I can’t when there a still photo of the bike it’s in a dark room ? I can’t even see what it looks like. And when it’s moving outside there’s odd photo shots so you only see the corner and front ??
Ye know - buying one of these bikes in the present day (from small start-ups) probably feels like when people bought bikes back in the day that the original classic bikes were built - they were start-ups back then too.
@@ghfiytdcoliuo8 That I likely true. But you are referring to people who have become 'trader's in Chinese bikes. This video is about start ups who are true entrepreneurs: they have a dream, raise what ever scrap of capital they can get, build their dream and go to market. Will they survive? Well they have the exact same odds of surviving as the original bike builder (less than a 20% chance)
Here's the problem - In the UK, the Super Soco TCX starts from about £4400, has a top speed of around 60 MPH, & a range of around 60 miles. A Honda CB125F has a starting price of around £2800, has a top speed of around 70 MPH, & a range of around 500 miles on a full tank. Fuel prices might be high, but the difference of £1600 goes a long way on filling up that tank, & don’t forget that electricity also costs. For more serious Bikers, the fact that a 650 equivalent EV, with a range of less that 100 miles to boot, & will cost 3 to 4 times the price....let's get serious, it's got a long way to go, if at all.
Two things. By now I’m sure you have heard of Zero motorcycles. The other thing is, good luck pedaling one of those home with a flat battery. If any of those bikes with pedals are any good they would have a system called walk along/behind call it what you want but on the last of the battery it will assist you pushing it home if needed.
yeah that's a really solid idea. The thing that sucks about Zero from what I've heard is that their range isn't what they say, like in practical situations its about half what they claim. Would be cool to see them release a retro styled bike! but yeah cool idea for sure!
@@bartmotorcycle Read the small print about every range or milage claim made anywhere or do a bit of common sense math about battery capacity and power needed to have faint traces of fun at highway speed. I'd guesstimate 13KWh/100km. Are Zero really worse than others or the only ones with published reviews?
i remember starting to look at electric bikes around 2010 and wondering how long it was take before they really hit the market in a big way. i probably should've at least bought one that's also a pedal assist style but it's wild to see all these companies going for a 100% motorcycle feel a decade after I started looking
I was surprised you didn't mention the Zero, I have a Zero FX at $12,737 and I just love it. The best bike I've had after owning 25 bikes over the last 50 years.
Thanks so much fir the list!! I’m really interested in electric, no pedal motorcycle/scooter that does at least 60 mph… mainly because the roads I’d be driving on 45-50 is speed limit, but nobody goes the speed limit!😬👍
Hey Bart, I pre-ordered the RGNT Classic 1.0 in February 2021. My motorcycle is in production now as the improved 1.5 version. I got grandfathered in with the price. The 1.5 is around 2000€ more. I am expecting delivery in January 2022 to Ibiza, Spain. Stay tuned for some serious eye candy with a smaller carbon footprint.
@@thoughtsforthemind yes. I am still waiting for my temporary license plate. It looks even better in person. It had a glitch with selecting between the two power modes and the tech person updated my software remotely. Slick.
Hi, saw your comment. I'm wondering how the specs (range) hold up on Ibiza roads with the hills and such? Are there enough places to charge the bike over there? Would be great to get your feedback😃
I live in Ibiza, Spain. I have pre-ordered a RGNT No.1. I am hoping for delivery in August. The nearest authorized dealership is in Barcelona. Fingers crossed.
The first prototype had a couple of rounded dials/screens and it was beautiful. Unfortunately, the production ones come with that huge square screen that simply does not fit with the retro aesthetics.
Personally, I dislike retro styling. But supporting your channel. Good job, overall, on the video. Hopefully, you'll do one on futuristic-styled bikes, too.
Good video👍 the RGNT... when electric can (honestly) compete with gas bike prices and more important, recharge as fast as fuel. So (real world) road trips are possible! When electric can do that I’m in.
@@bartmotorcycle you can for about a minute and then you’ll realize how pointless it is. The pedals are just there to make the bike pass as a class 3 ebike. It’s a 150-160 lbs and there’s no pedal assist function. You can pretend pedal like i do when i’m on bike trails, I just throttle it a bit around 10-12mph and pedal at the same time so it looks like i’m doing work lol
@@bartmotorcycle It gets going real quick and can get away from you if you're not ready. It's a pretty fast bike and I've been having a blast riding it.
definitely won't be ever pedaling the huck or onyx. both their bikes' pedals are puch cranks - not meant to pedal lol. also, they don't consider themselves motorcycles so i wouldn't. but great list. i think the cleveland cyclewerks bike definitely fits the styles of the others and is honestly the one that stands out to me as the realistic bike. tarform is the ultimate but i like the industrial design of the falcon.
