2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid: It’s about the money, stupid!
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2022
- MotoMan flies out to the desert to drive the all new, 227 HP Kia Sportage Hybrid. As he drives the Palms to Pines Highway, he learns, like the Hyundai Tucson, the Hybrid is better than the 2.5 gas version of the Kia Sportage & Hyundai Tucson, but also spots a theme about the impact of technology - in this case electrification on money.
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Gorgeous SUV for the money. Interior is killer, with that wide screen too! KIA knocked it out of the ballpark. Great review. Yes, Hybrid is The Way.
11:45 That doesn't bother me so much with auto climate control because I "set it and forget it" at my desired temp, and the car does the rest, so 99% of the time its just on radio controls and I do love having radio knobs close at hand.
The interior colors reminds me of my 1975 Pontiac Grandville, blue dash, white seats. So refreshing.
I think what you've actually got in that model is the in-between screen option, with the 12.3" infotainment screen, but the dash display is the smaller one with fixed speed and tach readouts, but behind a piece of plastic that makes it look like a continuation of the other screen. The higher end option is dual 12.3" screens side by side, and looks quite similar, but the dash instrument appearance is different (simulated analog gauges).
Nice review and great thoughts. That clap transition was 👌
Leave the lower panel on HVAC, and use the more convenient steering wheel controls for the audio system. I always use the steering wheel controls for the audio system on the 2020 SX for its convenience.
Great Presentation!
I talk with my hands just like this guy. I always thought it was a gift: until, some people started getting dizzy. 👍
Great review! I'm so confused as to what model to get, Must be Sportage AWD Hybrid but which ONE LOL, I want white not happy about interior selections, if I'm BUILDING a vehicle I should get what I want. Happy to see you flying....Pilot!
Motoman is really consistent no matter the day or vehicle. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Our pleasure!
Can't wait to see it here in Australia in about 6 years.
Nice video. Can I ask why the interior color showing in the video is not an option to choose for the Sportage hybrid SX prestige on KIA website??
My new dream vehicle right here. Though I’m pretty sure my triplet grandchildren would try to use that coat rack as a iPad holder.
We have one reserved just like this, hybrid SX Prestige in blue. That is how much we like it.
with the navy blue interior? I am trying to figure out if that is available in Canada.
How did you get the sx prestige in this blue white? I'm trying to customized me one and they're only giving me that orange color. I need the 360 camera, fog lights, the extra safety features and the ventilated seats, but I love that white/blue color. They're telling me that it is only available for EX, but I want the extra features.
hybrid all the way! just bought my wife a hybrid Chrysler Pacifica and it's awesome!
1:28 Its actually not the less weight that makes the big fuel economy difference, its because Kia's FWD are always significantly higher fuel economy in part because the FWD ones are quite a bit lower to the ground than the AWD ones too, which helps aerodynamics. You can tell its that because even on the 2.5 naturally aspirated one, a loaded up FWD trim with the giant pano roof and everything still gets better fuel economy than the lower trims in AWD.
real world is not always what the specs say for Kia Hyundai and I have found that from car to car it varies widely.
I think kia is being on the more conservative side when it comes to gas mileage. I have the same exact model (Hybrid EX AWD) and I get 42-43 miles per gallon. 38 miles is for high speed at the highway.
That Vesta Blue color is a real gem
I agree with you! No off road. I like my pretty cars urban and at home looking good. :)
I heard elsewhere that the headrest carve-outs are padded in order to hold tablets (so don't merely serve as coatracks). Makes sense.
What is the mpg when the a/c is always on (South Florida)?
please tell me that the high end one peice screen option comes with wireless car play vs the old school plug in version
Can you dim or even shut off the info screen separate form the instrument cluster? Or maybe a night driving mode dimmer setting?
Beautiful vehicle, but I’m still hoping to see you review the new Mazda CX-50. I didn’t know if you were able to make it to the media event last month or not, but I would be curious to see your take on this Sportage vs the new CX-50. Oh and it’s always better when you have the option to fly your own airplane to a car shoot location. Well done.
You know I love me some Coleman, but the CX-50 ain't gonna happen.
