@@DavidGilchristCatMan one of the few who read the video title, thank you. Depreciation on EVs here are just in line with normal car depreciation. Fuel costs have increased 57p to 82p per litre fairly recently. Grace at Zeekr advised that the normal cost to top up the EV is around 500 baht, whereas an ice car is between 1200 - 1700 baht. So there are some running costs to be saved..... but it was the performance for the money that astounded me. 🙏🙏
@@DavidAndNong very nice but I still won’t buy an electric car though sticking with my petrol guzzling BMW, as the UK doesn’t have the infrastructure to accommodate electric vehicles. Queues at charging points, many are broken and this net zero weird global hysteria is a ruse. My opinion of course 🤷♂️
@@DavidGilchristCatMan I understand you. They seem to have a good infrastructure here for charging, better than gas stations for sure. The price difference in UK would put me off to. Here the performance compared to price is unheard of 🙏🙏
The bottom's falling out of the EV market in Western countries. It's true that they're overpriced here, but it's also true that very few of the manufacturers are making money from their EVs. BYD are selling in the UK but not many as Chinese EVs still have a bad reputation (all EVs but especially Chinese ones), which together with the decline of EV sales means they're looking for new markets to offload their product. Personally I'd avoid an EV for a few more years until they've sorted the safety and reliability.
BYD is building the Sealion 6 in Thailand. It's a hybrid mid-size SUV priced around 1 million baht. It has 1100 km range. Can pre-order now for delivery in October or November.
I've been driving EVs in Thailand for over 4 years now, I have 2 and an electric motorbike all powered by my home solar. Solar and EVs make a lot of sense here, lots of sunshine, cheap installation and warm weather means longer range on the battery. I have my BYD Seal plugged into the home sometimes to give me backup power.
Fantastic, good that you can draw from the car to the house when needed. I unfortunately live in a condo, so probably a hybrid would be more practical 🙏
Gas is so cheap compared to Europe, why would u even consider to buy an electric car.. let alone the charging stations, do a trip north or south, even koh chang etc etc.. u will struggle and sweating... stay on gas is my advice until next generation of technology or engines arrive
comparison like that is dumb lol its something like $1.10 per litre..cheap for you in other continent but not in thailand..if its so cheap why ppl there switch to ev you want cheap come malaysia, 50cents per litre for 95 because heavily subsidies lol
@anthonyC214 How often do they occur? Although these fires do present a real danger, fortunately for us they remain very rare. Data obtained by Air Quality News through a Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed that in 2019 the London Fire Brigade dealt with just 54 electric vehicle fires compared to 1,898 petrol and diesel fires.
The Zeekr was a great drive and for the money excellent value with a beautiful finish. As usual, Thailand seems to have embraced the technology and no surprise to see so many electric cars here already.
Tesla prices have dropped for their lineup, they keep dropping prices whenever a competing product is launched. People then buy more Tesla’s increasing their sales. If some of these Chinese cars could be sold for the same price as they do in China, with better range, more people there would go EV. New batteries with longer range, longer use life and lower price are coming out, one thing that will need updating is faster chargers, and more of them, to support these new vehicles.
Any electric car, motor bike or push bike is Better than stinky fuel powered cars & motor bike's, Will help the pollution out in Thailand greatly Keep Thailand Beautiful, Live love Thailand..
@@VivoVivo-dj4su At what cost? China is buying up great swathes of Africa, and digging massive holes to extract rare earth minerals (sometimes with slave labour). They then send it out (on the newly built highways) and back to China, where it is dirty-processed using coal fired power stations. The remaining sludge is emptied out into the nearest waterways, with dire consequences for the environment, and in time may well affect drinking water and the water table all around. But, keep buying those Chinese cars… 🙄
Most electric vehicles can drive through water better than ICE vehicles. Properly sealed ones don’t have to worry about water getting into the intake or exhaust. Both vehicles will have to deal with the effects of corrosion after extended exposure to water but that can take years.
The Batteries in EV are "ISOLATED and Encased" in a waterproof casing. They are Rated IP67 ( Waterproof for 3 m depth ). Drove my Tesla M3 thru flood waters ( 2 feet) ... No Issues.
Hello David, First of it I will thank you for a very good content. Im a handicap person and i have to seat all the time in my wheelchair and I have a question for you.. If there is any taxi for wheelchair in Pattaya? I have to seat during the tripp all the time in wheelchair taxi because Im paralysed 95 %. Keep up the good jobb and be careful with your cykel. Sincerely Peter B
The thing with these electric cars is the batteries, how long is the warranty on these? To replace would be like buying a new car lol, that's my only draw back is the longevity of the batteries ?
