks
Tiger 660 felt chinsy and not fun to ride, but this is only my personal opinion.
I rode this bike again the next day in the dry sunshine and I thought it was brilliant, great fun! Just shows how peoples opinions differ!
Wish they had cruise control. For long distance riding one needs three things: Heated grips (check), good windscreen (check), cruise control (nada!)
Totally agree....
They should offer this bike with full kit even if it costs more money, a shame.
Thanks for this. Your channel is one of the few places we can get one of these real-world reviews. I also love these do-it-all bikes. I started my road-bike career on one; we called them UJMs way back then. Thanks again.
Thank you as ever Marco!
Looking to leave a bike out In Spain Andy. Could be one of these. T🎉
Good call!
Great bike but the factory gear ratio is far too low. I'm in top gear at 35mph and it doing 3000rpm. From about 4300rpm and 50mph the bike's harmonics begin to create vibrations that increase as your speed and rpm go higher. So new front sprocket for me - from the factory 16 teeth to 18 teeth. I love the bike, just need more from it at an easier work rate. Mates CB500X is less than 4000rpm at 60mph.......come on Triumph, Sports Tourers aren't just street bikes.
It's handsome for sure.
Would you be able to compare/review the Honda CB500X no shop seems to have a demo bike as Honda is trickling customer orders out first.
(I know they're a different price range)
I'm in Portugal. It feels pretty real world to me.
Although, with 40 degrees outside, no AC, forest fires and inflation, real world is turning into hell very quickly.
Why isn't there a midweight shaft driven ADV bike with less weight and without any stupid radars and other crap? I guess there's the Moto Guzzi V85 but that's about it.
I have the lower comfort seat fitted, and that is still a tad on the tall side for me at 810mm. It's a scourge being a short-a$$! The critical thing is of course the inside-leg measurement and mine is 762mm, hence the issue). I'm getting a kit to lower the suspension by 20mm which, with bike boots on, should make it much more manageable for me. Actually I think there's a kit that will lower the bike by 30mm now - and I don't think you have to shave anything off the side-stand.
Other bits and pieces I will get at some stage are heated grips and hand guards, along with cruise control when they make that available. I really think it was foolish of Triumph not to make all these extras available from the start - I can't understand the thinking behind not offering them as optional extras. 🤔🤔🤔
I sat on the demonstrator at my local Triumph dealer (Hampshire), last Saturday of February, I think it was. He had one left on his books, in meh, sorry grey, until the next stock allocation in June. So that’s allocation, not even delivery. So yeah, a very apt review TMF - order one now in time for next winter! 😎
FWIW, I didn’t manage a test ride, but it did feel comfy, however, I can’t get past the cashpoint machine graphics around the dash warning lights 😆
I currently ride a Tiger 1050 which I really like except it is heavy. This 660 could be the replacement bike I am looking for.
TMF's goldilocks zone... includes many generations of bears! But why not? most bikes are pretty awesome.
Bought mine last week to replace the tiger 900 gt pro…it’s way quicker on normal road conditions due to the 17” front wheel and smooth buzzy engine..quick shifter is an absolute must on this bike and transforms up shifting way better than the gt pro….have to say I also bought the lower seat not that I’m short at 5,11” just like the flatter feet and lower centre of gravity feel…also improves screen performance. Great all rounder and 60 mpg….gearing is a little short…easy pull always in second. Seemingly an easy bike to live with looking forward to a few more miles. 👍 good video cheers tmf.
Congratulations!
60 mog is 4,7 l / 100 km not so bad. Is it contains commuting on big city traffic?
My profuse apologies I saw an over size banner, approx almost half the screen “courtesy” message (I almost wanted to spit) and I’m pretty sure that my memory is correct about this, it referred to the site in such a manner that instead of realising that it was a random UA-cam thing I mistakenly thought you had created it. Thanks very much for messaging me back, I realise now that as it hasn’t come up again and you obviously weren’t aware of it, that it was actually a heavy handed random product of the UA-cam pc thought police.
I guess you can tell I haven’t watched Dr Who or the beeb in a while.
Ps I forgot what I was going to say when I was originally going to comment, probably some old guy criticism about the mudguards, good on you for persevering on new tyres, brakes and bike in the wet.
Things not to like about the bike: I only got a brief look, however, the break pedal looked like the one on the Trident. That is, a spatula from the Poundshop. 10,000 miles could be reached quite quickly, if indeed it is worthy of consideration as a tourer, 2 up? I'm not sure. Oh, and I don't 'gree for Triumph anymore. So, academic pour mois. I'll wait for their brilliant marketing dept to come out with the Tiger sport Timex at £20,000. Chancers!
I'm trading my Tiger 800XR for one of these, as getting old and can't shift the bigger bike anymore. One thing that was a big let down for me is no cruise control - crazy for a touring bike! But I'm told they will have it available soon for a retrograde fit.
I don’t know if you can remember back, but do you think this is a more versatile bike than the F900XR?
Yes - though that is a lovely bike too. but the Trumpet is better IMO....
@@TheMissendenFlyer - oh good because I’ve got one on order, as part of my downsizing…
Can we get an ADV version of this bike with 21/18 wheels and appropriate luggage provisions? Pleeeeeeezee?
That was a really nice bike sounded good, seemed to ride well and from what you said was comfortable so all in all an excellent bike to start your motorcycling career on!
Agreed - great first big bike