Once again, a huge thank you for spending the time creating these "stupid things" for adult enjoyment. The endless creativity in shell design, between viewer submitted and self created, is absolutely amazing. 💯% Fun to watch.
"Adult entertainment "? In my opinion this is appropriate for all ages; some of the adult jokes they make would go way over the heads of any children watching.
@@taofledermaus I would've watched this 12 hours ago when you uploaded it, but I've been on flood watch from the man induced Squall screaming through Illinois still.
@@taofledermaus How about a Hollow Cored Minnie Ball Type Slug with a Plus Shaped Tungsten Penetrator Tip like that of a .38 Super? Would that be an interesting slug type to try?
Need some more testing of these with some soft targets, really keen to see what these would do to ballistic gel and wet magazines. Would also be cool to see how these work on Danny's lead plate.
I've been unable to find a single video of anyone testing primer-activated exploding slugs on gel or any other soft target. It's frustrating because I really want to know if the primer will go off. Ideally I'd want to see it on gel, meat, and leather.
@@LordDragox412 Maybe, maybe not. That's why I'd expect at least one channel to test it. We see all kinds of unexciting failures in Taofladermaus videos, and that's part of the fun. Heck, even Demo Ranch shows the boring results.
Interesting heavyweight slugs. It appears that at least two of them realized they were on camera in the land of fruits and nuts so they impacted high and left in a classic demonstration if California ballistics. Way to go, Jeff and OG!
It would have been interesting if this slug was shot at a gummy bear to see if the powder ignites on the inside. Also I think going wad-free is the way to go with that slug.
@@bmw328igearhead drop a small nail in the round before loading the powder in so when it hits anything the nail will fire the primer - they're basically tiny pineapple grenades at that point but triggered like an armor piercing round.
@@russellzauner I wouldn't suggest that type of setup, it's possible (likely) that the force of acceleration would trigger the round in the barrel. Let's face facts, you're not likely to use these for home defence. I say, you're an animal if you are... These rounds are the kinda thing you take out to the quarry and have some fun with. No real practical use. Entertainment only. :)
Wierd Trivia: That East German helmet was designed in the late stages of WW2 as a way to cut costs from the Stahlhelm pattern by using a simpler pattern that wasted less steel.
It's also probably the best steel helmet made. No steel helmets were designed to stop direct hits from bullets, must fragmentation or ricochets. The previous stalhelm or the US M1 at best stop low velocity rounds like .45 ACP. The Warsaw Pact helmets have best resistance due to most of their designs incorporating a slope, allowing some of them to stop even higher velocity rounds like 9mm or .357 magnum. The East German however has the most extreme angle, that with the right tempered steel, some helmets have resisted direct hits from AK47 rounds, at the very least, they all stopped 7.62 Tokarev rounds. If anyone doesn't find the Tokarev resistance impressive, just know that some modern kevlar helmets today still can't stop that round. It's got ridiculous penetration capability.
So funny, I just a few days ago thought about how you can achieve a good exploding bullet. One was a hollow slug with a primer in the front. I wondered if the impact on bone would ignite the primer. So cool you made a video about this slugs. 🤩👍🏼 Love your videos guys ✌🏼
I love when you get inventive and put the primers in the front of the Slugs man that's always a good show always love the videos hope you guys and your families are well
Blank pouder works the most explosively, and with a little black pouder mixed in u get some smoke also. I find it works in my 40mm cannon. On an empty 5 gal. Can it had a 40mm (1 5/8") hole in front, there was no back side
@@everythingballistic8812 I'm not sure if tannerite would ignite with a 50 cal. primer, blank pdr. is the fastest burn rate by far of any easy to get pdr. It blew 40 mm lead rds. to pieses usually they perform just like big ass bullets, also I have 1000's of blanks
I remember watching you guys since middle school..now? I’m 19!! I was 11-12 when I first watched you guys and coming from California as well I thought it was cool how you guys took the shotguns to it’s advantage seeing how it’s legal in California to own lots of types of shotguns. I was surprised some of these rounds were even legal here. But with peace and love , me and my friends have loved you guys since 7-8 years ago. And loved the fallout reference ! Another favorite of our group of friends.
Really showing that clear shells are a great thing for any self loader. I'd try magnesium powder mixed into some smokeless for that cavity. I bet that would look pretty cool.
Add a bit of ground up match head for extra gas generation to disperse the burning magnesium some more. The optimal combination could probably give off a big impressive white flash on impact.
Given that the vessel is a thinwalled lead shell, I imagine it's not going to be easy to get decent combustion out of smokeless. Smokeless needs quite a bit of pressure for it to burn properly. You might get it to pop a few times, but most of the energy you put into the charge will just be wasted. The burn rate of black powder isn't pressure-dependent. It'll go bang even if the container is made out of paper.
Funny things happen when your fingers do the walking online. Stumbled upon a blog about deep frying coffee beans. After about 15 minutes of digging and investigation, I am sitting here at midnight, drinking my first cup watching OG and I have to say, this is a game changer. Give it a try guys. I threw mine in an air fryer, 8 minutes on roast at 350. Wow guys. This is bigger than the French press.... sure am glad I’m watching OG on TAOFLEDERMAUS. This video and moment will grind into my mind forever. Wow
38 years old and my life started just now. Deep fried coffee beans... 8 flux capacitors gigabytes being hit with serious authority, 1100-1150ft/s. Fancy
My brother and I, as kids, would meticulously separate the paper on a roll of caps and very very carefully scrape the contact powder out onto a sheet of folded paper. Then we would back fill a .177 air gun pellet and crimped it over to seal them. Made a fun time going out and shooting them at night. They had a similar "crack" to them as a 22 short. It was always disappointing when you'd almost have a whole roll done and get careless and scape on too hard and set off the whole pile lol. A great way to learn attention and patience ha ha.
