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Have we reached Peak Seiko Diver's Watch? | An In-depth look at the NEW Seiko King Sumo

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  • Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
  • The Seiko King Sumo is one of the tried and true classic diver's watches with a strong loyal following. Now the SPB321, SPB323 and SPB325 (phew) are the latest successors to the Seiko Sumo, along with it are a whole host of updates that make it a compelling watch. Have we finally reached peak seiko diver's watch? Are they worthy of your consideration? Let's find out
    Special thank you to Bezelhouse for lending in the King Sumo for review. If you are interested in the watches or any Seiko feel free to check out Bezelhouse.com
    #prospex #seiko #diverwatch
    00:00 Set the Mood
    00:26 Intro
    01:43 What is 'Save the Ocean'
    03:05 How do they Wear?
    03:56 Case & Ergonomics
    06:14 Dial Macro Shots
    08:14 Final impressions and Lume
    Ocean Waves During Sunset by Peter Fowler via Pexels
    Diver Swimming over Coral Reef by Adrien JACTA via Pexels
    Save the Ocean Footage by Seikowatches.com

КОМЕНТАРІ • 61

  • @perpetuality
    @perpetuality  Рік тому +1

    I should mention that in a hurry to get this video posted ASAP I forgot to mention the lug-to-lug length of 52.6mm however on the rubber strap the lug-to-lug is more manageable at around 50-51mm. Definitely large but as you can see on my 6.5in wrist it is just at the limit of manageable. Also erroneously mentioned in the video the SPB325 rubber strap flares out from 20mm to 22mm but then back to 20mm right down to the buckle/tail. Thanks for watching!

  • @bryanryan4504
    @bryanryan4504 Рік тому +3

    That sweater with the grey sumo is a beautiful match.

  • @wisamal-hakim5531
    @wisamal-hakim5531 Рік тому +8

    For ‘budget’ dive watches, Seiko really are difficult to beat. These are wonderful, especially the PADI version with a great rubber strap and blue highlights. Thanks to one of your previous reviews I own a seiko Shogun which remains one of my favourite and most comfortable watches of all time. Great review as always
    Many Thanks!

    • @iLeetjeeh
      @iLeetjeeh Рік тому +2

      With Seiko increasing their prices it's not really budget anymore. Budget divers to me are watches like the Hamilton Khaki Scuba or Certina DS Action Diver. The latter blows Seiko out of the park in the same price range. 800$ and you have 300m, Ceramic bezel and 80hour power reserve. Add to that the microadjustment bracelet and diver clasp, paying 400$ more for the "equivalent" Seiko (with a movement that is being used in cheaper models) just seems foolish. Especially considering the quality of recent Seiko's. Which isn't great.

    • @wisamal-hakim5531
      @wisamal-hakim5531 Рік тому +2

      @@iLeetjeeh just checked out the certina. Wow! Thanks for the tip, amazing watch. Tempted!

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому +1

      Would love to get a certina ds diver in to review- great choice

  • @drbobsnightmare2521
    @drbobsnightmare2521 Рік тому +6

    Sumo sumo sumo. I love the Sumo. I wish Seiko would release a high end SLA Sumo with 8L that's not a limited addition. Call it the Yokozuna.

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому

      Love the name you picked for it

    • @adamski101
      @adamski101 Рік тому

      I never fell for the Sumo. No soul.

  • @Tyler-sl6vg
    @Tyler-sl6vg Рік тому +1

    I hope they add a ceramic bezel to the spb143 / 63mas. Then I will buy it. Glad on this one no cyclops. This is an amazing Sumo rendition.
    Big improvement with the bracelet but they still gotta ditch their diver extension. The clasps need to be reworked on the entire Seiko diver range.

  • @DavidRon
    @DavidRon Рік тому +5

    Pins > screws. They don't strip or randomly fall out. And they are faster to change.

    • @manuel_winde
      @manuel_winde Рік тому +2

      100%
      Once you know what you’re doing with them they’re easy- I tend to do it over a plate/bowl now so it catches the collar (lost a few in the carpet over the early years).
      People also forget that using cheap or wrong sized screw drivers can mess up links/screw heads.

