Having the Fire Maple lantern which uses the same isobutane canisters as a tiny stove would be a nice combination. Hanging a UCO from the roof of a tent works very well for controlling condensation throughout the night and makes for far more pleasant sleeping. Thanks for your informative and most interesting video. All the best for your continued success in 2024.
Excellent video David. I've never been a fan of cheap petroleum candles myself. There like passive smoking, they evaporate and end up in your lungs. Like yourself, I always use beeswax more expensive but you get what you pay for and much better for your health. A point of interest beeswax wax burns much brighter than petroleum. Thanks David.
I've just received and tested at home the Fire Maple Orange Lantern. I found I needed to gently bend one of the catches within to make glass slot in and rotate easier. I benchmarked its fuel usage, I lowered the flame to the MAXIMUM you'd be prepared to accept in a tent where the flame is just below the top of the glass. I used 11 grams in 1 hour 10 mins. So significantly more than 4g/hour. I suspect 4g/hour is when you set it to much lower. So if you were thinking of using for keeping tent warmer/drier you'd be needing to think of carrying a lot more gas. I consume for cooking average 13g/day, so 100g = 6 days, but If I were to use this for say 4 hour for winter light+warmth in vestibule then that 100g canister would just about last 2 days.
Great comparison! I've had a few UCO's for years and have loved them. The Fire Maple does seem to be better overall but the one advantage I'd give to the UCO is that the lantern and fuel come in a much smaller package compared to the Fire Maple with a separate fuel canister. I'll still probably pick up a Fire Maple😄
I commented on TOGR channel about being interested in this lantern and you referred me to your video. Your review in thorough and informative, you did a good job. Don't know if I'm going to get it yet but your review will help in my decision making process. Good job, keep up the good work.
Having backpacked for years using the French made precursor to the UCO, I would hands down only use that style, versus the other. It has to do with light, safety and packaging. Never heat.
@@Fellmandave1 In the places I have been, the heat is not consequential. When I did spelunking, sometimes you would put a candle or your carbide lantern under your jacket to trap the heat. iMHO you shynot rely on such things for heat, because when you are out of fuel for it, then what? Also, in AK a study was done on survival issues. People who built a shelter first, lived. People who built a fire forsi, did not. So please be careful with where your thoughts can take you, without warning.
Love it Dave 😁 The Fire Maple gets my vote. I'm thinking it would be nice in our house as a back up or for a little ambient lighting as we live off grid. Cheers 😁
yes Andy, I agree, the video does not do it adequate justice, plus where you are you can probably get the stitched leather canister cover which really sets it off.
I just got for similar reasons. But I also own a lot of ethanol fuel which may work out cheaper per hour where weigtht/volume isn't so critical. Just ordered some wicks and I'll make some ethanol candles and try them at home before deciding what goes camping. The issue with condensation in winter i am familiar with I used the bombproof Trangia with simmer ring on lowest before, a low stable basis to be difficult to have an accident.
Had the UCO for a good while now, great product but....I've found that if you buy the cheaper non genuine candles they don't last as long. Also they jam up the spring due to wax leaking down the tube and this stops the candle self feeding as it burns, which can be a pain to clean before you can put a new candle in. So....worth the extra £££ for the better quality candles.
Hi, Hmm that was quite interesting, first time watching a video about thise kind of camping lights, both seems to have good pros and cons so its equal score kinda. I myself use alcohol stove when outdoors so maybe UCo is a bit better but then I will really miss that you can make a better stronger adjustable light using gas can and do stuff in the tent! I dont own any of them but it would be very difficult for me to choose which to buy. Or maybe a candle one and then if I want to read etc then I have my NU25 headlamp that I can also use for extea light or my other Olight lamp. Atb Gregory
FYI there's an Alpkit sale ending now where 450g canisters are £3.49 each. If you happen to need anything else to bulk the order to free delivery.... Dave did you ever weigh the fuel consumption per period? I've just today ordered this candle and I see differing reviews of 1g/hour to 4g/hour. I'll measure it myself at home this week so I know what to expect. However if you took Firemaple's statement of 4g/hour and assumed even if you did use 100g canisters you refilled them from the 450g canisters you got in a sale that's a fuel cost of 0.8p/g so 4g/hour = 3p/hour. I agree with you'd go with the FM candle to complement the gas stove you'd have and just size the gas canister to suit the cooking style and duration so you're really only packing the candle and the associated extra gas fuel, which if like me I always go out with a full (refilled) 100g canister is this basically just if the trip is so long the candle makes you need to carry a larger canister instead. What I have been doing is Trangia cooking and just refill the meths and keep on lowest simmer to get a bit of heat then go to sleep with Trangia in the middle of a porch knowing it will simply burn low and slow and automatically go out. That does help a little with condensation as in winter I'm cooking in the vestibule anyway, releasing moisture from cooking anyway so burning some meths to help evaporate the condensation makes sense. Currently trying to migrate to gas to reduce bulk.
Could you advise if the Fire Maple provide much warmth and could be used to provide some heat in a small space? (Obviously not left running too long in an enclosed space for fumes to build up!)
Having the Fire Maple lantern which uses the same isobutane canisters as a tiny stove would be a nice combination. Hanging a UCO from the roof of a tent works very well for controlling condensation throughout the night and makes for far more pleasant sleeping.
Thanks for your informative and most interesting video. All the best for your continued success in 2024.
Thanks old chap. ATB to you too
Excellent video David. I've never been a fan of cheap petroleum candles myself. There like passive smoking, they evaporate and end up in your lungs. Like yourself, I always use beeswax more expensive but you get what you pay for and much better for your health. A point of interest beeswax wax burns much brighter than petroleum. Thanks David.
