Dankjewel voor dit prachtige leven -en hoopgevend gesprek! We hebben jullie nodig... iedere dag mindfull met elkaar en de wereld omgaan en geen nieuwe " verhaaltjes " verzinnen. We "verhalen" genoeg. Laten we inderdaad indalen in ons lichaam en de aarde respecteren. Ook dankjewel voor jullie broodnodige boeken. 😊🎉
Zinn is talking about experiential knowledge as opposed to Academic knowledge. Experiential is by far preferable. It is also the only liberating knowledge.
The organic "like" button was the most basic "survive" option. It gave the most simple organisms the power to continue to be alive by gravitating toward food or safety and away from scarcity and danger. Now we see the evolution of that early organic "like" mandate for survival into a digital permutation that we fear may now be maladaptive for survival.
To address Zinn's final point I will put forth that humans (certainly Americans) need to replace our Big Story from being (LOL) one of religion or science. We need to begin relating them both with spirituality and, to that degree, I believe Quantum Physics (The Tao Of Physics) to be our best vehicle at this moment.
Tao Te Ching cautions us to be careful of what we allow into our head. What we pay attention to and grant a degree of reality. My Meta page has no "news" or hateful channels on it so the algo gives me mostly positive memes and channels. As I scroll I am reminded of better ideas than hateful ones. In this way the algo is more positive.
Thank you for a good conversation. I would like to add that in the buddhist world view there are 5 elements instead of 4: Earth, Wind, Fire, Air and SPACE. Space is not empty. There must be room for space LOL. English can't even say that
Mr NOAH I Realised that EVERYONE of us should learn to develop humility Compassion gratitude Forgiveness ( I AM unable to Comprehend) Healthy Relationships with Respect Responsibility Resilience Relience HONESTY with Integrity Discipline and Order Discernment Unconditional emotional support with patience FOCUSED COMMITTED attitude to develop Healthy Connectivity Healthy Boundaries along with Dignity of labour Globally ESSENTIAL.and to be implemented in all educational institutions including all universities Globally. I think Children are precious. Health is Wealth. Everyone of us is responsible for the present condition Globally.
Mr NOAH YOU are CORRECT. Mr NOAH I Realised that I am a frog in the well after 21 Years of education and 50 years of experience in Medical Profession.I AM hopeful that Human element is not missing Human element is glowing.
The one thing we humans have that AI lacks is consciousness. We have long believed that our minds make us the most powerful species. Now that AI has reached PhD-level intelligence in all fields, it is time to reconsider what makes us human.
Not your main point but, as someone who trains large language models (which really should not be called “AIs”) on PhD knowledge in various fields, I assure you that they do not have PhD-level intelligence in all fields. what they have is the ability to put out plausible sounding answers in all fields, the accuracy of which varies tremendously. To give more accurate answers in any expert fields requires the models to receive hands-on training from experts. The only abilities that these models have innately is to mansplain on any topic.
@@loodog555so what about the emergence of new capabilities by merely scaling up the numbers of parameters? Does that just improve the ability to gather up and sum up input data? I thought some kind of "reasoning" came about in the process of scaling orders of magnitudes.
Does anyone (including the panel speaking here) see the irony of experts talking about other people resisting what is, while they, themselves are resisting others who resist? And each wanting to talk over the other. I’m not complaining or resisting that. I just witness the irony of it.
@@SandeepKulshrestha LOL you have it too, sorry to hear that. I'm saying that if you can't use the verb "trump" without making a passive political comment, your spiritual practices aren't working and you are not someone who I'll look to for spiritual guidance.
I dislike trump but I'd have to agree with OP on this one, only if that were true... However until now I've just heard him say 'trump' twice, hardly every 2 minutes...
Please look up one Yuval’s best speeches on the conflict in Middle East. Meditation is what our leaders need to practice in order to make the right decisions. Meditation rids of emotions of fear and I can tell you, fear and past stories on both sides has led this disastrous conflict to the monster it has become today. Meditation is the answer. ua-cam.com/video/Uncfi9cgZWo/v-deo.htmlsi=SQsiH9UA53IojTvD
Yuval Harrari, darling of the global elite, is a genocide apologist. He critiques everything - eco destruction, the power and pernicious impact of social media companies - but not a single word about Capitalism. He is a fraud of the highest order.
@@loodog555 the whole point of meditation is to understand that thought runs humans, mostly mindlessly. You get good at it and you see thought is as automatic as breathing or heartbeat. So thought is the waterfall and when you're meditating you are between the waterfall and the rock. What I want Yuval and John to mention is the first principle of Buddhist practice is non-harm aka ahimsa. And to talk out loud about how difficult it is for Yuval to see meditating changed his life but not his country. It would be progress to see three men who get it grieve, get angry, talk about how they manage the madness of war. And how to start planting seeds of peace.
