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- Mig-31 and R-37M are doing much better than expected in Ukraine. Let's see how an old platform like the Mig-31 is turning out essential in its role.
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not only technically but also as a narrator you are great
Be cautious with telling Russophobes about the networked anti ship missiles achieving almost Mach 3 in the 70’s and designs starting in the 60’s .. in 1991 yank president made a personal request of yeltzem to get 7-9 X35 I think for “targeting drones”
Yanks used to make very average hardware but lots of it. Great innovators lousy inventors.. farming and logistics in their DNA.. now their hardware is demonstrably overpriced - pure junk that isn’t fit for purpose (FIOA Patriot PAK3, littoral ships cracking hulls, $15billion SSBN with only 2 sonar suits that are superior tusk Russian SSBN that cost around $1-$3 Billion, M777 .. splitting barrels, F35 pure junk look at Air Force availability.)
These russophobes in the west are a vile embarrassment,
@u666sa lol they pretty hardcore folks.
I had my interest peaked in Ukraine a while ago until I realised the ethnic nationalism was actual nazism ! .. holy moly
Thank you for covering these things more in depth than most normally do.
Emotional damage❤
This man's videos are always great
That is why I'm subscribed
The best resource on UA-cam for me.
from day 1!
One interesting info for M7 and others .Chief constructor of MiG-31 was Gleb Lozino-Lozinsky. He once said that MiG-31's structure made from special Nickel-Steel alloy , then Aluminium alloy D19T and Titanium alloy can be in operational use for more then 50 years.
MiG-31BM is version converted from MiG-31B/BS and basic version from the first half of the 80's . In total 113 MiG-31B and BS were overhauled and modernized to BM level .Then MiG-31 ( basic version ) were overhauled and modernized to BM level. Those planes are already 40 years old but they will be operational for another decade and more . So e.g. aircraft made in 1985 can be operational until 2035 ( min ) . For comparison, MiG-31B were made from 1991 until 1994 ( calculate that 50 years of min. possible service life).
So is MiG-31 outdated ? No. Is MiG-31 outperformed ? No of course. In radar-missile range domain and kinematic-energetic ( speed -alt ) flight domain, he is still the best interceptor in the world and will be for many years to come .All best !
I can tell you sir
there's literally no one on UA-cam that explains eastern military aircraft as detailed as you
Great video as always
Dass ist von Richtigkeit!
Salomè, und leb wohl! Mögest Du in das Licht, der Wahrheit, und dem SEIN der Schöpfung leben.
The reason I watch you is primarily for your unbiased (yes, I said _unbiased_ ) content regarding aircraft other than US/European. You do stuff about Western aircraft too, and you are accurate there as well.
Pay no attention to naysayers. Their ambition is great, but their minds are small.
*_Greg's Automobiles & Aeroplanes_*
and
*_Ed Nash's Military Matters_*
..channels are equally as good & in-depth too IMHO
I do there very good snd bullet proof 😅😅
Absolutely.
People like you are the reason we love Italians and Italy.
Mille Grazie !!
Always happy to be a patron of this channel. High quality content you just don't get anywhere else !
Thank you for the treat
Great video, especially the explanation on missile performance in terms of potential, kinetic, chemical energy, air density, and altitude. Best explanation that I have seen.
Bravo!
For sure!
UA-camr Growling Sidewinder does DCS (digital combat simulator) videos on beyond visual range fights and goes over the kinematic performance of missiles. Basically with M7* is talking about with pretty PC game graphics. 😂
@@TurboHappyCar Yes. I'm a fan of Growling Sidewinder.
The best possible launch situation is that with max altitude and max speed ( first speed of missile) parameters. With that we have max possible kinematic-energetic missile potential and also max possible time of aerodynamic stability and controlability. In that situation we have max possible/effective ( authorised ) launch distance.
MiG-31 is the fighter with best speed-alt possibilities for launch of A2A missile/s. Vmax is 2.8M and Hmax is 22kms . All best
Thrilled to see you back!! Keep up the amazing work
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Nah it's 6USD@@onyxfinger7431
Thanks again for your very valuable informed perspective, M7. I hope 2023 will bring you and your channel even greater success.
I admit I recognized the airframe from the overhead shot. The big MiG's are still awesome
Lol the Avro Arrow espionage rumour reference is great
Excellent analysis of missile performance. I am no aerospace engineer but I play one in video games. This was really interesting
Thanks for the insightful video. Mig31 is an obsolete airframe these days but with the right tech on the pylon it can still be highly effective. As you said it is about stopping the opponents mission not shooting them down thats just a bonus. The standoff give it its advantage but if Ukraine gets modern fighters, which it looks like it will, the 31's will have a hard time.
@Septic Whelk in tech terms it is but if it stays clear of conflict and sticks to long range BVM then its still very effective as its proving. Its horses for courses like the t64 thats being wheeled out its past its prime but has same gun so is still an effective tank killer all be it in a more static role.
*if it stays out of range and yeets long range missiles its safe*
That is what interceptors do homie
Damn those mig-31s are that big? That’s crazy
I love you for saying that most videos you do will be about Russian Chinese and other countries' vehicles because most western vehicles are already well known. I get bored from seeing so many videos on the same aircraft, it's always the f16,f15,f22,f35 or the apache that it is being talked about and never about aircraft like the Su30, Su35, Mig35 or Mi28
Same, his videos about Chinese and Russian equipment (and also some EU equipment like Gripen or Rafale) are the most interesting and very rare to find on UA-cam.