Kits are the way to go, all you need is a bicycle and approximately FIVE HUNDRED bucks for a kit and big enough battery to go around 15 miles before charging at work to get you home.
The moped shown in your segment on the Tremel Zimmner isn't the Tremel Zimmner, it's actually a similar looking bike from a dutch company, called the Meijs Motorman
Hey Bart, Good vid, can't wait to see your next list now that ur on the hunt for sweet electric rides. Two Aussie elec rides l know of are Fonzarelli, and Savic. Chek em out. Until next time 🏍
a 28mph e-morotcycle is a big Hell No. my mid drive ebike does over that for $500 . 1 dollar per watt or better is my measure of a Good Deal on e motorbikes or ebike now-a-days ⚡
I'm kinda digging the OX but that last one kinda nice too. Just doing my research ans as you pointed out these start ups dont have the readily available support built yet. But within time I suppose
yeah I feel the same honestly, its sad but we need honda and triumph and other brands to crank out some compelling electrics. But I'm still probably going to prefer this style to whatever honda puts out.
It blows my mind that no a single company has made a throttle only bike with pedals that act as a energy generator when pedalling. So like yes the pedals are there... But it's mainly for charging the battery.
Very interesting and informative video, thanks. My nitpick so far 😢, some of the details were missed like please at least tell three things range, charge time and top speed. Sorry you missed only one or two but I am petty 🤦♂️ 😂 Can you do a video with best electric motorcycles specification wise 🙌
So, what about the SuperSoco TC / TCmax, the Horwin, or maybe the Kumpan? Admittedly, the Kumpan is a retro scooter, not a bike, but looks really good.
All of these E-bikes are too expensive for what you get. They need a longer range to serve the biking world. A quicker charge time is also important. I ride a gasoline motorcycle today and I average 250 to 400 miles a day, so you can see these e-bikes just will not work for me.
To be honest I don't like any of these. They try to imitate a petrol bike, but they aren't. The old bikes from the 60's are so iconic, because their design was utilitarian. The Gas Tank was on top of the carb because it is the simplest method to fill up the carb without a fuel pump. The engine was build in an open way to make the air run through it in order to cool the engine. But all of that is no longer needed. A truly classic electric bike would follow the utilitarian philosophy. But now they are just electric trains trying to look like a steam lokomotive. Sorry for typos, i am german
Unfortunately, as far as I know in the UK. . . . anything that has electric power and no pedals is illegal to operate without a license and or off-road. Different nations within the UK. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, and England will enforce the laws differently. But essentially the idea goes if it has pedals the electric component is seen as an additional aid to go up hills and not the main source of power. Unfortunately, no ones going to make a sick-looking 125cc with deployable foot pedals any time soon so this is why it keeps the innovations and market low. This is also why electric scooters are being confiscated from hapless kids and adults alike that genuinely just want to live their best lives. Yet here we are, we can't have good things.
I believe in the US they are designated by the kilowatt hour of the electric motor, wether they have pedals or not. if I remember rightly anything below 800 kilowatt hour. doesn't require an operators license. and it has to be marked in plain sight on the ebike.
I hate to say this -- but if the Chinese decide to get into this market, I think they will sink a lot of startups and prevent the big manufacturers from participating. They pay ridiculously low wages to their workers and the workers are driven to produce. They will ship the bike directly to you; along with a nifty catalog of spares (replacement batteries). You assemble it and license it, you ride it. They're already doing this with tens of thousands of products. There's no such word as "anyways."
