Every compact car sold in Ontario has CVT. Toyota Corolla, and Honda Civic have them. They discontinued yaris, mazda3, Chevrolet spark, even Mini Cooper.
I've owned both Toyotas and Hondas. They are very similar. Both are reliable, longevity is where they separate. The Honda will go to the salvage yard around 230K miles. The Toyota will go on for another 100K miles. Easily. And he's right about cars with turbos and CVT transmission. Pass on them. Mazdas are OK. Nissans are crap.
Yep, that's been my experience too. Unless you're willing to drop another 4 or 5k into repairs on the Honda to keep it roadworthy after that mileage. Of course there are exceptions- depending on the model and engine, and how well the vehicle has been maintained, for example- but I've found what you said to be the general rule.
Most naturally-aspirated engines today are still longer-term headache because they are 100% direct-injection & no supplemental port-injection. That's means carbon-sludge buildup because cleaning additives in top tier fuel can't physically hit half of what they need to in the engine to prevent it. Most Toyota engines today are combination direct & port injection, unlike Honda, Mazda, & basically everyone else. Still, overall Toyota quality has still gone downhill over the last tech-bloat decade, just like Honda & everyone else, & Toyota dealerships are about as crooked as they come for price-gouging over MSRP.
I went with a Honda CR-V hybrid. No turbo, low stressed 4 cylinder Atkinson cycle engine, timing chain, and the eCVT is basically an electric motor and wet clutch pack. Tried and true technology
I’ve had two Japanese built acuras for most of my driving life and the reliability has been amazing. The k24 2.4 engine is legendary in reliability and easy to work on
i blame the "green energy" cult, people who wanna "save the planet" are the reason why toyota engines are being forced to be smaller with turbos, i say, bring back the naturally aspirated engines
Your video has convinced me to purchase a Mazda CX5 with a natural 2.5. Old, good, reliable. I can sit around and watch the other two big boys get their sh*t together!
Great choice and I would seriously go to Mazda. I have a couple friends who have bought several models in recent years with really nothing bad to say. Simple, affordable and great value. Great choice.
I'm considering a new mazda to replace my 2018 camry. But these 2018-2024 camrys look and perform so well. Wish mazda still made the 6 and didn't put cylinder deactivation on every new vehicle.
I got cx5 Interior is premium compared to Toyota and honda. After 5 years zero problems. I would buy another one. I have owned Toyota and Honda before.
Mazda, for me, never again! They cost a fortune to maintain, and bodies are almost biodegradable! Yes, even today, post-Ford! 5-6 years, you start seeing rust holes. Mazda: Rust In Peace...
@@Puuhis94 maybe do some more research...... Toyota uses planetary gears for their hybrid cars, on the gas models they use a cvt with belts but also has a launch gear also been around since 2019...
Loved my 1983 Honda Accord with a standard transmission. 400,000k's until I got t- boned in an intersection. Great car with no problems. Too bad they done make them nice and simple anymore.
End up buying a 2021 Honda CR V here in Thailand that come with the 2.4 Litres engine…no turbo….a great little SUV…the 1.5 never came out until 2023 here in Thailand
Just bought a 2021 Mazda 6 Carbon with extremely low miles and so far I love it. I was just so sick of seeing Camrys and Accords every other car that I jumped at the Mazda. It's super fun to drive and a looker too.
The old saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it" was Toyota's stance on long term reliability. Tried and true engines and over-all quality were once the Toyota standard. Sadly, they have joined the pool of cost cutting measures. They can redeem as they did in the early 2000's when issue of the 4cyl was a problem. Our naturally aspirated 2023 RAV4 is a keeper, but the 2024 Crown (Platinum, made in Japan which is supposed to equal better quality control) that I was talked into buying, I see as a trade-in in two years. Turbos mixed with a hybrid...not sure of longevity once the standard of Toyota
@@ECPP What really frost me is agreeing to trade-in our 2022 Tacoma TRD Sport with less than 6K miles on it because we "no longer needed a truck" after a little more than two years for a sedan (Crown). We got more than what we owned on the Tacoma via a trade-in, and the dealership did not even have the Tacoma on the lot before someone bought it. That naturally aspirate V6, adios. I regret being manipulated into the Crown purchase, although it is an awesome car.
They were damned from the start. They had high prices for cars that have the some tech and power as vehicles from the 80s and 90s. They have to keep up because the government said to keep epa high along with less pollution. It was only a matter of time now Toyota can see what real manufacturers had to deal with while using tech. Welcome to the 2000s Toyota
I had a 2009 Honda Accord coupe V6. Mostly highway miles, oil changes with synthetic at 5,000 to 6,000 miles and the vehicle started burning oil at 70,000 miles and I was adding a quart below 1,000 miles every 3 weeks by
Mark, thank you for your research. My wife and I wanted to replace our high mileage '07 Civic and '11 Sienna. With your advice, we bought low mileage '20 Highlander and '22 Corolla. Both without turbos. My only concern is the CVT in the Corolla. But, we drive it gently, and with change the tranny fluid every 60K. Keep up the great work!
@@paulrakisyou’re stuck in the past buddy. Honda has been the boring company as of late. Problem with Toyota is that they focused more on “fun” and they sacrificed a bit of reliability in doing so. Thing is is that Toyota owners can give a flying fk about a “fun” car, we just want something RELIABLE that can get us to and from work and to our destination. I’d rather them bring back “boring” cars and focus on RELIABILITY.
I don’t think Honda’s CVTs are as bad as you claim. Yes I wouldn’t say they’re Toyota level but definitely not at the failure rate of Nissan JATCO CVTs. In 2013-2016 yes the CVTs had some shuddering and programming issues but after that they seem really good. As a Honda Accord owner, it sickens me they’ve switched to Turbocharged engines and CVTs. I still cherish my 2.4L engine and 5 Speed automatic (2006).
The pilot is using a dohc v6 di, and you can't turn off the vcm. I bought one, I'm happy with it. Hopefully, they took the dohc from the original nsx and applied to the new engine. I bought the 2024 pilot because it was one of the last NA v6 8 seaters.
