No race to a Civic type R non-reveal first-to-the-web report?!!! Thanks for actually displaying maturity and original thought regarding your content. This is a sensible vehicle and a sensible review. Porridge. Keep up the great work!
Yeah, none of the rollout reviews are really adding anything to Honda's PR video. No sense reviewing a car you can't drive to actually experience. Oatmeal with some cinnamon.
You guys had way more fun driving this thing on a track than any other car you've reviewed. I'm now taking out a 96 month loan on a kia sportage, the dealer says its only a $12,000 markup I think I got a good deal. I'm bringing it to the nerdturdring next week, gonna set a new PBR.
Americans are getting bigger and bigger every year. I drive a Buick Verano which is the size of a Cruze. Every time I go to Europe on vacation and come back my Verano feels like a large sedan.
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. lol well I personally like compact or midsize automobiles my self not really into full size cars and bigger my compact Kia Sportage is just perfect size for me😁
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. Americans are fat, yes, but they're also in this weird arms race to drive the biggest goddamn vehicle on the road. If I had a dime for every tryhard douche I see driving a Sierra 2500HD or F-250 Super Duty who NEVER tows or hauls anything, I'd be a rich man.
ive noticed that with all cars. a new compact truck is as big as a 99 3/4 ton truck. honda civics are as big a full size cars a decade ago. i dont understand.
Test drove an EX Hybrid yesterday. Loved it. But the Kia dealership added a $5000 "adjusted market value" to it. 15% mark up. Went from $34k to $43k out the door.
If you really want to get anything these days, you have to increase your search range to find a good deal and talk straight about OTD price with your own one in mind...
Remember this is a mid-range EX affordable hybrid so the audio is not premium. Definitely a value. First-rate photography, looks like it was graded in post!
When I test drove one of these I noticed a very smooth/luxurious ride, some body roll but plenty of grip at the same time. This vehicle feels quicker 0 to 60 than it is on paper but it does seem to run out of steam over 80 mph. For $32,500 and up to 40 mpg combined I highly recommend this vehicle. The front headroom is not great but it just makes the cut for me. I could not really notice a difference with the drive modes.
Even though I'm not a car guy, even I know that taking a Sportage to a race track is just heresy. Could always test how many Yuri's and Jacob's could fit in the back with the backseats folded down.
Great car, but good luck getting one. I was told more than 10 months wait for a factory order about 2 months ago. Ended up getting a Tucson instead under 2 months.
Great hybrids. It's a pity the dealers are killing it with "negotiable" markups. 8k 10k markups out here in LA. I see a 5% interest rate and a markup..fuk that noise. I can pay for the gas with a ICE car for 3 years instead.
Oh my god a midsized family CUV, JUST what the doctor ordered. Thank god. My wife’s work friend Todd said he was looking for space in the back to go on road trips with my wife! She’s so happy when they hang out together
Technically, the Sportage is a compact SUV, not a Midsized... but it's one of the largest compact SUVs and almost the same size as "midsized" SUVs... much like it's twin, the Hyundai Tucson 2022-2023.
My girlfriend and I recently picked up an X-Line version of this. It is the first Kia for both of us.There are so many good things about it, namely the looks, the interior, the fit and finish, that I try to overlook the issues it has. It rides very nice, but as you can see in the video, it has excessive body roll. That's to say nothing about the wonky-ass transmission this thing has. The hybrid might fix that major issue and I'd be okay with that. However, I would like it if I felt comfortable doing more than 40 MPH on my local on-ramp. It's kind of a bummer because I REALLY like this vehicle otherwise. Drive it before you buy it. Take it on the highway in cruise control. Make sure you can deal with it. I want to like it more than I do...
@@busterscrugs Mine is not the CVT, it's the 8 speed auto. I have a Subaru with a CVT and that is MUCH better than what Kia is bringing to the table with this one. We've had two Elantra's in the past with the 6 speed auto and they felt much better. Also, had a bunch of Honda's, and I really think they might have one of the best CVTs in the business. I'm not going to crap on a good CVT, they're good for daily do-it-all stuff.
@@th003g It was available when we needed it. Also, dealership made a pretty big mistake so we got a KILLER (like 3K off sticker) deal. I might try the PHEV when that comes out because it will, supposedly, carry the X-Line trim package with the Prestige goodies. Like an X-Pro Prestige with a hybrid. I'd be willing to at least drive one.
In Australia, we have a bespoke tune for the suspension led by an ex-racer. This removes almost all the ride issues mentioned, and makes it a lot more attractive!
Simlar to my 17 Hyundai Sonata hybrid. Good tech (at the time) and comfortable ride. Same problem (only major one) with the kick down which I think is dangerous. Try to merge on hwy and the car refuse to kick down for couple seconds and no power at all. It actually react better when I don't step on it.
@@silverfox1234 I thought this is only the last gen issue but still exists. The plug in using the same system and transmission so I believe would behave the same.
I experienced the exact same problem when I test drove one 2 weeks ago. Tried to merge onto the highway and no power at all which was very scary. That helped me make the decision to pass on this it. Very disappointing.
