Chinese J-20 and J-16 fighter production rates are going through the roof

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2022
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    Each year, the Chinese Air Forces seemingly got more and more new planes than before. This video will provide the 2022 numbers. And show when the future Chinese fleet might rival the US one in numbers.
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  • @Binkov
    @Binkov  Рік тому +78

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    • @masterofsnatch1645
      @masterofsnatch1645 Рік тому +2

      You should really take 10 seconds to learn about geography and Geo location

    • @-The-Grim-Reaper-
      @-The-Grim-Reaper- Рік тому +1

      China's military is the cheap knockoff of the Russian military. I don't expect much from them 🥱

    • @valorz6064
      @valorz6064 Рік тому +5

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    • @ashg1587
      @ashg1587 Рік тому

      Politics is good vs bad to win over the nation Military is quality vs quantity to win over the battle theater so even with a higher quantity production can the quality match it’s limited counterparts as we see in Russia even the quality of soldiers matter more than the quantity take a look at Halo 5 Guardians, the 4 runners is what they call ‘em qualified Spartans vs a few thousand obviously outnumbered but the went through the whole game while probably millions have died by their hands. Just sayin quality not quantity. The quality of our 4th gen fighters vs 5th gen

    • @ashg1587
      @ashg1587 Рік тому

      Even if it isn’t the most cost effective I would still like to see 1000 f-22 in our arsenal

  • @pabcu2507
    @pabcu2507 Рік тому +1510

    All of this wouldn’t happened if steiner had conducted his counter attack

  • @chaosXP3RT
    @chaosXP3RT Рік тому +148

    Reading some of these comments, I think it's dangerous to underestimate any opponent, especially when it comes to something as serious and deadly as war. Of course, the Russian military did not prove to be as... potent as many had thought and feared, but it's better to find out during the conflict that your opponent is weaker than you rather than just assuming so. Chinese fighter jets seem to be well-designed and on par with many Western jets. Even if they're slightly less capable than Western fighter aircraft, sufficient numbers may still be enough to keep up with their Western counterparts. I was China, I would not underestimate the US Air Force and if I was the USA, I would not underestimate the Chinese Air Force

    • @giupetr968
      @giupetr968 Рік тому +6

      I think it's important to pay attention to anyone, but chinese tech is not so good. Poor and low quality.

    • @SabinStargem
      @SabinStargem Рік тому

      I think that if China has a weakness, it would be the culture of corruption. Russia HAD a huge inventory of stuff, but corruption turned those stockpiles into liabilities. While I expect some of China's gear to be pretty decent, the big question is whether their logistics are in good health. Say, to ensure their amphibious troops can land on a certain piece of land without sinking midway, or finding their rifles firing blanks.
      If I were a member of USA's intelligence bloc, I would be keeping an eye on whether China is reforming their logistic chain to resist corruption. That would indicate whether China is serious about conquering Taiwan, or is just a papyrus tiger.

    • @CircusJeanie2399
      @CircusJeanie2399 Рік тому +12

      @@Hrotiberhtaz Do you think China is completely ignoring what's going on in Ukraine. I'm sure they are studying it in great detail, and parades are not a sign of weakness. If that were the case we would have been considered weak if Trump had his way. Also the US's current military experiences are null and void because they were against an organized insurgence not a near peer military with modern technology.

    • @MrPeterzhu
      @MrPeterzhu Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/fxXuBmlD8cI/v-deo.html

    • @walterblack7233
      @walterblack7233 Рік тому

      @@giupetr968 Last time I argued with a Chinese guy who thought a single Liaoning carrier combat group could annihilate the entire Indian navy and air force.You two are just the same,purely brainles haters.

  • @andrewhirsch6472
    @andrewhirsch6472 Рік тому +29

    The reckless optimists on this comment board creep me out--I hope they don't have any influence in the U.S. defense establishment. They rather remind me of those dolts who insisted it couldn't have been the Japanese who carried out that attack on Pearl Harbor, it must have been German pilots in those Japanese planes, and what about those cheap Japanese goods exported to the U.S. in the 20s and 30s? They were crap, so Japanese military equipment must be crap. The optimists were, of course, humiliated by actual events, and huge numbers of good people died because of it. Hope for the best, folks, but prepare for the worst.

    • @2penetration451
      @2penetration451 Рік тому +9

      Agree, but I will still mock the Chinese Arms just to annoy them. They're easily triggered and funny. But of course still prepare for the worse. Even quantity can outnumber the quality. Nazi Germany experienced it against the Soviet Union.

    • @cspdx11
      @cspdx11 Рік тому

      US doesn't produce the brain power to keep pace with future Chinese developments. Look at the universities, all foreigners in engineering, physics, chemistry advanced degree programs.

    • @rogersmith7396
      @rogersmith7396 Рік тому

      Yeah I hear the Chinese are going to take over San Francisco chop suey shops. Horror, the horror.

  • @Liberty_or_Ded
    @Liberty_or_Ded Рік тому +21

    "Their premiere J-20 outdoing the F-22's peak production numbers"
    I'll be honest, given how limited the F-22's production numbers were, that isn't particularly impressive.
    If they can beat the F-16's production numbers, THEN I'll be impressed, because they crank those things out like crazy.

    • @michaelwen5540
      @michaelwen5540 Рік тому +2

      The problem is China's rather lacking industrial foundation, there are a lot of components that China either has difficulties making with a reasonable budget or simply cannot make themselves, and thus need to be imported, but these components are considered military grade hardware and can only be imported en mass from a handful of countries like Russia. Sometimes I wonder if Russia and China's combined can even keep up with this level of production rate. You can output J-20s and J-16s as fast as F-16s but it won't work if most of them cannot get their engines.

    • @Liberty_or_Ded
      @Liberty_or_Ded Рік тому +1

      @@michaelwen5540 Yeah that's another thing. Building these jets is one thing. Keeping up the supplies of parts for maintenance and refit, especially when they have to be flying constantly to maintain pilot familiarity, is an entirely different beast, as Russia has demonstrated with the dismal performance of its air force against Ukraine.

    • @mrmacias4217
      @mrmacias4217 Рік тому +3

      Dude the f-16 has been built since the late 80S 💀

    • @weasle2904
      @weasle2904 Рік тому +4

      A better comparison would be the F-35, and the US is still producing a shit ton of those.

    • @rh906
      @rh906 Рік тому +3

      @@michaelwen5540 Their "One Industry, One Enterprise" attempt at making mega-monopolies I think is their attempt at fixing this. But I expect it to go terribly bad for them since it doesn't fix the underlying reason they have so much money embezzled/improperly invested: relational corruption and failing upwards because said relational corruption. They are just going to make officials even more rich.

  • @peaceyteavo
    @peaceyteavo Рік тому +29

    Lots of cope in these comments. China is getting strong, and quickly. We need to accept and address it.

    • @giupetr968
      @giupetr968 Рік тому +5

      Just numbers, no quality

    • @whiteshark450
      @whiteshark450 Рік тому +12

      @@giupetr968 What years do you live in? China is the second country to sent missions on mars.... and the only country that built an entire space station alone.

    • @tomwanks9123
      @tomwanks9123 Рік тому +2

      its not cope, its a note for us to get stronger lmao
      if theyre getting stronger, so should we
      its should be a constant

    • @JLA1899
      @JLA1899 Рік тому +1

      How’s their economy going?

    • @quinndenver4075
      @quinndenver4075 Рік тому +3

      @@giupetr968 the j-16 and j-20 are probably very capable fighters. The j-20 is probably the 3rd most potent fighter in the world (after f-22 and f-35)

  • @cubsmeow1855
    @cubsmeow1855 Рік тому +44

    As a Chinese, I can't say how good my country's fighter jets are, but I know that American fighter jets are good. Underestimating the enemy will always make you fail, so I believe that we Chinese people will strive to make our products better, rather than blindly belittle others.

    • @mohitmathur908
      @mohitmathur908 Рік тому +5

      Bravo China!

    • @f9658
      @f9658 Рік тому +8

      Don’t worry. The West is just more experienced in dropping bombs and flying their planes over countries with no modern Air defence, Air Force, and radars. China is not very experienced but they do not have the mentality of underestimating competitors.

    • @skytron22
      @skytron22 Рік тому +3

      @@f9658 lmfao another copy paste comment?? Let the grown ups talk, tiny dunce

    • @dddddh1
      @dddddh1 Рік тому +4

      I'm not as modest as you, j20 is the best fighter in the world, f22 is not bad but at least not comparable to j20. It's just that the US controlled public opinion doesn't want to admit it. Look at this blogger's map of China and you'll know all about it.

    • @skytron22
      @skytron22 Рік тому +1

      @@dddddh1 lmao what? 5th gen fighters, all of them, haven’t had much of any real world testing. China’s has even less than the f22, so idk how you’re making such out of pocket claims. I mean, I know why you are, blind patriotism for the CCP. But kinda hard to be patriotic to a one party system that routinely kills civilians without a care in the world. And mind you, that sentiment is as true in the us as it is in China, so don’t even try and start doing typical Chinese finger pointing and deflection

  • @HenryTitor
    @HenryTitor Рік тому +31

    Comments: China is a warmongering nation
    Also comments: China has no war experience in 40 years
    I can’t anymore😂

    • @abbabubba
      @abbabubba Рік тому

      Them keyboard warriors🤣🤣🤣

    • @ArmySigs
      @ArmySigs Рік тому +2

      Were you living under a rock when the CCP told everyone in China they were going to war with the US if Pelosi went to Taiwan? And when they fired all those missiles afterwards? What was happening then, were they fighting off an attack from the Dolphins? The CCP threatens more countries with violence than any other government on Earth, just because they are a paper tiger doesn't mean they aren't warmongers

    • @HenryTitor
      @HenryTitor Рік тому

      @@ArmySigs ??? Were you living under the rock in the past 20 years? At least million dead already in middle east. And at least 14 million became refugees directly caused by US leveling the entire region.Not to mention Yemen, Chile, Cuba, and many other countries which suffered and continue to suffer either under direct Bombing, attempted coup d’état, or out right international blockade by US order.
      What? Threatening people is worse than literally killing millions now?