Lmao, done that a few times then i learned how to make the Armstrong Mixture. All you need is a few books of matches and some 93% alcohol. Don't have to use the alcohol but it makes it safer and makes filling the pellet easier and safer. Just let it dry all the way before using. Sounds like a large firecracker.
What we really need is someone both with the access to, and is insane enough, to try shoving something more powerful in the slug. I wonder if they make a primer strong enough to activate c4 but small enough to fit on the end of that.
Primers aren't particularly strong but they are sensitive. Which is why they are used to detonate more powerful but less sensitive explosives. What would make this basically a miniature grenade is a small but substantial main charge. I wonder what the legal requirements are for such a round?
A thin sliver of quartz... If it could survive the firing without shattering or putting off a charge might be able to set it off At that point you are firmly in ordinance lab territory of legality, where you need proper legal stuff.
If you could get those to stop tumbling, slip a .22 long rifle round into it, you would have the perfect gift that keeps on giving. A bullet that shoots back at the shooter.
I wonder how a small steel rod would do in the center, possibly put some glue in the cavity to fill voids and secure it, would it act like a penetrator? First thought was steel shot inside, extra fun times for the target. And I'll agree, I prefer seeing the slow motion shots with the regular motion shots so it's easier to analyze what happened on target. I wouldn't mind if you compiled them at the end to pad out run times to make yt happy, as long as they're also where they've traditionally been in the video.
@@adabsurdum5905 they have done carbon fiber slugs with steel cores on this channel, the issue was that the material didn't hold up to the sudden acceleration, I think that the lead would hold up a lot better.
I'm wondering if the surprise in the slugs negatively impacted the balance of the slug (similar concept to an unevenly loaded washing machine) Poor Brandon is definitely gunna feel that in the morning
You guys are so very entertaining!! THANK YOU for what you do!! Been watching y'all for years, and NEVER GET TIRED of watching, and I sure hope you don't get tired of doing it!! p.s. I sure do miss Danny, and know you do to!
One of those slugs shot at a thin metal case filled with tannerite would be awesome, anyways enough of my rambling, awesome video as always Jeff and OG. Still missing Danny
I remember interviewing for a job at the hard drive factory back in the 90's; most of the questions I had to answer on a big greenboard; they just scaled the solutions down a bit for production.
I think that, if you're going to go through the trouble of packing the slug with flash powder or something (capped off with a primer), then you might as well add something atop the slug that can fragment and cause some substantial secondary damage upon impact. Since this is a really large/heavy slug design, I'd like to see a version of the slug that is actually two pieces that stack or thread together. The bottom (base) portion should have a cavity and a hole for the primer, while the top is contoured for aerodynamics. It might need a hardened pin/screw/whatever bedded in the top portion (to ensure primer detonation) but that could likely be accomplished with just the lead. When you get projectiles like that that have cavitation towards the front with a solid rear, it is inherently going to be more susceptible to aerodynamic inconsistencies (like the wobble we saw here.) So if you can move the charge cavity to the middle or rear of the projectile, it will have enough mass forward of the COM that it should stabilize dynamically. Having the charge towards the rear of the projectile can also cause the gasses to push outward on the thinner walls (of the base of the projectile) and expand/fragment while still in the body. When you have the secondary explosion towards the front of the projectile, it will expand/fragment at the back of the target, if not outside in of the body. Basically, moving the charge to the back of the projectile will make it detonate closer to the entry point rather than the exit. That way, the forward momentum of the projectile and secondary detonation carry through the body earlier, increasing overall damage. Now, I've never actually tested this hypothesis myself. I don't really have the resources to conduct such an experiment myself at the moment. But I think that could make for a stellar experiment. In my mind, the internal charge being at the front of the projectile means that it will detonate closer to the exit than the entry, clearing a small hole towards the back upon exit. If you can prime the charge at the same moment, but have the actual cavity positioned at the rear of the projectile, then you'll have the secondary detonation closer to the entry point and have more time after the detonation inside the body for the drag/shock to damage the internals.
Little bit of bullseye and a stud gun 22blank I found yrs ago worked better with the rim hanging over the edge. Be interesting to try gas bottles or a glass of gas. I'm long out of the game so really appreciate all your shenanigans.
I feel like a magnum pistol powder would have a greater effect on target with these slugs, however, black powder should provide a more visually satisfying puff of smoke. I know you are probably the only mainstream guntuber that would do a video on the differences in high speed slow motion of the same slugs, with the same powder load and gas seal, with different powder loads in the cavity.
@@Chris_Garman as someone who hasn't gotten into loading/reloading, I had not considered that fact in my original statement, thank you for the reminder.
These were some awesome rounds. I’d definitely love to see more exploding slugs in the future. Try experimenting with different styles of slugs to make them stable even with an “explosive payload”.
1st off: Thank you for not blaring the background music! 👍 Would to see this hit ballistic gel!! If you get more of these,please consider it. As always, great video!