The range isn’t acceptable and the bikes are way to pricy if you ask me. It would be great if electric motorbikes are getting te same upgrades like ‘normal’ motorbikes, like luggage bag’s, a faster chargingport (in the netherlands we use 230v 35A as a standard for homes and most of us are now switching to a 230V 3x25A so charging power enough) and a way better range. The range is the most important to me. If it’s bellow 300km it’s not worth it. The Energica Ego+ is getting a decent range by now(420km or 260 miles) and has a fast charger on board). The BMW CE 04 is also a cool ‘retro’ 🛵 but the range is way to low to become interesting. Zero motors make cool bikes also but is way to expensive when doing upgrades to it. It’s also a strange thing to buy a motorbike and when adding more range you have to pay extra and some software does the job. The battery was already there… Your type of motors are the retro styled motorbikes and I think it would be better if companies transform old motorbike to electric instead of making new. Nevertheless great footage about these new retro motorbikes 💪👍🏍⚡️⚡️⚡️
All of them seem to have the same frame design. They look good, don't get me wrong. But I guess thats the point of retro style. I just bought a Sonders Madmods Cafe. And it's fuuuun
There is no excuse for the price of these batteries. Even in low quantities NKON sells some from reputable suppliers that would be way cheaper. EG if it's a 3.5kWh battery pack that is delivering 8KW (12HP) peak You would need a pack capable of delivering 80A at 100V. IE 40S 8P arrangement. EG the LG INR18650-HG2L 3000mAh - 20A at $1700 the lot. That would actually get you 3.5kWh (320 x 3.7V x 3Ah). So why is the pack near $7000?
I think you got the charging time wrong on the RGNT or maybe they changed it, their page says "Charging time 20 - 80%: 3h" so 100% shouldn't be that much more.
Two things to consider ; number one : If you insist of buying one now, then you need a quick removable battery unit, so that the battery can be removed, and could be charged in the house or garage, or in your flat! Number two: In ten years or so, most countries, UK, Germany, France etc, will ban the sale of the IC engine in cars and bikes, and then you will have no choice, but to buy an electric bike or car! So until then, just use your motor bike without the limitations and added cost an electric motor bike, i.e: just don't buy one now!! The era of the IC engine is drawing to a close, so get some fun riding why you can, with a nice noisy exhaust soundtrack!!!
Unfortunately since the late seventies, maybe eighties, motorbike design has been all about trying to appease a certain customer! The companies all do their marketing and gather " information" on what they think their customer is looking for. When they spec out a new design, its all about how it looks ! The problem is that the bike designers are not proper bikers! and now its all style over substance!! Case in point, my BMW R Nine T scrambler 2017 new!! Looks very retro, and it looks very " cool" . However the front mudguard is too short, had to buy an extender, there is no rear mudguard , so the shocks get covered in mud and shit. Had to buy a rear mudguard , which wasn't longer enough either, had to by some shock covers too! And to get at the battery you need to strip half the bike!. The same with trying to change the air filter, remove the tank, FFS ! To keep my bike charged up over shutdown, I had to hard wire an electrical socket to trickle charge the battery. I know as a designer myself, that certain design layout decisions and compromises need to be made! But at the end of the day, simple maintenance things like changing a battery and air filter shouldn't require a freaking UA-cam to show you how to dismantle half the bike! So yes, Bike designers, have a lot to answer for, and the need to make the bike look good, normally ends up on the account of its everyday practicality!
Before you spend thousands on these toys, ask how many charging cycles the battery pack takes. Get that in writing, with a guarantee that the seller will replace the battery pack if it does not deliver 75% of the promised charging cycles. Some have less than 500 charging cycles, 16 months worth, if you're lucky.
Interesting list, Fake tanks, fake sounds are a little pitiful like fake grill on an electric car. Just buying a future joke. Only the last one, kind of pulled it off. the one with the fake head fins. Wish it was clear if they actually helped cool the battery? That might be cool? My opinion, Move forward or go back home. Transition vehicles will just be a novelty. Won’t stand the test of time. The pedal comments are weird? Were they class two? If so? That’s a valid reason. Where can you drive a throttled bike without pedals and without a license. That might not be possible?
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I’ve watched this video over SO many times
I can’t when there a still photo of the bike it’s in a dark room ? I can’t even see what it looks like. And when it’s moving outside there’s odd photo shots so you only see the corner and front ??
I'll sub if you tickle my pickle 😆
Ye know - buying one of these bikes in the present day (from small start-ups) probably feels like when people bought bikes back in the day that the original classic bikes were built - they were start-ups back then too.
@@ghfiytdcoliuo8 That I likely true. But you are referring to people who have become 'trader's in Chinese bikes. This video is about start ups who are true entrepreneurs: they have a dream, raise what ever scrap of capital they can get, build their dream and go to market. Will they survive? Well they have the exact same odds of surviving as the original bike builder (less than a 20% chance)
Here's the problem - In the UK, the Super Soco TCX
starts from about £4400, has a top speed of around 60 MPH, & a range of
around 60 miles.