Toyota CVT can also last long if only owners would do oil change which majority does not do or their mechanic say those have long life oil which is wrong. Many CVT from Toyota runs still out there after 15years and over 200k miles without issues.
I have a 2010 Acura TL 3.5L V6 Vtec engine over 222,000 plus miles and still running like a brand new car out the lot. Regular maintenance will keep it running for 100's of thousand miles. Great car. True Honda reliability. 👍👍
Idk if the problems with a new Toyota are worse than the rust issues on third generation 4Runners. I bought a 05 in 2010. I thought I’d have it forever. 265,000 miles,never a drop of oil anywhere. I didn’t know about the rust,needed front end work,the shop said can’t be fixed,the rust was terminal. I sold it this summer,still got $2500 for it. Now I’m driving a 2019 4Runner, what a great vehicle. My third 4runner,and had a 1985 Toyota pickup,it’s name was just SR5. Btw,the rust was in the frame,body was spotless.
The engine and trans are important. However, I'm seein a serious decline in the relibility of everything else. CV joints, electrical, starters, etc. The overall reliability (I'm looking at you Honda) is now trash. I've bought Honda my whole life. My next vehicle will be a Mazda.
Nobody needs 8 speed transmission complexity. Half those speeds are small gear overdrive ratios. Heavier vehicle weight just cancels out MPG gains. 4 and 6 speed transmissions were well sorted. My 30+ year old 3 speed still gets respectable 25 mpg on highway. Enjoy your high tech ODB2 transmission codes !
I owned an Acura CL (a glorified Honda Accord) and three people in my office building owned the same car and had the same issue, all of our transmissions went out. I would not buy another Honda/Acura with a V6 engine or any car with a turbo engine. I've owned a Honda Civic since 2012 and thankfully had no problems with it.
One of the reasons i keep my 1998 Mercedes with the inline 6, is that it is a low revving tractor style motor that is well known to reach 300k miles. The fancy tech in the latest cars is not made to last. Perhaps for Toyota the best choice is their hybrid line. The Honda V6 is an incredible engine; i had an Odyssey and that motor was fabulous.
What about Mazda? With your channel, it seems to be the forgotten brand. Neither positive nor negative. I've never heard it mentioned. With Mazda, you have dealers who actually deal.
Hey just wanted to let you know the new pilots use a pretty different V6 from the previous Gen. It has 4 Cam shafts and VTC actuators. Still uses a timing belt though
I would up until a few years ago you were correct. Not now though. Nissan Infiniti is on the ascent. Bought a 23 QX60 love it. I also own a 07 Tundra, love it. I literally loathe the new one and the path Toyota is now taking. Toyota management has become so arrogant. Look at where it's gotten them now. They listened to the bean counters and not their customers. Shame on Toyota.
I own a 2014 Honda Accord Sport with a CVT. Every time I search on Honda CVT reliability, the articles and videos keep circling back to Nissan CVT issues, and the recommendation to avoid all CVTs based on Nissan. I haven't had any problems with my Honda transmission. Changed fluid at 50,000 miles per Honda recommendation but will do next change at 30,000 to be on the safe side.
These two were forced into jumping into these technologies without long term real world proven data due to government regulations such as emissions, fuel mileage, etc. That Honda J35 3.5L V6 is not without its own long term issues. Particularly with the VCM.
I went with a Honda Ridgeline with the 3.5 engine last year . I know this engine as I had one in my 2004 Acura MDX in which I drove it trouble free for 350,000 miles and today its still running good.
That naturally aspirated Honda V6 is one of the smoothest engines out there and it has a growl when you get on it. I like the tough composite bed on the Ridgeline too and the trunk is so good for storing tools. The Ridgeline drives and handles like a high-end all-wheel drive SUV which I like. A really stable ride.
@@LancelotLink1 I must say I like the Ridgeline alot .. but not a fan of the transmission .. 9 speed..which tends to downshift too much. I think the engine needs more torque .. like many Turbos have.. but it was a better transmission than the Toyota Tacoma i rented a few years ago and took a 2000 mile trip. The Hnoda 3.5 is a reliable engine that will last for many miles.
@@jimmywalters3071 Only when the 9 speed transmission is in S or sport mode is when I noticed it shifting down a lot but in D or drive I though it performed really well. I'm not a big fan of the push button transmission because I accidentally pushed the D button twice a few times and unintentionally put it in sport mode and it down shifted a lot. I had no problems with the V6 although I never towed anything really heavy but I did load the bed with 4x8 sheets of drywall, plywood, 2x4s and around ten 80 lb bags of cement which it hauled perfectly. I hate metal beds with bed liners but I like the composite bed a lot. You can stack house block in it and it doesn't damage the composite at all. My last truck was a newer 4x4 Ram with the Hemi and I could write a book about all the problems it had.
honda/acura stayed with the timing belt for some reason. have had avalon, camry and 3 lexus es and never had to do anything but oil changes, tires and brakes.
Timing belts aren’t all that bad. By replacing the tensioners and pulleys, along with the water pump, you keep all that stuff in good working order. Timing chains aren’t forever, not if it’s an OHC engine. The chain stretches, the tensioners and pulleys get overlooked as well as the fuel pump. I used to think they were dumb, but now that I understand engines better, I don’t mind that much.
still driving my 2011 manual tacoma. fluid changes and tires that's it.still running on it's original battery! Toyota has come to the realization that if they build vehicles to last a lifetime they lose huge money. times have changed.
Honda engine is absolutely like brand new even after 200000 miles (engine Compression test Done, all 4 cylinder 175 psi. Best seller is toyota but best engine is from Honda
Great summary. In our family, we have Toyota Honda and Mazda. But the bottom line is you can’t buy the brand anymore You gotta buy a drivetrain. all of these brands are struggling with technological change. My guess is that Honda V6 will go through some thing when they decide to try to squeeze a little more emissions out of it. They don’t want to, they are forced too. I understand this is true and the Mazda lineup as well, Some of the latest have untested drive trains with plenty to go wrong. Still, we don’t wanna jump out of the frying pan into the fire, and buy a new Chrysler
I think that all car manufacturers can continuously improve year over year. The reason they can't is US government increasing regulation on fuel consumption and making them re-design critical components. But the other reason is planned obsolescence. They've realized much of their existence depends on replacing parts and selling new cars. They've just made cars last so long since the 90's that people can keep the same cars up to 20+ years. They want to sell more cars! I was a quality manager in form fab assembly manufacturing and was able to, with great designers and engineers drive defects down to almost nothing.
