Facts!? When he talks about gohan like that? Nah that’s foul af, it goes piccolo, vegeta, gohan… fym putting gohan at the bottom tf also kid gohan is 50% of gothenks aka coolest looking character of all time
Love Menzter for teaching the importance of warming up, keeping a journal, controlling the weight, making every set count and working the negative. It’s definitely brought my fitness game up.
to me, warming up is light dynamic stretching to make sure nothing's messed up, then one set with as super-light weight to make sure my form is feeling right
It’s funny how dr Mike shits on mentzer and his 1 set to absolute failure protocol, but we still have DORIAN YATES WHO STILL CARRIES THIS PROTOCOL. Dr Mike even said you can get the same effects from many sets as you can by going 1 set to failure. So why do many sets over 1 set? If you’re achieving the same results, then surely less is more.
I think bc Mike was an objectivist the dogmatism of his positions is almost sought after in an industry where you can hear 10 different perspectives and someone resolve the differences by saying “do what works for you”. To hear him speak with such certainty and in a very articulate matter is pretty unique to the realm of body building
Mentzer was a scam artist just trying to make a buck off clients who did not want to work hard or often. He used high volume when building his physique.
If you're reading this Mike, your RP Hypertrophy app just tried to kill me. I didn't get sore in week 1 and told the app to do better next time--it took that shit personally. Today (day 1 of week 2) it cosplayed as the Iron Sheik and made me humble. DOMS incoming...
@@3h0wn3dm8 please keep in mind that the ability to reason logically is a rare gift not bestowed on everyone and even then people surprise you every day....not in a positive way
I run anywhere from 2-10 miles a week and I will say my veins have gotten a lot bigger and are all more visible with zero pump. The last time I went to the doctor, they took my heart rate and they looked at me almost surprised and said "do you work out a lot?" So I think even just a little bit of running is really good, real runners would laugh at how much I run
I wasn't even aware of Mentzer, until another channel advocated his training methods. Now it seems like everyone is talking about Mentzer. The internet is funny like that. But I decided to try HIT, just to see what's up. And I quickly realized how laid-back my normal training was. That helped put things in perspective.
Because of my work and disability, I can go to gym only once per week. So I am exercising kind of like Mike Mentzer. I am doing rest-pauses, to failure then 15 breaths of break and to failure again, until I can't do no more reps. But I am only doing it with separation exercises. For the ones with compound movement, I am doing normal rep ranges and amount of sets. I am also going slow on positive and negative movement, with a bit of pause on contraction. I just started to train with this method, after a long break from gym, so I hope that it will work
Low volume made me strong and small. More sets and more frequency is what finally made my arms grow after years of power lifting. I do 1 compound and 1 isolation exercise twice a week. (Row + curls) and then (pulldown + curls). Similar routine for triceps. For forearms i do wrist curls 2x a week and reverse curls 1x a week. So 12 sets biceps, 12 sets triceps, 9 sets forearms a week. They are blowing up 😊
After a long time of being disappointed by myself for not being able to lift as heavy as I wished for and of course not seeing much results in the mirror I got down a little bit in weights and doing more reps and sets. I got stronger and yes I grew more. I prefer a quite easy workout with not so many different exercises. For example, Dumbbell deadlifts, bench presses on slightly incline shrugs, and for arms skull crushers and hammer curls. I do the heavy ones with a barbell one or two times a week
Wait. If you do wrist curls 2x and reverse curls, thats 3 sets in total. Where did the 9 sets for forearms come from? I would also like to see your program, as I find myself being strong and small also.
Same here. I did low volume, low-medium frequency for a while and while i did get really strong, hypertrophy was nonexistent until i took a little weight off and increased my volume and frequency. I feel sorry for all the naive beginners out there who will miss out on a lot of gains because they fell for the MM/HIT tropes. That being said, HIT and low frequency can absolutely yield results as well...particularly in people who are experienced lifters and already have a considerable amount of muscle mass 👍
Absolutely pro list. Only missing Gotenks who is both the most underutilized character and has the most unique creative techniques. If Dr. Mike was a Saiyan, his Ki attacks would be silly and ridiculous like Gotenks.
The Mentzer resurgence is because its attractive in that one set to failure is 1) fast, no giant workouts and 2) fun as shit if you have the right mindset. Granted, he wasn't right and studies show that, but its not like it will NOT grow you, so people see results which means its not easily disprovable at the individual level. Ultimately anything that is the One True Secret that is also a shortcut will be popular.
I train using HIT principles, and it works beautifully within my overall fitness regimen. It’s helped me gain strength and some mass in my 50’s, but my focus is a balanced approach of strength, endurance, and mobility. If I were all about hypertrophy (especially at a competitive level), I have doubts that it would outperform conventional protocols.
That 1 set will beat your nervous system up more than your entire volume training. It isn't a shortcut if you do it properly. It's blood and guts for a reason.
I think the Mike Mentzer and HIT resurgence is mostly because people appreciate his ability to articulate a more seemingly scientific approach to bro science back in the day. I myself tried low volume high intensity training and quickly realized that its implications are that after a phase of high volume training, the body may respond very well to reduced volume giving short term results, but after adapting to low volume, it ends up not being enough to stimulate growth for many body parts (shoulders, arms, chest, lats, quads, calves), which goes against the whole philosophy of one set to failure if more sets are required. Good concept but factoring in athleticism and how it changes depending on physical activity, you really can't just generalize one set to failure as the end all be all for any muscle group.
I personally just do 2 sets to failure instead of one on those specific body parts you've mentioned and it always ended up being enough for me. If it doesn't work for you then keep trying until you find what works for you! We are not the same and don't have to be so do what's good for you .