Couldn't agree more.
Love that Famous Russian Aircraft book you use!
I have several FRAs, all written by author Yefim Gordon, who seems to specialise in writing doorstops... his output is prolific to say the least. I have a sizeable collection of books from various eras, and his name is most common as far as post cold war "Eastern" planes are concerned
Speak for yourself... Most of us never underestimated MiG 31...
For sure, I was surprised to hear such introduction, the MIG 31 is an unique aircraft with a rather unique role and as a result comes with capabilities that no other aircraft can match.
One of the very few channels speaking without bias.
SBI-16 Zaslon-AM is a FMICW radar, like the AI.24 Skyhunter of the Tornado F.3. This translates, roughly, to a 'Hi-PRF all the time', so as to get best range capability from the system in the outer engagement zone.
While Zaslon can function in a PD mode, it's primary LDSD, extended range, engagement capability is not assured by this because the power required to maintain track on low RCS targets (original AGM-86B = .25m2, original TLAM-N = .5m2) is not compatible with the impedance loading density and range uncertainty of a Medium PRF system. Which otherwise generates the best Doppler across a wide range of aspects.
Therefore, the combination of the system's older design with the sophisticated Baget radar data computer likely uses another method: patch framing.
Similar to SAR, this creates a frame of averaged clutter returns around a known MTI as a radar memory buffer page of enhanced range gate references, from which a tracking cell can be established as differential reference times (between range gated clutter features) speeds indicating aspect change. In combination with the PESA's ability to make rapid scan pattern/waveform changes; this allows constant, HPRF, measurement of target state in passing thru/against the known-distance clutter field.
Though originally employed as a RIO/WSO trick on Vietnam period F-4s, enhancing video contrast to 'pull' cluttered target movement shift, radars are actually quite good at this, automatically.
Now let's consider the R-37M itself. First, the missile is much shorter than the original K-37 (AA-X-13 Arrow) which scored a 308km kill, back in 1994. Shorter = torsionally stiffer, with greater potential maneuver capacity and potentially lower cruise drag because the wings of the R-33 are now strakes, much closer to the center of lift, thanks to the miniaturized actuator system and gas generator for the thermal battery which forced the older weapon's motor forwards, towards the middle of the missile. A longer motor, made possible by wraparound tail control servos and a warhead which is shifted aft make for a more unstable = energetic missile with an 8G target override vs. the 4G of the Amos missile.
This is further aided by the fact that the 'wheelspan' of the control fins is actually greater than for Phoenix.
Again, this is a missile which is designed to hit small targets with a non-nuclear warhead in a strategic defense mission where every missed intercept = a million dead civilians. Final terminal excursion capabilities may be as much a function of maintaining clear aspect return sightlines on a scintillating rcs cuis missile as much as a max evading threat fighter G capability. But they will be considerable, nonetheless. The whole 'bomber killer' nonsense is a Western projection of what made it justifiable to retire the Phoenix as Tomcat from service. It has nothing to do with the reality of a hyper maneuverable missile as indeed both the PAC-2 GEM (16") and the SM-6 Block-1 (21") are 'fatter' and heavier than the R-37M yet nobody doubts their efficacy as 'once locked on, you might as well just eject because you're not evading it' _fighter killers_. The same is true for the 48N6DM and 9M96M2.
Now, let's consider the capabilities of the missile GCS. I have seen references to both a 60` offboresight and a 120` off boresight capability. If the latter is true it can only be because either the 9B-1103M-350 or 9B-1103-M15 (two different CNS) systems is in fact an AESA in a rotary repositioner.
But it highlights the differences in the way the missile works. First off, there is reason to believe that the missile may well be able to see returns from multiple illuminating radars and share their aspect independent merged target return, via TVM.
Since it is moving at a considerable rate and may have an AESA antenna, it is likely generating its own doppler on the threat and so, in combination with the angle-rate calculations of the various parent/midcourse illuminators, be able to apply its own, range rate, capabilities due to highly enhanced doppler of a Mach 6+ midcourse.
The resulting, 'is this the guy?' ability to generate a composite 3D track from midcourse onwards is a notable advantage to SARH homing vs. stealth targets and would be a notable advantage of a weapon with purpose built, FOG, gyro autopilot and precision antenna pointing.
Finally, the missile has a 'dual band, dual mode' homing seeker. While switching from SARH to ARH is not all that new, the ability to step from X 8-12 to Ka 18-25 Gigahertz is. In that it allows the missile to switch up to a very high PRF waveform which is much more sensitive to surface irregularities in a 'spotlight', precision pre-pointed, mode which illuminates the target and only the target, specifically.
R-37M has routinely been stated to be able to track the F-35 and has, in testing, tracked a .1m2 tactical ballistic missile which it intercepted, only 5 seconds from launch, at a closure of Mach 10.
Which brings us to employment modes. Supposedly the AA-13A Axehead has three principle options: A. Active After Launch. B. Radio-Corrected Inertial. C. Reprogrammable.
The first mode is important for systems like the Su-35S and Su-57 (both of which have accredited Axehead kills) because they combine the hypervelocity, direct engagement, capability of the weapon kinematic with a 50% greater than AMRAAM C-5 baseline acquisition range of 18-20nm.
