Was Christopher A Rat? - Soprano Theories
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What do you think about this theory? There is certainly evidence there to support it, after all, Christopher could not stand Tony and his behaviour, mannerisms, and actions towards Christopher. Between poking fun at his drug problem, fighting the urges with drugs and alcohol, and choosing to side with Tony over Adriana, maybe Christopher realized the mafia lifestyle is not for him anymore.
Let me know down below 👇🏻
I dunno. Fuckin' slander, ask me.
It was done recently by Cineranter. The only convincing element is the murder of the cop. That was never really treated in the show. Still, it's weak all around.
You have either lost your mind, incredibly reaching, or not that bright to begin with. If they had Chris, why would they bother with Adriana? End of subject.
Do you know when sopranos con is?
@@JagerLange If it was me this kid was spreading rumours about, he'd have something on his own head. And it wouldn't be no hat either.
He had the love of his life murdered for being a rat. No chance. In the end of course, his loyalty to Tony cost him his own life. That’s the guy, my uncle Tony. The guy I went to Hell for.
Always with the scenarios...
No he was gonna join her in witness protection 100% until he saw his potential future with that broke couple, a bunch of needy kids fighting over chips and there furniture strapped to the top of there pos falling apart car. He didnt at all have her wacked cause she was a rat. He had her killed because he didnt wanna live life broke.
Chris cost Chris his life
I came to say exactly this. No way was Chris a rat.
His addiction got himself killed not his loyalty
He was no rat ! I don't wanna hear this word here again !
The sudden hat?
Were you his mother?
@@chrissythompkin720 it was to show that he changed
@@chrissythompkin720
Look, here's a couple a dollars....why don't you go out front, get yourself a hat, any kind you like, huh?
I see what you did there!
HE DID-ENT !
Fvckin' slander if ya ask me!
Love and miss you, Paulie. RIP
To think, this show ended long ago and we are still studying and analyzing it. Proves the greatness of the show.
20 years.
Watching for the first time. Great scenes but overall writing DOES NOT hold up.
@@nameunavailable1330you’re a stunad of the first magnitude
well it’s really cuz we were left with nothing but unanswered questions
It's because no series had that much of a pull on culture. Everybody saw it and has a say in it. Americans, italians, british... everybody knew somebody that mirrored a character in the show!
Also, it was a drama, yet had some of the best comedic pieces in the early 2000's. The main characters was a mob boss, yet, was relatable as a family man, a father and a husband.
There was never a dull moment, bad writing for more than 30 seconds or a bad soundtrack ruining a scene. The show was flawless. There is maybe 3 or 4 series that can be considered a top 2 show ever. But in my opinion, nothing has ever topped this
Despite everything, you can never forget how much being a wise guy meant to Chris. His father being a legend in the scene to the imaginary grandeur of being a "soldier"; Chris was groomed into the lifestyle. Being a successful member of the mafia was important to him and he ultimately made a choice by choosing to kill Aide.
but remember that he had also talked about turning a few time throughout the series to Aide and JT Dolan. he wanted to be a Hollywood gangster. he wanted to be a gangster like he saw in the movies as opposed to what being a gangster really is. he enjoyed the money, women, the violence and all the notoriety he could get but hated almost everything else about the mob life. he hated taking orders, hated the responsibilities and lamented traditions like the low man having to pay. then there's the hat. massarone had a wire in his hat and Chris hadnt worn one since the first episode. personally I dont think that he was and the hat was a nod to the first time we saw him in the series but I do think theres enough to stop and make you think for a second.
Chris grew disillusioned with the mob and his uncle, but he had nothing else to fall back on and in the end was stuck in the life.
“I’m a soldier Adrianna.”
Yeah, but he wanted out. He was trying to get in the film stuff and that’s what he was doing. I don’t think he was around either. I need Tony may have been in the end though maybe that’s why I got a plug
Though only thing is that Chris thought he would get the rewards and more importantly, the respect (especially from Tony) that never materialize.
Chris was no rat, he wasn’t even close people think he was close because of ade but in reality as soon as she told him he knew what had to happen that’s why he got so upset right there in that moment , Chris was real deal cosa nostra and if it wasn’t for the drug thing (whatever happend there) he would have been the most power and respected member of the family on second to tony
Agreed
@@ivanmiranda5181 how can you not include Gino from the bakery on your list of favorites??