@@Matt_Alaric What is the point of this comment??? I get it, I'm wrong, but why? Where is your opinion and experience? Help me understand why you need to state the obvious that my comment is not evidence or science, but it was never stated as such either. I will wait for your condescending reply... Cancel Reply
Mike Menzters approach appeals to 2 types of people: 1. Those who want to get in and out of the gym in under 45 mins, and not having to go 3,4 5 times a week (in short those short on free time) and 2. People who love to hammer their muscles into oblivion and not have to worry about having enough time to recover. That said, the mental fortitude needed to do that on so few sets takes a certain type of person. I tried it, it wasn't for me, RP app all the way and getting results on just 3 full body workouts per week
The Mentzer resurgence is part of a larger cultural zeitgeist of disbelief in the contemporary knowledge of academics, preferring to believe that singular individuals have the "real" answers. It's the same thing in many areas these days...
@@kpsiex If someone dedicates years of their life for a doctorate in a field, I believe their authority trumps mine in said field. That doesn't mean that I should blindly believe everything they say, but it does mean that their opinion probably holds more weight than mine.
Well, you could blame what is going on by the general abuse and conning occurring throughout all structures of society, not just academics, but it extends into politics as well. You do know we are living in a time where politicians have connections to a certain man who had a certain island and was convicted of SA against children, no? You also know that academics has found it okay to teach children that gender is something that is on a spectrum and allows men dressed as women to read children's stories to said children. This is supported by the same politicians who I was initially writing about, not to mention, they control a lot of those academic structures. So yeah, excuse us for being a little subjective of what we have to accept as fact.
I have my own theory on this ,people are noticing that corporations and marketers have influence over academia ,paying for results or over marketing for certain studies. Mike mentzer sums a lot of this ,because Arnold was a selling machine ,for you to train six times a week ,2 hours every day you gonna sell pré workouts ,pos work outs ,protein shakes ,gym memberships ,magazines of men health , supplements . With mentzer you don't need pre workouts to go 2 or 3 times a week in the gym ,only rest .you don't need pos work-out for recovery only rest . Little to no equipment, so just a home gym will do the job ( his best exercise for arms was dips). For people who want to lose weight he told them to just walk more . How you going to sell a high speed treadmill like this . Mentzer kept simple and cheap and this is just not good for business .
I started training one year ago. I workout at planet fitness using all machines and some dumbbells. I do Mike Mentzers workout routine you can find on UA-cam. I started doing upper lower 4 days out the week. Then moved to 2-3 days. Eventually I moved it to chest triceps then legs then back shoulder biceps. As you get stronger you need more rest. I also used to superset everything, now I just do one set of every exercise because recovery was taking longer. I was 150lbs last year and as of today I’m 178lbs. I’ve also gotten leaner so the majority of that has to have been muscle. Heavy Duty all the way! Looking at 190-195 hopefully in the next year!
That's what's called newbie gains, absolutely nothing to do with mike mentzer, As a newbie any stimulus will make you grow, but the more advanced you get you need more intensity , load & volume to stimulate growth. Your body only grows as a last resort when it has no other option
@@warrenchu5752 dorian didn't train anything ilike what mentzer advocated, His back day was 8 exercises in total & his leg days were 7 exercises, Apart from 1 top set they trained nothing alike
I think the biggest thing about the HIT/Mike Mentzer resurgence is time spent vs gains; as opposed to time *passing* vs gains. If you only have a 2 hour window per week to work out, failure training is probably going to do better for you, because you'll actually be able to stimulate every muscle group in 2 hours to a decent level.. And it doesn't matter if recovery time is longer if you're not working out for another 7 days, anyway.
I was a big fan of Max not very long ago because of his personality, but as I started consuming more fitness content I came to be weary of his affinity for Mike Mentzer's extremely low-volume training philosophy and I haven't watched him very much in a while. I was expecting this video to be a lot more critical of Max, but I was pleasantly surprised when I heard him emphasizing the stretch. Great video, I might find myself watching more Max content now, thank you very much
I originally bounced off of fitness as a whole, since the attitudes most people have towards it didn't really resonate with me. Like I follow Arnold on twitter, and it's great to see all the inspiration and encouragement he's dishing out, but that doesn't really do anything for me. Seeing Mentzer, on the other hand, really resonated with me, because he is a MASSIVE turbonerd. He was heavily into Objectivism, which would've gotten him shoved into lockers if he didn't have one of the best physiques of his era. Its fascinating to see how ahead of his time he was, and learning what he was wrong about and why he was wrong about it really helps that information stick. Furthermore, as someone who is not in good shape, it's very tempting to do way too much in the gym as some sort of penance or something, but his extremely low volume philosophy helps to disperse that anxiety that I haven't done enough that day. He's easily one of my favorite bodybuilders, but I don't hold up as some kinda god. Those mentzer videos that have been popping up are a good gateway to channels of people who know wtf they're on about, and I feel like they promote the mindset of actually following the science and taking a measured approach to the gym.