    • @peterdonlon2083
      @peterdonlon2083 Рік тому

      Those are not mutually exclusive

    • @myfacern7232
      @myfacern7232 Рік тому

      But does the U.S have an ongoing genocide in their borders though? Also, that's a false equivalency, the Middle Eastern conflicts the U.S waged are very different in justification and intentions than the conflict the Chinese keep boasting about starting and winning in Taiwan.

  • @Absolut531kmh
    @Absolut531kmh Рік тому +27

    The comment section is cursed

    • @ferdiansyahhilmi3016
      @ferdiansyahhilmi3016 Рік тому +1

      Yeah so toxic

    • @BT-qs7id
      @BT-qs7id Рік тому

      Not as cursed as communist BRAINWASHED 🤪 China and VODKA 🥴 Russia 😆🤣

    • @jupiter3678
      @jupiter3678 Рік тому +1

      Yankee bots vs CCP bots

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 Рік тому +10

    IF they are building planes like they put buildings together......it is not a big deal. Chinese navy does not have range.

  • @broworm1
    @broworm1 Рік тому +18

    You're comparing production numbers from China, to USAF deliveries of planes. US is also producing way more F-35s for its allies, like japan (23+120 future), south korea (40) which the US would never go to war without.
    Yes china's numbers are quite impressive for just one country, but it's still nowhere near enough to match a realistic setting.

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 Рік тому +3

      actually he's comparing the planes delivered to the chinese military to the planes delivered to the usa military.
      and the total numbers for each military.
      however many planes they sell to other countries is 100% irrelevant.

    • @broworm1
      @broworm1 Рік тому

      ​@@sabin97 Actually really not irrelevant, since the video literally has 'production rates' in the title. Why not compare production numbers? It's misleading in this instance. China nearly 100% produces for its own military, and then it's compared to delivery numbers of the US forces.
      I'm not trying to shill for the US & allies, I just think the basis of comparison for this video is flawed.

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 Рік тому +2

      @@broworm1
      oh yes. the title says "production rates" but the video is NOT about production rates, but about the rates of acquisition.
      yeah. the name doesnt make the thing.
      for example there's a country named the people's democratic republic of korea.
      it has "democratic" in the name. and yet it's not democratic.
      so yeah. the thing being compared in this video is the rate of acquisition of the chinese military vs the rate of acquisition of the usakistani military.
      that's why usakistan and china plane sales are not used.
      hopefully that cleared that up.

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 Рік тому

      When Blinkov said China's expanding floor space he didn't give much context so it's understandable to not appreciating it's implications.
      To put things into perspective, almost all F-35s are currently assembled at the massive USAF Plant 4 in Fort Worth, Texas.
      At the same time, just the expansion at China's Chengdu plant over the last 4 years totalled the an area larger than the entire USAF Plant 4, you can see this cleary using Google Earth historical imagery.
      And that's in addition to the equally massive expansion at Shengyang.
      In other words, in the last 4 years China added 1.5x to 2x more fighter production capacity than the entire US F-35 production capacity, that's in addition to previous capacity, and those plants are just starting to ramp up.
      This is naval shipbuilding all over again, planes are harder to count than ships but even then this massive expansion is going to become very obvious in a few years.

    • @knightking2036
      @knightking2036 Рік тому

      No offense but yes I would rather have the U.S quality made jets rather than a quantity of Tofu fighter jets.

  • @BloodnSteel
    @BloodnSteel Рік тому +76

    Very good coverage, and a lot of vital info and imagery here. Though one has to wonder what the PLA's Pilot numbers and training hours are like now. You can build all the Jets you want, but without sufficient Staff they're just gonna be grounded anyway.

    • @archangel7052
      @archangel7052 Рік тому +30

      PLA fighter pilots now get twice the amount of flying time than US fighter pilots, according to Gen Kenneth Wilsbach, Commander of the Pacific Air Forces.

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Рік тому +25

      @@archangel7052 From what I've heard many PLA pilots are still quite dissatisfied with how rigid and broken China's command structure is, allegedly they are seeing some improvements with this, still, China definitely has lots of growing pains to handle thanks to how, I guess, 'sedentary' they have been for a while.

    • @codyweaver7546
      @codyweaver7546 Рік тому

      I too would like to see numbers and information on PLAAF and PLAN pilot training regimens.
      Stick time is one of the true indicators of performance

    • @LOL-zu1zr
      @LOL-zu1zr Рік тому +9

      @@jaek__ that was before the recent reforms. The golden helmet tournaments had pilots making up their own maneuvers to test against each other in a simulated environment.

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Рік тому

      @@LOL-zu1zr Can you link this?
      Also would like to see any stuff regarding their BVR tests and capabilities, would be an interesting read.

  • @johnsalter5412
    @johnsalter5412 Рік тому +15

    I remember back in 2006 when the F22 contract was cut way back. I was working for a defense subcontractor. We were deeply affected. The excuse was we had the F15 and no one had anything close and we would just never need a fighter like the F22 because no one would ever catch up to us as it was. I was shocked at the stupidity. That was exactly the attitude we had in the 1930s. We had the lead in aircraft technology. By WWII Europe and Japan had left us behind. I grew up listening to people who fought and lived through that war. We could have lost. It was dicey at best at the beginning. Many of the early battles could have gone the other way, and it would have been bad or worse for us. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    • @commie5211
      @commie5211 Рік тому +2

      pior to ww2, the US industrial capacity was nearly 10x of Japan, they just had a couple more rounds of practice before attacking the US. The US wouldn't lost that war either way.
      pior to ww2, japan did surprise attack to Qing dynasty and Russia, both were larger and stronger than Japan, however Japan won both by luck. That gave Japan so much confident, thought they could repeat the success.😂

    • @creatormaxi8324
      @creatormaxi8324 Рік тому +1

      Because the F22 combat range very short, only 800km, so it is useless except in european countries that US has a lot of allies.
      Air tank is not stealth, they can revealed the f22 very easy and f22 skin is outdated, it peels after several hours mission.
      Today technology, the stealth skin is direct painted.
      F22 is not in the competition, and i will say it is defect aircraft (except for balloon purpose)

    • @keli4068
      @keli4068 Рік тому +1

      in 2006 uncle Sam is busy killing iraqy and afgan people. no money for fighter

  • @ChicagoHOG27
    @ChicagoHOG27 Рік тому +18

    You can build hundreds of basketball courts, but don't expect the new players on those courts to be able to compete with NBA pros. You need lots of training and flight hours to have a chance against pilots who have that already. Numbers help, but won't save you.

    • @kyles.7750
      @kyles.7750 Рік тому

      ofcourse they're going to train new pilots for the planes dumbass. who said their fleet's gonna be built overnight anyway? it'll take years or even decades for china to match usaf plane numbers and pilot skills. but being ignorant and inhaling copium by saying shit like that will only allow china to creep and match usa's power. this is why the main takeaway from the video is that the us should up their production and training too if they dont want to be matched by china in the future.

    • @lumberjackagies5158
      @lumberjackagies5158 Рік тому +11

      US was considered inexperienced in WW2. People learn on the job. Some of the best soldiers in world wars were farmers and school teachers

    • @ChicagoHOG27
      @ChicagoHOG27 Рік тому +2

      @@lumberjackagies5158 that was a much, much simpler time. Very limited instruments, basic weaponry, and line of sight combat. Not at all a good comparison.

    • @youarebeingtrolled6954
      @youarebeingtrolled6954 Рік тому

      NBA pros barely win Olympic gold

    • @Kevin-kd6hf
      @Kevin-kd6hf Рік тому

      so no basketball court should be built?

  • @thomaszhang3101
    @thomaszhang3101 Рік тому +21

    Perun did A very technical video on the Chinese modernization, comparing budget, industry, and PPP of China, US and multiple other countries. It can be morning for some, but very detailed and insightful.

  • @smnkumarpaul
    @smnkumarpaul Рік тому +25

    West keep on saying that Chinese are of lower quality, meanwhile they forgot that during WW2 germany had better quality equipments but Allies beat them in quantity. Quantity have it's own quality.

    • @min-jd5lb
      @min-jd5lb Рік тому

      well the US has way too many F35 so they are the ones winning in quantity. China needs decades of time to surpass that.

    • @NightPhoenix.Y
      @NightPhoenix.Y Рік тому +5

      If it were only a few comments it would be reasonable, but now they're just smoking that copium

    • @pringleaddict5827
      @pringleaddict5827 Рік тому +5

      Not really. Better off having quality, easier logistics , pilots more likely to survive = more experienced. Better tech , warfare haa changed since WW2

    • @xiaodaigu5659
      @xiaodaigu5659 Рік тому +4

      Ok, you can fly 4 J-10s with PL-8 and I'll fly an F-35 with 4 AIM-120D in internal bay.

    • @ryananggoro493
      @ryananggoro493 Рік тому

      Why do you think allies have low quality weaponry!?
      They have most reliable weaponry than German have
      I know German have superior engineering but it's doesn't mean allies have sh!ty weapons like Chinese have
      If fact it's like super quality vs high quality
      Where Chinese is low quality

  • @Afahs993
    @Afahs993 Рік тому +11

    To be honest anyone make fun of other militaries, only shows that you lack military knowledge.
    And it's a childish behavior.

