Kangana cast a spotlight on Subash Chandra Bose, but real story of the INA is hidden in the shadows
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In 1941, Imperial Japanese intelligence officer Fujiwara Iwaichi set about building an Indian National Army - sparking off a tangled story involving nationalism and treason, as well as heroism and deceit. Was the INA a nationalist force, or a tool of Japanese imperialism? What happened to the Indians who Subash Chandra Bose persuaded to serve Nazi Germany? And should the INA be a model for modern India?
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Saying British Indian army fought against Nazis is naive and legitimizing the British colonial rule. Same way it is naive saying INA allied with Nazis and the Japanese imperialist regimes. Start viewing things from India's point of view not West's. Hitler was a monster but wasn't Churchil too a monster, how about the US who killed innocent Japanese using nuclear weapons.
It's not naive. It's propaganda. Look at his title: "Real story of the INA is hidden in the shadows." And his conclusion? "I don't know for sure but Netaji might have been a Nazi". He's just fermenting lies. I am sure his family is filled up with people who served the British for bits of bread. Sellout.
well said
100% agree!
Well if japanese did not want USA to attack them then shouldn't have attacked Pearl Harbour.Japanese were relentless in their quest for domination . If India was attacked by an army wouldn't we hit back with all our might .Not starting wars is basically what is wisdom but the USA seems to have forgotten it after WW2😢
Subhas Chandra Bose did his best with whatever or with no resources at all.
With all the pain he suffered in his life and after his life , he is greatest of all.
A man whose life is enigma and death is mysterious , independent India missed him the most.
Ghandhi, Nehru got Indian independence just by transfer of power on British terms , and not but anything like overthrowing British empire by force.
Three hails for whatsapp university! It has finally produced a zero who is singing the praises of a nazi. Yup, subhash bose was a nazi who was married to a nazi woman (emilie schenki). Do you have no shame in praising a nazi even after knowing the atrocities they committed??? Wow!!! Indians have really lost their minds if this is the state of the average to below average Indian. Anyone who praises bose is a nazi. Jai Hind!
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Logic has died after reading the last line.
Thank God we faught , basically , without arms
Good overview, but missing an important piece of the story. The first INA under Mohan Singh collapsed because of friction between the Japanese and Indians. Mohan Singh and leaders of the Indian Indepence League were imprisoned by the Japanese. Subhash Bose was then brought from Germany to revive the INA. Among reasons for the collapse- Tokyo's refusal to sign the Bangkok Agreement, and the premature sending by the Japanese (without knowledge of their Indian partners) of 20 agents from a secret INA Spy school in Penang- all agents were captured. Details in my book 'The Swaraj Spy' (Harper Collins Nov 2022).
The collapse and revival of the INA I'd crucial because it reveals tensions and arguably the attitude of the Japanese towards the INA.
“India is the keynote to the world edifice and a free India spells the destruction of imperialism throughout the world. Let us, therefore, rise to the occasion and make India free so that humanity may be saved.” ~ Subhas Chandra Bose
India got its independence because of Netaji and his INA.
Why are we stuck in an idealistic view not only of our history?
I think it President Charles de Gaulle of France who said "France has no friends, only interests".
I am sure Subash Chandra Bose and other INA leaders had something like on their minds. Subash Chandra Bose had the necessary pragmatic and realpolitik approach to his “policy” with Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
In long run, how this “policy” would have worked I don’t know.
A very brave man. Events and fortunes were heavily against him. His political views were clear and diametrically opposite the morally compromised views of MK Gandhi. Gandhi ‘won’ and so he and his acolytes are feted and idolised to this day.
Kangna Runout should not be the measure of what should be discussed in modern India
Ok,But Neither Feku Gandy or Lusty Lehru should also Not be the Measure to Scale India's Achievements since Gandy Delayed India's Independence and Lehru Destroyed India's Economy
@@nomulahemanth Gandhi and Nehru have achieved a lot and done a lot more for this counntry then Kangana Ranaut has. You wouldn't have done much better in his place either.
Agree. Kangana is a below par citizen. But Kangana is far more accomplished than Rahul Gandhi or Sonia Gandhi.