Obviously some people overtrain. The increased recovery is good for them. Obviously some people undertrain. The increased intensity is good for them. May not be optimal, but it makes sense why a lot of folks get results.
max taylors style is just a modernization of mike mentzer. The only flaws that can be found with mentzer are due to knowledge that came about after his death. He took us in a different direction, away from feel and 7 days a week 20 sets of arms a day to systemic, scientific growth. Beautiful
This DBZ breakdown is like Dr. Mike was reading my mind. Love it! Now my all time favorite fitness content creator. I made my wife and kids watch it. Lol
I have a question: how you do not essentially go to failure if you’re trying to beat your reps from the week prior? Assuming that to beat those reps you need to push pretty hard
Oh good question - because if your workout is effective, you get stronger (and hopefully bigger) which will shift your failure point. This is why progressive overload is either adding more reps or adding more weight. If you get stronger you can do more reps without going to failure, but yes, ideally beat your prev reps and go to new failure or add more weight and go to new failure. Dont forget to eat right and allow enough time for recovery to get more gains :)
You are saying it's basically a wash, then why is that you vehemently disagree. It clearly works. Mike had an amazing physique. Dorian Yates also had an amazing physique. It definitely works for strength. It's put 60 pounds on my deadlift(double overhand, no hook grip, raw after recovering from late onset Type 1 Diabetes(diagnosis at age 35) in the matter of 6 weeks. Prior to that. I couldn't make gains doing the type of exercise that you speak of being better. Currently 37. Drug free(not even trt). By the way, the controlled eccentric is definitely part of Mentzers training method. His suggestion is 3 count concentric and a 4 count on the eccentric, specifically. I completely agree with your method as well, by the way. But High intensity is absolutely viable.
I’d say what made Mike mentzer so great for his time, was his use and understanding of basic exercise physiology and science. He applied it with the facts that they had at the time and made it important to understand the physiology before starting a training program. Also just his overall charisma and straight to the point philosophy is what I think makes mentzer such a talked about guy. His understanding of exercise tempo was on point, but with his “1 set” scenario definitely not ideal.
@@pauldavies7251 average or not he's the only bodybuilder who has been judged to have a perfect physique, which I believe is the point of going to the gym as a professional lifter, so "If" I was wanting to copy a bodybuilder I'd "probably" pick the only one who was judged perfect.
So I recently went back the gym and tried the one set to failure routine. I liked how it felt because 1 I'm not spending 2 ½ hours in the gym and 2 I actually felt sore afterward. Before I had to fulfill two roles in my job, I was going to the gym 4x a week and 2½ a session but because I was walking like 20-22 thousands steps I just didn't have the resiliency too go workout even on my days off. Basically I wanted to min max my workouts and the one set felt like it was working, but 3 weeks later I'm back to doing multiple sets to try and replicate that one set to failure routine.
Mike Mentzer was very ahead of his time in body building knowledge, was very well spoken, and got a perfect score in the Olympia... thats the big deal!!!
U dont understand why people are into mike mentzer!..but u jus gave this young man the best rating!!! For following mike mentzer he explained it all...jus keep it simple n inspiring like mentzer...and u too will b remembered years after ur dead n gone...love ur vids dr mike...
This dude trains surprisingly well. Props to him. Also Menzer had the gifts of drugs and genetics. So his under-training benefitted him but probably won’t benefit most people.
Certain muscle fibers aren't activated/stimulated until you reach failure. There is a SLIGHT benefit between 2 rir and 1 rir, between 1 rir and 0 rir, and between 0 rir and failure. That's with individual sets. Yes, you CAN get "similar" results with 1 set to failure vs 3/4 sets no to failure, but 1 set to failure saves time and fatigue vs 4 sets say 1-2 rir especially if the last set is to failure. But like i said, why the extra time and fatigue for similar results? I personally do 1-2 sets to failure or beyond per exercise no more than 6 sets for a muscle in a workout. Works wonders
this people be taking his words too serious all u really need is 3-5 good hard sets and ur good imo if u can do more than 5 sets the weight is too light
Bro you missed your calling as a stand up comedian, loving every one of the exercises and the look unironically asks why Mentzer/Yates style workouts are on the resurgence. I'll let you in on the secret: people like them because it's something new, it focuses on safety and control, and it works. There is more for sure, just think on the focus on performing the movements correctly that Mentzer has, he has it all in his books. Most people (including Max) make a mistake though. It's not about heavy weight (re iterated in Dorian Yate's Blood and Guts in intro) it's about high intensity contraction with as little force as possible through a full range of motion. Real simple shit brother, you can even train like that injured. Great vid, the banter with the crew is hilarious!
Mentzer was about more than just BodyBuilding. He wanted people to live a more rounded lifestyle and think critically about everything. That’s the attraction. Read a couple of his books.
It seems to me that the mike/dolan approach of training to failure works better for people who are natural. Failure and plenty of recovery is better than constant sets. To me it showed better results and same for others it seems.
I'll tell you what Mike Menzer was completely 100% correct when he said for your biceps lat pullovers with your palms up is best for biceps at least in my opinion, I did it yesterday and my biceps burned like never before!
I have the dbz/dbs characters on a sleeve from strongest to weakest, capped with Zen-o and piccolo, then kid gohan and vegita, followed by roshi, and endin with shenron as that head looks rad as a full hand tat.
3:47 I couldn’t help but question my ears. I love how he talks about his step tracker being Halloween themed, but then I’m hearing COD Zombies menu music? 😂 I guess it fits well enough
I think train to failure might reduce time under tension, thus reducing time in the gym. Its better for busy schedules. Arguably. No better for gains, but perhaps less time in gym
Idk about this Max guy, but I’ve done the typical volume methods over the last 8 years in my 20s, now in my thirties and started Mike Mentzers heavy duty method and my arms and lats have exploded and never been bigger.
