🌟Even the most brilliant people forget the essence of existence, the nature of life itself: EQUILIBRIUM, HARMONY, THE BALANCE. Disharmony is the truth of harmony and balance, because unbalence based on and results of balance. 😉
Oh, sure, the cell phone joke is Vance's private business... And so is it when I'm on my period or if I've had a medical procedure etc etc etc. Also, I don't hear about any couches fearing for their lives because of a joke that no one knows if it's true or not. Come on now. Stop coddling White Supremacists.
The secret of the colonizers is their ability to convince their targets to prioritize their words higher than their actions.When they are successful at this, their targets become dysfunctional in the management of their own daily lives
One reason this is such a fascinating interview is that Mr Melber actually read the book. Two very smart people having one of the best exchanges of ideas I have seen in years on mainstream news.
Two, smart people? Who is more intelligent here? Considering one man is an American traitor and the othere clearly hates America, and they both convince you America is bad. Genius
He got my attention with this statement “truth tends to be complicated and uncomfortable “. Very thought provoking conversation. I hope he is a returning guest.
His books. His books are astonishing. We will never be able to get the breadth and depth of his intellect with interviews. ALthough, I do hope for more and ravenously devour every interview he gives.
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@@lornfantI see you're a fan. First I've heard of him. Refreshing.
I recommend EVERYONE seek out his book "21 Lessons for the 21st Century." It is a great read (on paper or audio) and has affected the way I approach thinking about almost any important topic in my life.
As well we can see here we have an example of Harari‘s point: don’t look at the real statements, but rather look at his background and to which side it gives advantages.
@@AC-ed1jz this isnt propaganda. It's a conversation about how humans are influenced by propaganda. You cant call a conversation propaganda when the very goal of the conversation is about avoiding propaganda. Listen to the conversation again. If you think this is propaganda Id be curious what kind of intellectual content you consume that you dont consider propaganda because it appears to me that you are simply trying to avoid extracting anything useful out of this convo and are set on lumping it in with all the typical noise that is on TV.
@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT if you truly study sophisticated propaganda and the people that engage in it then you would know that this talk and the network itself is on air for one purpose only.
@@martinleuchs5403 We know who professor Harari is and we have our famous quotes from his books. This is not a propaganda, Harari, actually, represents the exact opposite of it.
Thank you so much, Ari Melber, and thank you so much, MSNBC. This is the best interview, the most educational interview, I have ever heard. And I am 69 years old, from the days of Walter Cronkite. And yes, vote Harris/Walz, and we need more Democrats in the Senate and the House, as well.
Yeah Harari is not a great guy and a lot of the things he's been involved with recently is deeply disturbing, I am surprised to see so many commentators lauding him, especially when he seems to be pretty obviously a Zionist and an actual genocide is going on.
Yes I thought MSNBC had given up on erudite coverage
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First off, erudite and msnbc are mutually exclusive. 2nd, folks like Harari and M Gladwell are notoriously ill-informed and write drivel merely disguised in compelling prose. This is the antithesis of erudite.
I love Mr. Harari and his scholarship. I'm going to run to the bookstore for Nexus! Thank you for introducing me to it with this scintillating conversation. Ari, you are wonderful! Thank you, gentlemen. 💯❤️🙏🏽
Hat's off to Melber, one of the best and most intelligent interviews I've seen in.... thinking about it... yup, my whole life. This is journalism, this is interviewing, I want more of this. 30 straight minutes of real talk. Thank you!
Ari , this gentleman historian , is like listening to my mom and dad . And many of my aunts and uncles . Friends of my parents . And teachers I had back in the 1960s. I miss them all . And I look forward to reading this gentlemans book .
@americanpatriot6484 you’re talking slabout Trump’s takes in the debate I presume? Not about Yuval Harari… that gentleman is more educated than you and I will be together.
Sadly, the ones we want this to reach, don’t have the capacity to pay attention to the content or understand the complexity of the context. At most, they live on TikTok length content.
@@utubes720 a few months ago I would have agreed with you, but after the Kenyan months long protests led by tiktokers and GenZs for better governance and neoliberal policies. I can't say I hold the same view. Information is out there, how a society chooses to use it (without government interference) speaks to what they place value in; at that moment, but other factors make a difference too.
@@dianeatpeace337 And that’s why the Republicans have called it “biased radical left wing propaganda”. The Republicans have also been trying to eliminate funding for PBS and NPR for many years.
This explains why EVERYBODY lies we see on the news. All the newscasters, all the politicians etc. Trump lies, Kamala lies, the news anchors lie. Ari did a beautiful job.
Absolutely brilliant interview between two fabulous people. Thank you Ari for such a thoughtful interview, and blessings to you Yuval on your contributions to the worldwide discussion. Bravo!!!
Older people are more likely to accurately READ, and less likely to use tik tok. Unfortunately, we'll die off and you'll be left with the tik tok generation - the something for nothing generation whose ambition is to get rich quick. And while the historian says media misinformation isn't unique to America, it's RIFE in America for a reason: the average Brit reads, on average, 11-18 books per year. By contrast, the average American reads less than one. This should be worrying in a country where the average person has access to guns! This means, the average gun owner hasn't even read a book about guns! This begs the question: Where are Americans getting info.? The gutter media and any source which supports their bigoted ideas.
Exactly. Everyone needs to hear this. We all believe we have the truth, and that it is the othet guy who is wrong. America needs to be more united, less opinionated. No one actually possesses the truth. They ALL lie.
For sure, I was immediately impressed, that’s not easy these days… The world needs more critical thinkers to sort out problems, there’s so much noise in the mix.
I think his book "21 Lessons for the 21st Century" is a terrific introduction to his work. I've given it as a gift to a number of young adults who, once they read it, described its lasting impact on their lives.
A fantastic job by Ari would have also included the other strongman, along with their deceptions and misinformation deployed for the purpose of gaining power. The Hunter Biden laptop is a stunning example. But of course Ari can't do that; he works for a bias network. So a piece that highlights just one candidate and ignores the lies and misinformation of the other is by HIS very definition Propaganda. How is that doing " a fantastic job" ? A Fantastic use of Propaganda? This is laughable!