A Honda CB125F has a starting price of around £2800, has a top speed of
around 70 MPH, & a range of around 500 miles on a full tank.
Fuel prices might be high, but the difference of £1600 goes
a long way on filling up that tank, & don’t forget that electricity also
costs.
For more serious Bikers, the fact that a 650 equivalent EV, with a range of less that 100 miles to boot, & will cost 3 to 4 times the price....let's get serious, it's got a long way to go, if at all.
No catalytic converter.
If nothing else, this vid reminds me how varied our perceptions of style & beauty can be!
Two things. By now I’m sure you have heard of Zero motorcycles. The other thing is, good luck pedaling one of those home with a flat battery. If any of those bikes with pedals are any good they would have a system called walk along/behind call it what you want but on the last of the battery it will assist you pushing it home if needed.
yeah that's a really solid idea. The thing that sucks about Zero from what I've heard is that their range isn't what they say, like in practical situations its about half what they claim. Would be cool to see them release a retro styled bike! but yeah cool idea for sure!
@@bartmotorcycle Read the small print about every range or milage claim made anywhere or do a bit of common sense math about battery capacity and power needed to have faint traces of fun at highway speed. I'd guesstimate 13KWh/100km. Are Zero really worse than others or the only ones with published reviews?
i remember starting to look at electric bikes around 2010 and wondering how long it was take before they really hit the market in a big way. i probably should've at least bought one that's also a pedal assist style but it's wild to see all these companies going for a 100% motorcycle feel a decade after I started looking
Nothing touches my pickle, not even to tickle.
I was surprised you didn't mention the Zero, I have a Zero FX at $12,737 and I just love it. The best bike I've had after owning 25 bikes over the last 50 years.
The zero isn't retro styled
Glad I went with LiveWire One. Has the looks and performance and “knock wood” they will still be here 5 years from now.
Did it tickle your pickle? 😆
Thanks so much fir the list!! I’m really interested in electric, no pedal motorcycle/scooter that does at least 60 mph… mainly because the roads I’d be driving on 45-50 is speed limit, but nobody goes the speed limit!😬👍
Hey Bart, I pre-ordered the RGNT Classic 1.0 in February 2021. My motorcycle is in production now as the improved 1.5 version. I got grandfathered in with the price. The 1.5 is around 2000€ more. I am expecting delivery in January 2022 to Ibiza, Spain. Stay tuned for some serious eye candy with a smaller carbon footprint.
Todd, did it arrive?
@@thoughtsforthemind yes. I am still waiting for my temporary license plate. It looks even better in person. It had a glitch with selecting between the two power modes and the tech person updated my software remotely. Slick.
@@thoughtsforthemind There’s a nice video review by Dark Visor on UA-cam.
@@toddkolod thanks! I’ll check it out :)
Hi, saw your comment. I'm wondering how the specs (range) hold up on Ibiza roads with the hills and such? Are there enough places to charge the bike over there? Would be great to get your feedback😃
I like the Eyesing's form. I prefer the rounded edges.
I live in Ibiza, Spain. I have pre-ordered a RGNT No.1. I am hoping for delivery in August. The nearest authorized dealership is in Barcelona. Fingers crossed.
Man let me know what you think when you get it!!
@@bartmotorcycle Why certainly. I posted your video on the RGNT group FB page.
Thanks!
@@bartmotorcycle Now the main RGNT FB page has posted your video.
@@toddkolod awesome!
The land district is the one I love I've been in love with it for a while now though
I also like the Cafe Racer silhouette but I like the Indian silhouette and of course Harley and Honda's classics.
God bless you.
the price of these, is WHY many people wont even go electric .prices really have to come down massively
You actually can get a really low priced ebike that performs well depending on where you look.
@@BronzeLincolns81
Hey Yudo,
Such as where?
Thanks
🙏
For me it's range vs chargin time. I'm not going to be trapped in my house for 1-8 hours just so I can ride halfway to my nearest city.
The Swedish regent is a beautiful bike. If I were to pick up an electric bike that’d be it.
The first prototype had a couple of rounded dials/screens and it was beautiful. Unfortunately, the production ones come with that huge square screen that simply does not fit with the retro aesthetics.
Personally, I dislike retro styling. But supporting your channel. Good job, overall, on the video. Hopefully, you'll do one on futuristic-styled bikes, too.