It’s simple Dr.Mike, MM and DY took the complexities out of all this training information overload. Simple training done quickly and long rest in between, wash, rinse and repeat, especially for guys like us in their mid fifties that need to be careful with joints and ligaments. Warm up sets are crucial for HIT for obvious reasons but mind muscle connection is crucial. I like the young 70s dude in this video with his porn mustache ( would have loved the 70s porn background music 😂). Obviously exercise science is always expanding but a mix of both HIT and RP training done 30- to an hour infrequently has been a good mix for me personally and others I have talked to. The philosophy basically comes down to taking ALL the complexities out of the training and focusing on compound exercises for hypertrophy done quickly especially in a busy gym. YOGA (for me)is a huge component for balance and recovery with moderate fasted cardio on a machine or out in nature (best option). Love your Viking impersonations 😆
I trained like Mike Menzter (without knowing of him) growing up, i just hit everything once a week and annihilated all my muscles. It was fun and i definitely built a respectable natural physique. Even to this day i gravitate wanting to train like that more than hitting everything twice a week.. i will say tho i prob did over train with hitting everything once a week.
30-45 mins in a gym/3-4 times a week with full intensity will beat 1 hour or more in a gym/5-7 days in a week at any times, if you are natural ofc!! For enhanced people its all the same, you can train anyhow and you will grow
Mike Mentzer just had that fatherly coaching voice, I think that's the appeal. Also it's not a bad way to test your max limits and possibly rediscover some things.
@17:50 the whole train to failure thing, I've trained with a lot of world class powerlifters, and they NEVER went to "failure", would they do max effort? For sure, but RPE 9-10 for 1 rep doesn't necessarily mean "failure", because you can do additional singles afterwards. The strongest people in the world, whether it's powerlifting or strongman, pretty much never go to failure unless it's in a comp.
Mr. Mentzer is just too handsome and dope that even men feel attracted to him, and his training kinda works, you feel more masculine and gains some above average strength and you have a ton of free time. It may not be the most optimal training for muscle growth, but it gets the job done alrigth.
MM made his programs so that proper training would yield results for ALL trainees, rather than over training them on programs that works only for the upper end of the bell curve. MI is on that part of the spectrum, so it makes sense he favors that.
People like the mike stuff because it’s like a miracle drug workout regime like “oh so I don’t have to worry about all the weights and sets? I just have to do one set that’s so much faster and easier to manage”
I knew Dr. Mike was smart about exercising but my man is spitting straight FACTS about the DBZ characters. Impressive
Spittin facts, the only good Gohan is mystic Gohan. Once he dropped that potara his career was over😂
caught me off guard, had no idea dr mike was a FUCKIN NERD
Facts!? When he talks about gohan like that? Nah that’s foul af, it goes piccolo, vegeta, gohan… fym putting gohan at the bottom tf also kid gohan is 50% of gothenks aka coolest looking character of all time
He's a muscle nerd already @@tamas9402
Trunks >>> Gohan
Love Menzter for teaching the importance of warming up, keeping a journal, controlling the weight, making every set count and working the negative. It’s definitely brought my fitness game up.
warming up? 👎🏼. u should probably listen to more of de mikes videos
@@stensballe3683 Mike Menzter promoted warm up sets. Look up when he trained Marcus Reinhardt.
to me, warming up is light dynamic stretching to make sure nothing's messed up, then one set with as super-light weight to make sure my form is feeling right
That's what any good protocol should have though
It’s funny how dr Mike shits on mentzer and his 1 set to absolute failure protocol, but we still have DORIAN YATES WHO STILL CARRIES THIS PROTOCOL.
Dr Mike even said you can get the same effects from many sets as you can by going 1 set to failure.
So why do many sets over 1 set? If you’re achieving the same results, then surely less is more.
I think bc Mike was an objectivist the dogmatism of his positions is almost sought after in an industry where you can hear 10 different perspectives and someone resolve the differences by saying “do what works for you”. To hear him speak with such certainty and in a very articulate matter is pretty unique to the realm of body building
You summed it up perfectly. Wow.
Mentzer was a scam artist just trying to make a buck off clients who did not want to work hard or often. He used high volume when building his physique.
Yea wasn’t he a big Ayn Rand fan?
bro is the articulator
Well said , wanna write this essay for me ?
The thing with Mike Mentzer is mustaches are back in style and he is the undisputed king
Lol 😅 love it !!
This was the 1st of Dr. Mike’s critique videos that I’ve seen that was predominantly positive.
That´s beacuse Max knows his shit
If you're reading this Mike, your RP Hypertrophy app just tried to kill me. I didn't get sore in week 1 and told the app to do better next time--it took that shit personally. Today (day 1 of week 2) it cosplayed as the Iron Sheik and made me humble. DOMS incoming...
I could see that. The idea of an app trying to generate a workout without
Knowing what's going on in your body seems far fetched.
The app needs data, the longer you use it, the better it gets.
@@foxdogs1stthe best part is our brain has this thing called logic that you can use in tandem with the app!!
@@3h0wn3dm8 please keep in mind that the ability to reason logically is a rare gift not bestowed on everyone and even then people surprise you every day....not in a positive way
He didn't read it😔
The editing recently has been great, not too over the top, very smooth and well done. Keep it up
Nice try undercover Scott the video guy
I get the point about cardio not being as important for fat loss, but what if you want like a healthy heart? Or to extend your life?
This. Also, high rep lifting can be amazing cardio. So why not at LEAST have a few high rep days in your rotation to double up?
this is my main reason for getting some jogging in
I run anywhere from 2-10 miles a week and I will say my veins have gotten a lot bigger and are all more visible with zero pump. The last time I went to the doctor, they took my heart rate and they looked at me almost surprised and said "do you work out a lot?" So I think even just a little bit of running is really good, real runners would laugh at how much I run
If body building is your profession, then running isn't great, but most of us should not train like a body builder.