@@gizmoinasia6080 By the time they get to a state that they would need to be replaced, most people are getting new cars. Keep in mind, these batteries are warrantied to account for some degradation during that period, I believe it is 85% (maybe 75% not quite sure) of their usable capacity, it it falls below that during the warranty period, it will be replaced under warranty. There are a number of Telsa users with batteries that have been used for multiple thousand miles and are still above their rated capacity. Properly charging the vehicle 10 or 20%-80% for daily use will allow them to last longer. Once you begin driving an EV, with enough chargers, you won't need to use 100% of the battery. Yes, you stop more to charge on long trips but, at 2 hours of driving, our bodies need a break and you can charge during that break. EVs are getting better every year, more chargers are being installed every month, all of this will help with people's fears of getting an EVs. One has to look at the entire ownership experience, driving style, cost, maintenance, etc., to see there is an advantage to go EV. If you own a home, the cost to "fuel" is less when doing so at home compared to fast chargers that everyone thinks they need. It's like charging a phone when you need to power up, unlike a phone, you don't have to do it every day, if your commute isn't long.
EV's are really becoming popular in Thailand, and with China so close-overproducing EV's there are some great deals and good quality brands will do well. The U.S. and Europe have had to put tariffs on them to protect their own markets from being overrun.
Yes very popular in Thailand ! the question is WHY?? I suspect the Thai people only look at the price of charging( Cheap electricity) They have probably never heard of depreciation!!!! How many dealers want to trade a 2nd hand EV when they do not know the state of the battery??Why they don't look videos from Piston Pundit/ Geoff Buy Cars. The mackmaster and MGUY Australia to mention a few, Europe EV sales down 69%!!!!!!! Dealers are over stocked cannot sale because people do not want them. Hybrids do a little bit better but 22,5% down ,VW fires about 50000 workmen because the EV sales are down and billions of losses!! Then the IT in the car you have to pay in the future for the apps and the old ones will not be maintained. With Songkran EV drivers will panick about their range!!! and certainly not enough charging stations. EV;s are not the future!
Lol I watch most of the channels you mention. I try to get a broad overview. Would I buy one in the UK, no chance, they are way overpriced, lower performance. The video here was to show that it may be a possible alternative to ICE. EV charging stations are plentiful here, with very few Gas Stations, especially within the town. Some of the things you mention are possibilities, as is increasing gas prices and legislation changes. Im definitely not green, but I am open minded
@@samorprong fuel is a dollar plus a litre, its expensive for thailand as wages not that high..thats the reason why people switch want cheap fuel come to thialnd neighbor malaysia, 50cents a litre because of subsidies
When European and American brands were in a strong position, no one talked about lame terms like "overcapacity". Accept it. That's how the market economy works.
@@jokeychin Partly agree with you but overcapacity at the moment has nothing to do with market economy. It is caused by political mandates that we all have to buy an EV but here the market ( we the people) do not want them
@foppo100 yes a ICE engine has a higher probability of working then a EV, a ICE has a long working history the electrics might need attention but how much is a new battery for a EV ?
Hi David very interesting video me personally i have a Audi r-8 Quattro 2024 hybrid and i have f-150 lariat hybrid 2023 both i don't need to plug to charge that's good because in Quebec Canada we have many times electric failure so the best choice is what i have just before f-150 lariat 2019 gas and my hybrid give me 360km more range and i don't think 100% is good because we already have problems with electric power we are not ready to be everyone electric with our winter minus 25° to -35° it will cause a lot of problems my friend have a Tesla 2023 electric it pay 125,000cdn and last winter he didn't start like 7 times when it was very cold so me i don't trust full electric car. Have a excellent day David take care and stay safe. 🙏🙏🙏 Oh i forgot in Canada they put a big tax on car made in China to protect our product.
Yes I think the cold is an issue, especially for the range. I understand why they put tarrifs in place, but reality is just extra money for the government. Hybrids are interesting, I didn't show the latest BYD hybrid, but the reviews are very good. Here there is a huge network of chargers in the town... And the cold is never an issue 🙏🙏
@@DavidAndNong I was surprised I didn't know these models they are very nice and zeekr flagships sport beautiful and they look like very good quality and yeah the tariffs the government put it's to make more money in Canada it's insane the tax we pay we even pay a tax on a tax when I see the price of the cars in Thailand wow they are not so expensive. Me the price I pay for my truck f-150 lariat hybrid 2023 with tax it's 101,000$cdn and my Audi r-8 Quattro 2024 it's 400,000$cdn I know you would say I'm crazy but we just have one life to live and it's to short so I try to enjoy it the most and I can afford so why not I saw my Father so many times say I regrets I didn't do this or that so me I'm living my life at 100%. I got a question David if you know I see that the steering wheel is on the right side and I know you're driving opposite of us but me if I decide to live in Thailand like Pattaya can I bring my vehicles or since my steering wheel is on the left side it's not possible here it's possible to have this my friend bought a Austin Martin and steering wheel is on right side and it's OK.Have a excellent day David and take care and stay safe my friend and hoping that your wife Nong is headache is gone and she's feeling better. kopkounmakkrap. sawatdikrap. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hundreds of them around the town. All of the shopping malls, Index, Central, T21, Lotus etc. Then also at the gas stations and many stand alone ones, like at EV garages etc. Definitely no shortage 🙏🙏
I drive a Tesla here in the states and wish there were more choices other than tesla....Kia and the big 3 just aren't up to snuff yet with tesla and of course we cannot get any of the Chinese cars which are miles above anything other than tesla...in fact they may be better....there is a new startup hopefully coming out quarter 2 next year....Aptera....a 3 wheel autocycle classified vehicle that claims to be able to get up to 40 Miles a day from solar.
