DEBUNKING Br.MARIO Joseph teachings on PROSPERITY Gospel ( Joseph Dinesh )

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  • @nathaliamartis8004
    @nathaliamartis8004 8 місяців тому +7

    It is true reciting and repeating and memorizing the Words of God are so powerful, it works miracles and wonders in our lives. Because it is Word of God and it has power. Hebrews chapter 4 verse 12...it is double edged Sword. The devil is and evil spirits are terrified for the Word of God. Thanks be to God for Mario Joseph for teaching us to repeat the Word of God, memorize it and utter it loudly. I have experienced the Power of Word of God.
    We cannot manipulate God true, then what about Rosary? We repeat Hail Mary fifty times, is it manipulating?
    The devil came to tempt Jesus in the desert with the Word of God, Jesus defeated devil by using Word of God. We all know, when we are in sin, using Word of God doesn't help. We all know that, . Mario Joseph also preaches the importance of repentance.
    Just because he used the word PROSPERITY GOSPEL, he just doesn't stop there. He preaches about the importance of repentance. Prosperity GOSPEL preachers do not speak about repentance.
    Please do not crush Mario Joseph by misinterpreting his intention and motive of quoting 'prosperity gospel.
    Thank you Mario

  • @joelbraganza3819
    @joelbraganza3819 7 місяців тому +3

    I'm pretty sure Br. Mario isn't preaching prosperity gospel here when he says that our needs and necessities are met when reciting the word of God. The word of God has the power to draw us closer to God and purify our hearts and mind, but also prepares us to receive the gifts(health, necessary financial or spiritual blessings) that God has in his will for us.
    Brother Mario in his recent videos has also emphasized on repentance and confession too. He has pointed out that many times our sins may hinder us from receiving the necessary blessings God wants us to give.
    Also he is doing so much good work for people who are in need and problems.
    He has even pointed out the bible verses backing his statements he made during those sermons and videos.
    So theologically and practically he is very much right in the things he is saying there.
    God does looks after his people in need and doesn't necessarily want everyone to suffer all the time. Suffering has it's place in God's will for us according to his plans and for our spiritual purification/ sanctification.
    Reciting bible verse with the intent of meeting our needs is not wrong.
    I request you to have a conversation/ discussion with Brother Mario about this topic and make it clear for everyone concerned with this topic so everyone gets to see the truth.
    Hope I'm not offending you in any way. Wishing you well always and May God bless you 🙏🏻

  • @FrJobyJosephsdb
    @FrJobyJosephsdb 9 місяців тому +5

    Yes... well corrected and presented JD. Correcting another in faith matters is not criticism, especially if we bent God's word to suit our purpose and not His Holy Will

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +1

      Dear Rev Fr Joby, Thank you so much for your affirmation and encouragement! God Bless

  • @sandhyame4395
    @sandhyame4395 3 місяці тому +1

    Even king David used to keep reminding God continually in His Psalms to Bless Him !!!!

  • @jkcool910
    @jkcool910 8 місяців тому +16

    So sorry to hear this Brother. You need to do your homework and present better things. Pointing finger at Br. Mario by just picking up on few verses from his speech is what people from other christian denominations do to tarnish the reputation of catholic preachers. They are already doing it to other Catholic spiritual preachers in Kerala and so sorry to see that you have also joined that group. Br. Mario may have quoted few promises from the Bible to strengthen the faith of the miserable people who are going through financial troubles. There is nothing wrong in any of that as long as the focus is not purely on those things (Almost all of the catholic preachers do that one way or the other). You need to look at his preaching as a whole, rather than picking up a small part. Does he preach repentance, does he preach eternal life, forgiveness of sins and so many other things which is what the Catholic faith is about. Above all, he is a great life example, a person who was born and brought up as a muslim, who will put self-righteous people like you and me to shame.
    You also need to study about this person a bit more before you start pointing finger at him. During Covid, when a lot of the Christian community shut themselves in their houses, he went door-to-door distributing medicines to the poor and needy and later extended it by building houses for others. He is somebody who has walked the talk. He is somebody who is facing constant threats to his life because of his change of faith. It is a great disservice to Catholicism as a whole and to all the Catholic preachers themselves when you start pointing fingers at them. You ought to do better Brother!

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +5

      Why I should I study more about the person If I have to call out his false teachings ? What is the Connection ?

    • @vtslglen
      @vtslglen 8 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia Disagreements are unavoidable, but they don't have to lead to division or broken relationships within the body of Christ. Our Father has kindly given us some principles to take into account as we engage with those we strongly disagree with.