@@JasonTheOneAndOnlyjogging is for women (actually joking)
As, a beginner your advice is a godsend. Currently 3rd weeks at the gym and all your crtique videos help out a ton with form and everything. Thank you
it's been 4 months how's it been going
@@cmb8310for me it’s been pretty good 😂😂
@@cmb8310 he passed away sadly
@@blakeslide6919 cap
@@cmb8310 its true im his dad
I wasn't even aware of Mentzer, until another channel advocated his training methods. Now it seems like everyone is talking about Mentzer. The internet is funny like that. But I decided to try HIT, just to see what's up. And I quickly realized how laid-back my normal training was. That helped put things in perspective.
Damn I just noticed RP got almost 1Mln subscribers! Wow it's been so long!
1.8mil in just 5 months after your comment.. this channel is rightfully blowing up in popularity 🎉
Came for the workout critique, stayed for the DB breakdown!
Because of my work and disability, I can go to gym only once per week. So I am exercising kind of like Mike Mentzer. I am doing rest-pauses, to failure then 15 breaths of break and to failure again, until I can't do no more reps. But I am only doing it with separation exercises. For the ones with compound movement, I am doing normal rep ranges and amount of sets. I am also going slow on positive and negative movement, with a bit of pause on contraction. I just started to train with this method, after a long break from gym, so I hope that it will work
How’s it going for you?
20:21 Mike be a little nice with Scott the video guy😢
Low volume made me strong and small. More sets and more frequency is what finally made my arms grow after years of power lifting. I do 1 compound and 1 isolation exercise twice a week. (Row + curls) and then (pulldown + curls). Similar routine for triceps. For forearms i do wrist curls 2x a week and reverse curls 1x a week.
So 12 sets biceps, 12 sets triceps, 9 sets forearms a week. They are blowing up 😊
After a long time of being disappointed by myself for not being able to lift as heavy as I wished for and of course not seeing much results in the mirror I got down a little bit in weights and doing more reps and sets. I got stronger and yes I grew more. I prefer a quite easy workout with not so many different exercises. For example, Dumbbell deadlifts, bench presses on slightly incline shrugs, and for arms skull crushers and hammer curls. I do the heavy ones with a barbell one or two times a week
Wait. If you do wrist curls 2x and reverse curls, thats 3 sets in total. Where did the 9 sets for forearms come from? I would also like to see your program, as I find myself being strong and small also.
@IS-vy2yh I'm assuming each time he says he does an exercise it's a classic 3 sets of 12 or 12,10,8 or whatever
Because you can't train with proper intensity. Frequency and volume suits weaklings like yourself better indeed.
Same here. I did low volume, low-medium frequency for a while and while i did get really strong, hypertrophy was nonexistent until i took a little weight off and increased my volume and frequency. I feel sorry for all the naive beginners out there who will miss out on a lot of gains because they fell for the MM/HIT tropes.
That being said, HIT and low frequency can absolutely yield results as well...particularly in people who are experienced lifters and already have a considerable amount of muscle mass 👍
Dragonball Z tier list is the content I'm subscribed for
Absolutely pro list.
Only missing Gotenks who is both the most underutilized character and has the most unique creative techniques.
If Dr. Mike was a Saiyan, his Ki attacks would be silly and ridiculous like Gotenks.
@@nickf.6027 Gohan is a little bitch and should be cut from dragon ball. He's easily the worst character in the series.
The Mentzer resurgence is because its attractive in that one set to failure is 1) fast, no giant workouts and 2) fun as shit if you have the right mindset. Granted, he wasn't right and studies show that, but its not like it will NOT grow you, so people see results which means its not easily disprovable at the individual level. Ultimately anything that is the One True Secret that is also a shortcut will be popular.
I train using HIT principles, and it works beautifully within my overall fitness regimen. It’s helped me gain strength and some mass in my 50’s, but my focus is a balanced approach of strength, endurance, and mobility. If I were all about hypertrophy (especially at a competitive level), I have doubts that it would outperform conventional protocols.
That 1 set will beat your nervous system up more than your entire volume training.
It isn't a shortcut if you do it properly. It's blood and guts for a reason.
21:57 - that's 92.34%. I didn't know Dr. Mike was giving A's...
Love to see Dana White trying new things
I think the Mike Mentzer and HIT resurgence is mostly because people appreciate his ability to articulate a more seemingly scientific approach to bro science back in the day. I myself tried low volume high intensity training and quickly realized that its implications are that after a phase of high volume training, the body may respond very well to reduced volume giving short term results, but after adapting to low volume, it ends up not being enough to stimulate growth for many body parts (shoulders, arms, chest, lats, quads, calves), which goes against the whole philosophy of one set to failure if more sets are required. Good concept but factoring in athleticism and how it changes depending on physical activity, you really can't just generalize one set to failure as the end all be all for any muscle group.
Talking about bro science… very ironic
What does this mean?@@sebbiesydenham3077
I personally just do 2 sets to failure instead of one on those specific body parts you've mentioned and it always ended up being enough for me. If it doesn't work for you then keep trying until you find what works for you! We are not the same and don't have to be so do what's good for you .
Yeh your anecdote isn't evidence or science, it's essentially exactly the same bro science you're complaining about.
@@Matt_Alaric What is the point of this comment??? I get it, I'm wrong, but why? Where is your opinion and experience?
Help me understand why you need to state the obvious that my comment is not evidence or science, but it was never stated as such either.
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Thanks for the content. This channel is the best
1:58 going back and forth between the pic and your description was like you were finishing a puzzle in my head that I was stuck on
Mike Menzters approach appeals to 2 types of people:
1. Those who want to get in and out of the gym in under 45 mins, and not having to go 3,4 5 times a week (in short those short on free time)
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2. People who love to hammer their muscles into oblivion and not have to worry about having enough time to recover. That said, the mental fortitude needed to do that on so few sets takes a certain type of person.
