I've got a Xmax 300 and I'm absolutely happy with it. We all know Yamaha is one of the most reliable brands on the market and as you guys say it's sporty, comfy and the space it's got under the seat is huge. I tried Honda Kymco and Paggio before buying it but in my personal opinion the Xmax is the best one.
Based on this review I bought the Xmax, although before buying it I hired a Vespa for two days while I was in Rome (Aug 2021). I loved the Vespa in almost every way except lack of storage and small fuel tank. In style and character the Vespa wins hands down, but in real world terms the Yamaha can’t be beaten
I had a Yamaha XMAX 300 - 2019 model matte gray color i bought it last July 01 a week old from now , i'm so happy coz it's very easy to used or to drive and i have no regrets at all . . . for me yamaha is the best scooter 👌😄👍
As someone who started out on Lambretta's and Vespa's, moved onto big bikes and now after getting board of them just love my Vespa GTS, I feel the others aren't true scooters. I have hired Sym, Beverly and Yamaha when overseas and although competent machines they just don't cut it for me. You may as well have a bike, they are plug ugly too. I have just done a 450 mile "lockdown" tour on my GTS and I loved it. The aim was to take photo's and document empty towns in the British South West.
Dean Fisher Have a look at Scooter Lab U.K. (SLUKj. They have lots of written and and video reviews of both modern, retro-modern and classic /vintage scooters, as well as accessories and tuning mods reviews. And road trip adventures from all over Europe. They’re active scooter riders themselves so the reviews are non biased and no nonsense. :]
I had a GTS 300 and bought now a Beverly 350. Technically the Bev is better in all points definetly and is much cheaper. But I aggree, that the Vespa is the most beautiful scooter and wins all hearts. I also use my scooter for long rides and so the Bev is the best allrounder for me
Test drove the XMAX 300 and the Beverly 350. Ended up buying the BV350 as it handled better, felt nimbler in urban traffic, and the best part, it literally destroyed the XMAX in acceleration. The Yamaha engine is way smoother though, and it comes with more amenities.
Hands down for the Beverly 350, nice slim looking, very stable riding at high speed and with winds, very reliable engine and very low maintenance costs.
I have an Xmax 300, and talking about the storage, if you have the Yamaha Comfort Seat installed (which is stock on European markets), the front part of the seat will only fit a half faced helmet, it will not fit a full faced helmet because of the Comfort Seats seat height (which is built too low for short riders). If you have the ordinary Xmax seats (which comes stock in Asian markets) Which the seat sits taller, you can fit 2 full faced helmets at the front and back part of the seat.
Ideal Bike The Vespa is for me the winner. It is hyper practical and looks awesome, although not in that green. You can put a whole big bag of groceries between your legs, makng it great for shopping.
@@ArmadilloGodzilla I agree. for the money these cost so much might as well go for a motorcycle. Scooters used to be for urban travel and tight traffic. Now they are heavy hugh and complicated. I speak as the owner of a 1997 Honda Helix cn250 that does everything these do and I can do all the maintenance myself. The Vespa GT 300 would be my choice too.
@@ArmadilloGodzilla I agree. I have the 250gts and it has plenty of power and the small size makes it very easy to handle. I've had it on the interstate and it was fine.
@@markhopkinsphoto7257 I feel all modern scooters are ugly, I'm on my second GTS and after hiring a sting of others abroad and not being happy with them I'd go for the GTS every time.
X-Max 300 is the best overall scooter on the market imho. It is fun, fast, practical, comfortable, reliable and economical. A great scooter both for the city and for longer trips.
I have driven the Xmax 300, Bmw c400gt, Kymco downtown 350, Kawasaki J300 and the Beverly 350... Nothing beats the Beverly in terms of acceleration and agility in that...Best price/performance scooter in the category I have drag raced it even with Bmw c650gt(there were 2 passengers on the BMW TBH) but from standstill to 100 beats the C650 as well...Monster scooter
I rode the BV350 and the Vespa GTV the Piaggio felt like a a real motorbike. The Vespa made me smile. I bought the most impractical choice ;-) Just a like a Porsche 911 makes no sense but its an awesome ride ;-)
Yamaha for me for the storage and the expected better reliability. If you want yet another scooter test, would be worth xmax 300 vs xmax 400 - I'm doubting the 400 has much to offer for its price. And as others suggest - a kymco. They're a massive manufacturer, and should perhaps be doing better in more parts of Europe.
Oh and another thing: be careful with the Vespa. It will accelerate like hell leaving all the others behind in the first 200 m., especially in traffic, but it can easily kill you (small wheels, medium brakes, very very bad on wet road).
@@JoshInsightDeep After 2015 The GTS has had ABS. It also has both front and rear discs so I don't know what they are talking about when they say it has bad brakes.
I tested the Yamaha Nmax 155 and the Vespa 150 I believe. For me, the handling of the Nmax was magical, the breaking solid and steady. I bought it immediately.
Rented the xmax 300 in hungary and have a SH300i at home. Loved the xmax on those 500km. Not very far behind the big wheeled SH on bad roads and a very sporty feeling and less than 6 grand. Burgman 400 might be good, but close to 8 grand here. No chinese BMW for me.
