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    The rules of attack and defence that pilots used in WW1 dogfight encounters.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 266

  • @DanielWesleyKCK
    @DanielWesleyKCK 4 роки тому +95

    3:56 ... the subtitles are spot on.

    • @harleywylie2909
      @harleywylie2909 3 роки тому +1

      Yup, "...the Dicta Polka..."

    • @HoriaNeagu
      @HoriaNeagu 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for this!

    • @benzford0987
      @benzford0987 2 роки тому

      yes

    • @titantanic7255
      @titantanic7255 2 роки тому +4

      I looked at this comment and turned on subtitles just as I read it and this is what I got 2:58

    • @player-j7b
      @player-j7b 7 місяців тому

      💀💀💀

  • @ZemplinTemplar
    @ZemplinTemplar 4 роки тому +357

    They're early aircraft, but I wouldn't call them primitive or crude. They were very well made for their time.

    • @Argos-xb8ek
      @Argos-xb8ek 4 роки тому +5

      I'd have to disagree

    • @thinkandrepent3175
      @thinkandrepent3175 3 роки тому +21

      Along with Motorcycles and Autos, this was the height of technology, some of the early fighters were champion motorcycle racers.

    • @hopeyouaredoingwell4705
      @hopeyouaredoingwell4705 3 роки тому +3

      You cant deny that doesn't look like a very reliable aircraft

    • @chardtomp
      @chardtomp 3 роки тому +3

      The engines were the main limiting factor on the design of the planes. Because the engines weren't very powerful, especially in the beginning of the war, the planes had to be made as light as possible.

    • @ememe1412
      @ememe1412 3 роки тому

      All relative. More than a century later, these planes are primitive and crude compared to the modern, fly-by-wire, Mach speed fighters of this era. Even a sharpened stick was the height of technology and very well made for its time... at one time...

  • @LooseMorals100
    @LooseMorals100 5 років тому +49

    The slow pace of the aircraft must have been the most unnerving part of the fights. This video puts this aspect truly in perspective. The CGI History Channel WWI dogfights (a series which I cherish for its detail) seemed to portray these events as much faster paced. Here, you can thoroughly feel the anxiety of anticipation...Thank you for sharing something new in re-enactments...Bravo...

    • @billymanners9629
      @billymanners9629 5 років тому +1

      I believe that the Sopwith Camel (from 1917) had 60hp, hence why it was so slow and had to turn so gently to avoid stalls

    • @adamarndt2587
      @adamarndt2587 3 роки тому +3

      @@billymanners9629 Sorry sir, but you are wrong.
      This is the list of engines used in the Camels.
      As you see, the standard powerplant used has 130hp, and the most powerful has even 160hp.
      Bentley BR1, 150 hp (standard for RNAS aircraft)
      Clerget 9B, 130 hp (standard powerplant)
      Clerget 9Bf, 140 hp
      Le Rhône 9J, 110 hp
      Gnome Monosoupape 9B-2, 100 hp
      Gnome Monosoupape 9N, 160 hp

  • @kupokinzyt
    @kupokinzyt 4 роки тому +161

    I can just imagine what the people on the ground must have been thinking hearing the blank bullets go off and then the other plane starts smoking haha :P

    • @kkhagerty6315
      @kkhagerty6315 4 роки тому +22

      KUPOkinz
      “Wtf are they doing up there?”

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger 2 роки тому +5

      They're not firing blanks. It's just a sound effect added in post.

  • @Shards-of-Narsil
    @Shards-of-Narsil Рік тому +3

    That must have been really PTSD inducing with the activation of the smoke canisters, glad you made it out alive and in one piece.

  • @johannschmidt3389
    @johannschmidt3389 5 років тому +116

    It's all fun and games until the flare guns come out

  • @delavalmilker
    @delavalmilker 8 років тому +77

    Boelke's Rules for Dogfights sound very applicable to the business world.

    • @MiG2880
      @MiG2880 5 років тому +5

      That's because the 'business world' is inherently predatory. It is also the underlying doctrine of human society... Which explains why we're such a backward species. One which continues to make the same mistakes over and over again.
      We're like animals in the jungle. Unlike animals though, we don't act this way because we're incapable of thinking, but because we *choose* not to think. Our current way of life is a defilement. It is our most heinous crime as a species - and it will be our undoing.