@@Mosi100 I loved him like a brother in law
Agreed if he has been around in the 50's or 60's he would have been a respected legend, he really took la costra nostra to the heart, he lived more than most people around him did.
@@DarkLordofTheSith69 yeah then he did something that made me feel like I been stabbed in the hart!
Chris looking around and not looking anyone in the eye at the meeting, was because he was high. He was wearing the baseball cap, because they wanted to mirror the first scene we see of Chris driving Tony, to the last. This was suppose to be symbolic. That Chris had no arc and really never changed from the start of the series. He didn't rat on Tony. But yes, he would.
Let me guess, you also know exactly what happened when the screen cut to black?
Oddly enough, when Tony said “a rat probably died in the wall” it reminded of the song he and Christopher was listening to before the truck flipped. Comfortably Numb on Pink Floyd’s album, The Wall.
very observant, the sacred and the propane.
Oh yeah. Nice catch.
Holy shit.... Good catch
The cat looking at the wall, and it being a rat in the wall thing feels like a way for tony to excuse his actions as he always does. "He was probably a rat anyway," "He probably killed the horse," and he almost talked himself into killing Paulie the same way.
Look at him staring at that dead kid, it gives me the fucking creeps.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. oooh Paulie, whattaya hear whattaya say?
Blah blah blah.....
exactly, he does all this stuff on impulse and then comes up with a story later. didn't he look at a picture of Tracee after Ralphie died, like he did it for her? yeah, no. I don't think Christopher was a rat
@@paulie-Gualtieri. remember when is the lowest form of conversation....
Christopher wore a cap in the very first scene he appeared in, where he and Tony chased and ran over that guy. Chris was a young man then and during the series Tony, wrongfully since Chris was not a person to depend in, invests more and more hope in Chris, who disappoints him over and over again. But Tony's biggest problem is nepotism.
The cap and the line from the song "The child is grown, the dream is gone" (Melfi points out that Tony always talks about Chris more like a son) is simply a nod to the first scene and Tony finally realizing that there's no hope left. He uses the baby seat as an excuse, a way to justify killing Chris for being a liability to his daughter, as is pointed out later in that study that Melfi reads, about the criminal sociapath's sentimentality for babies and pets.
Also, If the feds would wire a guy as close to Tony and his New York-business as Chris, it would be a dumb move to put it in a cap which could easily fall off - the hospital staff takes care of the cap after Chris has died, we see Tony noticing the cap among Chris' remaining things.
Jackie Jr wore a ball cap in a flashback scene. I think they just put caps on them to make them look younger. And the first episode Chris is supposed to be the young up and comer hes just Tony's driver. he's wearing a ball cap to make him look younger
Totally agree! Throughout the series Tony has this irrational loyalty towards those he considers to be his blood family. His mother, to Junior and especially to Chris. Throughout the series Chris would undermine Tony and he would do so in front of other members. That lack of respect would get anyone killed in that life, but not Chris because Tony protected him for no other reason other than nepotism. Chris was always an achor to Tony, which had nothing to do with his drug use either.
.... also, Chris murders that screenwriter guy in the episode before Tony kills him. I highly doubt Chris would murder someone in an unprovoked attack if he was working with the FEDs, regardless of being wired or not.
On a side note, it boggles my mind when I see Chris get as much fan love as he gets, because it's completely undeserved. He may be the only character with no redeeming qualities. He was one of the biggest fools in the family, he was abusive towards Adrianna... he's a pure psychopath. Tony for example is a bad person and a killer, but Tony does have the ability to empathize... Chris does not... and he's not even good as a member in the mafia. If he wasn't such an entitled disrespectful member I could see him being a hitman in the family, but he's no earner.... he's a gargantuan fool.
im with you i think people are reading too much into the hat for a wire. i think the hat was a symbol of not only his youth but how far he had regressed in his "arc" going from car driver, to prospect, to acting captain, and finally captain. basically how hed become less of an asset who knows maybe that what tony thought also and got rid of him. i used to think chris wasnt a rat but i think they had him pinned like altieri and big puS, so i dont think he had started cooperating with the feds but i do believe they pulled him in on that murder and possible intimidated the crap outta him like euguene...we will never know. anyway have a great day!