Harari said that for the people in Israel and Gaza who “have suffered tremendously … your mind is so full of your own pain that any attempt to even draw your attention to the pain of somebody else feels like a betrayal”. So, he said, “in a moment like this, we entrust the possibility of peace to outsiders”.
Something I've said for years, until they have peace for generations, the middle east cannot have peace. It's a vicious circle that today's violence just fuels the violence of the future.
Entrust the fate of others to outside forces may be possibly the worst idea. The Palestinians are NOT stupid people, nor are the Israelis. Certainly there are fanatics within both of them, people who cannot tolerate any religious or ethnic differences. Truth IS complicated, not "yes or no" especially if someone else steps in to judge and make those decisions.
Yes, they HEALED THE WOUND OF MY PEOPLE LIGHTY ... Saying "PEACE, PEACE" (when there WAS NO PEACE), Please see JEREMIAH 8:11 + 9:24 "The LORD EXERCISES KINDNESS, JUSTICE& RIGHTEOUSNESS".. (Amen)
Such an interesting conversation between Ari Melber, very good journalist and Yuval Noah Harari, very good historian ... a real jewel in the news jungle ! Congratualtions to the two of them !
I concur with Yuval Harari that the algorithms employed by large corporations should be accountable and bear responsibility. The paramount truth ought to consider the well-being of humanity in all aspects. This is my approach to simplicity.
Agreed. Anybody who holds a position to influence the masses should absolutely be held to a higher standard and expected to be truthful in everything that they do. Media should be expected to tell the truth. The Republican party doesn't even have to have policies anymore, they run late and lies and mainstream media helped to create their false reality by pushing the lies. They should be held responsible but when the only punishment is money, there is no responsibility to the rich to do the right thing. Fox pushed the 2020 stolen election lies that led to an insurrection on our state capitol, they were fined $750 million dollars and they're still pushing lies.
@@americanpatriot6484 WEF mouth piece. They don't know who he is, coming from the guy who says we can be gods. The pictures of Jesus breaks the commandment of no graven image.
8:45 He was doing fine until he said there was no description or images of the one they call Jesus. The Bible is a black history book from Adam, Moses, Pharaoh, Salomon....
I didn’t hear him speak about the failure to develop amygdala. Antisocial disorder is biological. It’s not hereditary… it’s rooted in children brain development & stressing out kids during amygdala development that shuts down the synapses from forming due to emotional trauma. Americans especially, treat kids like mini adults from birth. Their brains are failing to develop the amygdala… leaving only the base brain (reptile brain) emotions of survival. In a survival mode, the self is all that is important & only the mother/child bond has any value but only on the short term. Everything becomes about the self, deceiving others to serve the individual, & even entertainment becomes all about gaming the system & dominating others. Public schools no longer enforcing discipline & failing to socialize kids is the largest contributor to antisocial disorder becoming a pandemic. Civilized behavior has broken down because more & more people are missing a functioning amygdala. This critical organ of the brain will literally shut down in kids who experience emotional stress without periods of recovery & healing. It’s a result of constantly bombarding kids with negative emotions & never resolving the emotional crisis the child is being forced to hide in order to be accepted. We are literally cultivating psychopathy by refusing to accept that children are emotionally fragile & require careful nurturing. Parents don’t socialize their kids anymore. They expect strangers at school will do that for them. The focus is only on money. Parents think money purchases their way out of raising their kids. In the past real life actually stressed kids out, especially males. War, poverty & lack of medicine/healthcare were the worst culprits of childhood stress. Now it’s other kids bullying & tormenting while being inundated with violent content in media, etc. Its insidious. Our amygdalae are simply no longer being developed in greater rates than ever before. We have emotionally dysfunctional people preaching to us that feeling nothing for others is a new evolutionary advancement & even a spiritual movement.,. The latter being absolutely ludicrous. But this is the increasing push of a majority that are missing their amygdala. They even suppress this information about the amygdala & child brain development as a way to keep normalizing apathy & narcissism & advancing antisocial disorder as a new advanced way of thinking. Scapegoating in families, as you are describing, has become increasingly common. The person in the family who has a normal emotional range becomes the scapegoat. Antisocial members of the family lean on each other to normalize their amoral behaviors & ideologies. But the root cause is the missing amygdala that failed to develop in childhood. Without a functioning amygdala the narcissists have no ability to communicate with reason or rational concepts. They will talk circles around a person with feelings & convince themselves & others that a person who has emotional normalcy is inferior. To the narcissists, their lack of feelings is not only normal but superior. The FACT that they lack a critical organ in the brain never comes up. That’s why you have been kept from this information. Look up the work of Dr Adrian Rayne using MRI scans to see the missing amygdala… then look up the biological facts of how the amygdala develops during childhood. It’s the big secret of our times. I too am a scapegoat. I could not heal until I answered WHY. This research freed me. I hope it helps someone else as well.
I am experiencing a great deal of cognizant dissonance about what I am supposed to understand and believe about WE THE PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE need truth to make a more perfect union ESTABLISH JUSTICE, Provide for the COMMON DEFENSE, and promote the GENERAL WELFARE WE THE PEOPLE, Led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. AT THIS POINT.! WE THE PEOPLE have done so much, for so long, with so little.! WE THE PEOPLE are now qualified to do anything with nothing. 1863 SLAVERY became illegal. OUR LEADERS with H1B is expecting to continue playing the game with indentured servitude. Because: WE THE PEOPLE are too stupid to see what is going on. WE THE PEOPLE EXERCISE OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to gather peaceably and REDRESS OUR GRIEVANCE on "x" formerly Twitter, AS THE PEOPLES OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER PEACEFULLY AND REDRESS OUR GRIEVANCES.
I just read his "childrens version of sapiens, to my 7 year old son. It blew our minds. His writing is funny, really adepted to the thoughts of children. This man is a jewel for humanity.
There’s so much information out there when people buy into information they feel they’re right and will argue with the facts that they know whether it’s actually factual. People need to be ‘right’ thusly cannot listen to something that is contrary to their ‘knowledge’.
Only because Yual adds sugar to to a complex discipline. If people won't even listen black historians or any other historians from marginalised communities, the only reason the media listen Yual is because he looks like them, if he said that, fade to black.
I agree with you. But imo-sadly most of the population only want the clips, sound bites and memes. I look forward to reading the book, I hope you do as well.
