Yes, we always shoot to end the attack. A shot that ends the attack might prove fatal, but killing was not the intent. I'm not sure "fill" vs "load" your mags is always appropriate. In many range exercises, a certain number of rounds are to be placed into the magazine, often fewer than it will hold. "Fill" your mag could result in placing more than the instructor intended. If it's a five round exercise, say, "Place five rounds into your magazine." No other command conveys the correct message.
Aim for center mass to reduce the chance of a dangerous pass through. If the bullets are stopped by a bullet proof vest there will be heavy bruises and likely broken ribs. The threat will be stopped and the chance of harm to others reduced. Center mass is the only target to stop the threat. Train in such a way.
@@ericalger5003 Love Clint Smith! Irascible old man speaks the plain truth. But I try combining Clints blunt truth with the subtle technical truths of Mas A.
I'm truly humbled by Mas thanking *us* for watching. Sir, the knowledge that you and Wilson Combat provide via this channel is *priceless*. It is we who thank you!
People hear “You only shoot if you are willing to kill” (which is a good viewpoint; makes you realize that pulling the trigger is a big deal) and repeat it as “you only shoot if you intend to kill”, but there’s huge difference and I appreciate you spending a few minutes pointing that out.
Most police engagements where an officer had to use their pistol they empty the entire magazine. Let’s face it, law abiding citizens have a higher standard to adhere to which is fine by me but you would think it would be the officers that would have to adhere to a higher standard. There’s a reason why they taught us controlled pairs or “double taps” if you’re familiar with the term in the infantry. I feel like half of them shut their eyes and go trigger happy in the direction of the threat which isn’t as effective and you run the risk of getting someone else hurt emptying the whole thing unnecessarily.
@@TheSakufighter Years ago when revolvers ruled when our police range was open to the public I saw most police couldnt shoot. As long as they could make the minimum to qualify that was good enough. Now I watch the police videos on here and it seems a great many officers substitute volume of fire for marksmanship.
It's truly a fine art to walk where the ice is thickest. I replay videos like this whenever I clean a firearm or prep for a range trip so that the lessons become my mindset, practice and vocabulary. Thanks Mas.
If the ice is thick there is no trick to walking on it. Walking where the ice IS thin is foolish. Walking where the ice MAY BE thin requires skill and courage.
I'm pretty much always on the same page as Mas, but it's hard to support letting Guyger off for shooting that guy in his own apartment. Everyone knows if you carry a gun you need to be as sharp as can be at all times, and people need to be protected from "oops, I thought you were a bad guy" situations like these. The guy was in his own home and she made a terrible mistake. Just because it's a mistake doesn't mean she shouldn't be held accountable.
I'd add MN vs Potter. Potter was the suburb PD officer who, by a tragic mistake drew her service pistol, Glock instead of her issue EDW ⚡️. Potter was convicted. I'd add, by records: 🗃 she was her small police dept's use of force training supervisor 🤔 & union shop rep. Potter by her own LE career had 0 lethal force events or EDW/OC uses(none) prior to the shooting.
Mistake of fact does not equal excuseable in this case. Mistake of fact wherein a homeowner shoots a person making the mistake of fact guyger did would be excuseable ... A man's home IS his castle, all things being equal.
Yeah, that was a pretty bad take. She was on the phone with her boyfriend and distracted, he was in his home eating ice cream. It's a good example of how the wrong choice of word can screw you on appeal, but not an excusable mistake.
Mr Ayoob, just finished today two days of training with Mr John Farnam and your name came up in the training curriculum - my thanks to you, Mr Farnam and everyone that provides such valuable learning lessons!
I remember when I started being a collateral duty firearms instructor back in the early 1990s, the "shoot to kill" phrase was the hardest one to break the officers from saying. It had been so ingrained in movies and pop culture, it was almost an automatic response. I have also used the "words have meanings" phrase more times than I could ever count, from firearms training , report writing to teaching officers how to testify in court. One thing I would add, is always take a moment to reflect on the question you are asked, repeat it in your head, then ask yourself why us this attorney, or person, asking me this question. Of its not your attorney asking the question, then you must always assume that the opposing attorney is asking it for a specific reason, and 9 chances out of 10 that question is not to strengthen your case, but theirs.
I watch the channel for the information. I know WC makes firearms, but the channel is geared around TEACHING & not sales. I have learned a ton from the channel and I have so much MORE TO LEARN. Thank you for all y'all do.
That's easy for anyone not in that situation to say, or do. And that is why in a self defense shooting ,you never talk to police! Always ask for your lawyer first! Great information Mass, as always . I thank you for wisdom , and your soothing teaching ability! Especially now more than ever.
If it is a bad shooting, don't talk to the police. If it is a good shooting, you should be the one to call the police even if others have done so, and report: "I was attacked and was forced to defend myself." ... MA has a video on this.
@@brucewarren5248Not only Mas, but many others say the same thing. You need to practice what you should and shouldn’t say and what actions you need to take after a self defense shooting. It’s not something you should just wing, it should be ingrained in your memory.
