Both packs available now at www.SAVOTTA.fi and VARUSTELEKA www.varusteleka.com/en/product/savotta-kahakka-15l-combat-pack/79099 www.varusteleka.com/en/product/savotta-kahakka-25l-combat-pack/79105
I do, however, wish you would’ve shown us how it zips down the front of it to see how much it opens up because that’s one of the things about savotta that I don’t like. Is that packs don’t zip down so you can access them from the side of the front.
We want to give you extra bonus points for attaching the sleeping pad vertically on the front of the pack with the elastic cord, this is a great way to carry it. Sleeping pads are so light that they don't mess with the balance of the pack, and vertically carried the pack stays narrow and the underside free for stuff like hip packs or belt worn pouches. We highly endorse this method, 5/5.
Thank you! I saw photos of you guys using this method and tried it out. Moving through the trees confirmed it. I can’t think of any other packs I have used that facilitate this style. Really excellent.
With external frame packs back in the day, we got used to strapping those huge old timey tents to the top portion of the frame, and the foam mat underneath the pack. I remember in the 80s trying to figure out a way to strap those bulky items vertically, but the hardware just wasn't there. And I carried the Savotta flagship 906... Thank God for modern packs that have options!
You look like a kid at Christmas going over those bags 👌 those side pouches are a fantastic design! Excellent work savotta and excellent review video sir 👍👍👍
Thank you for showing some more ways to utilize the bags. I ordered a 15 and 25 for work and leisure and I’m excited for them. Love the content on your channel and have subscribed. Cheers!
Thanks for the review on the 2 Kahakka packs. I was enthusiastic after watching Tim Keys's initial video on the 25-liter Kahakka pack several days ago. This video confirms that the Askare 7-liter hip pack and the 25-liter Kahakka pack are now at the top of my *"Next Outdoors Thing To Purchase List."* Also, thanks for responding to several of the questions that I posed to Tim Keys. For an extended trip I can see piggybacking my 12-liter Hatka day pack onto the back of the 25-liter Kahakka pack. If one chose to wear the 7-liter Askare hip pack, then a lot of the weight from the Kahakka/Hatka combo would ride comfortably on ones hips.
I instantly ordered this Beauty in a heartbeat! It’s my 4th Savotta Backpack, and I love the 3 I own already to death! I can’t wait to get the Kahakka 25l in my grabby hands! 😊
HOLY POWERS of PISS! A pack with real pockets, I hate that mesh crap - catches on 'everything' and even a 1 litre bottle hardly hangs in on smaller ones, especially if you need to bolt or are in a reasonable water current... (actually Two packs! ) FILTHY AS MATE. ( The poms made a good burgen a little bigger than the 25 you have here but, it was heavy, no water resistance, no pockets and few anchor points which are now - 'antiquated'! ) SO, finally a no bullshit bombproof Bergen fit for modern times and modern equipment... NO - Two of em'. Shiiit! Has anyone noticed you can fit small shit in a big pocket, but you can't fit big shit in a small pocket. Jess... You LEGEND mate.💜👍 Universal Sovereign Citizen
At the moment i got the news mail from Savotta about the pack i was sure you gotta throw out a video and here it is nice! Thanks for showing all the bits and pieces, a lovely and well thought out piece of equipment... but at this point i cant justify buying another pack... already have 3 from Savotta x)
@EnduranceRoom This is one of the most in depth and enjoyable gear reviews I’ve ever watched. You clearly explain everything with a positive attitude and have earned another subscriber today!
PU lining for water resistance: thanks for mentioning it. the website description didnt mention it. and i was wondering about the water resistance of pure cordura...
↟↟Hey Jess🙌🏻 Another awesome stuff from Savotta & another great review form You👍🏻 I don't have time to watch all the videos yet, because I'm busy with my building project in the Forest right now, which takes a lot of time and effort, but I'll definitely watch it later.. Take care Brother ✊🏻🐺🐾 Cheers
Awesome review Jess. You're so giddy about savotta haha I feel you, they rock. Ever since I bought my jaakari m I've been hooked. The quality is unmatched. I'm pretty interested in the 25 L. Awesome products from savotta. Thanks again. And it's good to hear from you.
Thanks, Kyle! The side pockets are definitely the business. Adds a ton of flexibility in loading. So does shock cord. The Finnish shock cord is the best I have seen. It’s a really nice way to do a simple mod for not a lot of money that will significantly increase carrying options.
I bought the Kahakka 15 l pack. Mighty fine pack. My father used to carry a leather satchel in Finland and I am thinking he would have loved this pack. So to carry on the Karjala tradition there was no other choice for me but to stay with my roots. There are so many options here for carrying more gear that I could do an overnighter with this pack. From Kuolemanjärvi to Pyssysalo, from my fathers place to my mother's I have to carry the tradition on.
