Insta360 Ace Pro vs GoPro Hero 12 - LOW LIGHT Comparison
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- This is a night city walk with the GoPro Hero 12 and the Insta360 Ace Pro. One of these cameras gets destroyed in this low light test... I wasn't expecting that!
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In my video the GoPro performed terribly in low light too!
Yeah, I was hoping it was going to do much better, totally didn’t expect it to fall apart that badly.
We aren't low light "crazy" lol I've been selling cameras for 20 years and witness the conception of action cams and two features that's been requested since then and most wanted was better usable low light recording and yes, better zoom. Not one camera since has had either of those perfected and here we are, most people just can't be happy no matter what, a lot will just dig for the non critical negatives and dwell on them which I'm finding with a lot of user comments, it's really quite sad tbh lol
Insta360 much better then gooro
but the problem is ace pro comparison is using its special pure night mode. That limits you from using any other key features like freemode and hdr.
I shoot night video on GoPro in Log mode. It looks brighter
Thanks for being more positive in this video. As someone who owns both the GoPro Hero 12 and Insta360 Ace Pro I have to say the Insta is AMAZING in low light (no shimmer or wiggle like the GoPro has). Personally, I need a camera that excels in low light and regular life situations as I'm not someone doing back flips off mountains. The Insta360 Ace Pro is my go to travel / low light camera now. (Any colour tone concerns with the Insta are compensated by adjusting the white balance.)
I much prefer being positive to be completely honest. I also think I’ll start setting it to 5600k like all my other cams. It is starting to grow on me, I’ll tell you that!
@@PhillipSkrabaSo is the Insta actually good now?
How does it's image quality compare to pocket 3?
Since I set it on 5600k it seems a lot cleaner, and I prefer to natural look to a set white balance. It's a totally different feel to the Pocket 3. The Pocket 3 feels much tighter.
@@PhillipSkraba Thanks.
What about image quality as in Sharpness, etc. Does the Pocket 3 have that higher quality look?
Not bothered about Bokeh.
I believe it's already had two firmware updates since the release with some good fixes/improvements from what I've read.
Man, the Insta360 Ace Pro really shines in low light. Great tests by the way!!
It did come out looking like the king of low light, I can’t deny it, it’s right there in the tests. I swore GoPro was going to do a better job but it seems zero A.I. and a smaller sensor really couldn’t match what the Insta360 is pushing.
I know it isn't relevant to this test, but for selfish reasons I'd have liked to see the iPhone 15 Pro Max included, because I have one along with a Hero 12 and you've convinced me that the Hero 12 is worthless for low light (at least, compared to the Ace Pro). It's tempting to buy an Ace Pro for the low-light performance, but if the iPhone can do a comparable job then I wouldn't need to-I don't do "action cam" stuff in the dark, so the many, many other differences between them aren't important to me. Anyway, your videos are absolutely *great*, and I want to thank you for them.
I have been asked quite a few times to compare it to the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and I might actually have to do that, but in experience with the iPhone, I still think the Ace Pro will come out on top. Thanks!
I dunno... Other comparisons on UA-cam make it seem like a toss-up, with the iPhone maybe having *slightly* better dynamic range (more detail in brighter areas during night shots). But I'm not as confident in the methodology of other reviewers as I am in yours. Besides, they are vastly less entertaining. 🙂
Wow, Ace killed GoPro in this immensely, we are starting to see more and more reviews out now, and some aren't even using GoPro because it's not even a contender, still the DJI A4 as it's direct competition. As for the low light, not only sundown shooting, for scuba divers, lighting is essential in terms of clarity and color where I think the Ace will shine. This review is obviously a no brainer lol Thank you, great review!
Yep, GoPro really disappointed me in this comparison, and I was pretty sure it would do a great job. Thanks!
@@PhillipSkraba GoPro has had their time and they've gotten lazy. I'm a big DJI fan myself with their OSMO series and drones, Action 2 I want to throw out the window though lol
I think the GoPro is an old truck, solid and does what it needs to, the Ace Pro seems like an electric car, fresh, full of tech and high quality, but not to everybody's needs.
@@PhillipSkraba Lol that's one way to put it, I don't know though, I have a new truck now and going to be hard to live without my Android Auto, heated seats, steering wheel, lane assist, 360 camera system... you get th e gist lol
So see the thing is...the only reason why we notice any camera being better then the other is because the attention has been brought to the viewers to pay attention to it.