@@CKPHH Because is made by Kymco (Taiwan) for BMW, but Kymco moved factories to China. I would be more worried about the reality that BMW keeps their scooters in offer for very short time so not many of those sold = lack of parts = expensive for long ownership and so on
Manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
BMW C400 line is manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
Being 6‘3“ the BMW is the only one that fits me comfortably - of you’re tall and don’t care too much about the money you can’t do any better. I even liked it more than bigger, more expensive scooters like the 650 or the TMAX.
Based on my own personal experience I'd be more comfortable knowing the Yamaha isn't likely to fall apart right after the warranty period expires. You can NOT say the same thing about the BMW!!
You sure can when you learn the Bmw is a Kimco that has a major design flaw with the center stand that will break the engine casing! Yamaha is very high-quality and can maintain easily. This Bmw is BS even if it is smooth and plush. The kickstand is a dealbreaker alone, if it rolls downhill it can mean an engine replacement. it's a big deal!
I m am 5'5" and I find the BV 350 fits me perfectly. I can even flat foot if I am wearing boots with a heel. Finally something made for people my size. LOL!
I have a beverly 350. I can confirm the saddle issues. I am 1,80 cm tall and the position is really short. The engine is marvellous. Something so superiour the 300 i cannot believe. The big matter for me anyway are plastics. They are not well cut and feel cheap. At this time i am considering the xmax 400.
I stretched the legs of my Vespa gts250. It got to 78 miles per hour on the interstate. Now, I wouldn't want to hold it at that. 50 is a nice cruising speed. I just wanted to see what it would do.
For the price of the BMW you will get the Yamaha X-Max 400 and that leaves the BMW in the dust. Or even better a Sym TL500 and enjoy the power of a 2-cylinder engine. The Sym is a scooter that you need to ride for some weeks. Then you will detect, that is not the most fancy, but a trusty friend. For the price difference it is easy to add a top wind deflector or even changing the screen. The Beverly is the cheapest, and if you invest a 200 or 300 Euro every seat maker can upgrade the seat to a luxury sofa. The 16 inch wheels are invaluable on not well maintained city roads.
Greetings from greece. In fact, the cruisym is really popular here, a huge amount of scooters is etither beverly or cruisym. You are doing an excellent job, keep on in this way
Yes the Honda Forza should be in this test. And it would be first together with the Yamaha Xmax 300. The BMW however is way to expensive no matter how good it may be! I drive the Xmax 125 and i love it.
Manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
Suzuki do a Burgman 200cc. It's a cracking scooter that can cruise at 75 Mph and has better fuel consumption than all of those reviewed, and lots of underseat storage. It won't out accelerate the reviewed scooters but it will easily keep up on most roads. Its only downside is the floorboards are a bit too high and with the low seat your knees are too high unless you are short. The Beverly 300 is the most stable and compliant round twisties and poor surfaces, and also has tons of underseat storage. It is also the best value of all these scooters. The BMW and Tmax are grossly over-priced.
Thanks for this review! Most of the scoots are what I am interested in. Just not the sym. It seems like a cheap and old scooter. Also I don't know the brand so.. My pick would be the Yamaha for it's storage space and long ride capability. BMW looks really nice but the storage is not great and I don't like the helmet fits only while parking -feature. Beverly and GTS are great for city.
I have the xmax 300 for one year now and tried all the others in this test (either in the shop or with the help of friends). The xmax is xcellent if you have money to spend on service and parts. Bmw no way too expensive but very nice on the road. The Italians = usual reliability problems after 1/2 years. The Honda forza 300 = same as xmax. So the middle solution = sym but you really have to compromise. The sym will accompany you for many cheap and reliable years with a good money to value rate but no equal to yamaha/bmw/beverly quality and styling.
Talk about anti vespa. I ride a primavera 125. Its very stable economical top speed 65 mph. Not saying these bikes are no good, where was the Xevo? Price of the BMW, can by small car, dry, warm and Safer.
Yes I was wondering that. BV 350 also has longer wheelbase for comfort, so would've been better competition. One scooter costing twice as much as any other also.. Maybe include the Honda X-ADV also then
Dude, I watch your reviews and enjoy them. But come on man, let your buddy with the specs and who test rode the bikes finish what he has to say. Stop cutting him off..
The Vespa should be as big as a scooter gets, otherwise it defeats the purpose of a scooter. The rest weigh a ton and you'd be better off with a light motorcycle. If you only buy these maxi scooters for their convenient twist and go transmissions, consider adding a quick shifter to a motorcycle and a good luggage rack. A low maintenance Moto Guzzi V7 would not only be lighter but a whole lot more fun, useful and rewarding to own. :)
Storage, superior comfort...no shifting in stop and go traffic, they are all under 400lbs and have very high mpg. The only reason to get a similar motorcycle would be personal bias no?