I tried it, it wasn't for me, RP app all the way and getting results on just 3 full body workouts per week
The Mentzer resurgence is part of a larger cultural zeitgeist of disbelief in the contemporary knowledge of academics, preferring to believe that singular individuals have the "real" answers.
It's the same thing in many areas these days...
Very insightful point
@@kpsiex If someone dedicates years of their life for a doctorate in a field, I believe their authority trumps mine in said field. That doesn't mean that I should blindly believe everything they say, but it does mean that their opinion probably holds more weight than mine.
Well, you could blame what is going on by the general abuse and conning occurring throughout all structures of society, not just academics, but it extends into politics as well. You do know we are living in a time where politicians have connections to a certain man who had a certain island and was convicted of SA against children, no? You also know that academics has found it okay to teach children that gender is something that is on a spectrum and allows men dressed as women to read children's stories to said children. This is supported by the same politicians who I was initially writing about, not to mention, they control a lot of those academic structures.
So yeah, excuse us for being a little subjective of what we have to accept as fact.
@@blakeslide6919 well said my goat
I have my own theory on this ,people are noticing that corporations and marketers have influence over academia ,paying for results or over marketing for certain studies.
Mike mentzer sums a lot of this ,because Arnold was a selling machine ,for you to train six times a week ,2 hours every day you gonna sell pré workouts ,pos work outs ,protein shakes ,gym memberships ,magazines of men health , supplements .
With mentzer you don't need pre workouts to go 2 or 3 times a week in the gym ,only rest .you don't need pos work-out for recovery only rest .
Little to no equipment, so just a home gym will do the job ( his best exercise for arms was dips).
For people who want to lose weight he told them to just walk more .
How you going to sell a high speed treadmill like this .
Mentzer kept simple and cheap and this is just not good for business .
Always love a Dr. Mike video when he puts his full bear on display ❤
Goku was all about pushing yourself and going past your limits but also he understood the importance of recovery, Goku is the man and very inspiring
Loved recovery so much he tossed Cell a senzu bean so he could recover too.
I started training one year ago. I workout at planet fitness using all machines and some dumbbells. I do Mike Mentzers workout routine you can find on UA-cam. I started doing upper lower 4 days out the week. Then moved to 2-3 days. Eventually I moved it to chest triceps then legs then back shoulder biceps. As you get stronger you need more rest. I also used to superset everything, now I just do one set of every exercise because recovery was taking longer. I was 150lbs last year and as of today I’m 178lbs. I’ve also gotten leaner so the majority of that has to have been muscle. Heavy Duty all the way! Looking at 190-195 hopefully in the next year!
That's what's called newbie gains, absolutely nothing to do with mike mentzer,
As a newbie any stimulus will make you grow, but the more advanced you get you need more intensity , load & volume to stimulate growth.
Your body only grows as a last resort when it has no other option
Now do Dorian Yates. Guess he isn't advanced? Hahahaha
horrible, better stay home. useless
@@warrenchu5752 dorian didn't train anything ilike what mentzer advocated,
His back day was 8 exercises in total & his leg days were 7 exercises,
Apart from 1 top set they trained nothing alike
Source "trust me bro"
As a client of Dorian, I can outright exclaim that you are full of sh*t
Mike your knowledge of DBZ put a huge smile on my face I also agree with most of your list placing 😆
I think the biggest thing about the HIT/Mike Mentzer resurgence is time spent vs gains; as opposed to time *passing* vs gains.
If you only have a 2 hour window per week to work out, failure training is probably going to do better for you, because you'll actually be able to stimulate every muscle group in 2 hours to a decent level.. And it doesn't matter if recovery time is longer if you're not working out for another 7 days, anyway.
I was a big fan of Max not very long ago because of his personality, but as I started consuming more fitness content I came to be weary of his affinity for Mike Mentzer's extremely low-volume training philosophy and I haven't watched him very much in a while. I was expecting this video to be a lot more critical of Max, but I was pleasantly surprised when I heard him emphasizing the stretch. Great video, I might find myself watching more Max content now, thank you very much
You stopped watching him because he started following Mike Mentzer…? So you didn’t want him to make gains? I’m confused. Are you really this dumb?
Thank you for the input, mr. Wolfman
I originally bounced off of fitness as a whole, since the attitudes most people have towards it didn't really resonate with me. Like I follow Arnold on twitter, and it's great to see all the inspiration and encouragement he's dishing out, but that doesn't really do anything for me. Seeing Mentzer, on the other hand, really resonated with me, because he is a MASSIVE turbonerd. He was heavily into Objectivism, which would've gotten him shoved into lockers if he didn't have one of the best physiques of his era. Its fascinating to see how ahead of his time he was, and learning what he was wrong about and why he was wrong about it really helps that information stick. Furthermore, as someone who is not in good shape, it's very tempting to do way too much in the gym as some sort of penance or something, but his extremely low volume philosophy helps to disperse that anxiety that I haven't done enough that day. He's easily one of my favorite bodybuilders, but I don't hold up as some kinda god. Those mentzer videos that have been popping up are a good gateway to channels of people who know wtf they're on about, and I feel like they promote the mindset of actually following the science and taking a measured approach to the gym.
"Ugh I gotta do work at my job" me everyday 😂
Obviously some people overtrain. The increased recovery is good for them.
Obviously some people undertrain. The increased intensity is good for them.