It is 31 Liters with the side pockets (3.1L each) with plenty of room for expansion as needed. Word on the street is there will be 2 larger packs this winter, a 40L and a 60L
The 25 is a great 'never comin' back-pack'. The large side pockets and zipper pocket make the difference. Certainly two rugged packs that are designed exceptionally well for longevity. Cheers Jess. Universal Sovereign Citizen
Thank you! Indeed our "special sauce" is the sense of seriousness when it comes to military gear, we aren't making the most fancy, fast and special type of gear for that 0,01% of hyper speed door kickers. We make serious, sensible gear for the 99% of users, with an emphasis on ease of use and reliability in the sort of environments we've got over here. The Finnish Defence Forces commonly use gear made by us for decades before they are too far gone for repairs.
Thanks Brother. You are spot on, as usual. The side pockets are absolutely incredible. Such a simple, yet highly effective/efficient idea. Cheers my friend. 🤝
Ya know, thanks to you, about 6 months ago I bought a jakkari S, and thought it is the last pack I could ever want, or need (i like simple).. but now!? These!?! Ugh.. those side pockets are what I thought the jakkari could use.
I haven’t made any videos on the S, as I don’t own one. Nonetheless, the 4L side pouches are a great addition to it. So is a beaver tail or shock cord.
Good Morning Jess .. 👍👍👍 .. another Great one. I think that Savotta has really hit the Sweet Spot with these two packs 😊. Not taking anything from the larger 25 litre, it is nice to see a Day Pack with a decently-sized pair of Side Pockets that can do an honest day's work and more and not get in the away when not needed. Not those gossamer 'mesh' 'unmentionables' (substitute with your own adjective 😁) which are the mode at the moment. Even better, a very 'clean' base that can be accessorised to suit every which way but loose. I would love to .. but the pockets are not deep enough 😟. A positive though, my Savotta Jääkäri S Jäger can continue getting my undivided attention 😊. Thanks for the Share, my Friend and until the next, take care .. Tommy
Hey Tommy, Thank you! Oh man, they definitely cracked into something good with these. The pleated pocket is brilliant. From what I have heard, they wanted an all in one pack, no accessories needed, but easy enough to add on to whenever necessary. The G hooks are interesting. Little slower than SR buckles, but certainly handy for attaching stuff. Have a good one! 🤝
Great run down. I've got a 25L one and an askare on the way. Pretty stoked. Have you got any advice on a good length of bungee cord to use in the webbing? Also, is it the same as paracord where you just cut and burn it to seal it?
Thanks! That’s really cool. Bungee cord, I would run pretty long, it’s probably 6 or 7 feet, or 2 meters. I keep it long enough I can use it for my sleeping pad. Anything smaller like a jacket or tarp will easily cinch down with that also. If you are ordering it, I would grab like 5-6 meters of Finnish shock cord and a handful of their cord locks (it’s the best). Yes, burn to seal after cutting to length. Just run it and figure out your length before you cut it. It’s easy to do, just take time and measure up with your gear before you cut.
A while back I bought a Mystery Ranch ruck about the same size as that 25L model. The Mystery Ranch is a little cheaper but I think I'd prefer that Savotta. Damn it! 🤣 Nice review, very sweet they sent them to you, the 25L is over $200! You're going to cost me a fortune!😂
Perhaps not. If something lasts 3-5 times longer than something even half the price then the investment has saved you more than money. But ultimately we buy the best we can afford... (Your obviously smart cause you clearly know that.) Keep savin' $! 👍
Great review Jess. Both look like winners for sure. I saw the the 25l is available at Varusteleka now but not the 15l, yet. I was watching Tim's video and asked about whether either or both could be run with the askare underneath and he sent me to you. Nice! Nate
I will post something with the 15L and ASKARE soon. In the video at 1:44 there is a photo of the 15 with a 6L side pouch on it, which is very similar in size to ASKARE.
@@EnduranceRoomsaw that that’s an indicator but unfortunately I still can’t image how much of the 15L bag will be covered by the hatka Which is fully loaded so 10-12L
@@m3th0dm1n I am sorry. I had ASKARE on my mind. HATKA will fill it up as it has pretty much the same overall dimension, but is a bit thinner. The compression straps will snug it down as well. I will post a pic when I get some time.
@@Notorious.Torrez5024 Thank you! It would be possible, but probably not ideal. Between the 2, the 15L would be best for something like that. I really like the HATKA 12L for attaching to other packs. It is very light (only 1lb) and is very useful. For mounting as a second pack, it is well worth taking a look at.
I have a question.... If your quite a big guy does the 15 look a bit unusually small on its own... Would 25 be more in scale ...if that makes sense?...ps I also own the Jääkäri M so maybe the 25 is too close to that ...your thoughts ?....great review btw
@@norseman1137 Thank you. It is quite a capable little pack. Great for short trips to carry a few essentials and some tools. I do prefer the 25 between the two, as it can handle similar small loads as the 15, but also larger loads. Size wise, the 25 is probably going to be a better fit for you. It is similar, but different to the Jääkäri M, The Kahakka is a little lighter and very flexible. The M is better suited for heavier loads (especially if using the aluminum frame).
