6 DEVS Compete to Make the BEST GAME for $10,000
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If we reach 50K likes we'll start another competition and raise the stakes even further!
make some more videos of you working on game like with your artstyle please
i think you should acutly make one were the viewers vote on who wins but so there is no bias dont tell them who made who untill the winner is decided
would also love one were the main theme is sacrifice's must be made
There needs to be some deep reevaluation in the voting system and how to create anonymity and fairness so that these contests don't turn into popularity contests. Game developing should be on the merit of the game not a 1 million + creator winning a popularity contest with a worse game
The voting was anonymous
Dryden absolutely dominated, the visuals, music, gameplay and lore were all up to par with a fully released game
true, yet i think it was a bit basic (2d platforming, being chased, parrying, rng + bosses) except for the well implemented themes and objectively good quality overall!
Yeah, I really don't understand how he lost. All the way through I've felt like they aren't showing us a lot of Immune Heart, because for me it would have definitely gone on the semi-finals.
@@user-oe3kz8ww7d I was really suprised too. Just imo Lixian's game didn't really have much depth, he mentioned 'lore' and then there was nothing, just seemed to be walking around. While Dryden's game looked really awesome.
Come off as unfair too with the community vote felt unfair too with how well known/liked Lixian is.
Lixian won because he's popular (he does video montage for Markiplier)
Yeah, Lyxian managed to create good horror experience. But I feel like Dryden created something more and death chasing after you is really cool mechanic, I would love for him to expand the game into this idea and develop it further.
Spoiler blocker❌❌❌
Ty!
You are the man
ily so much
Since spoilers have been blocked, here's my take.
Amongst the first 4 games chosen, one was definitely not in theme and thus disqualified in my opinion.
pin this
Lixian: has 1.3 million subs
Dryden: has 2k subs
Lixian: wins the community voting
Judges: **surprised pikachu face**
Yeah idk what they were thinking tbh
It pisses me off so much how Dryden was robbed
And Lixian works for markiplier , so even more of a community
scam
In the end it was a popularity contest
Actually insane how talented Dryden is. Props to all the devs but the amount of content he managed to get done is crazy.
Thank you 🙏 21 18+ hour days on pure adrenaline nearly was the end of me but it was worth it!! More content to come :)
@@LighthoofDryden Can't wait to see where it goes. :)
@@LighthoofDrydeninsane game! I was convinced you were the winner since the first week lol
@@LighthoofDrydenyour work is incredible and I could definitely see the game blowing up! I will be following to hear more about it. Should’ve been your win!
@@LighthoofDryden i wishlisted your game, i think it's very promising so can't wait for release
Insane Dryden did not win, the game was so polished and thought out, all the mechanics together made perfect sense, the implementation of the curveballs he was thrown fit it like they were originally planned, the artstyle was absolutely gorgeous and polished, and he composed multiple pieces of music.
It was the community thing exclusively. He won both because he’s more popular
It was so thought-out and planned because it was literally a copy of Spelunky. All the thinking was done earlier.
The guy who won, won because his game was 3D. Not discounting what he did at all, his game is awesome, but people see a 3D game and automatically think it's more impressive than a 2D game.
@@Weirdo_Studios775 As soon as I saw a throwback to the early Resident Evil games and their clones/ripoffs with that old-school lower polygon artstyle and pixelated 'crunch' in a competition starting with "Memento Mori" as a theme, I knew it was going to win. The combination of that style with creepy mysterious biolabs crawling with zombies is an absolute killer mix for anyone who played those games back in the day.
I will say, it was a very good execution on the concept, unlike a lot of shovelware stuff that tries to capture that nostalgia. I'm interested to see where the dev takes the project from there.
@@proximacentauri1172 A more boring version of Spelunky, that combat and movement looked dreadful
nah, Dryden's game was just better, Lixian's great, but Dryden's just fit best with everything
yup, unfair judging
I find it awesome that THE Markiplier’s editor is just casually here 😂 (I am aware he’s done some serious projects as well, I just have memories of him as the editor)
Yeah the community vote idea was dumb and having it worth 2 was dumber bc it literally just ended up as a popularity contest, and bc lixian has over 1 mil subs, he won even tho his game was nowhere near as good
Lixians was too much like doom the original, except doom had a better story and more quality gameplay.
@@jerrebrasfield4231 obviously doom is going to be better. They had a team of people and worked on it far longer
Don’t get me wrong, Lixian’s game was cool, but Dryden was absolutely robbed of this win. The man literally composed his own music for this game. He made such an original and unique game and I am dying to see him expand upon it.