    • @jkcool910
      @jkcool910 8 місяців тому +9

      You have every right to voice your opinions. However, the person you are talking about here is a Catholic preacher. He was a preacher at Divine Retreat Center and is probably still staying in those premises. Did Divine Retreat Center condemn his preaching? You have done interviews with Glen and others from Divine. Did they agree with you? What was the due diligence and research that you did before labelling Br. Mario as a prosperity gospel preacher. Few videos here and there? Did any Catholic Bishop or any church authorities condemn him. You need to know the person and his teachings a lot more before you condemn him. Don’t you think that judging whether the preaching of a Catholic preacher as heresy or not falls more into the domain of the church rather than that of a layperson. You are using a social media UA-cam channel to target a person and in this case the victim is a Catholic preacher.
      Since you position yourself as a Catholic UA-cam channel, you need to apply a lot more discretion and discernment before you put out content targeting Catholic preachers. A lot of people, esp. non-believers who don’t know anything about Church or Catholicism will take you at face value and will label the entire set of Catholic preachers as fraudulent. That is a great harm that you are doing to the Catholic community and to the missionary movement as a whole. I know you have JY roots. You should’ve talked with some seniors in JY before you posted this video. You have put some good videos out there Brother and have done a lot of good work for Catholic Church as a whole. However, I can’t agree with you and this video where you have targeted Br. Mario. Sure, Br. Mario may have his faults, but the way you have targeted him is giving more support for detractors who are trying to label the entire set of preachers as fraudulent. Think about the people who just saw your cover photo for this video and did not click it. They see a Catholic preacher attached with money. That is surely in bad taste.
      You have a great responsibility at your hands and I pray that you use it with a lot of responsibility and discretion and discernment.

    • @vtslglen
      @vtslglen 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndiathere are also a lot of other teachings. Did you watch those?

    • @samsonabrahamraju6415
      @samsonabrahamraju6415 8 місяців тому

      True ❤️ 👍

  • @preethikababu2989
    @preethikababu2989 8 місяців тому +8

    In a way aren’t you doing the same??? You are preaching your understanding and enforcing your beliefs by creating such video and using this to even benefit you financially.
    The Bible has been interpreted in many ways by many , some interpretations are from the Holy Spirit, some from people’s experience and some from ignorance. But in case when a person shares their experience with God it brings other people also closer to God, increases their faith, isn’t this depicted all over the Bible, When God worked through Miracles and signs to increased the faith of His people? Or was that a business tactic of God too?? Please focus on bringing people closer to God, which is your true calling. Expose people who misuse God for getting personal gains, not those who spread the word of God from their understanding and experience. Please don’t make videos purely targeted at other preachers, it is their belief or experience or calling to do what they do, yes I agree few misuse their gifts but that doesn’t mean you pick on them and crucify the Lord over and over again. I am ready to debunk your teachings too … and someone can debunk mine too… that can go on and on…😊 so choose to have conversations with preachers and that will help us all grow spiritually. God bless!

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +2

      Hey Preetika, Bible can’t be Interpreted in 100 ways by 100 different people - Then why do we need the Catholic Church ?
      Any Catholic preacher has an obligation to teach in line with the Catholic Faith !
      I would really appreciate if u can debunk anything that I have said in the video in context of Catholic Teaching !

    • @preethikababu2989
      @preethikababu2989 8 місяців тому +2

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia so if that is the case shouldn’t all sermons of every mass be coordinated as per the one understanding of the Bible… Priests preach through the Holy Spirit and so do other preachers who follow the mission they are chosen for….. Have you studied in detail about the Catholic Church? Theology? That takes like years to understand! or does a person who has true knowledge about the Catholic Church and has studied it from the correct source verify the content you post?? How can you claim to know every teaching of the Catholic Church or the Bible for that matter!! Do you know how many books have been published about the various understanding of the Bible as a whole?? And have you read the Bible completely verifying the understanding as taught by the Catholic Church?? Or at the very least the read the whole Bible more than once in your lifetime??
      I am not worthy of questioning you, as I myself have no complete knowledge about all the above. My point is half knowledge is dangerous. You are talking about people who have dedicated their lives to Christ, the church and its teaching. I strongly believe in the Word of God and it has the power to change our lives around, by believing in Christ. God has given us free will, He wants us to chose Him , find His purpose for our lives with our own understanding.
      If you have to continue debunking every word, it will never stop. I am just asking you not to post such content for without knowing or understanding about the power of the Word of God. You can also take the positive approach. And spread the Word of God in the right way!!

    • @vtslglen
      @vtslglen 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia True. Bible can be interpreted in 100 ways but the word of god applies to different people in different situations.

    • @samsonabrahamraju6415
      @samsonabrahamraju6415 8 місяців тому

      True

  • @insidevoice-inspiringvideo630
    @insidevoice-inspiringvideo630 8 місяців тому +3

    Instead of making a video and rebutting it publicly and giving chance to other people a way out, Is he very far from you? You must be having his no? A brotherly correction would be better charitable than promote it in public. Whatever may be it's not good for our catholic Church, why can't the authority ban him if his preaching against catholic church? Think it over , there many issues can be discussed. I'm not the supporter of prosperity Gospel but Mario Joseph is catholic and if his preaching accepted by the authority of catholic church than its upto the head of the magisterium to decide whether to allow him or not. By doing such videos one is harming the catholic Church. So it's better Mario Joseph is advised and Exhorted.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      Whats wrong with Publicly rebutting ? His videos in YOutbe are public right ? And the Laity is as much part of the Church as the Clergy ! I am sure this video will be sent to the Catholic Bishop of his diocese !

  • @peaceandjoy559
    @peaceandjoy559 8 місяців тому

    I appreciate your ministry Br DJ. I too remarked that he is talking properity gospel recently. But I would not point it out in the open media, as do so many of our Protestant brothers. Rather pray for him, and contact him if possible to have a talk. God bless.