Yeah, I just got this car a few weeks ago. I’m pretty happy with it so far. I need a good 2-3 hour drive to see how the MPGs do. Overall I’m pleased. Good review.
My big complain with the audio system, specifically the Harmon system is that there’s no dedicated subwoofer. All the bass comes from the lower speakers in the door. No bass comes from the rear door speakers either. It can get muddy at higher volumes and the bass not coming from the back removes that bass you can feel.
That EV to ICE thing you guys experienced, sounds like the thing we had on the 1st generation Optima hybrid, before they did the update to fix that. It would be in EV up to 25MPH before the gas engine came on, which made for a scary experience to merge on to a highway from a stop. Since then, they didn’t do that anymore on the Optima hybrid, you want power, you got it no matter what mode you were in. Great review guys!
H/K tuned their hybrids to start and stay in RV mode as much as possible The only way to prevent the Sportage from starting off in EV mode is to switch to Sport mode. It's something I have learned after renting a Sonata Hybrid for a few days.
@@JT-fq2bl True however, they will kick on the ICE system if you give it more acceleration and use both to power the vehicle. The newer systems had bigger electric motor that can power the wheels up to 80 mph, if you had batter power from start. I would drive my 2016 Optima hybrid in Sport mode to build up the battery, then I could drive for a few miles in EV mode around town. That instant torque off the line was fun and got me into EVs later.
I really like the styling, interior and out, and in something like this I too want a soft ride. I would be taking it around town where the roads are lousy, or down dirt roads to get to the mountain biking trails. My one concern is long-term reliability, any thoughts on that?
I bought a 2023 Sportage EX FWD gas-powered without the stupid sunroof. I'm getting over 40mpg on the highway and around 25 in the city becuas I keep it in smart more, I don't driveike a maniac, and kept it under $30K.
Been really liking Kia style these days. But did they hire they kid who designed the outgoing Civic type R? That is the busiest front end I've ever seen🤨
I liked this hybrid system in my friends older Sonata. Would really need to compare it directly with Toyota to know which I like better, but I bet KIA would win this one.
Is it cheaper for Hyundai/Kia to use DCT/Conventional automatics in their hybrids? The reason I’m asking cause it seems like a transmission just adds more unnecessary weight to the car, not to mention an extra mechanical part to take care of.
It's easy to package this style hybrid into a vehicle also sold with conventional powertrains. The Prius-style hybrid is quite different in its shape and requires more engineering to fit.
Trying to decide between the Sportage SX Prestige and the Toyota Venza Limited. A few things on the Kia concern me such as reliability of the small turbo engine mated to the hybrid system. I have read that turbos run at high temperatures, and that the constant starting and stopping of the turbo engine when on/off electric power will lead to turbo problems. Anyone else heard of this? Also, I have read that the Harmon Kardon stereo is not good, and that the heated windshield elements are causing glare problems at night for some people. The Venza doesn't have a turbo on their hybrid, and it has a highly rated JBL sound system. But most reviews complain about some engine and road noise. But I think I have a Toyota bias due to their long term reliability. Thoughts?
10:02 YES, Soft ride is KING... Like most regular folks, I WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER track and drive like these two drive in this video. SOLF, Comfortable suspension
Much prefer normal-car feel to CVT. And I do not care if this car has a sporty feel. I do wish this car came in the Vesta blue and blue-gray interior for the SX trim.
@@SingletonD well, mainly the price as my dealership offered the cheapest for the vehicle and if you get the mid range with tech package; lots of money saved.
On Saturday my one-owner 1999 Subaru Forester succumbed to an evil PA pothole. Ripped open the rear strut tower. RIP Subie. Today I will be out and about looking for a new ride. I'm leaning towards the Sportage, Niro or Venza hybrids.
Great video like always, please @savagegeese do the review about the 2023 Mitsubishi outlander PHEV, some dealers already have the preproduction sample. I would like to see your opinion about this car. Thank you!
4:48 -- What are those bolted to the front subframe? Just little bent-metal brackets? One's holding up the exhaust and the other's holding... what are those pipes?
I was waiting for 23 crv but after the reveal & seeing it, I walked away feeling disappointed in the small things. I placed a order for the sx prestige hybird, i think this offers the best bang for the buck for all the bells & whistles. Just gotta wait for it to come in but not paying any mark up.
the new CRV is rather lame yeah.. the kia sportage in wolf gray with red interior knocks it out of the PARK styling wise vs the CRV. Which interior color did you get?(not black right?)
Also no spare tire in the new CRV Hybrid. Understandable because of the battery placement but kinda lame considering both Venza and Sportage offer it! Must have for long drives.
Come on guys....I drive a 2022 Tucson Hybrid and I would say that 99.5% of time the startup of the gasoline engine from EV mode is COMPLETELY imperceptible. Even while rolling. Totally different experience than the usual CVT/hybrid drivetrains
@@iamthedutchbro I said the same thing for many years, just like tools like you say. However, it is a very good, useful daily driver that gets excellent fuel economy. One day that may matter to you.