I think it was a mistake including the community in the vote. Most average community members are not experienced with the time and effort that goes into creating these games, or what makes a good game. Plus, Lixian has a much larger audience than Dryden, so of course he is going to win the community vote. It turned into a popularity contest for people not games and that’s honestly so disappointing.
adding a community vote in this competition has to be the biggest braindead move ive ever seen. It would've been leagues more fair if they did what they did in the past with a past competitor vote
voting was anonymous. wasnt a popularity contest. I agree that Drydens was much more polished though.
@@super_sentai9998 apparently Lixian has his name in the file for the game...
"he made his own music" doesn't make the game any better. The lore was decent, it's a pretty cool concept and the bosses were cool along with the good-looking visuals, but the gameplay otherwise looked generic and the combat very bare-bones
@@Hietakissa Lixian had original combat? He didn't even have an inventory system and Dryden put in a whole skill and trading scheme
It is genuinely offensive that Dryden didn't win...
Stuck to theme, showed immense resolve in adapting to the modifiers, completely original art and music, boss fights!?!?
If it wasn't for the +2 from a community vote of 1.2 million, it'd be obvious.
Also crazy that that was a +2 in the first place.
right? like maybe if there was an even number of judges and they needed a tiebreaker...but to give the community vote the power to flip the result? shady af.
@@codyjorgensen8170 Even if there is an even number of judges to incorporate the community as a +2 is disingenuous at best. They should have incorporate previous competitors to cast a vote as well which I believe would have resulted in Dryden winning the competition.
@@michaelhooper1717 I disagree about the last part, but yes they should've kept it in mind that Lixian had a much bigger community (which I didn't know). I like that they are including community votes because I think it's important to have more opinions, but maybe they should only do that if both the creators have similar sized followings, and/or they should keep the game creators anonymous and ban any kind of advertising or giving away the fact they are taking part.
Apparently the identities of the devs were anonymous, though
maybe next time they should bring back past participants instead
PHEW, this was definitely the most intense few weeks I’ve ever done!
Thanks for having me on, what an honor to compete alongside these devs 😄
Your game looked PHENOMENAL and had my vote from the start - so glad to hear it’s being released!
You had my vote! Will look forward to steam release
You had my vote, excellent idea! Looking forward to buying the game when it releases.
No matter what, I personally think you 100% deserved the win.
The only other game that looked like it would compete lost to not carrying the theme well enough, which was fair. But I was so sure you had in the bag after that. I am shocked you didn't win. It was one of, if not the best and most interesting game I have seen in any of these competitions or challenges period.
It genuinely seemed like a game that I would buy and play.
Did a damn good job, especially incoorporating the themes given to you. I feel yours was the best with theme use and am looking forward to its steam release!
Next time keep the names of the developers hidden in the community poll to make it less of a popularity contest. Just show the games and let people decide based on that.
THIS
This for sure!
I still would have voted for the horror game. The visual style of Dryden's game isn't my thing. Generally the style he leans towards in these videos aren't my thing. So I doubt removing their names will change anything.
THIS
It may not be "your thing" but it's a better game. @@tiacool7978
Everybody knows Dryden is the real winner 🏆 can’t believe he didn’t get first place
Shameful they added a popularity contest with a popular creator in the mix. Really well thought out guys...
Judges should be the judges.. Not the community.
Please don’t let the community vote for the finale again, it was definitely biased. But both games were cool to see!
It could have been a community vote if it was blind and the names weren't associated. In fact, I even think it would be better than just judges, but having their names known instead of purely based on the games turned it into a popularity contest that stole all credibility from it.
@@sirsapphire3499 I agree
I also wasn’t a fan of how the interpretations were judged. Felt a little too direct and biased towards horror games some of the votes imo
The community voting was anonymus so there was no bias at all.
@@BananaMan-yx9fv apparently lixian's game had his name on the files.. Apparently.
Dryden 100% should have won that...
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Like god damn rigged
To be honest I was surprised that zombie game survived the first round but outvoting Dryden seems a little too much.
Bro thats what I was saying lmaoo, wanted the Airidas dude cause i wanted to see more of his game
Having a community vote turns to a popularity contest, instead of picking the best game. Dryden definitely robbed imo.
The only thing needed to fix it was make it a blind vote. It definitely could have worked if they didn't say who developed each one but since they did I 100% agree with you.
This really turned me off from the video like how was there no oversight on that not being a biased and ultimately tarnished vote that just turned into a popularity contest and not a game dev competition.
I still think a community vote is a bad idea. People aren’t likely to play through an entire game and rate objectively.
@@michaelhooper1717 Dude, we get it, stop spamming. You're on every single reply. People make mistakes, it happens, move on
@@michaelhooper1717 oh but it was an anonymous comunity vote
There is no shot Dryden did not win
I don't know if I believe it wasn't planned or backstage stuff happening. Also I don't think Bewky's game did what the challenged asked for at all.