    • @victortorres1930
      @victortorres1930 Рік тому +1

      Agreed 👍

    • @rezberry.x
      @rezberry.x Рік тому +1

      Its better to let those make fun keep on make fun. To let enemy lose is to let them making the same mistakes and not correct them. The pride and ego is their downfall. In this case, let them keep making fun and look down on china, so their downfall becomes twice the fall.

    • @Saleemsan
      @Saleemsan Рік тому +1

      Really. The U.S. and China are not natural enemies. They shouldn't fight. But let the people of Tiawan be free, like the Uyghur, in Xinjiang, the far northwest of China.

    • @rezberry.x
      @rezberry.x Рік тому +1

      @@Saleemsan most of the post modern war are not about enemies. Its all about money conflict. Some believe both can win win in money, some believe one will win while the other will lose in money.

  • @J_X999
    @J_X999 Рік тому +62

    The comment section is going to be filled with upset Americans and Chinese bots. And both will try to justify their presence.

    • @austrianpainterwithasillym8145
      @austrianpainterwithasillym8145 Рік тому +3

      And what about mein soldiers?

    • @tengkualiff
      @tengkualiff Рік тому

      Sadly, the reality. The American conservatives and the Chinese nationalists.

    • @twistedneck
      @twistedneck Рік тому +3

      @@tengkualiff sorry bro.. comparing the two is not only irresponsible its just dumb

    • @ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123
      @ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 Рік тому

      @@tengkualiff tbf the Chinese Air Force is still running mostly ancient MiG-21 variants. They’re screwed.

    • @everything777
      @everything777 6 місяців тому

      What's your excuse for commenting?

  • @walterblack7233
    @walterblack7233 Рік тому +7

    我觉得b站言论已经够无脑了总把别人想象的多弱智😅,这边更是逆天😂,虽然可能很多是印度人,但应该也有一部分是美国人吧要不然不至于这么急,看来即便媒体不受控制,民众同样无法依据客观事实用大脑思考,这让我对自由观念产生了一些质疑和动摇😐

    • @min-jd5lb
      @min-jd5lb Рік тому

      很难想象还有人对外国人的思考能力抱有幻想

  • @themvko
    @themvko Рік тому +6

    What’s your source for this info? I don’t see any in the description

  • @coolskool1.061
    @coolskool1.061 Рік тому +1

    Amazing review and visuals 👌🏻

  • @mrsamuel5572
    @mrsamuel5572 Рік тому +8

    Bro even Lockheed Martin is watching this video 😂😂

    • @Rjsjrjsjrjsj
      @Rjsjrjsjrjsj Рік тому

      Yep. And giggling their @$$3$ off. China's a joke.

  • @willzulu8844
    @willzulu8844 Рік тому +13

    Another great video Binkov. You know, the bean counting game has always fraught with pitfalls. I think it’s a great indicator of a country’s economic potency (ie: to just build) and to a lesser degree, a country’s future intent. I do think China will attain parity with the US in terms of yearly production, but I don’t think the US in the short or medium term is interested in keeping a production gap over China. Operative Challenge for the US is to replace that aging F15 fleet to the EX standards so they can get greater operability with the F-35s, so that it excels at what is what meant to do, which is relay battle space info to frontline assets. Whether the USAF is granted the budget to do that is well..up to congress. Operative challenge for China is based on whether their young indigenous platforms are a capable enough counter to US platforms in the region and whether whatever doctrine they pursue is successfully conducive to whatever their future intentions are in the region.

  • @bol1Spitfire
    @bol1Spitfire Рік тому

    Great video, thanks for the data.

  • @dr.j5642
    @dr.j5642 Рік тому +15

    I'd bet the F18 is more capable than the J16. No one really know how the J16s will perform.

    • @calvinblue894
      @calvinblue894 Рік тому

      China obviously watch how F-18 perform and found ways to counter..or else why they go ahead and make more.
      US data is on the table, China's data is hidden

    • @goncalotr
      @goncalotr Рік тому

      Probably like the Russian counterpart that use cheap gps that were used in taxis 10 years ago

    • @mrmacias4217
      @mrmacias4217 Рік тому

      J-16 is very similar to su-35

  • @Green.P3
    @Green.P3 Рік тому +23

    China is building these not even knowing if there actually good. While US are making newer and better ones , Also the US 6th gen fighter is coming soon.

    • @bitterballs356
      @bitterballs356 Рік тому +1

      Yes forget jets just produce nukes. And ICBMs

    • @codyweaver7546
      @codyweaver7546 Рік тому +2

      The US hasn't fought a near peer since World War 2. How in the hell can you tell if their equipment can hang with anything more advanced than a MiG-21 or MANPADS on camel back?

    • @braith117
      @braith117 Рік тому +1

      @@codyweaver7546 you forgot that the Korean War was a thing, didn't you?

    • @codyweaver7546
      @codyweaver7546 Рік тому +5

      @@braith117Does the Korean War count as coequal combatants?

    • @kyouskeuzumaki9673
      @kyouskeuzumaki9673 Рік тому +1

      @@codyweaver7546 exactly and those ended in stalemates a full war ground navy air force it’s a complete gamble

  • @icephoenix5466
    @icephoenix5466 5 місяців тому +7

    Why do half the comments make no sense? Like literal gibberish…

  • @tompell3032
    @tompell3032 2 місяці тому +4

    it should not come as a surprise if the US is having problems in the procurement of military equipments. It is beset by corruptions and cronyism. It is a fact that The US pays $90,000 for small steel bushings (10-20 bushings in all) in a small ziploc bag. Thus, I can't imagine how ridicolously inflated the prices of bigger and more complex items are.

    • @AT-AT26
      @AT-AT26 2 місяці тому

      From what I’ve heard that’s because the price is inflated to hide hidden programs and prototypes etc they don’t want other people to know about. Most likely it’s that and also corruption.

  • @willberry6434
    @willberry6434 Рік тому +22

    China is going to have a rude awakening with how much maintenance costs they are going to have to pay.

    • @ferrous3262
      @ferrous3262 Рік тому +7

      they have alot of money not that big of a deal

    • @falcor200
      @falcor200 Рік тому

      @@ferrous3262 they don't even have water, their economy is in the tanks, their housing is in shambles, their dams are falling apart, their banks won't allow people to take out money, they are lo king down cities of 50 plus million. wtf are you talking about Chinese bot.

    • @SaintFluffySnow
      @SaintFluffySnow Рік тому +2

      China-PRC do not overcharge for maintenance like USA/West
      so, costs stay low
      and benefits of scale of economy rises as volumes of replacement parts are made in bulk
      it's like automation making high-quality high-volume parts like "tiny precision screws" (common in everyday consumer and industry electronic circuit boards)
      China-PRC practically have automated mfr products like "complex space satellites" made in "space satellite factories" (not just rocket engines, trains, planes, and automobiles)
      saving time, labour, and eliminating errors

    • @zszs100
      @zszs100 Рік тому +6

      This comment is saltier than the Atlantic Ocean lol. xD

    • @naitnait00
      @naitnait00 Рік тому +1

      The corruption tax and low part lifespans are gonna be fun.

  • @SlavGod47
    @SlavGod47 Рік тому +10

    China finally has the resources and know-how to mass produce J-20s and seeks to standardize the PLAAF inventory, as the majority are J-10s or older planes.
    Air power is probably the weakest link of the PLA, right behind the PLAN's ability to wage expeditionary warfare or stage amphibious landings

    • @user-wr8sm6jp6j
      @user-wr8sm6jp6j Рік тому

      There are many models of J10, just like the US also has F16A/B...

  • @tard281
    @tard281 Рік тому +10

    把敵人當白癡的時候 殊不知你跟他的差距越來越小

  • @deanmurphy7307
    @deanmurphy7307 Рік тому +14

    China is definitely quantity over quality

    • @BengalLancer
      @BengalLancer Рік тому +1

      I doubt that can be told for military equipments being sold for Chinese own military.

    • @KaiEmblem
      @KaiEmblem Рік тому

      Made in china equipment without seeing combat

    • @Death-fw6co
      @Death-fw6co Рік тому

      Seen how that worked out with Russia lol. Just a few American trucks with missiles folded them

    • @TheOne30264
      @TheOne30264 Рік тому

      You have to admit China is advancing very fast. You just have to look at what China was like 20 years ago and it's night and day. This is what the containing strategy is all about.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 Рік тому

      @@Death-fw6co russia is not the USSR, it lacks the manpower, industrial capability and money. China on the otherhand doesn't have a shortage in those areas.

  • @kynoble
    @kynoble Рік тому +1

    How long has it been since Binkov did a country vs. country video?

  • @randomthot125
    @randomthot125 Рік тому +15

    Mad Indian bro noises 😚

  • @user-fy6ii5uo7g
    @user-fy6ii5uo7g Рік тому +10

    Just in time for the NGAD and B21 Raider....

  • @kurousagi8155
    @kurousagi8155 Рік тому +8

    The only fighter jets in China’s Airforce that are modern in terms of avionics, electronics, and radar are the J-20, J-16, and J-10C. The J-11D and FC-31 haven’t yet been procured, but I think they’re pretty modern too in terms of avionics, electronics, and radar.
    I think there’s about 500-550 of the J-20, J-16, and J-10C aircraft. Definitely lower than 600, which is about 50-100 more aircraft than this time last year.

    • @marinuslubbe3993
      @marinuslubbe3993 Рік тому

      J-15B and J-11BH are also modern. J11D isn't a think anymore, it was scraped. The J11B will be upgraded to J11BH.

    • @kurousagi8155
      @kurousagi8155 Рік тому

      @@marinuslubbe3993 J-15? Thought the Chinese gave up on it and made naval versions J-10s and J-11s.