That cap had Cleaver on it, maybe he wasn't rat but Tony seeing that cap was another insult to him, knowing he fantasized about killing him, it probably was one more thing that pushed Tony to shut up his natural canopy
@@dinglbarry1275Yes, people crying and say that Christopher was a victim but they forgot how he abused Adrianna and killed in cold blood so many people that didn't deserve it- Email Kolar was just young nephew of Kolar family garbage management, a cokehead but no criminal mastermind, that cop he killed in cold blood although he wasn't sure he killed his father, the waiter with Paulie and JT. Not to mention he almost killed Little Paulie who was just little dumb but he just listened orders from his uncle Paulie so didn't deserve so harsh punishment.
After having watched the series again, and seeing Christopher's downfall and his disillusionment of life in the Mafia, from what happened with Adrianna to his relationship with Tony B and Tony S, and finally his penultimate episode where he sees his so called friends for what they really were, I have no doubt in my mind that Christopher either became a rat in that final episode, was considering becoming a rat, was considering joining a different crew or was even contemplating taking his own life. In any case, by that final episode, his relationship with Tony is irreparable. There is no love or loyalty between the two.
You're right he WOULD RAT, but he definitely didn't rat in the end of the series. When he killed JT, that was his decision 'he's not going to rat'. We got the answer, with a gunshot to JT.
Why Chris was wearing the hat, was because they wanted it to be symbolic to season 1 (first time we see Chris and he's driving Tony), to the last time we see Chris, to driving Tony. Why would Chris wear a hat? Maybe because he was high and wanted to disguise that. But he wasn't wearing a wire.
Chris had no reason to rat. He wasn't caught in a murder/drug wrap. He's not going throw away a luxury life, just because he hates Tony (which he does). Chris will always choose Chris first. BTW, if Chris was a rat, when the wreck happen, and the hat was off. Wouldn't have Tony seen a wire? There wasn't any. He wasn't a rat. No mention 'oh no, we found a wire'... Nothing. I don't even think this scene was even made for us to wonder he was a rat.
He showed signs of weakness and disloyalty before he was even made and his work ethic and reliability only improved if he was rewarded. He put people shit in the mob. You cant talk shit about college then go to that college and claim to have full loyalty.
Yes an with the hat he never wore one, jack maserone did an he was a rat he was ratting
@@PaulSimpson-qo3bwthe hat theory, picture on the wall, etc. these were just David Chase’s ways to make you think just like Tony did. Tony was 100% like his uncle. Paranoid insecure narcissist
In light of recent humiliations, it’s nice to be joined by men
He was not a rat but could have became one down the line and I feel like he regretted not ratting Tony out and entering witness protection with Adriana. He could have gotten into screen writing and told his life story.
The Sopranos didn't have secret storyline's going on that they didn't show us except for maybe what happened to Tony in the last scene of the show.
I think Christopher goes back to using drugs near the end because he realizes he is kind of on the outs with the guys, his sobriety isn't respected by the guys and he is seen as a wuss and killjoy(at least when it comes to abstaining from drinking) and is now in the Mafia half heartedly at this point resenting Tony.
He was in his marriage half heartedly too only because he knocked Kelly up and Adriana was still the love of his life. He went back to drugs to self medicate because he was stuck between a rock and a hard place and he couldn't deal with the "regularness of life" as he mentions in an early episode.
Ironically, he is in his current situation only because he didn't rat.
This sounds like the comments of a rat
@@waydecarney4031 good one man. You are a true stand up guy and gangster's gangster. 😂
Without even watching this ... no.
Not a chance, right? Maybe if they had offered to hook him up with a screenwriter gig in the second season, but not after that.