Yeah it's kinda weird, the other game was good but Dryden's was a fully finished roguelike which looked a lot more charming
I would call rigged, but 70% votes from the community? just why and... how?
Whilst I agree that he had the more appealing game, I think you also forgot that Lixen also has a very polished, awesome game as well. Add that tot he fact that Horror games tend to be more attractive to UA-cam audiences and Lixen is very popular - it's not surprising. and both people need to be celebrated for their hard ass work. Cause I know you nor I couldn't have done it.
I don't think it was planned or "backstage stuff" that happened, I think there is one very obvious reason why Lixen won this.
The judges were in favor of Dryden winning, so it all came up to the people's vote, who is Lixen to "the people"? He is Markipliers editor and is very well known, who is Dryden to "the people"? Nobody really knows him like they do Lixen.
This just became a popularity contest when it went to the public...
I'm surprised the judges let Lixian through to the end honestly. I feel like there was popularity bias and the community voted for their favorite person rather than their favorite game for sure. Not to mention, Lixian's bias with Markiplier and Momento Mori just felt unfair in his favor too.
I mean, Lixian's game has no replayability, was unfinished, unpolished, and there were multiple complaints about it... Whereas everyone seemed to genuinely enjoy DisInherited and everyone, especially the dev, seemed stoked about that game whereas Lixian wasn't even excited or even sure if he'd finish the game...
I tend to agree, but I will say that the theme doesn't really benefit Lixian at all. Was it a nod toward Markiplier...who knows. But even if it was, it was an objectively very cool theme with unlimited interpretations that I think all the developers enjoyed working with. Maybe that wasn't the point you were trying to make with that piece.
Idk, I didn't know who Lixian was before the comments and I figured his game deserved its spot in the finals. The way he won over Dryden was highway robbery and unfair, though.
I thought Lixian's should've gone out first round for sure. It was generic and didn't even fit the theme that well.
I disagree I think that Lixian did a really good job with the atmosphere and story of the game, but DisInherited good probably be a type of game I would easily get bored of playing. Replayability isn't always better since games that are meant to be played once can be more interesting if done right at least for me.
I totally agree, I genuinely thought he was going out in round one with DW 😭
I AM SORRY but Dryden deserved to win, Lixian made generic ps1 aesthetic horror game with 3 (?) enemies, I am surprised judges chose this
Solid theme, solid horror, not boring, not confusing, well polished. It wasn't the most creative, but it was the most solid
@@richardcheung3232what do you feel dryden’s lacked in comparison?
@@donniewhat Drydens game was really good but it was unfinished so it felt unsatisfying to complete, lixians game was simple and fully complete
@@richardcheung3232 it didn't even have a map, can you explain how it was fully complete? I liked it a lot, but that claim seems egregious to me.
@@sirrah2458 As in it had an ending, drydens game didn't
As a Lixian fan, he made a great game but I whole heartedly believe Dryden should have won. His game was so much more fleshed out, polished, in-depth and unique.
Great video btw!
its just another 2D roguelike it doesnt compare to lixians tbh
lixian's game was a zombie shooter game, that is probably the most basic horror game I can think of say what you want about drydens's game but it's at least more unique than lixian's game@@Kurejy
idk about unique but sure, more unique than lixians fs, its not a revolutionary idea tho and 3D is still harder, 3D animations are harder to make than music is where i was going with this, TO ME its just generally better, i mean theres twice the amount of 2D games compared to 3D just on itch io, it looked like any other cave game to me sorry
@@Kurejy All of Dryden's music and art was made from scratch while Lixian's game reused generic models and animations. Lixian's wasn't a bad game, but the fact that Dryden made what he did from scratch alone makes it more impressive. Let alone the fact that it was more unique, more fleshed out game that tried more things. We expect more from games these days, and Lixian just didn't deliver
@@Kurejyoh my god I want to punch you so bad, making a whole 2D animation, music , sticking to the theme , lore is way more harder than one can expect. I know it since i’ve tried doing animation both 3D and 2D and i can definitely say 2D animation is harder for me AND PLUS WITH ADDED ORIGINAL MUSIC COMPOSED BY THE CREATOR?? Please bro you’re hurting my soul.
Community vote is not a good idea. Drydens game was just better. Community just saw the cool visuals of the horror game and voted. Not to say the horror game was bad but disinherited has so much more depth
That's not even the main problem with the community thing. Because they showed the names of the devs instead of just the games, Lixian was swinging with the power of millions of fans and working for Markiplier, Dryden has a few thousand subs. It legitimately stole the credibility of the vote and handed the win to the clearly not as finished or quality game.