    • @marinuslubbe3993
      @marinuslubbe3993 Рік тому

      @@kurousagi8155 nope. Well J15 is a Chinese evolution of the SU33 and the J11 of the SU27. So in a way you can say that the J15 is the navy version of the J11.

    • @kurousagi8155
      @kurousagi8155 Рік тому

      @@marinuslubbe3993 well wait a minute. The J-15 is not an evolution of the SU-33. The J-15 is based off the T-10K-3, which was an incomplete prototype of the SU-33. Since 2018, Chinese state media has discussed the capability of the J-15 and it has been described as disappointing.

    • @marinuslubbe3993
      @marinuslubbe3993 Рік тому +2

      @@kurousagi8155 That's correct, but in the grand scheme of things you could call it a SU33 derivative. The J15 is not very good it's true and that's why they are modernizing them with the J15B variant. Aesa radar, PL10/15 capable, more powerful engines etc. It's designed to operate from catobar carriers.

  • @TacynMegan
    @TacynMegan Рік тому +7

    cant wait to see all the youtube armchair generals and military specialist come out

  • @user-jk1fr1or7x
    @user-jk1fr1or7x Рік тому +28

    I'm Chinese and we'd love to be looked down upon by others, in fact, it would be nice if they treated the gear we made as rubbish. - "Sun Tzu On The Art of War"

    • @dariomendoza191
      @dariomendoza191 Рік тому

      GREETINNGS from MExico we go through same Humiliation!! except they STOLE on may 13TH 1846 more Half our Territory Texas California New Mexico and Arizona the Empire of pure EVIl and Racists!!

    • @SenorPato1664
      @SenorPato1664 Рік тому

      "Wait I didn't say any of that" - Sun Tzu on the Art of War

    • @Madokaexe
      @Madokaexe Рік тому +1

      Can you use UA-cam?

    • @user-jk1fr1or7x
      @user-jk1fr1or7x Рік тому +2

      @@Madokaexe why not?

    • @user-lv6uk4vr7p
      @user-lv6uk4vr7p Рік тому +1

      @@Madokaexe 🧠?😂

  • @The136th
    @The136th Рік тому +10

    So many coping westerners who still live in the 90s

    • @The136th
      @The136th Рік тому +1

      @awesome guy China moved most of their low end manufacturing in AESAN while keeping the more profitable ones like cars, drones, industrial machinery. 5G is Chinese, 60% of Tesla battery is also by Chinese tech. Westerners are really still living in the 90s

  • @GG-tf9gy
    @GG-tf9gy Рік тому

    Wow great video.

  • @ThomasStephenForster
    @ThomasStephenForster Рік тому +10

    China could be pulling a fast one with production numbers like the Russians did with their Aircraft Carriers.

  • @obliviouz
    @obliviouz Рік тому +18

    I think it's relevant to consider that the J-20 is more on par with the F-35, being a multi-role, BVR focused 'fighter', and not a stealthy air-superiority dog-fighter like the F-22 is. China still has nothing close to the F-22, and is likely also a generation if not more behind in air-superiority tactics and institutional knowledge.

    • @AnamolHouse
      @AnamolHouse Рік тому +9

      Shit even comparing it to the F-35 is generous. Honestly more like the F15ex

    • @spencerstevens2175
      @spencerstevens2175 Рік тому +4

      the j20 is light years behind the f35

    • @subasthapa4839
      @subasthapa4839 Рік тому

      @@AnamolHouse china made anyway

    • @mrmacias4217
      @mrmacias4217 Рік тому +4

      J20 is vastly superior to f-35 lmao

    • @TheRealIronMan
      @TheRealIronMan Рік тому +1

      Jesus sometimes people like you make me speechless, you watch military channels all the time you still don't know J-20 is NOT a multirole fighter? It only got one role that's sniping high value aircrafts with long range missiles, it's like the most basic knowledge it renders everything else you say pointless.

  • @RayW808
    @RayW808 Рік тому +10

    I remember when we talked about Russia this way.

    • @charlesalford9446
      @charlesalford9446 Рік тому

      Ikr. If china is supposed to be inferior with Russia, I don’t see the problem here.

    • @the80386
      @the80386 Рік тому +1

      china's economy is more than 10X of russia's and china is by far the biggest producer of all kinds of products in the world.

    • @mrmacias4217
      @mrmacias4217 Рік тому +2

      Remember when we thought America was a superpower

    • @RayW808
      @RayW808 Рік тому

      @@mrmacias4217 lol mmmkay

  • @mickhaculinecilliers876
    @mickhaculinecilliers876 Рік тому +3

    This is true. I have been hearing a lot more jets crossing since August. I'm in Chengdu

  • @Ianmundo
    @Ianmundo Рік тому +8

    idiots think 1 stealth fighter = another stealth fighter. The F35 is not the fastest or most manoeuvrable fighter, but its software and the situational awareness it provides the pilot, it absolutely thrashes everything out there

    • @nicolaszan1845
      @nicolaszan1845 Рік тому

      Ssssssssh. Quiet. If China gets overconfident with their planes they actually might launch a war and we get to see fifth generation fighters in action against other fifth generation fighters

    • @TeddyR_Official
      @TeddyR_Official Рік тому

      Exactly. The US military is a system, every single part communicates and coordinate as one unit. That includes personnel and equipments.

  • @cheeho9698
    @cheeho9698 Рік тому +6

    as the saying goes..If you want peace , prepare for war. Even Henry Kissinger advised China to be prepared for war.

  • @godzillamothra5983
    @godzillamothra5983 Рік тому +13

    the problem with the Chinese airforce in the past is the bottle neck in engine tech. China still had to import engines from Russia, that's why the Chinese airforce development is slower than the navy. But the Chinese solved the engine problem, the domestic engine is ready, and that's why the airforce development is on steroid now.

    • @beenladen4924
      @beenladen4924 Рік тому +6

      the "domestic" engine is probably stolen :D

    • @rh906
      @rh906 Рік тому

      And even their Navy is not impressive. It doesn't have the range to do anything significant beyond looking scary and maybe coastal defense.

    • @mrmacias4217
      @mrmacias4217 Рік тому

      It’s a win win Russia gets money China gets better technology I don’t see your point?

  • @DeNihility
    @DeNihility Рік тому +10

    Overconfidence is a flimsy shield. If push comes to shove, i'd be very wary about the enemy's capabilities regardless of their reputation. Especially since all this is theoretical, last thing you need is to build an ego around it and be shocked when you're proven wrong when a conflict arises to put those theories to the test. If it were me, i'd be constantly be trying to improve and upgrade the F-22 and F-35s on the assumption that the enemy is vastly superior. Strength wanes and stagnates when you think you're at the top.

    • @harsectinal
      @harsectinal Рік тому

      There's already a 6th generation fighter lol.

    • @agentkaos1768
      @agentkaos1768 Рік тому +2

      Upgrading the F-22? What are you? Insane? Much cheaper to build the NGAD,

    • @daomingjin
      @daomingjin Рік тому

      they are constantly upgraded....

    • @daomingjin
      @daomingjin Рік тому

      @john lee America has oil, and the military capability to cut off china's oil supply. It also has the allies of the Saudis to agree to any oil-sanctions that they see fit.
      Remember, the only reason why OPEC still exists to this day and hadn't been conquered by Iraq and some other unfriendly neighbors in the area is because America has military agreements with Saudi Arabia.
      In a nutshell:
      Saudi Arabia: Hi America, we'll give you first dibs on our oil, and you give us military protection from our enemies
      America: Consider it Done.

    • @daomingjin
      @daomingjin Рік тому

      @john lee be civilized and use english. even though i CAN read farmer (nong min hua) i am not going to lower myself to such a level.
      You're obviously a mainlander and uncivilized. If Emperor Qin saw you writing Chinese like that he wouldn't have thought twice about halving you executed on the spot.
      If you MUST use Chinese Langauge because you're so uneducated you can't read and write in English on a primarily ENGLISH language thread....be slightly civilized and use traditional form chinese (Fan Ti Zi)

  • @nhpkm1
    @nhpkm1 Рік тому +13

    Binkov instead of blurring , you can use AI image fill in tool.
    where you completely cut out the blurred area than the image is "fixed" .
    It looks way better

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen1973 Рік тому +8

    Airframed are easy. Where China is lacking is building powerful and reliable jet engines.

    • @mrmacias4217
      @mrmacias4217 Рік тому +2

      That’s why Russia exist

    • @PeterMuskrat6968
      @PeterMuskrat6968 Рік тому

      @@mrmacias4217 lmao they are using Russian designs, they still suck.
      Eastern bloc jet engines have always been underpowered compared to western designs.

    • @enigmaticspace7578
      @enigmaticspace7578 Рік тому

      @@mrmacias4217 Soon to stop existing.

    • @wuyunchi
      @wuyunchi Рік тому +1

      True China is definitely lagging behind in jet Engine technology while it took the west over 7 decades to get to this current level

  • @HonorableBeniah-A
    @HonorableBeniah-A Рік тому +18

    The USA has stealth aircraft and no healthcare 😂

    • @eminencerain848
      @eminencerain848 Рік тому +15

      Europe has healthcare but no army.

    • @androidx99
      @androidx99 Рік тому +7

      We have healthcare...... it just cost as much as a fighter jet haha, still the best available Healthcare in the world baby

    • @dextercochran4916
      @dextercochran4916 Рік тому

      Umm... USA healthcare is world class?

    • @Thanatos833
      @Thanatos833 Рік тому +1

      @@androidx99 Dude, it's like the bottom-ranked healthcare amongst developed countries, and that's in virtually every study done. The only countries that have worse healthcare are developing countries.