I think part of Chrissy's entire "ark" was that he was fiercely loyal throughout the entire series, it would be out of character for him to be a rat or flip at the end imo. Chrissy being an addict was always hanging over Tony's head that someone too weak to get off drugs was surely weak enough to be flipped by the feds too. I think Tony was more worried about the actual snitch Paulie Walnuts who cost him a lot of money running his mouth to Johnny Sac. He was thinking about doing him like Big Pu$$y on that boat 😂
I think the same thing. Paulie could possibly have been a rat. I've always been mixed as to in what way was Paulie a rat. Was he secretly working with the NY crew or was he working with the FEDS or both. It is odd when the NY family picked the 3 biggest jersey guys to put hits on, they skipped over Paulie and choose Bobbie instead, without even discussing Paulie And as we know Paulie was trying to get in good with the NY crew both when he was in jail and as soon as he got out of jail... why would the show bury that storyline, unless they decided to keep it a mystery. If Paulie was working with the FEDS, he would have been working with them from the time he was released from jail.
Perhaps Paulie was working with the FEDs and Paulie was their NY inside guy. We know that the one FED dude tells Tony that they have a guy on the inside of the NY crew... we're never told who this guy on the inside is, but this person would have to be in contact with the top guys, given he knew about the hit on Tony.
Tony's instincts were to kill Paulie on that boat and he almost did. The irony is, that by not acting on those instincts is what potentially led to Tony's demise.
Somebody's been watching Kino...
I’ve always felt this same way that Chrissy flipped in the end for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. The murder of JT was pretty sloppy and JT’s wife witnessed Chris make a late night drop by and assault on a previous visit. It wouldn’t take long for the FBI to piece together what happened and give Chris the extra push to cooperate or else. Side note, Tony’s comment that “a rat died in the wall or something” not only has the obvious reference, but also “Comfortably Numb” was playing which was originally from Pink Floyd’s “the Wall” album. I know the actual song they were listening to was a remake but still found it interesting and possibly another hint from Chase.
It was a version from the Departed soundtrack too, which is a movie all about undercover informants and dirty cops (love that movie)
So another reason to hint at Christopher turning informant
Chris was one of the realest most loyal members in the crew, next to sil Chris was as real and loyal as it gets !
Chris was wearing the hat bc it was his last appearance (like his first appearance.)
Also he was acting weird, bc he was high. Fuckin stoonad
He was on coke, that isn't hanging offence in The Sopranos- Furio, Ralphie, Paulie, even Tony sometimes used cocaine.
It's hard to become a coke addict, and here in Europe and in US rarely is cocaine very good and clean as it is in South America( there you get 90% pure stuff), here from 40 to 70, it depends, it is better than before
"A rat died in the wall" the Song Chris was listening to right before he died was The Departed's version of comfortably numb (a movie centered around rats) from the the album The Wall. Like the final scene where Don't Stop Believing by Journey is cut-off, Tony's journey cut short.
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Pretty good!
Do you have an Up in Da Club theory?
There is a 0% chance he was a rat. If he were, the FBI would not have wasted their time with Adriana. They also sat around waiting for her to bring him in right before she got clipped. This makes no sense at all whatsoever.
0% sounds a little excessive. If their prized snitch Adriana disappeared after that time and money they invested, I'm 100% positive they would approach Chris about it, and even lie about evidence in order to witness and assess his emotional response to the accusations.
Your comment implies that the entire series takes place in the same day.
This theory would imply that he flipped at least a year after Ade died. If I have to explain this any further to you, idk what I could even say
Ong bro
He was good with the guys back then its after killing jt he became a rat the hat says it all
What’s really sad is Tony wasn’t worried about Chris potentially dying from being an IV heroin addict he was just worried about himself.
I figure that Christopher might eventually have ratted out Tony, but Tony killed him first.
Tony would rat too if he was arrested for serious crime, not in the first seasons but in the last season he didn't even pretend that he cares for anybody but himself, but i think he saw in season 6 that he was totally beyond redemption so that's why he behaves so gross and autodestructive, he contemplates about killing Bobby, Hesh , Paulie , became a degenerate gambler, doesn't care anymore about his guys, his arguments with Carmela become more and more vicious , i think that subconsciously he wanted to be killed
He killed Chris cuz of him being high again. Tony never once killed him cuz he was thinking Chris was a rat. All that looking at him in the car while Chris is driving is cuz Chris keeps dropping hints he’s high
Chrissy was no rat. He had a drug problem that cost him his life. He should have stayed off the drugs and Tony would have called 911 to save him...he was too much of a liability as Junior pointed out back in season 1.