Ari, you are brilliant. I would like to hear from your guest a bit more, fewer interruptions...I'd listen to an even longer interview, with more of your questions, more guests answers. Love your interviews!! Intriguing.
Smart cities, smart meters, smart phones, smart lights, smart cars, smart electronics, I would say their plans are coming along well. Tracked, traced, tagged. Havari did say "Freewill is over"
Wow…great interview. Love this author - so cogent and clear…need to rely on these people for “the truth”, not slimy politicians or self-interested billionaires…
I hope people apply what he said. It starts with all of us looking in the mirror and admitting we aren't as objective and unbiased as we believe. We can be wrong. Truth IS complex. I didn't like the TRUMP bashing either, Trump doesn't lie anymore than everyone else . Kamala lies, MSNBC lies often.
The context and references don't seem weird and random to you? Out of interest, are you on medication or friends with people in authority who act above the law??
Don’t worry you’re about to get a lot more of very soon! Very soon he shall lead the world into peace just as the Bible states! Many will love the Antichrist!
If the said truth is subtle, it's also more complicated than a strightforward, simple statement. Subtleties add complexity and usually a need for context, so it is nearly a sinonyme for complication in itself. To illustrate, the definition of "subtle" is more subtle and harder to grasp in itself than "truth", "lies" or "simple".
Am fascinated by the level of this discussion. You don't find such conversations in major news networks around the world, only in niche spaces. Thank you for this!
Wow, just wow. Best interview I've seen on UA-cam - intellectual, insightful, and still totally accessible. Kudos to MSNBC and Ari Melber for bringing this to us.
Ari, Thank you, for having READ "Nexus" first!!! I am an author and after years of tv and radio interviews, my interviewer has The rare times my interviewer has had the time and the interest to have read my books first, the viewers were given such superior results! And NOW this is so very important!! Thank you.
Weird how Ukraine was GOING OFF when Obama was president and when Joey was the leader that conflict started right back up.. but we democrats support war in 2024 💩
It's such fun to stretch head a different way & Not just Bloat it with the news of the day. THINKING is part beyond KNOWING, which is important too..... cheers
you should listen to his lectures about human free will. Youll probably end up with nightmares. No surprise to me that this is "the favorite historian"
Really interesting - thank you. Just one gentle criticism: please don’t interrupt! I was very interested in Harari’s comments about modern leaders lacking time/space to ‘go deep,’ for example, and he was stopped short. But other than that - brilliant!
I just watched this tonight. One of the most interesting intellectual discussions I've heard in a long time. Two very smart men in an engaging conversation, not talking about sports, music or cars. Thank you!
Really glad I saw this interview. Yuval Harari is very captivating in his way of thinking. I can understand why Obama really likes him. I think you asked very thoughtful and provoking questions Ari.
Best piece of information I have gotten....."Observe Your Breath" I am 74yrs.old.Thanks for asking the question Ari. Yuval... thanks for your answer,it has saved my life many times in the last few years!
What a captivating conversation and a breath of fresh air. The way Mr. Harari carefully chose his words & the thoughtful conversation between him & Ari. It's just a nice change of pace from today's political landscape. More like this, please.
I could have listened to the both of you for hours. Im going to order the book as soon as Im done listoning to this also. I found this interview to be refreshing, interesting and easy to understand. Thank you both .
This is all very challenging and eye opening. I may have to watch this more than once. I will definitely look in to getting the book. Thanks Ari, great show!
Ari, this is deep and complicated, but so very interesting. My hope is that we will see you diving into more such fascinating subjects after the election. Conversation between a couple of intellectuals is rare today.
I’m old enough to remember when we sarcastically said “well, it must be true, it was in the newspaper. “ But the power of the digital age of misinformation is exponential.
That's why we need to be humble and acknowledge we may not have the total picture. Everyone has such strong, entrenched opinions and believes they are right. It's foolish.
msnbc Is the worst one! Biden lying about the laptop . Russia collusion.. you have to watch other countries news .. and make your conclusion. USA is now like Russia.. and a Democrat is the worst one to use Miss information
The internet was originally promoted on the basis of an uncensored exchange of views and information, in the naive belief that any liars or conspiracy theorists would be marginalised and wither by natural selection..... They have become all but the leading lights.
many years ago I remember seeing a film (National Film Board of Canada) that was called "Making The News". It was about News Media people traveling to Central America to get stories to feature on the nightly news cast. While in Central America they encountered a number of small, insignificant events/stories none of which would merit putting on the News. So they cobbled together several of these smaller stories making them into a larger story that woud get people's attention. And that story was what went on the National News that night. THAT'S when I realized that I could not believe everything I saw on TV because some of it was manufactured. These days, with the internet it is even MORE IMPORTANT to employ critical thinking and skepticism when confronting all the 'information' being presented as 'truth' when most of it is NOT TRUTH. Now, if you want the truth or something closer to the truth you are better to find someone you know and trust who lives wherever the event has happened and get their take on it. But remember even that will have bias.
there were laws, that held if the press knowingly lies to public they would face consequences , Im not sure if these have been just weakened or tossed. With the illogical decisions being made by the courts I would not be shocked to find they have neutralized the rule
Yuval really laid out the whole situation of our current political climate by highlighting how the information technology of the day has such a profound impact on society. The concept of democracy being a conversation and a dictatorship is just one person dictating everything…brilliant
Dr. Harari is one of my favorite authors. As an academic myself, I like that his books aren’t overly academic. They’re written very intelligently & w/ an abundance of research but w/o the jargon of academia which turns off most readers. I always strive for this tone in my academic writings, too. What’s the point if academics only write for each other? I’ve ALWAYS felt we should be writing articles & books, especially in the social sciences & humanities, that anyone can read & understand. Trudging through exhaustive tomes & treatises in grad school made me despise the grandiose language & snobbery of most academic writers. Purposefully writing dense, almost incoherent, texts to be picked apart by confused grad students for decades to come while they chuckled demonically at their cleverness. Ugh. Great interview w/ a most interesting author & academic. 🌏✌️
maybe Harari would say that was about those people seeking power. And they got it. Their dense tomes, assigned to their students for decades, made them powerful. And made a little more money on the side. Ah the American Dream, eh.