I'm not a big UA-cam guy, but I've watched your videos for years and thought I'd actually drop a comment and say thanks for all you do. I'm now an official subscriber. Keep it up. Owen.
Another GREAT VIDEO Jeff, thank you for all your great work and thank you OG for always being the comedian, you guys are still the best after being subscribed for 7-8 years who knows but great work!! 💪👊💥
12:34 - how surprising this slug didn't just punch through the helmet! I know those helmets as they used to be really cheap here in Germany and many kids bought them in the 90s just to play with them. I always wondered what this helmet can withstand. By the way - calling him Brande(o)nburg was just perfect :-D
Fun fact, those *6* boxes you were pointing to on the back of the drive are for power delivery. Ya know, on the pcb board (but I like green board too) And yes, they're platters.
What are the size requirements for a slug to run properly through a barrel of a shotgun? And how can you tell if slugs can be safely shot through a shotgun? I was looking at guns in a pawn shop one time and they showed me a gun that appeared to have a buldge 2/3s down the barrel that I assumed was a failed attempt at shooting a slug down the bore. Your videos are great to watch thanks for the effort and detail.
Jeff and OG mentioned the slug as "La Bamba" which is a wedding song. The title on the video says that it is a " La Bomba." which refers to a bomb or an explosive. Great video Guys!
@@WineScrounger if someone breaks in, they won’t be happy. Especially my house. That’s all I’ve got loaded in my gauge. So, they better get right with Jesus, before they enter my house.
So, a question, and you may have addressed this, and I might have missed it, but wouldn't these shells be a no-no to a certain group? Or, do they not care?
Are you ready for some "serious" firepower? Fill the cavity of the slug with some tritium from a couple old sights. After all, aren't they "nuclear"? The head should pop straight up with a lovely little mushroom cloud that vaguely resembles the penis head shape of that East German helmet.
Lol. I could watch that sloMo headshot on the BrandMeister, with the steel pot getting all bent out of shape, all friggin day long! So entertaining, guys. Great shooting-video and pewpew!
To be more effective, it should have some sort of frangible, hardened metal cylinder inside (the lead is way to soft), and only the outer surface should be lead or copper, so that when it explodes, it will emit lots of shrapnel like a grenade. Another easier way to do it, would be to turn the hollow cylinder on a late out of brass and make it just so that it fits snug in a rifled shotgun.
That would send Mr. Bad Guys spine at least 300 yards down range Me thinks.... I have been watching your channel on and off for several years and you two guys always come up with really cool toys to play in the sun with.....
@@taofledermaus lol.. oh please. Okay I won't abstract this. Rifling in a bore is to stabilize the projectile for consistent accuracy. In your very limited test, it appears to spin. But not in the way rifling would consistently spin the projectile. I would love for you to take 3 different smoothbores and benchrest them using fosters let say at 50 yards to test for accuracy. Then take 3 different rifled slug guns and test them as well. I Will assure you there is not very much consistency with your foster slugs. I didn't get my info from George Carlin. I am a 60-year-old avid firearms enthusiast with firsthand knowledge of hundreds of firearms. My take on what you were saying is that the rifling stabilized the slug. When that is not what the design is for. You would rather assume your correct and in this application, you perhaps are kind of correct. Due to weather barometric pressure etc. etc., you can't make a claim for consistency. Not to mention I see this with one firearm. Your claim is akin to tire manufacturers saying their tires save gas. If you read the fine print Over the entire life of the tire you might save a tank of gas. And they make it sound lucrative. If you spend more for the tire or have a weaker tire it might cost you money and not save you money. As an old avid hunter, reloader and competitive shooter what I am saying is you haven't proved anything. The very little rotation you're talking about most likely didn't stabilize the bullet. However, the drag from the skirt might have. As a pseudo-UA-cam scientist, you might not know this. But as a shooter you most likely do know that every firearm is a rule into itself. I will not make a statement that the little bit of rotation caused it to be more accurate. As you are comparing an apple to an orange when you are comparing different slugs. Nor will I insult you by saying you must have watched some eccentric comedian because you disagree with me. But I will challenge you to use 3 different shotguns with scopes and your precious high speed camera and try different slugs and not only check for spin but also long range accuracy. Because even if the slug design put a bit of spin albeit a small amount. It isn't going to give you accuracy or consistency of spin. I didn't want to be so verbose. However, you replied with an insult. And a lot of people who watch UA-cam are not as educated and take stuff off here as gospel. So I will give you credit for documenting that the resistance to the bore might have imparted a little rotation. However, when you say the experts say and you proved otherwise. I find humorous as some of those experts are actually the manufacturers. Your test proves nothing concrete and the slight spin out of your barrel doesnt equate to better accuracy. Was the rifleless slug you tested it against swaged or cast? Because that alone can be the difference. Thanks for your time. Sincerely , Cheap
I think the accuracy improved on that last shot because it didnt have the gas seal, giving it more pressure to the rear of the slug increasing obturation for a better fit in the bore.
And I much prefer seeing the slow motion right after the shot instead of all of them at the end.
Mee two.
It’s better that way imo, too many other tubers doing the method you mentioned, be different from everyone else.
Agreed. Noticed the change on a previous video. It helps to follow the story of stability with smoothbore vs. rifling.
@E Van too many other tubers doing just that, be different from everyone.