When you get downrange faster (no loft) and you acquire further, your MAR skate zone is bigger and your shot count per target is lower for any given SSPK. The threat cannot run away with cranks and hooks.
RCI is the baseline TVM mode which brings with it a 'no warning' Linear Slide intercept mechanic in which advanced AI drives the missile guidance steer algorithms to put the weapon ahead of the target intercept vector and then snap back against it, to maintain optimum target:seeker alignment and minimize target G-avoidance options. This is not PN based homing and it again takes major advantage of the missile hypervelocity status and wide off boresight capabilities to allow the weapon to trajectory shape its own endgame, homing to zeroed LOS-R and then committing to an FQ pure intercept.
Reprogrammable is the most mysterious. It may suggest the ability of the weapon to handoff to separate illuminators. As happened in the 1994 test, when the (period) MiG-31 could not see the target at range and needed the aid of an Su-30 to accomplish the full intercept. In a modern context, with the Su-57 known to be active in-theater; the suggestive update to this technique is to allow for max range handoffs of 400km or more, followed by terminal illumination by a stealthy platform which does not have to commit to close approach to provide No-36 updating.
At its most simplistic, this suggests the ability to simply designate target A-Pole search footprints based on a common waveform and pilot/WSO observed target behaviors (ground track vectors). Such as would allow the missile to arrive at a useful height and downrange capability to clear interruptive terrain mask and score planview acquisition kills in an optimized snapdown maneuver.
At its most sophisticated, it may suggest multimode NCW/CEC and even passive AA-ARM capability, based on previously entered waveform data and handoff handshake codes as well as specific threat emitter types. The Zaslon is likely a 30kw radar which has a large PAO coolant capability to permit constant duty cycle and 1.1m power products to maximize tracking distance. Combined with four Foxhounds in a flight, this could put enough cooperative sensing energy onto target to enable tracking of even stealth air vehicles. The AGM-129 had an RCS of .1m2 and the Zaslon can see that, within useful Amos ranges (69nm max flyout).
When you have a big missile, being produced at specific state-factory profit ratios, the potential exists for a very sophisticated GCS/CNS interaction to be value-added to the weapons system.
ARGUMENT:
Pursuing stealth, certainly as a be-all/end-all may well have been a mistake. The F-14D ASF/Tomcat 21 was abandoned and the Phoenix weapons system retired so that there would not be a 'good enough' competitor to AFX which the USN desperately wanted to rival the F-22. Because yes, they are children like that.
Stealth dictates weapons bay size and makes doctrinal Douhet assumptions about penetrability which simply do not hold up, in the longer term. Especially when VLO itself is so sensitive and fighting Peer State rivals so dangerous that it can only happen via proxies who are not cleared to have access to the likes of the F-35.
With this as a given, what rules the access to medium high altitude airspace is heavy, radar SAM. And overmatching that capability is what innately requires the look-in/shoot-in capability of VLRAAM. Both as early detection counters to the likes of Tochka and ATACMS.
And as a means to deny the threat FEBA access to the frontal battlespace with which to support troops in contact. Or to provide area defense against interdictors.
Heavy R-37M usage over Ukraine began in June 2022, it picked up again, in September/October after 'parts' were delivered, mid-summer to supposedly reconstitute an maintenance unserviceable force of MiG-29 and Su-27.
Yet there are Russian pilots with as many as 9 Axehead, kills. And the demand for Patriot became so extreme by December that it was finally acceded to by the Biden Whitehouse.
If, on any given set of 30 days, in the last six months, the R-37M was fired six times per day with a .25 SSPK, the Axehead has scored 45 kills from what was likely never more than 60 jets in total.
When you have the Kiev Post writing entire articles dedicated to underlining how bad a missile the R-37M is, how 'it can be beaten if it can be detected' and 'besides this, the Russians are probably running out of them...' as pure copium, you know it's a nightmare that is very much at the top of Ukrainian monster-under-bed thoughts. Because they spent so much energy, in July and August, trying to shut down the airfields in Crimea where its MiG-31 carrier is/was based, with risky drone attacks.
CONCLUSION:
It is likely that the Ukrainian air force effectively no longer exists. It is likely that the PAC-2 GEM-T, with its 190km engagement capability, is desperately needed, as a replacement for lost Flanker/Fulcrums. And as an alternative for S-300s which are being rapidly depleted and/or hunted down chasing low value drones and cruise missiles.
Far from being an exotic, single-mission, 'bomber killer' capability that has limited application in the real world, the VLRAAM may well be the hallmark of future airpower with the speed to be reactive, the range to be able to operate within a friendly SAM bastion while standing off from a hostile one. And the sophistication of guidance to hit very difficult targets.
It has the potential, in combination with powerful AI radars and/or VLO, the option to be used, quasi-ballistically, with conventional missile trucks launching weapons which are targeted by penetrating midcourse handoff platforms ranging from stealth fighters to UCAVs, to completely disrupt enemy air operations in their own rear areas. Around MOBs, refueling tracks, and ISR/BMC2/BACN orbits.
We have made a grave error in ignoring the potential of these missiles. Not least because they _can_ be used, externally or as part of an expeditionary capability, to aid proxy allies in peripheral wars where stealth cannot be.