Damn i really thought other one would win...
I knew as soon as they put it to the community he was fucked. Lixian is good but he has also got clout
The game that won seems much more visually appealing off first glance. Dryden's game seems like it needs to be experienced to see its value. definitely seemed like the better game after a 20 minute video, don't know what the community got to vote off though.
]@@ohurspecial5404 how do you even know that their name is even on it. So clout shouldn't matter
@@finn6492 Appealing? I found the other game waaaaay more appealing. The winner looked like a Nintendo 64 james bond game.
@@shadowhunter2 did they say that?
lmao everyone knows Dryden won. The amount of detail and complexity behind his game was incredible. I would have liked to see more of Lixian's game though if it actually was better
I feel Lixian's 1st person horror adventure appeals to a wider audience than a metroidvania-ish 2D platformer
@@Hietakissa I agree. I would more likely see myself playing Lixian's game if I found them both on Steam for free. I don't think the initial appeal should have much weight in this competition though. I would imagine it's hard to judge the games fairly when they are all so different
@@rainbowselectric so why do you think Dryden should've won if you'd rather play Lixian's game? Shouldn't that make it the better game in your opinion, and thus more worthy of winning?
I do agree comparing such different games is very difficult, especially when trying to be unbiased.
@@Hietakissa Dryden's game seems like a more fulfilling and complete experience if you were to play the whole thing. Also Lixian's game just seems like a walking simulator after seeing all the gameplay
Dryden what an achievement, I will buy this game. Don't let the second place disway you. You deserved the win, no doubt about it. But I guess some of the judges really like jump-scares.
The world feeling you built is top tier.
Thank you, that means a whole lot! I’m feeling more motivated than ever to finish and make the final game as cool as it is in my head 😎
@@LighthoofDryden fr watching the entire video i was thinking that its settled dryden would win it was perfect your game was perfect the music and all even in last challenge i loved your music and gonna sub and watch u now XD
@@LighthoofDryden your game was awesome has tons of replayability and is overall a game I could see spending a significant amount of money on. The other kinda just felt like an asset flip so not sure how you got second 😅
@@LighthoofDryden Yeah I'm hands down buying this game.
@@LighthoofDryden It genuinely seemed like it was the winner. In my mind I just "knew" you had won, but was shocked to see you didn't. The comments here reflect that.
Codeer was way too talented to mess up like that 😭😭😭
His first week's progress made him instantly my favourite, even though I understood the lack of theme. The minute that he changed it to Sci fi, it was nowhere near as charming and I knew it had no chance because there wasn't a theme at all really anymore.
Yeah he just didn't fit the theme though, silly way to mess up.
@@OhSoUnicornly But to me he's one of them that fit the theme the most ? Like, almost no game used "remembering the death" as a mechanic, and in his game you had to use the parts of dead animals to make new animals
@@alexandrerdnaxela I believe the specific translation though is "remember YOU must die", not "remember death". That would be memento mortis. Depends on the exact brief they were given but I think remembering you, the player, are mortal is pretty important.
@@OhSoUnicornly then nobody fit the theme at all
Thanks for having me! this competition was super fun and the video turned out great
I miss you bro, your my fav game dev UA-camr
The aesthetic of your game was awesome !
I miss your devlogs. Good to see you here! ❤
Make more devlogs please 🥺❤️
Seeing you in the game competition was defenetly a pleasant surprise. I always love seeing what you come up with, looking forward to what you'll make in the future!
Dryden's game is an absolute gem that seamlessly blends elements reminiscent of Harry Potter with its own unique concept, evoking a wave of nostalgia and excitement. In a market oversaturated with horror games, Dryden's refreshing approach is a breath of fresh air, poised to stand out amongst the crowd. Kudos to the developers for their outstanding work and the tough decisions they had to make along the way. Each game created is a testament to their talent and dedication. Congratulations to all involved for bringing such fantastic experiences to life!
Can you start writing for a major publication so I can ask you to so eloquently review Disinherited when it releases? 😆 please and thank you!
Absolutely! Writing reviews is currently my hobby, but I'd be absolutely honored to review Disinherited when it's released. I'm genuinely excited about the opportunity and would love to share my thoughts on the game. Thanks for considering me!
😍
Was this comment... written by ChatGPT? 🤣
@@Johnny511997 also what is he smoking comparing it to Harry Potter lol, apart from the fact that the main character has glasses
@@Johnny511997 100% it was lol.
