Do 'Cinematic' Pre-Rendered Trailers Actually Serve Any Purpose?

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 110

  • @RD-dt7us
    @RD-dt7us 4 місяці тому +50

    Less marketing smoke and mirrors, more real gameplay

    • @gs-nq6mw
      @gs-nq6mw 4 місяці тому +1

      cinematic traielr has its place on teasing the imagination of fans,as long its makes explicit the fact that its just a cinematic trailer

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 4 місяці тому +7

      @@gs-nq6mwThat was a thing of the past but not anymore with modern hardware of today. We don’t need marketing tricks just real gameplay.

    • @3ericw
      @3ericw 4 місяці тому

      It's important to have both. Cinematic trailers can do things gameplay can't. It's just important to also see gameplay. I can't image not having AC cinematics, the halo ones, GoW, etc...

    • @raskolnikov6443
      @raskolnikov6443 4 місяці тому

      @@gs-nq6mwagreed

  • @DontuseMyRealNameYTplz1425
    @DontuseMyRealNameYTplz1425 4 місяці тому +22

    My only issue with cinematic trailers is when they are shown before we know about the gameplay

  • @easterislehead
    @easterislehead 4 місяці тому +10

    As a kid in the 2000s, while game graphics were looking drastically better year after year, I used to get really excited watching pre-rendered trailers because I thought it looked like what the game might look like in a few years on a new system.

    • @giow1546
      @giow1546 4 місяці тому +1

      I always thought that as well!

  • @mitchgel
    @mitchgel 4 місяці тому +7

    Going off what John said at 3:50, my favorite use of CG in game trailers is the character trailers for Smash Bros. They set up the reveal really nicely and then follow it up with gameplay. It works because the characters have so much personality and people already have a connection to them, but that kind of thing is hard to replicate.

  • @Boss_Fight_Index_muki
    @Boss_Fight_Index_muki 4 місяці тому +19

    What I'm not okay with is pre-rendered footage _pretending to be actual gameplay_ (eg KillZone 2 PS3 trailer)
    If not taken seriously, i'm okay with cinematics.

    • @balloonb0y677
      @balloonb0y677 4 місяці тому

      I love looking at cinematics but I hate that it takes cinematics to evoke a targeted mood, if the game itself can’t reach the targeted mood than the trailer is all their to result in disappointment.

    • @Cade_The_Squirrel
      @Cade_The_Squirrel 3 місяці тому

      In fairness to that they based that on a realistic expectation of what could be done on a real PS3 and they basically matched it.

  • @miserablepile
    @miserablepile 4 місяці тому

    The shoutout for Riven was well deserved, good on them for making those trailers transparent, that is awesome!

  • @edgaras1103
    @edgaras1103 4 місяці тому +2

    expecting DF to appreciate CGI cinematic trailers is like expecting gamers to have reasonable and nuanced takes .

  • @wausjackbauer128
    @wausjackbauer128 4 місяці тому +1

    I think there's a big point that wasn't discussed here.
    CGI trailers for games back in the day WERE great because good CGI wasn't common place.
    In a world full of super hero movies and pretty photorealistic CGI, it's no longer special.
    But I remember the CGI videos for Warcraft 3, it totally blew my mind.
    Also the Killzone 2 thing - the issue was that they claimed it was gameplay footage but it was a scripted, offline video right

  • @hrafnafadhir
    @hrafnafadhir 4 місяці тому +1

    They serve to deliver a vision the developers hope to give us. And to stay relevant while biding time until they launch.

  • @EastyyBlogspot
    @EastyyBlogspot 4 місяці тому +4

    For me its like if they advertised a song just by showing a picture or a book based on sound effect....Yeah it can perhaps tell you a little bit but really it feels like a seperate thing

  • @digital0785
    @digital0785 4 місяці тому +9

    i have no problem with cinematic "hype trailers" but like you said it should be longer as a world building moment vs a 2 min fast cut that makes you feel like it's something else

    • @EastyyBlogspot
      @EastyyBlogspot 4 місяці тому +2

      Worse is when they show a cinematic trailer years before the game is released ....often when the development has barely begun lol

    • @Melsharpe95
      @Melsharpe95 4 місяці тому +1

      People forget that "hype" is short for "Hyperbole."
      Hyperbole - exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
      As Public Enemy so wonderfully stated back in 1988 - "Don't believe the hype."

  • @onometre
    @onometre 4 місяці тому +4

    for the most part I agree with the sentiment but the Halo 3 believe trailer will always have a special place in my heart

  • @Melsharpe95
    @Melsharpe95 4 місяці тому +3

    The original Dead Island trailer is absolutely fantastic.
    Everybody should experience it at least once.