Honda had a issue with CR-V in the 1.5 in 17/18. Software updates fixed it. The revised 1.5 for the 23 model year has had changes for CR-V and base accords
2018 Honda Civic 1.5L turbo. Bought it new, I have replaced the oil once per year and had the transmission fluid replaced last year. Also have replaced the battery twice and two sets of tires. I have had ZERO problems. The car is ultra reliable. I live in a hot climate, maybe a cold climate would be problematic? I plan on keeping this car another 7 years without issues, just have to keep up on the maintenance.
Will not be long before they start having issues as well because the fines they are paying for not meeting the emissions standards will get bigger and every couple of years more strict so the problem is they will have to switch to Turbos and direct injection to meet the regulations. Want this to go away? Stop voting Democrat they are the reason all these rules exist. What they want to do now is make Gas autos problematic so you will want to switch to EV. So you have two options left buy an old goody and restore it to new. I noticed old Ford trucks have went up in value because people are doing just that. They can't afford the price of modern trucks and are now buying up old trucks and putting new engines and transmissions in them.
I had a 2014 Honda Civic and the maintenance cost is very very high after a few years having the car. From minor to mayor issues which cost me a lot. I will not buy a Honda ever again. The repair cost is very very high.
Between Acuras and Hondas I have owned, I really like that V6, and still have a 2009 MDX with over 200K on it that my son drives daily. I have a 2013 Civic that still runs great. I have a 2021 Passport and the V6 is adequate for the way I drive. I don't want to install a radiator out of a school bus to keep a turbo model cool. We have summer temperatures here that sit around 120F for MONTHS! I would NEVER buy a turbo-equipped engine with the additional heat load under the hood. I was not aware of the difference between the Toyota and Honda CVT, but have stayed away based on what CVTs have done to Subaru when overlanding the vehicle. I don't want to sit around until the tranny cools off to be able to move the car again. Informative video!
Kindly never buy toyota petrol naturally aspirated engine, all these having OIL CONSUMPTION 1 litre for every 1000 miles. I'm a mechanic and other mechanics also confirmed the same
On the 3.5l V-6 Honda engine, make sure to bypass the VCM (Variable Cylinder Management) which deactivates bank of 3 cylinders, which leads to pre-mature wear, it also puts wear on the engine mounts (to compensate for uneven cylinder/stroke firing cycle), a simple $140 device and 30 minutes of your time will do the trick.
Nah...madza, nissan, kia, subaru, etc. will never beat Toyota and Honda in reliability and dependability. Nothing is perfect. My V6'13 4Runner 4.0 is still running with over 140k. This suv will run for another 1 million + miles.
my lexus was one of the most unreliable cars I have ever owned. it never left me stranded but the wireless key reciever failed and my car had to be towed out of my own garage among many other issues.
Mazda!! , they came out being partially owned by Ford and have grown as a brand, they put the tried and true 2.5 4cyl in most their models use a dependable solid automatic transmission and the cx-5 is built in Japan where they are built right.
It's great having such wonderful filming, the waving hand is never out of the picture and the presenter manages to shout continually throughout the whole thing 😂
Hi Ahmad, that’s also a fun one and both have benefits. A slightly older vehicle, Lexus would be a more reliable choice but now with turbo 4s replacing the V6, the Acuras now have a little bit of a trump card. New Lexus Hybrid is quite reliable because their e CVT is bulletproof and matched up with the reliable NA 4 cylinder engines likely would be a better bet, however it’s close. Acura and the smaller cars like the integra using the 1.5 turbo and or CVT is to be avoided in my opinion when looking at Lexus.
A good brand to compare to Honda and Toyota in this segment would have been Mazda. In terms of affordable vehicles that aren't considered luxury class, they make some of the most durable vehicles in the market. Their Skyactiv-G engines are used in many of their models and they can usually be purchased as non-turbo or turbo, depending on the buyer's preference. They also seem to have one of the more efficient engines when compared to Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Subaru, etc, and the overall build quality has improved significantly over the past 10 years. I'm not sure if Toyota had something to do with improving the build quality, but Toyota does have a 5% stake in Mazda so I'm sure there's been some collaboration between the two companies. Since the Skyactiv-G engine is so heavily used across their entire product line and it's been around since 2011, all of the kinks have likely been worked out. They did have issues with the turbo engines a few years back, but all newer turbo models should be okay to buy. In any case if buying for long term reliability and longevity stick with a non-turbo Mazda.
Going to keep my 4 cylinder Tacoma as long as possible. Really hope Toyota irons out the turbo issues or gets rid of them altogether. Future vehicle might be a 4runner, but going to stay clear of the 4runners with turbos until I hear they have little to no issues.
We were on the verge of buying a Honda and found out about a brake simulator issue that Honda has recalled 500k cars for . This problem is now being seen in the US and I believe in the UK. I’m not sure about then rest of Europe. Some owners are having to pay 2k to fix it . Others say the dealership is paying up to 40%. It affects the Jazz or Fit , the CRV and the HRV. 2018- 2022. We eventually bought a used Lexus UX.
All nice and good but service is quite expensive in Europe. For a Corolla hybrid it’s more than 300 to 400 every year in north Europe. And the Civic starts at 40.000 USD !
had many transmission failures on my Honda Odyssey (3 Transmission failures) and my Acura Tl (3 Failures). My toyota prius and lexus gx460 have been problem free. No more honda for me.