You have so many mistakes ,sorry. N007 Zaslon is classic pulse-Doppler radar that can work in 3 main combat modes : PPS or front hemisphere or incoming tracked aircraft ( working mode of the main transmitter is High PRF ) max instrumented search range 600kms . AVT or avtomat ( automatic ) that is PPS/ZPS or front/rear hemisphere combat mode ( incoming and receding simultaneously tracked aircraft ) which combines High and Medium PRF and with max instrumented search range of 400kms. Then we have ZPS or rear hemisphere combat mode ( receding aircraft) with Medium PRF working mode of the main transmitter and with max instremented search range fo 200kms . PRF in High PRF mode is 200kHz and PRF in Medium PRF mode is 50kHz. So the RIO in the rear cockpit has one switch with 3 marks : PPS ,AVT and ZPS .
Radar N007AM Zaslon-AM that is in MiG-31BM is something new and as I wrote before this radar for the first time in one fighter works in C band . Antenna system is from original N007 Zaslon ( 1.1 m in diameter ) but with new waveguide system and also new digital radar computer Baget-55-06 that is more capable then the old Argon-15A .Main transmitter is more powerfull ( 10kW of average power in HPRF mode ) ,secondary one is older and works in X band for CWI of egaged targets.
About R-37M, yes the radar homing head type 9B1103M-350 called Shayba is dual-band /dual-mode where ARH mode works in Ku band and SARH mode works in X band . Radar homing head does not have AESA but plannar array with waveguide system for both active mode ( Ku band ) and semi-active mode ( X band) . This dual-band /dual-mode radar homing system is also used in new A2A missile R-77-1 . It is very hard to jamm because both of modes can be used simultaneously or separetly . Boresight angle limit is +/-120° ,so total angle aspect for search ( FoV ) is 240°. Something that possess Su-35S radar N035 Irbis e.g. because antenna reflector of Shayba with diameter 350mm is gyro-stabilised and has gymball to move and roll the antenna . About guidance of R-37M ,we have two phases: first as inertial ( INS , autopilot and with proportional approximation method ) with possible use of data-link channel ( radio-command channel ) with max range from radar of 100kms. Second or terminal phase with ARH or SARH mode ( as mentioned simultaneously or separetly) .
What we have here :
''Which brings us to employment modes. Supposedly the AA-13A Axehead has three principle options: A. Active After Launch. B. Radio-Corrected Inertial. C. Reprogrammable.
The first mode is important for systems like the Su-35S and Su-57 (both of which have accredited Axehead kills) because they combine the hypervelocity, direct engagement, capability of the weapon kinematic with a 50% greater than AMRAAM C-5 baseline acquisition range of 18-20nm.''
R-37M ( Izdeliye 610M ) has two launch modes : in WVR with use of ARH mode only ( LOBL capability ) but only on Su-35S with missiles attached under wings and air intakes . This combat mode can not be used in MiG-31BM 'cause all 4 R-37M are semi-retracted under fuselage. In BVR we have LOAL capability with that INS/ radio-command /correction channel and ARH or/and SARH mode in terminal phase . About Su-57 ,for Su-57 we have new missile designated as R-97 ( Izdeliye 810 ) . Do not understand that detail of comparison with what AIM-120C5 ??? Where is relationship between heavy R-37M and much smaller and lighter AIM-120C5 anyway ?
Then we have this :
''The Zaslon is likely a 30kw radar which has a large PAO coolant capability to permit constant duty cycle and 1.1m power products to maximize tracking distance. Combined with four Foxhounds in a flight, this could put enough cooperative sensing energy onto target to enable tracking of even stealth air vehicles. The AGM-129 had an RCS of .1m2 and the Zaslon can see that, within useful Amos ranges (69nm max flyout). ''
30kW of what ? Did You know that Zaslon has max output power of almost 1MW when works in HPRF mode ( mode where radar energy goes from the reflector of the antenna to open airspace and it is not so called EA / EKV mode or Equivalent of the antenna mode, ''stand-by mode'' as westerners called it where radar signals go from transmit channel to the reflector of the antenna ) . 69 nm or about 120kms ??? Yes, if MiG-31's pilot launches it from only 5kms of altitude . Max possible effective or as we use to say in military dictionary , max authorised launch distance for engaging big air incoming target by the parameter ''Drmax1'' for R-33 is 250kms ( launching parameters : real speed =2.8M , altitude =22kms ). In many trials from 70's and in 80's , MiG-31 engaged radio-controled bombers Tu-16 from a distance of 200-250kms . Launching parameter 'Dr max 1' ( translated from russian ) is Authorised distance for engaging big non-maneuverable aircraft.
About that stealthy cruise missile AGM-129A ACM that is no more operational , RCS in X band in front aspect was 0.01m2. It is interesting to note that basic version of Zaslon from 70's has capability to detect US stealth tactical bomber F-117A and low flying cruise missiles Tomahawk and AGM-86 ( RCS in X band 0.1-0.3m2 ) from very long range even that USAF aircraft and missiles were not operational in that time ( MiG-31 with N007 Zaslon became operational in 1980) .Then we had modernized N007A Zaslon-A in MiG-31B / BS from the beggining of the 90's to detect new strategic stealth bomber B-2A and new stealthy strategic cruise missiles AGM-129A ( RCS in X band 0.01m2 ) from very long range. Again , MiG-31B with Zaslon-A became operational before those USAF aircraft and missile . Modernized version N007AM Zaslon-AM which works in C band for modernized MiG-31BM that was first publicly shown at MAKS 2005 , has capability to detect new USAF stealth fighters F-22A and F-35 , possibly new hypersonic missiles and new aero and quasiballistic missiles from very long range. All best !