I could make a 'creative' video in low light using either of these cameras and most people watching it, won't even think about it the low light quality is good or not (unless it was completely crap). They will be too busy enjoying the creative aspect of the video.
I think every action camera gives you very good daylight video ESPECIALLY if the video comes from a very creative aspect. The audio and the creativity will almost ALWAYS supercede these small differences in light output between action cameras.
You guys bringing attention to specifics between cameras is what get the couch critiques going nuts. I will make a set of cool videos using cameras I won't mention until the end of the video and people will e joy the video because of the creative approach no matter the time of day!
It's up to the potential consumers to know what exactly what type of content creator they will be. Then figure out what type of content they will create and then figure out which camera best fits their needs.
I have a hero 8 and hero 10 which gives me 'watchable' low light footage. Good enough where my creativity will override the video quality. Be creative and people will watch you videos. Don't get too caught up in these specifics.
Remember....the Action4 just a few months ago had everyone on its nuts when it came out with it's low light performance. Now you have SOME reviewers who are now acting like it doesn't perform good in low light anymore because this insta360 is now out on the market. It's craaazy how it plays out like that sometimes
lol no chance.. go pro low light footage in models before the 12 are absolutely unusable. Hardly usable for the 12.
@@ryanwinchester3864 stay tuned! My hero 10 for example puts out better low light footage then my hero 11. I'm not sure how GoPro did it, but the hero 10 has that pre-selected 'low light' option and when compared with the Hero 9-11 along with the Action3, it went as follows from best to worse.
- Hero 10
- Hero 11
- Action 3
- Hero 9
And theeeen I found my hero 8 behind my couch this past weekend and decided to take it with me to work and out of curiosity ran a series of low light test between it and my hero 10 and my Hero 8 seems to give me a little more light output in dark scenarios then my hero 10.
I will put the resolutions on the screen etc etc. If another UA-camr posted such a video and the results dictate what I am observing, I would find it hard to believe but from where I stand, the older hero cams DID come with this "low light" pre-setting the newer heros haven't come with (with the exception of the hero 9) as I didn't observe pre-selected low light settings in that camera and it seems to work well.
I want to reiterate when I say "useable" I mean something you could actually watch if it's entertaining enough. If you are watching something with the intention to critique it's low light performance period, you may look at it and say it's unuseable.
If I for example was your favorite UA-camr and I made a lowlight video with a Hero 10 "for example" I would say you would find the quality 'useable'. I hope I explained that properly. The hero 11 couldn't hold a candle to the Hero 10 in my comparisons using as much of their sensors as possible adjusting ISO/Shutter speed/fps values and well as recording in gopro's recommended widest lens/aspect ratio option. I am still putting it together.
Overall it's for you to decide. I just felt the gopro's output isn't that bad if you are watching the video to enjoy the content rather then watching to evaluate the hardware being used to record the content.
The Action 4 is as good as the Ace Pro in low light in my opinion, it just lacks the A.I. ability to stabilise the footage well enough, with stabe off it might even be brighter, but people like stabe, so there's that. The Hero 12 to my surprise in this test fell very far behind.
However, I agree with you. Once you pull the audience in, once you capture them with a story, they don't care if they're watching it on a calculator or an Arri Alexa. The thing is most people who buy these cameras are looking for the best quality in the most situations, with the least post production. At the moment the Ace Pro seems to deliver that, with the Action 4 being catered to a more advanced group who prefer the option to have a more thorough workflow including colour grading.
For pixel peeping, yep, for the story, like I mentioned above, it can be used and not take notice of. I used to film in low light situations with GoPros 10 years ago, now those were completely different times, the pixels were as big as your hand lol.
@@PhillipSkraba yes yesss we are seeing eye to eye on this. I didn't want my response to the gentleman to be too long (I have a habit of going on and on and on sometimes) but I always feel context is everything.
What I love about your 'showings' is you put the equipment through their paces. You ride a motorcycle, you drive, walk, 'quick' run, perform b-roll type of footage giving viewers a slew of scenarios while showing them how the cams perform in different scenarios in different lighting.
I am a heavy GoPro user and I skipped on the hero 12. More because of the lack of GPS chip as I love having telemetry data in my action footage when applicable and then taking it out just turned me off. Not to mention, when I sat down and thought about it, I realized that they are all very good in the daylight so that is not a problem for me. But sometimes I like to do my motorcycle rides at night, or ride my electric scooters at night and at high speeds.