@@dragospahontu You may be right, but it depends on how you define "better". If you mean better fuel economy, then I would agree. But if you mean better driving experience, um, no.
Makes me vaguely want one even though it's not in my need set right now. Love the space since I'm a hot hatch lover that stuffed everything in my vw r32 in the day
Thanks for another great review guys. I really wanted one without having ever driven or even sat in (silly) but after seeing this i dont anymore! It seems to struggle with even slightly enthusiastic driving… strictly a cool modern get the commute, kids, and misc done type of vehicle. I think if they werent so hard to get along with the Rav4 hyrids and readily available to test drive and buy at least 30% of people who currently “need” one will move on to other options.
You would have to test drive one. I was impressed enough to put my self on a list to get one incoming. If the 2023 Prius does not work for me then I will settle for this EX Sportage Hybrid.
I'd go for the Kia Carnival if it was an AWD plug in Hybrid. I'd like the room of a minivan, the awd for up north winter weather plus any bonus hybrid electric motors could give like in a Toyota Rav4 Prime. 400-600mi range I'd gladly buy that vehicle.. This shortage isn't bad though if it could last me 300k miles
how often do you change the temperature on an automatic climate control system? I've had a VW Jetta GLI for 11 years and I leave it on 72 Auto for 99% of the time I've driven it. I do NOT see the 2 function system as an issue. just leave it on Radio mode and you'll be fine.
Put on 235/45r18 tires(thinner sidewall) lower it down to car level. Boom, wagon. That is what we want. Honestly i would even go thinner tires like a 225/50r18 for better comfort/economy. I bet dropping it an inch and changing the tire you can possibly get 43-45mpg.
Watch his review of the 2022 Tucson (which is no different than the 2023 Tucson)... it's clear he hated the exterior styling of the 2022 Tucson, though he seemed perfectly fine with the vehicle as a whole mechanically and drive-train (which is identical to the Sportage), i think because he didn't like the exterior he nitpicked at every minor cosmetic thing he could on the Tucson. Having said that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... everything he hated about the "look" of the 2022 Tucson I thought looked great, and I now own a 2023 Tucson Hybrid... I consider the 2023 Sportage my SUV's twin brother, just with a different style. Of the two, I prefer the Tucson, but I get it, everyone has different preferences in style. Savagegeese basically said the Tucson was "too stand-outish" and in this video he liked that the Sportage "blended in" with other SUVs... too me, that's boring... I want my car to be a head-turner, not blend in with every other SUV. My bottom line, both the 2023 Tucson Hybrid and Sportage Hybrid are great Compact SUVs. Go with whichever you can get a better deal on and/or whichever styling appeals to you the most... you can't go wrong with either.
@@wolfshanze5980 thanks for your comprehensive feedback. I purchased the Sportage. TBH I like them both. I went with the Sportage because the price was more attractive. I love the front of the Tucson when the lights are off and the front of the Sportage is a bit busy. The rear of both are attractive however if the Sportage rear lights connected it will give it a more prestigious look. My son thinks the Tucson rear lights look like spider legs. I dont like the creases on the side of the Tucson and it will be a nightmare to repair the doors if they are damaged. Interior of both are nice but I think the Tucson edged out the Sportage because of the piano black in the center console, however the Sportage drivers display has a wow factor to it. Drove both and the Sportage has better driving dynamics.
Wondering if the touch screen color (purple) can be adjusted. I have it stuck in my head since seeing the Straight Pipes guys that indeed the monocolor scheme makes it hard to easily identify the different options.
I think that you guys would have had a much different verdict in winter. We have the sister vehicle, ‘22 Tucson Hybrid, and the winter fuel economy is atrocious. Most electrified vehicles have this issue but this one seems to be particularly bad. In February, on a drive from Milwaukee to Rockford IL, we averaged 22.3 MPG at 71 MPH AVG speed.Typically when not only driving in city, our winter averages are in the mid 20s. I just don’t think this is good enough, I expect a hit in winter to fuel economy but getting low 20s on the highway in winter could be a dealbreaker.
Out of the brands with these types of suvs, which ones don't have that issue of lag before giving power? I'd like a car that will go when I tell it to. I'm looking at CX5, Rav4, maybe CX50, and I can't even think of what else is out there. I've heard of so many problems with chevys and ford's that I am tempted to stay away from them.
Just avoid turbo engines and they should behave as you expect. The Mazdas are very reasonable choices, let down mainly by poor gas mileage and dated infotainment systems.
Don't really care about Type R right now. Every channel gives the same limited reveal. I rather wait til it's fully available for track, dyno, and tested without the NDA restrictions.
I am getting one now, at around $43000 equivalent in EU. Loads of tech, upper middle spec, and compared to RAV4 it's a car from the future. MPGs might be lower on a KIA, but the comfort, space and style is the upside. In current marked you have to wait for the rav4 for 11 months xD at price +30% of Sportage. For lower and older tech, much more cheap plastic feel and garbage infotainment. KIA will be at my doorstep in 3 months. TY SG :)
I just don't understand why they did another heavy refresh. The new Sportage released during the pandemic and it's not like they were readily available. I know they like major refresh every 2 years but this time it seems like they refreshed it a year later.
