Autism and the Police

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  • Опубліковано 21 січ 2025

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  • @samuelthomascousins818
    @samuelthomascousins818 6 років тому +16

    I have autism, and Hampshire Police are the worst force ever for dealing with it.
    I was falsely accused of a crime by some people I fell out with. Three officers came to my uni halls of residence, Malcolm Long, Ryan Cheyne and Stephanie Cummins.
    I said I hadn't done anything and refused to go with them. I had a panic attack and they beat me up, threw me on the floor, and kicked me, before tying my hands behind my back and then completely destroying my room.
    In the interview, PC Philipa Boothe kept asking me loaded questions, and kept winding me up.
    I got let out two days later, and they had stolen my PC and phone, and refused to give them back. This made me extremely angry, so I called them 80 plus times a day saying I wanted them back. I also called PC Boothe many times to tell her what a piece of shit she was.
    Overall it was the worst experience of my life, and I am at home on benefits now because of what it did to me (PTSD). I would've been a biomedical scientist, but these police took my life from me. They must be punished accordingly.

    • @rosiebloom7333
      @rosiebloom7333 6 років тому +2

      durham police will pepper spary, taser and handcuff you while having meltdown not to mention bring an army of police along including dog handlers, thats what they did to my son he is now in prison facing section 18 through bunch of back ward uneducated thugs

    • @samuelthomascousins818
      @samuelthomascousins818 6 років тому +5

      @@rosiebloom7333 That's awful! The police have no regard for mental health issues at all.
      I'm currently in the process of suing them, but I would like to get people together who have had these things happen to them. I know of two others.

    • @samuelthomascousins818
      @samuelthomascousins818 6 років тому +3

      @@rosiebloom7333 Also, you're right about the uneducated bit. I've actually recently requested under Freedom of Information the average IQ and level of qualifications of Dorset Police constables.
      At least in the Armed Forces, though they may not understand mental health, you have to be above average intelligence to join, and respect for others is drilled into you.

    • @samuelthomascousins818
      @samuelthomascousins818 4 роки тому

      @Pat Terson I was repeating first year. First time around I was doing alright until people in my group of "friends" started gaslighting and manipulating me. It made me depressed, frustrated, and upon discovering what had happened, angry. After they'd gotten what they wanted, they couldn't accept that I needed justice for what they did to me. They turned me into something I didn't want to become, and something they didn't want me to become, and some of the meds I was put on made me worse.
      After a break for the summer, I thought I might try to let go, and try again fresh. These "friends" from the last year had other plans, and even though the police should've known my fragile mental state, what they did on the 21st of September 2014 made my life worse than I could even ever have imagined. And when I started demanding apologies and my property back, they did it twice more.
      5½ years later I'm still struggling with it. I have my family taking legal action on my behalf, but because of certain coping mechanisms I took to get through days when I really thought I'd just end it, it's severely affected my ability to learn, so I'll never go back to uni. The best I can hope for is some compensation and a formal apology for what they did.

    • @samuelthomascousins818
      @samuelthomascousins818 4 роки тому

      @Pat Terson Thanks, that means a lot. In the past few years I've had to learn to be less trusting of people.
      But I no longer think that uni is an option. Biomed was hard even when I didn't have depression & PTSD, let alone how my coping mechanisms affected me.
      I do hope someday i can get better, but without closure with the police's situation I see no way forwards.

  • @claresamways9534
    @claresamways9534 9 років тому +23

    Excellent -- This should be shared amongst all the other Police divisions in the UK.

  • @NimhShambler
    @NimhShambler 5 років тому +5

    I have autism and cops scare me. I'm always afraid I'm breaking some law I don't know about and they're going to arrest me or I'll say or do something stupid and they'll arrest me.
    The eye-contact thing, too. I'm scared they'll think I'm lying since I can't look them in the eyes and arrest me for something I didn't even do and since I'm poor, I'll end up with a crappy lawyer and go to jail.

  • @mksabourinable
    @mksabourinable 9 років тому +11

    Actually what that lady said about eye contact in relation to lying is completely false. It's actually a common misconception that someone avoiding eye contact means that they are lying. In fact if someone focuses on your eyes they are more likely to be lying, and if they look away while telling a story, thinking of an answer, etc. it just means that they are thinking or trying to imagine what happened.