So for me I like to also take that information, record and then put it online for people who may be using these action cameras to record night rides on EUC's, long boards, and electric scooters to see how these cams perform for their use case. That's when I noticed how much better the Hero 10 is then the Hero 9, Action 3, Hero 11 and hero 12 footage when I look at videos online of Hero 12 low light footage.
Obviously the Action 4 is BETTER then the Hero 10 in low light but I always think.....is the Hero 10 low light footage (depending on the lighting) at least still useable?
Us motovloggers who can record hours of footage usually record in 1080p (or 1440 if available) to reduce file size allowing us to record many video clips without running out of space. That dang hero 8 records in 1440p in the 16:9 ratio which is perfect for motovloggers. (Hero 9/10/11 doesn't even offer that setting). So I try to bring out all of these differences according to people's needs and budget.
I don't recall if the arrow 12 has a pre-selected low light setting like the hero 8 and the hero 10 does but hopefully the hero 13 does and if they can just bring up the sensor size a little bit I think they would really do some damage to the current competitors.
P.s. I think GoPros problem is they have too many separate entities within the company itself. They are california-based but then they have suppliers in China and other parts of Asia making parts for their cameras. Now you have to buy sensors from Sony and now we have too many hands on the pot to make the company run. DJI and insta360 are their own entities. They are completely based and manufactured in China which makes their overall blah blah basically I think GoPro has to spend more money to run as a company then their competitors which is making this hard for them to stay competitive with hardware and price points. But time will tell.
Man, the daytime comparison sold me on Hero 12 and now this sold me on the Ace Pro. You're killing me! lol
I know!!! I was sure the GoPro Hero 12 would do a MUCH better job, so I really wasn't expecting these results.
I have the Ace Pro, Pocket 3, and the Hero12. The Ace Pro is not nearly as good as the Pocket 3 at night. If I am holding the Ace Pro very still, the video is quite good. But even at Pro Video, the Ace Pro causes the light sources to shake in the distance when I am walking with the Ace Pro attached to the GoPro Volta. I wasn't even walking very fast. I'm sure it will do well with a gimbal, but if that's the case, it defeats the purpose of buying it over the Pocket 3 which has amazing low light video by the way
It feels like a really good stepping stone to some insane changes to next year's cameras. If they all have AI lowlight denoise, we'd all be shooting more vids at night.
Man and our conquest to defeat the night. 😂👌
Yep! I’m pretty sure GoPro and DJI could buy the same chip, implement their own tech and algorithms levelling the playing field for low light, maybe even bump that sensor to 1”. It’s a bright future, pun intended. It seems like Insta360 got to their first, so the others have some catching up to do.
Another great review as always Phillip. I just brought an Insta260 Ace Pro and I was going to sell me Go Pro Hero 11 but now I think that I'll keep both cameras. A BIG thumbs up as usual and please keep the reviews coming. They are both informative and entertaining at the same time.
Kym, as always great to hear from you! I hope you enjoy it, it’s very surprising how it compared to the GoPro in low light, so it’s a bit of an eye-opener for me. I’m basically eating my hat.
Another good test! There's just no comparison to the Ace Pro. The Ace Pro is far superior in terms low light image quality, noise control, and stabilisation! It's amazing how good the stabilisation is with the Ace Pro.
I do however feel a bit miffed with Insta for not having an changeable lens cover for the Ace Pro.
Trust me, I'm as amazed as you are. When I saw other launch reviews, they really didn't show what this camera was capable of, that's why I went and bought it myself to test it and see. After a couple of days using it, I'm pretty much blown away at what it can do in low light situations, especially when comparing it to the likes of the GoPro. I am a fan of the DJI Action 4, but even that has jitters in low light where the Ace Pro seems to be completely smooth.
I am too, and from the information I've been gathering it had to do with leakage, so that would probably mean that either it gets totally waterproofed like it is now, or it would be pushed back many months.
@@PhillipSkraba Insta should've thought about this at conception. I hear that they now say they'll replace the lens cover free for first year but it does not include shipping cost though and I think this is more for customers in US. Not sure if this is the case for other parts of the world. Anyway, even if it does include countries outside US, the shipping cost is still a bummer!
I might have to see how that works, I'm sure if I put it on my RC car it'll take a good hard whack 😂 Might make a vlog on the whole process!
Thank you, finally someone that sais it as it is. This insta is not an action is more of a family holiday camera and vlogging. Insta one rs is an action camera. Gopro is an action camera. I have gopro and insta360 as you do, but I don’t see the point of this ca,era for an action camera. Vlogging , yes.