Amazing job Dryden. Also as a mathematician, I especially appreciated the inclusion of Ada Lovelace ❤
That makes me so excited to read 😄 as the world’s okayest math user, I salute the work you real ones do 🫡
Dryden's was so obviously the better, more interesting, better themed, more fleshed out game. No disrespect to anyone else, honestly this was the most compelling set of games in any of these videos, Dryden was just insane. Sucks that it sounds like the community vote came down to the creator with the bigger youtube community.
This turned me off from this channel. I don't think I can look at these videos the same after that atrocity in the voting.
@@michaelhooper1717 bro i was annoyed at there first pass the game videos, they some how always find a way to mess it up every time. not to mention the mrbeast style clickbait and constant promotion. doesnt stop me from watching these tho lol
I love the cuphead style boss fights. Dryden was robbed 😔
His creativity is through the roof, he was robbed man.
How is this even possible?! Why I really appreciate the hard work and creativity of everyone, how is it possible that a very generic, unfinished, half-random, “horror” FPS with a very minimal relation to the contests objective can win from a game that looks almost finished and quite unique? While everyone can have their opinion and favorite of course, I find this very difficult to understand.
The community vote destroyed the fairness by making it a popularity contest. Lixian is known by millions and Dryden has only a few thousand fans. He was robbed by the vote because it wasn't anonymous.
I like how the major themes introduced to the games were part of the final result.
Computer- computer problems.
Chaos- let the internet decide.
Pirates- winner was robbed.
Did not expect that ending. Thought dryden was obvious winner.
NGL im kinda fed up with blackthornprod's implementation of these contests, especially after the community upset.
For real tho... idk how they do it but they manage to fumble the bag with every video somehow.
The fact that another generic ragdoll game made it out of round one blows my mind
@@aBennu seriously. it was so insanely bland. once you do every task... whats next? nothing.
**Spoilers in this comment**
I think lixian had a great game and I'll be upfront about my bias toward Dreyden's game, because the fact that community vote decided the winner rubs me the wrong way a little. Lixian is an established presence on the internet and it makes me wonder if clout had a lot to do with the community vote, over the actual games. Either way all devs in this competition did an amazing job and I'm no professional critic so maybe lixian's really did have more appeal to the masses I am unaware of. Still if community votes happen in the future I feel that the devs behind each should remain anonymous until after the voting period so clout doesn't have any sort of effect on the results.
Ok guys! Lets do a community vote: our contestants are...
-markipliers editoe
-over a milion subs
And..
-a dude
-2k subs
Very thought out
All they had to do was not associate a name to each game and the community would 100% have voted for the other one. That's all they had to do but sadly they didn't
@@sirsapphire3499doesnt matter, the guy can ask for votes on his platforms.
The way to go is no democracy.
This was the dumbest twist I could have seen. No oversight and a really underdeveloped concept. Before throwing big amounts of money that would genuinely be life changing for a small developer there needs to be more serious steps taking to create a fair environment for competition based on game development and not a popularity contest
Please remove the popularity vote, or at least KEEP IT ANONYMOUS 😢. It is very easy for audiences to vote for their creator and not their creation.. It definitely adds a layer of unfairness to the competition.
Community votes are ALWAYS a populatiry contest, what a disgrace. Dryden straight up made a fully fleshed out game that tied in very well with the theme.
Left the worst taste in my mouth. Dryden deserved a win and when a smaller game dev receives this amount of money it is genuinely life changing. I hope blackthorn prod does better in the future because this was disgraceful.
Vote based off game developing > vote based off popularity
I want to buy Dryden's game and play it on my switch for a couple of hours or days!
dryden has been a real fresh of breath air, also that chess game as well, he got real talent and polish when most of the other people had games that looked janky af. lixians game also looked polished enough, world and animations of the shark was cool, combat kinda jank. nice vid, more of these
Dryden came up with a unique gaming concept, while Lixian created a classic horror game with subpar animation. Dryden excelled in crafting lore, gameplay, and level design, although the latter wasn't perfect. Dont get me wrong, Lixian's game was good, but I believe Dryden's was much better overall.
Glad to know im not the only person who felt dryden had this in the bag
I think it’s pretty obvious to everyone without a previous bias that Drydens game was better, Lixian simply had more subscribers. Dryden would’ve one, but the community vote idea was dumb, rigged and robbed him of his rightful win.
How did Dryden not win??? his game blew all the others out of the water.
Also Airidas should definitely have moved on from the first round.
Because it was a popularity contest, people know Lixen they don't know Dryden...
lixeon is the editor of markiplier so ofc he wins the popularity contest
Having a 16 year old compete with all these dev's that have years of experience is a bit rough.
I think it would be nice if you maybe did a "Young dev" competition, where you stick a bunch of under 21 or under 18 year olds together
Yeah, the dude is def skilled, and he has fun edits, but yeah having school is rough
I agree with the idea, but thers also alot of devs who start later in life. Maybe a comp where people with 1 to 2 years of game dev and hten one where its people with 3+ years of game dev
@@Orginal_NoNipz That would be very difficult to actually vet though...