    • @jugo1944
      @jugo1944 Рік тому +3

      @@dextercochran4916 Certainly not by outcomes. If you have unlimited money, sure

  • @janevillena7042
    @janevillena7042 Рік тому

    I havent seen a comment section as polarized as your videos'. Bravo Binkov👏👏

    • @josecano326
      @josecano326 Рік тому

      Tbh most read like chinese bots

    • @stealthtyrannus
      @stealthtyrannus Рік тому

      I mean one side is brainwashed nationalistic and the other is blindly confident about everything based on ill-informed assumptions. This is every comment section under advanced Chinese equipment...

  • @klynsma76
    @klynsma76 Рік тому +3

    Guess the Chinese have been watching the grimreaper squadrons simulations.

  • @owbvbsteve
    @owbvbsteve Рік тому +18

    So what your saying is they are building maybe 20-30 airframes a year and they are 1200 planes behind? The math says 40 years just to catch up.
    Plus total aircraft production in the US is 180-220 airframes a year for all customers. No one is buying Chinese fighters.
    Not sure what J-10 and J-15 (40 airframes or 1/3 of their production) will do against Gen 5 airframes. The jury is still out on the J-20.
    Looks to me the US still has quality/quantity/knowledge/ force multipliers/Stealth/Allies and overall command and control.

    • @deriznohappehquite
      @deriznohappehquite Рік тому +3

      Shhhhhh we need to catastrophize to get a bigger military budget.

    • @BabaYaga826
      @BabaYaga826 Рік тому +1

      "US still has quality/quantity/knowledge/ force multipliers/Stealth/Allies and overall command and control." 🤣🤣🤣 Tell me more about USA superiority when USA recapture Afghan. Can?

    • @veerchand2129
      @veerchand2129 Рік тому +3

      @@BabaYaga826 yeah cuz Afghanistan isn’t begging the world for help right now. So strong they can defeat the USA, but too incompetent to feed their own people or educate their women. Countries around the world buy the latest and greatest equipment and technology from Afghanistan and send their soldiers there to be trained in a superior way of fighting - oh wait no one does that. Seems like you don’t understand the difference between a military defeat and a political one.

    • @sharwama992
      @sharwama992 Рік тому +2

      Why do Americans think the Chinese are trying to compete with them 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @BabaYaga826
      @BabaYaga826 Рік тому

      @@veerchand2129 Anyone talking about political issue in here? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @randomperson774
    @randomperson774 Рік тому +13

    I feel so bad for the toxic and rude comments in this comment section

  • @davepanganiban571
    @davepanganiban571 Рік тому +4

    Don't forget about other things aside from number of jets, that is pilots level of training, knowledge and experience also aircrafts maintenance and spare parts availability, quality and production

    • @josephking2295
      @josephking2295 Рік тому +1

      people seem to think its the gun and not the mind behind that trigger that makes a difference i been saying the same thing you just said and plus we have way more battle field IQ and experience then what we get credit for

  • @batmanfromthesteppes979
    @batmanfromthesteppes979 Рік тому +2

    Are you the guy who used to do Squatting Slav TV? It was a great channel.

  • @vladimirgollumputin2166
    @vladimirgollumputin2166 Рік тому +31

    By the time China and Russia have proper 5th gen stealth fighters in service, USA will already have a 6th gen stealth fighter.

    • @justbecause3187
      @justbecause3187 Рік тому +5

      The capabilities gap has shrunk considerably and it could continue to shrink or possibly invert in the future.

    • @samj8830
      @samj8830 Рік тому

      And? China will still overtake the US

    • @charles8769
      @charles8769 Рік тому +2

      Just like when the Zumwalt was supposed to leapfrog China too right 😂😂😂

    • @TeddyR_Official
      @TeddyR_Official Рік тому +5

      @@justbecause3187 they can’t even build proper engine for the J20. Future? Yes, probably 50 years.

    • @ferrous3262
      @ferrous3262 Рік тому +5

      genrations arent that big of a deal mig17 were shooting down 3rd gen aircraft over vietnam

  • @opmacace523
    @opmacace523 Рік тому +4

    Their numbers don’t matter if they don’t know how to logistically support them at war

  • @Commonlogicguy
    @Commonlogicguy Рік тому +4

    Guess now we know how Germany and Japan felt in wwII.

  • @sethchilders5402
    @sethchilders5402 Рік тому +12

    They can buy and produce all the Lego jets they want

    • @ginoomarramirezolivera470
      @ginoomarramirezolivera470 Рік тому +3

      LEGO f_35 fail 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @cortney3280
      @cortney3280 Рік тому

      @@ginoomarramirezolivera470 f35 is mutch better keep crying little boiiiii

    • @ginoomarramirezolivera470
      @ginoomarramirezolivera470 Рік тому

      @@cortney3280 Beter i'n crash🤣🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @cortney3280
      @cortney3280 Рік тому

      @@ginoomarramirezolivera470 but 8 j20 crashed do to trchincalnfaliturs only 4 f35 crash and there are way more f35 then j20 soooo

    • @ginoomarramirezolivera470
      @ginoomarramirezolivera470 Рік тому

      @@cortney3280 🤣🤣🤣🤣f_35 fail y shit , j_20 crash ??? Is drunk 🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @R463R
    @R463R Рік тому +14

    Reading all these comments about one Country being better than the other, I know it is naïve to say, but with everything going on in the world, as individual citizens from the U.S. & China; can’t we all just get along?
    Yes, our Governments have ideological differences, but it doesn’t mean all of us as individual people from these two Countries have to hate, threaten, or make fun of the other by slandering our differences, or belittling their accomplishments.
    Let’s be honest, both of our Country’s Governments have done some beyond shady sh*t, so it’s not like one can judge the other on their Government having the moral high ground over the other.
    In a perfect world, without Governmental doctrine, policies, and agendas revolving around their spheres of influence, and extending the reach if their power across the globe, if we were able take even a fraction of the billions of $$$ & ¥¥¥ allocated to both of our Country’s “defense” budgets to combine with the innovation coming from our Country’s best & brightest in addition to our combined resources (both natural & manpower); the U.S. and China working together, instead of actively at odds (along international cooperation), we would have fully explored the Solar System by now with operational colonies on the Moon, and close to terraforming Mars right now.
    Unfortunately, a World full of Countries extending olive branches instead of trading bullets is too naïve to ever be a reality. When it comes to Governments, it seems only human for those in power to crave more, and maintaining their power through war & oppressive doctrine over their people will never be out of fashion.
    As I stated previously, both our Countries are guilty, so neither should be judging the other. We should be thinking of each other as individuals, and not as representatives of our Governmental policies & procedures…..
    …at least in the UA-cam comment sections 😅.
    *My Adderall prescription is kicking in right now, and most likely explains my rosy perspective, and length of this post I shot from the hip in a few minutes on the subject. Regardless, I stand by it, and my opinion doesn’t matter anyways. Have a good day.

    • @user-fw7wr9sq7e
      @user-fw7wr9sq7e Рік тому +3

      I’ve finally found someone who actually speaks facts about politics.

    • @youtubewatcher4792
      @youtubewatcher4792 Рік тому

      There are drastic differences between the US and chinese government.

    • @SkeeNnN
      @SkeeNnN Рік тому +3

      I think most people in the real world share your perspective, when reading UA-cam comments you have to remember that the average person is rarely represented here. Most commenters are either government hired trolls or warmongering armchair generals. The vast majority of people I have talked to in real life have generally been relatively friendly and there have been no arguments despite whatever bullshit differences the government of our countries may have . The truth is most people don't really give a fuck about politics. That being said I must say despite U.S having done some majorly shady stuff, the information that have been coming out of China is beyond chilling, those work camps for Muslims is so disgraceful that to compare the two political systems as being equally bad is a bit of a stretch in my biased opinion. what really sets the political systems in the west appart from the rest of the world is that at least we admit when we fucked up, you will never see China or Mr. Putin admit to any wrongdoing ever, however they constantly point fingers at our self-admitted fuck ups. The double standards ...

    • @R463R
      @R463R Рік тому +1

      @@SkeeNnN I will not argue with you on any of that. I think I was just hoping we could see ourselves as individuals instead of pawns of our Governments was the only point I was trying to make. You are 100% correct that my comment was a stretch, naïve, and wishful thinking. All of it easier said than done.

    • @user-fw7wr9sq7e
      @user-fw7wr9sq7e Рік тому

      @@SkeeNnN Well, I personally think that work camps might probably be a propaganda fiction written by the west media. If you know about the 13th amendment loophole, you’ll see that there exists similar stuff in the US as well, just the media decide not to talk about it.
      China has been having the policy to promote minor races for a long time, and it’s not changing any time soon. They enjoy benefits such as lower entrance requirements for schools and autonomous regions. If you look at the Chinese currency, you’ll see there are 5 different languages printed on those, including Uyghur language.
      I’d personally recommend you to visit there yourself.

  • @elandre4855
    @elandre4855 Рік тому +13

    Eh bring it on . The Russian s400 was supposed to be able to take out HIMARS missiles but we know how that turned out. I have a feeling the J-20 will meet a similar fate

    • @champnomnom7764
      @champnomnom7764 Рік тому

      Sandbox news did an awesome comparison on this one. Def agree with you

    • @antimatteranon
      @antimatteranon Рік тому +2

      things are always different in practice.
      the main issue for both of them is practice / experience, because that will help them learn.
      otherwise they get to do so the hard way.

    • @tritium1998
      @tritium1998 Рік тому +2

      What if fate doesn't turn out how you wish though? After all, it's a different country and equipment you cry about.

    • @elandre4855
      @elandre4855 Рік тому

      @@tritium1998 give me liberty, or give me death

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 Рік тому

      S400 is a long range missile, HIMARs are rockets...