May not be optimal, but it makes sense why a lot of folks get results.
max taylors style is just a modernization of mike mentzer. The only flaws that can be found with mentzer are due to knowledge that came about after his death. He took us in a different direction, away from feel and 7 days a week 20 sets of arms a day to systemic, scientific growth. Beautiful
This DBZ breakdown is like Dr. Mike was reading my mind. Love it! Now my all time favorite fitness content creator. I made my wife and kids watch it. Lol
mike is like big buff hairy baby and I'm all for it. I love this please never stop
His DBZ hierarchy is fucking spot on.
Scott the Video Guy's insolence needs to be addressed in his year end performance review, Dr Mike.
1:25 "no head on my hair".
I sure Hope not
Hearing Dr.Mike talk about dragon ball made me happy
Can you do a Video about Mark ripptoe and starting strength?
I think its the Most recommended starting Point and i Started with it too.
I have a question: how you do not essentially go to failure if you’re trying to beat your reps from the week prior? Assuming that to beat those reps you need to push pretty hard
Oh good question - because if your workout is effective, you get stronger (and hopefully bigger) which will shift your failure point. This is why progressive overload is either adding more reps or adding more weight. If you get stronger you can do more reps without going to failure, but yes, ideally beat your prev reps and go to new failure or add more weight and go to new failure. Dont forget to eat right and allow enough time for recovery to get more gains :)
I have the same thoughts. (Commenting so I could get a notif when someone answers lol.)
This information was more informative then the video.@@TheGhostofAdam
@@foxdogs1stthis info is in other RP videos
To hell with you Doc! He doesn't look like no one I ever seen in Orlando Florida! This is a mid west 80's look!
You are saying it's basically a wash, then why is that you vehemently disagree. It clearly works. Mike had an amazing physique. Dorian Yates also had an amazing physique. It definitely works for strength. It's put 60 pounds on my deadlift(double overhand, no hook grip, raw after recovering from late onset Type 1 Diabetes(diagnosis at age 35) in the matter of 6 weeks. Prior to that. I couldn't make gains doing the type of exercise that you speak of being better. Currently 37. Drug free(not even trt). By the way, the controlled eccentric is definitely part of Mentzers training method. His suggestion is 3 count concentric and a 4 count on the eccentric, specifically. I completely agree with your method as well, by the way. But High intensity is absolutely viable.
“No head on my hair” Dr Mike is human! I do that all of the time 😂
I’d say what made Mike mentzer so great for his time, was his use and understanding of basic exercise physiology and science. He applied it with the facts that they had at the time and made it important to understand the physiology before starting a training program. Also just his overall charisma and straight to the point philosophy is what I think makes mentzer such a talked about guy.
His understanding of exercise tempo was on point, but with his “1 set” scenario definitely not ideal.
Isn't Mike the only bodybuilder to ever get a perfect score??!!
What's your point?
He was very average as a pro & that is facts
So we should listen to everything he says? Damn it really is a cult.
@@pauldavies7251 average or not he's the only bodybuilder who has been judged to have a perfect physique, which I believe is the point of going to the gym as a professional lifter, so "If" I was wanting to copy a bodybuilder I'd "probably" pick the only one who was judged perfect.
Average? He was robbed in his final show.
You are a hater. Very sad.
So I recently went back the gym and tried the one set to failure routine. I liked how it felt because 1 I'm not spending 2 ½ hours in the gym and 2 I actually felt sore afterward. Before I had to fulfill two roles in my job, I was going to the gym 4x a week and 2½ a session but because I was walking like 20-22 thousands steps I just didn't have the resiliency too go workout even on my days off. Basically I wanted to min max my workouts and the one set felt like it was working, but 3 weeks later I'm back to doing multiple sets to try and replicate that one set to failure routine.
Mike Mentzer was very ahead of his time in body building knowledge, was very well spoken, and got a perfect score in the Olympia... thats the big deal!!!
What about Future Trunks?
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Level of respect for editor: increased exponentially!
Mike was right it works, he had a good head of hair too so instinctively i trust him immediately
U dont understand why people are into mike mentzer!..but u jus gave this young man the best rating!!! For following mike mentzer he explained it all...jus keep it simple n inspiring like mentzer...and u too will b remembered years after ur dead n gone...love ur vids dr mike...
This dude trains surprisingly well. Props to him. Also Menzer had the gifts of drugs and genetics. So his under-training benefitted him but probably won’t benefit most people.
Certain muscle fibers aren't activated/stimulated until you reach failure. There is a SLIGHT benefit between 2 rir and 1 rir, between 1 rir and 0 rir, and between 0 rir and failure. That's with individual sets. Yes, you CAN get "similar" results with 1 set to failure vs 3/4 sets no to failure, but 1 set to failure saves time and fatigue vs 4 sets say 1-2 rir especially if the last set is to failure. But like i said, why the extra time and fatigue for similar results? I personally do 1-2 sets to failure or beyond per exercise no more than 6 sets for a muscle in a workout. Works wonders
The reason Mike Mentzer is so great is that he promoted low volume training, and people don’t want to spend much time in the gym
this people be taking his words too serious all u really need is 3-5 good hard sets and ur good imo if u can do more than 5 sets the weight is too light
I am also a furry bear man… my wife likes it, I hate it except it hides my gains from myself until summer…
Bro you missed your calling as a stand up comedian, loving every one of the exercises and the look unironically asks why Mentzer/Yates style workouts are on the resurgence. I'll let you in on the secret: people like them because it's something new, it focuses on safety and control, and it works. There is more for sure, just think on the focus on performing the movements correctly that Mentzer has, he has it all in his books. Most people (including Max) make a mistake though. It's not about heavy weight (re iterated in Dorian Yate's Blood and Guts in intro) it's about high intensity contraction with as little force as possible through a full range of motion. Real simple shit brother, you can even train like that injured. Great vid, the banter with the crew is hilarious!