@@meepswag35 I mean, adults have jobs and a household to take care of, so I don't think adults have more free time. I think it's more a matter of hobbyist vs full time independent game dev.
Having anything to do with under 16 or even under 18 years olds is risky
i dont - what? that doesnt seem right. and why did lemon vote for the horror game? im so confused
every other dev was losing as soon as Dryden made that character model bro, they literally never stood a frickin chance against Drydens masterpiece of a game.
JUSTICE FOR DRYDEN
it was literally just a popularity contest then? Lixian's game seemed like something i would play once then be lost in my library. not much depth , while Dryden 's game seems like something i could sink hundreds of hours into while looking for lore (lore that i feel like is better than Lixian's game lore) but because of the community of game devs which know Lixian as the cool Markiplier editor (which he is, but that should NOT decide who wins) voted for him, his, simple horror game won? #JusticeForDryden
Dryden is incredibly talented and it shows every single time.
Big fan
Honestly, this series is the main reason I subbed to this channel, the amount of wonderful games that are being made while shouting out these amazing devs and their own projects, I've found so many games from different devs through this channel, hoping to see more of this content! :D
Reading the comments, I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt unsatisfied by the judges decisions.
Personally it feels like Dryden should have won, while I was curious to see where Lixian was going to take his game Dryden had the more complete experience and his game felt like it stuck to the theme better.
Both are good, but Dryden's felt better.
You guys should really consider making voting anonymous for the devs especially if you're going to include the community, and I think the rest the comments explain why. Lixian has been seen by TENS OF MILLIONS of people through Markiplier. He is a recognizable creator just through that alone. So if you're allowing to put the community to put in not one, but two votes, there is a HUGE chance of community bias. It would also be more fair for Lixian because then he would be judged for his dev chops alone.
That said, I absolutely ADORE Lixian as a person, as an editor, and as a developer. I would love to see more of him on here. I cheered seeing him. He's hilarious and he did hold his own. But I don't think the voting was entirely fair.
I came back to see if there was a response to this. Looking into the comments, it seems the community poll was anonymous although one commenter claims Lixian's name was in the zip file. Going forward, I think it needs to be stated in the video that community votes are anonymous, and make sure that the creators names are nowhere to be found in the file or in the game.
@@KhroMcKrakkenLixian had his name in the credits of the game, so all testers knew it was his game
Yo wth Dryden better get compensated for this.
I hope Dryden puts out devlogs or something for his game! Lixian's game looked great, but I wonder what would've happened if it was anonymous. Dryden's game seemed to fit way more with the theme!
Keep up these videos though. They're super fun to watch!
No disrespect to Lixian, but he got a gimme +2 for having more than a million fans compared to a few thousand. Dryden got completely robbed and if the community vote hadn't been a popularity contest that +2 would not have saved Lixian's frankly unpolished and unfinished game compared to a basically 90% complete roguelite with *way* more passion, effort, and replayability.
That was a complete steal for someone with millions of fans, especually being associated with Markiplier, and as others have mentioned the theme stacked in his favor because memento mori was the theme behing Markiplier's now deleted channel Unus Annus.
Awgh, I’m so annoyed Disinherited didn’t win! The amount of polish and mechanical consistency was insane. It looked so much fun.
The submissions should have been anonymous the public. Theres no way Dryden lost
I thought Drydens was way better, in all honesty lixians was my least favorite concept of the last 4
Completely robbed. I usually love watching these videos but lixians game wasn’t even close to Dryden. Dryden has everything you want in a game, a story, actual working game play, cool item mechanics, and more. There was also some other questionable eliminations that made no sense, where you have some better games and the other still incomplete games made it through complete bs
I was baffled by the vote ultimately coming down to a popularity contest. Really shameful behavior
Hell nah drydan ate this competition up idk how yall didnt see that but bro had a whole releasable game
Dryden’s game looks amazing, waiting for him to release it !! Good job to all the devs
Thank you so much for having me guys!
This was very stressful but super fun.
Love you lixian say hi to markiplier from me ❤❤❤
hi markiplier's editor
You are more than Markipliers editor to me your the lord and Saviour of marks channel to me, Happy havin' you in the comp MaR_K.s__E0-D_it - OR. ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html&start_radio=1
Kind Regards - Kooper?
A game made my Markipliers editor :O
Joke aside,
hey lixian, looking forward to your next game dev video!