Chris and Mikey were the only two characters who didn't need to be reminded they were gangsters.
No way in HELL he snitched.
Mikey? WTF is Mikey???
@tedwojtasik8781 A Mikey is a guy who promises to not shoot you down if you can fly and gives 100$ to stay quiet lol.
Chris was considering running to the feds paulie and everyone mocked his daughter. Also had Ade been able to get pregnant i’m sure he woulda left the mob life and ran away with her.
There were hundreds of made guys, captains, even bosses in REAL LIFE who were tougher and much more ruthless than Chris, nobody was ever thinking they would snitch but they eventually did , so is stupid assuming that fictional character like Chris could never be a rat. I mean , Eugene, Carlo, Ray Curto,Big Pussy, Jimmy Petrile, all hardened mobsters and killers in The Sopranos flipped so you can never say he would never flip
@mariozd971 I know. Backstabbing is a lost art except with people like these.
Hell, there's a video where a guy makes a solid case Georgie had Tony whacked lol.
The second his girl told him she was talking to the feds he got her offed foh Chris a og
Tony has a way of being right about things for the wrong reasons
if my memory serves me correctly Chris was trying to turn the music up, not down before the wreck. i think my biggest question is how did Chris go from getting openly drunk in front of Tony to going to high level meetings with NY?
well, I remember there was a time when he waited in the car (Johnny sack voice)
He got bumped up
@@waydecarney4031 he wasn’t a shine box character any longer.
@@jaywalkercrew4446 haven't you herd?? I don't shine shoes no more. I know you been gone awhile didn't ya hear I don't shine shoes no more
@@waydecarney4031 love the shine box characters. Just gotta go to get the paper to get the paper.
the ending of that episode where chrissy drunkenly fixes his tree and yard with 4hat song get me everytime chrissy farewell, cheers sopranos fans
While I myself don't see Christopher as a rat he certainly fits the profile of an easy target for the FBI and there is the foreshadowing to the hat as you point out that to avoid Pat Downs informants will wear hats so that's pretty interesting thing to consider that maybe in his final moments he actually did flip but we never got a confirmation so we can debate this
The cleaver hat, is probably a sign of perhaps the biggest reason why he got killed.
Making the movie alienated him from the crew, and the outcome of the movie itself, basically manifested his own fantasy of murdering Tony.
Given that symbolism is very important throughout the series, I'd go with that
I think there's definitely interesting arguments to be made both ways but that hat is a very interesting clue with all of his behaviors and how he was being treated by the end.
Regardless of him being a rat or not he was such a liability that his death was pretty much guaranteed
No he wasn’t. He told Tony immediately when Adriana went to the feds
By the time of Kennedy and Heidi, it's pretty clear that both Tony and Christopher are more or less fed up with the mafia lifestyle and and are clearly just going through the motions.
I think Christopher was seriously considering flipping when Tony killed him and may very well have flipped in another few days or weeks had he lived but had not done it yet.
That's my take on it.
The hat gave it away cris never wore a hat
Chris was the real deal.. it was his drug addiction that brought him down...imagine him not returning to drugs.. Tony likely would have named him as successor
I kind of had a sense of something like this was happening. I just finished the series an hour ago and yesterday I saw the episode where Chris dies. Along with Chris being a liability not to just his own family but to business as well because of him starting to use drugs again, there was a tiny, very tiny inkling in my head as he was being killed off.
My brain autocorrects to Christafuh.
I always though Chris was anxious and darting his head around to represent him being high on cocaine (the drug that's found in his system when he dies). The fiddling with the stereo and turning it up louder is also classic coked up behavior. The Cleaver cap, to me, was reinforcement of the introductory scene to Chris where we are introduced to a much younger version of him. The cap also reinforces Tony and Chris' broken relationship, as it's a cap representing the "Cleaver" film, which was emblematic of their relationship breakdown.
Interesting to interpret it in another way. But think Chris was so close enough to Tony that verbal testimony in a court of law would have held up in a court of law (as it has in similar legal cases e.g. Sammy The Bull's testimony against John Gotti). Would personally say Chris hadn't flipped yet, but was bound to flip soon as his murder of JT Dollan was sloppy, and people in neighboring apartments would have easily heard it.