Amen!
Once again, a huge thank you for spending the time creating these "stupid things" for adult enjoyment. The endless creativity in shell design, between viewer submitted and self created, is absolutely amazing. 💯% Fun to watch.
"Adult entertainment "? In my opinion this is appropriate for all ages; some of the adult jokes they make would go way over the heads of any children watching.
thanks!
@@taofledermaus I would've watched this 12 hours ago when you uploaded it, but I've been on flood watch from the man induced Squall screaming through Illinois still.
@@taofledermaus instead of "La Bomba" it should be called "Mister Twister" or "The Tongue Twister" to go with the Adult Theme of the episode 😂😂.
@@taofledermaus How about a Hollow Cored Minnie Ball Type Slug with a Plus Shaped Tungsten Penetrator Tip like that of a .38 Super? Would that be an interesting slug type to try?
Need some more testing of these with some soft targets, really keen to see what these would do to ballistic gel and wet magazines. Would also be cool to see how these work on Danny's lead plate.
I've been unable to find a single video of anyone testing primer-activated exploding slugs on gel or any other soft target. It's frustrating because I really want to know if the primer will go off. Ideally I'd want to see it on gel, meat, and leather.
@@Bacteriophagebs You don't see those videos because the primer doesn't go off, which doesn't make for very exciting videos :P
@@LordDragox412 Maybe, maybe not. That's why I'd expect at least one channel to test it. We see all kinds of unexciting failures in Taofladermaus videos, and that's part of the fun. Heck, even Demo Ranch shows the boring results.
@@Bacteriophagebs seconded
@@Bacteriophagebs check out 1ShotTV he has done some of that!
Officer Greg is the best stand up on the web. Take a bow OG. Where else can you get good content and comedy with no commercials. Keep it coming Jeff.
still can’t express just how awesome it is that jeff makes multiple references to the fallout series in his videos.
And now the tv series the ghoul uses this round basically
Unc is with the shits
Jeff: "It smells like something... like burnt something..."
OG: "yeah, teen spirit"
Cracked me up hahahahaha
lol
I couldn't handle Teen Spirit deodorant. Gal was once trying to get frisky after school. I had to pass. It didn't really smell very good.
Kinda like really cheap perfume.
I was thinking the same thing right before OG said it.😱
Now I'm worried about my mental health.🤪
@@joshuagibson2520 metalica reference my guy :D
Interesting heavyweight slugs. It appears that at least two of them realized they were on camera in the land of fruits and nuts so they impacted high and left in a classic demonstration if California ballistics. Way to go, Jeff and OG!
Guided anti cali voter projectiles🤭
Dude fist bump for brilliant comment
LOL...
Pretty damn good
California Ballistics. "high and left" yeah sounds like scientific accuracy to me!
It would have been interesting if this slug was shot at a gummy bear to see if the powder ignites on the inside. Also I think going wad-free is the way to go with that slug.
Less likely to trigger the primer... soft things aren't great for setting them off. Gotta strike something hard (like a bone)
"humane self-quarterising round"
@@bmw328igearhead drop a small nail in the round before loading the powder in so when it hits anything the nail will fire the primer - they're basically tiny pineapple grenades at that point but triggered like an armor piercing round.
@@russellzauner I wouldn't suggest that type of setup, it's possible (likely) that the force of acceleration would trigger the round in the barrel.
Let's face facts, you're not likely to use these for home defence. I say, you're an animal if you are... These rounds are the kinda thing you take out to the quarry and have some fun with. No real practical use. Entertainment only. :)
The slug with attached wad may be too long for the shotgun rate of twist. Minus the wad, its shorter and hopefully more stable.
Wierd Trivia: That East German helmet was designed in the late stages of WW2 as a way to cut costs from the Stahlhelm pattern by using a simpler pattern that wasted less steel.
It's also probably the best steel helmet made. No steel helmets were designed to stop direct hits from bullets, must fragmentation or ricochets. The previous stalhelm or the US M1 at best stop low velocity rounds like .45 ACP.
The Warsaw Pact helmets have best resistance due to most of their designs incorporating a slope, allowing some of them to stop even higher velocity rounds like 9mm or .357 magnum. The East German however has the most extreme angle, that with the right tempered steel, some helmets have resisted direct hits from AK47 rounds, at the very least, they all stopped 7.62 Tokarev rounds.
If anyone doesn't find the Tokarev resistance impressive, just know that some modern kevlar helmets today still can't stop that round. It's got ridiculous penetration capability.
And they make you look and apparently act like a human dick head.
М 56 был разработан в 1942 году. Это был совсем не поздний этап Второй Мировой войны.
@@reeyuh526 М- 56 не выдерживает прямого попадания пули АК- 47. Можете провести эксперимент.
So funny, I just a few days ago thought about how you can achieve a good exploding bullet. One was a hollow slug with a primer in the front. I wondered if the impact on bone would ignite the primer. So cool you made a video about this slugs. 🤩👍🏼
Love your videos guys ✌🏼
I literally LOL'd when OG turned around with the dented helmet on. This was another fun filled educational episode. Thanks gents!
lol thanks
Right?? 🤣🤣🤣
Worth it just for OG in the helmet
@@taofledermaus rvrrrrrrrrrv
@@rickwinters5740 I'm not fluent in Klingon
I would be lost if OG didn't explain the science. Thanks guys!