@@nomulahemanthYeah and Only Hindu Mahasabha fought for Indian Independence by colluding with the British and Making government with Jinnah and Muslim league.
Only Shyama Prasad Mukherjee was a great hero, who was part of a division supporting the government and suggesting the British on how to crush the 1942 Quit India movement.
And Golwalkar was fighting for Indian independence by not doing even a Dharna.
@@greenrico10
What Nehru did?
Ok Gandhi did a lot
Don't be a boot licker of Nehru
One sided annlysis. Indeed.Let me categorically point out
1) Collective left meaning what? Netaji(also Founder of a Leftist party named Forward Bloc ) didn't consider or recognize CPI(the so-called left) as a leftist organization.
2) Netaji dictated every soldiers of Indian legion of war not to participate any program of war beniffiting either British oR German. Even he further cautioned Hitler that attacking Soviet(Operation Barborossa)would be a catastrophe and a sabotage one.
3) Azad Hind Government was recognized by both fasist and communist regime (Azad Hind has a embassy in Omask city in Soviet)
4) Japanese massacre in Andaman. Who said that? Certainly Britishers and the people that had belittled tolerance towards Netaji.
4)Pawn of Japan! How dare you to say.in that time first impression was raised he was active collaborator to Hitler. Later it became unadulterated truth who did. Yes Netaji took help but everything on conditions. He repaid some of the portions.
Have you ever read Netaji wrote a letter to Ghandhiji in 1944 with a titke "American Imperialism is coming "? You could have found japanese mentality towards India's freedom movement.
Baw Ma, leader of Burmese national movement once asked Netaji whether Japanese would be next aggressor after Britishers being forced out. He directly said to Baw Ma he would fight then.
First research then speak.
I think you need to stop spluttering, stop reading Whatsapp forwards from YNW and listen to PRaveen Swamy. You might actually learn something but I am not betting on it.
@@ravinw8. Learn from The Print, really!
@@RajaNSingh-ig5yw GO READ! STOP READING WA FORWARDS FROM YNW! FFS!
@@ravinw8 Ha ha! Not on WhatsApp! Only read books by honest historians, not Romila Thapar’s or Irfan Habibs.
The British left India fearing the wrath of INA
Today’s historians judging Netaji’s antiques and actions. Limiting Netaji’s legacy to ‘India’s Furher’ is very short-sighted. Travelling to enemy countries at the peak of WW2 to round up Indian POWs seems like an impossible feat if you think about it now - he managed to do that back in 1940s, rallied the INA without any proper communication channels, mostly through word of mouth.
Netaji struggled for Indias independence.He desrrved to be the first Prime Minister of India.
.But because he was not rich as Jawaharlal.Nehru he was betrayed buy J Nehru and was declared.dead. But to me he is livimg.and still serving.the country. He does not like corrupt fake people
.and he will give replyto all the loers who enjoy. High post and ruinong the country
A story of someone who tried, tried to get resources but in the end failed , I am also awed by big powers having control everywhere, glad India is what it is now
@The_Print! It's Subhash Chandra Bose, Not Subash Chandra Bose! Please correct.
True that. A grown up story of INA and not too different from any armed conflicts that was not written up by the victors alone. Perhaps it is time to put together a grown up story of Gandhi and Nehru and how Nehru created the almighty propaganda to be the only person contributing to Indian Independence. The story of Gandhi and Nehru has so far been left to the likes of Romila Thapar and they have painted that with a fantastic emotional brush without letting facts get in the way. I would like some grown up handling of the history of our independence especially post 1935.
100% agree.
Netaji gave our freedom not by the real indirect war criminals Gandhi and Nehru in the WWII. They were puppet and slaves of the British Raj throughout their lives. They claimed that Netaji was a war criminal hiding in Russia under the protection of Stalin in a letter dated 27Dec1945 addressed to their boss Clement Atlee although Netaji died on 18Aug1945. The fact is published by Amazon worldwide since 18Sept2017 in English and by Notion press since 22June2022 in Bengali. Jai Hind.