@@mplslawnguy3389that’s a really good point. I can’t overstate this. It’s a _REALLY_ good point. I once called to report a break in to my car. I happened to mention to the very friendly and helpful dispatcher “yeah, last time they were on my porch taking things, this time they’re in my car, next time maybe they’ll be inside the house with me and I’ll be forced to protect myself”. Her entire attitude changed. I was no longer the victim of a crime. I was a job number to be investigated. Multiple cars arrived within minutes, when they weren’t even going to come over ever, at all, before I said it. Watch your words carefully. They can and will . . .
@@brucewarren5248 Don't paraphrase, or take out of context what Mas says/said. You WILL (you just did) mess it up! Refer someone to his video or something in a book of his, fine. But misquoting and quoting out of context ALWAYS mess up the truth.
@@stephencolley334 Are you sure you meant to reply to me? I did not paraphrase or take anything out of context? The bit about avoiding "yes" and "no" answers comes from me and is based on what I learned from jury consultants and experience. How many depositions have you taken? How many times have you testified either in a deposition or trial? For me, it is so many that I have lost count. And, I can assure you that a good lawyer can make your answer into something it is not. Answer the following question with either "yes" or "no": "Do you always drive that fast." BTW: In one of his old videos in which he talks to a group of LEOs regarding giving testimony , MAS even addresses this.
Mas, I first read the words you said here, "shoot to stop" many years ago, in a magazine long since lost due to age, time and mother nature, but the words stuck with me, as a armed security guard, it said a lot to me, and to this day, I live by them words, shoot to stop, many people that are carrying do not understand it at all, and I hope for them, they soon do, before they have to draw that gun in a self defense moment, thanks for all the years of wisdom and knowledge you have passed on to many of us.
Yes. Let's not get so enamored of the right to use force in self-defense as to ignore irresponsible use of force. She unlawfully deprived a man of his life when he had done nothing wrong.
My view on that case is that it was a murder. Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility so situational awareness is a big deal. She wasn't paying attention to where she was going or what she was doing. She walked into an apartment where the door wasn't broken into, it was simply ajar, and shot a unarmed man who she couldn't clearly see. Negligent homicide at the least imho.
@@Allazander Personally, I'm of the opinion it's first degree manslaughter. It obviously isn't first degree murder (no premeditation), and second degree murder implies the act was done in malice. I don't believe she maliciously shot him, however her *gross* negligence resulted in his death, and hence it's first degree manslaughter. Obviously, this warrants a pretty severe punishment; we as a society cannot accept this as an excuse outright, otherwise it would be abused by those who "accidentally" walk into the homes of others and kill them. That said, unlike murder, I very much doubt she deserves a life sentence.
@@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 I'm with you on this. There was no malice, no premeditation, none of that. Due to here exhaustion and body going on auto-pilot, she thought (for all intents and purposes) she had gotten to her own apartment and based upon that ... she thought someone had broken into her apartment. If this hadn't been a shooting, people would have looked at this differently. What I mean is if everything happened exactly the same but they got into a physical altercation where no one died, she probably would have left the courtroom with a reprimand or some sort of remedial training. Why? Because it would have been much more understandable to the jury. Like accidentally walking into the wrong classroom at school and finding out too late that you're in the wrong place.
I was always taught to say, “STOP!, or I’ll shoot!”. Never the word “kill”, or any malicious word that could land you behind bars. You are correct. Words have meaning and power. Power to exonerate or convict you.
I totally see the wisdom. One question no one has asked or at least I haven’t seen is…..what would have happened if the officer was shot by the home owner??? Many people have a sidearm near them when at home. Awesome work here! Thank you 🙏
Extremely sage advice ! My uncle was a NY District Atty for 25 years and he told me over and over that the real power of an atty is found in the spoken word. Stop and think before answering...it's your own words that can destroy your outcome. Its the strongest tool the prosecution has to slay you ! And remember...they have a lot more experience !
Mas has such a wealth of knowledge and experience. He’s a true gift and legend to those of us that know we have the absolute right to protect ourselves and our families from great bodily harm or death because our Constitution gives us that freedom. 🇺🇸
I’ve had a CCW permit since 1998 and sometimes it is required for the job. Massad I can’t thank you enough for sharing your knowledge, as every 5 years I renew my permit I don’t recall this being taught in class. Thank you and god bless 🙏. TH
As a gun owner, worried and insured, knowing the difficulties to protect yourself from the legal system, I have watched dozens of videos from "smart lawyers", but this video gave me more practical important info than all of them combined.
Ayoob knows his way around. ⚖️ . I'd add too, NOT to speak to any media, by standers, fire EMT 🚑 etc at a incident scene. They too can twist your words or make you look bias, fearful, emotional. I, in 2023 take issue with how modern police, troopers, deputies use the "first" name approach in field interviews, contacts. I think it's crass & unethical but I see it often at calls for service. 🚑🚒🚓
I’ve watched a lot of Mas’ videos and have learned a TON from him. The WC channel is focused on TEACHING. If you know folks who carry and are not watching these videos, they are missing out on 90% of CC education that Masaad covers here. God Bless you Massad! We thank you for sharing 50 yrs of firearms knowledge with us. You are very gracious.
Funny you should mention it. I'm going to court tomorrow. To observe a trial where a drinking buddy of mine is being accused of insulting a politician. The semantics are going to be hilarious.
@@onalert413A bunch of European countries and Canada now have laws against speech they don’t like, and we’re not far behind. Someone was jailed for a meme during the last election. People had better wake up and wake up fast.