    • @unknownpornstar2327
      @unknownpornstar2327 3 роки тому +1

      Yh cause I have autism and when I’m lying I deliberately try my hardest to keep eye contact

  • @mrromeo6036
    @mrromeo6036 4 роки тому +2

    I haave autism.. Once I was stopped and searched and I asked what is the reason for me being stopped.. I was told because I was avoiding eye contact with them. True story

  • @hayley20475
    @hayley20475 7 років тому +4

    whats the app called

  • @jonbowzy511
    @jonbowzy511 4 роки тому +3

    that's Alice from undateables 1:45 and 2:14

  • @jesuschristneverlived6938
    @jesuschristneverlived6938 8 років тому +8

    2:19
    Alice from the undateables? xD

  • @TheWackoGreenAlien
    @TheWackoGreenAlien 8 років тому +2

    What is the app from 4:04 called?

  • @christopheuhlin7309
    @christopheuhlin7309 5 років тому +1

    Great video and great work on the part of the police. Years ago back home in France I was stopped and questioned by the police just for a routine check and due to me being Autistic( I didn't know it at the time ) they thought I looked and acted suspicious. I was questioned for a long time as they believed they were on to something. The whole thing was deeply upsetting and uncomfortable.

  • @mattsnooker
    @mattsnooker 7 років тому +21

    I went to prison due to my meltdowns 😞

    • @rosiebloom7333
      @rosiebloom7333 6 років тому +7

      my son is in prison due to police over reacting

    • @EthereallaASMR
      @EthereallaASMR 6 років тому +7

      I was committed into a psychiatric hospital because my meltdown was mistaken for a psychotic episode.

    • @CameraMan66
      @CameraMan66 6 років тому +3

      That sucks, I've got autism as well

    • @hankscorpiouk
      @hankscorpiouk 6 років тому +1

      @@rosiebloom7333 Rosie, have you spoken to your local MP and the National Autistic Society?

    • @conacher7998
      @conacher7998 5 років тому +2

      I live in Scotland so they do fuck all about it

  • @savinabatres2836
    @savinabatres2836 9 років тому +4

    I have autism

  • @EW1234-c3d
    @EW1234-c3d 5 місяців тому

    Where was that filmed

  • @michaelmarinko676
    @michaelmarinko676 3 роки тому

    I'm asking, too - what is the app called ? I'm in the southern central US (Texas) - I've initially typed in the keywords as to what he said & I haven't found it yet.

  • @Mikedadof2
    @Mikedadof2 8 років тому +1

    What is the app called and how much

  • @JudgeMarmianWiZard
    @JudgeMarmianWiZard 3 роки тому

    some of us DONT have smartphones though as i disaprove of them

  • @mrromeo6036
    @mrromeo6036 4 роки тому +1

    The world is a really dangerous place for people with autism. I know this from personal experience.. I was uprooted from a safe environment and placed into a crime/gang ridden neighbourhood. God only knows how I'm alive today.

  • @hominidaetheodosia
    @hominidaetheodosia 2 роки тому

    Well I told the arresting officers I had autism but that was completely ignored I was offered no support I was illegally arrested the charges were later dropped but in the meantime it enabled criminals to steal all of my possessions I’ve got no legal support- I even had myself protect the vulnerable adult and that was ignored by the police on the last on three occasions which they openly admitted I was assaulted in the cell I was threatened with physical violence by the police as a form of coercion I was falsely arrested and falsely imprisoned and I still cannot find anyone who will help me legally after nine months of being homeless with autism people don’t care about people with autism and then they wonder why they die more often..
    This video is so reassuring for people I guess that’s the point of it, don’t be fooled by this video there are huge problems that are not being addressed and things are not improving! And when they go wrong there is no redress legal or otherwise!

  • @s.b.palmer2953
    @s.b.palmer2953 6 років тому +1

    So it's hard to tell because people have different types

    • @chrissame
      @chrissame 6 років тому

      Yes, VERY hard. Its even harder then what it shows here because Autism is a massive spectrum. You could meet someone, communicate with them very good, and they appear very normal to you and still be Autistic.