I am looking for a daypack to attach to the outside of my Jaakari L, with the intent to leave the main pack at camp before climbing up to the summit. Which small daypack would you recommend to attach to my Jaakari? The Hatka, or the Kahakka 15L?
@@ssito3515 I would go with the HATKA or the ASKARE hip pack. Either would work. More volume in the HATKA, but there is plenty of room in ASKARE for essentials. Both can be paired up very effectively as well. You could run the HATKA on the back and the ASKARE inside of the JÄÄKÄRI L or vice versa. Lot of options.
Such an ingenious solution to the age old problem: side pouches or not? Molle was ok but a bit of a hassle. I preferred Berghaus's zipper attachment. May have to retire my Centurion now, the big Kahakka looks like a major improvement.
Thanks a lot for the in depth video 💪 If I may ask?; Can one attach the 15l to the 25l like you did in the other video with the smaller packs? And what are the dimensions of the velcro pad on top to attach patches on the 25l? 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks! The packs are both really nice. You could attach them together if you had to, but I don’t think that would be optimal. The HATKA, ASKARE or 1 or 2 side pouches would be a better fit on the back. The velcro panel is same size as on HATKA, about 3.5” x 6”
Hello! Thanks for a very informative video! I have a question that you've probably already been asked. I have a Keith titanium canteen mess kit (1100 ml). I see that the bottle fits without problems in the side pockets but is there enough space for the cup and bottle in the side pocket of the Kahaka 15? Greetings from Sweden
Thank you! It should fit fine. The way the pockets are designed make the capable of carrying quite a wide variety of gear. Savotta is very good at answering questions on their gear. If you send them a message, I am sure they would be able to give a definite answer. Cheers
Well done introduction video. There are no videos about these backpacks yet and you did a really good presentation of the backpacks. I don't know if they would be suitable for my own use. Something about those backpacks seems like they are not pleasant. I just can't really say why. I have Savotta products and backpacks. They've been good.
Thank you. I found them both to be quite comfortable, especially after adjusting shoulder straps to my frame. Sternum strap on both, waist strap on 25. The only thing I would say, is that the packs have a flat back, rather than any kind of ventilation like on the Jääkäri M. You can adjust the pack to loosen up and give your back some air, with the bottom of the pack resting on hips. It is currently in 90s here and this works for me. I really like them both.
I’ve just realised, despite being subscribed for a long time, I haven’t had any notifications for a couple of months!☹️ It’s good to have you back, plus I have a glut of your videos to watch.🤔😁👍 On another note, is that Belgian camouflage on your shirt, it looks similar, but not quite; or some former Belgian/African country?🤔
Oh man... yeah, I have noticed weird things with the numbers for awhile. My count goes down when I put something out quite often, then some new people will come in and it will go up a bit. The camo is old school USMC frog skin, aka duck hunter. Really nice for a variety of conditions, plus the fabric is light, so great for summer.
Nice backpacks brother. You are lucky your tall. There bigger pack there. Is 19 inches tall. So short guy me. Doesn't work. One of the only packs, military style. I could find. To fit with a battle belt. Is the short, but good size. Russian 6sh117. The only problem is. They only make it. In digital flora. Not atac fg. Great video man. Cheers 🍻
Thanks brother. That pack is pretty sweet. If you want to mix up the camo on it, maybe try adding some skrim through the webbing. You could give it an atacs vibe, with texture.
Hey, great Video, thx! I see you punching in into the video quite often. The Resolution looks a bit coarse in these cases. If your Camera supports 4k, it might be an Option as to have more resolution to work with :) In the End you can still export as 1080p
@@EnduranceRoom De nada! ☺️ Glad I might be of help. There are - as with most everything - some downsides: - Larger Filesize (up to 4 Times as much) - Higher Load on the Workstation you use for Cutting (but most modern PC's handle it well.) - Some Cameras use more power when recording in 4k and might overheat easier As well as all the implications that come with the facts stated above, like i.e. shorter recording times or more money for larger SD cards, longer Copy / Transfer Times, taking up quite a lot more local Disk Space etc. etc. In case that's to annoying, 2K might be a good tradeoff (roughly 2x 1080p)
@EnduranceRoom you ain't kidding I've heard from multiple people now he has done that too... well not surprised from a Master Mason art of deception hahaha 😆 🤣
Hm.... the larger one (25L) seems very similar to the jaakari S, but 100€ more expensive. It does come with folding pockets and padding on the back/shoulder straps, but said pockets and padding can be added to the jaakari S. Other than that, very similar packs. Even the top loading opening is the same. I will skip this one
When going by RRPs the Kahakka 25L is 70 euros more expensive than the Jääkäri S, but you get a LOT of added functionality for that money: proper padded and contoured shoulder straps, a sternum strap, a 50 mm waist belt, a proper three dimensional zippered lid pouch, sewn-on expandable side pouches, two compression straps per side, proper back support/padding etc. Tweaking a Jääkäri S to match the functionality and carry comfort of the Kahakka 25L would cost a lot more than the price difference here, and the end result would be quite a contraption as opposed to the sleek form of the Kahakka.