    • @amsedzaferovic1679
      @amsedzaferovic1679 5 років тому +1

      @@MiG2880 Ah, i think it is a lot more complicated then what we think. I am no psychologist, i am simply saying what is the most plausible cause to me. How long have we already existed? Compared to the Dinosaur period it is just a very tiny amount of time. In a way our species is still acting like little children (or very young teens). We are a very stubborn race. If we would finally put our differences aside and start working all together then we can solve the problems we currently all have. And that is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.
      We should think more about how we can enhance the good things instead of being too nihilistic.
      Being nihilistic wont help to solve any problem.
      And animals can think. It is a misconceptions to say other wise. They merely live very simple and upon their instincts. Our instincts are still there as well and they always continue to exists. Instincts are our baseline guidelines while the intelligence is more or less an over complicated version of these instincts.
      Intelligence has two sides, It can create wonderful and good things but at the same time it can also destroy said things, often in the worse ways possible.
      I don't want to know how many civilizations in the universe has made the same mistakes as us before they could find a solution.
      If we want to save anything then we need to have a fine balance between our positive and negative sides.
      Little acts of good in our everyday lives shows that they are often the ones which can change the world for the better for all living beings on earth.
      Sorry for my grammar and i am sorry if i sounded insulting.
      But before anyone says that being a human is a hopeless existence just let me tell you this. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. As i already mentioned, those thoughts are not solving anything. Instead they create just more misery and madness. How do you want to better the world if you only think negatively and nihilistic.
      There has to be a balance between the positives and the negatives.

    • @MiG2880
      @MiG2880 5 років тому

      @@amsedzaferovic1679 Please, don’t mistake my comment for nihilism. I may be scathing in my critique of humanity, but it is only because I believe my species to be capable of so much more. Like you, I strongly believe that nothing is impossible for us... If only humanity were to transcend their primitive, predatory instincts, selfishness and ignorance.
      I agree with much of what you said. Humans are but children, with much yet to learn. But at this point, I believe they are more like children with guns... Unaware of the imminent danger they are in. Yes, they will learn in good time. But it’s questionable, whether they will have the time to mature that far - before succumbing to their ignorant destructiveness and destroy themselves. It would be such a waste.
      I can see this on the horizon and I am simply trying to prevent this destruction in the only way I can. I am sure that if humanity remains on its current course, it will inevitably end in disaster.
      I’m aware animals are substantially more intelligent than human science (in its arrogance) credits them with. I’m sure this kind of thinking makes it more comfortable for us to exploit, mistreat and kill animals without guilt or conscience.
      If we thought critically about it, then we might have to face the truth of our actions... And we can’t have that now, can we?!
      ... And that’s what i’m saying. Humankind seems to have an aversion to looking at itself critically. Preferring instead to be complacent, belligerent and sneakily deceptive... A textbook act of deep-seated denial. And it doesn’t take a genius to see that denial never has a happy ending. An inability (or unwillingness) to look facts in the face is a recipe for disaster.
      Whether we like it or not, humanity is now in control of our own evolution from this point onward. It is not the law of the jungle which will shape our evolution, as it was in the past. From now on, the only factor guiding our evolution will be our own societal and political influences.
      The environment which we create for ourselves is now the only factor guiding our evolution. Just think about that for a moment.
      It’s crunch time. We must decide whether we want to live by our animal instincts, or by our higher intelligence. If we choose the former, we will most likely regress. Our intelligence will becomes less central to our lives and it will atrophy. We will remain as we are until we reach critical mass. Destruction will inevitably follow..
      If we choose the latter, we must shed our primitive habits in order to avert imminent self-destruction. We must cease competing and work with nature, not against it. We must change in ways which seem inconceivable to most people. Nevertheless, this is what must be done if we are to continue.
      At this point, humanity has nuclear technology and Quantum A.I. (and god knows what else, hidden from public view). The societal structure of an ape is no longer sufficient for a species with this kind of power at their disposal. Our technology has developed greatly. But our social and political systems have lagged far behind - to the point where now, we are like apes with guns.
      We have all the power in the world and how do we use it?... To fling crap and acquire status and wealth over others. To dominate and control. Just as an ape would do.
      Now, i’m not putting apes down. I’m just saying that while they may be fascinating, sensitive and intelligent creatures, they are certainly in no position to handle nuclear technology responsibly. And that’s fine... But not so for us. We emulate ape-like behaviour in almost all things. Tribalism, territorial dispute, competing for status, resources, etc. Every single problem we have as a species can be traced back to this as a root cause.
      We humans are a devious species. We have convinced ourselves that attaching complicated terminology to primitive tendencies equals intelligence. But really, it is the same old animal behaviour, re-branded and repackaged to appear as something sophisticated, which it isn’t. Things such as ‘politics’, ‘economics’, ‘nationalism’, ‘military intervention’, etc are just thinly veiled acts of barbarism.
      And the scary truth is that very few people have even stopped to consider this for one moment.
      We have the capacity for so much more, but we choose not to improve ourselves. Instead, we stubbornly stay in this evolutionary middle ground. Refusing to address our own primitive failings.
      This *must* change. What I have said here is neither positive or negative. It is simply the truth. Perhaps, if humanity overcomes these failings there will be more positivity than we currently know what to do with... I welcome that day.
      P.S. Your grammar and tone are near-perfect. Sorry for the length of my essay, but I had so much to say :)

    • @amsedzaferovic1679
      @amsedzaferovic1679 5 років тому

      @@MiG2880 Dont worry. I know it is not easy to make short comments if you have a lot to say. I myself often cant quit writing when i am really onto it.
      And i agree upon all you have to say.
      Sometimes i wish that i could shake every politician (for an example) in the world, you know like Homer does to Bart, and tell them to quit fighting with each other over the most mediocre (is that the right word?) things. We all live on the same planet for gods sake. Stop act like little children and finally start to grow up.
      There has to be a way to make every country and all people to finally start working together for a brighter future. It is just so difficult to find a way to that solution. But will never stop believing that one day we will all be able to work together.