Or better yet, how has meditation helped “you guys” talk about the Jihadist mentality of wanting to eliminate the great state of Israel, and exterminate Jews and Christians?
I can't believe that Speaker used that negative term used to demean the Irish:"PADDY WAGON!" He really needs to educate himself and apologise to this group of people.
This man is highly overrated and unfairly praised. He only scares us with what the richest and most influential people within the Davos meetings will all organize in their own country, exactly according to his recipe book!
You missed the point... He spoke about the capacity to suffer. That means that you can feel. Your cat can feel. But an AI is not able to feel anything. To create is not exclusive to men or consciousness. Also AI can create, surely more than I can do. 🙂 Every robot in a factory creates and creates and creates...
The 1 telling if I fast his given 1 million Q u said his Brian is a garbage how what did u want it from his brain u couldn't get it wondering his brain is garbage or ur can't get it
An extremely essential conversation and talk to have this time and age of chronic distraction and apathy.
I wish I could fill my days with this kind of conversation every day -- thank you!
Dankjewel voor dit prachtige leven -en hoopgevend gesprek! We hebben jullie nodig... iedere dag mindfull met elkaar en de wereld omgaan en geen nieuwe " verhaaltjes " verzinnen. We "verhalen" genoeg. Laten we inderdaad indalen in ons lichaam en de aarde respecteren. Ook dankjewel voor jullie broodnodige boeken. 😊🎉
Zinn is talking about experiential knowledge as opposed to Academic knowledge. Experiential is by far preferable. It is also the only liberating knowledge.
You might enjoy delving into Ken Wilber and his theory of the four quadrants...
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@@sabiduriavariaenespanol good advice
The organic "like" button was the most basic "survive" option. It gave the most simple organisms the power to continue to be alive by gravitating toward food or safety and away from scarcity and danger. Now we see the evolution of that early organic "like" mandate for survival into a digital permutation that we fear may now be maladaptive for survival.
Like aemeobas (sp?)
Good observation
This is not cult discussion. On the contrary.
Yuval must be heard for betterment of our world
To address Zinn's final point I will put forth that humans (certainly Americans) need to replace our Big Story from being (LOL) one of religion or science. We need to begin relating them both with spirituality and, to that degree, I believe Quantum Physics (The Tao Of Physics) to be our best vehicle at this moment.
Tao Te Ching cautions us to be careful of what we allow into our head. What we pay attention to and grant a degree of reality. My Meta page has no "news" or hateful channels on it so the algo gives me mostly positive memes and channels. As I scroll I am reminded of better ideas than hateful ones. In this way the algo is more positive.
super super conversation..thank you
Thank you for a good conversation. I would like to add that in the buddhist world view there are 5 elements instead of 4: Earth, Wind, Fire, Air and SPACE. Space is not empty. There must be room for space LOL. English can't even say that
Mr NOAH
I Realised that EVERYONE of us should learn to develop humility Compassion gratitude Forgiveness ( I AM unable to Comprehend) Healthy Relationships with Respect Responsibility Resilience Relience HONESTY with Integrity Discipline and Order Discernment Unconditional emotional support with patience FOCUSED COMMITTED attitude to develop Healthy Connectivity
Healthy Boundaries along with Dignity of labour Globally ESSENTIAL.and to be implemented in all educational institutions including all universities Globally.
I think
Children are precious.
Health is Wealth.
Everyone of us is responsible for the present condition Globally.
Mr NOAH
YOU are CORRECT.
Mr NOAH
I Realised that I am a frog in the well after 21 Years of education and 50 years of experience in Medical Profession.I AM hopeful that Human element is not missing
Human element is glowing.
The one thing we humans have that AI lacks is consciousness. We have long believed that our minds make us the most powerful species. Now that AI has reached PhD-level intelligence in all fields, it is time to reconsider what makes us human.
Actually one more: emotions and our ability to connect and feel with, for and through each other.
Not your main point but, as someone who trains large language models (which really should not be called “AIs”) on PhD knowledge in various fields, I assure you that they do not have PhD-level intelligence in all fields. what they have is the ability to put out plausible sounding answers in all fields, the accuracy of which varies tremendously. To give more accurate answers in any expert fields requires the models to receive hands-on training from experts. The only abilities that these models have innately is to mansplain on any topic.
I work with LLM’s as well. Probably because I can put out that plausible info as well 😂
@@loodog555so what about the emergence of new capabilities by merely scaling up the numbers of parameters?
Does that just improve the ability to gather up and sum up input data?
I thought some kind of "reasoning" came about in the process of scaling orders of magnitudes.
Thanks! Interesting
Does anyone (including the panel speaking here) see the irony of experts talking about other people resisting what is, while they, themselves are resisting others who resist?
And each wanting to talk over the other.