Love the "31"...such a kinda romantic mystique surrounding it. Wonderful aircraft...just love it 😍😍
The Gripen is a fine plane but East European users have stated that its climb rate is way less than the MiG-29. You need acceleration for long distance BVR.
for bvr you dont need acceleration. you need top speed a good radar and a good missile to boot however this combination relies on the opponents not having/using stealth fighters. but its a perfect combo for fighting ukraine
@@WigSplitters Correct, you need speed. You have to get to that speed, you can't just maintain it for an entire aircap.
The Gripen E has a much better thrust to weight ration with the new engine, F414-GE-39E turbofan, also developed by General Electric.
@@Gripen90 Indeed, but the Gripen E is not on the cards. The Ukrainians would get C models.
@@marcg1686 and it doesn't matter anyways, the mig31 engines are built for extreme altitudes unlike most other engines, I would assume that at the high altitudes the mig31 has a better acceleration than most modern jets even with its weight
Great videos as always, people are always afraid of ignorance.
Excellent research and great report! You sir are the #1 Source for accurate information on these Russian Aircraft! Great Report! So informative!
One of my Russian Friends in Telegram told me that according to most Russian Ministry of Defense declarations in Russia - It is the 4 decades old Soviet era equipment which are performing well & actually keeping Russia in the fight. For example If one notices carefully then most of the T-90A & even some T-90M Proryv have been ripped apart by Javelin ATGMS. On the contrary, the Soviet manufactured T-72B3 has performed relatively well, though the performance is still very bad but better than T-80 or T-90. Similarly, The old BMP-2 has been much more useful than the much vaunted BMP-3, BMP-T. The New Stereguschiy, Buyan-M class Corvettes & the Frigate "Admiral Makarov" have been similarly useless for the Russian Navy. However, as long as The Slava Class Cruiser "Moskva" was Active in the Black Sea, it was an absolute nightmare for Ukraine. That Old ship single-handedly pulverized Ukrainian Military's Southern command. Coming to the RuAF, the much vaunted Su-35S was repeatedly shot down by Stinger MANPADS in the beginning of the war. Dozens of Su-34S,M, Su-24D, Su-25M & Su-30 SM, SM2 have been shot down until now when they were operating against 4 decades old Soviet era Air Defenses fielded by UkrAF. Surprisingly though, the Soviet Era Sukhoi Su-27 SM3 & the Mikoyan-Gurevich Mig-31 BM were much more successful in the Air Combat Patrols carried out by them, with the Mig-31 claiming several Air to Air kills against UkrAF Mig-29s. When I asked him the reasons for the better performance of older equipments, he replied that The Soviet Armed Forces were Far more professional than the present day Russian Military. While the Russian military is corrupted to the core & gladly inducts half-baked platforms whose Actual Performance is not even close to its paper specifications, the Soviet military had a strict testing phase before inducting any platform. Love it or hate it, but the USSR was a True Military Superpower with a competitive Military Industrial Complex whose 4 decades old equipments continue to outshine even the Latest Russian Military equipments in the battlefield.
Sounds like bullshit to me....
They were first to space for a reason.
Lol, my Russian friend told me all the contrary.
@@goranstevanovic4724 Possible but I do think that Soviet manufactured equipments have fared far better than Post-1991 Russian manufactured equipments. Mig-31 is a shining example.
Unbelievable that the Grippens could be the perfect answer. Way to go SAAB!
Growling Sidewinder played a scenario with the Mig-31 un DCS and boy, it was tough!
As always I am watching the video many times in order to catch any small piece of info I could've missed.
The Grippens biggest problem was they didn't make US politicians and defense contractors rich. Just bc an aircraft is better doesn't mean Nato will use it. Corruption plays a big part in utilization...unfortunately.
@@olliefoxx7165 I'd say it is the least problem for Europe with US being their "friend") Buying american weapons instead of perfect indigenous ones is one the things that keeps EU at the short leash.
@@redsun9261 Yes, you hit the nail with that. The US insists Nato countries use American weapon systems for "system integration and better implementation ". All that does is hurt the domestic manufacturers of that country by taking money from them and putting it into weapons made in America. This makes Nato countries more reliant upon America. I remember getting pissed at some of the Nato countries that wouldn't pay the minimum amount for Nato membership every year. Those countries would spend the money on social programs instead. American tax payers would foot the bill and make up the difference. I didn't learn till later that the US used that to make all those countries dependent upon the US for weapons as well. When the US controls your foreign security, your weapons and the high tech/satellites it controls your foreign policy. Letting America control your foreign policy is the WORST thing a nation could do. Sweden and Finland are making a HUGE mistake by getting into Nato. They're going to regret it one day.
Another thing to mention is the old mig31 had a few mission sets but one of them was to knock out low flying cruise missiles. It can travel above mach 1 at surface levels but it can also fire its missiles at higher altitudes at low flying targets quite effectively.