On the choice of words bit at the end: I think it's worth noting that William Fairbairn and Eric Sykes (the "Fairbairn-Sykes" Fairbairn and Sykes) titled their 1942 book "Shooting to Live"
Thank you Massad. Yes, words do mean everything and always should be chosen wisely and with true intent. Ive learned this in Quality Cotrol as a Welder. Once again, Thank you.
Thanks, Mas. In the time of social media and the vernacular that it has promoted, words with a firm definition have become popularized to mean something entirely different. The value of a well formed vocabulary is lost upon millions. They may learn the error of their ways in a court of law.
@@stephencolley334 I can't say what they are doing, but I can say what they aren't doing. They aren't promoting reading literary works that helped generations form a grammatical foundation.
Massad, THANK YOU for sharing your wisdom with us! I got my Concealed Handgun License (state of Oregon) back in 2000. I asked my instructor "if in a situation which I need to draw my gun, should I shoot to wound or shoot to kill?" His immediate reply was "always shoot to kill, because if you don't kill the suspect, the judge and jury will think that the situation wasn't dire enough for you to feel that your life was truly endangered." I replied "okay", but in my mind I was saying, "BULLSHIT! If I can stop the threat without killing the suspect, then I win!" Unfortunately, I got to test my philosophy in 2017 when I was attacked by a homeless drug addict while I was riding my bicycle through town. He flipped me off of my bike and I landed on my ass on the pavement, which fractured my tailbone. As I looked up at him, he had my bike up over his head and he was about to slam it down on me. I rolled out the way of the descending bike, and very painfully got up onto my feet, and as did, he started to approach me again. I pulled my summer carry LCP2 out of my pocket and aimed it between his eyes and said "turn around and walk away or I'll splatter your f***ing brains all over the sidewalk!". He turned and walked away, I called 911 and gave a detailed description of the suspect, he was located and arrested and spent most of his one year sentence in prison. The D.A. told me I could have legally shot him, but I already knew that. If I had shot him at the moment I had him in my sights it would have been a vengeful shooting, which is illegal and for me it is immoral. I was able to end the assault without firing a single shot, and for that I am thankful. But, I have a permanent spinal injury from that ordeal.
Another great and valuable video. Massad, there are current Court rulings regarding 2A issues with high capacity magazine (CA) and AR15 (IL); I would love to hear your wisdom on these two. Thanks again!
Every time I hear you speak I'm carried back to 2016 when I took your MAG 40 class. Between your riveting presentations and the voluminous notes I took I can recall so much of your teaching. I served as an assistant RSO in the 2017 class which only reinforced what I learned the previous year. Thank you for all you have done for the shooting community.
You are literally the wisest man I have ever met. You remind me of a great english teacher in high school, combined with my best science teacher, and many mother massively smart people I consider a miracle to have met them
So true.... surviving the fight for your life doesn't end with the incident; rather, it continues because you will likely face legal peril. If you carry for self-protection, you must also carry the knowledge for when a use of force is justified & be able to articulate those facts while under extreme emotional duress. May we each stand capable. Thank you WC pros for sharing this wisdom on your platform! 🙏🏼
Outstanding Mas. Thank you for the words of wisdom. Please do not apologize in advance of offering the best counsel. In light of many ccw coverage company fails in covering clients, I find it more important than ever to know how best to protect one's self. You and all the team teach sound wisdom in an environment of online rambos. They have the potential of damaging their our futures and those of all 2a defenders. Eell done Mas. Keep the sound words coming. Thank you.
I write a lot of technical reports in the aerospace industry. Wordsmithing is a big deal, intended to convey a targeting meaning. Wonderful channel. Thx
A friend of mine was in the police academy in new york city in the early seventies. Those were the exact same words he said to me that he was taught to say, Police don't move. He was instructed not to use the word freeze.
Mas, I have followed you for many years. Every time I hear you speak, re-read one of your books or watch one of your videos, I either learn something or am reminded of something I might have forgotten. Most of what I have learned over the many years regarding guns, the law, safe practices and tips I have learned from you. You, my friend, are a national treasure. Thank you and God bless you!
Mas, your advice is also useful outside the self defense shooting arena! Many times when dealing with bosses/HR depts, using words such as regret,remorse, can be the difference between cleared or fired. Thank you for another Life lesson!
Years ago, a much younger Massad Ayoob was giving sage advice to a hand full of people sitting outdoors at a picnic table. At least that is the way I remember it. He said when in court and an attorney reminds you that you are under oath (implying you are dishonest) our reply should be - “yes I am aware of this and I am also aware that you are not under oath.” I thought was the greatest advice of all time. Since then however, I have discovered that every time he advises us on the subject, it too is the greatest advice of all time. Thank you Mas.
You're absolutely correct regarding commands. Back in the '80's, in the NYPD Police Academy, we were instructed to give the command, "PO-LEECE, DON'T MOVE". We were told not to say "POLICE DON'T MOVE", because too many cops would say it so fast it would sound like "PLEASE DON'T MOVE". A bold, forceful command of "DON'T MOVE", might be enough of a command to stop a perp from continuing there criminal activity. Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom Massad Ayoob!
My CCW instructor in Texas repeated to his class, "NEVER use the 'k' word (kill) always say, 'I wanted to stop his attack. I was in fear for my life." Wisdom. Thank you Mr. Ayoob.
