Marie Louise von Franz - "When A Man Has Not Developed His Anima, His Feminine Side Is Narcissistic"

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  • Опубліковано 20 гру 2020
  • Marie-Louise von Franz was a Jungian psychologist who was considered one of Jung's closest disciples. This clip from a documentary called The Way of the Dream. Full video here: • Video

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  • @GnosisMan50
    @GnosisMan50 2 місяці тому +14

    I guess this is what Nietzsche meant when he said that we are more in love with love than the beloved

  • @michaelavilliers-kendall8854
    @michaelavilliers-kendall8854 3 роки тому +41

    So painfully true.

  • @georgeskaye8709
    @georgeskaye8709 Рік тому +14

    Devastating and liberating

  • @kirstinstrand6292
    @kirstinstrand6292 Рік тому +21

    I believe this autoerotic love is very similar for the vast majority of the young (male and females) in the Collective West cultures. Only age and unhappy experiences allow for emotional growth. This is what I've learned and observed throughout my life. Young females are as driven towards sex as young men; both are driven by raging hormones - this is how humanity thrives and grows - it's biology.

    • @ayoubriyahi2770
      @ayoubriyahi2770 6 місяців тому

      The east is a bit different

    • @divine.defined.sthetics9876
      @divine.defined.sthetics9876 Місяць тому

      You said you learned and observed...; from within and then outside or vice versa ? Im being critical, is there a thought, "the world is so and so, nearly or completely ill, but I don't see something in myself. " ?

  • @kath1017
    @kath1017 3 місяці тому +2

    The movie 500 days of Summer comes to mind.

  • @RefineIrony
    @RefineIrony Рік тому +19

    I wish I could do it right. It's all I want to do, and all I can't. No one deserves my flawed fixations.

    • @dnl4238
      @dnl4238 5 місяців тому +5

      That is exactly what your underdeveloped anima wants you to believe. Do not listen to her. That is self-pity

    • @thefinaldispatch
      @thefinaldispatch 3 місяці тому

      It’s seems like tempering that desire is a more accurate perspective than eliminating it altogether

  • @mendtheboy
    @mendtheboy Місяць тому +2

    At 1:46 to the end, she mentions that as soon as the transformation starts to take place, other men with an undeveloped anima will try to keep the woman to themselves as an object, which leads to the tendecies of relapsing.
    Does that mean that as a man struggles to transform his anima, so should the woman be conscious of this transformation in order to know when she is becoming the object of another man's ideal romanticisms and autoerotic fantasies? That is for a stable relationship to be found.

  • @onwrdandupwrd5303
    @onwrdandupwrd5303 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating.

  • @michaelhussey440
    @michaelhussey440 2 роки тому +26

    I would like to ask her about women , in particular whether she agrees with the old adage :
    'The man desires the woman, the woman desires the mans desire.'

    • @johngoldsworthy7135
      @johngoldsworthy7135 Рік тому +3

      Good observation. It’s like a mating dance between both projections ie the female animus and the male anima

    • @kirstinstrand6292
      @kirstinstrand6292 Рік тому +6

      Perhaps a female narcissist desires the man's desire because only then will he serve her.

  • @kevinking7414
    @kevinking7414 2 роки тому +33

    Do you know where I can find this interview in it’s entirety? Thank you 😁

    • @kapsouris82
      @kapsouris82 2 роки тому

      It's a full audiobook

    • @fredifeinkost1985
      @fredifeinkost1985 2 роки тому +11

      "The way of the dream" von Marie-Luise von Franz

    • @iamlindavilela
      @iamlindavilela 11 місяців тому +3

      I found it split in 4 parts in a UA-cam channel called "Destructard".

  • @vonkunstler884
    @vonkunstler884 Рік тому +14

    This is amazing. I would love to see the full interview as well!

    • @Katharsis540
      @Katharsis540 Рік тому +2

      Aye. Agree. Full Interview please.