Let's not forget education... The accessibility to widened fields of education... the sciences especially... has 'enlightened' many people...and as the importance of education and critical thinking is receding.... we are entering challenging times....
A very prepared Ari doing his flat out best with his intellect, Weltanschauung, and his vast knowledge, barely keeping it toe to toe with a very self-restrained, nearly omniscient Yuval. I will watch several times. Interviewing at its zenith. A journalistic jewel to behold.
Let's not make them into God's. They had a great discussion. Very interesting and educational - flawed by inane partisan politics. EVERYONE LIES would have been an honest, and interesting title, instead of the tired Trope " Trump lies". Trump doesn't lie anymore than anyone else . MSNBC is the worst offender. Karmela Harris lies constantly. Its so tiresome the Astro - turfing, propaganda, Psy - ops, misinformation etc. Loved how Ari didn't play into the agenda.
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Well done! Enjoyed this hour very much.
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Oh, sure, the cell phone joke is Vance's private business... And so is it when I'm on my period or if I've had a medical procedure etc etc etc. Also, I don't hear about any couches fearing for their lives because of a joke that no one knows if it's true or not. Come on now. Stop coddling White Supremacists.
The secret of the colonizers is their ability to convince their targets to prioritize their words higher than their actions.When they are successful at this, their targets become dysfunctional in the management of their own daily lives
One reason this is such a fascinating interview is that Mr Melber actually read the book. Two very smart people having one of the best exchanges of ideas I have seen in years on mainstream news.
I had this very thought.
Me too , well said Maia .
Exactly what I was thinking too.
Two, smart people? Who is more intelligent here? Considering one man is an American traitor and the othere clearly hates America, and they both convince you America is bad. Genius
We need more interviews that are this length. The short interview spots have no depth. Ari did a great interview with his fascinating guest.
He got my attention with this statement “truth tends to be complicated and uncomfortable “. Very thought provoking conversation. I hope he is a returning guest.
And painful
His books. His books are astonishing. We will never be able to get the breadth and depth of his intellect with interviews. ALthough, I do hope for more and ravenously devour every interview he gives.
@@lornfantI see you're a fan. First I've heard of him. Refreshing.
Truth is a perspective not a fact
I recommend EVERYONE seek out his book "21 Lessons for the 21st Century." It is a great read (on paper or audio) and has affected the way I approach thinking about almost any important topic in my life.
This is by far the most interesting discussion I’ve seen on MSM in a very long time. More like this please.
It's propaganda. You should research more on who this guy is first before taking anything he says to heart
As well we can see here we have an example of Harari‘s point: don’t look at the real statements, but rather look at his background and to which side it gives advantages.
@@AC-ed1jz this isnt propaganda. It's a conversation about how humans are influenced by propaganda. You cant call a conversation propaganda when the very goal of the conversation is about avoiding propaganda. Listen to the conversation again. If you think this is propaganda Id be curious what kind of intellectual content you consume that you dont consider propaganda because it appears to me that you are simply trying to avoid extracting anything useful out of this convo and are set on lumping it in with all the typical noise that is on TV.
@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT if you truly study sophisticated propaganda and the people that engage in it then you would know that this talk and the network itself is on air for one purpose only.
@@martinleuchs5403 We know who professor Harari is and we have our famous quotes from his books. This is not a propaganda, Harari, actually, represents the exact opposite of it.
What a rare indepth conversation ! Im glad to see they can still happen ! 😊😊
I'll never forget a quote from My College Professor, who was quoting someone else, "The essence of Tyranny, is simple answers for complicated issues."
And from my tutor at school - 'For every complex problem there is a simple solution - and it is the wrong one'
As one of my Law professors said "Simplicity breeds injustice."
Is it surprising that The < simple minded > conflate complex solutions with tyranny? 🤔 or is that just the irony of fools...
and there is nothing more simple then trump.
Spoken by a Marxist. Pull your head out.
Thank you so much, Ari Melber, and thank you so much, MSNBC. This is the best interview, the most educational interview, I have ever heard. And I am 69 years old, from the days of Walter Cronkite. And yes, vote Harris/Walz, and we need more Democrats in the Senate and the House, as well.
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This is filled with intellect, almost every minute. Very enjoyable, and informative.
This is one of the most interesting and TRUTHFUL (at least in intention 😁) I have heard in a long time. I wish most humanity was as intelligent ❤
A bright reminder that Ari melber is deeply read and insightful... Harari always brilliant. The contrast to maga stupidity head spinning.
Maga definitely won't be remembered for their intellectual acumen.
I'm a 100% Caucasian Haitian. If I don't like Americans am I a racist?
@@alee1700 yeah completely agree, great point
Yeah Harari is not a great guy and a lot of the things he's been involved with recently is deeply disturbing, I am surprised to see so many commentators lauding him, especially when he seems to be pretty obviously a Zionist and an actual genocide is going on.
@@alee1700and the left hasn’t allowed the extremists to run the party like the right has.
What a marvelous conversation. Thank you so much, Ari. And thanks to MSNBC for airing it on youtube.
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The most erudite conversation on MSNBC I've ever heard. Thank you.
It's the most erudite convo I've (personally) heard at all, outside of a college classroom. I could listen to them all day.
Yes I thought MSNBC had given up on erudite coverage
First off, erudite and msnbc are mutually exclusive. 2nd, folks like Harari and M Gladwell are notoriously ill-informed and write drivel merely disguised in compelling prose. This is the antithesis of erudite.
I love Mr. Harari and his scholarship. I'm going to run to the bookstore for Nexus! Thank you for introducing me to it with this scintillating conversation. Ari, you are wonderful! Thank you, gentlemen. 💯❤️🙏🏽
Yuval gave a thought provoking take on our unfolding situations. One of the most interesting guests you’ve had. Please bring him back again.
Yes, excellent!
I thought he was a comedian.
@@americanpatriot6484Only because you are opposed to thinking.
Sheep
Billionaires who own print and news media that have right-wing ideation influence news reporters to focus on the stupidest questions in politics.
Hat's off to Melber, one of the best and most intelligent interviews I've seen in.... thinking about it... yup, my whole life. This is journalism, this is interviewing, I want more of this. 30 straight minutes of real talk. Thank you!