The question you pose at the end should be a no-brainer. Salaried British Indian soldiers were not fighting "Nazi-ism". In general, Indians did not have the bandwidth to care about events in faraway Europe when they themselves were a colonized and oppressed people.
1.if jallianwala bag gorkha unit can be part of IA,if soldiers who massacred the INA fleeing soldiers miamed n beaten on the banks of chindwin.Then an acct by few British writers abt atrocities of IA soldiers doesn't inspire me enough....you may have your reasons .
2. Nehru taking oath under Union jack thru mountbaten inspires confidence but pritams lack of Army or SCB declaring himself PM with Indian or Japanese or German help lesser to nehru....what a shame nehru has brought...to the nation.
3. British Indian soldiers suppressing IINA n Indian FF n INA asking British Indian soldiers to rebel against the british iccupation and british masters how can these be compared.
3. The first Indian war of independence '57 saw chg of integrity from Bengal state soldiers to pliable sikh n Gurkha tps....British Colombia provided apt opportunity by sending the sikh families there and in turn obtain unflinching loyalties like killing Indians...
4. Your absolute lack of accts of Indian philosophers n historians reels of colonized mindset.
5. There is enough evidence to hold Gandhi n nehru in contempt as Stooges of British carefully cultivated n planted n glorified by propped up media person like yourself though I don't have anything against the british n you that's how modern wars are.
Absolutely. Unprofessionalism of this guys crops up again and again. And BTW, he talks to his Pakistani friends politely too. How nice. I hate Arnab Goswami. But I like that he skins those foreigners with this words. But this guy... ah too coy and polite for truth. Softy
Yes, you are right. Only Savarkar (for taking pension from the British and not fighting with them after 1920), Golwalkar (not for taking part in anything against the British), Hindu Mahasabha (for making government with Muslim league) and Shyama Prasad Mukherjee (for being in ministry of Pakistan supporting government) are true patriot and should be worshipped.
Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Prasad, etc.. Has done nothing for Indian Independence
@@livesmart5297So being polite is a bad thing?
If ur reference to talk to anyone is Arnab Goswami then what can be said about that.
By the way, when Modi ji went to Pakistan to eat Biryani (veg), I think he was talking to Navaj Sharif politely only.
I don't think he would be shouting.
What Arnab does is called "Nanga Naach".
Well said arvind mishra. The Print editors are still proudly following the legacy of Brown Sahibs. The Britishers id their job too well. Most liberal media of India refuse to look at events from a National perspective, but only view at events from the Western perspective.
Naval mutiny to follow was the outcome of INA
Amazingly well researched and delivered. War, Colonialism and independence struggle cannot be black or white..but grey as you rightly put it.thanks very much for this fast class in history.
Wonderful! Learnt many things I didn't know
Could you list the authors you referred to please? I have Joyce Lebra's wonderful book.
The inspiration for Adolf Hitler's 3rd Reich was the British Empire.
Adolf Hitler attacked USSR because he wanted to create a German version of British India in Russia.
Both Adolf Hitler and Winston Churchill had the same mindset.
The moot point is, why 10 lakh Indians in World War 1 and 30 lakh Indians in world war 2 were fighting for the British, our #1 enemy?
Sgt Major Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was personally involved in the recruitment of Indian soldiers for the British Army during world war one in which more than 100,000 Indian soldiers were killed.
The British rewarded Punjab which sent the largest number of soldiers in world war one with Jallianwala Bagh massacre.
One fact worth correcting- Giani Pritam Singh did not speak at Farrer Park where the creation of the INA was announced to assembled Indian soldiers (separated from their British officers). He had died earlier when the plane carrying him to the Tokyo conference had crashed. That is why we sadly do not hear about this revolutionary after the initial landing in Malaya alongside Major Fujiwara.
Correct. The other person who addressed the gathering at Farrer Park was the (by now self-styled) Gen Mohan Singh. Until a few weeks ago he was a Captain in 1st Battalion 14th Punjab Regiment.
Enjoyed your presentation 😊
Several wrong pictures. The pics shown of Giani Pritam Singh are actually those of Mohan Singh. Also several pics of the Bose INA in SE Asia are shown when you talk of the Indian Foreign Legion in Germany. You may wish to correct.