  • @mikeveenman9105
    @mikeveenman9105 4 місяці тому +1

    The only gaming company that constantly has amazing cgi trailers is blizzard and well… we all know the state of blizzard games at the moment…

  • @murcielagoXO
    @murcielagoXO 3 місяці тому

    GOW 2018's reveal was a cutscene from the game that transitioned into gameplay. That's the best way to do it.

  • @jarde1989
    @jarde1989 4 місяці тому +9

    Cinematic Trailers should be federally charged for false advertisement
    Life in Prison without parole

  • @ckat609
    @ckat609 4 місяці тому +2

    The red alert pre-rendered intro/trailer REALLY made me want to play that game. Such a badass intro to a kickass game. That video overpromised, but I didn't care. It was such a good game.

  • @James-gj8rn
    @James-gj8rn 4 місяці тому +12

    Keep being harsh on "Cinematic" trailers, i don't care for them, gameplay is what counts with a game as we will be PLAYING something not watching something when we PLAY a game

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 4 місяці тому

      Why complain about a cinematic trailer for a game that isn't coming out for a year.or more?

    • @James-gj8rn
      @James-gj8rn 4 місяці тому +1

      @@gothpunkboy89 Because they are games not films

    • @sonodietrodithe4iltuoincub848
      @sonodietrodithe4iltuoincub848 4 місяці тому

      ​@@James-gj8rn never heard of detroit become human? Or games that actually are movies guess what games can be anything even movies if that's what the devs want to do

    • @James-gj8rn
      @James-gj8rn 4 місяці тому +2

      @@sonodietrodithe4iltuoincub848 I do agree that cinematic games are great, the Yakuza/Like A Dragon series is my favourite game series of all time but we need to see gameplay for a game so we know what it will play like

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 4 місяці тому +1

      @@James-gj8rn THE HECK YOU SAY! ALERT THE PRESS! GAMES ARE NOT MOVIES!
      So we ignoring cinematics can be used to build hype for a game. With follow up trailers showing game play?
      You know like Space Marine 2 did. Showed a cinematic trailer to build hype. Then as relase date got closer they started including game play into the trailers.

  • @RainD4
    @RainD4 4 місяці тому +1

    I still remember the excitement at Summer Game Fest when I first saw the Battle Aces trailer with its really high quality 2D animation and mech theme, only for it to be an RTS game which is a genre I really don't gel with 😅

  • @simongravel7407
    @simongravel7407 4 місяці тому

    Quick like that, I'd say that Star Wars - The Old Republic has the cinematic trailers I enjoyed the most. ('Betrayed' especially, the one from 2016)
    And it's true that the ones for Gears of War 1, 2, 3 were great.

  • @ShinySilvery
    @ShinySilvery 4 місяці тому

    I somewhat agree with the correspondant. The cinematic trailer when done right and represents the game in style, intent, character and content is an art form in an of itself for its intended viewing platform - The Movie Theatres !

  • @charmingpeasant9834
    @charmingpeasant9834 4 місяці тому

    Tomb Raider 2013 used its reveal CGI trailer as the game's intro cinematic.

    • @matiaseee8273
      @matiaseee8273 2 місяці тому

      The witcher games did the same

  • @thezx5795
    @thezx5795 4 місяці тому

    Nothing beats the AC 3 and Unity trailers.

  • @davyspark3435
    @davyspark3435 4 місяці тому +1

    Here is a counter example. There are some Hideo Kojima trailers are cinematic and all in engine.

  • @Ice_2192
    @Ice_2192 4 місяці тому

    I don’t mind the cgi trailers for simply enjoying them. What I won’t ever do is pre order a gam solely based on the cgi trailer while going blackout on anything else after that trailer. For example, I love the Old Republic trailers and I much prefer them to anything Disney has shelled out over the past years but I am not a fan of MMORPGs. CGI trailers don’t make me buy games but gameplay trailers (more specifically the ones closer to release date) and reviews do to an extent.

  • @RyneLanders
    @RyneLanders 4 місяці тому

    Battlefield 3's trailers were ALL gameplay, in-game footage. And they BLEW US AWAY. The hyoe was unreal, and the game more than delivered on exactly what was shown.

  • @gothpunkboy89
    @gothpunkboy89 4 місяці тому

    CGI for early relase to build hype is fine. As long as later down thw road they include game play.