Your content is first class. Many points from these are used in training at my unit. I have an old 1911 maintenance manual with Bill that is in my youngest daughter's wish list along with my dads 70 series. Once I'm done with it of course.
If we refer to Ian McCollum as "gun jesus" then surely Mr Ayoob is our "gun moses" leading us through our 40 years in the wilderness with his humble wisdom. Thank you sir!
You are so correct. Words being an eye witness matter. I was a witness of two very serious incidents. One a shooting and one a stabbing. The shooting was clearly self defense as I saw it and charges were dropped. The stabbing I saw events leading up to it not the actual event and charges were reduced. Giving clear and accurate details made the difference.
'The Meaning of the Words is in the Words" - I have followed this since my very early years as it applies to everything in Life! Just as I have followed You. Thanks for your contributions to Safety and Security, my Friend.
I have been deposed, and have served as a witness in court proceedings. Mas' advice is incredibly significant. To find it in the morass that is YT makes it stand out even more.
Such overwhelmingly important info, I appreciate so much that you pass your wisdom on to us. This for me is every bit as important as firearm skills. 👏
Brilliant stuff Mr Mas. As a language guy, multi lingual many years overseas, somantics is key to safety. Ill add to that, that after a sift through the comments, the spectators agree that He defines use of a firearm with absolute distinction..
I can only echo the comment before mine. This shared knowledge, this insight from Mas is real GIFT! Every protector should understand the significance of these words.
I absolutely love listening to you and what you have to say as you are the most thorough when your giving examples. I also want to thank you for all you have done for others in the past as well as what you currently do. You have made a positive impact on this planet and I believe you have made a difference in your service and changed everyone's perspective for everyone you have spoken to. Your an amazing man and nearly the entire make population can take lessons away with them on hot to be a better man and remain a positive influence. I salute you sir.
Another great video Massad. Love your videos and books. I've learned a ton from you, and I'm sure I've only scratched the surface. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge 👍🏻😁
Getting so much wisdom from so few minutes is a gift. I wish I could listen to MA every day.
Amen. I agree my friend.
I learn so much from you.
Thank you.
Just think of how smart his wife is!
@@mikeporter10 Why?
@@mikeporter10
Whither she is or not isn't relevant, but what makes you think she is smart?
I teach “stop the threat to my life”
I have plenty of Ayoob that I preach, but now I’m replacing “load your mags” to “fill your mags.”
Well Put.
Well said*
Yes, we always shoot to end the attack. A shot that ends the attack might prove fatal, but killing was not the intent. I'm not sure "fill" vs "load" your mags is always appropriate. In many range exercises, a certain number of rounds are to be placed into the magazine, often fewer than it will hold. "Fill" your mag could result in placing more than the instructor intended. If it's a five round exercise, say, "Place five rounds into your magazine." No other command conveys the correct message.
They're full.
@@rangersmith4652
Nit picking.
This is possibly the most important gun talk of all.
Your words of wisdom are invaluable ❤
I see a video of the old man, I click right away. Best knowledge is free knowledge. Thank you
Great comment as usual Marvin. You are my hero
HEY! I resemble that remark.
I click too.
There’s a lot of dead young wise men. Not to many old fools
There is one old fool currently in the White House.....
Ok, here's some free knowledge: you will be an old man someday
He could still outshoot 99% of the people watching on the range or scenario of you choice.
Such is a good man sharing his wisdom earned throughout a life of service.
Aim for center mass to reduce the chance of a dangerous pass through. If the bullets are stopped by a bullet proof vest there will be heavy bruises and likely broken ribs. The threat will be stopped and the chance of harm to others reduced. Center mass is the only target to stop the threat. Train in such a way.
@@samueltucker8473"Shoot em in the CROTCH!" - Clint Smith. I've been training with that in mind.
@@ericalger5003
Love Clint Smith! Irascible old man speaks the plain truth.
But I try combining Clints blunt truth with the subtle technical truths of Mas A.
@@ericalger5003
ĹOVE me some Clint Smith!
Follow him and Mas A, you will never go wrong!😊!!
I'm truly humbled by Mas thanking *us* for watching. Sir, the knowledge that you and Wilson Combat provide via this channel is *priceless*. It is we who thank you!
People hear “You only shoot if you are willing to kill” (which is a good viewpoint; makes you realize that pulling the trigger is a big deal) and repeat it as “you only shoot if you intend to kill”, but there’s huge difference and I appreciate you spending a few minutes pointing that out.
Most police engagements where an officer had to use their pistol they empty the entire magazine. Let’s face it, law abiding citizens have a higher standard to adhere to which is fine by me but you would think it would be the officers that would have to adhere to a higher standard. There’s a reason why they taught us controlled pairs or “double taps” if you’re familiar with the term in the infantry. I feel like half of them shut their eyes and go trigger happy in the direction of the threat which isn’t as effective and you run the risk of getting someone else hurt emptying the whole thing unnecessarily.
@@TheSakufighter Years ago when revolvers ruled when our police range was open to the public I saw most police couldnt shoot. As long as they could make the minimum to qualify that was good enough. Now I watch the police videos on here and it seems a great many officers substitute volume of fire for marksmanship.