Its going to be cheaper there rather then uk cos cars not had too be shipped to uk and last time i looked its not free to get the cars here so all the extra add ons its bound to put the price up .. just common sense tells you that . Great video still but different headline needed lol
@@DavidAndNong yea plus all the tax that gets put on top .plus uk allways pays over the top prices .cos we let our government do what they want ..uk needs to stand up n be counted .like i said just like everything else we pay more . We just noticed it more now when pound lost its value.
Don't believe the lies that EV's are not selling. Its all down to supply and demand, if people are prepared to pay the inflated UK prices then manufacturers will sell them at inflated prices. It is gradually changing now though and EV's will be cheaper in the UK than ICE in the very near future.
Hi David, I have driven a used electric car since 2020, they are far superior and save you a fortune in fuel, therefore I think it will happen naturally. The only thing holding it back is miss-information pumped out by the oil industry desperate to protect its income, people are seeing through that though gradually now. Thank you for your weekly videos they offer me so much escapism from the UK.
LOL! Charge at home, overnight when needed. The cars don't need to be charged every day, if one doesn't drive a lot, it could be days or weeks before you need to.
My friend drives less than 8000 km per year, so about 1 to 2 charges (coffee stops) per month. Many of the shopping centres have charging stations. No oil changes, less servicing. It's not perfect... but it's not the disaster that some of the media point to. On the plus side, to get that kind of performance in Thailand would cost several million baht and running costs would be considerably higher 🙏🙏
@@DavidAndNong I consider these a good vehicle for folks that are retired. I got n Audi etron back in 21, as they had a massive discount which brought it close to the price of the KIA Stinger I was driving. Yeah, it was missing a couple of features that the Stinger had and had less overall range but, charging at home was less than buying gas for the Stinger. Working on settling down in South East Asia and see all these well equipped, good range, low cost EV, makes me want to get one. I like the Zeekr X , well I prefer SUV/CUV now but, that Seal looks nice, is quick and have great range for long trips. Waiting to see what other stuff come out by the time we are settled and decide then.
They all look ok but BYD, MG ,cars not for me ! I suspect Chinese manufacturing,I am a Toyota man will not change they never go wrong.Thanks for your video bit different from the usual restaurant visit
The MG quality was a bit suspect, the BYD however seemed a great finish. The Zeekr was on another level. These cars here cost similar amounts to a Mazda 3 or a Honda Civic. Still progressing, but you can see leaps and bounds in the technology nearly every month.
@@DavidAndNong Chinese brands sold outside of China have to meet the regulations and safety requirements of the county they are sold in. The Chinese have been building cars for many brands over the years and are utilizing those build process for their vehicles, which is why they can offer quality built EVs now, under their own name, while starting completely new brands, sharing similar under-pinning. Geely for example is the parent company for Volvo, Polestar, Lotus, Zeekr, Smart, Lynk and Co and others. Geely also makes its own line of vehicles and work in partnership with Proton in Malaysia and have now partnered with NIO in China for swapping batteries in their EVs. BYD makes a whole line of cars in China that we don't see in foreign markets but, they are working on to export alongside the Seal, Atto 3 and Dolphin. Some of these vehicles are range extenders which we may or may not see outside of China. I've checked out the Seal, Atto 3 and Dolphin, while not a fan of the looks of the Dolphin and Atto 3, the interior is spacious and well made. I have ridden in a couple of Grab cars which were by MG in Thailand, both ICE and EV and they look nice and have a lot of equipment inside. They certainly aren't strippers like "base" level ICE cars we are used to. Although I suspect with tarifs and the need to sell less priced cars, we may see that happening in the future. Currently all the EVs from China I see are using recycled material on their interior, the seats feels/looks like leather as well as an up level look and feel to the interior. Let's hope Toyota will release some better performing EVs than the BZ4 line soon.
Ev cars are so modern and way ahead of the old machines. diesel/gasolin are so expensive that electric power is about 5 times cheaper. Could be a problem if you stay on a flat at 7 floor tho.
The whole point of going electric is to eliminate poisonous fumes coming out the exhaust pipe of petrol/diesel cars. The bonus is that electricity is cheaper per kWh than a litre of petrol/diesel.
@@darrellchurch3406 Thailand use a lot of oil and gas, and that is much cleaner than cars. Luckily wind and solar is popping up. For now only aprox 3%, but rapidly going up. Thailand has signed a agreement that they will go all green in 2035 (?)
an >>E.V....is a throw away item when batteries are dud....£20,000 minimum for a new battery system.....its like a milkfloat and mobile phones you throw away when batteries are dud....E.V.s...are a throw away item......DONT BUY A MILKFLOAT.....the best advice you will ever get....