    • @davids1051
      @davids1051 4 роки тому

      @@amsedzaferovic1679 I always have this saying where I say that if aliens discovered earth they would not recognize the borders we drew they would just see us as humans on one planet. We should see the world in the same way.

  • @JayHeartwing
    @JayHeartwing 3 роки тому +63

    Imagine being the best fighter ace of the era, then you just died because of a friendly plane collission

  • @timokk3
    @timokk3 8 місяців тому +1

    This dude is a real hero, he survived a simulated WW1 dogfight. I would have died from fear just having to be a passenger in one of those aircraft.

  • @mnd1955
    @mnd1955 5 років тому +14

    I don't believe the Sopwith Triplane (flown by the RNAS) ever met Fokker's version in combat. The Sopwith version was being withdrawn and replaced by the Camel as Fokker's design was making an appearance. As for 'well-armed' the Sopwith carried a single Vickers .303 fired through the propeller. The Fokker carried two forward-firing machine guns.

  • @melancholymelon5316
    @melancholymelon5316 4 роки тому +14

    I love ww1 dogfights because they are really simple and yet brutal

    • @Impositivelygay
      @Impositivelygay 3 місяці тому

      You wouldnt love them if you actually fought in ww1, youre right about the brutality though. People often forget that ww1 wasnt a game

  • @SmokeyArt
    @SmokeyArt 8 років тому +94

    Welcome to Battlefield 1 flight lessons. Don't mind me, please proceed.

    • @readdeadlife
      @readdeadlife 8 років тому

      The most I had in BF4 Jet was 132-7. I used to hate lock ons. But now.. Cannot wait

    • @granola661
      @granola661 8 років тому

      +Smokive Co May I join the lesson?

    • @SmokeyArt
      @SmokeyArt 8 років тому

      Kopperston yes

    • @thomasbarrett5658
      @thomasbarrett5658 7 років тому

      Smokive Co don't worry about me I'm a battlefield 1 ace

  • @von1145
    @von1145 8 років тому +53

    Lol batman music at 2:27

  • @GregoryTheGr8ster
    @GregoryTheGr8ster 7 років тому +10

    I

  • @stephenmurphy2212
    @stephenmurphy2212 10 років тому +29

    "Spotted the fucker"?! LOL!

  • @lobsterworldwide
    @lobsterworldwide 7 років тому +29

    I've always found it hilarious that the German planes are Fokkers

    • @sharkoftheskies3256
      @sharkoftheskies3256 3 роки тому +2

      Theres a vr ww1 flight sim and I wanted my name to be motherfokker but the system picked up on my skullduggery.

    • @nualaseamus
      @nualaseamus 3 роки тому +1

      @@sharkoftheskies3256 maybe could have been mutterfokker

  • @ulise89
    @ulise89 6 років тому +10

    There are some pilots, such as red baron, that in some cases prefered to approach from below instead of coming from above. Because it's obvious, pilots can watch at 6 o'clock to check, and also 6 o'clock high, but they cannot see below the airplane, and also they don't expect this, usually they dive on the prey.

    • @eddymannock5376
      @eddymannock5376 5 років тому +1

      ulisse Pavalache This manoeuvre you describe allows you to scrub speed off so that you have more time to accurately shoot at the EA. Also it would protect you from any reward firing defensive MGs.

  • @clouds6414
    @clouds6414 2 роки тому +2

    Imagine going outside to go to work and you see 2 ww1 planes having a dog fight in the sky

  • @Rexerman89
    @Rexerman89 3 роки тому +1

    Very educational in the rules of dog-fighting..........RIP to the kraut pilot who wrote them.........

  • @joecronick4730
    @joecronick4730 9 років тому +56

    1:40 watch your language!

    • @fable2omg
      @fable2omg 9 років тому +6

      watch your profanity

    • @Zminchu
      @Zminchu 8 років тому +1

      +Overlord Soviet “Master” Dash Watch yo profamity

    • @JSMEsq
      @JSMEsq 6 років тому +1

      Joe Cronick I hope ur joking

    • @painiscupcake5433
      @painiscupcake5433 5 років тому +1

      Fokker right in the

    • @wellbeatemagain1904
      @wellbeatemagain1904 5 років тому

      Wallace? Dat u?

  • @RandallBriggs-s2k
    @RandallBriggs-s2k 4 місяці тому

    That's a funny-looking picture of Boelcke at 2:13. His right upper arm appears to be the thickness of a broomstick.

  • @MR-cr9bg
    @MR-cr9bg 7 років тому +5

    Great, gonna use these tactics in Warthunder

  • @momoqin9296
    @momoqin9296 3 роки тому +2

    The life expectancy is actually measured in minutes in the late period of the war

  • @AdmRose
    @AdmRose 4 роки тому +7

    The average life expectancy for new pilots is 20 minutes; everyone knows that.