Chris hadn't snitched yet. However, he was bound too soon. Not that I can really blame him, with Tony sidelining him and repeatedly shaming him, after he had the love of his life murdered to protect Tony.
Chris knew where are corpses of Ralph and probably some others, it would be enough to get Tony in the serious trouble.
But you think that Chris deserves our empathy after all he had done? Killing of so many people, like the waiter and JT, something Tony would never do, even killing of Emil( Email ) Kolar, he was in the shady business but he wasn't some ruthless gangster, just young guy like Chris at that time who loved drugs. And his betrayal of Adrianna because he wanna live luxury life is the final nail in his coffin
After that Joke about his Daughter he definitely wudda Rated on Tony
7:45 - holy shit. "Maybe a rat died in the wall."
Comfortably Numb, they song that was playing when they crashed, is from the album "the wall" and is about drug use. I never noticed that connection
As much as I'd like to believe Chris wasn't a rat because he seemed to idolise the gangster lifestyle, I think he suits the profile of a rat in some ways.
One, he always threatened to reveal his life in memoirs, screenplays etcetera. Two, he always questioned whether his loyalty in Tony was misplaced or not or whether "this Thing of ours" had meaning. In a lot of ways, just like Pussy.
Let's face it. Did we ever hear Silvio or Paulie consider ratting to the feds? Or Bobby Baccala?
The series had been hinting at the possibility of Chris flipping since the very beginning. Chris' entire story arc was about whether he should commit to the life or search for his own outside of the family. Chris chose the family and regretted that decision in more or less every single scene after he made the choice.
Chase and Winter masterfully eluded to the possibility of him flipping throughout the series and left it up to our imagination whether he really did or not.
I loved Chris as a character and would hate to imagine him ratting. But the way he got disrespected by Tone for trying to clean up his addiction even after he chose him over the love of his life.
May have been the straw. 🐫
No way. Haven’t even watched the video but c’mon, Long Term Parking solidified his loyalty.
the way he hugged him during the baptising ceremony. It really felt like I was hugging my own nephew.
Chrissie could have been flipped by the Feds for a number of things such as killing that cop or even JT. The baseball cap is very suspicious, often used to hid a wire by the Feds and it wasn't part of his normal MO, so I'd have to think Tony was on to him and had the perfect opportunity to take him out with the car crash!
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I dont think Christopher would of been slick enough to be a rat. He was still new to the Mafia way of life.
All valid points. You got me thinking now
No way, he was the most loyal, except Silvio maybe. Chris was mafioso to the core.
i feel him opening up about "one phone call" is him drunkenly trying to find excuses to "how good he is" due to his loyalty. That he deserved better.
Christopher was no fucking rat!!!! He was too loyal and too loving of what he did! Plus Tony brought him up right and taught him all his ways! He was well watched by the guys!
Me I think Christoper flipped in the episode when Tony got charge for that gun charge. Everyone was at the house expect him, and tony noticed.
Found the Gun , stupid kid was shotting it , and shown it off.Chris was not around , because he did not like being around guys, because of his vices.
After Christopher was killed,Tony focused on the hat in the hospital,and later the picture of Chris hanging up in the back of the Bing was of him wearing that hat. Probably red herrings.
Introduced my other half to the Sopranos a couple of weeks back and she’s hooked - on both the series and your videos. Great content dude!
Pls keep making these
If he was an informer chris's character would've had to be a world class oscar caliber actor with yoda levels of self control to pull it off without being found out.
His inability too control himself when he's stressed angry or high/drunk is what would've gotten him caught because he'd have almost certainly either spilled his guts while he was off his face on some intoxicant or he'd have blown a gasket at someone and let his natural tendency too run off at the mouth when he's upset would've taken over.
not a rat. the clever hat was a reminder of the rift between them, not a mic. the looking away and the jitteryness was the coke in his system.
Why don’t I remember that stairwell scene in Walk Like a Man?
No. Don't Break your Arm Reaching..😆
Chris did enough work for and with Tony to have him jailed forever, the fact it never happend says he's not a rat.
That scene with the hat now reminds me of the simpsons epidode where Homer is wearing the spyhat in "Homer and Apu".