@Roger Rarebit fair call if it's becoming painful to mount and dismount. Glad to hear you're riding, that's the main thing. The Fuoco is a very clever design! :)
@@ge-8135 Don't get me wrong, I love scooters but getting into maxi size doesn't quite make same sense to me... Granted, storage is better only if a motorcycle isn't equipped with a luggage rack or panniers but comfort is subjective. You'll find that maxi scooters misalign your spine, legs out in front with all ones weight placed onto the pelvis (like a cruise style motorcycle) places extra stress on the vertebrae, as opposed to a neutral seating position on a standard motorcycle. Suspension is often longer in travel and more compliant with room for greater adjustments. This type of alignment with addition of foot pegs that are generally directly under the hips allows the rider to stand or lift their bottom off the seat easily when riding over potholes, bumps and rough surfaces without having to absorb the impact through the pelvic region. Smaller step through scooter frames with flat floor boards are just as good in that respect. True, no shifting in stop and start traffic is a nice convenience however some recent advances in automatic motorcycle transmissions makes this argument redundant (Honda's brilliant NC700X?) MPG... Hmmm... not really. There are plenty of sub 650cc motorcycles that are miserly fuel users. It's not uncommon to expect under 5 litres for smaller capacity motorcycles. I'm sure we all have personal biases when choosing transport, exploring all possibilities and experiencing each contraption with an open mind is the main thing.
I have a Vespa 300GTS... It has plenty of power, it handles the freeway reasonably well but reacts badly to side winds, you really do have to hang on! I like the BV but the seat is terrible!!
Thanks, guys. Great review. I have PCX 150 and a Beat 110 in Indonesia, but am considering an Xmax 300 in the U.S.A.. I'm curious if the Burgman 200 can handle the highway, also (because the 400 is over my price range.) Stick with Yamaha, right?
I think you have understated the Piaggio 350 power especially when you compared it to your winner the Yamaha Vmax. PIAGGIO maximum power 26KW @ 8250 rpm. Maximum Torque 32 Nm @ 6250rpm BMW Maximum Power 25kw @ 7500rpm Maximum Torque 35nm @ 6000rpm YAMAHA Maximum power20.6 kW @ 7,250 rpm. Maximum Torque29.0 Nm @ 5,750 rpm Sym Maximum Power 17.2 kW @ 7500rpm Maximum Torque 24nm @ 5500rpm Vespa Maximum Power 15.8 kW @ RPM 7500 Maximum Torque 22.30 Nm @ 5500rpm
You missed a great brand that is very popular and just as good as any of these. KYMCO..... The Kymco Downtown 350i could run circles round any of these. But you got the SYM (which is, as you said, new on the market) as opposed to what you said in the beginning that these are the most popular scooters?.... The mind boggles. The BMW is not popular, it's overpriced. It's just a bmw... The X-max at high speed develops an instability that should not be there. The Beverly is a great scooter for what it's designed to do. The Vespa... is a Vespa.... Fashion, but a good bike nonetheless. Why you tested a scooter on the motorway is in my opinion a pointless exercise. I still really like all your reviews.
because the motorway would be fast to test high speed if you want to travel in the city fine...but from town to town on faster roads then you would need to include faster riding roads.
BMW C400 line is manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
I own Xmax 2020 300 and NMax V2 2021 Yconnect and honestly I prefer NMax for city riding and Xmax for the highway now I did try BMW and it’s great but I would choose Xmax over it that’s why I got mine. By the way Honda ADV 150 is great as well not sure why you didn’t include it on your review? It’s my own opinion guys.
@@sociaaljessie5431 that is funny , because height of the rider has nothing to do with helmet size ;-) Even Kawasaki dealer told me when viewing J300 that it will not fit full face helmet. I have try to put my helmet on and ...... dealer was right ;-)
@@sociaaljessie5431 I do not need any proof my love. I have seen it , I had test ride and most definitely Kawasaki is worst then Honda Forza or Yamaha Xmax. But ... everyone can have their own opinion.
Hi guys. Too bad you didn't include the Kymco Downtown 350i in the test. I have one and I wouldn't change it with the BMW C400GT (for example). The price / quality ratio is much higher than BMW, which requires too much money just to show the BMW logo! Downtown 350i has power (29 PS), just 195 kg weight, large storage space, perfectly comfortable saddle and a price ... extraordinary. In all tourist destinations, the workhorse for scooter rentals is ... Kymco; I'm wodering why?! I am a Romanian living in Germany (Stuttgart) and it is very popular here.
Knocking the Vespa for a single disc? Aren’t all the scooters single disc, except maybe the BMW? Other reviews of the GTS say the braking and ride are fine, even on the 12” tires. I’m sure the BMW is very nice, but it’s a pretty expensive.
Manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
I like to have a scooter for in town. On the hiway it's my Harley. In town my Vespa does the trick. When your in the city you want small, quick, park anywhere, convenience. Honda metropolitan is great but hills can be a bear. If only they made it with a 150cc engine.
The guy kept saying his pick was the BMW, and the other one kept saying “Yeah, but...”, Always looking for a reason to disregard it. I mean, if he had already made up his mind, why include it in the comparison. “The BMW is the winner, but also the Yamaha...”. OK...