  • @faramund9865
    @faramund9865 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for the tips, will be great for Battlefield 1

  • @aidanmercer9422
    @aidanmercer9422 4 роки тому +2

    I’ll be sure to use these tactics in BF1.

  • @droc9088
    @droc9088 4 роки тому +5

    This would be a great Laser Tag :D

  • @throttleblipsntwistedgrips1992

    One needs to know only one name to know how terrifying a Dr.1 was in a dogfight, Werner Voss. 8-1 odds and he brought down 2 aircraft and damaged two more before he was finally shot down. It took six aces to take him out. Six. If that isn't a testament to the aircrafts performance I don't know what is.

  • @doctorwhofan2336
    @doctorwhofan2336 2 роки тому +1

    this was my homework 😃

  • @benzford0987
    @benzford0987 2 роки тому +1

    yes

  • @RebelliousState
    @RebelliousState 4 роки тому +5

    Watch at 3:55 with the captions turned on lol

  • @paulyang2
    @paulyang2 8 років тому +26

    Can't wait to fly this on bf 1

    • @deejim4767
      @deejim4767 5 років тому +2

      Wow this comment is 3 years old, unfortunately BF1 servers are really dead.

    • @ellocoo2767
      @ellocoo2767 3 роки тому

      @@deejim4767 wow this comment is 2 years old

  • @nylereilly2637
    @nylereilly2637 6 років тому +4

    Why is The Dark Knight theme playing? 😂😂😂

  • @chiphull2909
    @chiphull2909 4 роки тому +3

    Imagine a paint ball dogfight 😳

  • @gregprouse1173
    @gregprouse1173 5 років тому +2

    Go and play on il2 sturmovik - you can play these planes with expansion - its so realistic - I highly recommend it - and great multiplayer.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 5 років тому +1

      Google "il2 flying circus"

  • @codyshi4743
    @codyshi4743 4 роки тому +2

    In nowdays, biplane or triplane dog fight sport, what kind of ammo do they use so that it won't harm the other flyer, but it instead created a smoke to let the other player know that they were hit.

    • @Gaizhun
      @Gaizhun 4 роки тому +2

      Neither of the aircraft actually fire anything. What you are seeing is a display team that flies ww1 aircraft. It has a predetermined outcome and the smoke is generated intentionally by the pilot of the "hit" aircraft.

    • @AleK0451
      @AleK0451 3 роки тому

      blanks and smoke machines

  • @synthwavecat96
    @synthwavecat96 4 роки тому +1

    "Flimsy, primitive aircraft"
    *shows a Dreidecker*

  • @mr.bandity9604
    @mr.bandity9604 8 років тому +5

    im using these tactics on bf1

  • @bostjans2106
    @bostjans2106 3 роки тому

    Autocaptions are a bit naughty when trying to do Fokkers :)

  • @vampolascott36
    @vampolascott36 Рік тому

    I was peppering a Be2 yesterday with Spandaus when his wingman rammed me and killed us both, in VR.

  • @anti2229
    @anti2229 Рік тому +1

    3:00
    What the hell is that caption. xD

  • @ShaneFlett
    @ShaneFlett 3 роки тому +1

    now I can travel back in time and do my part

  • @TheAmerican1963
    @TheAmerican1963 5 років тому +1

    According to accounts of Werner Voss, he literally flew his Fokker tri-plane sideways.....account for that..... :-)

  • @temasek65
    @temasek65 2 роки тому +1

    Magnificent flying machines! Wish the Ottomans had them too.

  • @Anygoodgames
    @Anygoodgames 2 роки тому

    Calling it primitive is like saying a locomotive from 1900 primitive.
    It's a amazing wonder of human ingenuity

  • @northernsines
    @northernsines 4 роки тому

    read subtitles at 2:58

  • @ChrisPBacon1434
    @ChrisPBacon1434 3 роки тому +2

    "I found it extremely exhausting" he just sat there.. like not flying the plane nor anything

    • @ratherbefishing4225
      @ratherbefishing4225 2 роки тому

      Try it some time, if you’re not used to flying in a small plane it can be very fatiguing, even as the passenger. Especially out in the elements and doing a lot of maneuvering

    • @ChrisPBacon1434
      @ChrisPBacon1434 2 роки тому +1

      @@ratherbefishing4225 well that's the thing, I can see why the pilot would be exhausted, from maneuvering and such, but the passenger just kind of sat there. Passenger doesn't have to twist around in his seat, doesn't have to yank the stick around, he literally just sits there. Probably similar experience to sitting in a porch chair on a windy day in Canada. Physically similar, because you wouldn't be in the air.