Homer: Don't be alarmed, Apu. Just go about your daily routine like I'm not wearing the hat.
Could be because Christopher NEVER wore a hat before in the serious maybe with exception of when he was hiding from Phil Leotardo. Usually a hat symbolizes a rat.
It was the Cleaver hat which has much more symbolism, plus he was high. A hat can make you feel like your "hiding" when you're high. Adds a layer of "protection" and can literally feel like he is hiding his eyes or face at the right angles during times of paranoia.
This crossed my mind when I saw the hat and the bloody clothes when Tony was in the hospital. I was thinking what if Tony looked under the hat and it was wired like Jack Masorone's
I'm pretty sure he would have turn the music down not up if he was going to try and get info out of Tony in the car
So if the people writing the show never thought of this, can it still be possible? (That goes for a lot of videos like this.)
The cat looking at the wall and the cap are pretty convincing when else did he ever wear a cap and alluding to that arizona guy that's some dialogue I may have missed.
Paulie Walnuts probably gave info to NY to whack Tony.
great theory christopher was not a hat guy at all and he was acting strange ,david chase didnt tell us everything lol
Yeah, Chase was either trying to make us think he was a rat, or telling us he was a rat.
Anyway, 4 dollars a pound
Nope, the scene is supposed to be symbolic. The first scene we see of Chris, he's wearing a cap driving Tony. Just like here, Chase is trying to tell us, with Comfortably Numb playing. Chris never changed. He's the same guy he was when we first met him. Chris was right, he had no arc. And Tony's looking at him realizing the dream of him ever being what he wanted him to be is dead. Gone.
100% yes. Even if he wasn’t. I’m sure he would have become one or revealed that he had been a rat. IF the show had continued for more seasons. He wouldn’t have been killed off. And the most interesting direction for the character going forward would have been that of betrayal.
Christopher was no rat. His downfall was being loyal to Tony.
A big hole in the theory though, is when you mentioned how he was adjusting the car volume. Yes, but he was RAISING it not reducing it. You wouldn't raise the volume if you wanted to catch Tony saying he did something.
Coke induced fidgeting
Is this a re uploaded video? I swear I saw this months ago? That or I’m going looney.
You missed the biggest sign, him wearing a cap 🧢, just like Maserone. The mic was in the top button. Chris’ hat was very suspicious and out of place
Great theory
3:24 That mugshot on the wall is from a young Frank Sinatra
I honestly wouldn't blame him if he did
Something a rat would say 🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀
Also, you forgot that they were listening to the soundtrack to The Departed, which in nothing more than a movie about rats.
A RAT he wasn't a junkie he was
So much gourmet food for thought with the Sopranos.
He wasn't a rat, he was a human being. So insulting.
It’s possible but i dont think he had flipped by the time he dies but the incentive was certainly there
He definitely "flipped" the SUV while listening to The Departed soundtrack.. a story about rats/moles.
I don't think Christopher flipped. When he goes to JT hurting and he starts talking about the government program, it immediately makes me think of the number of times he needed to vent to Adriana in their apartment. He no longer had Aid. He's giving it a try with Kelly but as he said to Juliana "She has no idea who I am" Aid was with him from rising associate, made guy and the future leader of the family. He can't vent to his wife in that manner. In my view, telling JT that he could bring them all down with one phone call is the same as when Tony was protecting Tony B after an unforgivable act as well as Tony mocking his sobriety and not caring that he had a wedding to pay for. He says he could take Tony out easily which as Tony's closest family member in the business he could do but knows such an act would require a lot more planning than just killing Tony. Both times Chrissy needed that feeling of power when he waa hurting before eventually cooling down. . Ultimately, just like he sided with Tony when Aid revealed everything. I don't think he had any real intention of flipping. After killing JT and just before the crash he's back with Tony at an important meeting with Phil. Somehow he seemed to be trying to get on with things. Tony saying "Is today the day one of my best friends is gonna dime me to the FBI?" I think that's a reference to Junior saying "If the feds get him in this condition who knows what he's liable to say"? Which had to be in Tony's mind a lot. Chrissy is spot on with his assessment of Tony being the worst kind of enabler though. Offering a drink with one hand and judging you with the other if you take it.