First Netaji went first to Moscow as he has the grand plan to unite the armies of the USSR, Japan, Germany and India to defeat the British. Stalin could not meet him but wrote a letter of recommendation to Hitler, his ally in 1940. Netaji was against the invasion of Germany of the USSR and wrote a letter to Von Ribbentrop about it. Then he requested to make arrangement to travel to Japan. He went to Japan by a German submarine upto Madagascar and then in a Japanese submarine to Tokyo. At least 50,000 Japanese soldiers gave their lives in Kohima and Imphal alongside 26,000 Indian soldiers of the INA to free India. India got its independence as Clement Attlee said because after the naval revolt of 1946 and revolt in the airforce, the British could no longer trust the Indian army and they could not gather resources to keep India under them.
Excellent!!
Under Lord Mount Batten's Governor Generalship up to 1948, Nehru can not be called as first Prime Minister of Independent India...
Ah, here we go, PM Nehru bashing in full force by a proud graduate of the whatsapp university. Next he will be expounding on the unified theory of dogs that is the german shepherds and the bull mastiffs. Hahahahaha
@@sganjoo1 differ me by facts, not by vintage rhetoric..
@@sb9060 facts? man, you wouldn't know facts if they came and hit you in the face. Your statement clearly tells me that you have no facts. You are just repeating whatever whatsapp university is teaching you on a given day. If they changed their rhetoric tomorrow you will be singing the praises of PM Nehru.
Your statement is that PM Nehru wasn't the first PM of Independent India because Mountbatten was Governor General till 1948. The first election of Independent India was in 1952, which PM Nehru won with a "thumping" majority!!!!
So, beta, go to a real school and get a real education before you get into an intellectual debate about FACTS!!!! Hahahahahahaha
Fantastic explanation.truth as it is explained grey areas, without mixing jingoism.
Very interesting insight. You are right. What the INA really was, is an enigma
Irrespective of issues between Imperial Japan and British Raj, my average mind questions and wonders why all these facts were not included during our basic history lessons about modern Indian history and Independence struggle.
It quite evident and seems that these facts were intentionally kept out of the syllabus.
A masterpiece ,
This is superb..,learned so much thank you 🙏🏼
What is superb?
This story is incomplete without the battle of Singapore. Or maybe that requires an independent series!!
Nice one. There's a bit too much research and data for WhatsApp University though 😀
Hahaha. This Praveen guys is getting insane. He should see a doctor
@@FramesTM I would recommend that you do the same. He seems to have some marbles remaining but you seem to have lost all your marbles. Hahahahahaha
Appreciate if you could sources that you cited on the war crimes by Indian Legion soldiers?
Absolutely insightful enumeration of facts and data that perhaps paints a very realistic picture of what INA was able to achieve and why not if not. Praveen Swami as usual does much more than just jingoistic analysis from the Godi media which its unwavering consumers would find more compelling:)
Well researched drivel intended to salami slice one of our greatest patriots contributions Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose to Indian independence
A sensitive topic discussed with depth and insight. Great job Pravin!
Which insight exactly? Pravin is a fool. This is LAZY and LOUSY. Imagine for a moment Bose doing journalism in independent India. You think Pravin would share the room's oxygen with him? And listen, if you have categorical information proving he was a freaking Nazi, Pravin should do that JOB. Bring that to light. That's his duty. Don't say 'I don't know, he might have a Nazi'. You think this is storytelling? No sir, it's not. Theorise such sensational idea of course, BUT bring it to the public with enough information that you can prove such a thing to the public in an open market. No by hiding behind a screen. But out there while facing people. That's what our leaders did. Don't just insinuate like a coward. Now, here's the thing:
The objective of Indian Army is to protect Indian J&K. Some of them raped Kashmiri women. Does that bring the morality and need for Indian army to protect J&K? Truth is more often simpler than these left inspired conspiracy theories. The objective was British Raj was to use India as resource. Objective of British Indian soldiers was to Get a Paid. Objective of INA was to free India. Objective of Japan was to weaken England by cutting off its colonies. When you litter truth with superficial facts but forget the essentials, you end up in such asinine donkey speak. Stupid. Calls into question your sense of balance. Reality if ofcourse complex. They were sitting in a cabin, reading some books and passing judgments. They were fighting real fights. The world was cruel and real to them.