I’m not complaining or resisting that. I just witness the irony of it.
There's a good reason interviews are usually one on one. Just sayin
A "one on one" interview/discussion on Climate Change is stupid. As is whether the Earth is flat. So 'one on one' is..........
I agree. 3 on a stage is one too many.
Jon goes on and on and on😝
Huge fan of Yu all and great respect for his intellect!
I wish those two would be quiet more and let Yuval talk more.
Ai is driven and controlled by 1 or two mad men, that's the danger.
What date is this
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meditation is just another word for thinking imho
I like these hosts and all, but they don't give yuval enough space to talk things through.
Some will say, a staff!
Distracted by the giggling of the moderator, also his hums and interruptions are irritating.
What are these two guys disturbing with laughter?
it´s the fault of the audio-producer who should have mute the in-signal of the one not speaking. Basic but not the case here.
This reminds me of my reaction in 70s to ‘future shock’
So disappointed :( Jon Kabat-Zinn whom I admire with WEF lackey Harari. Such a shame...
Jon could not go 2 minutes without revealing some Trump derangement syndrome. Discrediting.
You actually think that Trump should be given credit for something?
@@SandeepKulshrestha LOL you have it too, sorry to hear that. I'm saying that if you can't use the verb "trump" without making a passive political comment, your spiritual practices aren't working and you are not someone who I'll look to for spiritual guidance.
I dislike trump but I'd have to agree with OP on this one, only if that were true...
However until now I've just heard him say 'trump' twice, hardly every 2 minutes...
@@siddhartha_1 are you a supporter or just talking about non judgement in general?
Agree.
UN poster boy
Lopez Margaret Anderson Sarah Taylor David
Omg someone tell those two people to just shut up and listen
Just how has meditation helped any of you guys talk about Israel's genocidal thinking right now? Nada zip.
Please look up one Yuval’s best speeches on the conflict in Middle East. Meditation is what our leaders need to practice in order to make the right decisions. Meditation rids of emotions of fear and I can tell you, fear and past stories on both sides has led this disastrous conflict to the monster it has become today.
Meditation is the answer.
ua-cam.com/video/Uncfi9cgZWo/v-deo.htmlsi=SQsiH9UA53IojTvD
Yuval Harrari, darling of the global elite, is a genocide apologist. He critiques everything - eco destruction, the power and pernicious impact of social media companies - but not a single word about Capitalism. He is a fraud of the highest order.
If you’ve come here hoping for political exploration, you’ve basically just stumbled into a barber shop asking to calculate an integral for you.
@@loodog555 the whole point of meditation is to understand that thought runs humans, mostly mindlessly. You get good at it and you see thought is as automatic as breathing or heartbeat. So thought is the waterfall and when you're meditating you are between the waterfall and the rock. What I want Yuval and John to mention is the first principle of Buddhist practice is non-harm aka ahimsa. And to talk out loud about how difficult it is for Yuval to see meditating changed his life but not his country. It would be progress to see three men who get it grieve, get angry, talk about how they manage the madness of war. And how to start planting seeds of peace.
Or better yet, how has meditation helped “you guys” talk about the Jihadist mentality of wanting to eliminate the great state of Israel, and exterminate Jews and Christians?
WEF harari 🤮
Great. Atheists reinvented the Commandments, Christianity and prayer. 😂
The laughing of the moderature irritates a lot.
I can't believe that Speaker used that negative term used to demean the Irish:"PADDY WAGON!" He really needs to educate himself and apologise to this group of people.
Boy, 1 hour and 17 min of conversation and you pick up on that? Pretty petty, no?
Schwab puppet and mouthpiece 😅
The devil wears Prada 😅
This man is highly overrated and unfairly praised. He only scares us with what the richest and most influential people within the Davos meetings will all organize in their own country, exactly according to his recipe book!
Not a fan of this type of cult worship.
Why are you here?
Mindfulness is not cult ma'am. It helps in our healing
It may not.@@SandeepKulshrestha
I am curious of what you mean by this
Probably has zero self awareness is why they feel as though it’s a cult💁♀️
Consciousness is not to suffer but to create. 🎉 bye bye Harari 🤮 probably you have already been chipped
You missed the point... He spoke about the capacity to suffer. That means that you can feel. Your cat can feel. But an AI is not able to feel anything. To create is not exclusive to men or consciousness. Also AI can create, surely more than I can do. 🙂 Every robot in a factory creates and creates and creates...
no one said consciousness is to suffer. you better try to listen a bit more carefully.. unless- have you already been chipped.
The 1 telling if I fast his given 1 million Q u said his Brian is a garbage how what did u want it from his brain u couldn't get it wondering his brain is garbage or ur can't get it
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So disappointed :( Jon Kabat-Zinn whom I admire with WEF lackey Harari. Such a shame...