  • @chaos-exert-da
    @chaos-exert-da 5 років тому +2

    im close to going to jail and the bad thing is the police actually started it and wont tell the truth very close to suicde most days becasue of police in norfolk

  • @EvlynWilson
    @EvlynWilson 3 місяці тому

    I'm autistic and have had a lot of police friend s. I don't think they understand autism very well. We are gentle and kind and helpful and good most of our lives. But just like normal people we can make mistakes and get into trouble with police 🚓 but I love police and hopefully they see that I'm actually nice.

  • @rosiebloom7333
    @rosiebloom7333 6 років тому +1

    my son is facing section 18 with intent after a bunch of stupid police terrorized him during meltdown what should have been a simple procedure turned into a battle field i saw how caring they were first hand when they peppered sparyed and handcuffed him brought dog handlers and would have tasered him had i not stood in front.

  • @krnv4
    @krnv4 8 років тому +5

    I'm sorry but I think those name tags dehumanize people with intellectual disabilities.

    • @louisnixon4333
      @louisnixon4333 6 років тому +7

      Jon Page autism isn't always an intellectual disability people with high functioning autism have above average intelligence

  • @danielthompson8423
    @danielthompson8423 9 років тому +3

    I have Autism as well

    • @FixersUK
      @FixersUK  9 років тому

      +Daniel Thompson Thank you for commenting.

    • @emmag5458
      @emmag5458 6 років тому

      Same here

  • @CHLOE-gj3ut
    @CHLOE-gj3ut 4 роки тому +1

    yes i was pulled over for looking suspisious i wasnt i am just having like self stimming

  • @ericwilson6994
    @ericwilson6994 5 років тому

    'Crimson Tide' odd thing to say on a phone call.

  • @tobeytransport2802
    @tobeytransport2802 4 роки тому

    Why do they care about eye contact?! They do it to me at school a lot too for some reason?

    • @Widdekuu91
      @Widdekuu91 3 роки тому

      People with autism (stereotypically!) avoid eye-contact or they stare.

    • @tobeytransport2802
      @tobeytransport2802 3 роки тому

      @@Widdekuu91 I know. I’m autistic. I’m tryna say that when I used to go to school (I left cause I’m 16) they never cared.

    • @tobeytransport2802
      @tobeytransport2802 3 роки тому

      @@Widdekuu91 I’m also tryna say why do they care? Why do they need eye contact anyway?

    • @Widdekuu91
      @Widdekuu91 3 роки тому +1

      @@tobeytransport2802 Well, usually people use the eyes, which are in many ways, very telling, to determine what you mean or want or how you feel.
      Many songs include; 'Looking into your eyes, I can see the love (or pain, or fear or other emotions.)
      Or; 'I realize, I can see it in your eyes.' 'Look into my eyes' 'When we locked eyes across a crowded room' etc.
      It's a very direct way of communicating. Staring someone into the eyes can be friendly, aggressive, apologetic, loving, confused, etc.
      Sometimes people feel it's too direct (people with autism can feel overwhelmed or feel threatened/scared when they're being looked into the eyes)
      And some just don't "feel" that need to look other people into the eyes. Average people use the eyes to read emotions from.

  • @Widdekuu91
    @Widdekuu91 4 роки тому

    I'm confused, so many people in the comments get upset over the use of the phrase; 'that have got *the* autism.'
    Is that a problem? The way he phrased it?

    • @penglingwhisperer3382
      @penglingwhisperer3382 3 роки тому

      The preferred way of saying it is “the autistic person” or “the person with autism”. Usually people with disabilities prefer the second option “a I am a person with a disability” because they don’t see their disability as an integral part of their identity. But with autism, many autistic people prefer to say “i’m autistic`’ rather than a’ I have autism`; because they see their autism as part of who they are. Both ways are ok but most autistic people prefer the first “autistic person”.