Tech-bloat & rampant cost-cutting to increase profit margins has hurt the quality of all brands versus what they were 10-20 years ago before all that tech-bloat & certain regulations that resulted in some longer-term unreliable/problematic engine/transmission tech to meet those regulations (belt/chain CVTs, Small-displacement turbo engines, 100% direct-inject engines, cylinder-deactivation, start/stop, etc.). I would still choose (if it was possible) a new bulletproof reliable 2015-2018 Yaris SE hatch 5-MT (the last of the old-school Toyota early 2000's tech) over any new vehicle today.
Almost every owner of turbo engines don't realize that after your destination should run the engine for a minute. Engine oil also cools the turbo that's at over 2 k degrees. It's causing the fins on the turbo to break off into the engine. It's the temperature of hot and cold breaking down the turbo. Over 6 k to replace the turbo if not also the engine. Hybrid engines have a fast excellaration to take off. The gas engine then is engaged. Toyota 2.5 engine is the best engine to buy for longevity.
The Crv yes it's not reliable my friend has one just like that same color it's Park problem with the start with speed with turbo with injectors with gaskets I told her they scam her
What plagued Japanese manufacturers was constantly improving quality... Let me explain. WIthin a run of cars it was possible that your make,model and version could have several possible parts (that had been improved) and ended up with the wrong part. The idea of Kaizen is great but it can also backfire.
READ THIS AND SAVE 19 MINUTES: Buy a non-turbo, non-CVT transmission vehicle.
its getting hard to do. and dont buy a hyundai or kia. or nissan. thanks for saving me 19 minutes for what i already knew.
Manual be better
Every compact car sold in Ontario has CVT. Toyota Corolla, and Honda Civic have them. They discontinued yaris, mazda3, Chevrolet spark, even Mini Cooper.
@@bigd835 Nissan is a excellent choice. ONLY if it has a traditional auto transmission.. otherwise avoid their cvts
At least Toyota gave it a real gear for 1st.
I've owned both Toyotas and Hondas. They are very similar. Both are reliable, longevity is where they separate. The Honda will go to the salvage yard around 230K miles. The Toyota will go on for another 100K miles. Easily. And he's right about cars with turbos and CVT transmission. Pass on them. Mazdas are OK. Nissans are crap.
Yep, that's been my experience too. Unless you're willing to drop another 4 or 5k into repairs on the Honda to keep it roadworthy after that mileage. Of course there are exceptions- depending on the model and engine, and how well the vehicle has been maintained, for example- but I've found what you said to be the general rule.
Buying a Toyota or Honda is the safest thing you could do in today’s economy!!!
Toyota Honda Mazda are top 3.
VW and KIA Hyundai are bottom 3
@@asfdafasdfwfrgNissan cvt is garbage too
Both make non turbo cars
@@asfdafasdfwfrgFord as well. Most Mazdas are Ford's with minor changes.
And use condoms if you get lucky!!
stay with natural aspiration - got it
Hopefully it’s all very clear who makes the more reliable vehicle
Most naturally-aspirated engines today are still longer-term headache because they are 100% direct-injection & no supplemental port-injection. That's means carbon-sludge buildup because cleaning additives in top tier fuel can't physically hit half of what they need to in the engine to prevent it. Most Toyota engines today are combination direct & port injection, unlike Honda, Mazda, & basically everyone else. Still, overall Toyota quality has still gone downhill over the last tech-bloat decade, just like Honda & everyone else, & Toyota dealerships are about as crooked as they come for price-gouging over MSRP.
The ad that popped up was on a Ford explorer and it said it's the most reliable SUV you can buy.lmfao. my boring 23 Corolla gas gets 43 mpg at 80.xd
As long it not turbo and or cvt transmission
A Mazda then
I went with a Honda CR-V hybrid. No turbo, low stressed 4 cylinder Atkinson cycle engine, timing chain, and the eCVT is basically an electric motor and wet clutch pack. Tried and true technology
Same. This combo is no brainer. Very good to last.
What year is it?
But direct injection...
I went Mazda for all those reasons with my wifes car. She loves it and it's our 2nd Mazda never a single issue other than normal maintenance.
I have heard that from other Mazda owners
I have both Honda & Toyotas each have equal but different value Toyota is better on gas but Honda rides better on long trips
Yes they all a little different in delivery
I’ve had two Japanese built acuras for most of my driving life and the reliability has been amazing. The k24 2.4 engine is legendary in reliability and easy to work on
i blame the "green energy" cult,
people who wanna "save the planet" are the reason why toyota engines are being forced to be smaller with turbos,
i say, bring back the naturally aspirated engines
it's the government regulations, not a "cult" or people...
Your video has convinced me to purchase a Mazda CX5 with a natural 2.5. Old, good, reliable. I can sit around and watch the other two big boys get their sh*t together!
Great choice and I would seriously go to Mazda. I have a couple friends who have bought several models in recent years with really nothing bad to say. Simple, affordable and great value. Great choice.
Good Choice.
Stay CX-5..The cx50 is Good..The CX-5 is Best👍
I'm considering a new mazda to replace my 2018 camry. But these 2018-2024 camrys look and perform so well. Wish mazda still made the 6 and didn't put cylinder deactivation on every new vehicle.
I got cx5 Interior is premium compared to Toyota and honda. After 5 years zero problems. I would buy another one. I have owned Toyota and Honda before.
Mazda, for me, never again! They cost a fortune to maintain, and bodies are almost biodegradable! Yes, even today, post-Ford! 5-6 years, you start seeing rust holes. Mazda: Rust In Peace...
King of reliability is Mazda. Mazda does not use a CVT. A conventional auto trans is used instead.
You are right. It works
Toyota uses a physical launch gear in there cvts, that gear takes most of the stress off the transmission....
In the UK, you can also still get a stick shift in most Mazdas.
Toyota is a e-cvt, it's planetary gears. Not that stupid variator with a belt
@@Puuhis94 maybe do some more research...... Toyota uses planetary gears for their hybrid cars, on the gas models they use a cvt with belts but also has a launch gear also been around since 2019...
just buy either and keep up with the maintenece guys, I've owned both
Manufacturers should take notes from Toyota and Honda.
There is a big difference between American, European and Japanese when it comes to mental. The Japanese are more honest
Loved my 1983 Honda Accord with a standard transmission. 400,000k's until I got t- boned in an intersection. Great car with no problems. Too bad they done make them nice and simple anymore.