Clearly, someone is misinformed. Does an ICE engine stop working after the warranty runs out? Batteries are warrantied for 8-10 (varies by manufacturer and countries) years in most vehicles, to retain 60-70% (probably more in some countries) of their rated capacity. Yes, you will lose some range over time, just like an ICE vehicle. Some may want to replace the battery or replace the car, businesses are starting to refurbish/refresh individual depleted cells, making the need for a full battery replacement unnecessary. Some companies are looking into making the battery an item you rent, instead of buy, with the option of swapping to a higher capacity version for long trips. Sadly, Tesla showed battery swapping, in the US years ago but never implemented it. NIO in China has this for a few years now and other manufacturers are signing on to use their battery swap stations. New batteries are being made with longer range, faster charging speeds and soon longer life, cost will come down for the batteries, making EVs cost less. Things will get better over time.
don,t buy an eletric car..until you have watched the macmaster ev,s....on you tube.....i wouldn,t have an eletric car for free....seriously......dont buy an .E.V>>
Cant look at mobile phone when driving in uk but these cars have massive screen to look at ,another crazy rule ,all cars with massive screens should be banned for safety reasons
Big screens are marketing gimmicks which can distract an undisciplined driver and cause accidents because a driver's full attention is not on the road. I think car makers won't remove them because otherwise a competitor will sell more cars. That will only happen if governments ban them for safety reasons.
David you must be getting paid to promote these electric cars they are nearly at Zero sales in Europe they have no resale value and even the dealers won't take them back that just shows how bad they are
Never done a sponsored video, I genuinely was just helping a friend with his car shopping and thought people may be interested. Here the market is being embraced, probably because the cars are not over priced as in Europe and UK. Audi TTs performance for 1/3rd of the price (in Thailand).
Europe and US is selling Evs as usual. Most sold cars. But European Electric made are not. See the difference? Must be boring to be the guy that are always wrong.
Nice and informative review of EVs in Thailand. Good to see in Pattaya that EVs getting more and more.
Thank you.
IS THERE A RADIATION METER ON THE DASH BOARD...BECAUSE RADIATION EXPOSURE IS VERY DANGEROUS TO HUMANS
Checked the zeekr x car …and the price in uk is 43k… against £30k you mentioned…we’re being ripped off right enough 😖
Tariffs. The BYD Seal is also pushed up in price due to this and that is a really nice car.
@@DavidGilchristCatMan one of the few who read the video title, thank you. Depreciation on EVs here are just in line with normal car depreciation. Fuel costs have increased 57p to 82p per litre fairly recently. Grace at Zeekr advised that the normal cost to top up the EV is around 500 baht, whereas an ice car is between 1200 - 1700 baht. So there are some running costs to be saved..... but it was the performance for the money that astounded me. 🙏🙏
@@DavidAndNong very nice but I still won’t buy an electric car though sticking with my petrol guzzling BMW, as the UK doesn’t have the infrastructure to accommodate electric vehicles. Queues at charging points, many are broken and this net zero weird global hysteria is a ruse. My opinion of course 🤷♂️
@@DavidGilchristCatMan I understand you. They seem to have a good infrastructure here for charging, better than gas stations for sure. The price difference in UK would put me off to. Here the performance compared to price is unheard of 🙏🙏
The bottom's falling out of the EV market in Western countries.
It's true that they're overpriced here, but it's also true that very few of the manufacturers are making money from their EVs.
BYD are selling in the UK but not many as Chinese EVs still have a bad reputation (all EVs but especially Chinese ones), which together with the decline of EV sales means they're looking for new markets to offload their product.
Personally I'd avoid an EV for a few more years until they've sorted the safety and reliability.
Totally Agreed !!! UK prices are too "Over Priced" compared to China Prices. Even allowing for overseas cost, etc ..... The 'EXTRA" is not Justified.
In the UK we talk about Net Zero, but get ripped off with taxes if you want one.
BYD is building the Sealion 6 in Thailand. It's a hybrid mid-size SUV priced around 1 million baht. It has 1100 km range. Can pre-order now for delivery in October or November.
@@BobbyDon8 yes they had it on display at the BYD garage, but I didn't film it as had very little knowledge.
@@DavidAndNong I took one for a test drive about a month ago. It was amazing.
cool and awesome, fun-fun-fun, with David and his Friends and Family.
Great idea for a video David ! I am really going to look into an EV when I get there.
I've been driving EVs in Thailand for over 4 years now, I have 2 and an electric motorbike all powered by my home solar. Solar and EVs make a lot of sense here, lots of sunshine, cheap installation and warm weather means longer range on the battery. I have my BYD Seal plugged into the home sometimes to give me backup power.
Fantastic, good that you can draw from the car to the house when needed. I unfortunately live in a condo, so probably a hybrid would be more practical 🙏
Having your own solar is the way they should all be charged , sadly no one in uk offers this
Billy Thorpe...your alive!
Hallelujah !