Yeah I think everybody has different tastes! thanks for the support :)
Good video👍 the RGNT... when electric can (honestly) compete with gas bike prices and more important, recharge as fast as fuel. So (real world) road trips are possible! When electric can do that I’m in.
I have an Onyx and it's too heavy to pedal actually but it's such a fun bike
Liked you physically can't pedal it at all?
@@bartmotorcycle you can for about a minute and then you’ll realize how pointless it is. The pedals are just there to make the bike pass as a class 3 ebike. It’s a 150-160 lbs and there’s no pedal assist function. You can pretend pedal like i do when i’m on bike trails, I just throttle it a bit around 10-12mph and pedal at the same time so it looks like i’m doing work lol
That's hilarious, does it feel really quick? I've heard it's pretty fast
@@bartmotorcycle It gets going real quick and can get away from you if you're not ready. It's a pretty fast bike and I've been having a blast riding it.
definitely won't be ever pedaling the huck or onyx. both their bikes' pedals are puch cranks - not meant to pedal lol. also, they don't consider themselves motorcycles so i wouldn't.
but great list. i think the cleveland cyclewerks bike definitely fits the styles of the others and is honestly the one that stands out to me as the realistic bike. tarform is the ultimate but i like the industrial design of the falcon.
Kits are the way to go, all you need is a bicycle and approximately FIVE HUNDRED bucks for a kit and big enough battery to go around 15 miles before charging at work to get you home.
The moped shown in your segment on the Tremel Zimmner isn't the Tremel Zimmner, it's actually a similar looking bike from a dutch company, called the Meijs Motorman
I’m waiting for the Husqvarna E pilen to come out.
Just bought a husky Vitpilen 701. the Epilen's pretty cool. I have a couple of ebikes as well
the RGNT is going to become a future collectible.
We get a 180 kms range amd a top speed of 105 kmph. We are working on two more prototypes and are gonna launch in 2022
You should have a look at the emula guys.... That's a proper electric motorcycle
I love the idea and use the sun to recharge the batteries.
Really like the switch hopefully its in a decently afordable price range
Hey Bart,
Good vid, can't wait to see your next list now that ur on the hunt for sweet electric rides.
Two Aussie elec rides l know of are Fonzarelli, and Savic. Chek em out.
Until next time 🏍
a 28mph e-morotcycle is a big Hell No. my mid drive ebike does over that for $500 . 1 dollar per watt or better is my measure of a Good Deal on e motorbikes or ebike now-a-days ⚡
I like how you think
That is the best UA-cam video title i have ever seen! Seriously 😂
"I don't want a pickle, I just want to ride on my motorcickle. And I don't want to die, I just wanna on my motorcycle." Arlo Guthrie
Great review Bart.... I have no idea why this has not had more views. anyway Stay upright and keep on keepin on Bart🏍🏍
Bobbymax
Thanks! 😃
I'm kinda digging the OX but that last one kinda nice too. Just doing my research ans as you pointed out these start ups dont have the readily available support built yet. But within time I suppose
yeah I feel the same honestly, its sad but we need honda and triumph and other brands to crank out some compelling electrics. But I'm still probably going to prefer this style to whatever honda puts out.
TARFORM FOR ME! Getting the new model VERA in 2025.
Thanks for an amazing list!
It blows my mind that no a single company has made a throttle only bike with pedals that act as a energy generator when pedalling. So like yes the pedals are there... But it's mainly for charging the battery.
9:25 listen to that grinder Machine 😆👌
13k for a bike is INSANITY !
you could easily build a bike with better stats for under 10k
Very interesting and informative video, thanks.
My nitpick so far 😢, some of the details were missed like please at least tell three things range, charge time and top speed. Sorry you missed only one or two but I am petty 🤦♂️ 😂
Can you do a video with best electric motorcycles specification wise 🙌
You forgot to add to the list, pegas partizan, the biek that's actualy in the first scene of the video :D
So, what about the SuperSoco TC / TCmax, the Horwin, or maybe the Kumpan? Admittedly, the Kumpan is a retro scooter, not a bike, but looks really good.
All of these E-bikes are too expensive for what you get. They need a longer range to serve the biking world. A quicker charge time is also important. I ride a gasoline motorcycle today and I average 250 to 400 miles a day, so you can see these e-bikes just will not work for me.
Someone should do a modern EV version of the Classic Honda CT Minibikes.