    • @Widdekuu91
      @Widdekuu91 3 роки тому

      @@penglingwhisperer3382
      Right, well I'm autistic and I honestly don't care and I don't know anyone that does. But thanks for the explanation.
      Maybe it's a cultural difference. I live in the Netherlands and we tend to be more direct and plain and clear. As an autist, I like that, because it's not a hassle and you don't have to overthink your sentences or what someone means (by that last part, I mean, if someone says; 'Her disability' I might stare at someone and go; 'Well she is autistic, bipolar and she hurt her hand recently, which is it?")

  • @tomdapolska4429
    @tomdapolska4429 8 років тому +8

    I think it's really obvious who is and isn't tbh

    • @Independent-xl3st
      @Independent-xl3st 7 років тому +2

      It might be very hard to distinguish people with high-functioning autism from the neurotypical ones. It may present additional challenges to police officers, so it is really important for them to identify the condition as early as possible in the course of interaction.

    • @sleepingat10
      @sleepingat10 7 років тому +2

      you wouldn't know that I'm autistic just by looking at me but I am!

    • @dicer31
      @dicer31 6 років тому

      I thought is was the coppper who had autism.

    • @wookiecd
      @wookiecd 6 років тому +1

      Many of us with milder traits sometimes pass for neurotypical. Despite our best efforts we can seem 'off' and present the sort of demeanor police might interpret as guilt or being affected by drugs.
      Education efforts like this are incredibly important under the social model of disability, where it's recognized that many of the worst effects of Autism on our lives actually stem from our treatment by society.
      More on the models:
      ua-cam.com/video/YPMEjD8uEsQ/v-deo.html

  • @whatlifeis1069
    @whatlifeis1069 3 роки тому

    2021: lookup the sunflower lanyard project!

  • @ronaldmcdonald8303
    @ronaldmcdonald8303 7 років тому

    I have Asperger's, and when your in the system the care industry latch on to you like limpets. I have never had a problem with the police, but I HAVE had with different institution when all I wanted was to go to a normal school. I know if I hade gone to a school of my choice I would have succeeded. Instead I have been passed around from one crappy institution to the other. I don't care how much people try to tell me that I need them. Mainstream schools are 1 million times better than any special needs or alternative schools and colleges. All they have ever done to me is lie to me and abuse and neglect me. ) :< BASTARDS. The police are professional and polite, unlike the corrupt money grabbing care industry. I did not need any of the crappy care homes and special schools that I was forced to go to. I want to work for Monsanto as a geneticist. SCREW the Glass House college, SCREW alternative, I like mainstream and I HATE care homes.

    • @davidsimmons8765
      @davidsimmons8765 7 років тому +3

      I went to the glass house college in stourbridge, it was more like a concentration camp rather than an institute of education, they treated the speacial needs people like cattle. Also! The care facilities were heavily insufficient,when I was in the independent flat in south road i couldn't have a craft knife in my presence due to health and safety, however water leaking near electrical sockets from the washing machine & the power tripping where you had to go down a pitch black basement with old Victorian steps to break your neck on to find the damn switch box seemed fine to them..... I totally agree with you! The current care system is like a parasite to someone with Aspergers! There a leech sucking all your independence away. :/

    • @ronaldmcdonald8303
      @ronaldmcdonald8303 7 років тому

      Their food was so bad I once went for 5 whole days living off only tap water. When I complained about the food, all they did was argue with me and fob me off. When I had a kidney stone, I was not even giving aspirin, I was in total agony for 3 whole days and when I demanded to go to hospital, all they did was tell me to ring 999, they couldn't give a flying fuck about my care or education, £200,000 a year for almost NOTHING< FUCK the Glass House. BASTARDS!!!!