@@TheSakufighter
Blah, blah!
You only offer disjointed ramblings without a point!
@@glennrishton5679
Civilians too.
Hence the popularity of "stick mags" among Civilians.
Too lazy to spend time at the range developing skills.
i only need one. just one
It's truly a fine art to walk where the ice is thickest. I replay videos like this whenever I clean a firearm or prep for a range trip so that the lessons become my mindset, practice and vocabulary. Thanks Mas.
Walking where the ice is thickest could be foolish if there's a path that's off the ice completely.
Sounds boring af
If the ice is thick there is no trick to walking on it.
Walking where the ice IS thin is foolish.
Walking where the ice MAY BE thin requires skill and courage.
@@rangersmith4652
We all (especially LE) venture onto the ice, in one aspect or another, every day!
I'm pretty much always on the same page as Mas, but it's hard to support letting Guyger off for shooting that guy in his own apartment. Everyone knows if you carry a gun you need to be as sharp as can be at all times, and people need to be protected from "oops, I thought you were a bad guy" situations like these. The guy was in his own home and she made a terrible mistake. Just because it's a mistake doesn't mean she shouldn't be held accountable.
I'd add MN vs Potter. Potter was the suburb PD officer who, by a tragic mistake drew her service pistol, Glock instead of her issue EDW ⚡️. Potter was convicted. I'd add, by records: 🗃 she was her small police dept's use of force training supervisor 🤔 & union shop rep. Potter by her own LE career had 0 lethal force events or EDW/OC uses(none) prior to the shooting.
Mistake of fact does not equal excuseable in this case.
Mistake of fact wherein a homeowner shoots a person making the mistake of fact guyger did would be excuseable ... A man's home IS his castle, all things being equal.
Totally agree
It's hard not to wonder how much worse things would have gone for Guyger in court if she wasn't a cop.
Yeah, that was a pretty bad take. She was on the phone with her boyfriend and distracted, he was in his home eating ice cream. It's a good example of how the wrong choice of word can screw you on appeal, but not an excusable mistake.
Mr Ayoob, just finished today two days of training with Mr John Farnam and your name came up in the training curriculum - my thanks to you, Mr Farnam and everyone that provides such valuable learning lessons!
Always words of "Wisdom" from Massad Ayoob.
I remember when I started being a collateral duty firearms instructor back in the early 1990s, the "shoot to kill" phrase was the hardest one to break the officers from saying. It had been so ingrained in movies and pop culture, it was almost an automatic response.
I have also used the "words have meanings" phrase more times than I could ever count, from firearms training , report writing to teaching officers how to testify in court.
One thing I would add, is always take a moment to reflect on the question you are asked, repeat it in your head, then ask yourself why us this attorney, or person, asking me this question. Of its not your attorney asking the question, then you must always assume that the opposing attorney is asking it for a specific reason, and 9 chances out of 10 that question is not to strengthen your case, but theirs.
Use "critical thinking" skills?
Oh, hell no. That is above my pay grade.
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AKA - Dumb ass /Lazyass
I watch the channel for the information. I know WC makes firearms, but the channel is geared around TEACHING & not sales. I have learned a ton from the channel and I have so much MORE TO LEARN. Thank you for all y'all do.
If you want to learn take a class or buy (and read) a book!
@stephencolley334 I do both. I also spend a ton of time on the range. If you want be a smart ass go somewhere else.
The respect I have for this professional is beyond words!
That's easy for anyone not in that situation to say, or do. And that is why in a self defense shooting ,you never talk to police! Always ask for your lawyer first! Great information Mass, as always . I thank you for wisdom , and your soothing teaching ability! Especially now more than ever.
If it is a bad shooting, don't talk to the police. If it is a good shooting, you should be the one to call the police even if others have done so, and report: "I was attacked and was forced to defend myself." ... MA has a video on this.
@@brucewarren5248Not only Mas, but many others say the same thing. You need to practice what you should and shouldn’t say and what actions you need to take after a self defense shooting. It’s not something you should just wing, it should be ingrained in your memory.
@@mplslawnguy3389that’s a really good point. I can’t overstate this. It’s a _REALLY_ good point.
I once called to report a break in to my car. I happened to mention to the very friendly and helpful dispatcher “yeah, last time they were on my porch taking things, this time they’re in my car, next time maybe they’ll be inside the house with me and I’ll be forced to protect myself”.
Her entire attitude changed. I was no longer the victim of a crime. I was a job number to be investigated. Multiple cars arrived within minutes, when they weren’t even going to come over ever, at all, before I said it.
Watch your words carefully. They can and will . . .
@@brucewarren5248
Don't paraphrase, or take out of context what Mas says/said. You WILL (you just did) mess it up!
Refer someone to his video or something in a book of his, fine.
But misquoting and quoting out of context ALWAYS mess up the truth.
@@stephencolley334 Are you sure you meant to reply to me? I did not paraphrase or take anything out of context? The bit about avoiding "yes" and "no" answers comes from me and is based on what I learned from jury consultants and experience. How many depositions have you taken? How many times have you testified either in a deposition or trial? For me, it is so many that I have lost count. And, I can assure you that a good lawyer can make your answer into something it is not. Answer the following question with either "yes" or "no": "Do you always drive that fast." BTW: In one of his old videos in which he talks to a group of LEOs regarding giving testimony , MAS even addresses this.