Sorry, I don’t see the point. You give up a lot of flexibility by not having multiple adjacent rows of webbing, which I noticed on the Hatka already. Savotta seems to be drifting towards weaker fabrics (500D on Hatka and Askare instead of 1000D) and less flexibility. Just my opinion. Glad the older, indestructible stuff (Jääkäri) is still available.
No worries. These are extremely flexible. I tried to relay that as best as I could. The 500d is used for comfort (on back) and flexibility (sides of lid). All structural stuff is 1000D. On the HATKA and ASKARE, they are small volume packs and 500d is more than sufficient, adding comfort and reducing weight. I am glad the Jääkäri lineup is still available as well. These are different and they all have their strengths.
@@EnduranceRoom Yep, the majority of the packs is 1000D Cordura to withstand the horrors of carrying stuff like MG ammo cans, e-tools etc. 500D is only used on the back pad compartments outer side (against your body) and the sides of the folding top/lid to make it bit less clunky to fold and roll. Flexibility is still going strong, but we really wanted to make packs which are "good to go" out of the box, unlike the Jääkäri S for example which requires you to go shopping for a bunch of extra pouches, padding, sternum straps etc. to get it up and running properly. You can still add two of our 4L side pouches to the front of the pack, and use the side compression straps to attach pouches/bags "beavertail style", so there's really a lot you can do with these to tweak them if needed.
@@Savotta They are very good to go. Thanks so much for jumping in on these and offering some insight. I think it may take a little time for some to see the potential here, but they will come around.
PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT IT'S A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY TO BUY A 15L PACK. YOU CAN BASICALLY PUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF GEAR IN YOUR FRONT PANTS POCKET.....
Both packs available now at www.SAVOTTA.fi and VARUSTELEKA
www.varusteleka.com/en/product/savotta-kahakka-15l-combat-pack/79099
www.varusteleka.com/en/product/savotta-kahakka-25l-combat-pack/79105
I do, however, wish you would’ve shown us how it zips down the front of it to see how much it opens up because that’s one of the things about savotta that I don’t like. Is that packs don’t zip down so you can access them from the side of the front.
@@Timberbeartrail There are no side zippers on these packs, top access only, clean and easy.
We want to give you extra bonus points for attaching the sleeping pad vertically on the front of the pack with the elastic cord, this is a great way to carry it. Sleeping pads are so light that they don't mess with the balance of the pack, and vertically carried the pack stays narrow and the underside free for stuff like hip packs or belt worn pouches. We highly endorse this method, 5/5.
Thank you! I saw photos of you guys using this method and tried it out. Moving through the trees confirmed it. I can’t think of any other packs I have used that facilitate this style. Really excellent.
With external frame packs back in the day, we got used to strapping those huge old timey tents to the top portion of the frame, and the foam mat underneath the pack. I remember in the 80s trying to figure out a way to strap those bulky items vertically, but the hardware just wasn't there. And I carried the Savotta flagship 906... Thank God for modern packs that have options!
@EnduranceRoom phenomenal review, caused me to get one. My wallet curses you though 😂
Wow so does he get discount hehehehee
You look like a kid at Christmas going over those bags 👌 those side pouches are a fantastic design! Excellent work savotta and excellent review video sir 👍👍👍
Thank you for showing some more ways to utilize the bags. I ordered a 15 and 25 for work and leisure and I’m excited for them. Love the content on your channel and have subscribed. Cheers!
Thanks for the review on the 2 Kahakka packs. I was enthusiastic after watching Tim Keys's initial video on the 25-liter Kahakka pack several days ago. This video confirms that the Askare 7-liter hip pack and the 25-liter Kahakka pack are now at the top of my *"Next Outdoors Thing To Purchase List."*
Also, thanks for responding to several of the questions that I posed to Tim Keys.
For an extended trip I can see piggybacking my 12-liter Hatka day pack onto the back of the 25-liter Kahakka pack. If one chose to wear the 7-liter Askare hip pack, then a lot of the weight from the Kahakka/Hatka combo would ride comfortably on ones hips.
Glad to help. Your XL pouch would work on the back of either of these. The KAHAKKA + HATKA + ASKARE combo would be very versatile.
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I'll be in Finland this year. Enough said :)
That 25L pack looks awesome!!
Thank you so much for the love Jess, you're a really good dude
No problem, Brother. Happy to help. Cheers 🤝
I instantly ordered this Beauty in a heartbeat! It’s my 4th Savotta Backpack, and I love the 3 I own already to death! I can’t wait to get the Kahakka 25l in my grabby hands! 😊
Really like the 25 L , I've been dreaming about a Savotta pack for several years. Good video.🔥
Thank you! Their outdoor gear is legendary.
HOLY POWERS of PISS!
A pack with real pockets, I hate that mesh crap - catches on 'everything' and even a 1 litre bottle hardly hangs in on smaller ones, especially if you need to bolt or are in a reasonable water current... (actually Two packs! )
FILTHY AS MATE.