Christopher made a lot of mistakes but in the end, he was doing his best to manage his sobriety with some slips, build his family and manage his career. Ironically, he was much more worthy of his position in the family by S6 B than S4. But Tony was far from the forgiving uncle he was in S4 by then
Him lamenting to JT about how he is not appreciated and how he could bring it all down is just another example of Chris' blowing off steam. He does that several times with Adriana, and tells her on more than occasion that he wants to leave the life. When the opportunity presents itself, he doesn't take it and gets her killed.
After Ade's death, he had no one else to share these thoughts with until JT. Then he followed pretty much the same pattern; blow off steam, complain about Tony, but this time when JT doesn't fully support him and comfort him like Ade did, he just kills the guy.
I really don't think what he said to JT is any evidence he was going to flip.
I also think the fidgeting and the cap were due to the drug use. The fidgeting because drugs like coke can have that effect, and the cap because he was trying to cover himself up and not make it so obvious to Tony or the others that he was high.
I just realize that what about Christopher's dealer? Dealer got caught told them that he sells to Christopher dealer wear a wire and Christopher is caught on tape maybe
This feels a little like click bait, there’s 0% chance Christopher was ever a rat.
Christopher was no rat. He was messed up on drugs but not a rat.
No way he had too much love and respect for "this thing of ours".....even was cool with his live getting wacked
If anyone was a rat in Tony's crew it was Paulie. Paulie used to tell Johnny Sacks everything going on in Tony's crew and play both sides against each other. Paulie acted loyal, but his actions said otherwise.
Credit to Cineranter for coming up with this theory.
I am watching this and I just noticed that Chris in the photo being looked at by the cat is wearing wires via headphones......just saying
When Paulie said his daughter would be working at the Bing and everyone laughed at him, I knew he was done.
It is entirely possible that he cooperated to take down Tony. Chris resented him with every fiber of his body. Even his new life wasn’t good enough for him as he felt disrespected and treated like an outsider. The source of his frustration was one man and even someone as dumb as Chris could come to admit it to himself.
Chris always wore hats even from season 1 so he wasnt wired
His wore a hat twice the first episode and his last episode
Chris was probably a rat :
1/ The cat was, for me, a reference to "Pussy" , and Paullie said that the cat was a snitch (like Pussy was)
2/On the picture that the cat was constantly looking at, Chris wore headphones (just like when FBI agents are wiretaping)
3/ Chris wore a cap during a meeting like Jack Massarone (as said in the video)
4/ They are listenning the Departed soundtrack in the car when they had the accident (the Departed is about a cop who goes undercover in the Boston mob)
5/ In the Christopher's script "Cleaver" , he unconsciously illustrate his willing to betray Tony even after his own death.
in regards to the last line… do you think he gave the Feds information, before he passed
@@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork For me, it"s a possibility, yes.
@@simonfonmarmitz5415 the Feds probably had somebody at the AA or the substance abuse meetings.
Chrissy: “all on the government tit”
Christopher flipped for sure, look at how well David Chase told us Tony killed Hesh’s woman through symbology. Chase is the king of hidden meaning and symbology.
Hesh's girlfriend Renata died from a stroke. She wasn't murdered by Tony. And the author of this video is also incorrect when he states Jimmy was a rat. He wasn't and was mistaken for Pussy who was the rat.
Yeah, I think he was. The orange voodoo cat in the last season would sit and stare at Christopher's picture for hours. And when Paulie moved it, he went right back and stared. It wasn't the abstract shapes, Tony. Also, I noticed recently rewatching the series that when Adriana knew the jig was up and tried to escape Sil, she crawled really fast on all fours -- like a rat.
Dante means hunter an lercerva means deer sorry bad spelling
I always thought it was weird when he wore the Cleaver hat to the meeting with Tony and Phil but wrote it off but this video is having me re-think... and I have to accept the possibility he was... but I always took it as Tony's paranoia with Chrissy
I think Tony would of been more likely to rat than Chris. Tony loved his family, thats the kinda guy the feds go for.. Chris had a daughter, but he basically had no family.
Tony was a rat, he got information on Phil from the FBI. He colluded with the enemy for his own personal protection and gain
Owwww!!!
Tony Soprano would never flip.
You're crazy!