This is some of the best advice that you can get, make sure you all remember everything that Mas said. 🙏🏽
This was a powerful tuterial and play this one over and over keep your brains tune to this one. Muscle memory
Mas, I first read the words you said here, "shoot to stop" many years ago, in a magazine long since lost due to age, time and mother nature, but the words stuck with me, as a armed security guard, it said a lot to me, and to this day, I live by them words, shoot to stop, many people that are carrying do not understand it at all, and I hope for them, they soon do, before they have to draw that gun in a self defense moment, thanks for all the years of wisdom and knowledge you have passed on to many of us.
I'm not sure how I feel about the lady walking uninvited into a man's home and shooting him. I feel she should be guilty of something, but not murder.
Yes. Let's not get so enamored of the right to use force in self-defense as to ignore irresponsible use of force. She unlawfully deprived a man of his life when he had done nothing wrong.
My view on that case is that it was a murder. Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility so situational awareness is a big deal. She wasn't paying attention to where she was going or what she was doing. She walked into an apartment where the door wasn't broken into, it was simply ajar, and shot a unarmed man who she couldn't clearly see. Negligent homicide at the least imho.
@@Allazander
Personally, I'm of the opinion it's first degree manslaughter. It obviously isn't first degree murder (no premeditation), and second degree murder implies the act was done in malice. I don't believe she maliciously shot him, however her *gross* negligence resulted in his death, and hence it's first degree manslaughter.
Obviously, this warrants a pretty severe punishment; we as a society cannot accept this as an excuse outright, otherwise it would be abused by those who "accidentally" walk into the homes of others and kill them. That said, unlike murder, I very much doubt she deserves a life sentence.
@@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 I'm with you on this.
There was no malice, no premeditation, none of that. Due to here exhaustion and body going on auto-pilot, she thought (for all intents and purposes) she had gotten to her own apartment and based upon that ... she thought someone had broken into her apartment.
If this hadn't been a shooting, people would have looked at this differently. What I mean is if everything happened exactly the same but they got into a physical altercation where no one died, she probably would have left the courtroom with a reprimand or some sort of remedial training. Why? Because it would have been much more understandable to the jury. Like accidentally walking into the wrong classroom at school and finding out too late that you're in the wrong place.
That poor man was in his apartment eating a bowl of ice cream and got shot to death. Justifiable ? Gimme a break.
Thank you, Massad, for your knowledge, which you have graciously shared with me & many, many, many, many people.
I've followed you 4 or 5 decades.
I was always taught to say, “STOP!, or I’ll shoot!”. Never the word “kill”, or any malicious word that could land you behind bars.
You are correct. Words have meaning and power. Power to exonerate or convict you.
I’m going to have to remember that “Don’t Move!!” Think I might say it over and over and over again hundreds of times. Really appreciate your wisdom
I totally see the wisdom. One question no one has asked or at least I haven’t seen is…..what would have happened if the officer was shot by the home owner??? Many people have a sidearm near them when at home. Awesome work here! Thank you 🙏
Extremely sage advice ! My uncle was a NY District Atty for 25 years and he told me over and over that the real power of an atty is found in the spoken word. Stop and think before answering...it's your own words that can destroy your outcome. Its the strongest tool the prosecution has to slay you ! And remember...they have a lot more experience !
Mas has such a wealth of knowledge and experience. He’s a true gift and legend to those of us that know we have the absolute right to protect ourselves and our families from great bodily harm or death because our Constitution gives us that freedom. 🇺🇸
I’ve had a CCW permit since 1998 and sometimes it is required for the job. Massad I can’t thank you enough for sharing your knowledge, as every 5 years I renew my permit I don’t recall this being taught in class. Thank you and god bless 🙏.
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As a gun owner, worried and insured, knowing the difficulties to protect yourself from the legal system, I have watched dozens of videos from "smart lawyers", but this video gave me more practical important info than all of them combined.
Ayoob knows his way around. ⚖️ . I'd add too, NOT to speak to any media, by standers, fire EMT 🚑 etc at a incident scene. They too can twist your words or make you look bias, fearful, emotional. I, in 2023 take issue with how modern police, troopers, deputies use the "first" name approach in field interviews, contacts. I think it's crass & unethical but I see it often at calls for service. 🚑🚒🚓
I’ve watched a lot of Mas’ videos and have learned a TON from him. The WC channel is focused on TEACHING. If you know folks who carry and are not watching these videos, they are missing out on 90% of CC education that Masaad covers here. God Bless you Massad! We thank you for sharing 50 yrs of firearms knowledge with us. You are very gracious.
If you really want to learn from Mas, buy one of his books!
What you see on the WC channel is watered down and even then paid for by WC.
Buy the book!
Yes indeed! I’m sure his book will be great!
Funny you should mention it. I'm going to court tomorrow. To observe a trial where a drinking buddy of mine is being accused of insulting a politician. The semantics are going to be hilarious.
What country do you live in where it's a crime to insult a politician?
@@onalert413A bunch of European countries and Canada now have laws against speech they don’t like, and we’re not far behind. Someone was jailed for a meme during the last election. People had better wake up and wake up fast.
Thank you for these words of wisdom. I wouldn't call this boring. I found it informative.