With the way you use it, flipping the screen up and down depending if you're in front or behind, you're increasing the chance of breaking the screen tape thing.
I'd use it the same way and most people vlogging/taking family videos would use it the same way too.
I totally agree and wonder how many times it’s been stress tested. I’ve had a few laptop screens that had suffered from this problem where the tape broke and the screen started loosing lines of pixels. Here though, the tape is rubber, and it’s got a fair bit of play when it’s fully open, so hopefully there isn’t too much stress on it. I need to ask Insta if they have any test info on it, as this is the way most vloggers would use it. The GO3 has the same system, so far it’s okay but I don’t open and close it so much due to the fact I can take the camera out and still look at the screen.
I'm just here to see you running up and down the street waiting for the car to become free.
ahahahahaha You!!!
Hahaha
Please compare it with pocket 3 too!! Please do a side by side for pocket 3 and ace pro on low light please please!
That would be a very interesting showdown.
Yes! Looking forward to watching it❤ I watched your other videos and saw you also have pocket 3. Im torn between the 2. ❤
@darlynnenriquez3766 they’re two very different cameras, both good in their own ways. I’ll see what I can do.
im getting the ace pro for vlogging because i like the big screen, the low light capability, the ai features, and its being water proof. but i wont be using it as an action camera. 😊
You see, THAT’s how it should have been marketed! The King of vlog cams! That I’m on board with, and that I can agree on. This is a vloggers cam, and to be honest I can see a lot of pros once you pigeon hole it like that.
@@PhillipSkrabai think if insta360 really want to compete with action cameras, they should just develop further their rs series, right? or find out a way to protect (or have removable and interchangeable) lenses with their x series. just my opinion. 😅
The Ace Pro really out performs the GoPro. Thanks for helping me decide which to purchase next.
Anytime!
The low light is great on the ace pro but what about the lens guard? What happens if you scratch it? It's preinstalled and can't be replaced unless you send it in. For an action camera that sucks
That’s correct, Insta360 are offering free replacements if you scratch it. For an action camera that’s not the best, however in my opinion this isn’t as much an action camera as it is a vlogging camera where that isn’t much of a problem anymore.
I too thought you were being harsh but much more positive in this video. I think we all know that everything beats the GoPro 12/11.5. I really like my Ace Pro, but I know it currently isn't a great as the Action 4 in low light. I personally cant say it's better since I dont have an Action4 but was really impressed with my night video when I was riding my motorcycle. With my Gopro 11, everything i captured was unusable.
Well, the Action 4 has really great low light capabilities, but I’m still baffled at how Insta360 allow me to run at night and still have rock stable stabe, it’s freakishly good, and I need to get to the bottom of how they do that!
Philip, as always, in good shape... but maybe you could run a little :D it always increases the viewership :P Will he have a heart attack or not :D When I'm walking along Piotrkowska Street, I always look around to see if there's a crazy guy with a camera running on OFF :)
My first GoPro is Hero4 Black, the second one is Hero10 and the higher one will be... Insta360 Ace Pro 2 (if it turns out, because if I need it, GoPro 10 will be enough :) I'm already excited about DJI Action 4, and here's the twist...
hahaha, if you see someone running, that's me!! Yes, this camera is quite the twist for me, I'm very surprised by the results it's giving and was NOT expecting them at all.
Really enjoying your video's. I bought the Ace pro last week off the back of the initial reviews. Then i seen yours and felt like id made a big mistake. Now i think it will be great for what I want. Vlogging and a bit of action ( not too extreem) . Its quite funny watching you slowly warm to the Ace pro from you initial stance of it being total trash. Keep up.the goodd work all the best Mark
Thanks Mark! Well, I can't deny what it does in low-light, it's pretty incredible. I'm looking at this camera not as a GoPro killer, but as a vlogging camera that has a lot of bells and whistles for people who want to vlog and upload without any serious workflow.
That's me !! Keep the videos coming you have a new fan and plenty more I suspect by the end of this run
The Ace not having 10bit video or a removal lens cover removes it from the competition.
I agree, as an action camera. As a vlogging camera, totally different perspective, when looking at it that way, it seems to tick a lot of boxes. I’ve started treating it that way, no matter how it’s been marketed and I think it makes way more sense to use it as a camera to social media workflow type camera.