( The poms made a good burgen a little bigger than the 25 you have here but, it was heavy, no water resistance, no pockets and few anchor points which are now - 'antiquated'! )
SO, finally a no bullshit bombproof Bergen fit for modern times and modern equipment...
NO - Two of em'. Shiiit!
Has anyone noticed you can fit small shit in a big pocket, but you can't fit big shit in a small pocket.
Jess... You LEGEND mate.💜👍
Universal Sovereign Citizen
Thank you for a lovely review, specially the pack comparisons.
Thank you for the review, jealous that you got the packs sent to you! Always enjoy watching your videos
At the moment i got the news mail from Savotta about the pack i was sure you gotta throw out a video and here it is nice!
Thanks for showing all the bits and pieces, a lovely and well thought out piece of equipment... but at this point i cant justify buying another pack... already have 3 from Savotta x)
@EnduranceRoom This is one of the most in depth and enjoyable gear reviews I’ve ever watched. You clearly explain everything with a positive attitude and have earned another subscriber today!
@@Stracker308 Thank you!
Best overwiew for those two great little backpack! Thanks for your job..
@@blackwolflife Thank you 🤝
PU lining for water resistance: thanks for mentioning it. the website description didnt mention it.
and i was wondering about the water resistance of pure cordura...
Great reviews mate. Saw Tim's review too, very clear explanations too. The pack is great for customisation. Cheers from Australia.
Hey brother, appreciate it. Tim is a good dude. Agreed on the pack, great for customizing. Cheers
↟↟Hey Jess🙌🏻
Another awesome stuff from Savotta & another great review form You👍🏻
I don't have time to watch all the videos yet, because I'm busy with my building project in the Forest right now, which takes a lot of time and effort, but I'll definitely watch it later..
Take care Brother ✊🏻🐺🐾
Cheers
Hey Alex! Thanks Brother. 🤝
No worries at all. I know how it goes. Looking forward to seeing what you have been working on! Cheers Bro 🌲
Awesome review Jess. You're so giddy about savotta haha I feel you, they rock. Ever since I bought my jaakari m I've been hooked. The quality is unmatched. I'm pretty interested in the 25 L. Awesome products from savotta. Thanks again. And it's good to hear from you.
Imagine if they made a jaakari m with those HUGE side pockets. That would be heavenly.
Thanks, Kyle! The side pockets are definitely the business. Adds a ton of flexibility in loading. So does shock cord. The Finnish shock cord is the best I have seen. It’s a really nice way to do a simple mod for not a lot of money that will significantly increase carrying options.
I like the 25L Kahakka, I think because of the larger volume. But both nice packs. Thanks for the video, Jess. 👍🏻
Thanks Jeff. If I had to pick between the two, that’s probably the one I would recommend for the woods. Both are really nice though.
I bought the Kahakka 15 l pack. Mighty fine pack. My father used to carry a leather satchel in Finland and I am thinking he would have loved this pack. So to carry on the Karjala tradition there was no other choice for me but to stay with my roots. There are so many options here for carrying more gear that I could do an overnighter with this pack. From Kuolemanjärvi to Pyssysalo, from my fathers place to my mother's I have to carry the tradition on.
The bigger the 25 L one that set up, you have that really blends in with itself very nicely
Thank you!
I'm liking that 25L model. I'd prefer ti to be 30-35 liters. the outer pocket are perfect.
It is 31 Liters with the side pockets (3.1L each) with plenty of room for expansion as needed. Word on the street is there will be 2 larger packs this winter, a 40L and a 60L
@@EnduranceRoom I just ordered one, with the two outer 4L pouches to add to the rear. Got them all cheaper through Varusteleka.
The 25 is a great 'never comin' back-pack'.
The large side pockets and zipper pocket make the difference.
Certainly two rugged packs that are designed exceptionally well for longevity.
Cheers Jess.
Universal Sovereign Citizen
Thank you! Indeed our "special sauce" is the sense of seriousness when it comes to military gear, we aren't making the most fancy, fast and special type of gear for that 0,01% of hyper speed door kickers. We make serious, sensible gear for the 99% of users, with an emphasis on ease of use and reliability in the sort of environments we've got over here. The Finnish Defence Forces commonly use gear made by us for decades before they are too far gone for repairs.
Thanks Brother. You are spot on, as usual. The side pockets are absolutely incredible. Such a simple, yet highly effective/efficient idea.
Cheers my friend. 🤝
Ya know, thanks to you, about 6 months ago I bought a jakkari S, and thought it is the last pack I could ever want, or need (i like simple).. but now!? These!?! Ugh.. those side pockets are what I thought the jakkari could use.
I haven’t made any videos on the S, as I don’t own one. Nonetheless, the 4L side pouches are a great addition to it. So is a beaver tail or shock cord.
@EnduranceRoom right, you just turned me on to savotta!! Have enjoyed all your vids.
@@jwgbmp40 Ah, gotcha! Glad to hear it.