    • @ronaldmcdonald8303
      @ronaldmcdonald8303 7 років тому

      Yes, you are totally right. All I have ever wanted since I was 13, was to go to a mainstream school. Instead of a nice clean modern run of the mill school, I have been to all sorts of scruffy, in sufficient horrible run down shit holes, ESPECIALLY the GHC! There is NOTHING wrong with the mainstream, I totally boycott organic, alternative, pagan, vegan and all that crap. The reason mainstream is mainstream is because it WORKS. When I did eventually go to a proper college after the GHC, I nearly got an A in maths. If I had just got what I wanted all those years ago, I would have never been arrested, put in care or sectioned. my whole adult and teen aged life has been a down hill struggle, made worse and worse by the so called care "industry" who only care about money and are largely incompetent, money grabbing liars. The GHC is definitely the worst place I have ever been, and I went to a school for 3 years that treated me like a piece of shit. Then I went to a school full of self harming, bitch, nasty wierdos, then I went to the,.. GLASS HOUSE!!!! I was nearly made homeless by them and when I left, (thank god) I was slung into a care home and had all my liberties and freedoms removed. The GHC's food is quite frankly the WORST food I have EVER had, PERIOD. Their food is SO bad, I once went for 5 days in a row eating absolutely NOTHING but tap water. Their hygiene was terrible, their students were nasty, their house parents a bunch of foolish sanctimonious morons, especially one woman whom I shall not name. I may be "Asperger's" but I am NOT stupid, not by a long way. I can remember when I was in serious pain for 3 days, and I did not even get asprin, all I was told by them was to call 999 and they couldn't even be bothered a 5 minuet journey to the hospital. I have all sorts of lies on my paper work, thanks to these bastards. May I ask you, what did you think of their food?
      The reason 99% of the population go to normal schools is because they work well for 99% of children. I do not even have a job because of the GHC, their so called "qualifications" are worth virtually nothing and the paper they are printed on is probably worth more as compost. £200,000 a year for NOTHING almost! OCN, more like organic crappy nonsense! The GHC is the worst institution I have ever been subject to. And I have seen round several crappy, run down piles of dog shit. They call themselves professionals, yet I would rather trust a homeless drug addict to run a bank or a serial killer to be a baby sitter.
      All these morons could do was neglect me, lie to me and boast about their TERRIBLE food, what horrible food. I have been to pubs and takeaways that were shut down by safety inspectors that did MUCH better food than the shitty ****ing GHC.

    • @c.darwin9259
      @c.darwin9259 6 років тому +1

      I Love Ronald McDonald He Is Cool I’m in a very similar situation my dude. Special schools are crap and full of retards, us high functioning people don’t belong there.

  • @mrromeo6036
    @mrromeo6036 4 роки тому

    That woman at 2:18 is on undateables

    • @Olls0010
      @Olls0010 4 роки тому

      Is that all you care about?

  • @sandiefoster7694
    @sandiefoster7694 9 років тому

    At last!!

  • @koalafromtomorrow5656
    @koalafromtomorrow5656 4 роки тому

    It not a training matter police think they god it collelty

  • @MissJuneBennett
    @MissJuneBennett 7 років тому

    Might bit of a problem here. I guessed correctly on only one, dude in orange but that was a wild guess. Only because was told before hand he might have it. Otherwise have seen heroin addicts act just like that. The female, another problem she looked and acted like a meth addict, never even guessed she was. Not bashing her but lady you need to get Proactiv or a lot of Police Officers will think what I was. Drugs are rampant so it's only logical Officers think that is what the problem is.

    • @Widdekuu91
      @Widdekuu91 3 роки тому

      Right, but there is a very clear solution to this.
      You go; 'Hello young lady, no need to freak out. May I ask, please, for you to show me the inside of your elbow? We won't touch you, don't worry! We keep our distance!'
      She shows the inside of her elbows (or calls someone that assures her she can safely do it) and they see no heroin-needle-wounds. Case solved.

    • @MissJuneBennett
      @MissJuneBennett 3 роки тому

      @@Widdekuu91 Some junkies shoot between their toes or bellybutton so the marks can't be seen. Either way, look it from the officer's prospective one who deals with junkies everyday. Several in that lineup looked like they could be one.

    • @Widdekuu91
      @Widdekuu91 3 роки тому

      @@MissJuneBennett Well if they work with junkies every day, they should be seeing different characteristics in that as well.
      It's still not necessary to (with force) arrest someone.

  • @ericwilson6994
    @ericwilson6994 5 років тому

    CIA video. 'Crimson Tide'

  • @paullandrum3666
    @paullandrum3666 6 років тому +3

    I have autism