YES I agree
why not you? it's why most people live in misery...never chasing their dreams
To be honest I don't like any of these. They try to imitate a petrol bike, but they aren't. The old bikes from the 60's are so iconic, because their design was utilitarian. The Gas Tank was on top of the carb because it is the simplest method to fill up the carb without a fuel pump. The engine was build in an open way to make the air run through it in order to cool the engine. But all of that is no longer needed. A truly classic electric bike would follow the utilitarian philosophy. But now they are just electric trains trying to look like a steam lokomotive. Sorry for typos, i am german
Cleveland looks nice to me, kinda CyberCafe :D
Unfortunately, as far as I know in the UK. . . . anything that has electric power and no pedals is illegal to operate without a license and or off-road. Different nations within the UK. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, and England will enforce the laws differently. But essentially the idea goes if it has pedals the electric component is seen as an additional aid to go up hills and not the main source of power. Unfortunately, no ones going to make a sick-looking 125cc with deployable foot pedals any time soon so this is why it keeps the innovations and market low.
This is also why electric scooters are being confiscated from hapless kids and adults alike that genuinely just want to live their best lives. Yet here we are, we can't have good things.
I believe in the US they are designated by the kilowatt hour of the electric motor, wether they have pedals or not. if I remember rightly anything below 800 kilowatt hour. doesn't require an operators license. and it has to be marked in plain sight on the ebike.
@@musicauthority703 Kilowatt hours refer to the capacity of a battery. It's got nothing to do with the power of a motor.
Hey brother. Please make a top 10 beginner electric motorcycles for a reasonable price.
Maeving do really cool looking retro electric bikes!
Can we speak of the title though it gave me a good laugh😭
Good review and the right choice. Just subscribed.
I hate to say this -- but if the Chinese decide to get into this market, I think they will sink a lot of startups and prevent the big manufacturers from participating.
They pay ridiculously low wages to their workers and the workers are driven to produce. They will ship the bike directly to you; along with a nifty catalog of spares (replacement batteries). You assemble it and license it, you ride it.
They're already doing this with tens of thousands of products.
There's no such word as "anyways."
The range isn’t acceptable and the bikes are way to pricy if you ask me. It would be great if electric motorbikes are getting te same upgrades like ‘normal’ motorbikes, like luggage bag’s, a faster chargingport (in the netherlands we use 230v 35A as a standard for homes and most of us are now switching to a 230V 3x25A so charging power enough) and a way better range. The range is the most important to me. If it’s bellow 300km it’s not worth it. The Energica Ego+ is getting a decent range by now(420km or 260 miles) and has a fast charger on board). The BMW CE 04 is also a cool ‘retro’ 🛵 but the range is way to low to become interesting. Zero motors make cool bikes also but is way to expensive when doing upgrades to it. It’s also a strange thing to buy a motorbike and when adding more range you have to pay extra and some software does the job. The battery was already there… Your type of motors are the retro styled motorbikes and I think it would be better if companies transform old motorbike to electric instead of making new. Nevertheless great footage about these new retro motorbikes 💪👍🏍⚡️⚡️⚡️
All of them seem to have the same frame design. They look good, don't get me wrong. But I guess thats the point of retro style. I just bought a Sonders Madmods Cafe. And it's fuuuun
I’m mostly a city rider, if I could get an electric version of my W800 that’d be awesome as. Also, RGNT looks good, but can it flip reset?
There is no excuse for the price of these batteries. Even in low quantities NKON sells some from reputable suppliers that would be way cheaper. EG if it's a 3.5kWh battery pack that is delivering 8KW (12HP) peak You would need a pack capable of delivering 80A at 100V. IE 40S 8P arrangement. EG the LG INR18650-HG2L 3000mAh - 20A at $1700 the lot. That would actually get you 3.5kWh (320 x 3.7V x 3Ah). So why is the pack near $7000?
Thats not a Tremel , thats a Meijs Motorman
I think you got the charging time wrong on the RGNT or maybe they changed it, their page says "Charging time 20 - 80%: 3h" so 100% shouldn't be that much more.
They all look pretty rad.
Two things to consider ; number one : If you insist of buying one now, then you need a quick removable battery unit, so that the battery can be removed, and could be charged in the house or garage, or in your flat! Number two: In ten years or so, most countries, UK, Germany, France etc, will ban the sale of the IC engine in cars and bikes, and then you will have no choice, but to buy an electric bike or car! So until then, just use your motor bike without the limitations and added cost an electric motor bike, i.e: just don't buy one now!! The era of the IC engine is drawing to a close, so get some fun riding why you can, with a nice noisy exhaust soundtrack!!!