    • @callingallrunaways6008
      @callingallrunaways6008 Рік тому +1

      here it is ua-cam.com/video/yXQTDTcup04/v-deo.html

    • @Katharsis540
      @Katharsis540 Рік тому +1

      @@callingallrunaways6008 :)

    • @Gorboduc
      @Gorboduc Рік тому +1

      It's from a ten-hour series of MLvF doing dream analysis. The whole thing is up on UA-cam.

    • @iamlindavilela
      @iamlindavilela 11 місяців тому +1

      I found it split in 4 parts in a UA-cam channel called "Destructard".

  • @aumperialism
    @aumperialism Рік тому +23

    Mystics in India have a saying that a man(gender) who achieves spiritual bliss or a certain metaphysical achievement becomes feminine by traits. So this checks out perfectly.

  • @4udioFour
    @4udioFour 3 місяці тому

    Does anyone know where I can find the full interview? The link in the bio no longer works

  • @ralu1810
    @ralu1810 7 місяців тому

    Where I can find the entire interview?

  • @gormaz13
    @gormaz13 3 роки тому +17

    This lady will be back

  • @bamboor
    @bamboor 2 роки тому +4

    Please upload full interview?

    • @iamlindavilela
      @iamlindavilela 11 місяців тому +1

      I found it split in 4 parts in a UA-cam channel called "Destructard".

  • @Silentkat1975
    @Silentkat1975 11 місяців тому +4

    Since youtube has deleted the 10 hour version can anyone tell me where to find it elsewhere ?

    • @iamlindavilela
      @iamlindavilela 11 місяців тому +1

      I found it split in 4 parts in a UA-cam channel called "Destructard". :)

    • @AboveAndBeyond17
      @AboveAndBeyond17 7 місяців тому +1

      @@iamlindavilela ,Thank you very much !

  • @malakaibach
    @malakaibach 2 місяці тому

    Fuul video where

  • @manuochoa2671
    @manuochoa2671 3 роки тому +17

    Anyone who can suggest any source to check how to achieve the transformation from the black (primitive) Anima to the Golden Anima?

    • @nicholasdipilla6993
      @nicholasdipilla6993 3 роки тому +9

      Being pure and building yourself on the concept of true love.

    • @adsadsaddFQ
      @adsadsaddFQ 3 роки тому +26

      drop the needy part of yourself. do not want anything from woman, focus on being best version of yourself. enjoy the life, not the pleasures of it.

    • @nicholasdipilla6993
      @nicholasdipilla6993 3 роки тому +3

      @@adsadsaddFQ exactly , being stoïc help you too.

    • @sfranken2228
      @sfranken2228 3 роки тому +5

      & @scr scr Perhaps these books by Robert A. Johnson would help, esp 1-4; I've not read #5 (the URL takes you to a list of his books & their reviews): 1) "He: Understanding Masculine Psychology"; 2) "She: Understanding Feminine Psychology"; 3) "We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love"; 4) "Lying with the Heavenly Woman: Understanding and Integrating the Feminine Archetypes in Men's Lives"; 5) "Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding the Dark Side of the Psyche"; 5) "Transformation: Understanding the Three Levels of Masculine Consciousness".
      www.goodreads.com/author/list/6258.Robert_A_Johnson

    • @manuochoa2671
      @manuochoa2671 3 роки тому

      @@nicholasdipilla6993 "being stoic", key concept :D

  • @dawi
    @dawi 5 місяців тому +1

    Way too accurate 😮😮😮

  • @sss95547
    @sss95547 3 роки тому

    wow

  • @pixpixpix394
    @pixpixpix394 Рік тому +1

    damn.

  • @dedricklane4899
    @dedricklane4899 2 роки тому +3

    How do I improve?

  • @pirangeloferretti3588
    @pirangeloferretti3588 7 місяців тому +3

    This kind of thinking and framing of emotional and spiritual phenomena in terms of 'masculine' and 'feminine' is extremely flawed, the main cause of todays misunderstandings and 'animosity' amongst sexes and is wreaking havoc in modern western societies; it's also an expression of feminine 'narcissism'.