On the choice of words bit at the end: I think it's worth noting that William Fairbairn and Eric Sykes (the "Fairbairn-Sykes" Fairbairn and Sykes) titled their 1942 book "Shooting to Live"
Thank you Massad. Yes, words do mean everything and always should be chosen wisely and with true intent. Ive learned this in Quality Cotrol as a Welder. Once again, Thank you.
Thanks, Mas. In the time of social media and the vernacular that it has promoted, words with a firm definition have become popularized to mean something entirely different. The value of a well formed vocabulary is lost upon millions. They may learn the error of their ways in a court of law.
The last generation of English-speakers .
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Holy crap!
You hit it out of the park!
Thank you.
Vocabulary hell!
They can't even form a proper paragraph or sentence.
What are the schools doing?
@@stephencolley334 I can't say what they are doing, but I can say what they aren't doing. They aren't promoting reading literary works that helped generations form a grammatical foundation.
"Do not ask me to regret my own survival"........Thank you Mr. Ayoob!
Massad, THANK YOU for sharing your wisdom with us! I got my Concealed Handgun License (state of Oregon) back in 2000. I asked my instructor "if in a situation which I need to draw my gun, should I shoot to wound or shoot to kill?" His immediate reply was "always shoot to kill, because if you don't kill the suspect, the judge and jury will think that the situation wasn't dire enough for you to feel that your life was truly endangered." I replied "okay", but in my mind I was saying, "BULLSHIT! If I can stop the threat without killing the suspect, then I win!" Unfortunately, I got to test my philosophy in 2017 when I was attacked by a homeless drug addict while I was riding my bicycle through town. He flipped me off of my bike and I landed on my ass on the pavement, which fractured my tailbone. As I looked up at him, he had my bike up over his head and he was about to slam it down on me. I rolled out the way of the descending bike, and very painfully got up onto my feet, and as did, he started to approach me again. I pulled my summer carry LCP2 out of my pocket and aimed it between his eyes and said "turn around and walk away or I'll splatter your f***ing brains all over the sidewalk!". He turned and walked away, I called 911 and gave a detailed description of the suspect, he was located and arrested and spent most of his one year sentence in prison. The D.A. told me I could have legally shot him, but I already knew that. If I had shot him at the moment I had him in my sights it would have been a vengeful shooting, which is illegal and for me it is immoral. I was able to end the assault without firing a single shot, and for that I am thankful. But, I have a permanent spinal injury from that ordeal.
Mas is a national treasure for true citizens and patriots.
Not hyperbole.
Watch any 3 videos with him and you will most likely feel the same.
I like to listen to Mass because he speaks so well, no wasted words , no script.
Another great and valuable video. Massad, there are current Court rulings regarding 2A issues with high capacity magazine (CA) and AR15 (IL); I would love to hear your wisdom on these two. Thanks again!
Sounds like people need to forget about guns and get a life.
Every time I hear you speak I'm carried back to 2016 when I took your MAG 40 class. Between your riveting presentations and the voluminous notes I took I can recall so much of your teaching. I served as an assistant RSO in the 2017 class which only reinforced what I learned the previous year. Thank you for all you have done for the shooting community.
You are literally the wisest man I have ever met. You remind me of a great english teacher in high school, combined with my best science teacher, and many mother massively smart people I consider a miracle to have met them
So true.... surviving the fight for your life doesn't end with the incident; rather, it continues because you will likely face legal peril.
If you carry for self-protection, you must also carry the knowledge for when a use of force is justified & be able to articulate those facts while under extreme emotional duress.
May we each stand capable. Thank you WC pros for sharing this wisdom on your platform! 🙏🏼
Words do indeed matter. I will listen again to Massad's until I remember them.
Outstanding Mas. Thank you for the words of wisdom. Please do not apologize in advance of offering the best counsel. In light of many ccw coverage company fails in covering clients, I find it more important than ever to know how best to protect one's self. You and all the team teach sound wisdom in an environment of online rambos. They have the potential of damaging their our futures and those of all 2a defenders. Eell done Mas. Keep the sound words coming. Thank you.
I write a lot of technical reports in the aerospace industry. Wordsmithing is a big deal, intended to convey a targeting meaning. Wonderful channel. Thx
Thanks MA❤
Mr. Ayoob, you are a fantastic American...🇺🇸
You literally bring awareness and good advice
A friend of mine was in the police academy in new york city in the early seventies. Those were the exact same words he said to me that he was taught to say, Police don't move. He was instructed not to use the word freeze.
Mas, I have followed you for many years. Every time I hear you speak, re-read one of your books or watch one of your videos, I either learn something or am reminded of something I might have forgotten. Most of what I have learned over the many years regarding guns, the law, safe practices and tips I have learned from you. You, my friend, are a national treasure. Thank you and God bless you!
The late great Elmer Keith summed it up well when he said, "I'd rather be missed by a .44 Magnum that hit with a .22 Short.
I've been following you Sir for 40 years, and will continue until I leave this Earth. 👍 🇺🇸
I'm a life long student of language and semantics. Listen to this man. He has real world experience and could save your life from prison. 😮
Sage advice! Practice your response as you would practice any technique.
Mas, your advice is also useful outside the self defense shooting arena! Many times when dealing with bosses/HR depts, using words such as regret,remorse, can be the difference between cleared or fired. Thank you for another Life lesson!