@@MotoManTV I went to the dealer last week for the same car, 38,900 dollars, can you explain to me why this difference is so big, and you say that the price you say is 33,860 dollars?
How do you think this compares to the RAV4 hybrid besides the miles per gallon which I know is close enough to make me consider either one this one looks gorgeous compared to the RAV4 but what's your take
Motoman, does it recharge the battery with the engine?
Nice job....kind of interested in the actual engine performance if you ever redo this review
My first long commute drive today. Overall i think it has just enough power. I have the hybrid awd so it sits high and i feel a bit lean when turning. Relatively quiet ride. The turbo kick makes for a pretty decent passing power. Turbo kick is a bit laggy though. Id say about a second after you press the accelerator but i think only if your are cruising on the pedal. One of my complaints would be some occasional gear engagement when i often release the gas pedal and engage it frequently during traffic. There is also a lag when coming to a stop and quickly accelerating back again. Basically it feels like the intiial acceleration seems always handled by the electric motor and then it kicks in the turbo.
I love the Kia Sportage Hybrid BUT they are hard to find in Alberta plus the Kia dealerships here have marked them up 30% of the MRSP....times are tough as it is without industries trying to take us for more money.....very disappointing ....went to Nissan and got a 2023 Rogue Platinum..... no mark up ... loved the vehicle ...can't wait till it arrives next week
The big problem with Sportage Hybrid is the color choices...on the EX it's only white, black, blue & a very dark gray. Nothing like a light gray (very popular) or silver variant?
sirs, im new to this hybrid tech as this is new to our country, but would a full hybrid much more better in your experience in the west country?
Got mine yesterday and absolutely love it. I got the prestige version with the red interior.
whats your mpg?
@@xncman 39 mpg 😊
@@dankim6497 very nice mpg
how does the build quality feel.
Gray exterior? Any updates on experience?
Its so frustrating to me that Kia kept the best interior color only on the EX model. If this interior were offered on the SX, it would be a no-brainer for me to get the SX. Now I am deciding whether to get the EX for the interior or the SX for the Adaptive Cruise Control (which is a game changer) and other tech features as I hate black interiors.
We're going to discuss Kia ADAS in an upcoming episode.
I feel that EXACTLY !
I just got this car too. The interior was red or black. Im not a fond of red nor black. Id rather have what this video had… but oh well. My first real drive is tomorrow on a long commute. I will see how it drives.
@@mikeatback which interior color and exterior color did you get? I am having the same problem. I wish they offered more interior options.
I want the light color interior with blue in the ex prestige.... nope only black & red.
So given the price diff and seating diff (lose 1), which top trim hybrid would you pick between Sorento or Sportage ?
LOVE this interior and car, but - given my experience with Piano Black in my Jetta - not thrilled with how it proliferates here.
My three most used HVAC buttons are visible in a hard form button on my dashboard of this unnamed Ford product. So that combo screen leaves those always there but the one that I don’t have is that auto. It is customizable how aggressive it is at being auto. Most of us just want a set temperature and the “auto” customizable part brilliantly does that. So I argue the buttons you need the most are readily available to you but you use them far less than I use my mechanical buttons which keeps your eyes on the road more. This is not your mothers auto temperature from the 80s. 💯
AWD hybrid also has 8.3” ground clearance
my question is which one is better between the kia sportage sx prestige hybrid vs the kia x pro prestige? can any one tell please in technology which one is better?
I'm really digging this car.
This one is gonna be a super hit in my country.because here like 400% tax.also tax based on cc.so this have less cc,higher output power.thats gonna be super value for money.and vehicle is sooo manly muscular modern,love it
Over £43K here in the UK,just OUCH!
I'm thinking of trading in my 208 Mazda 3 sport for the kia Sportage hybrid. I will keep an eye on the price and reviews to see if it has issues in time
9:11 I was told that it was like the Tuscon, where if you go naturally aspirated you get American built, if you go HEV or PHEV version its Korean imported. *shrugs*
that what I hear too
That is true, hybrids made in Korea. Non hybrids in the united states
Yes and no. Hyundai is starting to ramp up production of the engine and hybrid system in US. Check VIN to see if it starts with "KM" for Korean. But also check the sticker to where the engine/hybrid system was built.