Plus, the bonus science! I sure didn't know that silver cage thing was how the computer caught the Wi-Fis. TIL! Thanks OG!
Who knew that he was a compooter sciencer?
Yeah OG gave me a crash course on computer technology I never knew I needed to learn! 🤣
I love when you get inventive and put the primers in the front of the Slugs man that's always a good show always love the videos hope you guys and your families are well
thank you kindly!! !
Blank pouder works the most explosively, and with a little black pouder mixed in u get some smoke also. I find it works in my 40mm cannon. On an empty 5 gal. Can it had a 40mm (1 5/8") hole in front, there was no back side
Did you make the cannon? I've been wanting to make one
My cannons are made from surplus navy 40 mm 1 5/8) & 76.2 (3")
You could use Tannerite and then it would actually detonate. Or some other stable high explosive.
@@everythingballistic8812 I'm not sure if tannerite would ignite with a 50 cal. primer, blank pdr. is the fastest burn rate by far of any easy to get pdr. It blew 40 mm lead rds. to pieses usually they perform just like big ass bullets, also I have 1000's of blanks
@@thomasschwab1727 I made them with the use of friends machines. I also made 5 black powder mortars 3 fire bowling balls, there a lot easier to make
You guys always manage to do the coolest stuff with shotguns! Thank you for the knowledge and entertainment
Shotguns? You mean mass accelerators?
thank you Rex
I'm waiting for them to accelerate a shotgun with a shotgun. I suspect full rifling will be required.
@@NoTimeForThatNow that’s exactly what I was about to say
I remember watching you guys since middle school..now? I’m 19!! I was 11-12 when I first watched you guys and coming from California as well I thought it was cool how you guys took the shotguns to it’s advantage seeing how it’s legal in California to own lots of types of shotguns. I was surprised some of these rounds were even legal here. But with peace and love , me and my friends have loved you guys since 7-8 years ago. And loved the fallout reference ! Another favorite of our group of friends.
thank you!!
With peace and love I shoot my load!
Right? Easily a 7-8 year viewer here.
you can get an insert or literally any type of round that will come out of the bore if you want to shoot other calibers thru them too
@@taofledermaus hey bro, have any clue what that superhuge hard disk was, not sure ever seen one of these !!!
Wow! Epic video guys!
Wonderful shooting and slow motion impacts. Glad Gregg still has his original shoulder. Very impressive slug "calibration" Jeff!
Thank you Saar
I think you misspelled, Saar, it's "californication": high and left ;-)
@@koljya :) Lol...
I used to tell my students that computers run on smoke...When the smoke comes out they stop working...LOL...
The impact around 5 minutes is hands down the baddest ass thing I've seen on this channel
The primer tip is one of best load tricks ever. I will try my 209 primer load in Elmer's glue next week. Should be epic. Thanks Jeff. Your awesome.
Really showing that clear shells are a great thing for any self loader. I'd try magnesium powder mixed into some smokeless for that cavity. I bet that would look pretty cool.
Add a bit of ground up match head for extra gas generation to disperse the burning magnesium some more. The optimal combination could probably give off a big impressive white flash on impact.
Given that the vessel is a thinwalled lead shell, I imagine it's not going to be easy to get decent combustion out of smokeless. Smokeless needs quite a bit of pressure for it to burn properly. You might get it to pop a few times, but most of the energy you put into the charge will just be wasted. The burn rate of black powder isn't pressure-dependent. It'll go bang even if the container is made out of paper.
Flash powder with chopped steel wool ;)
how about thermite?
@@badideagenerator2315 Only if the gun is in a sled.
Funny things happen when your fingers do the walking online. Stumbled upon a blog about deep frying coffee beans. After about 15 minutes of digging and investigation, I am sitting here at midnight, drinking my first cup watching OG and I have to say, this is a game changer. Give it a try guys. I threw mine in an air fryer, 8 minutes on roast at 350. Wow guys. This is bigger than the French press.... sure am glad I’m watching OG on TAOFLEDERMAUS. This video and moment will grind into my mind forever. Wow
38 years old and my life started just now. Deep fried coffee beans... 8 flux capacitors gigabytes being hit with serious authority, 1100-1150ft/s. Fancy
1:05 "And today we'll be filling that cavity with all kinds of goodies for you."
Last time I heard that, I was auditioning for an "Art Film".
Greetings TaoFlederFolks, this is one of the best channels on UA-cam for shotgun lovers.
thanks Wilson
Great video. If y’all get more, I would love to see a comparison shot between sploding and not sploding in gel or clay.
My brother and I, as kids, would meticulously separate the paper on a roll of caps and very very carefully scrape the contact powder out onto a sheet of folded paper. Then we would back fill a .177 air gun pellet and crimped it over to seal them. Made a fun time going out and shooting them at night. They had a similar "crack" to them as a 22 short. It was always disappointing when you'd almost have a whole roll done and get careless and scape on too hard and set off the whole pile lol. A great way to learn attention and patience ha ha.
ive done that same thing but with cart oil lmao, two hours and one good high gone
Lmao, done that a few times then i learned how to make the Armstrong Mixture. All you need is a few books of matches and some 93% alcohol. Don't have to use the alcohol but it makes it safer and makes filling the pellet easier and safer. Just let it dry all the way before using. Sounds like a large firecracker.