No race to a Civic type R non-reveal first-to-the-web report?!!! Thanks for actually displaying maturity and original thought regarding your content. This is a sensible vehicle and a sensible review. Porridge. Keep up the great work!
GOD I love some good porridge. Sometimes you just need to eat.
Yeah, none of the rollout reviews are really adding anything to Honda's PR video. No sense reviewing a car you can't drive to actually experience.
Oatmeal with some cinnamon.
You guys had way more fun driving this thing on a track than any other car you've reviewed. I'm now taking out a 96 month loan on a kia sportage, the dealer says its only a $12,000 markup I think I got a good deal. I'm bringing it to the nerdturdring next week, gonna set a new PBR.
12,000k mark up!. Not sure if sarcasm or not...
I actually saw a gas Sportage at 49k in dfw. Maybe go for the 108 month deal
@@rajatdixit007 96m loan and nerdturdring so he def joking
If you invest those monthly payments in stocks for 96 months, you’ll be able to buy a 2030 KIA in cash you earned in investments
@@hockey1freak really this is the give away? How about driving in on the track for the most fun ever
This new Sportage is as big as the 2012 Sorento was when it came out.
Take a look at the RAV4 1st gen to now; it basically went from a Jimny to LandCruiser
Americans are getting bigger and bigger every year. I drive a Buick Verano which is the size of a Cruze. Every time I go to Europe on vacation and come back my Verano feels like a large sedan.
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. lol well I personally like compact or midsize automobiles my self not really into full size cars and bigger my compact Kia Sportage is just perfect size for me😁
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. Americans are fat, yes, but they're also in this weird arms race to drive the biggest goddamn vehicle on the road. If I had a dime for every tryhard douche I see driving a Sierra 2500HD or F-250 Super Duty who NEVER tows or hauls anything, I'd be a rich man.
ive noticed that with all cars. a new compact truck is as big as a 99 3/4 ton truck. honda civics are as big a full size cars a decade ago. i dont understand.
This whole video felt like you all were like, "ugh let's just get this over with". Haha
so edgy
@@Gatsun what is?
I'm glad to see that not everyone wants a sporty ride. Not all cars are sportscars. Ahem! (Insert reviewer here)
Sport age
@@spuddie3207 1st gen was a body on frame suv. And s in suv is sport. So...... Tahoe cherokee suburban ect should also drive like vettes? Right....
@@blue_lancer_es I don't think that that's dumb
Your pals at Autobahn must have cracked up at seeing this on the track.
"Interesting" is the best word to describe how this car looks
“Unique”
_"Maybe you live in interesting times."_ - Chinese curse
Test drove an EX Hybrid yesterday. Loved it. But the Kia dealership added a $5000 "adjusted market value" to it. 15% mark up. Went from $34k to $43k out the door.
If you really want to get anything these days, you have to increase your search range to find a good deal and talk straight about OTD price with your own one in mind...
I bought the same model this week at MSRP. My dealer doesn’t make “market adjustments”.
@@swollcracker3993 what city/state?
Lol mark ups for a f****** Kia.
No!
How does $34 + 5 = $43?
Remember this is a mid-range EX affordable hybrid so the audio is not premium. Definitely a value.
First-rate photography, looks like it was graded in post!
The jack giggle fest mid-corner is always the best add to these videos
He nearly expired this time
When I test drove one of these I noticed a very smooth/luxurious ride, some body roll but plenty of grip at the same time.
This vehicle feels quicker 0 to 60 than it is on paper but it does seem to run out of steam over 80 mph.
For $32,500 and up to 40 mpg combined I highly recommend this vehicle.
The front headroom is not great but it just makes the cut for me.
I could not really notice a difference with the drive modes.
Even though I'm not a car guy, even I know that taking a Sportage to a race track is just heresy. Could always test how many Yuri's and Jacob's could fit in the back with the backseats folded down.
Great car, but good luck getting one. I was told more than 10 months wait for a factory order about 2 months ago. Ended up getting a Tucson instead under 2 months.
I lucked out getting the non hybrid prestige I suppose. It was more difficult finding the hybrid prestige.
There are a ton in stock here
Great hybrids. It's a pity the dealers are killing it with "negotiable" markups. 8k 10k markups out here in LA.
I see a 5% interest rate and a markup..fuk that noise. I can pay for the gas with a ICE car for 3 years instead.
Oh my god a midsized family CUV, JUST what the doctor ordered. Thank god. My wife’s work friend Todd said he was looking for space in the back to go on road trips with my wife! She’s so happy when they hang out together
Hear ya.
Technically, the Sportage is a compact SUV, not a Midsized... but it's one of the largest compact SUVs and almost the same size as "midsized" SUVs... much like it's twin, the Hyundai Tucson 2022-2023.