I agree. Most illuminating
Ari , this gentleman historian , is like listening to my mom and dad . And many of my aunts and uncles . Friends of my parents . And teachers I had back in the 1960s. I miss them all . And I look forward to reading this gentlemans book .
It was like a comedy act.
Just purchased the hardcover, should be here by this weekend.
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@americanpatriot6484 you’re talking slabout Trump’s takes in the debate I presume? Not about Yuval Harari… that gentleman is more educated than you and I will be together.
Typing on phones sucks btw
This is probably my third time watching this. Great conversation. Incredibly thoughtful.
This is great, msnbc. I wish we had more conversations like this on this news in the US. We need it, we're thirsty for it.
Sadly, the ones we want this to reach, don’t have the capacity to pay attention to the content or understand the complexity of the context. At most, they live on TikTok length content.
@@utubes720 a few months ago I would have agreed with you, but after the Kenyan months long protests led by tiktokers and GenZs for better governance and neoliberal policies. I can't say I hold the same view. Information is out there, how a society chooses to use it (without government interference) speaks to what they place value in; at that moment, but other factors make a difference too.
It was excellent, loved every minute of it.
Seek out public radio and television -- NPR and and PBS have conversations like this every day.
@@dianeatpeace337 And that’s why the Republicans have called it “biased radical left wing propaganda”. The Republicans have also been trying to eliminate funding for PBS and NPR for many years.
This interview was outstanding. Wow. I’m drowning! I didn’t realize how much I craved to hear an explanation of where truth lies.
I agree. The truth here, lies.
This explains why EVERYBODY lies we see on the news. All the newscasters, all the politicians etc. Trump lies, Kamala lies, the news anchors lie. Ari did a beautiful job.
"Truth lies", how oxymoronic, lol.
@@laurencebledsoe Could be the Avatar of the Leftoid.
@@julianzukmann2110 Could possibly be. While "truth lies", there could be a matter of interpretation or intention.
I’m always drawn into discussions with Yuval Harari…very thought provoking and engaging. Please have him return soon for more great conversation!
The consult to the devil, sure.
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@@AC-ed1jz 🤣 the what? You aren't scaring anyone with your made up monsters anymore.
That yuval is an sgent of satan
Harare hates humanity and he is a maniac
Brilliant. I have to read Yuval Harari's books now!
Absolutely brilliant interview between two fabulous people. Thank you Ari for such a thoughtful interview, and blessings to you Yuval on your contributions to the worldwide discussion. Bravo!!!
Excellent conversation - Ari we need a nation of people that are energized by discussions like this rather than what we see on the daily sound bites.
If people were willing to read books,ideas and enter into discussion they would be energized.
Older people are more likely to accurately READ, and less likely to use tik tok. Unfortunately, we'll die off and you'll be left with the tik tok generation - the something for nothing generation whose ambition is to get rich quick.
And while the historian says media misinformation isn't unique to America, it's RIFE in America for a reason: the average Brit reads, on average, 11-18 books per year. By contrast, the average American reads less than one. This should be worrying in a country where the average person has access to guns! This means, the average gun owner hasn't even read a book about guns! This begs the question: Where are Americans getting info.? The gutter media and any source which supports their bigoted ideas.
Exactly. Everyone needs to hear this. We all believe we have the truth, and that it is the othet guy who is wrong. America needs to be more united, less opinionated. No one actually possesses the truth. They ALL lie.
@@EricPerson so... when is Trump going to prison?
Wow is this guy smart. He speaks critical insights that others don't. Thanks for having him on, very pleased.
For sure, I was immediately impressed, that’s not easy these days… The world needs more critical thinkers to sort out problems, there’s so much noise in the mix.
His book is good, too. Read it.
I’ve listened to him before. My guess is that he has an IQ of at least 160.
yes he is please read his books
I think his book "21 Lessons for the 21st Century" is a terrific introduction to his work. I've given it as a gift to a number of young adults who, once they read it, described its lasting impact on their lives.
Happy Thanksgiving! ARI AND YUVAL, this is inspiring and Gives hope to many.
I just love this interview. Fantastic job by Ari! Mr. Harari is brilliant and thoughtful.
A fantastic job by Ari would have also included the other strongman, along with their deceptions and misinformation deployed for the purpose of gaining power. The Hunter Biden laptop is a stunning example. But of course Ari can't do that; he works for a bias network. So a piece that highlights just one candidate and ignores the lies and misinformation of the other is by HIS very definition Propaganda. How is that doing " a fantastic job" ? A Fantastic use of Propaganda? This is laughable!
Lovef it. I didn't like the TRUMP bashing, unnecessary and not accurate, but Ari was brilliant.
U a joker. He is a dangerous n horrible person.
Harari said that for the people in Israel and Gaza who “have suffered tremendously … your mind is so full of your own pain that any attempt to even draw your attention to the pain of somebody else feels like a betrayal”.
So, he said, “in a moment like this, we entrust the possibility of peace to outsiders”.
Such simple words but powerful truth.
Something I've said for years, until they have peace for generations, the middle east cannot have peace. It's a vicious circle that today's violence just fuels the violence of the future.
Wow that is so tragic
Entrust the fate of others to outside forces may be possibly the worst idea.
The Palestinians are NOT stupid people, nor are the Israelis.
Certainly there are fanatics within both of them, people who cannot tolerate any religious or ethnic differences.
Truth IS complicated, not "yes or no" especially if someone else steps in to judge and make those decisions.
Yes, they HEALED THE WOUND OF MY PEOPLE LIGHTY ... Saying "PEACE, PEACE" (when there WAS NO PEACE), Please see JEREMIAH 8:11 + 9:24 "The LORD EXERCISES KINDNESS, JUSTICE& RIGHTEOUSNESS".. (Amen)
Such an interesting conversation between Ari Melber, very good journalist and Yuval Noah Harari, very good historian ... a real jewel in the news jungle ! Congratualtions to the two of them !
I concur with Yuval Harari that the algorithms employed by large corporations should be accountable and bear responsibility. The paramount truth ought to consider the well-being of humanity in all aspects. This is my approach to simplicity.