What we really need is someone both with the access to, and is insane enough, to try shoving something more powerful in the slug. I wonder if they make a primer strong enough to activate c4 but small enough to fit on the end of that.
Primers aren't particularly strong but they are sensitive. Which is why they are used to detonate more powerful but less sensitive explosives. What would make this basically a miniature grenade is a small but substantial main charge. I wonder what the legal requirements are for such a round?
I was always taught that c4 required an electric ignition source. Not sure how a promer would accomplish that
@@reaper_exd7498 I'm sure the engineers will figure it out.
A thin sliver of quartz... If it could survive the firing without shattering or putting off a charge might be able to set it off
At that point you are firmly in ordinance lab territory of legality, where you need proper legal stuff.
@@reaper_exd7498 C4 will detonate due to a significant percussion and heat source
LOL! That takes me back to the days of the Velet “exploding hollowpoints” (yes, I brewed a few of my own inside .44 slugs).😄 Great fun!
Does OG realise how brilliant and dark that teen spirit reference was! That was as smooth and accurate as Briannas shooting
If you could get those to stop tumbling, slip a .22 long rifle round into it, you would have the perfect gift that keeps on giving.
A bullet that shoots back at the shooter.
I didn't expect to see the helmet vibrating like that especially after it took that dent.
Awesome video, really showed that improvement with the rifled barrel. Excellent work!
thanks Chris
I have always appreciated the use of Doom II tracks behind Jeff's narration.
Another great vid, TY Jeff and OG.
If you grind the flake into fine powder it burns faster and more thoroughly for a bigger more energetic pow.
I wonder how a small steel rod would do in the center, possibly put some glue in the cavity to fill voids and secure it, would it act like a penetrator?
First thought was steel shot inside, extra fun times for the target.
And I'll agree, I prefer seeing the slow motion shots with the regular motion shots so it's easier to analyze what happened on target. I wouldn't mind if you compiled them at the end to pad out run times to make yt happy, as long as they're also where they've traditionally been in the video.
4:00 Beldar Conehead????😝
Make that glass shards in the cavity.
I really want to make a slug that has a steel core like what youre talking about. Seems like it would have wicked performance
@@adabsurdum5905 you can or you can use steel/brass slugs with a sabot. You want higher speeds with less mass though. Since speed is key.
@@adabsurdum5905 they have done carbon fiber slugs with steel cores on this channel, the issue was that the material didn't hold up to the sudden acceleration, I think that the lead would hold up a lot better.
I'm wondering if the surprise in the slugs negatively impacted the balance of the slug (similar concept to an unevenly loaded washing machine)
Poor Brandon is definitely gunna feel that in the morning
It is possible
@@taofledermaus could another factor be the scattered powder from the factory loads caused an uneven + delayed burn and resulted in the wobble
Yeah, no one better than OG's inner 12 year old to make a video "for a mature audience".
"Won't even hold the sound in" 🤣
-Yeah 😂🤣 To Much BOOM‼️
You guys are so very entertaining!! THANK YOU for what you do!! Been watching y'all for years, and NEVER GET TIRED of watching, and I sure hope you don't get tired of doing it!! p.s. I sure do miss Danny, and know you do to!
Awesome! Thank you!
One of those slugs shot at a thin metal case filled with tannerite would be awesome, anyways enough of my rambling, awesome video as always Jeff and OG. Still missing Danny
Never put reactive targets in any metal container. This includes Tannerite. Even rocks on the range can turn into projectiles.
Especially at close range, a plastic container is even dangerous.
Love the GRA New Vegas shoutout you did there
Okay wait, and the Doom music.
Can you do a stream?
Officer Gregg, a nostalgic metalhead , grunge fan to be more exact ! 😊
People are so constituted that everybody would rather undertake what they see others do, whether they have an aptitude for it or not.
I remember interviewing for a job at the hard drive factory back in the 90's; most of the questions I had to answer on a big greenboard; they just scaled the solutions down a bit for production.
Thanks for yet another enjoyable video. The helmet shot was really neat. The hi speed camera footage is always fascinating. Thanks again.
thanks Bill
When I saw the helmet, for a moment there I thought you were finally allowing Brandon to take a shot at the steel plate
I think that, if you're going to go through the trouble of packing the slug with flash powder or something (capped off with a primer), then you might as well add something atop the slug that can fragment and cause some substantial secondary damage upon impact. Since this is a really large/heavy slug design, I'd like to see a version of the slug that is actually two pieces that stack or thread together. The bottom (base) portion should have a cavity and a hole for the primer, while the top is contoured for aerodynamics. It might need a hardened pin/screw/whatever bedded in the top portion (to ensure primer detonation) but that could likely be accomplished with just the lead.
When you get projectiles like that that have cavitation towards the front with a solid rear, it is inherently going to be more susceptible to aerodynamic inconsistencies (like the wobble we saw here.) So if you can move the charge cavity to the middle or rear of the projectile, it will have enough mass forward of the COM that it should stabilize dynamically. Having the charge towards the rear of the projectile can also cause the gasses to push outward on the thinner walls (of the base of the projectile) and expand/fragment while still in the body. When you have the secondary explosion towards the front of the projectile, it will expand/fragment at the back of the target, if not outside in of the body. Basically, moving the charge to the back of the projectile will make it detonate closer to the entry point rather than the exit. That way, the forward momentum of the projectile and secondary detonation carry through the body earlier, increasing overall damage.