Problem here is you're comparing a hero 12 to an Ace Pro. The Ace Pro is about $200 more expensive than the hero 12. I have yet to see someone do apples to apples by comparing the Insta 360 Ace to the Hero 12.
That's true, and it's really odd that there has been so little talk about the Ace. I will make sure to check it out. However, it's basically human nature to take the 3 best cameras and put them up against each other.
in ace pro, for me, the stabilization and very good noise reduction at night are amazing, which makes these materials very useful for an amateur, the tilting screen also worries me, because I dive into the sea with my cameras and if I use them at all, it is in where even I can get hurt. salt water and hinges or cables do not like each other. In Hero 12, as in every Hero, the stabilization is not very useful even in worse conditions, despite HDR, large blocks of noise are still visible. Personally, I prefer the finely grained DJ noise, although I could use a faster shutter and the temperature sensor is great, I wouldn't have to set the temperature for each clip.
It's nice that you compare so much and don't make the usual advertising gibberish, thank you !
I'm glad they're helpful. Yes, I think people might be worried about the screen, but underwater I think it might be okay, and also at 90 degrees might also be easier to film with when diving, no idea, you'd have to try and let us know. DJI does have nice noise, I agree with that. As for the Ace Pro, after reading a lot about it, I'm shocked that the noise is removed by A.I. in low light and how well it works, especially with stabilisation, I had no idea it was doing that.
@@PhillipSkraba that's what I heard about the AI method when recording videos. If I understood correctly, it works as it should, otherwise all AI functions are performed after reading from the sensor before compression, thanks to which the output material is of better quality. I think this is the future here. with the rate of development that gopro has, it will be somewhere in hero 20 🤣. Although it's still amazing that dji without these features achieves effects that seem almost perfect for video processing.
The insta looks so much better than the gopro. Ordered my ace and buzzing to shoot with it.
In low light it really does shine, I’m still getting to know mine and still not sure if we’ll be friends, but as everyday goes forward I realise it’s not as bad as I initially thought, especially when considering it as a vlogging camera.
10:05 Did I notice a black bar when recording GoPro?
Yes, it does that at night sometimes, no idea why, some kind of weird banding.
Another nice video,
I actually trying to cancel my ace pro order after considering the videos you have posted.
I’d hold on, as so far in low light it’s really surprised me, so I’m going to test it out some more and see what it can do as an vlog cam, not an action cam
@@PhillipSkraba I already canceled the order
More fair, thanx. I have the GoPro12 and Ace Pro. I love the GoPro, but the Ace Pro is a winner now. And i think its a mistake that people still call these cameras action cameras.. they are “multi purpose cameras”. One thing i dont hear about is; the fantastic software menu speed on the Ace Pro, and also when you pick it up after 1 week, it still has 100% power. The GoPro is always flat, and that pisses me off
The Insta looks much better. I hated the colors on the One R (and the SMO 4K) and never went back to it (was never able to fix it). On an fpv drone I doubt the Ace Pro performs very well, is heavier, will break easier and has no ReelSteady.
But good to have more competition, maybe GoPro finally fixes its problems.
Competition is always a good thing. For FPV, no idea, I don't own an FPV drone, so I'm not sure how it would perform. It does have 360 horizon levelling, and great low light stability, so maybe.
Being a bit more kinder but in doing so pandering to those who just didn't like the truth... At the end of the day as you said yourself the 'elephant in the room' is that non removable lens cover. You can take all the features of the Ace Pro, paint them as you like and sell them as many times as you want but the fact is that none of it counts if your footage is marred in the first instance by an optical flaw caused by a scratched or cracked lens cover. If all you want is a vlogging camera then the ACE Pro will fit the bill for most, but if you want to use it as an action camera, why would you want to ignore this and like many reviewers other than yourself decide to ignore it. What does it say about the honesty and integrity of those reviewing these. I don't own an Action 3 or 4, nor an Ace Pro and certainly not a GoPro so I am not battling for anyone here, just dismayed at the falsehood that surrounds this camera and its reviews.
Well, I’m just comparing it to other cameras in different situations so everyone can see what it really looks like, at the end of the day, the final image is the most important. I wanted to be a little fairer to this camera, and in that I decided to look at its pros instead of only cons as I had a lot of people call me out at being only negative about it, so okay, I can play fair and I can be nice. In that I looked at the camera, all its specs, no Log, no 10-bit, flip screen, etc, and came to the conclusion that it’s been marketed to the wrong crowd, or had been wrongly pigeon holed as an action camera. To me, this is a vlog camera, and it just could be the King of vlog. People with a Pocket 3 or an iPhone 15 don’t care about replaceable lenses, they like bigger screens, the want something that’ll get them from camera to social media quickly, without any fuss, with a clean image, day and night. The Ace Pro seems to tick all these boxes, and looking at it in this mindset completely changed my attitude towards the camera. So I’m giving it a chance in that regard. It’s a vlogging camera that can by chance shoot action.