Now in Ukraine the A-50u mainstay has proven to be very, very important. It in conjunction with the upgraded mig-31bm is able to hunt down low flying aircraft that in the first couple months in the war were able to avoid ground based radar. This is one of the secrets of success for the aircraft.
A Harrier and Mig-31 in the same airspace at 13:10! Another great video!
I was trying to figure out what model it was. Pilot was holding station like a boss also
You mean the anti-pigeon kite?
Excellent, thank you! You explained this exceptionally well.
MiG 31 is a beast. Can’t wait to see Mig-41.
I doubt their will be one.
Thank you I appreciate your knowledge from Canada
This guy really knows his stuff, especially when it comes to russian aircraft, aerodynamics, structures, engines, weapons and radar ! 😊
1 of my favorite aircrafts...mig 31....breathtaking...
Excellent video as always,wish you good luck and health in new year and of course keep up with good work!
Very plausible analysis. Well done!
Brilliant video, Gus. Excellent work, sir.
Some people think you're paid by Russia? That's ridiculous. You're paid by UA-cam. That's a lot worse, but thank you, anyway. I always enjoy your videos and learn a lot from them.
I love this guy, always keeping it 100
Came quite late to this channel but, for me, that is good thing as there is some excellent content that I have yet to see. Detailed but very engaging - some other channels seem to be nothing more than reading out the Wikipedia page.
Mig-41 is currently under development. It will exceed Mig-31 on many fronts. You can also expect ground breaking new features as well. Most likely will have unmanned AI version for much higher speeds and manoeuvres. Russia is learning a lot in Ukraine and I expect there will be major changes in modernization in the future.
One of the coolest planes ever...
Another point: Launching at higher atmospheric density greatly reduces the exhaust velocity of the rocket motor. This reduces both efficiency *and* thrust at a time the missile is fighting more drag.
I had read about this combination of MiG-31 and R37 and why it was so potent, but you give a very clear overview with specifics. Thanks even if you are a Russian Media .... Sorry couldn't finish with a "straight face". Again, thanks.
Thank you. I believe you're not promoting Russian aircraft but just giving us the plain facts as they are. You're doing an excellent job. There will always be detractors and those who disagree and I'm glad you took it maturely.
I've long thought the mig31 is their most dangerous fixed wing aircraft, anti sat weapons, hypersonic cruise misiles (maybe), its a dark horse. Probably more reliable than many more modern aircraft . Same respect for Alligator for rotary wing
Superb video with the start sound footage and the message to switch off in your own interest 😅
I will admit he did throw a book at us.
It's a sledgehammer... It is built that way... For any and every plane that may play smart to rise and attack their forces... It was built as an overkill...
Full throttle go BRRRAAAAP!
How big are those exhausts, anyway, relative to the Blackbird's engines?
that's a funny situation since stealth has been all the rage for decades now
Smoke and mirrors have always been the western strategy, we all know how much that mythology helped the f117 pilot over Serbia.
I don't understand the surprise from people. The Mig 31 was a purpose built interceptor for taking down the SR-71. Changing the target to a SU 25 which is no where close to as fast or as high up as the blackbird should make the aircraft effective. Used on allied aircraft I would expect similar results on a tornado, A 10, and older models of the F/A 18 (with out support ofc).
Great to hear some objective analysis for a change. Well done. Now if only people would learn to play nicely…
mig-31 can reach SR-71 speeds. it basically made mig-31 obsolete
While true, the ONE that did so, had to have its engines replaced after the run.
@@johndavidwolf4239 the cost of having engines replaced are far lower than the huge maintenance cost of the SR-71. that was never an issue
@@johndavidwolf4239 that was the mig 25 not 31
To me, the Migs have always been the coolest looking fighters.
Great video. I always try to see two sides of the coin.
Why is it unusual and surprising that interceptor intercepts?
4:30 I thought when one was flown to the west it was revealed to have far more steel than expected?
Ahhh, you are thinking of the MiG25 that was brought to Japan by defecting pilot, Viktor Belenko. The "rabbit-killing" radar quote was also from him referring to the plane. He also mentioned of a two-seat version being developed, this was the MiG31.
Thanks for the updates. Love your podcasts.
Sounds Good i want to hear about Military Aircraft outside NATO..First saw the MiG 31 at the Paris Airshow on static display. It had its nose cone Off.
N035 radar is N011M2. On same way Zaslon will be updated which will increase the range by 50%.
That is mean new R 37M2 too. Small Kinzhal missile?
Wish they added the mig31 on dcs Flaming Cliffs 3.
I appreciate that you included the basics of how kinetic and potential energy assist or impede the effectiveness of missiles at altitude and at a further range. Seems simple, but we forget basic physics at our peril in combat.
So the Ukrainians need a high-flying fighter above and closer to the front to fire back. looking forward to your book
Be interesting to see Patriot vs Mig-31.
is the mig31 gonna carry kinzhal ?
Серьёзно? Предлагаешь передать хуситам МИГ 31 ? а какие ? "М" или "К"? Я полностью одобряю эту идею, а то последнее время цены еа нефть не справедливо низкие....
@@алкаш918 He mans the single Patriot battery the US will be sending to Ukraine... eventually... within years, if there's still a Ukraine to send it to.
7:36 🤗
Banderites hate the Mig 31 with Kinzhal missiles
Look at the US. We still use the B-52, A-10, & C-130.