I have a 2012 Honda civic manual coupe, The new suspension system is fantastic. Great little high revving engine, simple controls. i love it
End up buying a 2021 Honda CR V here in Thailand that come with the 2.4 Litres engine…no turbo….a great little SUV…the 1.5 never came out until 2023 here in Thailand
Just bought a 2021 Mazda 6 Carbon with extremely low miles and so far I love it. I was just so sick of seeing Camrys and Accords every other car that I jumped at the Mazda. It's super fun to drive and a looker too.
Good choice!
The old saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it" was Toyota's stance on long term reliability. Tried and true engines and over-all quality were once the Toyota standard. Sadly, they have joined the pool of cost cutting measures. They can redeem as they did in the early 2000's when issue of the 4cyl was a problem. Our naturally aspirated 2023 RAV4 is a keeper, but the 2024 Crown (Platinum, made in Japan which is supposed to equal better quality control) that I was talked into buying, I see as a trade-in in two years. Turbos mixed with a hybrid...not sure of longevity once the standard of Toyota
I agree, there are a lot of extra components and technology going on there and is a higher probability of failure
@@ECPP What really frost me is agreeing to trade-in our 2022 Tacoma TRD Sport with less than 6K miles on it because we "no longer needed a truck" after a little more than two years for a sedan (Crown). We got more than what we owned on the Tacoma via a trade-in, and the dealership did not even have the Tacoma on the lot before someone bought it. That naturally aspirate V6, adios. I regret being manipulated into the Crown purchase, although it is an awesome car.
TOYOTA does not "joined the pool of cost cutting measures", they are actually the inventor, leader, and good at this.
They were damned from the start. They had high prices for cars that have the some tech and power as vehicles from the 80s and 90s. They have to keep up because the government said to keep epa high along with less pollution. It was only a matter of time now Toyota can see what real manufacturers had to deal with while using tech. Welcome to the 2000s Toyota
@@dariusslay279 Yes, even Honda stopped manufacturing lawn equipment (mowers) because of the EPA and loss of profit due to the regs.
Seeing a Land Rover ad in the middle of this reliability video... 🤣🤣🤣
Cheers
I had a 2009 Honda Accord coupe V6. Mostly highway miles, oil changes with synthetic at 5,000 to 6,000 miles and the vehicle started burning oil at 70,000 miles and I was adding a quart below 1,000 miles every 3 weeks by
Mark, thank you for your research. My wife and I wanted to replace our high mileage '07 Civic and '11 Sienna. With your advice, we bought low mileage '20 Highlander and '22 Corolla. Both without turbos. My only concern is the CVT in the Corolla. But, we drive it gently, and with change the tranny fluid every 60K. Keep up the great work!
I had Lexus/Toyota GX 460 2015. I did 300.000 miles with ZERO problems so last year a bought brand new..GX 460 V8 ( non turbo like the new one) .
Toyota is on a downward spiral with the Tundra and Tacoma. Building the Taco in Mexico will cost them big time. I'm happy with my Ridgeline
Yes it seems that manufacturing is a big issues and I heard that they are likely taking hybrid Lexus building going back to Japan soon
My dad loves his Ridgeline too
Hondas look way better. And drive more fun. YOTA are still great but are just boring to drive.
@@paulrakisyou’re stuck in the past buddy. Honda has been the boring company as of late. Problem with Toyota is that they focused more on “fun” and they sacrificed a bit of reliability in doing so. Thing is is that Toyota owners can give a flying fk about a “fun” car, we just want something RELIABLE that can get us to and from work and to our destination. I’d rather them bring back “boring” cars and focus on RELIABILITY.
@@paulrakishave you seen the new accord???
I don’t think Honda’s CVTs are as bad as you claim. Yes I wouldn’t say they’re Toyota level but definitely not at the failure rate of Nissan JATCO CVTs. In 2013-2016 yes the CVTs had some shuddering and programming issues but after that they seem really good. As a Honda Accord owner, it sickens me they’ve switched to Turbocharged engines and CVTs. I still cherish my 2.4L engine and 5 Speed automatic (2006).
The pilot is using a dohc v6 di, and you can't turn off the vcm. I bought one, I'm happy with it. Hopefully, they took the dohc from the original nsx and applied to the new engine. I bought the 2024 pilot because it was one of the last NA v6 8 seaters.
I have a 2023 EX-L and my reasoning was exactly like yours
If you like to DIY your maintenance, fluid changes are a lot easier on Hondas - especially transmission fluid changes.
Toyota CVT can also last long if only owners would do oil change which majority does not do or their mechanic say those have long life oil which is wrong. Many CVT from Toyota runs still out there after 15years and over 200k miles without issues.
Yes indeed
I have a 2010 Acura TL 3.5L V6 Vtec engine over 222,000 plus miles and still running like a brand new car out the lot. Regular maintenance will keep it running for 100's of thousand miles. Great car. True Honda reliability. 👍👍
Thanks for sharing! Great engines in those vehicles
I’ll stay with Mazda.
Cheers
Yup,yup..You n Me Both.. Picked up a 2024 CX-5... Best move I made in years...👍💯🎯
Picked my 2024 cx5 in January 2024. Had Hondas for over 30 years.@@raymondhumphrey2749
No mini cooper?
Mazdas are underrated
Idk if the problems with a new Toyota are worse than the rust issues on third generation 4Runners. I bought a 05 in 2010. I thought I’d have it forever. 265,000 miles,never a drop of oil anywhere. I didn’t know about the rust,needed front end work,the shop said can’t be fixed,the rust was terminal. I sold it this summer,still got $2500 for it. Now I’m driving a 2019 4Runner, what a great vehicle. My third 4runner,and had a 1985 Toyota pickup,it’s name was just SR5. Btw,the rust was in the frame,body was spotless.
Did you undercoat it? Anything made of carbon steel will eventually rust if it isn't oiled. The paint breaks down.
New to your channel here from Quebec ! Really appreciate !
Welcome! Hi neighbor. Hope it helps and you have a great week.