  • @JakeHunter2010
    @JakeHunter2010 Рік тому +6

    Think the US has about or over 1000 F-16 Vipers as well.... might be a bit dated but that jet still puts in work and is still the most cost effective option. #JakeHunter88

  • @testerjs
    @testerjs Рік тому +3

    Time to ask question would you want 3 or 4 f35 or 1 j20?

  • @vissler
    @vissler Рік тому +8

    More doesn't seem to be better

  • @DZ477
    @DZ477 Рік тому +18

    Interesting how China's J-35 not only looks very much like the F-35, but even has a similar name.
    But eh, must be a coincidence.

    • @WSOJ3
      @WSOJ3 Рік тому +8

      It’s done so to piss people like you off. But in all seriousness J-35 is quite a lot larger than F35.

    • @jerdasaurusrex557
      @jerdasaurusrex557 Рік тому +6

      Wasn't J-35 coined by observers?

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 Рік тому +9

      @@WSOJ3 It’s bigger because China is behind in engine tech and miniaturization of electronics.

    • @LOL-zu1zr
      @LOL-zu1zr Рік тому +1

      @@bluemarlin8138 carries larger missiles

    • @thomaszhang3101
      @thomaszhang3101 Рік тому +9

      @@bluemarlin8138 it’s larger because J-35 has a longer range, which is essential for carrier fighters. F-35c must make compromise with army and especially marine variants and so was more limited in several parameters, range being one of them.
      Come on, Chinese AESA radar already moved onto GaN and was miniaturized onto CWIS while America is still struggling to roll out their GaM AESA radar on naval ships, not to mention on their CWIS.
      Out of all gaps that exist between China and America, electronics is one of the smallest ones and turbine engine is one of the largest.

  • @rgloria40
    @rgloria40 11 місяців тому +4

    A lot of people are going think we still produce F22...We don't any more.

  • @Marvin-mq9rk
    @Marvin-mq9rk Рік тому +6

    All I can say is WW3 is going to be interesting if it ever come to a full scale war.

    • @martinjrgensen8234
      @martinjrgensen8234 Рік тому +1

      It will go nuclear very quickly

    • @bro918
      @bro918 Рік тому

      @@martinjrgensen8234 which is exactly why it wont ever happen

    • @shanerooney7288
      @shanerooney7288 Рік тому

      Russia is fighting in Ukraine.... Which USA is finding with hundreds of billions of dollars.
      Full scale war might go nuclear. But a Proxy war seems to be acceptable.

  • @rh906
    @rh906 Рік тому +11

    They got to stimulate that collapsing economy some how.

    • @nadarith1044
      @nadarith1044 Рік тому

      Collapsing? where? their GDP keeps growing
      do you even fact check?

    • @wolftone4818
      @wolftone4818 Рік тому

      5% of the u.s economy is in defense. The u.s economy would literally collapse if they didnt cause conflict around the world. But keep talking shit about a country thats never invaded anyone while the other...

    • @rh906
      @rh906 Рік тому +2

      @@nadarith1044
      Which has been sharply declining. But here, for your troubles.
      *throws a 伍角*
      Good person.

    • @nadarith1044
      @nadarith1044 Рік тому

      @@rh906 While the growth is slowing, it is still growing, that's the exact opposite of collapse
      instead of throwing some chinese crap you could open a dictionary once in a while, it would save you from looking like an idiot

    • @rh906
      @rh906 Рік тому

      @@wolftone4818 *Looks at the popped Real Estate market being ~30% China's GDP, local governments only make money from "selling" land, and people stopping paying into the ponzi scheme making other parts of the economy starting to crumble helped with the lockdowns.*
      *Looks away.*

  • @Terry-em8ef
    @Terry-em8ef Рік тому +15

    Lol relax it is made in China XD

    • @stalkyjohnson4081
      @stalkyjohnson4081 Рік тому

      Same us a part of f-35 yet they print them like China

    • @asodcficc
      @asodcficc Рік тому

      dont be mad you can only afford to buy cheap products like your government haha

    • @stealth6996
      @stealth6996 Рік тому

      that’s why f 35 has chinese components

  • @daniel_poore
    @daniel_poore Рік тому +7

    OH NO the J-20 overtook the F22 production numbers????? Lol... you mean that aircraft that the US basically made none of....

    • @qwertyqwerty-zi6dr
      @qwertyqwerty-zi6dr Рік тому +1

      Who cares when j20 will never see f22 raptor on radar and it will be snipped ez by raptor..

    • @daniel_poore
      @daniel_poore Рік тому

      @@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr yeah that too! My point was that "we" barely made any f22s so it's not an accomplishment to have more of something that we do f22s. Lol. What was it like 160 or 190?basically 1 years worth of production of f35s. But yeah I don't think we have to be airframe geniuses to see that a f22 would easily own j20s. I still think there is alot of the Russia thing going on here too with most of the Chinese stuff. It sounds great... Like what they tell the world and the little we see... But it probably all sucks beyond our wildest imaginations. Lol

  • @bensfons
    @bensfons Рік тому +7

    As long as the Chinese planes don't suffer from the same quality issues as their buildings then they are good.

    • @mrmacias4217
      @mrmacias4217 Рік тому +1

      Corny

    • @PeterMuskrat6968
      @PeterMuskrat6968 Рік тому

      Bamboo sticks for wing braces😂

    • @socaljet
      @socaljet Рік тому

      @@mrmacias4217 they call the buildings in china "tofu dregs" because they just fall apart

    • @robertgittings8662
      @robertgittings8662 Рік тому +2

      @@socaljet *hmm I think it is more like comparing a Land Cruiser to a GM or comparing a C919 to 737 Max Dive Bomber*
      *Or even better yet search video for coin stand on a train traveling 350KM/H*
      *I really really doubt his baseless claim "Chinese plane have less capablilty than the American ones" 🤭 but his videos have tendency of trashing everything Chinese have or does tho look at his videos several years back*

    • @rh906
      @rh906 Рік тому

      It's only some of their buildings. Which would be the ones made by corrupt companies tied to powerful local and regional officials, who... oh......

  • @ld871111
    @ld871111 Рік тому +7

    China's previously limited production capacity was due to barriers in sourcing advanced engines. Now that WS-10 is fully mature and ready for mass production, China is able to scale up plane production by double or even triple the initial rate.

    • @ld871111
      @ld871111 Рік тому +4

      @Brent Reid I don't know about three fold crashes, but there has been an uptick in crashes. Flight training hours have more than doubled in the past 10 years for PLAAF combat pilots. The type of training conducted also changed from simple flight training to more dangerous and complex combat maneuvers involving multiple units and plane types.
      Unless you're implying something else?

  • @sasquatchycowboy5585
    @sasquatchycowboy5585 Рік тому +10

    God i really wish we had finished the production of the Raptor.

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Рік тому +1

      I don't, way way too expensive in my opinion, and at this point, the avionics really are questionable.
      The F-22 needs a overhaul in its capabilities, something akin to the F-35 and it's sensor fusion, and of course a HMCS.

    • @sasquatchycowboy5585
      @sasquatchycowboy5585 Рік тому

      @@jaek__ You know thay aircraft avionics are continuously updated right? Also find a fighter pilot that would choose Fat Amy over the Raptor for air to air engagement. The Raptor is a better air superiority fighter in every way. Which is not a knock on your precious F-35. The Raptor was the replacement for the F-15C the F-35 was the replacement for the F-16 and F-18. Yes they were hoping to get the A-10 gone as well and I think the F-15E. But really the F-16 dose all that anyway. Point is the F-35 can do air to air. The Raptor was built for air to air. And since a real shooting war with China looks more and more likely. And they have fith gens too it would be really really nice to have those Raptors right about now. I suspect this fight will happen long before NGAD if it happens at all.

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Рік тому

      @@sasquatchycowboy5585 Yes, you would be somewhat correct in that avionics are updated and maintained, but unlike the F-35 the software and sensor enhancements are not nearly at the level they should be, the venerable performance of the F-22 is nothing to scoff at sure, but when I say overhaul I mean overhaul, and that's not a knock at your precious F-22, frankly, she is aging, and needs a makeover, which is, to my knowledge, is what the USAF is looking to do, if you really want a specialized air superiority fighter than you need to ensure that your aircraft is up to date with current iterations of enhancements in all aspects.
      Besides, it's not like China is fighting us in a complete vacuum, they have to deal with India, Japan, and SK if all out war breaks out, and to my mind, the number of Raptors the USAF has isn't going to be relevant, so long as they are up-to-date.
      Especially with the sheer numbers of F-35s we will have by then, along with advancements in missile technology.

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Рік тому

      @@sasquatchycowboy5585 China isn't ready, don't get fooled, by the time China is up to the task, Japan will be as well, and even other Oceanic countries.
      If China does manage to beat everyone, they earned it to be honest, but somehow I doubt they will

  • @full_metal_troy8394
    @full_metal_troy8394 Рік тому

    Those j16s and j20s when matched with PL15 are serious threats

  • @swenhtet2861
    @swenhtet2861 Рік тому +4

    Surprised to see an Enlisted sponsor. Normally, it would’ve been War Thunder.

  • @t.t7225
    @t.t7225 Рік тому +12

    US also has Emma

    • @realdreamerschangetheworld7470
      @realdreamerschangetheworld7470 Рік тому +7

      Please leave the wokeism and counter-wokeism politics at the door please. We’re here to learn, not lose braincells.

    • @thetruth3082
      @thetruth3082 Рік тому +1

      LOL it's that one gay girl 'from' the us army

    • @owenfranco9441
      @owenfranco9441 Рік тому

      Yeah. The they/them army is still better than any other country. Just because you hate gay people doesn’t mean they can’t do their job.