I wish I could get that blue on one with cloth seats.
Awesome video as usual. So very informative ! I have a dilemma, this may sound silly but I’m at a cross between this hybrid in an SX Prestige or a Mini Countryman S all4. Any thoughts on this. Love the size of the Mini but love the tech of the Kia.
All depends on how long you want to keep it. Less than 5 years, whichever. Longer than 5 years, have to do the Kia.
I want this like asap
The rear quarter windows are odd. It doesn't aligned with the rear window.
How are the seats?
I agree, drop the base motor!
Hybrid beats any fuel only car. Just try it and you will be blown away by Hyundai’s approach: supreme smoothness and silence plus great performance when needed. No tweaking, no setting up the break regeneration. Just drive and enjoy. Putting the electric engine behind the transmission may not produce the best mileage economy but it makes the driving much more relaxed.
Sure but as someone who just purchased one, the payments on Kia vehicles right now are insanely high. We opted for the fuel only because the markups on hybrids is insane at the moment.
What would be the point of a hybrid if not to get the best mileage economy?
Hey your car had a big radiator fan sticking out of front. Hehehe.
I love this car the most.
From what I’ve read, the hybrid Sportage comes from Korea and the gas models are U.S. made.
You totally Glossed over the high Gloss black finish where the gear shift area is. I’ve heard it’s Very reflective with regards to the Sun at times, one reviewer said it almost blinded them. 🤔
anyone know if there's markup on this vehicle?
Question: I have the same car. How do you get the blue jeans stains out of the tan seats ?
That’s a good question
“Good design does not cost extra” *claps
Bruh
good and thorough review. They are not made in my home state of Georgia however. Hybrids are made in Korea according to dealers I have contacted all over the country. One has to order from the factory and be prepared to wait for at least six months. On top of that dealers want the market adjustment above MSRP. They are holding the cards right now.
Exactly, which is why the Tucson Hybrid is a better pick right now (end of 2022). It's stupid to pay $3K-$7K over MSRP + dealer processing fee + non negotiable dealer add on for a car that will depreciate a lot in a year. In my area I can get a Tucson for about MSRP or a Sportage for $5K over MSRP (assuming processing fee and dealer add ons are the same). Is the Kia a better vehicle, sure but is it worth the premium. Also note the Tucson Hybrid is rated higher by Consumer Reports both on the road test and overall rating.
Leased a 2023 Kia Sportage EX Hybrid on March 9 in upstate NY. All 3 local Kia dealerships had plenty of inventory with zero markups. 5 months ago, there wasn't any inventory. Window sticker states Port of Entry Philadelphia as the vehicle was made in Korea.
LMAO, I just went to a Kia dealership yesterday, they wouldn't budge from $8K markup over MSRP. PASS!
Wow, that is crazy. I am in the SF Bay Area and all of the dealers here are charging $5k over. That is pretty outrageous also, but basically all of the vehicles are like that right now. Toyota RAV4 hybrids are 6500 or more over, and the used 2021 Rav4 hybrids with 25-40k miles on them are still $5k over original MSRP! It is crazy, so I am likely going to bite the bullet on the 5k overage, since I can’t wait for 6 months for it to improve.
@@FarvaU23 I'm going to wait, I don't like rewarding that, as they make a killing on even MSRP price, since that's not only above invoice, but they also get dealer holdback and dealer cash added onto that sale price, along with other pure profit fees like documentation fees and the like.
It depends on what city you're in but there're still dealerships that do MSRP. Don't let them trick you into believing that everyone is doing it. If you're not in a rush, call around and consider even dealerships in a nearby state as it's still cheaper to fly and drive back than literally giving away $5000 which is about 4 year+ worth of gas money which negates the savings you're planning to get by going with a hybrid.
Every and I mean EVERY dealership I have been to that tells me there's a car shortage and that's why they are adding ridiculous fees, have all been calling and emailing and texting me trying to get me to come back and work out a cheaper price. If cars are so scarce and it's a sellers market, why are they running me down weeks after I went in for a simple test drive?