继续前进并保持坚强来完成这段旅程！暗影巫师金钱帮，我们喜欢施法!!
Watching your triceps flex when you get passionate about bad info is funny. LUV IT!!!
Mentzer was about more than just BodyBuilding. He wanted people to live a more rounded lifestyle and think critically about everything. That’s the attraction. Read a couple of his books.
I do cardio for cardiovascular health.. strength and longevity are both important
It seems to me that the mike/dolan approach of training to failure works better for people who are natural. Failure and plenty of recovery is better than constant sets. To me it showed better results and same for others it seems.
Dr. Mike is the Dave Ramsey of Body Training. You should make a channel where you take calls and tell people what they're doing wrong.
When Dr Mike said “ you got the work” I know he’s been around the that corner a few times. 😂lol new Level of respect
I'll tell you what Mike Menzer was completely 100% correct when he said for your biceps lat pullovers with your palms up is best for biceps at least in my opinion, I did it yesterday and my biceps burned like never before!
"Low level, Orlando Florida ecstasy dealer" did me in!😂😂😂
Just lift weights and be active often and consistently. It's really not that deep
Kindly see yourself out
Dude, why do I always end up loving the people I intensely dislike when I first see them? Love you Mike
1:24 “No head on my hair” 😂😂😂 I’m fucking cracking up 🤣😂🤣
His results speaks for itself
I have the dbz/dbs characters on a sleeve from strongest to weakest, capped with Zen-o and piccolo, then kid gohan and vegita, followed by roshi, and endin with shenron as that head looks rad as a full hand tat.
3:47 I couldn’t help but question my ears. I love how he talks about his step tracker being Halloween themed, but then I’m hearing COD Zombies menu music? 😂 I guess it fits well enough
Scott the video guy losing his shit when Mike said he doesn't film good angles was hilarious 😂
I think train to failure might reduce time under tension, thus reducing time in the gym. Its better for busy schedules. Arguably. No better for gains, but perhaps less time in gym
When you go to the store put the sttep tracker on your belt, because if you're pushing the cart with that hand it won't register your steps.
Idk about this Max guy, but I’ve done the typical volume methods over the last 8 years in my 20s, now in my thirties and started Mike Mentzers heavy duty method and my arms and lats have exploded and never been bigger.
It’s easy to speak out about something that haven’t even try
When you said "I hate when they nerf Piccolo" I knew we were meant to be
It’s simple Dr.Mike, MM and DY took the complexities out of all this training information overload. Simple training done quickly and long rest in between, wash, rinse and repeat, especially for guys like us in their mid fifties that need to be careful with joints and ligaments. Warm up sets are crucial for HIT for obvious reasons but mind muscle connection is crucial.
I like the young 70s dude in this video with his porn mustache ( would have loved the 70s porn background music 😂).
Obviously exercise science is always expanding but a mix of both HIT and RP training done 30- to an hour infrequently has been a good mix for me personally and others I have talked to.
The philosophy basically comes down to taking ALL the complexities out of the training and focusing on compound exercises for hypertrophy done quickly especially in a busy gym. YOGA (for me)is a huge component for balance and recovery with moderate fasted cardio on a machine or out in nature (best option).
Love your Viking impersonations 😆
I trained like Mike Menzter (without knowing of him) growing up, i just hit everything once a week and annihilated all my muscles. It was fun and i definitely built a respectable natural physique. Even to this day i gravitate wanting to train like that more than hitting everything twice a week.. i will say tho i prob did over train with hitting everything once a week.
Mike is way too funny. My favorite comedian.
Dr. Mike you are the fucking god damn man with the dbz knowledge. Let's fucking go
Please don't argue Scott and Mike xxx
What the beef with Teen Gohan? he was my favorite for a time. He was OP!
30-45 mins in a gym/3-4 times a week with full intensity will beat 1 hour or more in a gym/5-7 days in a week at any times, if you are natural ofc!! For enhanced people its all the same, you can train anyhow and you will grow
Mike Mentzer just had that fatherly coaching voice, I think that's the appeal. Also it's not a bad way to test your max limits and possibly rediscover some things.
On my way to the gym to do the Mentzer aproach like usual twice a week, full body, all natural and for sure stronger than those high volume ones.
That og MK tattoo and Goku dragon ball tattoo are pretty dope tho ngl.
Hey Scott the video guy, I appreciate your angles. Love your camera guy Mike or else >:(
Funny stuff. Mike could do a comedy routine as a side hustle.
@17:50 the whole train to failure thing, I've trained with a lot of world class powerlifters, and they NEVER went to "failure", would they do max effort? For sure, but RPE 9-10 for 1 rep doesn't necessarily mean "failure", because you can do additional singles afterwards. The strongest people in the world, whether it's powerlifting or strongman, pretty much never go to failure unless it's in a comp.
Mr. Mentzer is just too handsome and dope that even men feel attracted to him, and his training kinda works, you feel more masculine and gains some above average strength and you have a ton of free time. It may not be the most optimal training for muscle growth, but it gets the job done alrigth.
You actually caught me with that "did you just fucken sigh on me"😅
MM made his programs so that proper training would yield results for ALL trainees, rather than over training them on programs that works only for the upper end of the bell curve. MI is on that part of the spectrum, so it makes sense he favors that.
That young Gohan take is so increbily based hooooooly
People like the mike stuff because it’s like a miracle drug workout regime like “oh so I don’t have to worry about all the weights and sets? I just have to do one set that’s so much faster and easier to manage”
minute 1:57 like a less italian version of the cockroach from thumbalina. And yes, the cockroach was def supposed to be italian.
Love the random dragonballz ranking inbetween.I like a little humor in my education.