  • @truthspeaker1558
    @truthspeaker1558 9 місяців тому +1

    The best prayer is Thy will be done and not my will be done.

    • @nathaliarodrigues7408
      @nathaliarodrigues7408 8 місяців тому

      What is will?? His will is following his instructions

    • @jacksoncastelino04
      @jacksoncastelino04 8 місяців тому

      ​@@nathaliarodrigues7408Then take up your cross and Follow Lord Jesus

  • @pearlsebastian157
    @pearlsebastian157 8 місяців тому +3

    Firstly who gives anyone the right to judge ? Jesus himself wl judge.

  • @user-ol1wr2pc5n
    @user-ol1wr2pc5n 8 місяців тому +1

    Great 👍👍👍

  • @samsonabrahamraju6415
    @samsonabrahamraju6415 8 місяців тому +5

    100 % disagreed to Song on fire channel. Please don't spread false interpretations based on your own understanding

  • @monicajames1724
    @monicajames1724 9 місяців тому +1

    Very true

  • @nelsonyatra
    @nelsonyatra 3 дні тому

    He is helping the poor with food and also building homes for the poorest of the poor unlike our churches shame on you can see jealously flowing

  • @nelsonyatra
    @nelsonyatra 3 дні тому

    pls put mario's full video

  • @kiranmi
    @kiranmi 9 місяців тому +4

    Awesome video, JD!
    It's really sad that many Catholics have fallen into the trap of prosperity-false-gospel.
    I'm glad you have had the guts to speak out on this topic.
    To the commentators asking what right JD has to speak about this : The same right that you have in criticising JD in the comments!

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank Kiran !! Someone had to start speaking on this of preaching and preachers ! Just the first step

    • @insearchof27
      @insearchof27 7 місяців тому

      JD ❤❤❤❤

    • @johnchacko1425
      @johnchacko1425 6 місяців тому

      I know people who went to catholic school in America kindergarten to twelfth grade baptism ,communion, confirmation sacraments and they leave the catholic church because of a protestent 'friend'

  • @merlecarvalho5606
    @merlecarvalho5606 7 місяців тому

    Brother mario is a child of God he is bringing light to the bible in ones life if u know so much of the bible starr preaching ...

  • @johnmichael8197
    @johnmichael8197 8 місяців тому +2

    Bro Dinesh,
    Spend your time doing something constructive. You are simply spending time in criticizing others who are giving understanding and revelation knowledge from the word of God.
    You are filling yourself with poison and poisoning others as well.
    Give and it shall be given unto you good measure.... luke 6:28
    Bro. Please spread love because God is love.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +1

      I think the revelation is false and in love I am calling it out

    • @user-qg1kv8hm3v
      @user-qg1kv8hm3v 8 місяців тому

      Don't use the word think JD .
      Its a fact that some of his teachings are erroneous .
      And you John Michael .
      The Church prescribes for catholics the 7 Spiritual works of Mercy .
      Among that are
      TO COUNSEL THE DOUBTFUL AND INSTRUCT THE IGNORANT .
      Thats what JD is doing. .
      The Church Father's also did that to our Catholic Christian Brothers when they spread and taught heresy

  • @infantkishore3230
    @infantkishore3230 2 місяці тому

    Its not preaching, its faith on gods word and his promises.
    Its Faith it means 100 guarantee in what is unseen.

  • @roymadathinakam6733
    @roymadathinakam6733 9 місяців тому +5

    👉👉ABSOLUTELY TRUE OBSERVATION, BRO. . BIBLE IS NOT GIVEN FOR FINANCIAL PROSPERITY.. IF SUCH WAS THE CASE, JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN IN A MANGER .. 👈👈

    • @johnmichael8197
      @johnmichael8197 8 місяців тому +1

      Feed your mind with right knowledge of the Word of God before firing any rubbish.

    • @roymadathinakam6733
      @roymadathinakam6733 8 місяців тому +1

      @@johnmichael8197 "RUBBISH" IS FED IN YOUR MIND.. WORD OF GOD IS GIVEN TO ALL NOT TO INTERPRET IT ACCORDING TO ONE'S TASTE.. " JESUS TELLS "" TAKE UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW ME"".

  • @jacksoncastelino04
    @jacksoncastelino04 9 місяців тому +3

    Good to See You JD , Defending Holy Catholic Faith from Those who Teach Prosperity Gospel in The name of Catholic Religion

  • @infantkishore3230
    @infantkishore3230 2 місяці тому

    Please please dont judge the faith. They leading us in the faith. Faith is we belive the things in unseen.

  • @jobinsavier7441
    @jobinsavier7441 7 місяців тому

    At least you criticised him. Respect to you for criticising a hypocrite

  • @sunragraghu7934
    @sunragraghu7934 9 місяців тому +2

    Hi Dinesh. Well compiled. . God bless. Raghu

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      Thank Raghu !! How did you come across the Video ?

    • @sunragraghu7934
      @sunragraghu7934 8 місяців тому

      Someone sent it to me with a question and some clarifications. I had to clear their doubts .