The snarky attitude regarding the Vespa was unfortunate. It was evident even before you had ridden the scooters that you didn’t like the Vespa. I have a 2014 GTV and it is a fine scooter. It is very quick off the line and is quite easy to ride quickly through turns. I ride mine at 70mph on the freeway with no problem, but not for long distances.
Vespa is a classic, it may be not perfect, but this is not why you buy one. In 2 years, the BMW or Yamaha will look obsolete, when new design comes out, but a Vespa not. It is and will be always the most beautiful. And by the way, at 120 it is not correct that it is unstable or wobbly or that it does not brake.
I had a Vespa 250 GTS and it was perfectly stable at speed. However it was wobbly at around 28-30 mph especially if you removed one hand from the bars.
@@fingerhorn4well, that is actually right, but for safety reasons I would in general not ride at higher speeds with just one hand, even if it is perfectly stable. At the end, what really matters is the feeling you have, no matter what bike you ride. Cheers and happy riding.
I've got a Xmax 300 and I'm absolutely happy with it. We all know Yamaha is one of the most reliable brands on the market and as you guys say it's sporty, comfy and the space it's got under the seat is huge. I tried Honda Kymco and Paggio before buying it but in my personal opinion the Xmax is the best one.
I have the smaller Nmax. I love it. One day I will try the Xmax !
Based on this review I bought the Xmax, although before buying it I hired a Vespa for two days while I was in Rome (Aug 2021). I loved the Vespa in almost every way except lack of storage and small fuel tank. In style and character the Vespa wins hands down, but in real world terms the Yamaha can’t be beaten
I had a Yamaha XMAX 300 - 2019 model matte gray color i bought it last July 01 a week old from now , i'm so happy coz it's very easy to used or to drive and i have no regrets at all . . . for me yamaha is the best scooter 👌😄👍
As someone who started out on Lambretta's and Vespa's, moved onto big bikes and now after getting board of them just love my Vespa GTS, I feel the others aren't true scooters. I have hired Sym, Beverly and Yamaha when overseas and although competent machines they just don't cut it for me. You may as well have a bike, they are plug ugly too. I have just done a 450 mile "lockdown" tour on my GTS and I loved it. The aim was to take photo's and document empty towns in the British South West.
Well said 👍 100%agree
@@SCALE_SLOTCARS_AND_RC Pretty much exactly my thoughts also
So few real scooter reviews, thanks for doing this. Great job.
Dean Fisher Have a look at Scooter Lab U.K. (SLUKj. They have lots of written and and video reviews of both modern, retro-modern and classic /vintage scooters, as well as accessories and tuning mods reviews. And road trip adventures from all over Europe. They’re active scooter riders themselves so the reviews are non biased and no nonsense. :]
Only one real scooter here!
I LOVE my 2019 Vespa GTS 300 Touring. It has enough power, is comfortable and looks amazing.
I had a GTS 300 and bought now a Beverly 350. Technically the Bev is better in all points definetly and is much cheaper. But I aggree, that the Vespa is the most beautiful scooter and wins all hearts. I also use my scooter for long rides and so the Bev is the best allrounder for me
Test drove the XMAX 300 and the Beverly 350. Ended up buying the BV350 as it handled better, felt nimbler in urban traffic, and the best part, it literally destroyed the XMAX in acceleration. The Yamaha engine is way smoother though, and it comes with more amenities.
Hands down for the Beverly 350, nice slim looking, very stable riding at high speed and with winds, very reliable engine and very low maintenance costs.
Беверли это король скутеров - это Баланс между мощью габаритами и ветрозащитой - конкурент ему Хонда CH 300 ...
I have an Xmax 300, and talking about the storage, if you have the Yamaha Comfort Seat installed (which is stock on European markets), the front part of the seat will only fit a half faced helmet, it will not fit a full faced helmet because of the Comfort Seats seat height (which is built too low for short riders). If you have the ordinary Xmax seats (which comes stock in Asian markets) Which the seat sits taller, you can fit 2 full faced helmets at the front and back part of the seat.
Vespa GTS it's just amazing! Congrats for the review!
Ideal Bike The Vespa is for me the winner. It is hyper practical and looks awesome, although not in that green. You can put a whole big bag of groceries between your legs, makng it great for shopping.
@@ArmadilloGodzilla I agree. for the money these cost so much might as
well go for a motorcycle. Scooters used to be for urban travel and tight traffic. Now they are heavy hugh and complicated. I speak as the owner of a 1997 Honda Helix cn250 that does everything these do and I can do all the maintenance myself. The Vespa GT 300 would be my choice too.
@@ArmadilloGodzilla
I agree. I have the 250gts and it has plenty of power and the small size makes it very easy to handle. I've had it on the interstate and it was fine.
Oh well but it’s ugly.
@@markhopkinsphoto7257 I feel all modern scooters are ugly, I'm on my second GTS and after hiring a sting of others abroad and not being happy with them I'd go for the GTS every time.
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm currently doing some searching on what to buy as my first bike and the Yamaha looks like a top contender.