Remember when texting and driving was illegal? Now we have computers and monitors to use while driving! Movie road trip incoming
My girlfriend and I recently picked up an X-Line version of this. It is the first Kia for both of us.There are so many good things about it, namely the looks, the interior, the fit and finish, that I try to overlook the issues it has. It rides very nice, but as you can see in the video, it has excessive body roll. That's to say nothing about the wonky-ass transmission this thing has. The hybrid might fix that major issue and I'd be okay with that. However, I would like it if I felt comfortable doing more than 40 MPH on my local on-ramp. It's kind of a bummer because I REALLY like this vehicle otherwise. Drive it before you buy it. Take it on the highway in cruise control. Make sure you can deal with it. I want to like it more than I do...
Should've gotten they hybrid, the base gas engine is barely adequate, too bad the trim you got is not available with hybrid.
what's wonky about the transmission behavior? I drove my buddy's elantra recently and thought the transmission behaved really well for a CVT.
@@busterscrugs Mine is not the CVT, it's the 8 speed auto. I have a Subaru with a CVT and that is MUCH better than what Kia is bringing to the table with this one. We've had two Elantra's in the past with the 6 speed auto and they felt much better. Also, had a bunch of Honda's, and I really think they might have one of the best CVTs in the business. I'm not going to crap on a good CVT, they're good for daily do-it-all stuff.
@@th003g It was available when we needed it. Also, dealership made a pretty big mistake so we got a KILLER (like 3K off sticker) deal. I might try the PHEV when that comes out because it will, supposedly, carry the X-Line trim package with the Prestige goodies. Like an X-Pro Prestige with a hybrid. I'd be willing to at least drive one.
Buyetrcrv
5:23 Finally! There it is. I was at the self-checkout with my Spotage and could not find the damn bar code to scan. Jeesh.
y'all ought to take all suv's to the track from now on lol, that was a lot of fun to watch!
I've been to Autobahn a few times with a friend who raced his Porsche there. Have to admit I've never seen anything like this carving the turns there.
Mark's new helmet is dope
In Australia, we have a bespoke tune for the suspension led by an ex-racer. This removes almost all the ride issues mentioned, and makes it a lot more attractive!
What issues? If you want a soft riding SUV, this is it. (Also the Kelly Brook review has said this is quieter than a Lexus UX.)
The way those tires sqeal like a small mouse when in snow mode really makes my junk twitch. Nothing else I could ask for 🥰
Wait how’d you make this comment “3d ago?” 😂
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@@franstanade Good eye lmfao.
What do you expect from the Goodyear Assurance Finesse! One of the very high performance tires!
Nate the junk twitching legend
What's the recommended Continental tire and how did it handle in Cliche Cornfield?
I wish the Hybrid FWD was availible in the higher trims (at least for the US) so I could get that extra combined 5 mpg. It's also 200 Lbs lighter.
It’s just too much torque for two wheels.
@@emotionz3 it uses the same engine for all trim levels though?
Simlar to my 17 Hyundai Sonata hybrid. Good tech (at the time) and comfortable ride.
Same problem (only major one) with the kick down which I think is dangerous. Try to merge on hwy and the car refuse to kick down for couple seconds and no power at all. It actually react better when I don't step on it.
Do you think the same issue would exist in the plug in hybrid model?
@@silverfox1234 I thought this is only the last gen issue but still exists. The plug in using the same system and transmission so I believe would behave the same.
That is why i use manual mode and downshift manually before actually push the pedal
I experienced the exact same problem when I test drove one 2 weeks ago. Tried to merge onto the highway and no power at all which was very scary. That helped me make the decision to pass on this it. Very disappointing.
@@trixsta54 what did you end up purchasing (if you have)?
I swear half the time I am laughing is just because Jack is laughing. 😂😂
Yeah, I just got this car a few weeks ago. I’m pretty happy with it so far. I need a good 2-3 hour drive to see how the MPGs do. Overall I’m pleased. Good review.
Is the drive suspension firm or soft?
A lesson I learned about buying a car for fuel economy: TEST DRIVE IN THE WINTER ❄️ ♻️ ⬇️
What’s the update on the mpg?
Any update on how it's handling for you so far?
2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid: The official car of chauffeuring your dad’s girlfriends.
Great video. Love you guys
I love the look of this thing... don't worry Jack I still have eyes for you too 😘 ❤️
Glad. for your crv comment. Would love for a comparison when it is out for testing. The Sportage interior tries so much harder and wins points.
Honestly Crv is a joke compared to the Sportage. Interior, exterior, powertrain nothing to complain really.
1:35 If I felt like I was swimming I would be inspired to make trash fashion (inside joke from Mia, sustainable artist).
The thought of this Kia Sportage having more track time than many Corvettes and Mustangs is downright depressing.
Wasn’t expecting a track impression 👍👍
"my dad's girlfriends"... he hit the nail on the head.
My big complain with the audio system, specifically the Harmon system is that there’s no dedicated subwoofer. All the bass comes from the lower speakers in the door. No bass comes from the rear door speakers either. It can get muddy at higher volumes and the bass not coming from the back removes that bass you can feel.
I dunno about the front end...looks like a Pontiac Aztek for the 21st Century.