@@PhillipSkraba totally get where you’re coming from and your response sums up the situation in a nutshell. Personally I see the Ace Pro as a vlogging camera and not really meant for ‘action’. Trouble is when all the reviews compare and pitch it against the action 4 and the GoPro, it’s right and proper to identify its shortcomings in that area instead of ignoring them.
If the reviewers can’t act with honesty and impartiality then how can those who watch these reviews trust them. Too much hype influenced potentially by the free product in return for a review.
UA-cam needs people like you who call out the issues without favour.
Well, I believe in being honest, even if a review is sponsored. I'd say the majority of my videos are sponsored, and I do my part to be honest. The good companies take that information and turn it in to positivity and evolve their products. The ones that don't like hearing it or censor it, those are the ones that will be probably lynched by the public.
The thing with Insta360 is that I've been an affiliate with them for longer than most of the other companies I work with, and I honestly think they're great and strong believe in them and their innovation. I also do believe the whole Ace Pro launch was a misunderstanding due to technical issues, last minute changes - for the better of the camera, and I really think they mislabelled the camera as an action camera, to me, it's a vlog camera with the option to use as an action camera. This mislabelling had everyone comparing it to the Hero 12, which is a tank and an action camera with the option to vlog. That's my two pennies' worth.
First of all a great new video, and personally i prefer direct information and honesty. Thats why you are the best! So yes in low light against the gopro12, the ace pro is the winnner. I agree its more a camera for vloggers but also for normal family videos and photos where you dont want to use a smartphone. But a comparison during daylight and lowlight against the iphone 15 or samsung s23 would be great to see. And again Insta needs to come up with a lens guard cap asap
I can think about an iPhone 15 Pro Max vs Insta360 Ace Pro video, sure! That would be fun.
i saw a review mentioning that there's a lens cap or filter for the ace pro (context was he's also complaining about its non removal lens and that a filter would protect it at least) but unfortunately he didnt have it during filming of his review.
@walkwithyan I would like a lens cap for this camera, it would make me feel more at ease.
"I can think about an iPhone 15 Pro Max vs Insta360 Ace Pro video, sure!" Yes, please!!!
I will get an action camera in spring and idk what to get gopro 12 or ace pro gopro seems like just what i need but ace pro is really tempting i need some advice
If you're going to be throwing it in the mud, against the wall, driving over it, then go with the GoPro, but if you're going to be vlogging with it, go with the Ace Pro.
@@PhillipSkraba ty for feedback and i think i'm going with gopro bc i ride horses so theres mud and a lot of other things tht need a pretty durable camera
Thanks for the Comparison. It felt like, Insta360 brings the bigger innovations at this time.
It does feel like Insta360 is the only one using A.I. to really get ahead and improve the image, that's true.
I feel you bro, its hard to eat own words from previous videos :D:D:D But you were right about everything, at the end it's kinda great camera but also annoying how they expose gopro in a bad way. Ultimately they try to make a good promotion off putting down gopro. Ffixed lens cover is unacceptable for this price. Clicky display should be at least modular / removable. It's everything but not real action camera. PS. Thanks for the real, unbiased comparison! :D
Anytime, happy to provide my thoughts and opinions, and will continue to do so. I will also continue to test the Ace Pro to see what it really can do as I see that so many people are interested in it, so that's got to mean something.
@@PhillipSkraba one suggestion, please in next videos show full screen of each once in a while. Hopefully you get me... and thanks for your time and effort! :)
i heard another youtuber mention (i also read on reddit) that the ace pro's ai warp feature will be a paid subscription starting january 2024. do you know about this?
Yes, it says it right there in the app, I’m not sure how people will feel about that. I myself have been enjoying the feature with my kids the last couple of days, but I don’t think I’d want to pay for it to be honest.
@@PhillipSkraba so they gave it for free... for 3 months only. haha
I believe so, yes.