Gas is so cheap compared to Europe, why would u even consider to buy an electric car.. let alone the charging stations, do a trip north or south, even koh chang etc etc.. u will struggle and sweating... stay on gas is my advice until next generation of technology or engines arrive
Hybrid is better.
comparison like that is dumb lol
its something like $1.10 per litre..cheap for you in other continent but not in thailand..if its so cheap why ppl there switch to ev
you want cheap come malaysia, 50cents per litre for 95 because heavily subsidies lol
Too bad the battery has a tendency to burst into flames
@anthonyC214 How often do they occur?
Although these fires do present a real danger, fortunately for us they remain very rare.
Data obtained by Air Quality News through a Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed that in 2019 the London Fire Brigade dealt with just 54 electric vehicle fires compared to 1,898 petrol and diesel fires.
A gasoline vehicle one kilometer 5 baht fuel Electric vehicle costs only 0.5 baht
The Zeekr was a great drive and for the money excellent value with a beautiful finish.
As usual, Thailand seems to have embraced the technology and no surprise to see so many electric cars here already.
Couldn't agree more!
It reminded me of an Austin allegro, steering wheel wise.
@@Potterthepattayaperv lol I've driven one of them, probably the worst car I've ever been in 🤣🤣
Wow if you want to buy a Tesla in the USA drop your shorts because any model is expensive. Awesome reporting David THANK YOU 😊👍👏
Yes the tarrifs in Europe and USA are very high, its unusual for Thailand to be cheaper for cars
Tesla prices have dropped for their lineup, they keep dropping prices whenever a competing product is launched. People then buy more Tesla’s increasing their sales. If some of these Chinese cars could be sold for the same price as they do in China, with better range, more people there would go EV. New batteries with longer range, longer use life and lower price are coming out, one thing that will need updating is faster chargers, and more of them, to support these new vehicles.
Any electric car, motor bike or push bike is Better than stinky fuel powered cars & motor bike's, Will help the pollution out in Thailand greatly Keep Thailand Beautiful, Live love Thailand..
@@VivoVivo-dj4su At what cost? China is buying up great swathes of Africa, and digging massive holes to extract rare earth minerals (sometimes with slave labour). They then send it out (on the newly built highways) and back to China, where it is dirty-processed using coal fired power stations. The remaining sludge is emptied out into the nearest waterways, with dire consequences for the environment, and in time may well affect drinking water and the water table all around. But, keep buying those Chinese cars… 🙄
Surely there must be a bit more room on those poles for some more wires?
Just make sure you don't park or drive in flooded areas.
@@Milleneum correct
Most electric vehicles can drive through water better than ICE vehicles. Properly sealed ones don’t have to worry about water getting into the intake or exhaust. Both vehicles will have to deal with the effects of corrosion after extended exposure to water but that can take years.
The Batteries in EV are "ISOLATED and Encased" in a waterproof casing. They are Rated IP67 ( Waterproof for 3 m depth ). Drove my Tesla M3 thru flood waters ( 2 feet) ... No Issues.
Hello David,
First of it I will thank you for a very good content.
Im a handicap person and i have to seat all the time in my wheelchair and I have a question for you..
If there is any taxi for wheelchair in Pattaya? I have to seat during the tripp all the time in wheelchair taxi because Im paralysed 95 %.
Keep up the good jobb and be careful with your cykel.
Sincerely
Peter B
The thing with these electric cars is the batteries, how long is the warranty on these? To replace would be like buying a new car lol, that's my only draw back is the longevity of the batteries ?
Battery warranty is 8 years. Most last between 10 and 20 years; for context, the average car on American roads is 12.5 years old
@@DavidAndNong would be interesting to know how much these cost after the warranty if they need to be replaced ?
@@gizmoinasia6080 no servicing knuckle head
@@gizmoinasia6080 By the time they get to a state that they would need to be replaced, most people are getting new cars. Keep in mind, these batteries are warrantied to account for some degradation during that period, I believe it is 85% (maybe 75% not quite sure) of their usable capacity, it it falls below that during the warranty period, it will be replaced under warranty. There are a number of Telsa users with batteries that have been used for multiple thousand miles and are still above their rated capacity.
Properly charging the vehicle 10 or 20%-80% for daily use will allow them to last longer. Once you begin driving an EV, with enough chargers, you won't need to use 100% of the battery. Yes, you stop more to charge on long trips but, at 2 hours of driving, our bodies need a break and you can charge during that break. EVs are getting better every year, more chargers are being installed every month, all of this will help with people's fears of getting an EVs.
One has to look at the entire ownership experience, driving style, cost, maintenance, etc., to see there is an advantage to go EV. If you own a home, the cost to "fuel" is less when doing so at home compared to fast chargers that everyone thinks they need. It's like charging a phone when you need to power up, unlike a phone, you don't have to do it every day, if your commute isn't long.
Just purchased a car and £8,000 was for the VAT in the UK. Our government always screws us over,
I think hard times in the UK, inflation and taxation seem to walk hand in hand, with any of the Government's having very little impact 🙏🙏
Are you seeing charging stations going up in the pattaya area?