X-Max 300 is the best overall scooter on the market imho. It is fun, fast, practical, comfortable, reliable and economical. A great scooter both for the city and for longer trips.
I have the USA version of the Xmax. And I love it for my daily commute
Xmas? Including Rudolf?
I bought the Yamaha a year ago, and i love it.
Should have also compared the average MPG for each. For some that is a reason to select a scooter over a motorcycle.
Interested in the BV350, it uses premium and averages 62 to the usg. My heavier REH gets 75!
I have driven the Xmax 300, Bmw c400gt, Kymco downtown 350, Kawasaki J300 and the Beverly 350... Nothing beats the Beverly in terms of acceleration and agility in that...Best price/performance scooter in the category
I have drag raced it even with Bmw c650gt(there were 2 passengers on the BMW TBH) but from standstill to 100 beats the C650 as well...Monster scooter
To you sir I couldn't agree more..💯. And the only bike on UA-cam I've seen escape a police chase... The end
I rode the BV350 and the Vespa GTV the Piaggio felt like a a real motorbike. The Vespa made me smile. I bought the most impractical choice ;-) Just a like a Porsche 911 makes no sense but its an awesome ride ;-)
Yamaha for me for the storage and the expected better reliability. If you want yet another scooter test, would be worth xmax 300 vs xmax 400 - I'm doubting the 400 has much to offer for its price. And as others suggest - a kymco. They're a massive manufacturer, and should perhaps be doing better in more parts of Europe.
Xmax rules!😎🛵
Very good review of the mid-size Scooters. Thank you!
The sym cruisym 300 is a very good scooter and I like it very much!
Good review. BMW MUST be the best of this set for that price. So the overall winner is correctly the Yamaha, I think.
Bwm is better trust me.
Oh and another thing: be careful with the Vespa. It will accelerate like hell leaving all the others behind in the first 200 m., especially in traffic, but it can easily kill you (small wheels, medium brakes, very very bad on wet road).
Doesn't any ABS?
@@JoshInsightDeep After 2015 The GTS has had ABS. It also has both front and rear discs so I don't know what they are talking about when they say it has bad brakes.
I completely agree! Those little 12 inch wheels are not safe at speed nor for cornering. Vespers are only for around town
I tested the Yamaha Nmax 155 and the Vespa 150 I believe. For me, the handling of the Nmax was magical, the breaking solid and steady. I bought it immediately.
Rented the xmax 300 in hungary and have a SH300i at home. Loved the xmax on those 500km. Not very far behind the big wheeled SH on bad roads and a very sporty feeling and less than 6 grand. Burgman 400 might be good, but close to 8 grand here. No chinese BMW for me.
overboost7667 why is bmw chinese?
@@CKPHH because its made in China with a German (bmw) price.
guy smith got it .
@@CKPHH Because is made by Kymco (Taiwan) for BMW, but Kymco moved factories to China. I would be more worried about the reality that BMW keeps their scooters in offer for very short time so not many of those sold = lack of parts = expensive for long ownership and so on
Manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
I have a 2016 Forza 300 and love it. Shame the new Honda wasn't in this test, thats the one I'd prefer.
splodge 57 I came here for the same thing, I suppose it would be closest to the Yamaha out of the lot.
BMW C400 line is manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
Thnx for the review.. Im heading to yamaha dealer now.. 😁
Being 6‘3“ the BMW is the only one that fits me comfortably - of you’re tall and don’t care too much about the money you can’t do any better. I even liked it more than bigger, more expensive scooters like the 650 or the TMAX.
Always VESPA !
Vespa is good, but it gets rust easily. specially when you live on salty grounds..
beverly 350 sport touring
You named it! The 350 would be a much better match to the other scooters in the field. What a pity!
Yes i just wanted to say that i like beverly more than yamaha thats wrong what they did they should put it in top 3 not yamaha.
Based on my own personal experience I'd be more comfortable knowing the Yamaha isn't likely to fall apart right after the warranty period expires. You can NOT say the same thing about the BMW!!
You sure can when you learn the Bmw is a Kimco that has a major design flaw with the center stand that will break the engine casing! Yamaha is very high-quality and can maintain easily. This Bmw is BS even if it is smooth and plush. The kickstand is a dealbreaker alone, if it rolls downhill it can mean an engine replacement. it's a big deal!
great job guys! my favourite would be the x-max although the honda forza should be in such a review.
Vespa!! There is no Substitute.
You should do an update on this when you can get a 2019 forza300, I have one and love it..
I m am 5'5" and I find the BV 350 fits me perfectly. I can even flat foot if I am wearing boots with a heel. Finally something made for people my size. LOL!
I have a beverly 350. I can confirm the saddle issues. I am 1,80 cm tall and the position is really short. The engine is marvellous. Something so superiour the 300 i cannot believe. The big matter for me anyway are plastics. They are not well cut and feel cheap. At this time i am considering the xmax 400.
Be careful of the Xmax 400. Very unstable at higher speeds. My friend has a momo design X-Max 400 and it got quite scarey above 120 Kms per hour.