    • @ratherbefishing4225
      @ratherbefishing4225 2 роки тому

      @@ChrisPBacon1434 it’s like being on a boat, or riding a horse. You’re constantly resisting the movement of the airplane as it pitches and rolls, to try and stay in a comfortable position in your seat and dealing with the unusual sensations of flying on your system. It doesn’t sound like much but it is tiring unless you’re conditioned. The longest flight I’ve done in a Cessna is only 2 hours and I was ready to sit down afterwards. It’s not at all comparable to sitting in an airliner.

    • @ChrisPBacon1434
      @ChrisPBacon1434 2 роки тому

      @@ratherbefishing4225 well I've never experienced it so I guess I just won't understand

    • @ratherbefishing4225
      @ratherbefishing4225 2 роки тому

      @@ChrisPBacon1434 many flight schools offer “discovery flights” where you get to go up with an instructor in a small plane and get a feel for it, if you’re interested it’s well worth the fee even if you never pursue flight lessons beyond that🍻

  • @mizukihattori9716
    @mizukihattori9716 8 років тому +35

    With the British accent, it sounded like F***er Dr1(1:41)

  • @adrock_sokolov6570
    @adrock_sokolov6570 5 років тому +1

    Imagine people on the ground wondering why there are ww1 fighter and scout planes fighting each other to the death.

  • @northernsines
    @northernsines 4 роки тому

    subtitles at 4:01 too

  • @skynut38
    @skynut38 3 роки тому

    The subtitles are hilarious trying to translate Fokker! LOL Machine translation doesn't always work.

  • @Firebrand55
    @Firebrand55 10 років тому +7

    One more rule.......stalk before dogfight

  • @mguanipa2
    @mguanipa2 4 роки тому +1

    How the hell did u get the Batman theme in this?

  • @squirekev
    @squirekev 2 роки тому

    Gah, the auto-subtitles really do have a hard time with the German plane names. Probably accurate terms the Allied pilots used though. Pilots like Voss were just incredible at controlling these machines, but numbers matter, as a lot found out the hard way later on.

  • @Christopher28fair
    @Christopher28fair 5 років тому +1

    "Keep the sun behind you" Yeah sure, easy to say, but how can you do that, wobbling along at 90 mph? #2. Was it Chuck Yeager who had the 20/10 vision? Can't remember. I can't remember if he even fought in the war... (WW2) That's a hell of an advantage, though. I think Bob Hoover had good vision too - definitely superb flying skills. A lot of good they did him - he got shot down right quick. My point is... life is random. Chance plays a part.

    • @scootergrant8683
      @scootergrant8683 3 роки тому +1

      Well it is the main reason for the term beware of the Hun in the sun.

  • @madharry45
    @madharry45 10 років тому +5

    The term Kurvenkampf is better translated as a battle of curves, each fighter trying to turn and get on the tail of the other. Instead the narrator misses this and tries to explain it as taking evasive action in the BE. I also rather suspect that Anthony Fokker hadn't seen a Sopwith triplane when he designed his Fokker Dr I as it was only employed by the Royal Naval Air Service, but was called in to assist the Royal Flying Corp as their fighters were so pathetic they were being slaughtered at a prodigious rate. Oh well really nice to see those old planes in the air.

    • @LupusAries
      @LupusAries 9 років тому +1

      +madharry45 a pretty good translation thoug the best one is turning combat, kampf being the german word for combat.
      Schlacht is the german word for Battle...........though your translation was much closer and better than snows.
      As for the Dr. I well, it was designed as a reaction to the Sopwith Triplane, but it wasn't a carbon copy as the Inspektur der Fliegertruppen/Idflieg (Inspector's staff of the Aviation Troops) expected, it was an original design.
      The Designer Reinhold Platz did not like the idea of a triplane, and he originally designed it as a biplane.
      Only after Athony Fokker Pressured him, he did re-design it as a triplane.
      Which is visible as the Dr. I has some improvements, but also some deficiencies compared to the Sopwith, for example the Sopwith has ailerons on all wings, the Dr. I only on the upper wing.
      Also the original Dr. I did not have cables between the wings to strengthen them.

    • @madharry45
      @madharry45 9 років тому

      Kampf is also the word for battle as in panzer kampf wagen ie. a tank.

    • @gregb1276
      @gregb1276 7 років тому +2

      The Sopwith Pup pathetic? I think not! The Pup (in use before the Tripe and used to end the Fokker Scourge) was used almost to the end of the war, though increasingly outclassed from about April 1917 onwards. The Pup was a favorite of pilots. It could outturn a Albatros at high altitude and was both stable and nimble. After the Camel and SE5 appeared, they, too, outpaced the Sopwith Tripe. The DR1 never fought the Sopwith Tripe, so the reenactment is interesting though not very historically useful. BE2 was also retired by the time the DR1 came out. Still, the Tripe was probably not that inferior to the DR1 from what the specs say.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 5 років тому

      @madharry45 >>> AFAIK, the DR.1 _was_ patterned after the Sopwith Triplane.