UNUS ANNUS UNUS ANNUS
im amazed at the polish of Drydens game in such a short period of time
Dryden definitely should have won
Dryden's game looks like something I would actually try playing. My favorite games are open-world RPGs and action roguelites/likes and when the dev of a game openly admits there's ample opportunity to become completely broken from a combat perspective, I'm immediately interest. As well done as Lyxian's game is, it's too reminiscent of 10000 other Under $10 horror games. And given that it's Lyxian, he could probably publish his game for $5 and make the prize money off sales just due to his following.
Amazing work Dryden !!! Your work really stands out to me amongst the other projects. I love the hand drawn animations it feels very polished. I also really like the cup head esque bosses where each one has different mechanics to overcome. So much love for your project keep working on it please!
The suits are so off brand 😂 such a disconnect
this is what I was unknowingly thinking all along
It feels like their wardrobe was inspired by Columbian drug dealers turned legit.
thought I was the only one confused by the suits lmao
Dryden should have definitely won, he worked with the themes much better, and even made his own music. His game also had much more depth to it, the only reason he lost is that Lixian has over 1 million subs while dryden is a small youtuber. The community vote shouldnt be a thing, it was biased as hell. Dryden, you may have lost the competition, but you definitely won in our minds.
I'm not going to lie, everyone put their heart and soul into their respective game...but Dryden definitely had the most complete, thoughtout, and theme relevant game in my opinion.
THERE IS NO WAY.
I was so sure Disinherited was the clear winner, I thought the finale would be too boring cause everyone would vote for it. I am absolutely baffled, it was such a unique concept with a an extremely clear vision. Sure the other one was great as a one time experience horror, but Disinherited was so much more than that.
Their story wasn't even comparable, the use of the themes was better, SPECIALLY the computer one. It had a really cool aesthetics and a variety of different settings.
Like am I crazy? The horror game was good, but Disinherited feels like something that could become a roguelike classic in the right hands.
Edit: Alright this has nothing to do with the post, so you don't have to read it, and I know this sucks and I hate to be doing this. But I am only human, this comment has gotten a little bit of traction, and I have to be shameless and say I actually make videos on this account, mostly about anime and stuff. I would appreciate if you looked to see if any of them may interest you. Sorry for this shameless addition, I know I am lesser for it lol
The horror probably made a greater impact at that moment, I agree that it probably won't again , it was a one time thing, I was actually shocked too, I wanna play drydens game , it looked fun
Lixian has 1.3 mil subs
Dryden has 2k subs
Draw a conclusion
I felt the same
Absolutely agree. I wishlisted Disinherited before I even finished the video. The handdrawn, 2D aesthetic of the game was beautiful. The addition of his own music was incredible. The thought process between the bosses. Like someone above me mentioned.. having the community vote when it’s 1.4m versus 2,000 just simply isn’t fair. If you take the community out of it, Dryden was the right choice, which the judges made.
Yeah I'm casting my vote with my wallet I'm buying drydens game when it releases the other one I'm not even gonna try I feel like it just doesn't have enough at all.
the win was stolen!!! but in all seriousness good job to both finalists.
Blind community vote next time so that it's not a popularity contest please! That way the Devs can't win on popularity.
I'm not sure, but I don't think they told them who made the game, they just asked them to vote on one of them.
@@bricked2557 Check the poll again while the names aren't listed I doubt they put them labeled as game 1 and game 2. also Lixian used his iconic figure in the video and hes a creator with over a million subs. If they made the vote based off the dev presentation videos then there is a clear biased displayed. If they blindly gave them the games to download and play and they voted off that then that could be a fair polling. Bottom line tho popularity contests leave a bad taste in everyones mouth and should not be applicable in a game dev competition
@@michaelhooper1717I think they could download the file, but lixian had his name on the file and his name in the credits
I really appreciate that you guys aren't milking this into ilke 5 videos like most channels would do. Great quality content, keep it up!
Lixian game was okay, but Dryden made much better production. Even though I'm not a fan of this type of games, the way everything worked together and created the atmosphere was amazing.
It's a pity that the final result looks the way it does, because personally I think Dryden deserved to win, of course without belittling Lixian because he also did a great job
Having Memento Mori with Lixian here aswell is reaaaaally funny. Rip Unus Annus.
I thought I was the only one to remember tbh unus annus
Lixian picked a brilliant art style/vibe that I think benefitted his game a lot, Dryden clearly IMO the far-and-away most talented human and most holistically awesome, mechanically sound, well-thought out game of the challenge. Guy totally deserved the win for me
Justice for dryden
Dryden did it the best. A polished and creative game you won't see on SteamDB worst releases list.
That is wild - the fps was literally every generic horror game. Disinherited put so much work into the theme and built lore to support it. Y'all just voted for asset shark jumpscares... I do not mean to be rude or hateful but I think the infection game wasn't worth a 10k prize....