Agreed. Anybody who holds a position to influence the masses should absolutely be held to a higher standard and expected to be truthful in everything that they do. Media should be expected to tell the truth. The Republican party doesn't even have to have policies anymore, they run late and lies and mainstream media helped to create their false reality by pushing the lies. They should be held responsible but when the only punishment is money, there is no responsibility to the rich to do the right thing. Fox pushed the 2020 stolen election lies that led to an insurrection on our state capitol, they were fined $750 million dollars and they're still pushing lies.
This guy is speaking all facts. Undisputeable facts! The truth is like rain, because it doesn't care who it falls on!!!!
It didn't feel genuine.
@@americanpatriot6484 It doesn't feel genuine when it falls on corrupted ears.
This is an educated theory...
It's his opinion...
@@americanpatriot6484 WEF mouth piece. They don't know who he is, coming from the guy who says we can be gods. The pictures of Jesus breaks the commandment of no graven image.
8:45 He was doing fine until he said there was no description or images of the one they call Jesus. The Bible is a black history book from Adam, Moses, Pharaoh, Salomon....
Wow. This man just explained the delusional narcissism in my family.
😂
Thing is.... You are now primed to sort and reject the incessant manipulations coming at us constantly...
@@letsRegulateSociopathsoh geez who are you referring to?
Probably a good 50 %
I didn’t hear him speak about the failure to develop amygdala. Antisocial disorder is biological. It’s not hereditary… it’s rooted in children brain development & stressing out kids during amygdala development that shuts down the synapses from forming due to emotional trauma. Americans especially, treat kids like mini adults from birth. Their brains are failing to develop the amygdala… leaving only the base brain (reptile brain) emotions of survival. In a survival mode, the self is all that is important & only the mother/child bond has any value but only on the short term. Everything becomes about the self, deceiving others to serve the individual, & even entertainment becomes all about gaming the system & dominating others. Public schools no longer enforcing discipline & failing to socialize kids is the largest contributor to antisocial disorder becoming a pandemic. Civilized behavior has broken down because more & more people are missing a functioning amygdala. This critical organ of the brain will literally shut down in kids who experience emotional stress without periods of recovery & healing. It’s a result of constantly bombarding kids with negative emotions & never resolving the emotional crisis the child is being forced to hide in order to be accepted. We are literally cultivating psychopathy by refusing to accept that children are emotionally fragile & require careful nurturing. Parents don’t socialize their kids anymore. They expect strangers at school will do that for them. The focus is only on money. Parents think money purchases their way out of raising their kids. In the past real life actually stressed kids out, especially males. War, poverty & lack of medicine/healthcare were the worst culprits of childhood stress. Now it’s other kids bullying & tormenting while being inundated with violent content in media, etc. Its insidious. Our amygdalae are simply no longer being developed in greater rates than ever before. We have emotionally dysfunctional people preaching to us that feeling nothing for others is a new evolutionary advancement & even a spiritual movement.,. The latter being absolutely ludicrous. But this is the increasing push of a majority that are missing their amygdala. They even suppress this information about the amygdala & child brain development as a way to keep normalizing apathy & narcissism & advancing antisocial disorder as a new advanced way of thinking. Scapegoating in families, as you are describing, has become increasingly common. The person in the family who has a normal emotional range becomes the scapegoat. Antisocial members of the family lean on each other to normalize their amoral behaviors & ideologies. But the root cause is the missing amygdala that failed to develop in childhood. Without a functioning amygdala the narcissists have no ability to communicate with reason or rational concepts. They will talk circles around a person with feelings & convince themselves & others that a person who has emotional normalcy is inferior. To the narcissists, their lack of feelings is not only normal but superior. The FACT that they lack a critical organ in the brain never comes up. That’s why you have been kept from this information. Look up the work of Dr Adrian Rayne using MRI scans to see the missing amygdala… then look up the biological facts of how the amygdala develops during childhood. It’s the big secret of our times. I too am a scapegoat. I could not heal until I answered WHY. This research freed me. I hope it helps someone else as well.
This has been enlightening. Thank you for having Yuval on. Thought provoking.
I am experiencing a great deal of cognizant dissonance about what I am supposed to understand and believe about WE THE PEOPLE.
WE THE PEOPLE need truth to make a more perfect union ESTABLISH JUSTICE, Provide for the COMMON DEFENSE, and promote the GENERAL WELFARE
WE THE PEOPLE,
Led by the unknowing,
are doing the impossible,
for the ungrateful.
AT THIS POINT.!
WE THE PEOPLE
have done so much,
for so long,
with so little.!
WE THE PEOPLE
are now qualified to do anything with nothing.
1863 SLAVERY became illegal.
OUR LEADERS with H1B is expecting to continue playing the game with indentured servitude.
Because:
WE THE PEOPLE are too stupid to see what is going on.
WE THE PEOPLE
EXERCISE OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to gather peaceably and REDRESS OUR GRIEVANCE on "x" formerly Twitter, AS THE PEOPLES OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER PEACEFULLY AND REDRESS OUR GRIEVANCES.
I just read his "childrens version of sapiens, to my 7 year old son. It blew our minds. His writing is funny, really adepted to the thoughts of children. This man is a jewel for humanity.
I didn't know there was a children's version....that's awesome. Does it have a different name?
@nacarreira777 I believe it's called Unstoppable us, how humans took over the world
This is one of the best interviews I have seen in decades❗️👍 Thanks❗️
Thanks to MSNBC for giving this great dialogue the length it deserves!
There’s so much information out there when people buy into information they feel they’re right and will argue with the facts that they know whether it’s actually factual. People need to be ‘right’ thusly cannot listen to something that is contrary to their ‘knowledge’.
I'm a 100% Caucasian Haitian. If I don't like Americans am I a racist?
@StopProgressieTraitors-d8hSounds like self-enslavement …
Only because Yual adds sugar to to a complex discipline.
If people won't even listen black historians or any other historians from marginalised communities, the only reason the media listen Yual is because he looks like them, if he said that, fade to black.
@@DavidWalter-gz8ue You have serious problems, Sir!
What a phenomenal discussion and great guest! We need more of this in the news instead of 30 second clips, sound bites, and my side vs your side.
I agree with you. But imo-sadly most of the population only want the clips, sound bites and memes. I look forward to reading the book, I hope you do as well.
It felt contrived and forced, divisive really.
Ari, you are brilliant. I would like to hear from your guest a bit more, fewer interruptions...I'd listen to an even longer interview, with more of your questions, more guests answers. Love your interviews!! Intriguing.