  • @LupusAries
    @LupusAries 9 років тому

    The fight is a complete movie setup, for several reasons:
    a) the Fokker was in a perfect position to shoot for close to a minute and in range, around 100 metres of the Sopwith's tail.
    But the killing shot was delayed.
    Compare the Dr. I size to the tail at 9:48 and again at 10:41 .......and remember the upper wingspan is only 7,20 m which is less than a spitfire's 11.2 metres.
    Also at 10:39, the camera is looking up over the windshield at an angle of 20-30 degrees, and you're not looking straight at the nose of the fokker but slightly below, which means that he is aiming ahead.
    So he's got the position he's got the lead........
    b) The Fokker delays it's turn after the Sopwith starts to turn, giving away it's angular advantage over the Sopwith, it could've easily matched it.
    He's not following the Sopwith up into the Chandelle, but pulls away to the right and doesn't climb, 10:43-10:44
    c) On the start of the attack you can see him diving down, but then reducing his speed and his angle to stay in formation with them, negating his energy advantage.
    d) 11:18-11:23 another chance for a killshot, and despite Snow's claims, they aren't pushing it anywhere near the limits.
    You see no rapid changes of course, and because they are rather slow, those aircraft can change heading actually more rapidly than modern planes.
    It's one of the paradoxes of modern air combat, the speeds have gone up, but with it, the pace of Close range air combat actually has gone down.
    Oh and another thing Kampf does not simply mean war, but actually combat, the word for war is actually Krieg.
    Oh and the funny thing is, the germans itroduced Parachutes at the end of the war, but the allies didn't.
    Some of the armchair experts or as they are called in german Sesselfurzer (armchair farters) thought that it would induce aircrew to give up their aircraft to easily, when there was still a chance to save it.
    Tethered Ballon crews had been using it for years at that point and parachutes could've saved a lot of pilot's lives, giving them the chance to survive a mistake.

    • @LupusAries
      @LupusAries 9 років тому

      Reptillian Apprentice
      Thank you for being such a polite reptilian, but then one can make allowances for you being an apprentice.......;)
      Kindly read that coment again, it should be obvious that I know that the "fight" is staged.....I commented to point out just how staged.
      In a way it is like stage combat.
      The problem is that people that are that "retarded" to believe that this stage combat is real.
      Let's just say I do have a few bones to pick with Mr. Snow in regards to historical accuracy, he's playing a bit fast and loose with that in this series.....

    • @viktorbrndsted9912
      @viktorbrndsted9912 9 років тому

      LupusAries Oh yeah, my mistake, also if you're watching this for education you're doing something wrong, this is kinda more informative and showbizz, if you can call it that ;)

    • @LupusAries
      @LupusAries 9 років тому

      Reptillian Apprentice
      My sentiments exactly! ;)

    • @LupusAries
      @LupusAries 9 років тому

      Reptillian Apprentice
      And my excuses for being a bit snide....

    • @thomasgray4188
      @thomasgray4188 8 років тому +1

      LupusAries also why doesn't the sopwith just run away
      it's faster than fokker

  • @saamkapadia
    @saamkapadia 3 роки тому +1

    ”Pushing the planes to their limits” yeah no, ww1 dogfights were way crazier and faster then this, they would do dives, loops, hammer heads, rolls, spirals sharp turns and would usually be doing it at a height of 1 to 4 kilometers up in the air.

  • @craigshaw7659
    @craigshaw7659 5 років тому

    Always try and get behind the Fokker lol I knew what I thought when he said that

  • @malinko35
    @malinko35 3 роки тому

    1:40 saaay waaaaaaah xD

  • @BYDADVERTISINGDEPARTMENT
    @BYDADVERTISINGDEPARTMENT 4 роки тому

    4:00 ..the captions dude

  • @me.crunchy7181
    @me.crunchy7181 9 років тому

    The ace kills 5 or more yet manages to be shot down by a shiny new pilot.

  • @TheByteknight
    @TheByteknight 2 роки тому

    Is that Rocky music I'm hearing at one point...

  • @lifelessonswithme3814
    @lifelessonswithme3814 7 років тому +3

    1:41😂😂

  • @Josean1955
    @Josean1955 10 років тому

    La próxima vez que subas a UA-cam un vídeo tan bueno como este, procura subtitular, para los que no conocemos esta lengua, podamos traducirlo a nuestro país de origen.

    • @josezurita3742
      @josezurita3742 3 роки тому +1

      "El cielo está a punto de convertirse en otro campo de batalla no menos importante que los de tierra y mar [...] Para conquistar el aire, es necesario privar al enemigo de toda forma de volar, atacándolo en el aire, en sus bases de operación o en sus centros de producción. Será mejor que nos acostumbremos a esta idea y nos preparemos"
      Giulio Douhet en 1909.
      Giulio Douhet (1869 - 1930) fue un general italiano conocido por enunciar los principios y ventajas de la utilización del poder aéreo en la organización táctica de las operaciones militares.
      En el dibujito que representa una tuerca (Configuración) es posible adaptar los subtitulos al idioma al que uno quiere sea traducido el audio, así como la opacidad de fondo (de 100% a 0%) y el tipo de sombreado de los subtítulos ("estilo de borde de los caractéres; yo recomiendo la opción "Sombra paralela"
      Saludos desde Venezuela.