  • @dylanparry5712
    @dylanparry5712 6 місяців тому

    Bloody hell! Finally a Seiko bezel that lines up!! 😂😂

  • @OnetoWatch
    @OnetoWatch Рік тому +1

    Great video David 👍👏 I really like the look of these new King Sumos 👌 Difficult to choose between the three. The PADI version is a special edition and a little different with the PADI globe motif - I like it a lot! The blue and beige versions look great with the guilloche wave pattern. Out of these two the unusually coloured beige is my favourite too. The case has the look of the MM300 which I think is good! I also really like the simple hands that are very distinguishable from each other.

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому +1

      You bring up a good point Dean. I think these are very much like the inbeteeen a MM200 and a MM300 in value and quality. Thanks for watching as always

  • @chrisgravel7157
    @chrisgravel7157 3 місяці тому

    I like this direction but I think Seiko just upped the Ante again with the Padi Deep blue variants! I picked up a Samuari and it is Georgous on wrist.
    To me its a step up from all the previous manta and other themed dials.
    I would buy a Sumo as well but I kinda want Seiko to do a updated King Sumo with a green dial.

  • @Tangylives
    @Tangylives Рік тому +1

    Bit too big and heavy for me, but thankfully the MM200 reduced exists, which is my perfect Seiko diver.

  • @jkldeer
    @jkldeer Рік тому +1

    Damn, the dial texture on these are sick! Would definitely need to try it on with that lug size though...

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому

      Definitely a must try in person. I don’t recommend buying this sight unseen as you’ll see best how it’ll work on your wrist

  • @chonghongleong
    @chonghongleong Рік тому +1

    Finally the sumo comes with the better milled clasp.

  • @robcameron9351
    @robcameron9351 Рік тому +1

    That is such a great package. Size seems large but I know would wear nicely

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому

      It offers a lot more to like that the size may be not so much of a dealbreaker in my opinion

  • @fossilimprint2954
    @fossilimprint2954 5 місяців тому

    Great review. Subscribed !

  • @frankbcn2223
    @frankbcn2223 Рік тому

    Nice presentation and great looking watches

  • @tolgai.altunova5858
    @tolgai.altunova5858 Рік тому

    I will wait until it is available in green!!

  • @069stylez069
    @069stylez069 Рік тому +2

    I have a 6.7 inch wrist (17cm). Can you recommend me to buy it?

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  11 місяців тому

      You can definitely get away with it

  • @bngr_bngr
    @bngr_bngr Рік тому +1

    Have you seen the US Special Edition? They also call them Ice Divers. They have different dials and a cyclops. But priced lower than the King Sumo.

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому +1

      I have experienced them and they are going to be reviewed soon 😃

  • @richardjones6234
    @richardjones6234 Рік тому +1

    Gray dial for the win. Just need a new bracelet

  • @martinelliot-tv3zg
    @martinelliot-tv3zg 10 місяців тому

    Please could you compare the lovely King sumo to the new MM200 glacier save the ocean.
    Two superlative divers that I’m struggling to choose between.

  • @NotAWatchSnob
    @NotAWatchSnob Рік тому +2

    I've never been a fan of their rubber straps but dayyymm

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому +1

      I am with you on that, aside from the rubber strap on the SPB147 (62mas re-interpretation) and the 'new' Captain Willard

    • @mollari2261
      @mollari2261 11 місяців тому +1

      Crafter Blue CB02 - custom rubber for Sumo

  • @archievthapa3593
    @archievthapa3593 11 місяців тому +1

    Heavenly gorgeous !!!

  • @dvdk6543
    @dvdk6543 Рік тому +2

    But no "signed" crown like previous Sumo's !!!!

  • @timemeasured9137
    @timemeasured9137 Рік тому +1

    Very nice indeed. However I still prefer the 62mas case dimensions and design as being the best Seiko divers.