Thank you for taking another shot at the Insta 360 Ace Pro. This camera definitely shines compared to the Hero 12 in low light. The HDR and AI denoising brings back the color and details in the various lights, whereas the Hero 12 tends to overexpose the lights. Philip, your videos carry a lot of weight with me, and you really had me second-guessing my thoughts on purchasing the Ace Pro (as a replacement for the DJI Action 3) - but after further evaluation, plus this additional low-light review- I am firmly back on the Ace Pro band wagon.
Further, in regards to the build confidence of the flip screen, a good friend of mine has the Insta 360 Go 3, which uses a similar flip screen. He got his when it came out months ago, and he uses it all the time for vlogging and in his studio, and has not had any issues with it.
I agree with you in that it may depend on how the user plans to use this camera. Like most folks, I won’t be using it in “action” scenarios. The most extreme would be hiking and kayaking, and I don’t think those qualify! 😎
I’m warming up to it whilst treating it not like an action camera or GoPro killer, but an A.I. vlog camera. The low light shots have had me very surprised, so I am diving deeper into this camera to see what makes it tick, and how it can make my life easier. The screen on my GO3 looks good too, so hopefully this one holds strong too.
It really is disappointing that you can't swap that lens cover, because the image quality is really good. But man, that is just such a deal breaker in an "Action" camera. I do find the idea of using it as a "vlogging camera" kind of funny. Is that a good form factor for vlogging? I guess it's easy to throw in a pocket. Just try hard not to scratch that lens cover when you do.
While I would definitely like the low light performance, I do have larger cameras for that, which will outperform even the insta360 any way. I was 100% sold until I found out about that lens cover. Man that is so disappointing.
I saw there’s a video in youtube that he is removing and changing the lens
On my Hero 12, if I turn on my HDR, it doesn't allow me to change the ISO settings. How did you max out your ISO setting? Thanks
Well, exactly in that way, by turning on HDR, it maxes it out at 1600 iso, not the normal 6400 iso that you can get without HDR. It merges two iso shots together, hence the reduction in noise and recovery of highlights.
@@PhillipSkrabaThank you! That makes sense!
The only thing that batter in insta360 is a bit better stab in low light
That clearly isn't the case here. There are no pixels, there is more light, there is no jitter. The thing is the Ace Pro is playing with a bigger sensor and A.I. tech, so the GoPro had little chance.
I want to see what it looks like with the shutter speed to around 400 in low light for running or bike riding Vs the action 4. Thanks
Well, in that instance the GoPro might fail due to its low light capabilities.
@@PhillipSkrabaI think the ace pro is better from this video. I like to set it manually. I wonder how it does in the cold? Looks like it stays on from your video. What's the battery life like. Got action 3 at the moment. Thanks for the video
The Ace Pro does look a lot better, yes. In freezing conditions it holds up very well. The battery life seems to be better than my GoPro. Anytime!
Would you consider showing the Ace Pro on the Hohem isteady M6? Does it work with the screen flipped up? Do a comparison vs the pocket 3?
I think the stabilisation is so good, day and night, that you really don't need a gimbal, as usually a gimbal comes in handy in low light for action cameras in moments when the stabilisation potentially falls apart, that doesn't happen with the Ace Pro to my awe. I'm thinking of a Pocket 3 comparison, and an iPhone comparison, however those are very different cameras to the Ace Pro.
Is this audio from the insta 360 ace pro?
Yes!
Also, something I've noticed too, we are so focused on the exposure of the foreground which is great but take a close look at the exposure and most of the the detail in the background, here we are against a 12th Gen GoPro, sad, who was that said GoPro shouldn't be worried, they better be lol
It’s quite sad GoPro looks like this, I was sure it would look better.
@@PhillipSkrabaI'm honestly glad you're giving this a second chance and I suspect you're going to find more pluses then you will negatives, as for the flip screen you said this will be more of a vlogging camera, I plan to use it for more action then vlogging, just have to remember to keep that screen closed ;) lol
@damench22 I was always going to give it a second chance, I was just testing it. I was thinking last night, hell, this thing has been marketed as an action camera, but it’s closer to a vlogging camera, which is what most people use the Insta, GoPro and DJI for anyway, so that’s how I’m going to treat it. Whilst looking it that way people want from camera to social media in high speed with minimal workflow, so I’m testing it now in that mindset.
@@PhillipSkrabanice that toi finally understood this, I was surprised how you seemed not honest when comparing it with action 4.