Now, I've never actually tested this hypothesis myself. I don't really have the resources to conduct such an experiment myself at the moment. But I think that could make for a stellar experiment. In my mind, the internal charge being at the front of the projectile means that it will detonate closer to the exit than the entry, clearing a small hole towards the back upon exit. If you can prime the charge at the same moment, but have the actual cavity positioned at the rear of the projectile, then you'll have the secondary detonation closer to the entry point and have more time after the detonation inside the body for the drag/shock to damage the internals.
Diabolical
A bit late to this party, but I've got to say OG is the epitome of the "square cop" who's really too cool for skool 😎
Classic IT lessons with OG!! All the gigs!
Little bit of bullseye and a stud gun 22blank I found yrs ago worked better with the rim hanging over the edge. Be interesting to try gas bottles or a glass of gas. I'm long out of the game so really appreciate all your shenanigans.
You guys are having way too much fun.
I feel like a magnum pistol powder would have a greater effect on target with these slugs, however, black powder should provide a more visually satisfying puff of smoke. I know you are probably the only mainstream guntuber that would do a video on the differences in high speed slow motion of the same slugs, with the same powder load and gas seal, with different powder loads in the cavity.
Having only a primer for resistance and not much of a seal, no smokeless powder will be useful.
@@Chris_Garman as someone who hasn't gotten into loading/reloading, I had not considered that fact in my original statement, thank you for the reminder.
.22 sensitive tannerite and a ramset blank instead of a 209 primer
I did the same with 357 mag. They opened up like a beer can . Brings back memories.
Greg’s computer tutorial epitomizes “securitization through obfuscation”. 😂👍🏼
These were some awesome rounds. I’d definitely love to see more exploding slugs in the future. Try experimenting with different styles of slugs to make them stable even with an “explosive payload”.
Fun fact: "La Bomba" means "The Bomb" in Italian.
I thought it was bombalini
La bomba is spanish
I can't believe fallout new vegas got a mention. Arguably the best game ever made.
I think you meant to say “objectively the best game ever made”
*definitely
Now I want to see a Taofledermaus mod for shotgun ammo in Fallout New Vegas, and then watch Zach from Mikeburnfire talk about them all in Gun Rant #5
You'd have more likes if that were true.
@@True-Patriot and yet, no one likes you.
1st off: Thank you for not blaring the background music! 👍 Would to see this hit ballistic gel!! If you get more of these,please consider it. As always, great video!
I'm not a big UA-cam guy, but I've watched your videos for years and thought I'd actually drop a comment and say thanks for all you do. I'm now an official subscriber. Keep it up. Owen.
Thank you Owen for the kind words.
Another GREAT VIDEO Jeff, thank you for all your great work and thank you OG for always being the comedian, you guys are still the best after being subscribed for 7-8 years who knows but great work!! 💪👊💥
thank you Dewey
Dig dug,. Lol. Thanks for the memories O G,. It's crazy when he said that brought back the memories of the arcade circa 1983.😀
You should have sent the hard drive to a Data recovery company for a laugh!
-They’ll Be Like “What Happened To It” 😩
12:34 - how surprising this slug didn't just punch through the helmet! I know those helmets as they used to be really cheap here in Germany and many kids bought them in the 90s just to play with them. I always wondered what this helmet can withstand.
By the way - calling him Brande(o)nburg was just perfect :-D
lol thanks Thomas
I appreciate your constant, attentive, and tasteful work in pushing the envelope
thanks
Two of the greatest scientific minds to ever shoot stuff at things!
I was sure these wouldn't work out, but am very impressed they did.
I was relieved they worked at least through a rifled barrel
Fun fact, those *6* boxes you were pointing to on the back of the drive are for power delivery. Ya know, on the pcb board (but I like green board too)
And yes, they're platters.
I would have enjoyed seeing ballistic gel... But Good vid just the same!
What are the size requirements for a slug to run properly through a barrel of a shotgun? And how can you tell if slugs can be safely shot through a shotgun? I was looking at guns in a pawn shop one time and they showed me a gun that appeared to have a buldge 2/3s down the barrel that I assumed was a failed attempt at shooting a slug down the bore. Your videos are great to watch thanks for the effort and detail.
The size of the barrel isn’t a concern as much as the size of the choke. You want to use a cylinder bore although a modified may be safe.
Jeff and OG mentioned the slug as "La Bamba" which is a wedding song. The title on the video says that it is a " La Bomba." which refers to a bomb or an explosive. Great video Guys!
9:05 That's a serious OG helmet/wok !! Love it bro .
Those look like they’d be more for home defense.
In case you get attacked by a house?
@@WineScrounger really home a phobic
@@WineScrounger if someone breaks in, they won’t be happy. Especially my house. That’s all I’ve got loaded in my gauge. So, they better get right with Jesus, before they enter my house.
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s a good one
So, a question, and you may have addressed this, and I might have missed it, but wouldn't these shells be a no-no to a certain group? Or, do they not care?
The powder weight is well-below the limits for a destructive device.
@TAOFLEDERMAUS I didn't even think about that at the time of writing that. I completely forgot that. My bad
So in other words. This slug is a shaped grenade.
The glacier came alive as the climbers hiked closer.
the bots have arrived
@@taofledermaus I'm sorry you were wrong. I'm not a robot
The slow motion impact on the helmet was amazing!! Great video guys!!
thanks!