  • @rachel679
    @rachel679 9 місяців тому +2

    Good one JD. Much needed for Indian catholics. I guess if people on the comment section have a problem with it, they should probably try to refute him theologically instead of asking him to shut up.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Rachel ! What has been your experience with the Prosperity Gospel

    • @helenabara2092
      @helenabara2092 8 місяців тому

      Thankyou for exposing such people. I am catholic and really
      impressed by his teaching..
      God bless you.

  • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
    @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 9 місяців тому +2

    Is Song on Fire you tube channel monitised or non monitsed?
    If Monitised, Catholicism Mongering/Christ Mongering through the channel falls under Prosperity Gospel or not

    • @randacraig8345
      @randacraig8345 8 місяців тому

      Interesting question! Why don't you try answering this @Joseph Dinesh ?

  • @pearlsebastian157
    @pearlsebastian157 8 місяців тому

    1:22 This is the only way to drive away the devil

  • @pushpavenipamu6902
    @pushpavenipamu6902 5 місяців тому

    We are not here to find fault with others.think positive .Jesus did not ask us to find fault with others.Jesus said ,your faith has healed you. First you correct yourself.

  • @gedat5538
    @gedat5538 9 місяців тому +2

    Mario, is unwittingly perhaps, is promoting a kind of prosperity gospel (a false Gospel). Bible verses should not be used as magic ways to receive material advantages. Let him keep in mind: '1 Cor 15:19 "If our hope in Christ has been for this life only. we are of all people the most pitiable".

  • @germdios
    @germdios 8 місяців тому

    Moderate prosperity is nothing wrong. God bless usn us spiritual and financial and physical andnetcnercn

  • @ehrlsondesousa3257
    @ehrlsondesousa3257 8 місяців тому +1

    Beautifully made video

  • @I_Am_Alizeh
    @I_Am_Alizeh 9 місяців тому +1

    Someone, please mention Mario Joseph.

  • @MrGladdon
    @MrGladdon 8 місяців тому +3

    He is godman,let god do his judgement, we are not much aged to evaluate bro. Please delete this video. As holy spirit won't criticise others

  • @georgethomasn1504
    @georgethomasn1504 9 місяців тому +4

    You are right JD bro... God's promises are specific to certain person and purpose and cannot be applied to all, as the Protestants preach.
    But we cannot fully deny his preaching, as we didn't hear the full message.Many of our preachers now are influenced by Protestant preaching and prosperity gospel.
    There should be awareness program about this by church fathers... 🙏

  • @rebeccawari3242
    @rebeccawari3242 8 місяців тому

    JD should also correct regarding giving importance to saints instead of giving importance to Jesus, Sometimes, sermons are preached on the character of a particular Saint, not relating anything to Jesus, it's implications of Jesus is totally left out, even praying to Saint without praying to Jesus.. I find such practice of faith is so vague and only spiritual dryness. Even if we speak about Saint, we must be able to relate with Jesus .That's why images and flowers have become important inside the Catholic Church rather than faith in Jesus. The practice of bowing down to the images and giving flowers, what do you say about this?

  • @aneeshjose8225
    @aneeshjose8225 9 місяців тому +2

    Financial improvement are also required in life, Lord don't call anyone to poverty, so let someone wants to improve financially allow them to improve, just to see that finance and work is never a priority over God.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      Can you explain what Financial Improvement look like and what is poverty according to you ?

  • @emeliavictor2385
    @emeliavictor2385 8 місяців тому

    We will manipulate God and HE will get manipulated? 🤨🤔

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +1

      We can think " We can " and live in false hope like these preachers are preaching

  • @user-kg2rk3wi1u
    @user-kg2rk3wi1u 8 місяців тому +2

    This Man talks make me depressed... Br Mario spiritual is Quested here.... Please half knowledge is dangerous... Invite Jesus once You receive the Holyspirit do wat Brother says... It will be helpful... Jesus is a giver not br Mario... Jesus makes Miracle so please stop spreading wrong News experiences and then speak... Jealous man You need a Good confession...

  • @pearlsebastian157
    @pearlsebastian157 8 місяців тому +1

    0:09 all Frs are aaking to recite Bible verses

  • @Glg1667
    @Glg1667 8 місяців тому +2

    Joseph Dinesh your knowledge about the Bible and catholics or Christianity is too shallow.
    Please do more homework. Meditate. You are not eligible to preach anything to anybody yet.

  • @RaquetinhaFernandes
    @RaquetinhaFernandes 4 місяці тому

    I understand what you mean Bro. but "GOD WORD IS GOD HIMSELF." GOD WORD IS NOT MANTRA,TO CRITICISE, u get only if u recite by faith and if God will. See in Spiritual Realm, Let every tongue profess, "JESUS IS THE LORD",IN LIFE AND DEATH,:AMEN!!!!

  • @peterleo2685
    @peterleo2685 8 місяців тому +1

    Usa ,uk. Australia no more. Christian pla. Go check. Where catholic only now living. Dont take shortcut put full vidio

  • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
    @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 9 місяців тому +1

    Blessings are ONLY Spiritual and not matteial?

  • @kerobimtoppo1402
    @kerobimtoppo1402 9 місяців тому +5

    Bro please reconsider your narrative. Read bible properly yourself after that reach any conclusion.