Way more than gas stations 🙏
@@blakesterdrums1647 go pattaya
Yep, lots of
EV's are really becoming popular in Thailand, and with China so close-overproducing EV's there are some great deals and good quality brands will do well. The U.S. and Europe have had to put tariffs on them to protect their own markets from being overrun.
Yes very popular in Thailand ! the question is WHY?? I suspect the Thai people only look at the price of charging( Cheap electricity) They have probably never heard of depreciation!!!! How many dealers want to trade a 2nd hand EV when they do not know the state of the battery??Why they don't look videos from Piston Pundit/ Geoff Buy Cars. The mackmaster and MGUY Australia to mention a few,
Europe EV sales down 69%!!!!!!! Dealers are over stocked cannot sale because people do not want them. Hybrids do a little bit better but 22,5% down ,VW fires about 50000 workmen because the EV sales are down and billions of losses!! Then the IT in the car you have to pay in the future for the apps and the old ones will not be maintained.
With Songkran EV drivers will panick about their range!!! and certainly not enough charging stations.
EV;s are not the future!
Lol I watch most of the channels you mention. I try to get a broad overview. Would I buy one in the UK, no chance, they are way overpriced, lower performance. The video here was to show that it may be a possible alternative to ICE. EV charging stations are plentiful here, with very few Gas Stations, especially within the town. Some of the things you mention are possibilities, as is increasing gas prices and legislation changes. Im definitely not green, but I am open minded
@@samorprong fuel is a dollar plus a litre, its expensive for thailand as wages not that high..thats the reason why people switch
want cheap fuel come to thialnd neighbor malaysia, 50cents a litre because of subsidies
When European and American brands were in a strong position, no one talked about lame terms like "overcapacity". Accept it. That's how the market economy works.
@@jokeychin Partly agree with you but overcapacity at the moment has nothing to do with market economy. It is caused by political mandates that we all have to buy an EV but here the market ( we the people) do not want them
Atto 3 only 37k in the UK....You're absolutely not being ripped off..... honest guv.
I drive Tesla but in Thailand .
It is so hot what do battery after time and you can charge easy ?
Tesla supercharger only 2 city I think
When they 15k or less in UK I will buy one 😂
Question What happens when Thailand has a flood and you wake up the next day and your EV is in 3 foot deep of water, will the battery still work ?
Will any car still work? After a flood.Are you ok?
yes
@foppo100 yes a ICE engine has a higher probability of working then a EV, a ICE has a long working history the electrics might need attention but how much is a new battery for a EV ?
I prefer the exhaust notes from my Abarth 695!
For sure, but with a 3.6s 0-60 the driver of the Zeekr X ain't never gonna get to hear them. He will be about 3 seconds ahead of you😂
@@DavidAndNong but I will have a nicer time leaving them behind around corners whilst enjoying my exhaust note! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
good morning Mr Clarkson !
Keep em coming 🎉
Hi David very interesting video me personally i have a Audi r-8 Quattro 2024 hybrid and i have f-150 lariat hybrid 2023 both i don't need to plug to charge that's good because in Quebec Canada we have many times electric failure so the best choice is what i have just before f-150 lariat 2019 gas and my hybrid give me 360km more range and i don't think 100% is good because we already have problems with electric power we are not ready to be everyone electric with our winter minus 25° to -35° it will cause a lot of problems my friend have a Tesla 2023 electric it pay 125,000cdn and last winter he didn't start like 7 times when it was very cold so me i don't trust full electric car. Have a excellent day David take care and stay safe. 🙏🙏🙏 Oh i forgot in Canada they put a big tax on car made in China to protect our product.
Yes I think the cold is an issue, especially for the range. I understand why they put tarrifs in place, but reality is just extra money for the government. Hybrids are interesting, I didn't show the latest BYD hybrid, but the reviews are very good. Here there is a huge network of chargers in the town... And the cold is never an issue 🙏🙏
@@DavidAndNong I was surprised I didn't know these models they are very nice and zeekr flagships sport beautiful and they look like very good quality and yeah the tariffs the government put it's to make more money in Canada it's insane the tax we pay we even pay a tax on a tax when I see the price of the cars in Thailand wow they are not so expensive. Me the price I pay for my truck f-150 lariat hybrid 2023 with tax it's 101,000$cdn and my Audi r-8 Quattro 2024 it's 400,000$cdn I know you would say I'm crazy but we just have one life to live and it's to short so I try to enjoy it the most and I can afford so why not I saw my Father so many times say I regrets I didn't do this or that so me I'm living my life at 100%. I got a question David if you know I see that the steering wheel is on the right side and I know you're driving opposite of us but me if I decide to live in Thailand like Pattaya can I bring my vehicles or since my steering wheel is on the left side it's not possible here it's possible to have this my friend bought a Austin Martin and steering wheel is on right side and it's OK.Have a excellent day David and take care and stay safe my friend and hoping that your wife Nong is headache is gone and she's feeling better. kopkounmakkrap. sawatdikrap. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
all electric cars are ripping us off , no expensive motor or gearbox to manufacture prices are similar , makes no sense to me
Where are all the public chargers 😮
Hundreds of them around the town. All of the shopping malls, Index, Central, T21, Lotus etc. Then also at the gas stations and many stand alone ones, like at EV garages etc. Definitely no shortage 🙏🙏
I drive a Tesla here in the states and wish there were more choices other than tesla....Kia and the big 3 just aren't up to snuff yet with tesla and of course we cannot get any of the Chinese cars which are miles above anything other than tesla...in fact they may be better....there is a new startup hopefully coming out quarter 2 next year....Aptera....a 3 wheel autocycle classified vehicle that claims to be able to get up to 40 Miles a day from solar.