Ignore them and keep on doing the content you prefer
it is my favorite plane on the whole planet, imagine if they rebuilt them with titanium and carbon fibre, modify the surfaces with radar reflective material.
can search mig-31 m monster but failed
Fantastic, as usual. Bravo.
Good lord! Emotional damage!!!! Beating up on the F-35 gang! 🤣🤣🤣 truth hurts less then polite lies! Thanks for sharing this research!
they are using the MiG-31BSM upgraded in 2014 or MiG-31K upgraded in 2018 to carry the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal.
Great insight ! Thank you
I enjoy your work.
Excellent analysis, as usual.
Thank you for making these videos.
I have a question that I hope you or one of your watchers can answer. What does the slogan on the base of the vertical stabilizer mean. Seems to be on all the Russian aircraft now.
Excellent presentation. Just excellent.
In a sense, the Mig-31s are being used in exactly the way they are supposed to be used here: intercepting airborne targets. Even though they are not intercepting strategic bombers from the US.
I am however curious to know if the Mig31’s L band radar could get a proximity location of B2s.
Yh L bands are very good at detecting stealth so it definitely would be able to figure out a b2 is in the area
@@little_error295 that’s still not very useful as you need missile lock to kill it and chances are that B-2 is being escorted by F-22s which you can see easier but you still can’t lock on.
@@luigimrlgaming9484 I really doubt missile lock is as hard as people think two f117 where shot down by Serbia ffs and those even today have very low RCS values although being inferior in every other aspect that doesn’t account for radars becoming much much better since then
@@little_error295 they only shot down one and they got lucky because the bomb bay doors opened the moment they turned on the radar.
@@luigimrlgaming9484 no they shot it down after it had already dropped the bomb and was leaving the bomb bay being opened increasing the RCS gave them conformation it was the plane they where after lol the f117 completed its mission you are right that it was one though that was my bad
The exact specifications are of little concern. The fundamentals are we will engage the threat from a distance to far to be detected and fire the kill shot that itself is undetected. Until it’s to late.
Lately, as of January 2023, a number of countries have been trying to get F-16s shipped to Ukraine (but the US is stalling as they did with tanks for so long). Is there a missile compatible with the F-16 that would work with the appropriate tactics to counter the Russian Mig-31 and R-37M threat?
Thanks for all of the great videos.
Aim120D but that’s the newest missile In American arsenal. (2015)But again if it’s launched from the worst conditions it will have inferior range to r37.
It is a great looking beast of an aircraft.
Excellent video. Thank you. 2 questions;
1. Will the L-Band negate the stealth on an F-22 or F-35?
2. Will the IRST detect the heat generated by an F-22 Supercruising at M1.8?
1. Some math shows that the mig31 should be able to see an F35 at about 40nm and an F22 further than that. However with even the current aim120D's both the F22 and F35 will able to engage the Mig31 before it can engage them. The Lband means the mig31 can spot them at range, but not ID or engage them.
2. Depends heavily on the irst system and environmental factors. The EF2000 claims it can spot head on fighter sized aircraft at over 50nm with its IRST, but looking at the manual for the system installed on the Su27s, the range for those is more like 15-20nm in optimal conditions. To answer your question, it depends on a myriad of factors.
1. Probably not negate but reduce the advantage.
2. In general every irst will do, the range depends on the specific conditions
@@92HazelMocha Excellent. Thank you.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech F-22 supercruising at a clear 40,000+ ft, zero cloud cover or MAX AB at a crystal clear 60,000ft, I will confidently assume the IRST will perform well. Stealth...Interesting game isn't it?
1. I wrote before, L-band in Zaslon is only for IFF/ID work and not for search-detect-track work .Only fighter in the world with long-range decimetric L-band ( AESA ) search-detect-track radar is russian 5th gen fighter Su-57 . That radar is 2D ( with two angular coordinates: azimuth and distance but without elevation data ) and has also IFF/ID capability .
2. IRST in MiG-31 type 8TP works in shortwave IR band ( 3 microns ) but possess huge IR detector, so called heat pelengator . It can work in two different modes : searching for average wavelengh of skin temperature and average wavelenght of nozzle gas temperature. What is the main problem in F-22 when supercruise at M1.5 or more ? The main problem is in TIT ( Turbine Inlet Temperature ) or very high temperature in front of HPT ( High Pressure Turbine ) when engines F119 work in MP ( Military Power ) mode. That temperature IRST can see from a great distance. I can give one data , IRST 8TP can detect incoming fighter that flies on AB mode from more then 200 kms .
Awesome discussion.
"Is actually saving your back..."
Actually is covering your back.
Is covering your back.
Has your back.
Thanks for pointing out. i still miss some of these expressions sometimes...
Since NATO countries are now delivering tanks to Ukraine, maybe delivering fighter aircraft like the Gripen isn't off the table anymore. The only issue is, their pilots need to be trained on those aircraft. I'd assume that takes much longer than being trained on, say, a a new tank or even the Patriot system.
Being that it’s not made of nickel and has LEX aswell as fences on the wing. How much maneuverable is it from the heavy nickel Mig 25? I’d assume the Mig 31 maneuvers somewhat closer to the F-15 but I can be wrong on how the aluminum, and titanium affected the weight.
it still wont be that good
It's manoeuvrability is comparable to a house.