@@ECPP Yes ! You too ! Watching you rtight now , will hit the like on each one I see ! 😊
@@ECPP You too ! Watching you right now ! I'll hit the like on everyone I watch ! 😊
Is a Buick Envision circa 2016-2017 any good ?
The engine and trans are important. However, I'm seein a serious decline in the relibility of everything else. CV joints, electrical, starters, etc. The overall reliability (I'm looking at you Honda) is now trash. I've bought Honda my whole life. My next vehicle will be a Mazda.
Nobody needs 8 speed transmission complexity. Half those speeds are small gear overdrive ratios. Heavier vehicle weight just cancels out MPG gains. 4 and 6 speed transmissions were well sorted. My 30+ year old 3 speed still gets respectable 25 mpg on highway. Enjoy your high tech ODB2 transmission codes !
What year and vehicle is your 3 speed?
I owned an Acura CL (a glorified Honda Accord) and three people in my office building owned the same car and had the same issue, all of our transmissions went out. I would not buy another Honda/Acura with a V6 engine or any car with a turbo engine. I've owned a Honda Civic since 2012 and thankfully had no problems with it.
One of the reasons i keep my 1998 Mercedes with the inline 6, is that it is a low revving tractor style motor that is well known to reach 300k miles. The fancy tech in the latest cars is not made to last. Perhaps for Toyota the best choice is their hybrid line. The Honda V6 is an incredible engine; i had an Odyssey and that motor was fabulous.
None of them have the simplest recipe of success anymore: naturally aspirated, MPI (port) injection, manual transmission.
What about Mazda? With your channel, it seems to be the forgotten brand. Neither positive nor negative. I've never heard it mentioned. With Mazda, you have dealers who actually deal.
Mazdas are great these days and I would put them up there with Honda and Toyota with reliability and affordability is better. Excellent choices.
@@ECPP the new Mazda also have turbo 4 on cx9
Hey just wanted to let you know the new pilots use a pretty different V6 from the previous Gen. It has 4 Cam shafts and VTC actuators. Still uses a timing belt though
Good ol’ Mazda CX-5 to the rescue. Aside from a dated infotainment system - it’s a conservative design that stood the test of time.
Yes I agree the CX5 and CX50 are their best platforms for SUVs
@@ECPPmpg and interior space suck sorry
toyota is always better but honda is in some types ...
Both brands have some real winning combinations
I would up until a few years ago you were correct. Not now though. Nissan Infiniti is on the ascent. Bought a 23 QX60 love it. I also own a 07 Tundra, love it. I literally loathe the new one and the path Toyota is now taking. Toyota management has become so arrogant. Look at where it's gotten them now. They listened to the bean counters and not their customers. Shame on Toyota.
You are a expert are you Jack Ass 😂
I own a 2014 Honda Accord Sport with a CVT. Every time I search on Honda CVT reliability, the articles and videos keep circling back to Nissan CVT issues, and the recommendation to avoid all CVTs based on Nissan. I haven't had any problems with my Honda transmission. Changed fluid at 50,000 miles per Honda recommendation but will do next change at 30,000 to be on the safe side.
These two were forced into jumping into these technologies without long term real world proven data due to government regulations such as emissions, fuel mileage, etc. That Honda J35 3.5L V6 is not without its own long term issues. Particularly with the VCM.
...which is why I have a VCM disabler in my 16 AV6 Touring. VCM aside, regular timing belt service is a must.
I went with a Honda Ridgeline with the 3.5 engine last year . I know this engine as I had one in my 2004 Acura MDX in which I drove it trouble free for 350,000 miles and today its still running good.
Great vehicles and awesome choice
That naturally aspirated Honda V6 is one of the smoothest engines out there and it has a growl when you get on it. I like the tough composite bed on the Ridgeline too and the trunk is so good for storing tools. The Ridgeline drives and handles like a high-end all-wheel drive SUV which I like. A really stable ride.
@@LancelotLink1 I must say I like the Ridgeline alot .. but not a fan of the transmission .. 9 speed..which tends to downshift too much. I think the engine needs more torque .. like many Turbos have.. but it was a better transmission than the Toyota Tacoma i rented a few years ago and took a 2000 mile trip. The Hnoda 3.5 is a reliable engine that will last for many miles.
@@jimmywalters3071 Only when the 9 speed transmission is in S or sport mode is when I noticed it shifting down a lot but in D or drive I though it performed really well. I'm not a big fan of the push button transmission because I accidentally pushed the D button twice a few times and unintentionally put it in sport mode and it down shifted a lot. I had no problems with the V6 although I never towed anything really heavy but I did load the bed with 4x8 sheets of drywall, plywood, 2x4s and around ten 80 lb bags of cement which it hauled perfectly. I hate metal beds with bed liners but I like the composite bed a lot. You can stack house block in it and it doesn't damage the composite at all. My last truck was a newer 4x4 Ram with the Hemi and I could write a book about all the problems it had.
@@LancelotLink1 Mine is a RTL didn't know it had a Sport Mode.
honda/acura stayed with the timing belt for some reason. have had avalon, camry and 3 lexus es and never had to do anything but oil changes, tires and brakes.
Timing belts aren’t all that bad. By replacing the tensioners and pulleys, along with the water pump, you keep all that stuff in good working order. Timing chains aren’t forever, not if it’s an OHC engine. The chain stretches, the tensioners and pulleys get overlooked as well as the fuel pump. I used to think they were dumb, but now that I understand engines better, I don’t mind that much.
still driving my 2011 manual tacoma. fluid changes and tires that's it.still running on it's original battery!
Toyota has come to the realization that if they build vehicles to last a lifetime they lose huge money. times have changed.
Honda engine is absolutely like brand new even after 200000 miles (engine Compression test Done, all 4 cylinder 175 psi. Best seller is toyota but best engine is from Honda
Lexus, and Toyota are now way ahead of Honda. But they really took a shit with their trucks lately.