Moped means motor and pedal. If it doesn't have pedals, it is either a scooter or a motorcycle.
You are missing the Black Tea Motorbikes Bonfire X...
Where is the " Bonfire x" by Black Tea?
What about Bultaco,and it's new electric motorcycle?
Check out Atumobile's Atum Vadar E
Is that voice Fluump?
Definitely tickled my pickle
nr 4 is not a tremel zimner! it is a meijs motorman from The Netherlands!
Receiving my Sondors Metcycle in October. Gonna cost me $6000 shipped to my door.
What color did you get? I would have ordered the black but all the colors look pretty badass
They told you the shipping cost already? Where are you located?
+1 comments for support this team 😁
Have you checkout Bultaco ebikes they have two of them.
Nice video fluump
Check out yatri from Nepal. Those are cool bikes.
So this is where fluump went
3:49 consider my pickle tickled
It's a shame these companies all seem to say "cafe racer or go fuck yourself" for retro bikes.
Check out the new Royal Enfield electric : )
None of these devices have a carrier, they are pure fun products.
How do they measure range for bikes with pedals? Is it done at a certain speed, only throttle?
Ranges are disappointing. We’ve come along way in range for auto this last decade. Bikes should be further along by now.
The Eysing would look 1000% better if that big gaping hole under the tank was filled with a proper engine.
Shame that designers don't think about the real world .Some of these need real functional mudguards.
For real lol
Unfortunately since the late seventies, maybe eighties, motorbike design has been all about trying to appease a certain customer! The companies all do their marketing and gather " information" on what they think their customer is looking for. When they spec out a new design, its all about how it looks ! The problem is that the bike designers are not proper bikers! and now its all style over substance!! Case in point, my BMW R Nine T scrambler 2017 new!! Looks very retro, and it looks very " cool" . However the front mudguard is too short, had to buy an extender, there is no rear mudguard , so the shocks get covered in mud and shit. Had to buy a rear mudguard , which wasn't longer enough either, had to by some shock covers too! And to get at the battery you need to strip half the bike!. The same with trying to change the air filter, remove the tank, FFS ! To keep my bike charged up over shutdown, I had to hard wire an electrical socket to trickle charge the battery. I know as a designer myself, that certain design layout decisions and compromises need to be made! But at the end of the day, simple maintenance things like changing a battery and air filter shouldn't require a freaking UA-cam to show you how to dismantle half the bike! So yes, Bike designers, have a lot to answer for, and the need to make the bike look good, normally ends up on the account of its everyday practicality!
Nice video, thank you.
How about an retro styled electric car
I think people would buy that
There needs to be some support from the governments to support the switch to eco friendly vehicles
nice vid. Why isnt Zero on your radar?
gears ! so that you don't have to go full rpm for full speed ! = more range ! and much better regeneration !
Hi Bart 🙋
Price is ridiculous for these
Before you spend thousands on these toys, ask how many charging cycles the battery pack takes. Get that in writing, with a guarantee that the seller will replace the battery pack if it does not deliver 75% of the promised charging cycles.
Some have less than 500 charging cycles, 16 months worth, if you're lucky.
I use actual Cleveland Welding Company 1950's bicycles. 50mph.
you missed the black tea motorbike :)
E scrambles is bout 11k and that’s still too expensive
Yamaha rx100 electric is out in india.... and is shaking the market..
9:30 Sounds like my washing machine
Interesting list,
Fake tanks, fake sounds are a little pitiful like fake grill on an electric car. Just buying a future joke. Only the last one, kind of pulled it off. the one with the fake head fins. Wish it was clear if they actually helped cool the battery? That might be cool?
My opinion, Move forward or go back home. Transition vehicles will just be a novelty. Won’t stand the test of time.
The pedal comments are weird? Were they class two? If so? That’s a valid reason.
Where can you drive a throttled bike without pedals and without a license. That might not be possible?
Electric Retro needs a fake engine and a fake exhaust otherwise there is IMO nothing Retro about it.. The RGNT does look the best of all
have you heard of Yatri motors?
Curious if you could define the word retro
Number 6 was more a Ebike than a motorcycle.