I have a Piaggio Xevo 250ie the model before the 3 wheel scooter with high windscreen and I am very happy with it.
I stretched the legs of my Vespa gts250. It got to 78 miles per hour on the interstate. Now, I wouldn't want to hold it at that. 50 is a nice cruising speed. I just wanted to see what it would do.
For the price of the BMW you will get the Yamaha X-Max 400 and that leaves the BMW in the dust. Or even better a Sym TL500 and enjoy the power of a 2-cylinder engine.
The Sym is a scooter that you need to ride for some weeks. Then you will detect, that is not the most fancy, but a trusty friend. For the price difference it is easy to add a top wind deflector or even changing the screen.
The Beverly is the cheapest, and if you invest a 200 or 300 Euro every seat maker can upgrade the seat to a luxury sofa. The 16 inch wheels are invaluable on not well maintained city roads.
power of the 2 cylinder? that shit with 41 hp and 220+ kg cant move, my beverly 350 runs faster
xmax 400 is slow as fuck aswell, i destroyed it in acceleration, bmw runs much faster than the xmax
Greetings from greece. In fact, the cruisym is really popular here, a huge amount of scooters is etither beverly or cruisym. You are doing an excellent job, keep on in this way
What about the Suzuki Burgman 400?
Respect for a nice review. I only wpnder why you guys doesnt mention Xmax 300 Tech Max with heated grips and heated Seats.
Yes the Honda Forza should be in this test. And it would be first together with the Yamaha Xmax 300. The BMW however is way to expensive no matter how good it may be! I drive the Xmax 125 and i love it.
Manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
Suzuki do a Burgman 200cc. It's a cracking scooter that can cruise at 75 Mph and has better fuel consumption than all of those reviewed, and lots of underseat storage. It won't out accelerate the reviewed scooters but it will easily keep up on most roads. Its only downside is the floorboards are a bit too high and with the low seat your knees are too high unless you are short. The Beverly 300 is the most stable and compliant round twisties and poor surfaces, and also has tons of underseat storage. It is also the best value of all these scooters. The BMW and Tmax are grossly over-priced.
Thanks for this review! Most of the scoots are what I am interested in. Just not the sym. It seems like a cheap and old scooter. Also I don't know the brand so.. My pick would be the Yamaha for it's storage space and long ride capability. BMW looks really nice but the storage is not great and I don't like the helmet fits only while parking -feature. Beverly and GTS are great for city.
the only review that shows the c400 with top box...thanks!
I miss my scooter sometimes. Maybe will have one in the collection again
This is an excellent review!
I have the xmax 300 for one year now and tried all the others in this test (either in the shop or with the help of friends). The xmax is xcellent if you have money to spend on service and parts. Bmw no way too expensive but very nice on the road. The Italians = usual reliability problems after 1/2 years. The Honda forza 300 = same as xmax. So the middle solution = sym but you really have to compromise. The sym will accompany you for many cheap and reliable years with a good money to value rate but no equal to yamaha/bmw/beverly quality and styling.
how much you pay on service a year for xmax
@@silentinvestor Do it yourself ,if you have some mechanical skills.
@@anthonydowling3356 the small ones i do
Talk about anti vespa. I ride a primavera 125. Its very stable economical top speed 65 mph.
Not saying these bikes are no good, where was the Xevo?
Price of the BMW, can by small car, dry, warm and Safer.
Xevo is not sold any more.
You should have taken Piaggio BV 350 (338cc). BV 300S (278cc) is too short of engine for this comparison.
Yet they tested the sym which is only a 300?
@@Dwainpipe21 Sure. But Sym has a 400cc model (399cc) and piaggio does not reach more than 338cc
@@discoukudiscouku7916 so my point still stands then ?
If you have the BMW 400 you should have Beverly 350
Yes I was wondering that. BV 350 also has longer wheelbase for comfort, so would've been better competition. One scooter costing twice as much as any other also.. Maybe include the Honda X-ADV also then
Yes
@@nivelan BV 350 has 33hp and tops out at 90+ and light at 395lbs
If you want a chuckle, watch this with the English subtitles on.
Nice review GUYS
Dude, I watch your reviews and enjoy them. But come on man, let your buddy with the specs and who test rode the bikes finish what he has to say. Stop cutting him off..
Couldn't agree more. Lack of Intel, HP, wheel size, tank capacity, fuel cons...etc
ADHD
Piaggio x10 350.. Love it.
For me the.most acceleration and speedy bike and handling good is piaggio beverly
Thanks for the nice Test. Could you test the real maxi Scooter? Yamaha T-max, Suzuki Burgman 650, the BMW 650, and the Kymco 550? 😀
Thank you very very much!
I enjoyed your review
The Vespa should be as big as a scooter gets, otherwise it defeats the purpose of a scooter. The rest weigh a ton and you'd be better off with a light motorcycle. If you only buy these maxi scooters for their convenient twist and go transmissions, consider adding a quick shifter to a motorcycle and a good luggage rack. A low maintenance Moto Guzzi V7 would not only be lighter but a whole lot more fun, useful and rewarding to own. :)
Storage, superior comfort...no shifting in stop and go traffic, they are all under 400lbs and have very high mpg. The only reason to get a similar motorcycle would be personal bias no?