    • @bulbo-the-hero
      @bulbo-the-hero 2 місяці тому +1

      You realize that your last statement is framing emotional phenomenon in the same way you derided. A thing you said in your first scentence is bad. It makes sense considering that you seem to think these ideas are driving animosity between the sexes, when in reality it your own misunderstanding of the terms as well as why society has such animosity between sexes in the first place within modern western society.
      Thus that you have shown yourself to be a hypocrite, in that it is supposedly driving western society apart and is a flawed ideal, yet it is reasonable to use it to describe something. Why use the term feminine narcissism if you think the ideal of using those terms is bad unless you have some agenda. Double thinking, and double speak. I would really like to know how you think it is that it is wreaking havoc in western society because i am sure most of what you point to is a societal problem pinned to something entirely different.

  • @estaburufusah3069
    @estaburufusah3069 2 роки тому +7

    Shes talking style and accent exactly same with jung

    • @tictactoe101
      @tictactoe101 2 роки тому +3

      Swiss-South German accent is really strong. Dig up some audio footage of Einstein he talked like that too.

    • @estaburufusah3069
      @estaburufusah3069 2 роки тому

      @@tictactoe101 you're right

    • @ayoubriyahi2770
      @ayoubriyahi2770 6 місяців тому

      No that's a dialect typical to a certain place .

  • @jireking1241
    @jireking1241 3 роки тому +9

    How do you develop your anima

    • @jireking1241
      @jireking1241 3 роки тому +1

      Post that

    • @jireking1241
      @jireking1241 3 роки тому

      Great content by the way keep it up

    • @ameliaboucher598
      @ameliaboucher598 3 роки тому +5

      Record dreams and take note of female figures.

    • @freethinker79
      @freethinker79 3 роки тому +10

      Meditation combined with a virtuous lifestyle and a burning love for Truth will awaken her.

    • @freethinker79
      @freethinker79 3 роки тому

      @@ameliaboucher598 Yup. Dream-work is also very important.

  • @GuineaPig361
    @GuineaPig361 3 роки тому +10

    I don't usually agree with this stuff, but this is an exception.

    • @morganroyalty4556
      @morganroyalty4556 2 роки тому

      “This stuff” meaning?

    • @GuineaPig361
      @GuineaPig361 2 роки тому

      @@morganroyalty4556 Applying symbolic Jungian terms to real life.

    • @jimmysmith736
      @jimmysmith736 2 роки тому +1

      @@GuineaPig361 you can’t really agree with just one concept, it’s all true in parts.
      I see it everyday, daddy and mommy issues are part of what attacts people to one another.
      Some people aren’t self aware enough to even realise they have them or just don’t care.

    • @johngoldsworthy7135
      @johngoldsworthy7135 2 роки тому +7

      That’s because there a lot of new age stupidness that has infiltrated Jungian camps . Von Franz is a direct disciple of Jung with her great contributions to analytical psychology.

  • @nunu4evaaa
    @nunu4evaaa 10 місяців тому

    💫🎃😃🤲🏽🙏🏽📈🍏💬✨⚖️♋️😇🤔🗯♌️⭐️🌚🛐🌬⚛️☮️🐨💭♾🌟🌞🌈🍊🌝⛄️

  • @Crookqt
    @Crookqt 6 місяців тому

    Think this is true, until the second question :D

  • @sal2321
    @sal2321 5 місяців тому

    Even that won't be enough for a woman. Good luck!

  • @AbelR91
    @AbelR91 3 роки тому +3

    Wtf

  • @beingsshepherd
    @beingsshepherd Рік тому +1

    Sounds like an unfortunately racist analogy.

    • @Aitcheoz
      @Aitcheoz Рік тому

      Sound like an unfortunately race obsessed modern goober.

    • @beingsshepherd
      @beingsshepherd Рік тому

      Ad hominem, you lose.

    • @hii6imj5w39
      @hii6imj5w39 10 місяців тому +1