    • @t.t7225
      @t.t7225 Рік тому

      @@realdreamerschangetheworld7470 how could one ignore this huge cultural phenomenon that is penetrating ALL the levels of western societies? It wants to change the reality, humanity and world as we know it!
      You can't learn about our age, if you ignore one such an massive phenomenon. The phenomenon that is an indirect (still big) reason for the downfall of US in relation to China.

    • @t.t7225
      @t.t7225 Рік тому +3

      @@realdreamerschangetheworld7470 also name a one instance in history, where "out of sight, out of mind" mindset in the face of a problem has solved it.

  • @d.thieud.1056
    @d.thieud.1056 Рік тому +26

    The US is building over 150 f-35 per year and climbing. As mentioned these aren't all going too the US, but to other NATO countries as well. However, there aircraft are going to close US allies, they can absolutely not be discounted when comparing the US to china because unlike china, the US prefers to spread its culture, economic prosperity, and form of government around to make very close allies as its prefered form of imperialism, while china just invades other countries and then say "oh they were always part of china, we're not imperialist unlike the US haha" (ask a Tibetaan, or a Mongolian, or hong kong, or Taiwanese citizen if you think china Isn't imperialist lmao).
    compared to 40 J-20 per year and increasing?
    not quite sure the US is really being out-built here

    • @marinuslubbe3993
      @marinuslubbe3993 Рік тому +6

      The US doesn't invade other coutnries ? Are you guys saying shit like this without bursting out laughing?

    • @marcusrat4466
      @marcusrat4466 Рік тому +2

      @@marinuslubbe3993 shh, you might overload his circuits

    • @d.thieud.1056
      @d.thieud.1056 Рік тому

      @@marinuslubbe3993 oh I'm not saying they don't, I very much aknowlege their imperialism. They just try negotiations and cultural appropriation and financial aid fist and with pretty decent success. But they do have and constantly use that massive MIC too
      Saying the US doesn't invade countries would be utterly fucking retarded
      People just hold china to a different standard, because:
      1 they say they don't invade countries and try to censor anyone that says otherwise. Despite the Sino-vietnam war being more recent and equally disastrous as the Vietnam war everyone knows (Vietnam beating off both the US and China is pretty funny, cope and seethe superpowers)
      2: the invasion of Tibet
      3: their constant clashes with India
      4: their debt traps
      5: their naval territorial claims, that are wildly out of proportion with those of any other nation on earth and violently clash with at least 3 other countries with completely normal territorial water claims
      6: Taiwan

    • @TeddyR_Official
      @TeddyR_Official Рік тому +1

      @@marinuslubbe3993 invade means you attack and put your own flag on it

    • @davidhouseman4328
      @davidhouseman4328 Рік тому

      China has done very little invading, it maybe purely because they haven't been strong enough, but don't say bollocks like China invades and the US doesn't when if anything the opposite is true.

  • @christbenitez8797
    @christbenitez8797 Рік тому +1

    We are going to see the biggest showdown in history of warfare.

  • @loktom4068
    @loktom4068 Рік тому +2

    The best one is not even show up on foreign media.

  • @yerxiong123
    @yerxiong123 Рік тому +8

    Wait till Iran finish their paper airplane

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Рік тому +1

      Iran has JF 17 Pakistan fighter jet and don't forget their drones+new Russia sukhoi-35

    • @brednbudr2406
      @brednbudr2406 Рік тому

      @@widodoakrom3938 you said that like it's impressive.

  • @paulsteaven
    @paulsteaven Рік тому +17

    "China is now buying more combat jets than the US"
    Well, when you're still using 3rd generation Mig-21 derivatives despite being the 2nd best Air Force around, you really need to buy a lot of replacement aircrafts.

    • @khangkt1721
      @khangkt1721 Рік тому +11

      Technically, the United States Navy is the 2nd best air force in the world right after the United States Air Force

    • @masterofsnatch1645
      @masterofsnatch1645 Рік тому

      @@khangkt1721 Conrad sock puppet here always ignores worse economics geography and real numbers and whenever Sock puppet make comparisons subsequently apparently it always involves never never looking at nato.

    • @paulsteaven
      @paulsteaven Рік тому +3

      @@khangkt1721 I know, but Binkov included the acquisition of US Navy's acquisition of Super Bugs and F-35Cs to US' overall fighter acquisition.

    • @margarettoellieniellieni5087
      @margarettoellieniellieni5087 Рік тому +7

      an american crying because another nation surpasses his nation

    • @twistedneck
      @twistedneck Рік тому +2

      @@margarettoellieniellieni5087 must you obsess?

  • @Rospajother
    @Rospajother Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @parttimethinker7611
    @parttimethinker7611 Рік тому +1

    They both are fun lists.

  • @simonyip5978
    @simonyip5978 Рік тому +19

    I think that some people don't understand what a war between China and the US would entail.
    The two biggest economic superpowers and the 2 most advanced and powerful military powers going to war would not be like the Gulf War or the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, virtually everyone would be effected.
    China has the economic influence and financial assets to send the whole world into an economic crisis, fuel shortages, food shortages, the hundreds of billions of dollars that they invest around the world each year, the collapse of the tourist industry that relies on the millions of Chinese tourists spending billions, the shops would be empty, the prices of anything that was available would skyrocket, the international stock markets would collapse, raw materials and manufactured goods would be hard to get, inflation, mass unemployment, etc etc. Those would be the economic consequences.
    Then the military consequences would be hard to comprehend, they have the technology, industrial capabilities and the raw materials and assets needed to fight a prolonged war, they have a huge navy, airforce and land force, backed up by nuclear weapons and paramilitary forces.
    Actually defeating China in their own region would not be guaranteed by any means and a definite victory over China would be almost impossible in my opinion.
    So before anyone gets angry because their country is going to have to accept that China and the rest of the world has the same rights to succeed as the western world, its much better to have a prosperous China, creating wealth by trading with the world, than trying to provoke an unwinnable war with a economic and military superpower.

    • @TheGersh18
      @TheGersh18 Рік тому +5

      Although China has the right to succeed economically the western world isn’t going to sit by and allow them to do it through unfair business practices. Such as undercutting western competition by subsidizing its companies so they can sell their products cheaper and theft of intellectual property so less money is spent on research and development. This second point extends to the Chinese military. They are always one generation of weapons behind the US. By the time they get their hands on US weapons designs and start processing those platforms the US is already in the process of developing and producing the next generation. If China and the US go to war they both will lose along with the rest of the world. One can only pray such a conflict would stay conventional. For the US it will mean a heavily depleted military and a nation that will take several decades to rebuild. For China it will likely be a total collapse of the CCP and an even longer recovery period than the US. No one wins.

    • @magicyang8594
      @magicyang8594 Рік тому +7

      ​@@TheGersh18 nice contributor of western media , come work for the BBC tomorrow morning.

    • @simonyip5978
      @simonyip5978 Рік тому +6

      @@TheGersh18 I don't agree that Chinese military technology is a generation behind the western world.
      The PLA has hypersonic missiles, anti ballistic missile missiles, rail guns, stealth fighters (2 different aircraft), laser technology, anti satellite weaponry, etc. The quality of the hardware is no longer inferior either, even the US military intelligence services consider the latest military equipment to be 'world class' (according to the US Naval Intelligence Office).

    • @TheGersh18
      @TheGersh18 Рік тому +1

      @@magicyang8594 what did you find inaccurate in my statement?

    • @magicyang8594
      @magicyang8594 Рік тому

      @@TheGersh18 you know what, my answer was chopped off,There is a force in this world that doesn't allow us to tell the truth ,think about it. Please do more research and observation.

  • @SmartAss4123
    @SmartAss4123 Рік тому +12

    Its relevant to consider that while the jets
    are being produced en-masse. It doesnt translate to true force projection. They're still far behind in both numbers and quality of air power. And sea power vessels are laughable in capability.
    Its not really relevant since its not like the US wants to fight china, we know we'd win conventional conflicts just from the sheer difference in levels of actual combat capability in our force structures.
    That doesnt mean to say China doesnt have quality forces or capability, but its been well proven what we can do and what chinese forces can do.
    Now in a couple decades or more that could be very different. But technology is rapidly taking over in many areas so its almost pointless to speculate. The standards of "force projection" may very well be talking about entirely different parameters like Drones and AI and other weapon systems and not the traditional ones we think of right now.
    Satelites, Drones, biological weapons and other tech will be the weapons of true comparison in future years in my opinion.

    • @SmartAss4123
      @SmartAss4123 Рік тому +8

      Another thing. While war simulation games are fun. Lets keep in mind that we shouldnt WANT to be adversaries without an actual reason. So far China has not taken military action on Taiwan and hopefully that remains true. Or on India or Japan.
      As long as they do not strike against allies, there is still room and time to repair any damaged relations. This of course could be implausible, but its better than senseless War that no one wants.

    • @Ahhh1
      @Ahhh1 Рік тому +4

      Im half chinese, but i kinda want to see the us be more powerful lol. Whether what you say is true or not, the fact is… china is catching up. Which is scary.

    • @SmartAss4123
      @SmartAss4123 Рік тому +2

      @@Ahhh1 The unfortunate truth is that the US will not remain where we are at depending on what tech is introduced in the future. My timetable is a very hazardous guestimate since we dont actually know what the US government has in the "back room" so to speak. And the same is true for china and russia.
      I'm assuming (with what we do know) that we will have the edge and advantage with military experience and power for many years. But traditional forces that we excel in will not be as important as drones and AI become more advanced along with new ways to project force through internet and satelite advances.
      Even our sea based advantages which we have almost exclusive control over wont remain that way for long as weapons become smaller - but more powerful in unmanned capacities.
      The truth is that the US needs help in the future. And if peace is to prevail, it is without a doubt going to have to be joint efforts to deter strong powers from pushing their weight on weaker countries without total war.
      The days of US supremacy are going away. The days of any single country having global dominance are probably done. We had a good run but times change and the best we can do is recognize the US absolute power is not going to remain. And to adapt to what the world will be like and hopefully set the stage for a more peaceful coexistence as society (hopefully) progresses to more intelligence and reason.