"NPC elements" is a fantastic term that I'm stealing now
Kias are great! I rear-ended a Sorento 15 years ago with my dad's Skoda Fabia. 10/10 would hit again.
That EV to ICE thing you guys experienced, sounds like the thing we had on the 1st generation Optima hybrid, before they did the update to fix that. It would be in EV up to 25MPH before the gas engine came on, which made for a scary experience to merge on to a highway from a stop. Since then, they didn’t do that anymore on the Optima hybrid, you want power, you got it no matter what mode you were in. Great review guys!
H/K tuned their hybrids to start and stay in RV mode as much as possible The only way to prevent the Sportage from starting off in EV mode is to switch to Sport mode. It's something I have learned after renting a Sonata Hybrid for a few days.
@@JT-fq2bl True however, they will kick on the ICE system if you give it more acceleration and use both to power the vehicle. The newer systems had bigger electric motor that can power the wheels up to 80 mph, if you had batter power from start. I would drive my 2016 Optima hybrid in Sport mode to build up the battery, then I could drive for a few miles in EV mode around town. That instant torque off the line was fun and got me into EVs later.
I really like the styling, interior and out, and in something like this I too want a soft ride. I would be taking it around town where the roads are lousy, or down dirt roads to get to the mountain biking trails. My one concern is long-term reliability, any thoughts on that?
I can't be the only one that sees NIN when they see the new Kia logo. Nine Inch Nails should market their own replacement badges.
I bought a 2023 Sportage EX FWD gas-powered without the stupid sunroof. I'm getting over 40mpg on the highway and around 25 in the city becuas I keep it in smart more, I don't driveike a maniac, and kept it under $30K.
How come you didn’t get all wheel drive instead?
@@jeremyshearer3885 Because I don't need it?
But driving like a maniac is more fun...
Great choice. Sportage is the uncrowned king of the segment.
Been really liking Kia style these days. But did they hire they kid who designed the outgoing Civic type R? That is the busiest front end I've ever seen🤨
yup, kia civic type R. designed by toddlers for toddlers. my local kia dealership was fresh out of them too, must be a supply chain issue.
The Kia dealerships in my area suck so much I can’t even consider them without driving at least 100mi always to find a fair deal.
Where do you live?
A little past the 12 minute mark, “I was getting like 31-35 mpg’s but then again I was driving like an idiot.” Classic.
Bird chirpping is a nice touch
These guys are hilarious & know their stuff
I liked this hybrid system in my friends older Sonata. Would really need to compare it directly with Toyota to know which I like better, but I bet KIA would win this one.
I’ll trade in my GT3 for this brilliance
Godvforbyoy
Is it cheaper for Hyundai/Kia to use DCT/Conventional automatics in their hybrids? The reason I’m asking cause it seems like a transmission just adds more unnecessary weight to the car, not to mention an extra mechanical part to take care of.
It’s cheaper not to completely develop a new Aisin style E-CVT
It's easy to package this style hybrid into a vehicle also sold with conventional powertrains. The Prius-style hybrid is quite different in its shape and requires more engineering to fit.
@@markmiller3279 Sounds like hybrid setup wasn't the priority when developing the N3 architecture.
Yeah the ux here is f'd up.
Trying to decide between the Sportage SX Prestige and the Toyota Venza Limited. A few things on the Kia concern me such as reliability of the small turbo engine mated to the hybrid system. I have read that turbos run at high temperatures, and that the constant starting and stopping of the turbo engine when on/off electric power will lead to turbo problems. Anyone else heard of this? Also, I have read that the Harmon Kardon stereo is not good, and that the heated windshield elements are causing glare problems at night for some people.
The Venza doesn't have a turbo on their hybrid, and it has a highly rated JBL sound system. But most reviews complain about some engine and road noise. But I think I have a Toyota bias due to their long term reliability. Thoughts?
10:02 YES, Soft ride is KING... Like most regular folks, I WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER track and drive like these two drive in this video. SOLF, Comfortable suspension
Much prefer normal-car feel to CVT. And I do not care if this car has a sporty feel. I do wish this car came in the Vesta blue and blue-gray interior for the SX trim.
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I would of considered this, but the dealerships are the worst period and settled on a Mazda Cx 5 (no regrets)
Why didn't you wait for the CX-50?
@@SingletonD well, mainly the price as my dealership offered the cheapest for the vehicle and if you get the mid range with tech package; lots of money saved.
You made the right choice. The Mazda will be a lot better in terms of long term maintenance than the sportage.
@@-Unguardian- That's fair. The CX 5 is a good car and pretty popular. Best driving experience in the class. It is just too small for me. Have fun!
You should look around harder. Sportage is just brilliant inside & out. The hybrid especially is the king of the segment.
Will this vehicle last for 12-15 years?
LMAO no way
Lol. No. These flavor of the moment vehicles will appear and disappear quickly from roadways.
No. Its a KIA it wont last much longer than its warranty.
Sitting in your garage, no problem.
Have been driving one into 12th years. I would say it is possible.
Honest review lads.....👍
I like the interior and exterior looks of the Sportage Hybrid. My only concern would be with the turbo/hybrid combination long term reliability.