They look good Jess . Good review. Have a great day
Thanks John. You too, brother.
Good Morning Jess ..
👍👍👍 .. another Great one. I think that Savotta has really hit the Sweet Spot with these two packs 😊.
Not taking anything from the larger 25 litre, it is nice to see a Day Pack with a decently-sized pair of Side Pockets that can do an honest day's work and more and not get in the away when not needed. Not those gossamer 'mesh' 'unmentionables' (substitute with your own adjective 😁) which are the mode at the moment. Even better, a very 'clean' base that can be accessorised to suit every which way but loose.
I would love to .. but the pockets are not deep enough 😟. A positive though, my Savotta Jääkäri S Jäger can continue getting my undivided attention 😊.
Thanks for the Share, my Friend and until the next, take care .. Tommy
Hey Tommy, Thank you! Oh man, they definitely cracked into something good with these. The pleated pocket is brilliant. From what I have heard, they wanted an all in one pack, no accessories needed, but easy enough to add on to whenever necessary. The G hooks are interesting. Little slower than SR buckles, but certainly handy for attaching stuff.
Have a good one! 🤝
I didn't even know how much I needed those. Thanks!!
Love it 2 great packs thanks for review😊
I want to see a vid from you how you pack you’r packs and some of you’r gear, have a good time!
I have made quite a few loadout videos, but will do one in near future with the 25L
@@EnduranceRoom thank you so much i Will 100% look on it! I love you’r chanel have a good one!
First time I've heard about this brand. It looks very interesting I'll need to do a bit more research
Man those savotta packs look soooo good 😮💨🔥
Great run down. I've got a 25L one and an askare on the way. Pretty stoked. Have you got any advice on a good length of bungee cord to use in the webbing? Also, is it the same as paracord where you just cut and burn it to seal it?
Thanks! That’s really cool. Bungee cord, I would run pretty long, it’s probably 6 or 7 feet, or 2 meters. I keep it long enough I can use it for my sleeping pad. Anything smaller like a jacket or tarp will easily cinch down with that also. If you are ordering it, I would grab like 5-6 meters of Finnish shock cord and a handful of their cord locks (it’s the best). Yes, burn to seal after cutting to length. Just run it and figure out your length before you cut it. It’s easy to do, just take time and measure up with your gear before you cut.
@@EnduranceRoom yeah sweet! I got 4m bungee from Varusteleka and 4 cord locks, sounds like it'll be enough!
A while back I bought a Mystery Ranch ruck about the same size as that 25L model. The Mystery Ranch is a little cheaper but I think I'd prefer that Savotta. Damn it! 🤣 Nice review, very sweet they sent them to you, the 25L is over $200! You're going to cost me a fortune!😂
That was just a preview im sure review comes later.
Perhaps not.
If something lasts 3-5 times longer than something even half the price then the investment has saved you more than money.
But ultimately we buy the best we can afford...
(Your obviously smart cause you clearly know that.)
Keep savin' $!
👍
Cheers mate, awesome review!
The 15L one is allready on the way to me! :)
Rock on dude, Rich
Hey Rich! Thank you very much. Glad to hear you are picking up the 15L. You are going to love it. Perfect day pack.
Cheers, Brother
@@EnduranceRoom Thank You Bro, I'm sure I will! :)
Great review Jess. Both look like winners for sure. I saw the the 25l is available at Varusteleka now but not the 15l, yet. I was watching Tim's video and asked about whether either or both could be run with the askare underneath and he sent me to you. Nice!
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Thanks Nate. Tim is a good dude. The 15L is available. It is a perfect pairing with ASKARE. Will post some pics.
Great review Jess! Thanks for sharing! My friend😎
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Liking the 25L, as I've already got the Hatka + 4L side pouch (and way too many others, lol) so it would feel like doubling up with the 15L version.
Thanks for the Review.. I would liked to see the Hatka attached to the front of the KAHAKKA 15L..
I will post something with the 15L and ASKARE soon. In the video at 1:44 there is a photo of the 15 with a 6L side pouch on it, which is very similar in size to ASKARE.
@@EnduranceRoomsaw that that’s an indicator but unfortunately I still can’t image how much of the 15L bag will be covered by the hatka Which is fully loaded so 10-12L
@@m3th0dm1n I posted some pics. Check my community tab.
@@m3th0dm1n I am sorry. I had ASKARE on my mind. HATKA will fill it up as it has pretty much the same overall dimension, but is a bit thinner. The compression straps will snug it down as well. I will post a pic when I get some time.
I got the 202 and xl . Cant go wrong with savotta
Great video! Had a question can you attach these to different bags?? For example to a 5.11 rush bags alongest it has the right tier system??
@@Notorious.Torrez5024 Thank you! It would be possible, but probably not ideal. Between the 2, the 15L would be best for something like that. I really like the HATKA 12L for attaching to other packs. It is very light (only 1lb) and is very useful. For mounting as a second pack, it is well worth taking a look at.