Can't thank you enough Mas. You are doing us a huge service with these videos.
Thank you Mass, your videos are so valuable. If the righteous cop or the righteous citizen makes the right decision, your videos will be so valuable!
Years ago, a much younger Massad Ayoob was giving sage advice to a hand full of people sitting outdoors at a picnic table. At least that is the way I remember it.
He said when in court and an attorney reminds you that you are under oath (implying you are dishonest) our reply should be - “yes I am aware of this and I am also aware that you are not under oath.” I thought was the greatest advice of all time. Since then however, I have discovered that every time he advises us on the subject, it too is the greatest advice of all time. Thank you Mas.
You always leave me with a lot to think about. Thanks Massad.
Superb advice, lucidly presented by a true expert.
Uncle Mas is truly a wealth of knowledge, and sensibility, in a messed up world!
You're absolutely correct regarding commands.
Back in the '80's, in the NYPD Police Academy, we were instructed to give the command, "PO-LEECE, DON'T MOVE".
We were told not to say "POLICE DON'T MOVE", because too many cops would say it so fast it would sound like "PLEASE DON'T MOVE".
A bold, forceful command of "DON'T MOVE", might be enough of a command to stop a perp from continuing there criminal activity.
Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom Massad Ayoob!
My CCW instructor in Texas repeated to his class, "NEVER use the 'k' word (kill) always say, 'I wanted to stop his attack. I was in fear for my life." Wisdom.
Thank you Mr. Ayoob.
Your content is first class. Many points from these are used in training at my unit. I have an old 1911 maintenance manual with Bill that is in my youngest daughter's wish list along with my dads 70 series. Once I'm done with it of course.
Thank you very very educational and very well done.. You are truly a professional and we thank you...
This was light years away from being boring!
Mas… thank you! Much appreciated
If we refer to Ian McCollum as "gun jesus" then surely Mr Ayoob is our "gun moses" leading us through our 40 years in the wilderness with his humble wisdom. Thank you sir!
This is true wisdom, given freely and professionally. Thank you for giving great and thoughtful material.
You are so correct. Words being an eye witness matter. I was a witness of two very serious incidents. One a shooting and one a stabbing. The shooting was clearly self defense as I saw it and charges were dropped. The stabbing I saw events leading up to it not the actual event and charges were reduced. Giving clear and accurate details made the difference.
'The Meaning of the Words is in the Words" - I have followed this since my very early years as it applies to everything in Life! Just as I have followed You. Thanks for your contributions to Safety and Security, my Friend.
Thanks for the words of wisdom Massad.
I will always listen when this man speaks. I hope everyone does.
I have been deposed, and have served as a witness in court proceedings. Mas' advice is incredibly significant.
To find it in the morass that is YT makes it stand out even more.
Thank you
The manner in which Mas speaks, with great consideration and clarity, is something well worth modeling.
Excellent practical wisdom, as always. I appreciate everything you do, Mas.
Priceless information. Thank you.
Extremely beneficial advice and not which you hear often or as well presented. The wisdom that comes from experience is invaluable. Thank you.
Thank you for your message. Your right too the point. Carring a firearm is a awesome responsibility.
Thanks for sharing all your experiences and knowledge we greatly appreciate it
Such overwhelmingly important info, I appreciate so much that you pass your wisdom on to us. This for me is every bit as important as firearm skills. 👏
It is reasonable that even before you learn how, you should fully understand what, when, why, why not and the consequences of each.
Excellent comments
Your videos are always direct, definitive, and appreciated.
Brilliant stuff Mr Mas.
As a language guy, multi lingual many years overseas, somantics is key to safety. Ill add to that, that after a sift through the comments, the spectators agree that He defines use of a firearm with absolute distinction..
I really appreciate your teaching us the legal side.
Situational Awareness and Common Sense is your best weapon. 🎯
Words mean things, a wisdom that applies to all aspects of life, not just in gun semantics or law.
As usual, a master class by THE absolute master. Thank you sir,
Awesome information ,great presentation.
Thank you for sharing this with us and we appreciate you taking the time and effort.
I can only echo the comment before mine. This shared knowledge, this insight from Mas is real GIFT! Every protector should understand the significance of these words.
Massad in my years, 84, you are my standard as to a guiding light as to the approach for a final answer.
Thanks
I absolutely love listening to you and what you have to say as you are the most thorough when your giving examples. I also want to thank you for all you have done for others in the past as well as what you currently do. You have made a positive impact on this planet and I believe you have made a difference in your service and changed everyone's perspective for everyone you have spoken to. Your an amazing man and nearly the entire make population can take lessons away with them on hot to be a better man and remain a positive influence. I salute you sir.
As a student, this was powerful. Thank You Mr. Ayoob for sharing important thoughts.
Absolutely great advice! Especially in Texas! Thank You.
One of your best yet Mas. Such wisdom ,having seen the courtroom portion of OISs this advice is spot on. Thank you for this wisdom.
Words matters. Thanks for the instruction.
Here are pearls of wisdom. Thank you.
Another great video Massad. Love your videos and books. I've learned a ton from you, and I'm sure I've only scratched the surface. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge 👍🏻😁
This is one of my top 5 gun videos. Mass always delivers.