Stay cozy my little sausage, for the icy winds and cold are upon us with great vigur and succulentness!!!!
Well I have been called some things!.....
This little gas lantern looks fantastic, I had no about Maple products. Thanks again Dave I always enjoy your videos, and learn a lot from you.
Thanks 👍thats appreciated. I am learning all the time too and like to share that. I gues its just our time and place.
I've just received and tested at home the Fire Maple Orange Lantern. I found I needed to gently bend one of the catches within to make glass slot in and rotate easier.
I benchmarked its fuel usage, I lowered the flame to the MAXIMUM you'd be prepared to accept in a tent where the flame is just below the top of the glass. I used 11 grams in 1 hour 10 mins. So significantly more than 4g/hour. I suspect 4g/hour is when you set it to much lower.
So if you were thinking of using for keeping tent warmer/drier you'd be needing to think of carrying a lot more gas. I consume for cooking average 13g/day, so 100g = 6 days, but If I were to use this for say 4 hour for winter light+warmth in vestibule then that 100g canister would just about last 2 days.
Great information, thank you.
Great comparison! I've had a few UCO's for years and have loved them. The Fire Maple does seem to be better overall but the one advantage I'd give to the UCO is that the lantern and fuel come in a much smaller package compared to the Fire Maple with a separate fuel canister. I'll still probably pick up a Fire Maple😄
You'll not regret it.
Use the lantern for that cosy glow with a head torch on low for reading. 😉
I like it Derek!
I commented on TOGR channel about being interested in this lantern and you referred me to your video. Your review in thorough and informative, you did a good job. Don't know if I'm going to get it yet but your review will help in my decision making process. Good job, keep up the good work.
Cheers Tim that's appreciated
Having backpacked for years using the French made precursor to the UCO, I would hands down only use that style, versus the other. It has to do with light, safety and packaging. Never heat.
Great comment, but heat is a thing for many.
@@Fellmandave1 In the places I have been, the heat is not consequential. When I did spelunking, sometimes you would put a candle or your carbide lantern under your jacket to trap the heat. iMHO you shynot rely on such things for heat, because when you are out of fuel for it, then what? Also, in AK a study was done on survival issues. People who built a shelter first, lived. People who built a fire forsi, did not. So please be careful with where your thoughts can take you, without warning.
Love it Dave 😁
The Fire Maple gets my vote. I'm thinking it would be nice in our house as a back up or for a little ambient lighting as we live off grid.
Cheers 😁
yes Andy, I agree, the video does not do it adequate justice, plus where you are you can probably get the stitched leather canister cover which really sets it off.
I just got for similar reasons. But I also own a lot of ethanol fuel which may work out cheaper per hour where weigtht/volume isn't so critical. Just ordered some wicks and I'll make some ethanol candles and try them at home before deciding what goes camping.
The issue with condensation in winter i am familiar with I used the bombproof Trangia with simmer ring on lowest before, a low stable basis to be difficult to have an accident.
Had the UCO for a good while now, great product but....I've found that if you buy the cheaper non genuine candles they don't last as long. Also they jam up the spring due to wax leaking down the tube and this stops the candle self feeding as it burns, which can be a pain to clean before you can put a new candle in. So....worth the extra £££ for the better quality candles.
That gunked spring is not fun! Thanks for commenting.
Hi, Hmm that was quite interesting, first time watching a video about thise kind of camping lights, both seems to have good pros and cons so its equal score kinda.
I myself use alcohol stove when outdoors so maybe UCo is a bit better but then I will really miss that you can make a better stronger adjustable light using gas can and do stuff in the tent!
I dont own any of them but it would be very difficult for me to choose which to buy.
Or maybe a candle one and then if I want to read etc then I have my NU25 headlamp that I can also use for extea light or my other Olight lamp.
Atb Gregory
thanks for watching and commenting Gregory, my advice, get both!
I ordered the fire maple 2 days ago
@michaelbrunner6654 enjoy Michael!
FYI there's an Alpkit sale ending now where 450g canisters are £3.49 each. If you happen to need anything else to bulk the order to free delivery....
Dave did you ever weigh the fuel consumption per period? I've just today ordered this candle and I see differing reviews of 1g/hour to 4g/hour. I'll measure it myself at home this week so I know what to expect. However if you took Firemaple's statement of 4g/hour and assumed even if you did use 100g canisters you refilled them from the 450g canisters you got in a sale that's a fuel cost of 0.8p/g so 4g/hour = 3p/hour.
I agree with you'd go with the FM candle to complement the gas stove you'd have and just size the gas canister to suit the cooking style and duration so you're really only packing the candle and the associated extra gas fuel, which if like me I always go out with a full (refilled) 100g canister is this basically just if the trip is so long the candle makes you need to carry a larger canister instead.
What I have been doing is Trangia cooking and just refill the meths and keep on lowest simmer to get a bit of heat then go to sleep with Trangia in the middle of a porch knowing it will simply burn low and slow and automatically go out. That does help a little with condensation as in winter I'm cooking in the vestibule anyway, releasing moisture from cooking anyway so burning some meths to help evaporate the condensation makes sense. Currently trying to migrate to gas to reduce bulk.
Most useful . Thanks!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it Peter.
Could you advise if the Fire Maple provide much warmth and could be used to provide some heat in a small space? (Obviously not left running too long in an enclosed space for fumes to build up!)
Have you seen my candle heating a tent videos from a couple of years sgo. Think that plus proportionally MORE.
how long is the fire maple burning for??
Between 4g and 11g per hour. So it depends on the size of the canister.