@Roger Rarebit fair call if it's becoming painful to mount and dismount. Glad to hear you're riding, that's the main thing. The Fuoco is a very clever design! :)
@@ge-8135 Don't get me wrong, I love scooters but getting into maxi size doesn't quite make same sense to me... Granted, storage is better only if a motorcycle isn't equipped with a luggage rack or panniers but comfort is subjective. You'll find that maxi scooters misalign your spine, legs out in front with all ones weight placed onto the pelvis (like a cruise style motorcycle) places extra stress on the vertebrae, as opposed to a neutral seating position on a standard motorcycle. Suspension is often longer in travel and more compliant with room for greater adjustments. This type of alignment with addition of foot pegs that are generally directly under the hips allows the rider to stand or lift their bottom off the seat easily when riding over potholes, bumps and rough surfaces without having to absorb the impact through the pelvic region. Smaller step through scooter frames with flat floor boards are just as good in that respect. True, no shifting in stop and start traffic is a nice convenience however some recent advances in automatic motorcycle transmissions makes this argument redundant (Honda's brilliant NC700X?) MPG... Hmmm... not really. There are plenty of sub 650cc motorcycles that are miserly fuel users. It's not uncommon to expect under 5 litres for smaller capacity motorcycles. I'm sure we all have personal biases when choosing transport, exploring all possibilities and experiencing each contraption with an open mind is the main thing.
Got a V7 Milano and it is a peach, not only if it is warm and the weather is nice. For going to work all year long nothing beats a scooter in cities.
WHAT, NO SUZIKI BURGMAN?!
What about the SH300? Cant do 300cc scooter review without that!
Exactly!
I own a cruisym 300 and its wind protection is fine. I'm 5'9.
You tall is not big.
I am 1.81 and protection is very good in the 2 scale of windshield!
9 cm is quite a big difference in a sitting position
Honda Forza 300 would compete for the winner of this class.
Agree also I.M.O should have included Suzuki Burgman 400
beverly best scoters
Forza has less hp than the xmax.
The Forza is better in a lot of ways, it's cheaper, better features...but it looks like shit
@@marjanpendarovski1428 uncomfortable used one in rhodes greece
The Vespa is what a Scoot should look like.
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Honda ADV 350 is king in this class of mid-size maxi scooters..
I have a Vespa 300GTS... It has plenty of power, it handles the freeway reasonably well but reacts badly to side winds, you really do have to hang on! I like the BV but the seat is terrible!!
Yamaha is the clear winner!
Thanks, guys. Great review. I have PCX 150 and a Beat 110 in Indonesia, but am considering an Xmax 300 in the U.S.A.. I'm curious if the Burgman 200 can handle the highway, also (because the 400 is over my price range.) Stick with Yamaha, right?
I think you have understated the Piaggio 350 power especially when you compared it to your winner the Yamaha Vmax.
PIAGGIO maximum power 26KW @ 8250 rpm. Maximum Torque 32 Nm @ 6250rpm
BMW Maximum Power 25kw @ 7500rpm Maximum Torque 35nm @ 6000rpm
YAMAHA Maximum power20.6 kW @ 7,250 rpm. Maximum Torque29.0 Nm @ 5,750 rpm
Sym Maximum Power 17.2 kW @ 7500rpm Maximum Torque 24nm @ 5500rpm
Vespa Maximum Power 15.8 kW @ RPM 7500 Maximum Torque 22.30 Nm @ 5500rpm
Where are you from guys? Nice content!!!
This was very good! :-)
Thks Guys.
You missed a great brand that is very popular and just as good as any of these. KYMCO..... The Kymco Downtown 350i could run circles round any of these. But you got the SYM (which is, as you said, new on the market) as opposed to what you said in the beginning that these are the most popular scooters?.... The mind boggles. The BMW is not popular, it's overpriced. It's just a bmw... The X-max at high speed develops an instability that should not be there. The Beverly is a great scooter for what it's designed to do. The Vespa... is a Vespa.... Fashion, but a good bike nonetheless. Why you tested a scooter on the motorway is in my opinion a pointless exercise. I still really like all your reviews.
You have ridden all of these? Very cool. That sounds like a fun day.
because the motorway would be fast to test high speed if you want to travel in the city fine...but from town to town on faster roads then you would need to include faster riding roads.
For sure a highway test is important.
Compared to Yamaha sym & kymco are both junk
@@Sheepleton You no idea what you've talking about.
Burgman 400 is best all around scooter. Better than any of the tested models on here.
I have a Tmax 530 and I'm very pleased with it.
can't find 'em in the U.S. !! I wish I could track one down!
manseated They do exist in the US. Check in Miami, FL. There’s a dozen for sale second hand.
You should have tested the Beverly 350, not the 300. It's the winner in every category. How do you guys run these tests?!?!