    • @Josean1955
      @Josean1955 3 роки тому

      @@josezurita3742 Excelente reportaje

  • @bladegrape7248
    @bladegrape7248 7 років тому +2

    Is that the batman soundtrack I hear?

  • @maxvonsteiner8894
    @maxvonsteiner8894 Рік тому

    the Real Red Baron would kick your Arses

  • @brianwyters2150
    @brianwyters2150 8 років тому +1

    What about hind turrets and before mounted machine guns?

  • @logofilm8644
    @logofilm8644 6 років тому +1

    1:41 Ho, Ho Hey, hey. Watch your language right there, OK.

  • @indielife192
    @indielife192 4 роки тому +1

    just thinking of people below scared cos of the fighting above

  • @blank557
    @blank557 5 років тому

    A Be2 is not a dogfight. Its a target for shooting practice. Lovely plane though, if you are not forced to fly in combat with it. The Sopwith Tripe, if flown by the naval pilots from back then, would not have been caught by German Triplane.

  • @paulcrombie9623
    @paulcrombie9623 7 років тому +1

    Why is there no memorial to these bravest of men?
    seems to me, that they are overlooked.
    I would be honored to dedign a memorial to these braveest of the brave.
    The don't seem to get the reccognician as to those who died in the trench?
    They tended to die alone, fell from the sky.
    Angels?

    • @teenwolf03ad4
      @teenwolf03ad4 4 роки тому

      People in planes are angles in human skin

  • @Jasongy827
    @Jasongy827 7 років тому +2

    Wow, it's like comparing contemporary airplanes compare to primitive airplane infancy. WW1 dog fights it's more raw, cruel, and more intense I bet.

  • @nigelwhite7706
    @nigelwhite7706 5 років тому

    Wrong Wrong Wrong, "the fighter ace" did not "appear" until 1915. Also by the time the Fokker DR1 was introduced into service the Sopwith Triplane had all but been withdrawn, unlikely they ever met in battle.

    • @daetoris4473
      @daetoris4473 5 років тому +2

      Come on mate, the First World War was over a hundred years ago now. Surely you don’t expect EVERY type of aircraft to have survived? Hell, we don’t even have a surviving plane of each type from the SECOND World War!
      So I think we can allow the production team on a historical documentary a FEW artistic compromises!

    • @nigelwhite7706
      @nigelwhite7706 5 років тому

      @@daetoris4473 the planes are from (Sir) Peter Jackson's collection - he has over 70 , so it should not be too hard to achieve historical accuracy, minor effort required with that choice.

    • @sopwithsnoopy8779
      @sopwithsnoopy8779 3 роки тому

      There were still a few Tripes in service at the front line when the Fokker F.1 prototypes were delivered to Richthofen and Voss. So it could've been possible, though I've never heard of the 2 types ever meeting.

  • @josezurita3742
    @josezurita3742 5 років тому +1

    "El cielo está a punto de convertirse en otro campo de batalla no menos importante que los de tierra y mar [...] Para conquistar el aire, es necesario privar al enemigo de toda forma de volar, atacándolo en el aire, en sus bases de operación o en sus centros de producción. Será mejor que nos acostumbremos a esta idea y nos preparemos"
    Giulio Douhet en 1909.
    Giulio douhet (1869 - 1930) fue un general italiano conocido por enunciar los principios y ventajas de la utilización del poder aéreo en la organización táctica de las operaciones militares.
    Saludos desde Venezuela.
    "The sky is about to become another battlefield no less important than those of land and sea [...] To conquer the air, it is necessary to deprive the enemy of any form of flying, attacking it in the air, at its bases of operation or in its production centers. We better get used to this idea and prepare"
    Giulio Douhet in 1909
    Giulio Douhet (1869 - 1930) was an Italian general known for stating the principles and advantages of the use of air power in the tactical organization of military operations.
    Greetings from Venezuela.

    • @jongalt9038
      @jongalt9038 5 років тому

      Gracias por eso- cuidete en el Venezuela- suerte y el amor de Diós para tí y a tu familia. Bienvenidos a los Estados Unidos, friend. 🌞

    • @josezurita3742
      @josezurita3742 3 роки тому +1

      @@jongalt9038
      ¡Muchas gracias! Thank you very much! El amor de Dios para ti y tu familia también. God´s love for you and your family too

    • @jongalt9038
      @jongalt9038 3 роки тому

      @@josezurita3742
      ¡Contígo Amigo! Y tu familia y todos alla. 🌹

  • @kevinconnor9676
    @kevinconnor9676 5 років тому +1

    i saw his happen

  • @koshersalaami
    @koshersalaami 3 роки тому

    If they could build a two-seater, why didn’t they put a sharpshooter in the second seat? If you look at the F35, one of its capabilities is for the pilot not only to be able to see spherically through the aircraft (special helmet) but to fire spherically. The newest Russian jets are probably more maneuverable, faster, and able to climb higher, but getting behind the F35 - or now, the F22, which can’t fire spherically but can fire behind itself - doesn’t mean game over. What hasn’t changed is the advantage of surprise, and that’s where fifth generation American fighters have an enormous advantage because of stealth and, again particularly in the case of the F35, in the sensor suites (detect the enemy first) and the ability to share data such that one fighter can target based on information coming from the radar of an allied aircraft. A lot of the debate about current fighters, particularly among laymen, is based on the assumption that we still fight essentially like pilots did in WWI which, until relatively recently, was true. Depending on what you’re flying, some of it still is true, particularly if you can’t trust your air to air missiles. We found this out in Vietnam where the lack of a cannon on American fighters turned out to be a real problem.