Don't let them fool you.
Ugh. Thanks for the real world feedback. Especially depressing on this model because the one item I did not mention in this episode: It's the best value in the Kia line up. The Seltos I felt was overpriced for what it is. The Telluride is a value rock star but two years in and you still can't get one. The Sorento is far too expensive for what it is . . . which brings us back to this . . . a better deal especially when comparing it against a Sorento.
@@MotoManTV My Kia dealership actually has 7 Tellurides on the lot, I could buy one right now, but again no price listed because when you swing by they give you the same $8K figure over MSRP "market adjustment" is what they call it.
This is the SUV I want. Just need to see if the lower trim with AWD/much better mpg, is equipped with enough options I want. Excellent review.
I have the LX AWD Hybrid and I honestly love it! I get right at 38 mpg combined and I love how quiet the ride is. I will say, I do wish I had the upgraded infotainment system. The speaker system is…lack luster to say the least. It’s still an amazing base trim level and it isn’t enough of a nuance for me to be unhappy at all.
@@Rayquenneville1 nice. Thx 👍🏼
@@Rayquenneville1 did you have to pay over msrp?
@@AeroDude73 no! I called the dealership and someone had backed out of their reservation for a car arriving that week. They gave it to me right at MSRP. I got very lucky.
@@Rayquenneville1 MSRP is around what, 28 or 29,000 for the base model?
Nice, coolers!
The best new car for the money hands down.
You're a pilot?! 😆👍
Hm... I don't know about that transmission. I thought a big advantage of hybrid was the eCVT, which is simple and usually super reliable. Sticking a traditional automatic transmission into it seems contradictory.
Is this ex or sx prestige?
Too bad all dealerships are doing like 5-10k on top of msrp, I checked one of these out and the cheapest option was over 40k
NEVER pay msrp or worse more. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
lever type shifter is more intuitive than rotary......i think
I would like to know the VIN number on this vehicle that you drove. They have not made any Sportage EX hybrids in the USA as of September 2023. I don't know how you found one made in Georgia. Still waiting on this same vehicle that you drove that I ordered January 2023. Crazy all these people test driving our vehicle and we can't get one!
I am jealous as in Europe not only do we get a shorter version, but there is only one color for the interior -black on black - this one looks much more upscale and refined. Second of all I would go for a 2.0 diesel. Which sadly is not available anywhere but in Australia. It is an excellent engine -powerful, torquey and ighter car overall with rediculosly low fuel consumption. Oh well......
In the US, diesel costs $1 MORE per gallon than gasoline.
@@ronforeman2556 wow - didn't know that. Here in EU diesel also rose a lot. So it slightly above gasoline.
Nonsense. In Europe, there's a beige version with black. I've ordered it with seat ventilation.
@@dandada3203 Where in Europe exactly?
@@GOINFINITI European taxes on fuel are significantly higher than the United States. Gasoline is taxed more than diesel, which is the opposite of the U.S. as well. Germany for example shows $2.83 per gallon for gas and $2.03 per gallon for diesel just in tax. Whereas in the United States, the most expensive state of California charges is $0.51 per gallon for gas and $0.39 gallon of diesel, plus $0.18 per gallon for federal tax on both. So Europe has on average 3-4 times higher tax on fuel.
For a moment I thought this man was savagegeese.
Had it for 24 hours already a communication code issue where the AC doesn't blow cold.
Must've been awesome to fly yourself!
Will need to do this more often:)
@@MotoManTV great way to offset expenses by using tax deductions...while further differentiating [positive] your product from other car folks.
This is a real review, not like most of the stupid ones
NICE CAR
Does it still cost $3000 to fill the gas tank though? 🤔
please do the front wheel version hybrid and is the dealer experience still awful?
Not enough views to justify another episode on this.
Try Central Kia if you are in the Dallas area.
@@gregkramer5588 I'm just a few miles down the road, please elaborate. Are they selling at MSRP, or is it something else you like about them?
@@JC-rn5tk They did not, we went to another dealer but I have bought there before and had good service. We got a better deal some where else. (+$795 but included tint) A bit of a drive but WTH.