Every car company will shit the bed at least once in their career, but they will learn
Great summary. In our family, we have Toyota Honda and Mazda. But the bottom line is you can’t buy the brand anymore You gotta buy a drivetrain. all of these brands are struggling with technological change. My guess is that Honda V6 will go through some thing when they decide to try to squeeze a little more emissions out of it. They don’t want to, they are forced too. I understand this is true and the Mazda lineup as well, Some of the latest have untested drive trains with plenty to go wrong. Still, we don’t wanna jump out of the frying pan into the fire, and buy a new Chrysler
Some great points. I agree but buying a Dodge or Chrysler could be a big mistake especially when. Coming from a Japanese make.
I've owned both brands, and they are both reliable cars. Now I own a Honda Accord Sport because I prefer the style.
I think that all car manufacturers can continuously improve year over year. The reason they can't is US government increasing regulation on fuel consumption and making them re-design critical components.
But the other reason is planned obsolescence. They've realized much of their existence depends on replacing parts and selling new cars. They've just made cars last so long since the 90's that people can keep the same cars up to 20+ years. They want to sell more cars!
I was a quality manager in form fab assembly manufacturing and was able to, with great designers and engineers drive defects down to almost nothing.
Honda had a issue with CR-V in the 1.5 in 17/18. Software updates fixed it. The revised 1.5 for the 23 model year has had changes for CR-V and base accords
Thanks for sharing. That’s great
I was behind a crv with oil dilution issues yesterday, and boy, the smell!!! PURE RAW unburned fuel! Problems have not been fixed!
2018 Honda Civic 1.5L turbo. Bought it new, I have replaced the oil once per year and had the transmission fluid replaced last year. Also have replaced the battery twice and two sets of tires. I have had ZERO problems. The car is ultra reliable. I live in a hot climate, maybe a cold climate would be problematic? I plan on keeping this car another 7 years without issues, just have to keep up on the maintenance.
2 batteries ??? My car is from 2014 and have never changed my battery 😮
@@daniel-ino Yeah, Honda put a tiny battery into this Civic, I'm only getting about 3 years out of them. 😂
If you live in hot desert, you need to replace battery twice as often. An EV or hybrid in desert would make me very nervous.
@@donrichter3523 Yes, very hot desert. Yesterday was 115°F or 46°C, in October! Brutal.
Mazda that's the most reliable car today without a doubt
Yes I would agree and largely due to simplicity
100% true
Will not be long before they start having issues as well because the fines they are paying for not meeting the emissions standards will get bigger and every couple of years more strict so the problem is they will have to switch to Turbos and direct injection to meet the regulations. Want this to go away? Stop voting Democrat they are the reason all these rules exist. What they want to do now is make Gas autos problematic so you will want to switch to EV. So you have two options left buy an old goody and restore it to new. I noticed old Ford trucks have went up in value because people are doing just that. They can't afford the price of modern trucks and are now buying up old trucks and putting new engines and transmissions in them.
If that is true then why I don’t see them on the road
@@patone2184 lol
I had a 2014 Honda Civic and the maintenance cost is very very high after a few years having the car. From minor to mayor issues which cost me a lot. I will not buy a Honda ever again. The repair cost is very very high.
Between Acuras and Hondas I have owned, I really like that V6, and still have a 2009 MDX with over 200K on it that my son drives daily. I have a 2013 Civic that still runs great. I have a 2021 Passport and the V6 is adequate for the way I drive. I don't want to install a radiator out of a school bus to keep a turbo model cool. We have summer temperatures here that sit around 120F for MONTHS! I would NEVER buy a turbo-equipped engine with the additional heat load under the hood. I was not aware of the difference between the Toyota and Honda CVT, but have stayed away based on what CVTs have done to Subaru when overlanding the vehicle. I don't want to sit around until the tranny cools off to be able to move the car again. Informative video!
My next new car is going to be a Mazda
Good Solid Choice..👍
PTL. Too bad. PTL
@@brandonbarnette4013Do not buy a mazda with the sky active diesel engine. Its chronic crap , even worse than a jaguar ingenium diesel.
Me too
We need a channel like this to sift through all of the crappy, overpriced cars being made today
i wish Mercedes would work out the bugs in the 2025 GLC 300, still hearing issues, and its there best selling model
That’s true…..the sweet spot for pricing
Great content. Would do the same with Mazda / Subaru. Thanks
Cheers
Here in my place Toyota stop offering the manual transmission on their Corolla. I'm disappointed.
Toyota, reputable, consistency, quality, reliability, comfort, luxury, features, safety, efficiency, practicality, value, access, rarity, soul, emotion, takumi craftsmenship, Kaizen Philosophy
Mazda is your best bet!👍
I think so too!
Happy Mazda 3 owner with regular oil changes! 👍
@@middleman9183 Nice..CX-5 Here. 2024 Basic model..Runs like a champ,with Great gas mileage..👍
Kindly never buy toyota petrol naturally aspirated engine, all these having OIL CONSUMPTION 1 litre for every 1000 miles. I'm a mechanic and other mechanics also confirmed the same
My 2012 Yaris is rock solid. Just a 1.3VVTI 4-cilinder. No turbo. Chain.
Simple and effective
Like it or not the new King is MAZDA!
Agreed
Dream on
lmao
On the 3.5l V-6 Honda engine, make sure to bypass the VCM (Variable Cylinder Management) which deactivates bank of 3 cylinders, which leads to pre-mature wear, it also puts wear on the engine mounts (to compensate for uneven cylinder/stroke firing cycle), a simple $140 device and 30 minutes of your time will do the trick.
That is awesome thanks so much for sharing
Nah...madza, nissan, kia, subaru, etc. will never beat Toyota and Honda in reliability and dependability. Nothing is perfect. My V6'13 4Runner 4.0 is still running with over 140k. This suv will run for another 1 million + miles.
my lexus was one of the most unreliable cars I have ever owned. it never left me stranded but the wireless key reciever failed and my car had to be towed out of my own garage among many other issues.
Not good. Which generation and model?
Mazda!! , they came out being partially owned by Ford and have grown as a brand, they put the tried and true 2.5 4cyl in most their models use a dependable solid automatic transmission and the cx-5 is built in Japan where they are built right.