Yes, I agree with you regarding interruptions and not allowing the guest to complete his responses.
Wow I have not relished in an intellectual interview on "TV" since when I lived in France ... Thank you Ari !
Ari and Yuval, thank you for a smart conversation.
I feel less smart after watching it.
Smart cities, smart meters, smart phones, smart lights, smart cars, smart electronics, I would say their plans are coming along well. Tracked, traced, tagged. Havari did say "Freewill is over"
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@@americanpatriot6484 You probably are...people with character would have learned something.
@americanpatriot6484 you were clearly never smart, let alone intelligent.
WOW! BRILLIANT conversation! Learned so much and getting Harari's book! Thanks, Ari!! Please have Harari back again!
Wow…great interview. Love this author - so cogent and clear…need to rely on these people for “the truth”, not slimy politicians or self-interested billionaires…
Thanks Ari! So interesting! 🇨🇦
I love this interview. I am at awe with Prof Harari.
Check out interviews with Jacque Fresco if you're interested to see more about similar topics + to learn about possible solutions.
I hope people apply what he said. It starts with all of us looking in the mirror and admitting we aren't as objective and unbiased as we believe. We can be wrong. Truth IS complex. I didn't like the TRUMP bashing either, Trump doesn't lie anymore than everyone else . Kamala lies, MSNBC lies often.
I love listening to Yuval Noah Harari. What a treat! 💠
The context and references don't seem weird and random to you? Out of interest, are you on medication or friends with people in authority who act above the law??
Don’t worry you’re about to get a lot more of very soon! Very soon he shall lead the world into peace just as the Bible states! Many will love the Antichrist!
The truth isn't always complicated; sometimes, it's just subtle.
If the said truth is subtle, it's also more complicated than a strightforward, simple statement. Subtleties add complexity and usually a need for context, so it is nearly a sinonyme for complication in itself. To illustrate, the definition of "subtle" is more subtle and harder to grasp in itself than "truth", "lies" or "simple".
A fascinating and important exchange. Thank you!
Unforgettable interview. Amazing dialogue between two brilliant educators.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Am fascinated by the level of this discussion. You don't find such conversations in major news networks around the world, only in niche spaces. Thank you for this!
Love this convo…thank you Ari
Wow, just wow. Best interview I've seen on UA-cam - intellectual, insightful, and still totally accessible. Kudos to MSNBC and Ari Melber for bringing this to us.
Ari, Thank you, for having READ "Nexus" first!!! I am an author and after years of tv and radio interviews, my interviewer has The rare times my interviewer has had the time and the interest to have read my books first, the viewers were given such superior results! And NOW this is so very important!! Thank you.
Thank you to Yuval Harari !
This Man is Brilliant…. THank you
My thought exactly. It's nice to hear to hear an intelligent person speak.
You people are crazy
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Shoo!!! 🧹
Weird how Ukraine was GOING OFF when Obama was president and when Joey was the leader that conflict started right back up.. but we democrats support war in 2024 💩
This conversation was so stimulating! Thank you so much for sharing him with your viewers!
Check out interviews with Jacque Fresco if you're interested to see more about similar topics + to learn about possible solutions.
Brilliant and mind expanding discussion - thank you Yuval and Ari.
I feel asleep one minute in.
@@americanpatriot6484Only because you are only interested in trolling.
Very good and fair engagements. I pray America understands that its democracy, acclaimed worldwide as the best, is in a fragile state.
Yuval is always brilliant. I've listened to his appearances on a number of podcasts and UA-cam videos, extremely intelligent and thoughtful.
Wow. A thousand thanks. ❤
Excellent. Thank you.
This was a great talk. Please have more like this. It was thought provoking , refreshing , not a regurgitation of the past 24hrs
It's such fun to stretch head a different way & Not just Bloat it with the news of the day. THINKING is part beyond KNOWING, which is important too..... cheers
Really spot on. And horrifying. I'm not sure humans really evolve the way many of us might believe and hope.
Yuval’s intellect never ceases to amaze me. I am mesmerized by his knowledge. I love to listen to him…
you should listen to his lectures about human free will. Youll probably end up with nightmares. No surprise to me that this is "the favorite historian"
@@bevs9995Truth doesn't cause nightmares. Lies are.
Really interesting - thank you. Just one gentle criticism: please don’t interrupt! I was very interested in Harari’s comments about modern leaders lacking time/space to ‘go deep,’ for example, and he was stopped short. But other than that - brilliant!
Right. I was very frustrated.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Thank you gentlemen
Fascinating interview!
This is one of the best interviews I've watched in a long while. Much information shared.
I just watched this tonight. One of the most interesting intellectual discussions I've heard in a long time. Two very smart men in an engaging conversation, not talking about sports, music or cars. Thank you!
Thank you Mr. Melber. Excellent guest.
Really glad I saw this interview. Yuval Harari is very captivating in his way of thinking. I can understand why Obama really likes him. I think you asked very thoughtful and provoking questions Ari.
baracks brother is on the trump train. all aboard!!!
Yes was a brilliant conversation.
They both are part of the plan. It's called conditioning.
I understand your comment but just to be clear, Obama said he liked his particular book. He did not say he liked him.
My favorite lawyer talks with my favorite author. Please have Yuval on many many more times in the future, even if he has nothing to promote. ❤
Thank you, Ari, for a great interview. And Thank you, Yuval, for sharing your wisdom.
Best piece of information I have gotten....."Observe Your Breath" I am 74yrs.old.Thanks for asking the question Ari. Yuval... thanks for your answer,it has saved my life many times in the last few years!
I always feel less smart after watching ari.
@@americanpatriot6484 you were a dunce before watching him
Well said and Deeply felt..Don't expect the Others to understand..✌🏽🕊️🗳️💙Vote ..
@@jadedjaden3790 my ... we're angry today
@@jadedjaden3790 Ha! Accurate.
What a captivating conversation and a breath of fresh air. The way Mr. Harari carefully chose his words & the thoughtful conversation between him & Ari. It's just a nice change of pace from today's political landscape. More like this, please.
So true.
I agree.
Easily one of the finest interviews conducted this year worthy of conducting a follow-on long format interview.