Zeekre or Tesla for me
Its going to be cheaper there rather then uk cos cars not had too be shipped to uk and last time i looked its not free to get the cars here so all the extra add ons its bound to put the price up .. just common sense tells you that . Great video still but different headline needed lol
Lol over £13k difference to ship a car to UK compared to Thailand🤣🤣
@@DavidAndNong yea plus all the tax that gets put on top .plus uk allways pays over the top prices .cos we let our government do what they want ..uk needs to stand up n be counted .like i said just like everything else we pay more . We just noticed it more now when pound lost its value.
TAX!!!
Say no more.....
I got Ford mustang 5.0 GT, probley my last car I will ever have , dose the electric cars sound as nice as the mustang 🤣
You cant hear the Mustang, is too far behind 😂🙏
@@DavidAndNong Good one!
Don't believe the lies that EV's are not selling. Its all down to supply and demand, if people are prepared to pay the inflated UK prices then manufacturers will sell them at inflated prices. It is gradually changing now though and EV's will be cheaper in the UK than ICE in the very near future.
I'm sure you're right, For the market to grow the government's have to get the playing field more even, and build the infrastructure. 🙏🙏
Hi David, I have driven a used electric car since 2020, they are far superior and save you a fortune in fuel, therefore I think it will happen naturally. The only thing holding it back is miss-information pumped out by the oil industry desperate to protect its income, people are seeing through that though gradually now. Thank you for your weekly videos they offer me so much escapism from the UK.
Your brave getting in a car with him 😅
I’ll have you I’m accident free in over 40 years. 😊
@@keef6586 😁 I'll see you next Monday 👍
I am to old to waist my time in charging stations.
LOL! Charge at home, overnight when needed. The cars don't need to be charged every day, if one doesn't drive a lot, it could be days or weeks before you need to.
My friend drives less than 8000 km per year, so about 1 to 2 charges (coffee stops) per month. Many of the shopping centres have charging stations. No oil changes, less servicing. It's not perfect... but it's not the disaster that some of the media point to. On the plus side, to get that kind of performance in Thailand would cost several million baht and running costs would be considerably higher 🙏🙏
@@DavidAndNong I consider these a good vehicle for folks that are retired. I got n Audi etron back in 21, as they had a massive discount which brought it close to the price of the KIA Stinger I was driving. Yeah, it was missing a couple of features that the Stinger had and had less overall range but, charging at home was less than buying gas for the Stinger. Working on settling down in South East Asia and see all these well equipped, good range, low cost EV, makes me want to get one. I like the Zeekr X , well I prefer SUV/CUV now but, that Seal looks nice, is quick and have great range for long trips. Waiting to see what other stuff come out by the time we are settled and decide then.
nice Idea, but $45,000 USD... still high....
$12000-20,000 can buy a nice new energy car in China
They are still very expensive for the average Thai by comparison
No more than the normal ice cars 🙏
Nice car.
They all look ok but BYD, MG ,cars not for me ! I suspect Chinese manufacturing,I am a Toyota man will not change they never go wrong.Thanks for your video bit different from the usual restaurant visit
The MG quality was a bit suspect, the BYD however seemed a great finish. The Zeekr was on another level. These cars here cost similar amounts to a Mazda 3 or a Honda Civic. Still progressing, but you can see leaps and bounds in the technology nearly every month.
@@DavidAndNong Chinese brands sold outside of China have to meet the regulations and safety requirements of the county they are sold in. The Chinese have been building cars for many brands over the years and are utilizing those build process for their vehicles, which is why they can offer quality built EVs now, under their own name, while starting completely new brands, sharing similar under-pinning. Geely for example is the parent company for Volvo, Polestar, Lotus, Zeekr, Smart, Lynk and Co and others. Geely also makes its own line of vehicles and work in partnership with Proton in Malaysia and have now partnered with NIO in China for swapping batteries in their EVs.
BYD makes a whole line of cars in China that we don't see in foreign markets but, they are working on to export alongside the Seal, Atto 3 and Dolphin. Some of these vehicles are range extenders which we may or may not see outside of China. I've checked out the Seal, Atto 3 and Dolphin, while not a fan of the looks of the Dolphin and Atto 3, the interior is spacious and well made.