  • @Vashkey
    @Vashkey 4 місяці тому +4

    I kinda get this guys point but on the other hand, if a game was marketed without cinematic trailers and just with gameplay, would anyone complain that there arent any cinematic trailers? Its cool to watch those scenes but if the game doesnt deliver an experience as good or better theres disappointment.
    Movies arent advertised with scenes that look cooler and better than the actual movie. I dont see why gamesnshould be the exception

  • @rd-um4sp
    @rd-um4sp 4 місяці тому

    short answer: no.
    long answer: NNNOOOOOOO!!!
    (for the thumbnail question)

  • @ChristopherYeeMon
    @ChristopherYeeMon 4 місяці тому

    The Diablo IV By Three They Come trailer is a modern day classic and is the biggest counter point to their stance. That trailer is awesome

  • @HYDRAdude
    @HYDRAdude 4 місяці тому +1

    CG trailers stopped being relevant once HD graphics became the norm, they just aren't special anymore.

  • @nsinghc2799
    @nsinghc2799 4 місяці тому

    Phantom Liberty DLC trailer in 4K/HDR - best thing since sliced bread!

  • @yohagain
    @yohagain 4 місяці тому +14

    Didn’t even watch it yet, but “cinematic” trailers should be abolished and any money (it’s a lot of money) spent on them should be used to improve the game itself.

    • @RAMPED
      @RAMPED 4 місяці тому +2

      Hard disagree. We just need to admonish the bad ones.
      Does anyone have a problem with the Overwatch hero trailers for example? What about live action trailers?

    • @raskolnikov6443
      @raskolnikov6443 4 місяці тому +1

      Nonsense

  • @TakisEnjoyer
    @TakisEnjoyer 4 місяці тому

    I like how the person with a question mentioned OG Dead Island trailer without even thinking about how different the game is from this trailer which is one of the main problems with cinematics. Often they absolutely don't reflect what the game is like, in this case it was a completely different mood

  • @lottji
    @lottji 4 місяці тому

    I really enjoyed the Phantom Liberty cgi trailer

  • @roborogue_
    @roborogue_ 4 місяці тому +1

    well i guess i’m weird because the bf2042 trailer is my favourite ever

  • @TheIrishGamerGuy
    @TheIrishGamerGuy 4 місяці тому

    CG trailers were great when trailers didn't have parity with the game graphics (PS2/early PS3 era) that were possible so you never felt misled, you knew it was about communicating the vibe, the themes and the atmosphere. The issue now though is trailers that are CG now are often used in a way that is misleading.

  • @BasssInYourFace
    @BasssInYourFace 4 місяці тому

    "Cinematic" trailers, literally worthless, but if you combine them with some gameplay wisely , then, you can come up with something. Dead Island and Dying Light trailers were something else, man and the games also stood up to the hype, especially the Dying Light one, you can find moments similar to the ones in the trailer in the game itself, that was truly a piece of art! Shout-out to Techland, for making the best game in the last decade! and also , with proverbial tears in my eyes, "RIP"!

  • @anthonyguerrero4612
    @anthonyguerrero4612 4 місяці тому

    I don't care about cinematics. I want to see the actual product on display which is gameplay.

  • @trapez77
    @trapez77 4 місяці тому

    I like prerendered cinematics in the game but not for the trailers

  • @TakisEnjoyer
    @TakisEnjoyer 4 місяці тому

    Cinematics are a cool thing when they're made to attract more industry people to your project instead of just posting (basically leaking) game description yourself years before the announcement. Thats a really smart move. Otherwise it's like meh, to me it speaks that you either not confident enough that your gameplay can attract certain audience or you have nothing to show and the game will probably look nothing like what you're showing.
    I feel like launch trailer of Breath of the Wild did a really good thing by combining cutscenes with gameplay elements which made trailer look both cinematic while showcasing actual gameplay elements.

  • @morganmcgill3169
    @morganmcgill3169 4 місяці тому

    They said that Crackdowns 3 didn't overpromise... 🤔

  • @Napoleonic_S
    @Napoleonic_S 4 місяці тому

    The best game cgi trailers were from the star wars old republic mmo.

  • @Alaneeeeee
    @Alaneeeeee 4 місяці тому

    I think it really depends on the game / DLC and honestly, the publisher.
    CG trailer for Assassin's Creed? I sleep.
    CG trailer for Smash Bros? That's some real shit.

  • @mikeveenman9105
    @mikeveenman9105 4 місяці тому

    What’s also annoying is when we don’t know if something is cgi or not. Like the new fable trailers.