They had their issues. some years of the 3 were bad with rust.
It's great having such wonderful filming, the waving hand is never out of the picture and the presenter manages to shout continually throughout the whole thing 😂
Thanks
This is the style we all love.
In Germany Honda and Toyota only sell new hybrids cars because of the CO2 transmissions. Mazda still sells the normal petrol engine new cars.
Who does the better second brand? Toyota with Lexus or Honda with Acura?
Hi Ahmad, that’s also a fun one and both have benefits. A slightly older vehicle, Lexus would be a more reliable choice but now with turbo 4s replacing the V6, the Acuras now have a little bit of a trump card. New Lexus Hybrid is quite reliable because their e CVT is bulletproof and matched up with the reliable NA 4 cylinder engines likely would be a better bet, however it’s close. Acura and the smaller cars like the integra using the 1.5 turbo and or CVT is to be avoided in my opinion when looking at Lexus.
Lexus
@@ECPP might be a good vid
LEXUS of course.
im thinking most people that have problems drive their cars too hard. Ive had several turbo cars and no problems.
I heard the problem with Honda is high insurance cost due to theft.
A good brand to compare to Honda and Toyota in this segment would have been Mazda. In terms of affordable vehicles that aren't considered luxury class, they make some of the most durable vehicles in the market. Their Skyactiv-G engines are used in many of their models and they can usually be purchased as non-turbo or turbo, depending on the buyer's preference. They also seem to have one of the more efficient engines when compared to Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Subaru, etc, and the overall build quality has improved significantly over the past 10 years. I'm not sure if Toyota had something to do with improving the build quality, but Toyota does have a 5% stake in Mazda so I'm sure there's been some collaboration between the two companies.
Since the Skyactiv-G engine is so heavily used across their entire product line and it's been around since 2011, all of the kinks have likely been worked out. They did have issues with the turbo engines a few years back, but all newer turbo models should be okay to buy. In any case if buying for long term reliability and longevity stick with a non-turbo Mazda.
Going to keep my 4 cylinder Tacoma as long as possible. Really hope Toyota irons out the turbo issues or gets rid of them altogether. Future vehicle might be a 4runner, but going to stay clear of the 4runners with turbos until I hear they have little to no issues.
Maybe not Honda, since they have recently recalled a total of 2.4 million of some of their recent models.
We were on the verge of buying a Honda and found out about a brake simulator issue that Honda has recalled 500k cars for . This problem is now being seen in the US and I believe in the UK. I’m not sure about then rest of Europe. Some owners are having to pay 2k to fix it . Others say the dealership is paying up to 40%. It affects the Jazz or Fit , the CRV and the HRV. 2018- 2022. We eventually bought a used Lexus UX.
NB. the recall was in Japan.
All nice and good but service is quite expensive in Europe. For a Corolla hybrid it’s more than 300 to 400 every year in north Europe. And the Civic starts at 40.000 USD !
You could buy VW, it’s more or less a domestic vehicle for you. Sadly, VW’s are questionable reliability. They typically drive well, but……
i forgot to mention, been a chevy guy my hole life have 2014 Silverado ya paint peeling off the hood, maybe i should buy a car from the 70's or 80's
Well……keep it simple
Great info. Opened my eye.
Thank you
Here in India Suzuki’s are bulletproof!🇯🇵❤
They are simple and good
had many transmission failures on my Honda Odyssey (3 Transmission failures) and my Acura Tl (3 Failures). My toyota prius and lexus gx460 have been problem free. No more honda for me.
Maybe it’s not the car…
In Asia Honda is the Benz !!! The huge Accord sells very well
Nice
Where in Asia? I travel to many Asian countries and I've yet to spot an Accord.
@@robocop581 ... Thailand
@@_Alfa.Bravo_ Aaaah got it.
What’s your opinion about the new 2025 Toyota Corolla truck?
Tech-bloat & rampant cost-cutting to increase profit margins has hurt the quality of all brands versus what they were 10-20 years ago before all that tech-bloat & certain regulations that resulted in some longer-term unreliable/problematic engine/transmission tech to meet those regulations (belt/chain CVTs, Small-displacement turbo engines, 100% direct-inject engines, cylinder-deactivation, start/stop, etc.). I would still choose (if it was possible) a new bulletproof reliable 2015-2018 Yaris SE hatch 5-MT (the last of the old-school Toyota early 2000's tech) over any new vehicle today.
Yep. Keep it simple....but if only they were allowed to.
I rather keep fixing my 08 corolla and 04 tacoma
Almost every owner of turbo engines don't realize that after your destination should run the engine for a minute. Engine oil also cools the turbo that's at over 2 k degrees. It's causing the fins on the turbo to break off into the engine. It's the temperature of hot and cold breaking down the turbo. Over 6 k to replace the turbo if not also the engine.
Hybrid engines have a fast excellaration to take off. The gas engine then is engaged.
Toyota 2.5 engine is the best engine to buy for longevity.
Mazda for life! I own a Mazda CX3…very reliable and fun to drive 💯
I love my Lexus collection 👍🏼
Nice vehicles
I've been happy with Mazdas. Non-turbo, non-CVT, simple torsion beam rear suspension, no problems whatsoever.
The Crv yes it's not reliable my friend has one just like that same color it's Park problem with the start with speed with turbo with injectors with gaskets I told her they scam her
Hondas retain their value the best - checkout KBB Mazda is a a decent economy brand if you can't get a Honda or Toyota
Toyota & Honda❤
Thanks
What plagued Japanese manufacturers was constantly improving quality... Let me explain.
WIthin a run of cars it was possible that your make,model and version could have several possible parts (that had been improved) and ended up with the wrong part. The idea of Kaizen is great but it can also backfire.
Plot twist MERCEDES is the new reliability king 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha
Think i will go with the latest B48 or B58 engine options and solid transmission.
Great choice
Weird, all the worst parts on my fleet of cars generally come from Toyota Group companies like Aisin and Denso.
What is the best new, naturally-aspirated V6 sedan or hatchback on the market today?
Thank goodness toyota hasn't really touched the corolla the newer camry remains to be seen.