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I could have listened to the both of you for hours. Im going to order the book as soon as Im done listoning to this also.
I found this interview to be refreshing, interesting and easy to understand.
Thank you both .
I didn't expect to watch this all the way to the end--but I did! Well done! Thought-provoking!
I didn't either! I'm definitely getting his books. I could have listened to them for hours.
Hello you two, I'm enjoying this immensely at the 49 minute mark. 😊
Very happy to see a thoughtful and in depth interview about ideas!
This is all very challenging and eye opening. I may have to watch this more than once. I will definitely look in to getting the book. Thanks Ari, great show!
I am an israeli who opposes war. Yuval is our voice.
The world must regulate social media, like tv and radio are regulated.
So much love for Yuval. An excellent mind applied to important, contemporary and hitorical issues.
Well said! Thank you!❤
Ari, this is deep and complicated, but so very interesting. My hope is that we will see you diving into more such fascinating subjects after the election. Conversation between a couple of intellectuals is rare today.
Yes! I would love to see more interviews like this, rather than the circus act we’re subjected to on the daily!
I agree @Michael...
This guest is very inside full. I wish more people would give him a. Chance to explain his into regarding the" truth" in history and politics.
Really good food for thought - please give us more of this kind of content!!!
Thank You Yuval Noah Harari for your educational interview with Ari. More of us need to listen to This Conversation.
Thank you for responsible journalism. This gives me some hope for more of this in the future! 💙
Ari ur so good, trying to say that ur something else, in the good way. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Big props for devoting the hour to this conversation.
Ari, this is fantastic! Thank you!
This is amazing. Love these long format deep dive interviews and Yuval is the perfect guest, so brilliant! Ordered his book just now…
One of the best interviews I've watched. Absolutely engaging. I hope the algorithm can see its way to sending me more stuff like this.
I’m old enough to remember when we sarcastically said “well, it must be true, it was in the newspaper. “ But the power of the digital age of misinformation is exponential.
That's why we need to be humble and acknowledge we may not have the total picture. Everyone has such strong, entrenched opinions and believes they are right. It's foolish.
msnbc Is the worst one! Biden lying about the laptop . Russia collusion.. you have to watch other countries news .. and make your conclusion. USA is now like Russia.. and a Democrat is the worst one to use Miss information
The internet was originally promoted on the basis of an uncensored exchange of views and information, in the naive belief that any liars or conspiracy theorists would be marginalised and wither by natural selection..... They have become all but the leading lights.
many years ago I remember seeing a film (National Film Board of Canada) that was called "Making The News". It was about News Media people traveling to Central America to get stories to feature on the nightly news cast. While in Central America they encountered a number of small, insignificant events/stories none of which would merit putting on the News. So they cobbled together several of these smaller stories making them into a larger story that woud get people's attention. And that story was what went on the National News that night. THAT'S when I realized that I could not believe everything I saw on TV because some of it was manufactured. These days, with the internet it is even MORE IMPORTANT to employ critical thinking and skepticism when confronting all the 'information' being presented as 'truth' when most of it is NOT TRUTH. Now, if you want the truth or something closer to the truth you are better to find someone you know and trust who lives wherever the event has happened and get their take on it. But remember even that will have bias.
there were laws, that held if the press knowingly lies to public they would face consequences , Im not sure if these have been just weakened or tossed. With the illogical decisions being made by the courts I would not be shocked to find they have neutralized the rule
I think this is one of the most fascinating interviews I’ve ever watched. I’m going to order Harari’s book. Thank you!
He kind of has a trilogy. "Sapiens" is the first of the series.
Yuval really laid out the whole situation of our current political climate by highlighting how the information technology of the day has such a profound impact on society. The concept of democracy being a conversation and a dictatorship is just one person dictating everything…brilliant
I’m definitely going to buy his book, it sounds very interesting.
Just paused this interview to order the book, I’m so looking forward to it. 💙
Dr. Harari is one of my favorite authors. As an academic myself, I like that his books aren’t overly academic. They’re written very intelligently & w/ an abundance of research but w/o the jargon of academia which turns off most readers. I always strive for this tone in my academic writings, too.
What’s the point if academics only write for each other? I’ve ALWAYS felt we should be writing articles & books, especially in the social sciences & humanities, that anyone can read & understand. Trudging through exhaustive tomes & treatises in grad school made me despise the grandiose language & snobbery of most academic writers. Purposefully writing dense, almost incoherent, texts to be picked apart by confused grad students for decades to come while they chuckled demonically at their cleverness. Ugh.
Great interview w/ a most interesting author & academic. 🌏✌️
maybe Harari would say that was about those people seeking power. And they got it. Their dense tomes, assigned to their students for decades, made them powerful. And made a little more money on the side. Ah the American Dream, eh.
Yes!! This is why I left academia...what good is research if no one can read it??
Let's not forget education... The accessibility to widened fields of education... the sciences especially... has 'enlightened' many people...and as the importance of education and critical thinking is receding.... we are entering challenging times....
Many MAGA consider teachers to be the witches of the modern day.
A very prepared Ari doing his flat out best with his intellect, Weltanschauung, and his vast knowledge, barely keeping it toe to toe with a very self-restrained, nearly omniscient Yuval. I will watch several times. Interviewing at its zenith. A journalistic jewel to behold.
this should be written in a letter to the editor somewhere. Really good writing.
Let's not make them into God's. They had a great discussion. Very interesting and educational - flawed by inane partisan politics. EVERYONE LIES would have been an honest, and interesting title, instead of the tired Trope " Trump lies". Trump doesn't lie anymore than anyone else . MSNBC is the worst offender. Karmela Harris lies constantly. Its so tiresome the Astro - turfing, propaganda, Psy - ops, misinformation etc. Loved how Ari didn't play into the agenda.
the bald guy such psycho say trash to trash
i like this discussion and I am going to read his book.
Aside from the excellent guest, I never expected a US cable news anchor to talk fluently on air about Foucault!
Ari is the Renaissance man from the streets. ❤❤❤
And he'll sum up the episode in 90's rap in the next breath 😂❤ Ari is one of the best. Also, the idea that Americans are dumb is a trope lol
🥰🥰 Grad school on MSNBC. Hurrah.
Is it special to mention Foucault?
Stop watching fox
Good stuff, thanks Ari.