  • @JP-ql4iz
    @JP-ql4iz 8 місяців тому +2

    Really sad that you have all the time in the world to bad mouth people. Just getting a small portion of the talk and bad mouthing someone.. have you attended the full retreat? Low views must be the reason.. God bless you bro and show you your faults.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      Did you watch the whole Video ? Do you think I am missing something ? Can you let me know if any ?

    • @JP-ql4iz
      @JP-ql4iz 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia sorry to say but the bible clearly says that if you have something against your brother, correct him in private first. Mt 18:15-20.. where there is no charity, there is no God. This man is under the authority of the clergy. Have you spoken to him? Have you written to his Bishop? You make it a point to air out what you perceive are the wrongs of people out in the open for the whole world to watch? How would you feel if God would air out your sins on a public forum for everyone to see? I do not claim to know your heart.. but the fruits of your work do not build, they tear down. I would really request you to first look deep down in your own soul and see the logs in your own eyes before you see the specks in everyone's eyes... seeing the specks in everyone's eyes have been the theme of your ministry. (PS: I am in no way discouraging you to not preach the gospel, all I'm saying is your efforts are proving to be counter intuitive because you seem to be bent on catching out peoples mistakes and proving yourself to be in the right. There is no charity)

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      Does Mathew 18 talk about SIN or Public preaching ?

    • @JP-ql4iz
      @JP-ql4iz 8 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia well thanks for making your Pharisee attitude very clear. I just hope one day you realise the damage you are doing to yourself and the faithful. God bless.

    • @cherryblossom5408
      @cherryblossom5408 6 місяців тому

      ​@@SongonFirecatholicIndiaBrother don't wait for others to show you what is 'missing, ' in your analysis. Watch the entire video yourself as you have access to it unlike others. It would be 'correct' and required of you to put out the entire video.

  • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
    @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 9 місяців тому

    Pope and Cardinals living in Vatican Palace, Royal Church buildings etc etc living prosperity Gospel or ?

    • @Militantcatholic
      @Militantcatholic 8 місяців тому +2

      Your understanding of the prosperity gospel is totally wrong. It only says that people who pray to God will always be rewarded with riches and worldly satisfaction. It has nothing to do with magnificent churches and buildings of the Catholic Church. Best to do some research before talking about stuff.

    • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
      @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Militantcatholic
      I reserve my right to be silent...
      However, if you think I I don't know what prosperity Gospel is, you are mistaken br...

    • @Militantcatholic
      @Militantcatholic 8 місяців тому +2

      @@godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 your original comment proves otherwise….so yeah best to remain silent

    • @jacksoncastelino04
      @jacksoncastelino04 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@godforgivesusinchristcruci5690better you keep quiet. Before it causes problem to you.

  • @drmercyj
    @drmercyj 8 місяців тому +3

    I am truly saddened by this video
    Not because the content is wrongful- you are right in your arguments
    I fully backed your first video but seeing the trajectory of your videos it seems you got a bit too carried away with the first video. even renamed that from "Prosperity gospel preacher" to "Br Johnson" and then you went one notch higher n made a video of Br Mario with a rather scandalous cover- an arrow pointing towards him saying "More money" and the words "Red handed" as if he was caught asking for money in secret...in doing so you have placed more blame n caused scandal for your fellow brother. Its okay to call out false teaching but when you take names you need to be very careful and 100%certain that the accusations you make hold up to what the person truly believes, because you are tarnishing someone's image n possibly leaving Catholics in confusion online (much like Dr Taylor Marshall who just rants about the Pope and causes more harm than good)
    You quoted a portion of Br Mario's talk without even leaving the source talk in the description box so that others could see the whole video for context, n you dint respond to those who asked you for the source
    As far as Br Johnson was concerned there were many many wrong things in his teachings, even apart from prosperity gospel, his entire ministry has a lot of non Catholic content ... n he has been banned from many dioceses including my own, so that was still acceptable
    But Br Mario is by and large faithful to Catholic teaching, and especially understands the value of suffering. And though you are right in all your points, it would be prudent to interview him first in private n see what he says to your objections.
    If you couldn't do that, you should have made the video without calling him out specifically (like you did with the first video )
    The way you presented this video seemed more like clickbait.
    I think though you started with good intent, somewhere along the way you let this get to your head, everytime I think your ministry is actually doing better you end up doing something scandalous
    Anyways hope to see more content on actual Church teachings than calling out specific people, it may not get you many views but will help your listeners understand Church teaching.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      1. Do you think its very difficult for people to find Br Mario's Videon in UA-cam ?
      2.Why is it wrong to put a title which is clickbait ? Because you think so ?
      3. Instead giving general gyan and making personal comments, how about making a theological agrument for a change ?

    • @drmercyj
      @drmercyj 8 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia
      1. Yes, In fact I searched n personally found the video hard to find
      2. It's wrong to put a title which is clickbait not because I think so, or because of clickbait itself, but because the content was uncharitable towards a fellow Catholic and frankly calumny (there was nothing "red handed" about it)
      3. My "general gyan" is very much rooted in the Catholic virtue of charity towards your neighbour. And I am entitled to my opinion just as you have voiced out yours so openly for this as well as many other videos in the past. As for theological arguments to the prosperity gospel, I have already mentioned that I agree with you.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      1. But u found the video isn’t it ? So anyone who interested to understand the situation deeply will do that ! I have no obligation to post the full video !
      2. I think u are misusing the word calumny here ! Since u already agree with me theologically on the matter how can it be calumny ? And how does it lack charity ? Again general gyan -
      3. I am not challenging ur right to have a opinion but rather ur opinion ! Please how what I am doing lacks charity !