Cool review, can you fit/attach the Askare to the Kahakka 15?
Yes you can. It rides underneath it on your waist very well though. Highly recommend the ASKARE + 15L combo
Super cool thees Backpacks, thank you for the video.
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Does the 64oz Klean Kanteen fit in the side pocket of the 15l backpack?
Yes it does. Great packs.
I have a question.... If your quite a big guy does the 15 look a bit unusually small on its own... Would 25 be more in scale ...if that makes sense?...ps I also own the Jääkäri M so maybe the 25 is too close to that ...your thoughts ?....great review btw
@@norseman1137 Thank you. It is quite a capable little pack. Great for short trips to carry a few essentials and some tools. I do prefer the 25 between the two, as it can handle similar small loads as the 15, but also larger loads. Size wise, the 25 is probably going to be a better fit for you. It is similar, but different to the Jääkäri M, The Kahakka is a little lighter and very flexible. The M is better suited for heavier loads (especially if using the aluminum frame).
@@EnduranceRoom that's great advice thank you for your response 🙏
I am looking for a daypack to attach to the outside of my Jaakari L, with the intent to leave the main pack at camp before climbing up to the summit. Which small daypack would you recommend to attach to my Jaakari? The Hatka, or the Kahakka 15L?
@@ssito3515 I would go with the HATKA or the ASKARE hip pack. Either would work. More volume in the HATKA, but there is plenty of room in ASKARE for essentials. Both can be paired up very effectively as well. You could run the HATKA on the back and the ASKARE inside of the JÄÄKÄRI L or vice versa. Lot of options.
Hey jess, really nice review! Can you make a video with a load out for a overnighter ore dayhike with these packs? I am curious.
Thank you! I will try and film a loadout video with them when I can. Cheers
Thank you. That would be great😊@@EnduranceRoom
Prolly getting the 25L just for them side pockets lol those things swallow up gear!!
You will love it. Really awesome packs.
Such an ingenious solution to the age old problem: side pouches or not? Molle was ok but a bit of a hassle. I preferred Berghaus's zipper attachment. May have to retire my Centurion now, the big Kahakka looks like a major improvement.
@@trikyy7238 It’s absolutely awesome.
Man those look Great! I especially like the 15L as It'd be Perfect for my Day outings. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Brother. They are super nice. The 15 is a perfect lightweight pack. Pockets add a ridiculous amount of flexibility.
Thanks a lot for the in depth video 💪
If I may ask?;
Can one attach the 15l to the 25l like you did in the other video with the smaller packs?
And what are the dimensions of the velcro pad on top to attach patches on the 25l?
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Thanks! The packs are both really nice. You could attach them together if you had to, but I don’t think that would be optimal. The HATKA, ASKARE or 1 or 2 side pouches would be a better fit on the back. The velcro panel is same size as on HATKA, about 3.5” x 6”
@@EnduranceRoom thank you greatly for both the advice and measurements 🙏💪❤️
I bet a Hooks Micro Bucksaw would fit Great in one of those ! Nice packs ! Nice job Buddyman!
Yes indeed! Thanks Brother
Hello! Thanks for a very informative video! I have a question that you've probably already been asked. I have a Keith titanium canteen mess kit (1100 ml). I see that the bottle fits without problems in the side pockets but is there enough space for the cup and bottle in the side pocket of the Kahaka 15? Greetings from Sweden
Thank you! It should fit fine. The way the pockets are designed make the capable of carrying quite a wide variety of gear. Savotta is very good at answering questions on their gear. If you send them a message, I am sure they would be able to give a definite answer. Cheers
@@EnduranceRoom Thanks for getting back to me! Cheers!
Well done introduction video. There are no videos about these backpacks yet and you did a really good presentation of the backpacks. I don't know if they would be suitable for my own use. Something about those backpacks seems like they are not pleasant. I just can't really say why. I have Savotta products and backpacks. They've been good.
Thank you. I found them both to be quite comfortable, especially after adjusting shoulder straps to my frame. Sternum strap on both, waist strap on 25. The only thing I would say, is that the packs have a flat back, rather than any kind of ventilation like on the Jääkäri M. You can adjust the pack to loosen up and give your back some air, with the bottom of the pack resting on hips. It is currently in 90s here and this works for me. I really like them both.
@@EnduranceRoom Thanks for the introduction and information👍
I’ve just realised, despite being subscribed for a long time, I haven’t had any notifications for a couple of months!☹️ It’s good to have you back, plus I have a glut of your videos to watch.🤔😁👍
On another note, is that Belgian camouflage on your shirt, it looks similar, but not quite; or some former Belgian/African country?🤔
Oh man... yeah, I have noticed weird things with the numbers for awhile. My count goes down when I put something out quite often, then some new people will come in and it will go up a bit.
The camo is old school USMC frog skin, aka duck hunter. Really nice for a variety of conditions, plus the fabric is light, so great for summer.