Jokes aside I think the limit is around 5 or 6g, less with full fuel load. The fuel capacity is around 15,000 kg itself. One of the best Soviet test pilots, Alexander Fedotov died in a MiG-31. At low altitude shortly after take off the fuel indicator showed rapid loss of fuel, he made a sharp turn back to the air field, but the fault was with the indicator, he still had full fuel load. With the unexpected extra weight the plane rolled over into the ground.
Still not even close to even the F15, but the Mig31 was not built for maneuverability. It was designed to shoot down large aircraft like heavy bombers and support aircraft from safe distance. It won't win any dogfights, but if you're in a dogfight in a mig31 you've made a long list of errors already.
L'hanno già detto che quell'antenna misteriosa serve a prendere Radio Maria su tutto il globo a 20.000 metri?
The pilots and crew in western AWACS and tanker planes certainly don’t view it as a relic nor any military aviator. I don’t know where this perception even came from.
Very informative and more important not too much biased and it would be nice weekend if you enlighten us about the role of Russian A-50 mainstay operating from Belarus and its relation with drone and missile Attacks thanks
A mixed bag
The Mig 31 has always been a capable aircraft!!
Much love to the 31 💞💞
.....Millennium, direi l'opposto seguo questo canale dall'inizio e posso solo dire che gli incompetenti sono una buona parte di quelli che postano video di aeronautica su youtube. Inoltre con mia grande sorpresa l'anno scorso ho scoperto anche che sei italiano e questo mi ha fatto grande piacere (non so perchè ma pensavo fossi francese o belga). Notevole il video dove hai spiegato la tattica impiegata dai russi nel primo giorno di guerra. I più sinceri complimenti.
Grazie per la conferma sul fatto che è italiano perchè ne ero sicuro al 99% dall'accento ma guardando sul canale e su patreon non ho mai trovato conferma hahahah
Grazie molte a tutti ma per favore, commentate in Inglese cosi' tutti possono leggere. Grazie.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech It's all good, grazie a tutti :D
The mig-31 is actually very mechanically impressive. This is a mach 3+ capable aircraft with a very short turnaround time between flights, that’s not easy to do as anyone who knows about the blackbird’s maintenance schedule will be aware.
As heavy interceptor it is very hard to control it .MiG-31 has MTOW almost 50t and its landing weight is bigger then MTOW of some fighters .From about 530 serial produced , from 1980 until the end od 2022 little more then 50 of them were lost ( 4 MIG-31BM were lost in 2022 alone ) . Pilots call them 'Locomotive' . All best
@aviator77migsukhoi34
So was the sr71, but we built a couple dozen, and they built hundreds of these.
Remember the mig31 is not a fly by wire aircraft. Yes it is dangerous compared to modern aircraft. It was essentially very early 4th gen.
One of few channels with a unique take on military aerospace tech: you make your own topics and chose the most interesting ones. Inspite of other "hot" topics, you create your own even more interesting and hot ones! The Foxhound in an outstanding, elusive and powerfull aircraft.
MiG-31 is elusive because they have so few they dare not risk them in actual combat. But how good is it really? The never caught the SR-71 so Mach 3 sounds optimistic at best.
@@davidelliott5843 the Mig-31 is the premature ejelactulator of mach 3 aircraft.
@@davidelliott5843 they were not contemporary. So, it was a little difficult for a MiG-31 to intercept a Blackbird
@@gustavoantonelli No it was not. With radar Zaslon and especially IRST type 8TP , MiG-31 always detected and tracked SR-71 from a great distance. In several situations , distance of detecting-tracking with 8TP was over 200kms ( SR-71 was like a flying comet with temp in cruise mode in higher stratosphere of about 2000°C ).
With R-33 , MiG-31 could engage incoming SR-71 from about 250kms and with R-40TD-1 from about 200kms .By the way , both missiles were hypersonic with Vmax 5 M and 6 M after acceleration phase. All best
@@davidelliott5843 RuA&SF and RNA (russian naval aviation ) have more then 150 MiG-31 and MiG-31BM as operational . All best .
Continue your great work sir and ignore those who call u a Russian bot. They just hate it when anyone says anything good about anyone else other than merica ..... as a fighter jet fan, I love the knowledge u give us so thank u
Great video. I saw a video about the Mig31 and it’s modernization program. I was very impressed.
Outstanding video about an amazing aircraft - thanks for uploading! The MiG-31 may be one of those aircraft that was actually ahead of its time, and just needed to stay in service long enough to demonstrate its capability.
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The Mig31 is a pure interceptor (apart from carrying the Kinshal on modified versions),and at that still unmatched in the world. It still has a very capable radar and weapons suit and flight performance is breathtaking.
Saying that mach3 interceptor with 300km missiles is relic of little use is a mistake that would get you killed in air combat.
Seems like a relic because it was designed to intercept bombers and cruise missiles during the cold war. A role which is largely obsolete...
luckily, it's not internet trolls are fighting Russia because they believe even Russian nukes don't work and willing to test that. lmao.
@@MGZetta thank fuck reddit generals aren't making importan strategic decisions that could affect the fate of billions of people.
Depence agains who is used, used against modern fighters mig 31 is relict and that is fact.Bigest problem of Russia jets is their size, they are too big and they are easy target for any modern west made jet.
@@MGZetta Those trolls who think Russian weapons and nukes don't work are either too young and/or crazy.