  • @AspiringD3v
    @AspiringD3v 3 роки тому

    war thunder looks great

  • @eddymannock5376
    @eddymannock5376 5 років тому +1

    I don't know which was more of a death trap the B.E.2 or the Dr.1. I had one trip as a passenger in the former feeling totally exposed as it floated along like a balloon in the wind, i was very glad to be back on terra firmer not having encountered any EA. Vowing never to do that again. And the latter Triplane I encountered twice, a dirty looking mottled coloured one (it was as if the paint scheme had gone awry); the other a bright yellow. I shot them both down with ease, diving down on them, shooting into the wings they promptly folded up like a dead mans hand at poker. As I passed the yellow one I looked over my shoulder expecting to see it in trouble, trailing smoke or whatever but it had vanished from the sky, completely gone. It had plummeted straight down. Dr.1s had hollow box wing spars to save weight and once these were damaged the entire wing structure lost integrity and snapped into. Unlike solid wing spar which were much more sturdy, so much so it was easier to shoot the engine or pilot to gain your victory.

  • @AAA1AAA1AAA6
    @AAA1AAA1AAA6 9 місяців тому

    Are they easy to land?

  • @admiralschroher2172
    @admiralschroher2172 5 місяців тому

    Imagine if this was a sport

  • @salvatorepitea5862
    @salvatorepitea5862 4 роки тому

    Yeah ,,that old guy Schooled you

  • @Radarmusiclab
    @Radarmusiclab 7 місяців тому

    Polish fighters called this "KurwenKampf"

  • @Thoralmir
    @Thoralmir 9 років тому

    I think I recognize the fight music from Rocky.

  • @ArisandBeth
    @ArisandBeth Рік тому

    How about trying Sopwith F1 camel againts that Fokker Dr. I

  • @azharabbas1580
    @azharabbas1580 Рік тому

    My. Grande father. Sepoy ghulam Ali in brtish indian army. In. Mesoputiana. Batle. Field. In 1916

  • @Potatoyam
    @Potatoyam 2 роки тому

    Are they actually shooting at eachother

  • @DubaMan195
    @DubaMan195 4 роки тому

    Turn on subtitles at 2:58 and watch family-friendly Dan Snow anger all the christians in a 200 mile radius.

  • @Patrickwd
    @Patrickwd 4 роки тому

    Still seems kinda similar to GTA O

  • @vaughanpower4538
    @vaughanpower4538 Рік тому

    Most pilots died before even having there first dogfight. Training mishaps.

  • @lobster2998
    @lobster2998 4 роки тому

    What about Richthofens rules

  • @TheFreedemian
    @TheFreedemian 10 років тому

    WoW.

  • @arthurmorgan7882
    @arthurmorgan7882 5 років тому

    Bf1 exactly

    • @icedice6393
      @icedice6393 5 років тому

      Its not at all like sitting on your ass playing video games.

  • @rodneymarsden3003
    @rodneymarsden3003 2 роки тому

    In what ways was the British tri-plane inferior to the Fokker tri-plane?

  • @muhammadalzarkauimarcelino4932
    @muhammadalzarkauimarcelino4932 5 років тому

    Em 1910 Esses aviões atingiam velocidades máxima de 140 por hora!! Agora em 2019 os aviões atingiam velocidades de 2400 por hora!!

  • @aManWhoWantsEverything
    @aManWhoWantsEverything 8 років тому

    OK I paused the vid just to ask this
    is he named fucker?!!!

    • @ren4121
      @ren4121 8 років тому +1

      no its Fokker

  • @santajettison8440
    @santajettison8440 4 роки тому

    whos is from mrs canos class

  • @toms_fishing7023
    @toms_fishing7023 4 роки тому

    Gta 5 tryhards in hydras and lazers

  • @iandrsaurri625
    @iandrsaurri625 8 років тому

    How did they do this without risk of death.

    • @pabmusic1
      @pabmusic1 8 років тому +4

      They didn't.

    • @iandrsaurri625
      @iandrsaurri625 8 років тому

      pabmusic1 I mean the bbc people who were flying the planes in this video, not wwi pilots

    • @NachoLibreFan-nr3jd
      @NachoLibreFan-nr3jd 8 років тому

      more than one person in the plane

  • @akbaruchiha99
    @akbaruchiha99 3 роки тому

    These guys using ALL the movie music smh