@@gregkramer5588 Congrats on getting a deal you're happy with and thanks for the info. So many dealers here, I'll keep checking around as I'm not in a hurry.
Real world mpg?
2023 Honda CRV is redesigned. So I need a comparison with that and the 2023 Sportage EX.
Technology alone makes sportage better.
Hybrid is the better option for sure.
Dealer are charging from 5k to 7k for the hybrid not worth the extra money
what will the price start at for this.?
You clearly did not watch the episode.
I went to the dealer last week for the same car, 38,900 dollars, can you explain to me why this difference is so big, and you say that the price is 33,860 dollars?
Just do like I did. Demand more on the trade-in. It wound up costing me $30,000...
Hyundai/KIA became cars customers had to buy to brands that people want to drive.
Can't find it anywhere right now, and if you do, they want $3000 over MSRP.
I've had my Kia for over a week and it's incredible and I love it. I couldn't get my hands on a Prestige but the EX itself is fantastic. It's modern and not as expensive as the RAV4 or the Mazda cx 5 (with the markups). Plus it's 2023 which is a plus and it just seems more modern than the current vehicles available. I also hate how you have to pre-order a rav4 because they are so high in demand.
Did they have many Kia sportages available where you live? It seems like the dealerships in north Texas have very few to choose from. I was thinking about ordering a sportage but I’m wondering how long it will take
The Rav4 has a very truck like feel. An amazing difference to the NX which is on the same platform. I got 40mpg on the Rav hybrid during a recent rental.
you have to pre order the sportage as well now
What happens in 10 years when the battery dies. Was given an estimate of 10-15k for a battery replacement. Do you just throw the car away at 100k miles?
Everything's good except that Kia forgot about the adaptive cruise control. A deal breaker for so many.
The 2.5 will probably go to rental fleets.
I saw that the expectations are 70% ice.
The best version of this vehicle is still the 1.6 CRDi diesel. 😉
... which KIA doesn't offer in the North America.
Competent review but you didn’t show or describe boot capacity
FYI just over 39 cubic feet.
I'd still buy the Rav4 prime over this, simply because of the heat pump. Unless you live closer to the equator like Florida, Texas or Arizona etc....
The wait on those is super long. I bet 10 months plus and markup is even worse.
@@gregkramer5588 Yes, but it's based on the Toyota planetary gearset parallel hybrid they've been making for 24+ years. The design has changed very little. Just has a bigger motor now and a bigger battery. I had a Prius and put over 150k miles on it. It was the most reliable car I've ever owned. Worth the wait, but nothing is worth the markup.
@@GROGU123 not much to change on that planetary setup. It is very reliable and simple. I like it for sure.
That is 50k.... so not a good comparison to this car
@@tommytfaa Yep, faster but a lot more money and less tech/features.
Does it comes with a manual transmission?
A fascia only a mother could love. Overwrought styling that won't age well
Kia dealership is one of the highest msrp
It's it's not an SUV it is a crossover
Looks like a good car but I would hate to buy a Hybrid out of warranty being the batteries would cost a small Fortune to replace🤔
The battery pack is only 1.3kwh. Not the 70+ in an EV. I am not worried at all and I have own previous hybrids.
you get a 10-year warranty on the battery and hybrid components
This guy have Nokia 3310 because he is not a fan of though screen buttons.
I'd rather have less electronics for hvac ect, too many things to fail as it gets older.
Dealer near me charge 2k over the MSRP on every Sportage
Worry about battery change cost
Just wait another month if they don’t drop there prices they will go out of business soon
Hybrid technology means a driver needs to be eco conscious as driving any car at 75 mph PLUS vs 60-65 mpg will cancel economy features engineered in the vehicle. It’s not magic, folks. Wishing for efficiency is not enough. Thanks
Hunh? I am expecting to average at least 10 more than the non hybrid would.
Looks amazing, though I'd be a bit hesitant to buy a Kia
understandable as the ICE engines are still catching fire. Plus, this is a first generation hybrid.
the price of kia sportage is the price of ford kuga plugin hybrid i will go for ford kuga 😅