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The stand taken by Romel not to have deserters to fight along with Germans and Hitler and Tojo had never considered Indians under Mr Bose never considered INA as a force to reckon with.Bose reliance on Axis was a disaster which Admiral Yamamoto himself had said after Pearl Harbour that "they had woken up a sleeping tiger and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Very well researched and narrated Praveenji!
The presentation could have been much better with maps and infographics.
Hindsight is 20x20.
The intent of freedom from the British, can't be disputed.
Enemies enemy is a friend, so there was no better choice than align with the Axis powers, at that point of time, rest is history.
The goal here from Print was to take Kangana Ranaut’s name in the same sentence as Netaji- mission not accomplished. Again
Mr. Sammy’s story telling is captivating indeed. But in this case he has been unduly harsh on Netaji & INA
Praveen Swami's narration style is sublimely captivating.
Just because Netaji and Fuherer both mean the Leader , it does not translate that Netaji and Hitler were or would be alike. What a shame on you Praveen for insinuating that. Netaji was a man who could have been a comfortable ICS officer who threw away those comforts to fight for Indian independence.
What on earth makes you think that Bose was so naive as to believe Hitler or the Japanese were great people. He was just using the principle ‘my enemy’s enemy could be useful to me’ . The rest is all your guesswork.
Definitely INA inspired the Naval mutiny and that did play big part in the British getting nervous about their ability to hold on to India using Indian soldiers against the Indians.
I still believe Gandhiji’s mass movement involving a large swathe of Indians was the principal driver of the Independence movement. But you don’t have to insinuate Bose would have been a Hitler to be able to make that point. Again, shame on you.
PS -
Churchill led British caused the Bengal famine by confiscating all food from farmers where more than a million Indian a died. Anglophiles have to remember that.
Very interesting... Thanks
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This talk is LAZY and LOUSY. Imagine for a moment Bose doing journalism in independent India. You think you would share the room's oxygen with him? And listen, if you have categorical information proving he was a freaking Nazi, do that JOB. Bring that to light. That's your duty. Don't say 'I don't know, he might have a Nazi'.You think this is storytelling? No sir, it's not. Theorise such sensational ideas of course, BUT bring it to the public with enough information that you can prove such a thing to the public in an open market. Not by hiding behind a screen. But out there while facing people. Don't just insinuate like a coward. This episode is a shame. Now, here's the thing:
The objective of Indian Army is to protect Indian J&K. Some of them raped Kashmiri women. Does that bring into question the morality and need for Indian army to protect J&K? Truth is more often simpler than these left inspired conspiracy theories. The objective of the British Raj was to use India as resource. Objective of British Indian soldiers was to Get PAID. They were mercenaries. Including that Sam Manekshaw. Objective of INA was to free India. Objective of Japan was to weaken England by cutting off its colonies. When you litter truth with superficial facts but forget the essentials, you end up in such asinine donkey speak. Stupid. Calls into question your sense of balance. They were NOT sitting in a cabin, reading some books and passing judgments. They were fighting real fights. The world was cruel and real to them.
OK tell us what you really think.
What the Indian Army raped Kashmiri women? Moron, like the Indian Army killed 36 Sikhs of Chittisinghpura and 24 Hindus of Nadimarg, or Sikhs pulled out people from buses in Punjab, checked their Hindu identity and shot them dead. Seems to me Pakistani ISI propaganda and agenda has achieved fruition, if Bharitiyas can think so lowly of their country’s army and Sikhs belonging to families, where the elder brother was a Sikh and the younger a Hindu.
Brainwashed people cannot face the truth. No doubt, Bose was a great patriot who took help of fascists for building on independence movement abroad in his own way. A secular, he despised Hindu communalism, respected Gandhi & Nehru far more than Savarkar, Hedgewar.
Exceedingly well researched and scholarly work
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Print as usual using the platform and selective historical sources to defame INA. You did similar act when you created a narative that Gen V K singh is marching troupe to Delhi.