That helmet was priceless to see on OG. He is great
The OG has got to be the only cool LEO in the US
Thanks Kevin. There are two or three of us.
I know there is a law that states only one per county.
I worked beside you guys as fire medic for years.
One of the funnier recordings of OG. Loved it. Thanks guys. Rock on.
Glad you enjoyed it
Not sure why this video popped up in my UA-cam recommendations, but I definitely stayed for the humor, the shooter is hilarious 🤣👍
Hmm....I happen to know JUST how old you have to be to think of Gladys Knight when "The Platters" is mentioned, LOL.
If I'm ever down or just need a pick me up, I watch your channel and you never fail to make me laugh my ass off.
Thank you
thanks Nick
Officer Greg seems to know his tech stuff.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
The helmet survived. Have your powered buggy cart you into battle after a hit like that, talking about how "We're all friends again."
In 1970 I was building these things black powder works good too. The shotgun primer is helped with a bb glued in the center of the primer.
“Smells like something.. burnt” “yeah teen spirit” lmao
Some plastic wads and gas seals are designed for straight sided hulls, while others are designed for tapered wall hulls. It pays to read labels.
Are you ready for some "serious" firepower? Fill the cavity of the slug with some tritium from a couple old sights. After all, aren't they "nuclear"? The head should pop straight up with a lovely little mushroom cloud that vaguely resembles the penis head shape of that East German helmet.
Smashed up tip was the name of my ska band back in college.
At one of my first jobs we had a co-worker that we all called Stealth Penis
Lol. I could watch that sloMo headshot on the BrandMeister, with the steel pot getting all bent out of shape, all friggin day long! So entertaining, guys. Great shooting-video and pewpew!
I need an entire mini-series of Greg on the street explaining any piece of technology you hand him
Difficulties are things that show a person what they are.
To be more effective, it should have some sort of frangible, hardened metal cylinder inside (the lead is way to soft), and only the outer surface should be lead or copper, so that when it explodes, it will emit lots of shrapnel like a grenade. Another easier way to do it, would be to turn the hollow cylinder on a late out of brass and make it just so that it fits snug in a rifled shotgun.
I loved it, extra thumbs up for Greg's sass in the end.
Well done fellas. Insightful and entertaining. Your antic's are the shit!!
thanks Justin
That would send Mr. Bad Guys spine at least 300 yards down range
Me thinks.... I have been watching your channel on and off for several years and you two guys always come up with really cool toys to play in the sun with.....
The disc changer in the slo-mo had a cool burst of blue smoke as it tumbled over the first time.
The rifled slugs dont spin in a smoothbore. The rifling on the slug is actually to facilitate it through the choke in the barrel to reduce pressures.
LOL oh please. We proved they spin with a high speed camera. You're watching too much George Carlin
@@taofledermaus lol.. oh please. Okay I won't abstract this. Rifling in a bore is to stabilize the projectile for consistent accuracy. In your very limited test, it appears to spin. But not in the way rifling would consistently spin the projectile. I would love for you to take 3 different smoothbores and benchrest them using fosters let say at 50 yards to test for accuracy. Then take 3 different rifled slug guns and test them as well. I Will assure you there is not very much consistency with your foster slugs. I didn't get my info from George Carlin. I am a 60-year-old avid firearms enthusiast with firsthand knowledge of hundreds of firearms. My take on what you were saying is that the rifling stabilized the slug. When that is not what the design is for. You would rather assume your correct and in this application, you perhaps are kind of correct. Due to weather barometric pressure etc. etc., you can't make a claim for consistency. Not to mention I see this with one firearm. Your claim is akin to tire manufacturers saying their tires save gas. If you read the fine print Over the entire life of the tire you might save a tank of gas. And they make it sound lucrative. If you spend more for the tire or have a weaker tire it might cost you money and not save you money. As an old avid hunter, reloader and competitive shooter what I am saying is you haven't proved anything. The very little rotation you're talking about most likely didn't stabilize the bullet. However, the drag from the skirt might have. As a pseudo-UA-cam scientist, you might not know this. But as a shooter you most likely do know that every firearm is a rule into itself. I will not make a statement that the little bit of rotation caused it to be more accurate. As you are comparing an apple to an orange when you are comparing different slugs. Nor will I insult you by saying you must have watched some eccentric comedian because you disagree with me. But I will challenge you to use 3 different shotguns with scopes and your precious high speed camera and try different slugs and not only check for spin but also long range accuracy. Because even if the slug design put a bit of spin albeit a small amount. It isn't going to give you accuracy or consistency of spin. I didn't want to be so verbose. However, you replied with an insult. And a lot of people who watch UA-cam are not as educated and take stuff off here as gospel. So I will give you credit for documenting that the resistance to the bore might have imparted a little rotation. However, when you say the experts say and you proved otherwise. I find humorous as some of those experts are actually the manufacturers. Your test proves nothing concrete and the slight spin out of your barrel doesnt equate to better accuracy. Was the rifleless slug you tested it against swaged or cast? Because that alone can be the difference. Thanks for your time. Sincerely , Cheap
2:42
Jeff - “it smells like something… burnt something”
OG - “Teen spirt”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think the accuracy improved on that last shot because it didnt have the gas seal, giving it more pressure to the rear of the slug increasing obturation for a better fit in the bore.