I will bought my first action cam, I ordered the gopro 12 but 2 days after I discovered this new ace pro. I think that I will send back the gopro (which I've not un boxed) and buy the ace pro. Why? Because I want to use it to film my ride in Vtt, in ski, in jet ski BUT ALSO for filming family moments indoor, outdoor, in holidays day and night...like you said : Vlogging
So I thing that the quality in low lighting, the big screen, the nice app, the possibility to pause a video and to continue it, the fast charging are a lot of feature which make the ace pro the best choice to me I think.
I only want to know if the accessories kits which we can find on Ali express are working with the ace pro?
Is it possible to turn off the hdr?
I’ve read that you can, but I can’t find that option anywhere. I’m still getting to know it, I’ll read up on that.
Yeah the ace pro looks better then GoPro, but its not better then Dji Action 4. I think my ace pro arrives tomorrow.
It's so confusing right! The Ace in low light kills it, I have to admit that.
Już wychodzę, już wychodzę 😄.
Pozdrowienia z Wrocławia 👋🏻🇺🇦.
Pozdrowienia z Lodzi!
We were looking for a hero, but needed an ace 😅
BOOM 💥
I think there’s a lot of people bc they watched your last review lol 😂
Lol, glad to see you all back here 🔥
@@PhillipSkraba lol I meant during your walk but all good still 🔥
@@IbbySS. haha, ok, I get you!
That Ace pro looks way better to me.
I can't do anything but agree, it does look a world better.
I must agree… :) Perfect english and idealny polski :))
And yes… you were much more positive/less harsh this time 😅 thanks for that :)
Lol, thanks!
so far i have seen only one! review of Ace Pro that was used on the enduro bicycle.
conclusion! This is not 100% sport cam. for me it's to heavy and too fragile. the risk of losing the back screen is high 😱
I see it more of a vlog camera than an action camera, that being said, I can think of one good use of the screen on a bicycle. When I use my GoPro or Action camera on my bike, I position it and have a hard time seeing the screen, with the flip screen it might be easier to view when riding, just a thought, I'd need to test it out.
There's no comparison. At least in low light. Ace Pro wins hands down. The GoPro is showing more jitter, while the Ace Pro has a smoother background behind you.
I fully agree, the GoPro falls apart, they need to play catch up.
I have problems with flickering lights on ace pro.you can see that on my channel.I try everything and still doing it.Dont know how to fix
Thanks for the honest video Ace pro video much better then go pro and less noise and clear video.
You’re welcome!
The ace is clearly better. I find my one rs dual 1 inch shines in these two ways also...but that's where it stops.
I agree, the Ace killed it here.
The Inst blew the GoPro out of the park
Yes, yes it did.
I bought the Insta a couple of weeks ago, returning a recently bought GoPro12 in order to do so and dont regret it for a second. I took it to an indoor shopping mall at the weekend and in Pure Video mode the footage was so stable with no jittering at all. The ability of the camera to handle the streetlights of your video and not be blown out like the GPH12 was just confirmation that i had made the right choice - thanks for a great video
@@FootprintPhoto I'm as blown away as you are, trust me! Thanks!
Hero 12 is so grainy. I have the same problem with my hero 9 black at night. Even at sunset the gopro 9 struggles if it's moving.
It's true, it's a problem.
This comparison is like day (Ace Pro) and night (GoPro) difference literally..😅
Yes, it blows it away I’m afraid.
GoPro minimal flares, great.
Why do you compare these two cameras at night? Obviously, Ace Pro would be better because they have a bigger sensor. You should compare them in the day
I did, didn’t I?
@@PhillipSkraba where? In this video? I didn't see it
This is the low light video, this is the daytime video - ua-cam.com/video/ZwsWPdrfhCM/v-deo.htmlsi=EbpBOWARTddci4YZ
GoPro is losing big time at low light.. in the end I got Pocket 3. 😅
Yes, GoPro really does a bad job in low light.
No nie ma porownania. Gdyby niewymienny obiektyw kamera bylaby na moim stole jutro.
To prawda, Insta360 zrobili niezla robote z tym low light.
gopro was kickassed, obviously. My eyes most of the time looking at Ace Pro side.
😎😎
Jesus 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I’ll be honest, I don’t use my 12 at night. The GoPro isn’t as good as the ace pro at night. I’d rather have a log profile and 10 bit colour.
To be honest, I don't either, well, maybe on the odd occasion. I'm doing these tests for my own knowledge and to help you guys out. I think this is really more of a camera aimed at vloggers, people who want the footage fast to share on social media for example, so I'm guessing that's why we're missing Log and 10-bit in the Ace Pro.