  • @denniskai2331
    @denniskai2331 Рік тому +1

    I love the watch and would be sooo tempted to buy it - were it not for the 45mm size and 52mm lug height. Here me seiko, make a 42 mm for those with 7" and smaller wrists (edit - great video, but I've yet to wear anything 43mm or larger that didn't look like a UFO flying saucer on my wrist)

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому

      Would love to see a smaller version but I do feel like it would compete directly against the ''Marinemaster'' 200M

    • @adamski101
      @adamski101 Рік тому

      Seiko make plenty of 42" and under dive watches so leave some for those with bigger wrists.

    • @williamchan8866
      @williamchan8866 Рік тому +1

      The thing about the sumo is it looks big when display but looks fine on wrist.

  • @carlosgj1308
    @carlosgj1308 15 днів тому

    The sumo only fit to a wrist size of 7.5 inch and above any smaller wrist it will look to big

  • @ccw5886
    @ccw5886 Рік тому

    Mmmm! I love Seiko but.....Accuracy on that new movement is not good. Lots of feedback confirming this. The bracelets still wanting with no micro adjust, Alignment issues on the bezel persist across the range. They are over-priced for the spec. budget Diver?? No easy to beat almost anywhere with higher spec better movements and a hugely better price. I really see only Seiko divers as an option if you spend towards the higher end , then you have a very good time piece indeed. these criticisms are fixable but have not been addressed by Seiko and so micro brands for me every time.

  • @Panagiotis_Pap
    @Panagiotis_Pap Рік тому +3

    I think, the crown should be at 3 o’clock

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 Рік тому +2

      No, it is we’re it should be.
      Part of the genetics for a Seiko dive watch.

    • @Panagiotis_Pap
      @Panagiotis_Pap Рік тому

      @@e28forever30 You are right. It works better, for diving purposes

    • @KB-kw8ni
      @KB-kw8ni Рік тому +1

      @@e28forever30 makes no damn bit of difference

    • @adamski101
      @adamski101 Рік тому

      I love 4 o'clock crowns!

  • @kerbdogrule
    @kerbdogrule Рік тому +1

    The chapter rings on the PADI and Grey dial watches don't look aligned properly. Typical Seiko QC.

  • @saf00
    @saf00 Рік тому

    BIGGEST change is the skinny font on the bezel. that's why I stopped buying sumos.

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому +1

      Yep. there is always bound to be one update that one may have gripes with. Just like with the original Sumo and it's handset. Though I do not mind the skinny font in exchange for it being ceramic if I had to nitpick I wished the bezel was lumed. Can't make everyone happy as there is no 'perfect' watch in my opinion

    • @saf00
      @saf00 Рік тому +1

      @@perpetuality well we now have UNLIMITED limited edition Seikos now which is kind of boring too.

  • @jamespidgeon5428
    @jamespidgeon5428 7 місяців тому

    Tha chapter ring alignment on the Padi is the worst I’ve seen, at this mid tier the Sumo now falls in (following the sharp price rise for a ceramic bezel insert and ‘improved’ bracelet) this is unacceptable. Every time I buy a Seiko I ask the dealer to send pictures, I fortunately have a good relationship with a couple of AD’s who are happy to oblige but would I be asking the same of other brands in the £1000 - £1500 bracket…

  • @rhonda837
    @rhonda837 Рік тому +2

    Still has a camel toe at 12 and the 6r35 is junk.

    • @KB-kw8ni
      @KB-kw8ni Рік тому

      What junk about it?

  • @Alexander196210
    @Alexander196210 10 місяців тому

    PROspex not PROSpex

  • @mockcinoe279
    @mockcinoe279 5 місяців тому

    Différence for sumo spb321j1 vs sumo spb103j1 ????

  • @mockcinoe279
    @mockcinoe279 5 місяців тому

    Green sumo 820$ ,blue sumo 1300$ ????

  • @sengo2143
    @sengo2143 Рік тому

    +30 sec daily. Even after the service. GARBAGE!

    • @perpetuality
      @perpetuality  Рік тому

      That’s a huge range. Did yours fall off a truck on its way to you?