Thus urban naxal not worth anything undermining subhas legacy
A well rounded, unbiased commentary of the INA witout the usual dose of pseudo jingoism.
As usual well reasearched by PS.👍✊
It was blunder for Netaji to leave India in haste. That would have been great for Indians here, in home.
He lost the way in the labyrinth of World War.
well he was sidelined by Gandhi's Congress and put under house arrest by the British. So clearly things were not working out for him in India.
This episode is enough for me to unfollow this channel and tell everyone I know about how immature and unprofessional you are in handling serious matters.
I also unsubscribed
Nehru ruined Bose.
Please introspect without prejudice and personal judgement. Mr Bose was a great man and extremely patriotic no doubt! However we also had a few bombs falling on then Calcutta and Madras in mid 40s by the Japanese (guided by Mr.Bose's army and his own direction). No to mention Singapore was a Japanese colony and half of China was, people on the receiving end in Germany were being gassed, I am guessing we all know Nazi Germany around WW2 too well.
Germany and Japan never had any good intention with India either at that time. Germany and Japan were left out in the colonization age and so to compensate they started with a cruel colonization technique (Other colonization were softer in comparative term) in the first half of 20th century.
IMHO Mr Bose (probably) had purest intentions but probably was a bit too innocent or .... India most probably would have been gassed in it's entirety if German Japanese alliance won during WW2 and a different different civilization living in India at the moment(unlike a slightly milder British Colonization). Please don't reply to this message with hate, IMHO this was the most likely outcome of Mr Bose being successful.
I am a tiny pawn in the cogwheel, however would like to know ThePrint's view on this 🙂
Japan was definitely imperialistic. But Japan could ONLY do that if some specific boot licking Indians helped Japan rule India. It is exactly those Indians who served the British Army. People respect Sam Manekcsaw. Sam fking manekshaw. The guy who would kill fellow Indians on the orders of the British. They were sellouts. They were murderers. Without those cheap sellouts helping Japan, Japan would not have been able to rule India, especially after India succeeded in Pushing the brits out. That would created a momentum that would have been impossible to reverse. Our culture would have stopped all Indians from serving foreign powers. The whole of India wasn't invertebrate.
Subash Chandra Bose's death is a Myth.
His body is still not yet recovered.
Brilliant
For peanut brained ones. Yea
Excellent video remarkable research. Keep it up Mr swamy
Excellent information and insight into the formation of INA
Study Modi achievement.
1) How economy reach to 5th position?
2) Highway length in UPA is not comparable breath of multilane express way of NDA Modi Gatkari .
3) How many percent and times kasmir terrorism reduced after 370 remove?
4) How possible military defence export?
5) Counter terrorism like Uri and Balakot . Sonia Gandhi didn't did anything to Mumbai attackers.
6) How 4 marriage12 children by Muslim stop legally by UCC?
7) How will Impact on Ram Mandir in Religious tourism? And Let's add more....
Thank you ! This narration fulfills a deep need. To be opened up to another way of looking at something is akin to the feeling of having stumbled upon something for the first time. It's oddly exciting considering it's a topic of sensitive naval gazing.
How in your opinion would have Modi Ji conducted India's war against British colonization if he were around then?
Subash Chandra Bose was not a Muslim
That is a relief
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It was Nehru and other Indian National Congress, Independent movement leaders who defended Bose and others leaders after British US Soviet won't WWII.
Bose was freedom fighter, but if Bose somehow overthrew British from India through Military means, and ruled India after then, India would have been like Pakistan, Military Junta controlled state.
The reason Pakistan is a Military controlled state and India is a Indian People Democratic state is because the Indian freedom was won by People's Freedom Struggle Movement.
The only reason the Hindutuva Right wing love Bose and hate Congress, is because they believe without Congress they could have installed their Hindutuva Hindu (which means Brahminical) state.
The Kangana ilk are nothing new, this is main belief of Brahminical ilk for very long time. Most brahmins openly said that Indian obtained Freedom in a cowardly manner. They dont have any regard for Indian people, it is all about their dominance.