WHAT❓‼️ this has to be the biggest robbery in yourube contests history aint no way, im sorry but dryden teally REALLY deserved that win its not fair to do a community poll it just turns into a popularity contest, here is the thing both games are good but tbh as a indie horror gamer I’ve grown very tired of them psx1 style horror games with comically large items that arn’t realistic meanwhile drydens game had so much depth, original composed music so much replayability and insane character/map design, the boss were dome so great, so next time leave the devs name out of the poll so its not a popularity contest, WOW BIGGEST ROB EVER DAMN…
I believe Dryden was the only one who did the best job of staying on topic, all games were great but only Dryden and (I think it was) Moonleaf REALLY stayed on topic. I am proud of Lixian for his win but I feel like bringing in the rest of the community, it was likely only bias, as his game was not fully on topic. Hopefully we get to see all these games fully fleshed out but I imagine its not always easy for these developers so 🤞🤞
I'd love to see some female developers represented on your channel too.
GGs to Lixian and Dryden, but honestly Dryden won in my books. I'm a sucker for roguelikes!
first round was exceptionally better than previous vids.. and dryden, dude, what a POG game
I feel like Lixian's Game could be really awesome, if it would had a better movement and inventory mechanics. Also the Gameplay seems to get boring really fast.
So i don't understand how Dryden didn't won. His game had it all and more!
Kinda sad to see Lixian only winning, because he has a bigger fanbase.
There were very special people in highschool that God just blessed with these amazing attitudes, humility, and buoyancy. It is very rare that i see one nowadays but Dryden is one.
Dryden got completely robbed, I can understand the community voting for lixian game but 2 judges voting for him?
Dryden game at the semi final stage was a better game than Lixian on the final.
I love my short experience "low quality" horror games but dryden was the clear winner on this one
Dryden should've won
Lixian's game leans way more towards what I usually like in videogames but in their current state it was an absolute joke that Dryden didn't win, thing was more polished than other games I've actually paid money for, what a beast
Dryden was robbed so hard. Wth even is that. The guy wrote his own music, had 3 bosses, a whole item system, and upgrade system. Dryden basically had a whole game. And Lixians suprise was what? An upgrade system? Won by jump scares and popularity. Note to all competitors to go far in future, just make a horror game. What a disappointment.
Details about liaixan game- two jumpscare total~
1. Zombie(just run and scream😑)
2.shark( comes out of no where?how shark learnt to fly?)
And shotgun without ammo rounds. And character using is like having experience in wars and he is doctor or scientist. That's it. Nothing creative. Nothing unique.no inventory. Nothing interesting bosses like deyden. But still won. Wow what a unfair challenge.
An observation I probably should've realised sooner, but did this channel just go full reality show? Not sure how I feel about that…
Edit: Regardless of what many might think, “winner takes all” is a terrible prize distribution.
The intentional timing of Dryden being up a vote only to have it taken away by a popularity contest is the trash tv that I wanted to escape by watching these videos. Really a shame
Dryden did an AMAZING job. The energy and effort put in
How tf did the unfinished ahh game won 🤦🏻♂️
literally looked like he spent all of a day on that game when Dryden cooked a procedural generated gem with 3 complete bosses and a fun rogue like system. Lixian barely squeaked out a working game with just a few jumpscares
Lixiens game is one of those thousands of videos from like ISP games, where the entire game is summed up in a title.
Disinherited was more like a fully fleshed out indie game that could actually build a community of fans due to the fact the game is amazing and replayable.
I have no idea how Dryden didn’t win, disappointed honestly.
I think this group of makers all did a good job, my final vote would have gone to Dryden though, his feels more like a fully fleshed game with a concept, and just needs added levels, Lixian's still needs a lot of work, and he didn't address the concern about how straight forward the combat is. (adding a shotgun isn't enough) , heck it doesn't even have as many unique enemies as Dryden, which is something that is more needed in a fps, nor a level boss or anything to really trigger progression. The game absolutely has potential, but it's not really locked down into anything yet.
Love how the theme was basically the rennaisance version of "Yolo dude" and everyone went like "okay, let's make something about life sucking"
I'd love to see more play testing. A longer sit and play session. As well as the other devs playing the others games. Could get more content out of it and it would be a much needed addition
Dryden’s game should’ve won imo. I’m glad he decided to continue development on Disinherited. I’m interested in it and anything he does in the future
Dryden in the semifinals blew me away. With a game that has no technological computer elements, I thought it would be hard to implement computers or technology as a new theme. Not only does his fix for the problem prove me wrong, but the technological section he added adds such a cool and unique twist to an already great looking game!