    • @drmercyj
      @drmercyj 8 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia
      1. I did not find it
      You have an obligation to post it when someone is asking you for facts to cross check your references , by humbly doing so you prove your own credibility
      Even well known journalists online post their sources of content for credibility
      2. It is calumny because you can't use the word "Red handed" ... caught red handed doing what exactly? With random words like "more money" to create scandal? The very definition of being caught red handed is when something wrong is done in secret and exposed
      This wasn't the case here, where you made him look like a criminal by your use of language
      You could have chosen a more mature and respectful way of addressing it
      3. How is it uncharitable ? It's pretty much common sense. You don't need (and won't find) a CCC reference for basic web etiquette. A simple way to know is how you would personally feel if someone tore down your ministry with their half knowledge n opinions in just a single volatile video .
      And from our previous interactions I can be sure that, you don't take criticism well, nor do you seek to understand another persons perspective from a place of empathy. So do unto others what you would like done unto you .
      I will be unsubscribing from your channel for the second time.
      As your language or approach towards your subscribers doesn't come across as respectful or charitable

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      1. Can I ask where the obligation comes from ?
      2. Seems u have no idea of what Calumny ? Because I used the word Red handed now it’s calumny ? 🤦 Anyone who speaks a word u don’t like is committing calumny ?
      3. I am just tired of this generic gyan - Can u please explain the half knowledge I have displayed ? Did u even watch the video ?

  • @user-qp8rw2nw5w
    @user-qp8rw2nw5w 8 місяців тому +1

    Your definition of prosperity gospel is unique. Did you make it up or did you get it from the church.? According to your logic, A priest asking for mass stipend is also a prosperity preacher.According to you, A priest cannot offer mass for anyone's intentions as it is prosperity gospel. According to your logic, church cannot ask for any funds for good work. Please get a proper and logical definition of prosperity gospel first

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      What’s ur definition of Prosperity Gospel ?

    • @user-qp8rw2nw5w
      @user-qp8rw2nw5w 8 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia Hahaha. It's very tough. I have a suggestion. Ask your better half for the correct definition. Tell her 5 reasons why your logic and definition is correct and her definition is wrong. Hopefully you will survive it. 😂. What I meant is The definition varies according to every person. Unless there is THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION by you know who, who defines the doctrine. It is your opinion vs another 's opinion. There will be no end to argument over who is right.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      Thats your answer !! Why dont you engage is a sensible and respectful conversation instead of making personal comments ?

    • @geraldjoseph7997
      @geraldjoseph7997 8 місяців тому

      You will reap what you sow

  • @simonsamratbriansom8740
    @simonsamratbriansom8740 8 місяців тому +1

    True, Dinesh. This guy's videos always promotes his own endeavours. I hv stopped watching him much before. It's God's plan which would dominate every individual's life. Sometimes he wud tk us thru the valley of sorrows but He always stays very close to those whose hearts are always aligned with Him. Nothing can the satan do, if we cling on to Jesus and Mother Mary. Good endeavour Dinesh. Keep up ur good work.

  • @nathaliamartis8004
    @nathaliamartis8004 8 місяців тому

    Will you stop criticising Mario Joseph.

  • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
    @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 9 місяців тому +1

    REMEMBER o Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession, was left unaided.....
    This is a catholic prayer made by saints, popes, bishops, and "lay" ...
    This prayer reminds Mary and Lures her ... A prayer "business contact"
    Blackmails Mary straight away
    And by the way I am sure no Catholics are making this Prayer to intensify thier suffering nor for gaining spiritual benifits alone
    Please consult the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops and catholic theologians to suspend this prayer without any further delay

    • @-Viva-Cristo-Rey
      @-Viva-Cristo-Rey 9 місяців тому +1

      You clearly havent read
      The book called the secret of the rosary by St. Louis Demontfort .

    • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
      @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@-Viva-Cristo-Rey
      Thank you for this comment:
      Montfort is so clearly heretic in writing that Jesus is so Holy that a human being can never approach him directly.... therefore he needs a mediator in Mary (sinless) to approach him
      This is a pure anti scriptural Teaching from Montfort and the edifice of false Marian Devotions being effected in the Catholic Church based on this Erroneous Teaching
      Montfort, by his teachings has defeated all that the Redeeming Sacrifice of Christ did and made Catholics Marian Devotees.....
      Thousands of Catholics even this day can't approach Jesus, they can only approach Mary
      And the Majority of poor Catholics; including the bishops , priests and nuns until today live without the knowledge of the Salvation...
      Thank God for Protestant Reformation and then for the Pentecostalism and then Charismatic Renewal in the Catholic Church emerged fom Pentecostalism that once again helped the people to grasp the mystery of redemption
      If the Catholic Church is true in asserting it does no mistake in teaching the faith and morals sorry, unless it declares Montforts Teaching are faulty and anti scriptural and tear down the edifice of Marian Devotions and False Mariology emerged out of it, church can never claim it
      Montforts Marian Teaching are Anti Christian for that matter anti Christ

    • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
      @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@-Viva-Cristo-Rey
      You want the examples to know
      that Mountford didn't know Jesus?
      Read what he has written:
      "The learned and pious Suarez the Jesuit, the erudite and devout Justus Lipsius doctor of Louvain, and many others, have proved invincibly, in consequence of the sentiments of the Fathers (and, among others, of St. Augustine, St. Ephrem deacon of Edessa, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Germanus of Constantinople, St. John Damascene, St. Anselm, St. Bernard, St. Bernardine, St. Thomas, and St. Bonaventure), that DEVOTION To Our BLESSED LADY IS NECESSARY TO SALVATION, and that, even in the opinion of Oecolampadius and some other heretics, it is an infallible mark of reprobation to have no esteem and love for the holy Virgin; while on the other hand it is an infallible mark of predestination to be entirely and truly devoted to her"
      Look at the list of the saints
      At the above quote
      Who teach
      "DEVOTION to Mary
      NECESSARY for Salvation"
      At Paragraph 43 of the book
      Mountford writes:
      "devotion to the most holy Virgin Mary is NECESSARY TO ALL MEN, simply for working out their salvation, it is STILL MORE SO for those who are called to any particular perfection; and , and a perfect fidelity to the Holy Ghost, WITHOUT A VERY GREAT UNION WITH the most HOLY VIRGIN, and a great DEPENDENCE on her succour...
      The above para is a
      Purely soteriological heresy
      By Mountford
      Now listen to what he says
      He has the help of St Thomas Aquinas now
      To state straight away
      Next Heresy
      "St. Thomas assures us that, following the order established by his divine Wisdom, GOD ORDINARILY IMPARTS HIS GRACES TO MEN THROUGH MARY. Therefore, if we wish to go to him, seeking union with him, we must use the same means which he used in coming down from heaven to assume our human nature and to impart his graces to us. That means was A COMPLETE DEPENDENCE ON MARY HIS MOTHER, which is true devotion to her.”
      Here Mary truly becomes demonic. These saints take away everything done by Christ and attribute it to Marry.
      She even "overthrows" Holy Spirit
      For this is the work
      Of the Holy Spirit
      Thomas Aquinas and Mountford
      Are joining hand
      In overthrowing the Holy Spirit
      In favour of Mary...
      Mountford writes
      It is through the most
      Blessed Virgin Mary that Jesus Christ came into the world,
      and it is also THROUGH HER
      that
      HE WILL REIGN IN THE WORLD.”
      Mountford writes at para 86:
      "Three steps to climb to go to God: The first, which is the nearest to us, And the most suited to our capacity, is Mary; the second is Jesus Christ; and the third is God the Father. To Go To Jesus, We Must Go To Mary; she is our mediatrix of intercession"
      Scripture teaches us
      It is by the father we are drawn
      To Jesus
      And Holy Spirit reveals Jesus to us
      Mountford has no idea
      Of who Jesus is
      He writes in para 85
      "It is BY HER that Jesus Christ came, and it is By Her That We Must Go To Him. If we FEAR to go directly to Jesus Christ our God, WHETHER BECAUSE OF HIS INFINITE GREATNESS, or BECAUSE OF OUR VILENESS, or because of our sins, let us boldly implore the aid and intercession of Mary our Mother"
      Dear brothers and sisters, I have written about this to the Cardinals, president and secretary of Catholic Bishop conference in India, few bishops, hundreds of priests and "lay" leaders... I have requested to the cardinal and bishops to forward it to the Pope and the Roman Curia
      Please forward it to all the bishops whom you know and the Cardinals and the priests
      Know it is the demonic Marian Devotions has hidden the Christ Crucified and his salvific act from the Catholics.
      Loving
      wilfredteacher@gmail.com

    • @jacksoncastelino04
      @jacksoncastelino04 8 місяців тому +1

      Stop Blasphemy

  • @amyasquadros685
    @amyasquadros685 9 місяців тому +7

    U are no one to judge him. U learn the teachings of church well first

  • @geraldjoseph7997
    @geraldjoseph7997 8 місяців тому

    Agree

  • @tomyarackal8119
    @tomyarackal8119 8 місяців тому +1

    Post the original video of Mario’s talk. Not clips of your selections.

    • @drmercyj
      @drmercyj 8 місяців тому

      Dear sir, pls do not expect an answer to your repeated question. You have been ignored on purpose. When I addressed him with the same, he mentioned in the comments repeatedly that he has no obligation to provide the link. Hence I have decided to unfollow and unsubscribe, because I don't think he really wants to have a fair and open forum, nor is he open to humble correction .

  • @cvinrodrigues4987
    @cvinrodrigues4987 8 місяців тому +1

    It is greatly appreciated if we stopped judging others.
    James 4:11-12 says, 'Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor? '
    Jesus is the only judge. He can change anyone to good in his own ways.
    Isaiah 55:8-9 says “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts. So we suerly cannot comprehend his ways.
    So its wise to ask God to change us and give clarity to our thoughts and keep our hearts clean rather than exposing others. It would have been a wise decision if you could talk to Bro. Mario directly and clarify. People can discern for themselves what is good and what is bad because God has given man the freedom to choose good or bad.
    If someone needs to be changed, it would'nt happen without the divine intervention. God can use us as an instrument to advice and preach and never to expose someone.
    The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd. (which is exposing her) “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?” ( Yes, this was to trap Jesus ) but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust. When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?” “No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”
    This concludes it all. Jesus has the last say. Therefore, lets first contemplate on our souls and hearts and keep a check on it constantly so that we don't fall in tempatation and sin. Lastly, the more we judge someone, we confirm that we dont trust our Saviour Jesus Christ to be a judge. God bless and shalom!