  • @Volvagia1927
    @Volvagia1927 4 місяці тому

    Not exactly the same thing (because it used an actual game cutscene instead of something "original"), but you can't tell me the Infinite Wealth beach trailer wasn't eye-catching.

  • @Kojiros7th
    @Kojiros7th 4 місяці тому

    Ive never has this issue the cinematic trailers. Not hard to understand that they exist to simply portray a concept and do not represent gameplay. Never understood the hate they receive

  • @adroharv5140
    @adroharv5140 4 місяці тому +1

    on a slightly different but somewhat relating subject , I'm fed up with the cinematic guff of modern games especially Sony ones and it seems people are also getting similarly bored

  • @mintberrycrunch6657
    @mintberrycrunch6657 4 місяці тому

    the idea of artistic marketing makes me throw up... it's just marketing

  • @HeadRusch1
    @HeadRusch1 4 місяці тому

    Cinematic Trailers are what I'd call the modern version of the "BullShot".....eg: Bullsh*t Screen Shots or Bullsh*t Box Art for those of us who have begun to grow more hair out our ears and nostrils than our skulls. Great, you have some incredible animators and artists, but what am I paying $60 to play? Rockstar is one of the few companies where, when I see their trailers, I can reasonably expect to see those same assets and animations and lighting models in the actual game. But when I see some 5 minute CGI movie looking like Lord of the Rings or something, and zero actual game, it's time to call Bullshot.

  • @JorisJoestar
    @JorisJoestar 4 місяці тому

    Cinematic trailers wouldn't be bad if they weren't the first thing we see from a game

  • @clairearan505
    @clairearan505 4 місяці тому

    I think cinematics have their place, in trailers and marketing, in cutscenes in games, but I'm generally disappointed when games are revealed in CG rather than realtime visuals.

  • @K1181-r4o
    @K1181-r4o 4 місяці тому +1

    They’re simply a waste of money and false advertising

  • @BlueKudu-33
    @BlueKudu-33 4 місяці тому

    Nothing loses my attention faster than pre-rendered trailers in the big shows/directs 😒. If you’re not brave enough to show ACTUAL GAMEPLAY, then at the very least show true in-engine cutscenes!

  • @TapMyButtons
    @TapMyButtons 4 місяці тому

    Personally I don't think they should exist anymore and every trailer should be made in the game engine. Especially in today's age of long development cycles.

  • @und1sturbed1
    @und1sturbed1 4 місяці тому

    Nope, haven't finished video. Nope . If it's not real then the criticism can all go away with a good performing game

  • @SurrealLeaf
    @SurrealLeaf 4 місяці тому

    Cinematic trailers are mostly disappointing these days because theres so much of it because "it sells". Before social media and YT blew up the CGI was for once a summer thing from e3 and for game intros. Now they are "every game needs it" and new one comes every week to YT.
    Look at how many "2D CARD BATTLER" or Mobile games had huge CGI trailers this summer "not e3". Like whats the point??

  • @dr.sivavignesh664
    @dr.sivavignesh664 4 місяці тому +24

    Cinematic trailers for games are a waste of resources, time and money. It serves no purpose whatsoever!

    • @EmeraldChickn
      @EmeraldChickn 4 місяці тому +6

      Not really, most developers have a seperating marketing fund. It going to a cool trailer is what I prefer compared to it being used on other way's of marketing.

    • @dr.sivavignesh664
      @dr.sivavignesh664 4 місяці тому +1

      @@EmeraldChickn gameplay trailers should be used for marketing. It's not like cinematic trailers don't cost anything. With current state of how games release that effort might as well be put on optimising the game and using it finish it on release. When it comes to gaming nobody looks at a cinematic trailer and decides to buy a game. The cinematic trailer for mobile games are rampant do you really think they represent the gameplay ? The only thing it does is fool people into thinking the game might be cool.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 4 місяці тому

      ​@@dr.sivavignesh664cry

    • @joshuatealeaves
      @joshuatealeaves 4 місяці тому +2

      @@dr.sivavignesh664The people optimizing the game and the people making the cinematic trailer are not one in the same. Your argument doesn’t make sense dude.
      You’re the homie I’m not trying to fight you just pointing that out 🙏🏻

    • @dr.sivavignesh664
      @dr.sivavignesh664 4 місяці тому +2

      @@joshuatealeaves okay let me put that right. That marketing fund to make cg trailer could go into making something else. They could implement something better in game. Or give us a demo. Where are the demos these days? They could put that fund into play testing and bug fixing. They just have to convert the resource to something else to be used elsewhere mate. If you are still going to defend cg trailers tell me one reason why it's good. Spending like this for marketing ain't good when other parts are lacking. What I'm saying is a cinematic trailer might be fine if it's a teaser for a reputed franchise and they don't have the gameplay ready yet. Doing all these cinematic trailers and saying the game performed poorly is hypocrisy. And other than children I don't know who decides on buying a game by looking at a cinematic trailer.