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@@sharonbraselton3135 Huh?
@@audiophanatic4331 LMFAO
On Saturday my one-owner 1999 Subaru Forester succumbed to an evil PA pothole. Ripped open the rear strut tower. RIP Subie. Today I will be out and about looking for a new ride. I'm leaning towards the Sportage, Niro or Venza hybrids.
oh man i had a mouth full of breakfast burrito when the mask on the forehead shot came up hahaha
Great video like always, please @savagegeese do the review about the 2023 Mitsubishi outlander PHEV, some dealers already have the preproduction sample. I would like to see your opinion about this car. Thank you!
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@savagegeese - confirming the model you had was the base audio system (not the optional upgraded audio system)?
They were in a mid-trim Sportage, you only get premium audio in top-trim, so yes, it was the default audio system.
The Topher tested the Harman/Kardon speakers and he wasn’t impressed with their output either vs. competitive premium speaker setups in other cars.
Question: I have the 23 Kia sportage with grey seats and I have blue jean stains that I've tried everything to get out. Any suggestions ?
Another cuv to fade into the background on my commute, disappearing from memory as quickly and as uneventfully as a sneeze.
I thought the Sportage was too boring-looking... it's why I bought a 2023 Tucson Hybrid... it turns heads.
4:48 -- What are those bolted to the front subframe? Just little bent-metal brackets? One's holding up the exhaust and the other's holding... what are those pipes?
See end of shop segment
Coolant tubes that help heat up coolant from exhaust.
@@savagegeese The brackets look so flimsy to me, though.
@@LJ-wo1wf Its premium materials machined with the soul of Korea.
@@savagegeese "Seoul"... ;). Wait, I thought this was the Sportage, not the Soul..
1:36 "That's what you want"
Me: "well, no act..."
"THAT'S WHAT YOUWANT!!!!"
That in car segment was hilarious
I was waiting for 23 crv but after the reveal & seeing it, I walked away feeling disappointed in the small things.
I placed a order for the sx prestige hybird, i think this offers the best bang for the buck for all the bells & whistles.
Just gotta wait for it to come in but not paying any mark up.
the new CRV is rather lame yeah.. the kia sportage in wolf gray with red interior knocks it out of the PARK styling wise vs the CRV. Which interior color did you get?(not black right?)
Also no spare tire in the new CRV Hybrid. Understandable because of the battery placement but kinda lame considering both Venza and Sportage offer it! Must have for long drives.
Come on guys....I drive a 2022 Tucson Hybrid and I would say that 99.5% of time the startup of the gasoline engine from EV mode is COMPLETELY imperceptible. Even while rolling. Totally different experience than the usual CVT/hybrid drivetrains
Imagine buying a Hyundai.
@@iamthedutchbro I said the same thing for many years, just like tools like you say. However, it is a very good, useful daily driver that gets excellent fuel economy. One day that may matter to you.
@@moorfan1 the old Kia and Hyundai jokes are from the past, let him live on his cave.
E-cvt is better though.
@@dragospahontu You may be right, but it depends on how you define "better". If you mean better fuel economy, then I would agree. But if you mean better driving experience, um, no.
Makes me vaguely want one even though it's not in my need set right now. Love the space since I'm a hot hatch lover that stuffed everything in my vw r32 in the day
Thanks for another great review guys. I really wanted one without having ever driven or even sat in (silly) but after seeing this i dont anymore! It seems to struggle with even slightly enthusiastic driving… strictly a cool modern get the commute, kids, and misc done type of vehicle. I think if they werent so hard to get along with the Rav4 hyrids and readily available to test drive and buy at least 30% of people who currently “need” one will move on to other options.
You would have to test drive one. I was impressed enough to put my self on a list to get one incoming.
If the 2023 Prius does not work for me then I will settle for this EX Sportage Hybrid.
Mazda CX-50 Hybrid will be pretty sweet.
I'd go for the Kia Carnival if it was an AWD plug in Hybrid.
I'd like the room of a minivan, the awd for up north winter weather plus any bonus hybrid electric motors could give like in a Toyota Rav4 Prime.
400-600mi range
I'd gladly buy that vehicle..
This shortage isn't bad though if it could last me 300k miles
Stay high my friend 🔥
@@Ecuador006 I gotta stay high with my list of car demands
funny enough that in Australia we don't even have option for the hybrid even still this date
how often do you change the temperature on an automatic climate control system? I've had a VW Jetta GLI for 11 years and I leave it on 72 Auto for 99% of the time I've driven it. I do NOT see the 2 function system as an issue. just leave it on Radio mode and you'll be fine.
it's a beast on the track. kinda like a hyena. so when do you trade your x7 for one of these?
What does Mark’s “Cuyuma” hat refer to?
Best part are the laughs....well done!
Put on 235/45r18 tires(thinner sidewall) lower it down to car level. Boom, wagon. That is what we want. Honestly i would even go thinner tires like a 225/50r18 for better comfort/economy. I bet dropping it an inch and changing the tire you can possibly get 43-45mpg.