    • @zoka7108
      @zoka7108 Рік тому +7

      "sea power vessels are laughable in capability. "
      You need to update your knowledge. You are 15 years behind. It will take some time

    • @SmartAss4123
      @SmartAss4123 Рік тому +1

      @@zoka7108 I might have exaggerated a bit. But in comparison to what US ships are capable of (not even counting the Aircraft carrier fleets) it is not in China's favor by even the most generous estimates.

  • @beta199355
    @beta199355 Рік тому +3

    I really question this news, do they really have enough engine for those new plane?

    • @MrPeterzhu
      @MrPeterzhu Рік тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/fxXuBmlD8cI/v-deo.html this is why we so confidently.

  • @Elver_Galarga816
    @Elver_Galarga816 Рік тому +4

    The J 16 looks better than the SU 35, but it would be a matter of time to see how good it is

    • @azazelRising72
      @azazelRising72 Рік тому

      ... I don't think it's a beauty pageant. But, if it was, my vote goes to the YF-23 Black Widow. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-23

    • @loadingnewads
      @loadingnewads Рік тому

      @@azazelRising72 I love it, but it;s not as beautiful as F22

  • @chatchaweewong1071
    @chatchaweewong1071 Рік тому +8

    Pls take note, in 2030, USAF will have 20-36 of 6th gen.
    RG.
    Insider...

    • @shanerooney7288
      @shanerooney7288 Рік тому

      Don't worry. China is weak and can't win. Everything cheap and breaks. underestimate China. Nothing to worry about. USA №1. USA have superweapon never seen. China don't know how to fight war. China only copy. EZ win.

    • @The136th
      @The136th Рік тому +4

      China already has 5.5gen, the J-20S

    • @mclovin2155
      @mclovin2155 Рік тому

      @@The136th that's not 5.5 gen.

  • @Lucentjuffowup
    @Lucentjuffowup Рік тому +23

    Ah yes the J20, the dollar store version of the F-22....

  • @badbattleaxe5832
    @badbattleaxe5832 Рік тому +6

    If the US wants to keep pace they better hustle on the sixth GEN programs.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Рік тому

      It's took 25 more years

    • @mikegrizzle3014
      @mikegrizzle3014 Рік тому

      They already have an operational prototype.
      Europe says they're gonna have a prototype for theirs in 9 years.
      So china is still 5 years behind those. It takes time to make cheap counterfeits of other countries intellectual properties.

    • @mclovin2155
      @mclovin2155 Рік тому

      We don't need 1000 planes in the air to smoke the J20. Chinese equipment is garbage.

  • @barakaobombervsronaldraide3098

    Can you make a video about j31/fc31?🙏

  • @mercedescl
    @mercedescl Рік тому +22

    China is producing around 20 stealth fighters each year, while the US is building 150 F35 each year, and the US is building F18, F15, and F16 with record breaking production rate in the near future. So, no, China hasn't came near to the US production, let alone catching up the fleet sizes.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Рік тому +6

      Where u get those data?

    • @CircusJeanie2399
      @CircusJeanie2399 Рік тому +11

      @@widodoakrom3938 he apparently didn't bother finishing the video

    • @mercedescl
      @mercedescl Рік тому +1

      @@CircusJeanie2399 because the data in the video are false. Especially after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, a lot of Chinese aviation parts came from Ukraine and Russia, Chinese fighter jets production will be significantly delayed. The video significantly overstated the Chinese production while underestimated the US expansions in fighter production.

    • @walterblack7233
      @walterblack7233 Рік тому +2

      "a lot Of Chinese aviation parts came from Russian and Ukraine". So you are basically living in the 2000s?The only part came from Russia and Ukraine was aeroengine,and even that ended in 2018,when China started to produce domestic ws engines.

    • @mercedescl
      @mercedescl Рік тому

      @@walterblack723340% of J20 components came from Russia including the engine, wings and landing gears.

  • @colemanjulius2
    @colemanjulius2 Рік тому +11

    Ummmm we have the f-22 raptor
    Sooo 1 raptor = about 30 j-20 😂😂😂😂

    • @shannonbrown9273
      @shannonbrown9273 Рік тому

      That’s assuming an F22 even gets downed after just getting 30 kills. That’s less than 2 sorties of munitions 😂😂😂

    • @Alsadree
      @Alsadree Рік тому

      Americans. So blind

    • @omaral-maitah181
      @omaral-maitah181 Рік тому +6

      What are you ? 12 ?

    • @TheFinalsTV
      @TheFinalsTV Рік тому

      @@omaral-maitah181 he's actually 9, but even a 9yo knows that's true. Look at Russia performance in Ukraine, they're getting spanked harder than anything we've seen since WW2 with spare weapons from the US. A real NATO war would be a joke against Russia/China

    • @notimportantperson6382
      @notimportantperson6382 Рік тому

      one Su57 can take out 30 f22 s

  • @fenchen531
    @fenchen531 Рік тому +1

    it depends on how tense the US-China relationship will be. for the past decade, the production capacity of CN warships is significantly higher than the US for the defence requirement.

    • @ChrisDavis333
      @ChrisDavis333 Рік тому

      They build a bunch of small non blue water ships and rack up tonnage that way. Little coast guard vessels with machine guns, that are good for approximately nothing but countering piracy. They’re a brown water navy. The US has legitimate 11 carrier strike groups and another 9 or so LHA/LHD carrier groups. China has none, they have no force projection, they have no range, and they don’t have the crews or the captains or the experience. The single carrier that’s not in service yet still won’t have the crews or the ability to project any force, 30% less tonnage, 50% of the cargo, less catapults, less elevators, and its not nuclear powered. Their very best is still outclassed by our super carriers built 50 years ago.

    • @ZK-ff2ru
      @ZK-ff2ru Рік тому

      @@ChrisDavis333 Not only are you completely wrong as newer chinese ships are very similar to american ones in terms of tonnage but also the fact that a naval war with china would happen locally within taiwan which is ~150 km away from china's coast

    • @dabo5078
      @dabo5078 Рік тому

      @@ChrisDavis333 No that was back in the 80s when the USN wasn't the primary threat. Since the 2000s ships launched from the shipyards are usually in the 4000 tons+ range, mostly being frigates, destroyers, and LHDs.

    • @ChrisDavis333
      @ChrisDavis333 Рік тому

      @@dabo5078, it’s not large vessels. Also, I’ve never heard of an LHD being 4,000 tons, 4,000 tons is rather small, an Arleigh Burke class destroyer is about 9-10,000 tons. The Chinese have 1 ship that’s impressive to me, the Type 055, and they’ve been able to produce them fairly quickly. I will give them that ship, that’s about the only concession I’m willing to make at this time. They aren’t a carrier building country in my eyes, so they make up for the tonnage elsewhere, they win in sheer numbers because their doctrine is smaller intercostal/brown water ships. Which frankly makes sense for what they need, they don’t force project across the globe like the US, they defend their “claimed” territorial waters in and around the coast. I’m not shaming them, they have a large navy, just not in the same way as the U.S.

    • @dabo5078
      @dabo5078 Рік тому +1

      @@ChrisDavis333 Uh LHD their producing is 40000 tons with 3 commissioned for service as of now. 4000 tons is the baseline being the Type54 frigate (which is discontinued and replaced by the Type45A). They also build 40% of the world's commercial cargo ships so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Currently they have 3 proper fleet carriers built, the largest in size in tonnage outside of the United States. Finally the 055 you are impressed with only finished its initial production run of 8 vessels since 2017. 8 more are slated to be finished in the next 4 years along with another "smaller" 6 052DL (8000 tons) coming in 2023-2024 quarter. (2 already finished and going through sea trials) on top of the 8 built 052DLs and the older 25 regular 052D. Plus a whole host of older destroyers and other models such as the 8 discontinued 25000 tons 071 transport dock.
      PS the Fujian carrier being 80000 tons is tiny compared to the commercial LNG tanker that was in the drydock next to it. Sure the PLAN is smaller in tonnage than the USN (because of the amount of supercarriers) , but it dwarfs every single other navy by several magnitudes both in quantity, quality and tonnage. Finally exercising around Alaska and patrolling the Philippines sea is pretty blue water... They don't go elsewhere since they don't have military interest there yet. It does not mean lack of capability.

  • @quantum_dongle
    @quantum_dongle Рік тому +1

    But binkov, should we not consider USAF loyal wingman drones as part of fighter aircraft delivery?

  • @buddermonger2000
    @buddermonger2000 Рік тому +8

    Well uh... I remember that analysts tend to look for signs in production when it comes to preparation for war. This kind of sounds like they're gearing up for it.

    • @kenjisasuke7705
      @kenjisasuke7705 Рік тому +3

      Except that their defence budget is still below 2% of GDP - which is typically what most advanced economies spend on defence.

    • @TheSwegBucket
      @TheSwegBucket Рік тому +9

      please keep in mind that a lot of their older planes are becoming increasingly obsolete. So production is likely from replacements and not preparation for a massive war.

    • @avatarxs
      @avatarxs Рік тому +2

      @@kenjisasuke7705 you need to watch Perun’s video…

  • @danny117fc
    @danny117fc Рік тому +8

    and the build quality will be SHOCKING

  • @geewunder1171
    @geewunder1171 Рік тому +2

    This is more of a gen 4.5 than gen 5. Not a major threat.