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      I am not judging him but his preaching !

    • @cvinrodrigues4987
      @cvinrodrigues4987 8 місяців тому

      It's my personal opinion Joseph. Let's be United as children of God and let's focus on Jesus because no matter what anyone preaches, it's that personal relationship we have with Jesus is what matters. Hope to see more of positive videos and lovely interviews and testimonies. God bless!

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      What anyone preaches ? U are not worried about the people who are misled ? That’s very unchristian of you ? That’s what Jesus would do ?
      He came behind the one lost sheep and you are telling me to abandon ?

    • @cvinrodrigues4987
      @cvinrodrigues4987 8 місяців тому

      @@SongonFirecatholicIndia @SongonFire Joseph, just an hour ago you said you don't judge. But you judged me by saying how unchristian of you 😊. That's alright!
      The answer to the question that if I'm not worried about the misled people, is right in the message (THAT'S WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?) Joseph. Yes surely JESUS WOULD lead them to the right PATH in his wisdom and power. God's will for us is to pray for each other.
      It's important for us as Christians to save our soul first.
      Gospel of Mathew says, What profit would there be for one to gain the whole world and forfeit his life?
      Yes Jesus would run behind one lost sheep leaving behind the 99. Jesus would do that because you and I as an individual are precious to him and only Jesus can do it. We as humans cannot run behind one lost sheep. But pray for them so that Jesus would save them too. There is a difference, Jesus going behind one lost sheep and you and me running behind one lost sheep Joseph. So let's do what we can by unitedly praying for each other and asking God's mercy to wipe away their sins.
      Let's end this here Joseph. Jesus is more important here not our discussion. Love is the greatest commandment of all. God bless! Wish you the best in your future videos.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому

      Yes Love is willing good of the God !! Not some blind Tolerance !! WE have to stand up against anything that is evil and false

  • @tonygeorge1984
    @tonygeorge1984 8 місяців тому +2

    Good job JD. These guys are totally wrong.

  • @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690
    @godforgivesusinchristcruci5690 9 місяців тому

    Why there must be a record from a saint?

  • @insearchof27
    @insearchof27 8 місяців тому

    Don't follow Mario,Guys.Thank you very much JD Bro for this video.

  • @vt8941
    @vt8941 8 місяців тому +1

    Mario Joseph is preaching Spirituality but not the Gospel. We dont hear from him nowadays about Jesus and Salvation
    Before he often used to quote Quran verses in his preachings. Strong opposition came and some people raised some doubts whether he promotes Islamic idealogy and He stopped quran quoting . Now he has his own charity company

  • @cirilofernandes9225
    @cirilofernandes9225 8 місяців тому

    Disagree!

  • @dillonkenethgonsalves3828
    @dillonkenethgonsalves3828 9 місяців тому +2

    Time to unsubscribe this channel. Someone must make a video out of this guy JD and then defame him, then only he'll get a taste of his own medicine

    • @jacksoncastelino04
      @jacksoncastelino04 9 місяців тому +1

      You are wrong Dillon. You should Learn Catechism and Embrace Entire Bible Teachings

    • @kelvinthomas9753
      @kelvinthomas9753 9 місяців тому +2

      What is wrong with you brother,you are making a false case against a good catholic youtuber.

    • @SongonFirecatholicIndia
      @SongonFirecatholicIndia  8 місяців тому +1

      What is the false case ? Catholic ? I highly doubt it

  • @geraldjoseph7997
    @geraldjoseph7997 9 місяців тому +12

    Why the hell are you worried about Bro Mario and Br. Johnson. You need to mind your business

    • @marcihf217
      @marcihf217 9 місяців тому

      Because they are teaching false gospels, false teachings. The Bible is very clear about false prophets and false teachers.

    • @kelvinthomas9753
      @kelvinthomas9753 9 місяців тому +6

      Why are you worried about Mr Joseph dinesh view point abt these to prosperity preacher, I think you need to mind your own business

    • @geraldjoseph7997
      @geraldjoseph7997 8 місяців тому

      Dinesh is only poking his dirty nose in every bodies business and preaching. He is only trying to find fault with other preachers. If he is so good he should start preaching....instead of find fault. He is a fool

  • @geraldjoseph7997
    @geraldjoseph7997 9 місяців тому +4

    This guy Joseph is totally wrong. What divine wisdom he is got to point his finger at someone else. He should mind his business and shut up.

  • @geraldjoseph7997
    @geraldjoseph7997 9 місяців тому +2

    Who the hell are you to preach about some else.

    • @jacksoncastelino04
      @jacksoncastelino04 9 місяців тому +1

      Truth is Bitter. Embrace Complete Gospel

    • @vt8941
      @vt8941 8 місяців тому

      Beware of many disguised preachers wearing catholic attires