Nice backpacks brother. You are lucky your tall. There bigger pack there. Is 19 inches tall. So short guy me. Doesn't work. One of the only packs, military style. I could find. To fit with a battle belt. Is the short, but good size. Russian 6sh117. The only problem is. They only make it. In digital flora. Not atac fg. Great video man. Cheers 🍻
Thanks brother. That pack is pretty sweet. If you want to mix up the camo on it, maybe try adding some skrim through the webbing. You could give it an atacs vibe, with texture.
I ordered the 15L
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If that beard gets any more epic its going to need its own channel
Hey, great Video, thx! I see you punching in into the video quite often. The Resolution looks a bit coarse in these cases. If your Camera supports 4k, it might be an Option as to have more resolution to work with :) In the End you can still export as 1080p
Thank you! Man, I appreciate that. I just checked my settings and yes, it will film 4k. 🤝
@@EnduranceRoom De nada! ☺️ Glad I might be of help. There are - as with most everything - some downsides:
- Larger Filesize (up to 4 Times as much)
- Higher Load on the Workstation you use for Cutting (but most modern PC's handle it well.)
- Some Cameras use more power when recording in 4k and might overheat easier
As well as all the implications that come with the facts stated above, like i.e. shorter recording times or more money for larger SD cards, longer Copy / Transfer Times, taking up quite a lot more local Disk Space etc. etc.
In case that's to annoying, 2K might be a good tradeoff (roughly 2x 1080p)
These are super sweet, kinda makes me think Dave Canterbury knew about these and copied them like everything else lol!!!✊️🔥✌️💚
😂 Oh yeah.... I know exactly what happened there. Sticky Fingers
@EnduranceRoom you ain't kidding I've heard from multiple people now he has done that too... well not surprised from a Master Mason art of deception hahaha 😆 🤣
AWESOME VIDEO!
Thanks! 🤝
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Nice!
God dammit I just bought the TST CP 15 which I thought I loved, but mannnn that 15L looks sweet.
The CP15 is awesome. The clam shell style opening allowing access to everything is pretty slick.
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Will either of these fix to the Jaakari L?
You could mount either....
but I would recommend either HATKA or ASKARE for something like that.
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Thx for showing each pack.
Thinking my Geardo(rhymes w/ weirdo) will be on again soon.
Liking the 15L a lot.
Thanks! Yes, the 15L is awesome.
Hm.... the larger one (25L) seems very similar to the jaakari S, but 100€ more expensive. It does come with folding pockets and padding on the back/shoulder straps, but said pockets and padding can be added to the jaakari S. Other than that, very similar packs. Even the top loading opening is the same. I will skip this one
The 15L is similar in size to S, the 25L to M. All of them are different and each have their strengths. Nonetheless, use what works for you. 👍
When going by RRPs the Kahakka 25L is 70 euros more expensive than the Jääkäri S, but you get a LOT of added functionality for that money: proper padded and contoured shoulder straps, a sternum strap, a 50 mm waist belt, a proper three dimensional zippered lid pouch, sewn-on expandable side pouches, two compression straps per side, proper back support/padding etc.
Tweaking a Jääkäri S to match the functionality and carry comfort of the Kahakka 25L would cost a lot more than the price difference here, and the end result would be quite a contraption as opposed to the sleek form of the Kahakka.
Sorry, I don’t see the point. You give up a lot of flexibility by not having multiple adjacent rows of webbing, which I noticed on the Hatka already.
Savotta seems to be drifting towards weaker fabrics (500D on Hatka and Askare instead of 1000D) and less flexibility. Just my opinion.
Glad the older, indestructible stuff (Jääkäri) is still available.
No worries. These are extremely flexible. I tried to relay that as best as I could.
The 500d is used for comfort (on back) and flexibility (sides of lid). All structural stuff is 1000D.
On the HATKA and ASKARE, they are small volume packs and 500d is more than sufficient, adding comfort and reducing weight.
I am glad the Jääkäri lineup is still available as well. These are different and they all have their strengths.
@@EnduranceRoom Yep, the majority of the packs is 1000D Cordura to withstand the horrors of carrying stuff like MG ammo cans, e-tools etc. 500D is only used on the back pad compartments outer side (against your body) and the sides of the folding top/lid to make it bit less clunky to fold and roll.
Flexibility is still going strong, but we really wanted to make packs which are "good to go" out of the box, unlike the Jääkäri S for example which requires you to go shopping for a bunch of extra pouches, padding, sternum straps etc. to get it up and running properly. You can still add two of our 4L side pouches to the front of the pack, and use the side compression straps to attach pouches/bags "beavertail style", so there's really a lot you can do with these to tweak them if needed.
@@Savotta They are very good to go. Thanks so much for jumping in on these and offering some insight. I think it may take a little time for some to see the potential here, but they will come around.
PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT IT'S A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY TO BUY A 15L PACK.
YOU CAN BASICALLY PUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF GEAR IN YOUR FRONT PANTS POCKET.....
@@user-zi5lx6lx5k That would look pretty interesting.
I'll get a Savotta pack once I can afford one without having to sell a kidney or a lung ;-)