No video on the 2023 Civic Type R Reveal?
@savagegeese Which exterior and interior design do you prefer between the Tucson and the Sportage?
Watch his review of the 2022 Tucson (which is no different than the 2023 Tucson)... it's clear he hated the exterior styling of the 2022 Tucson, though he seemed perfectly fine with the vehicle as a whole mechanically and drive-train (which is identical to the Sportage), i think because he didn't like the exterior he nitpicked at every minor cosmetic thing he could on the Tucson. Having said that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... everything he hated about the "look" of the 2022 Tucson I thought looked great, and I now own a 2023 Tucson Hybrid... I consider the 2023 Sportage my SUV's twin brother, just with a different style. Of the two, I prefer the Tucson, but I get it, everyone has different preferences in style.
Savagegeese basically said the Tucson was "too stand-outish" and in this video he liked that the Sportage "blended in" with other SUVs... too me, that's boring... I want my car to be a head-turner, not blend in with every other SUV.
My bottom line, both the 2023 Tucson Hybrid and Sportage Hybrid are great Compact SUVs. Go with whichever you can get a better deal on and/or whichever styling appeals to you the most... you can't go wrong with either.
@@wolfshanze5980 thanks for your comprehensive feedback. I purchased the Sportage. TBH I like them both. I went with the Sportage because the price was more attractive.
I love the front of the Tucson when the lights are off and the front of the Sportage is a bit busy. The rear of both are attractive however if the Sportage rear lights connected it will give it a more prestigious look. My son thinks the Tucson rear lights look like spider legs. I dont like the creases on the side of the Tucson and it will be a nightmare to repair the doors if they are damaged. Interior of both are nice but I think the Tucson edged out the Sportage because of the piano black in the center console, however the Sportage drivers display has a wow factor to it. Drove both and the Sportage has better driving dynamics.
I’m wearing my headphones and I was wondering what bird has the audacity to be chirping at 1 am outside and realized it’s the video. The Car’s okay.
When will it catch on fire?
When they install the 2.4L Theta engine... oh wait, this doesn't come with that option... I guess your joke fell flat.
Educate yourself!
Wondering if the touch screen color (purple) can be adjusted. I have it stuck in my head since seeing the Straight Pipes guys that indeed the monocolor scheme makes it hard to easily identify the different options.
It cannot. At least not yet but hopefully with an update it will.
I think that you guys would have had a much different verdict in winter. We have the sister vehicle, ‘22 Tucson Hybrid, and the winter fuel economy is atrocious. Most electrified vehicles have this issue but this one seems to be particularly bad. In February, on a drive from Milwaukee to Rockford IL, we averaged 22.3 MPG at 71 MPH AVG speed.Typically when not only driving in city, our winter averages are in the mid 20s. I just don’t think this is good enough, I expect a hit in winter to fuel economy but getting low 20s on the highway in winter could be a dealbreaker.
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So what vehicle were they actually testing at the track that day
It comes in LX, EX, and SX-Prestige trim levels. The one they tested is the EX... mid-trim.
Make a video on new 2022 Outlander please.
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Out of the brands with these types of suvs, which ones don't have that issue of lag before giving power? I'd like a car that will go when I tell it to. I'm looking at CX5, Rav4, maybe CX50, and I can't even think of what else is out there. I've heard of so many problems with chevys and ford's that I am tempted to stay away from them.
Don’t think. Get the CX-5 (or CX-50 if you can find one.).
Just avoid turbo engines and they should behave as you expect. The Mazdas are very reasonable choices, let down mainly by poor gas mileage and dated infotainment systems.
Please do a review of the 2023 Toyota Prius!
Don't really care about Type R right now. Every channel gives the same limited reveal. I rather wait til it's fully available for track, dyno, and tested without the NDA restrictions.
6:32 Ah, I see you are already wearing heat wave protection. 😄👍 (The new scourge upon humankind after the Ukraine war - hot days in summer.)
Kia hit a home run
I am getting one now, at around $43000 equivalent in EU. Loads of tech, upper middle spec, and compared to RAV4 it's a car from the future. MPGs might be lower on a KIA, but the comfort, space and style is the upside. In current marked you have to wait for the rav4 for 11 months xD at price +30% of Sportage. For lower and older tech, much more cheap plastic feel and garbage infotainment. KIA will be at my doorstep in 3 months. TY SG :)
Looks like my next car 😁
this kia looks awesome
Another great review of a car I will never buy ) At least you get a comment.
I just don't understand why they did another heavy refresh. The new Sportage released during the pandemic and it's not like they were readily available. I know they like major refresh every 2 years but this time it seems like they refreshed it a year later.
They just introduced a hybrid. I don't think they did much to the rest of the lineup.
Is this better than RAV-4 or CRV hybrid?
The hybrid setup certainly isn’t better
If you suffer insomnia, you might want to invest in the Rav-4 or CR-V... both of those designs will definitely cure your insomnia.
Sportage is easily the best in the segment. Brilliant inside and out.
What are you doing with the rope back there Mr. Goose