I have ridden in a couple of Grab cars which were by MG in Thailand, both ICE and EV and they look nice and have a lot of equipment inside. They certainly aren't strippers like "base" level ICE cars we are used to. Although I suspect with tarifs and the need to sell less priced cars, we may see that happening in the future. Currently all the EVs from China I see are using recycled material on their interior, the seats feels/looks like leather as well as an up level look and feel to the interior. Let's hope Toyota will release some better performing EVs than the BZ4 line soon.
Ev cars are so modern and way ahead of the old machines. diesel/gasolin are so expensive that electric power is about 5 times cheaper. Could be a problem if you stay on a flat at 7 floor tho.
And how do they produce the electric?
The whole point of going electric is to eliminate poisonous fumes coming out the exhaust pipe of petrol/diesel cars. The bonus is that electricity is cheaper per kWh than a litre of petrol/diesel.
@@darrellchurch3406 Thailand use a lot of oil and gas, and that is much cleaner than cars. Luckily wind and solar is popping up. For now only aprox 3%, but rapidly going up. Thailand has signed a agreement that they will go all green in 2035 (?)
@LonglingEriksen good luck with that one, I drove from Bangkok to Ubon today and the amount of old unroadworthy vehicles on the road was shocking.
@@darrellchurch3406 When Etiopia can do it, Thailand can. And Norway :) uphold the rules and its easier.
Nice video David. Lots of tech in EVs but for me Nio are best cars with battery swap option. Yes, great prices shown.
Just NEVER throw water on a burning Lithium battery! The reaction is as similar to throwing gasoline onto a fire!
Just take your newly purchased electric car back to the distributors and enquire as per its current value!! Be prepared to be shocked!
I think pretty much the same with any new vehicle.. Taxes
@@DavidAndNong Depreciation is far greater on EV's than traditionally powered vehicles!
@@senianns9522and they are a lot cheaper to start with.
I would never buy ev.
I've used my electric bike for over a year now and been pleasantly surprised by it 🙏🙏
the batteries are 30 grand
Wow you said 20,000 a couple of days ago. That’s some inflation.
an >>E.V....is a throw away item when batteries are dud....£20,000 minimum for a new battery system.....its like a milkfloat and mobile phones you throw away when batteries are dud....E.V.s...are a throw away item......DONT BUY A MILKFLOAT.....the best advice you will ever get....
Clearly, someone is misinformed. Does an ICE engine stop working after the warranty runs out? Batteries are warrantied for 8-10 (varies by manufacturer and countries) years in most vehicles, to retain 60-70% (probably more in some countries) of their rated capacity. Yes, you will lose some range over time, just like an ICE vehicle. Some may want to replace the battery or replace the car, businesses are starting to refurbish/refresh individual depleted cells, making the need for a full battery replacement unnecessary. Some companies are looking into making the battery an item you rent, instead of buy, with the option of swapping to a higher capacity version for long trips. Sadly, Tesla showed battery swapping, in the US years ago but never implemented it. NIO in China has this for a few years now and other manufacturers are signing on to use their battery swap stations.
New batteries are being made with longer range, faster charging speeds and soon longer life, cost will come down for the batteries, making EVs cost less. Things will get better over time.
you should learn about EV thermal runnays before having anything to do with EV's. They are potentially very dangerous and no resale value
ev,s are as good as scottish PIES....555
don,t buy an eletric car..until you have watched the macmaster ev,s....on you tube.....i wouldn,t have an eletric car for free....seriously......dont buy an .E.V>>
Yeah you said about a zillion times
The Macmasters videos are proven miss-information. Anti EV clap trap gets clips and hence revenue.
atto3 sells for 600,000-800,000 baht in China
Cant look at mobile phone when driving in uk but these cars have massive screen to look at ,another crazy rule ,all cars with massive screens should be banned for safety reasons
Exactly what i think when i see huge screens with all sorts on
Big screens are marketing gimmicks which can distract an undisciplined driver and cause accidents because a driver's full attention is not on the road. I think car makers won't remove them because otherwise a competitor will sell more cars. That will only happen if governments ban them for safety reasons.
have big screens on every car now, what you on?
David you must be getting paid to promote these electric cars they are nearly at Zero sales in Europe they have no resale value and even the dealers won't take them back that just shows how bad they are
@@josephbrophy8113 Chinese tariff ....oil head
Never done a sponsored video, I genuinely was just helping a friend with his car shopping and thought people may be interested. Here the market is being embraced, probably because the cars are not over priced as in Europe and UK. Audi TTs performance for 1/3rd of the price (in Thailand).
Not so sure on that claim.
In Norway and Denmark in Europe EV cars sell well.
Europe and US is selling Evs as usual. Most sold cars. But European Electric made are not. See the difference? Must be boring to be the guy that are always wrong.
Wow if you want to buy a Tesla in the USA drop your shorts because any model is expensive. Awesome reporting David THANK YOU 😊👍👏