  • @chillnspace777
    @chillnspace777 4 місяці тому +2

    Tired of these types of trailers. Just show us the game. If u can't, dont announce it. I get why they do it, but damn it's annoying and a waste of time to all hell. The Geoff's events ring a bell. Half those are CGi trailers, like what 😂

  • @GamingRobioto
    @GamingRobioto 4 місяці тому

    I just switch off when the trailer is purely cinematic. They are pointless.
    The Dead Island trailer was great, but it was nothing like the game ended up, which sums up how pointless cinematic trailers are.

  • @manchumuq
    @manchumuq 4 місяці тому

    I do not get cinematic trailer of a game, like at all, if a game has the overwhelmingly good visual potential, you better off just render it in engine like God of War, otherwise I don't see a single point of a cinematic trailer, it just doesn't make sense for a game.

  • @sebastianpalacios2679
    @sebastianpalacios2679 4 місяці тому

    And by the way the Dead Island Trailer is the greatest trailer of all time in opinion. However the game has barely anything to do with the trailer and the story is mediocre at best. I'm still waiting for a game that the trailer wanted me to believe it was.

  • @bas1176
    @bas1176 4 місяці тому

    Not one bit.

  • @danielditlev
    @danielditlev 4 місяці тому +2

    Is DF too harsh.. Tbh lately I feel yes. I find myself skipping videos due to the expectation that it will be a pool of negativity.

  • @anthonyrizzo9043
    @anthonyrizzo9043 4 місяці тому +3

    Cinematic trailers are terrible. Tells you nothing about the game.

  • @novinovic298
    @novinovic298 4 місяці тому

    NO

  • @slowmercy69
    @slowmercy69 4 місяці тому

    #JustSaying 💅

  • @xxsemb
    @xxsemb 4 місяці тому

    none, I find them absolutely worthless - show gameplay or dont bother.

  • @MarquisDeSang
    @MarquisDeSang 4 місяці тому

    No they don't, I don't watch them, ever.

  • @shaolin95
    @shaolin95 4 місяці тому

    I HATE prerendered stuff...do it all real time or don't do it

  • @hatredforhumanity
    @hatredforhumanity 4 місяці тому

    Who care people are getting way to soft and bitch about anything.

  • @Aki_Lesbrinco
    @Aki_Lesbrinco 4 місяці тому

    Nope, they're an uninteresting waste of time.

  • @KazeEternal
    @KazeEternal 4 місяці тому

    Have to agree with Kurtz.
    This right here is why I wanted Mass Effect 2, went back and played Mass Effect and played from start to finish
    ua-cam.com/video/PHCA8tK117c/v-deo.html
    You don't have to be lore invested, some times these trailers are what get you invested in the lore and the world. Cinematic trailers set the stage for the world and lore they are asking you to invest in. Not the other way around where you're already invested and to simply get you hyped. Which it can, See Halo 3, Mass Effect 3, and more. They can continue on today.
    I think though more games are inclined to use real time cinematics and replacing the old pre-renders, because they are just as easy to get the point across if cut right. See Mass Effect 3 or the more recent god of war titles. Gears E-Day has people going back and playing the older games, both new and old to the franchise. That has ZERO game play. I also remember the Diablo 4, by 3 trailer. Quite clearly. Maybe you guys just missed it.
    Not that all Cinematic pre-rendered trailers are good for a game. See Concord. Got everyone hyped for a single player Guardians of the Galaxy like game and we came back with overwatch with bad character designs instead.
    I'd appreciate more attention to pre-rendered, even with games like Horizon Forbidden West, which had a nice trailer that got me hyped. It took Horizon Zero Dawns Prerendered story trailer and the in game demo of game play that sold me on the title so hard that I bought the CE for the original game.

  • @gulraizkhan3881
    @gulraizkhan3881 4 місяці тому

    Hi Everyone !

  • @NoverianSnowCone
    @NoverianSnowCone 4 місяці тому

    DF, I love you guys, but I'm not watching this video. Reason, The Witcher 2 opening CGI trailer.
    *Drops mic* - leaves room
    *Comes back because I'm not disrespectful and tidies up after myself*

  • @kva7922046
    @kva7922046 4 місяці тому

    First! King me!