Bv 350 is on another level
Very good show
Thank You So Much
Xmax 👍🏻
Kymco xciting 400i is mama for this class👍
BMW C400 line is manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
Vespa hpe 300 💪💪
I own Xmax 2020 300 and NMax V2 2021 Yconnect and honestly I prefer NMax for city riding and Xmax for the highway now I did try BMW and it’s great but I would choose Xmax over it that’s why I got mine.
By the way Honda ADV 150 is great as well not sure why you didn’t include it on your review?
It’s my own opinion guys.
This was a mid sized scooter test
Lacking the best of them here guys: Kawasaki J300
Great power to weight ratio
Great looks
Best comfort
Neatly priced
Sociaal Jessie really ?!?!?? Not enough space under seat to put helmet . You can not stretch your legs .... Purely not the best option
Depends on the height of the driver :)
I fit my Full face helmet and groceries without problems.
@@sociaaljessie5431 that is funny , because height of the rider has nothing to do with helmet size ;-) Even Kawasaki dealer told me when viewing J300 that it will not fit full face helmet. I have try to put my helmet on and ...... dealer was right ;-)
Artur S video proof coming along :)
@@sociaaljessie5431 I do not need any proof my love. I have seen it , I had test ride and most definitely Kawasaki is worst then Honda Forza or Yamaha Xmax. But ... everyone can have their own opinion.
What about the Honda SH 300i? It’s the best by far.
d accord avec vous le Honda sh 300i est supérieur consommation 3.5l moteur performant plancher plat etc.... et tarif attractif
Hi guys. Too bad you didn't include the Kymco Downtown 350i in the test. I have one and I wouldn't change it with the BMW C400GT (for example). The price / quality ratio is much higher than BMW, which requires too much money just to show the BMW logo!
Downtown 350i has power (29 PS), just 195 kg weight, large storage space, perfectly comfortable saddle and a price ... extraordinary. In all tourist destinations, the workhorse for scooter rentals is ... Kymco; I'm wodering why?! I am a Romanian living in Germany (Stuttgart) and it is very popular here.
The Kymco wasn't available for test ride. In fact, I am not sure there's a proper Kymco importer in Romania.
Knocking the Vespa for a single disc? Aren’t all the scooters single disc, except maybe the BMW? Other reviews of the GTS say the braking and ride are fine, even on the 12” tires. I’m sure the BMW is very nice, but it’s a pretty expensive.
My 2019 Burgman 400 has dual disc on the front and single disc on rear. Gives excellent braking.
The vespa has atrocious brakes. I have one since years, so I know first hand.
Manufactured for BMW by Kymco of Taiwan which is a very experienced Scooter company. The Kymco "version" of this is an Xciting S 400i, so far as I can determine.
And where is the Honda Forza 300?
In short. You get what you pay for......... Nice video with honest opinions. I have an XMax250 so am biased towards the Yammy.
Ya, ripped off.
Beverly ✔️
haven't seen anything yet that makes me want to give up my 400 majesty.
It's interesting that in America the Xmax is a bargain compared to the vespa.
I like to have a scooter for in town. On the hiway it's my Harley. In town my Vespa does the trick. When your in the city you want small, quick, park anywhere, convenience. Honda metropolitan is great but hills can be a bear. If only they made it with a 150cc engine.
I have the SH150i, it's a great little scooter, reliable, light, economic, and can go 100 km/h two-up.
NO KYMCO XCITING 300I? WHY? THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST BRAND!!!!
I would love to get the c 400 GT but not available here in USA
It is available in the US, look at the BMW motorrad US website! Also a lot of the extra features are included in the base price on the US model.
Good work guys…….but must redo this test. Honda and the Burgmann are the great absentees
*Only thing missing from this 'Scooter Shoot-Out' is the same thing that's always missingfrom scooter reviews...GIRLS!*
We already know its hard to get a reliable one.
Nice job guys!
The guy kept saying his pick was the BMW, and the other one kept saying “Yeah, but...”, Always looking for a reason to disregard it. I mean, if he had already made up his mind, why include it in the comparison. “The BMW is the winner, but also the Yamaha...”. OK...
Considering the price there is only one winner.
The snarky attitude regarding the Vespa was unfortunate. It was evident even before you had ridden the scooters that you didn’t like the Vespa. I have a 2014 GTV and it is a fine scooter. It is very quick off the line and is quite easy to ride quickly through turns. I ride mine at 70mph on the freeway with no problem, but not for long distances.
My opinion is the vespa is the only scooter there the other ones are more like motorcycles
Vespa is a classic, it may be not perfect, but this is not why you buy one. In 2 years, the BMW or Yamaha will look obsolete, when new design comes out, but a Vespa not. It is and will be always the most beautiful. And by the way, at 120 it is not correct that it is unstable or wobbly or that it does not brake.
I had a Vespa 250 GTS and it was perfectly stable at speed. However it was wobbly at around 28-30 mph especially if you removed one hand from the bars.
@@fingerhorn4well, that is actually right, but for safety reasons I would in general not ride at higher speeds with just one hand, even if it is perfectly stable. At the end, what really matters is the feeling you have, no matter what bike you ride. Cheers and happy riding.