Those buttons are actually perfectly located, styled, and type for VR. This way you can find them very easily when you can't see it based on feel and location.
I just looked it up and you're right. Based on reddit the QR2 would require the base to be exchanged. I haven't done the conversion over to QR2s yet but kind of bad Fanatec doesn't just let it be swappable. I always figured they were.
Got it all together after some UA-cam and Reddit lol the buttons are pretty good for VR and although the paddle shifters arnt as good they are quite for late night driving! Cheers!
Nice rundown bro I was planning on just watching a sec of the video but I watched the whole thing. Much better info and quicker to learn from than the other big channels I watched imo Yeah I’m def going with this and not the p1 That shifter improvement was crucial. Glad to hear QR1 isn’t terrible. Just gotta make sure my dad doesn’t bend it-he likes to really put weight down onto the wheel haha
Thank you for sticking around. I'm still new to YT so I'm learning - it might be wrong but I like quick delivery of info lol. Im glad I got it. I use it any time I'm driving my car at a track and want it to feel as realistic as possible. It may not be as competitive as other wheels in sim racing but it feels realistic enough. I'll let you know how long the paddle shifters last, so far so good!
Gonna pair this with a Momo MonteCarlo 380mm wheel. My Boxster, my wife's WRX has the same wheel diameter, I am using GT7 with VR for driving IRL cars with a manual shifter. My issue with the clubsport and podium universal hubs is that once you add the modular buttons, the arms of the button modules act as a spacer between the wheel and hub, and will have uneven spacing for all 6 mounting screws for the wheel. I do need at least a few buttons to connect and assign the controller to the PS5. The cleanliness is its biggest draw, and the standalone Fanatec wheels with buttons don't come in sizes greater than 320mm. I already have the GT DD Extreme wheel that came with my Clubsport DD+ bundle, its not bad but the sticks collide with my hand when rotating for opposite lock.
I'm glad you left this comment because I'm now looking for a new round wheel setup. I feel like I've been driving way better with a round wheel than a formula wheel so I want to upgrade from the universal hub. I was hoping the podium hub the move but I need buttons and now Im worried about the spacing
@@downforcedel so, wheel, hub and QR2 arrived last week. 380mm is a big for the CSL universal hub. Shifters are reachable but I have to change grip on the wheel. I am going to use with h-pattern/sequential lever anyway so not an issue for me. The buttons require me to remove one hand from the wheel completely. The Momo Montecarlo has a very shallow "dish" and the wheel wouldn't clear the funky switch, but I used the horn holder/cover that came with the wheel as a spacer and problem solved. The funky switch which acts like the d-pad in game menus is hard to operate because part of the wheel is still in the way, but I can live with that. Once I connect the wheel to PS5, I can use the gamepad for all the menus. The toggle switches on the hub are assigned by default to changing the mini display to select and adjust TC, Fuel mapping etc, so no issues in game. The default mapping of the funky switch is to look left/right/back, but I am in VR, I can just turn my head. Connection is solid, the hub is metal in all the right places.
Good stuff! I've been eyeballing this to replace the CSL steering wheel that came in my bundle. It's not terrible but it's very noisy do to the cheap plastic build. How much damping did you notice jumping up to a 320 wheel? I actually do like the small form factor of the CSL (300mm) so I was looking at the R300 V2 bundle. I've already swapped over to the QR2 though so I may just save a little more and go with the Clubsport R300 bundle. The CSL steering wheel is fine but it certainly leaves a lot to be desired imo.
Well for me it was hard to tell if the dampening effect was from the wheel size vs the wheel weight compared to the Gran Turismo wheel I have. I am tempted to try a smaller wheel to see how much of an effect it has. Unfortunately the stand alone wheels cost quite a bit when not bundled so might have to bundle it again and have a spare hub LOL. Always want a good deal 😂. Agreed the CSL level leaves you wanting more but it fits the budget-minded. Say a person upgrading from a g29 and isn’t a professional, just wants to game or practice for hpde.
The MCLAREN and WRC rim are great value and are all you need. Together they cover every type of car including stick shift ( The WRC rim comes in handy for stick shift and older cars plus classic f1 cars ) I doubt I'll ever need another rim.
I have the csl universal hub v2 bundle with a csl dd (5nm) and I was wondering if you had any recommendations for an F1 wheel. The only rim I could find was the sparco and I was hoping for something higher quality but I don't know if that would require buying a full wheel or not.
The McLaren is f1-ish and is affordable. I do like my formula v2.5 as well but it is pretty pricey. I want to do a review on the clubsport f1 wheel, that looks pretty good too
Hi, great review, but I still can't decide whether to buy this or choose Clubsport Hub v2. This is a bit cheaper and doesn't have magnetic shifters, but I'm not sure that is worth paying more.
Both are a great choice and in my experience the magnetic shifters do feel better. However, since I drive mainly H-pattern to simulate real driving, the magnetic paddles weren’t worth it for me. So again, the decision depends as always. If you’re a competitive sim racer then it might be worth it if it means being faster and more consistent.
I've found that the McLaren wheel is faster when driving GT3 cars on AC compared to round wheels ( I have a WRC rim and a McLaren rim and those rims cover all types of cars including stick shift ) But as you said the podium is good for use with your custom rims if you own any.
Agreed. I use the formula style wheels majority of the time except when I’m trying to practice for real life. However, we were driving mustangs in iRacing the other day and I 100% wish I used a round wheel lol. Easier to fight the oversteer
The ClubSport hub does come with one funkyswitch which has up/down/left/right press and rotate 👍. It’s also modular so maybe you can install more than one? Someone correct me if I’m wrong
Thanks for the great review. I'm a GT7 player on PS5. How well do you think the button and switch layout will work on PlayStation? I'm considering buying this with a round wheel bundle or getting something like the CSL WRC or CSL P1 v2 wheel. Which option do you think will work best on PlayStation? Cheers. (I don't have the PlayStation wheel)
I tried it in GT7 and it is pretty annoying how you have to cross reference a sheet to figure out how to teach each button since it wont let you simply select the command and assign a button
Unfortunately that’s correct. For such a price it shouldn’t be that way but I guess you’re paying for the PS chip in the base and the licensing. My suggestion is just build your own kit, and if you need PS compatibility then get it separate 👍
Hello im a little late to the party but still wanna ask. Will the fanatec 320mm round wheel with V2 universal hub and the metal QR1 be satystfing experience (going from t500rs)
The wheel works good for drifting but I do notice that the button clusters do hit my hands once in a while. I think if you really wanted to use it and lose some accessibility to the buttons, you could use a spacer
Thanks for the answer! I use the QR2 base side on my gt dd pro and changed my driving experience drastically. Feels more smoother and no clipping issues. Do u plan on upgrading to the dd+? If u do.. I want to save u the money by just Buying the QR2. Wheel and base side 👍🏼. Many people are dissapointed in this overpowered piece of furniture and wished they just bought the QR2 for their dd pro.
Comparing a budget “hub” to the podium because they are the same price? Need to spend extra with the podium for any sort of buttons, then extra again for shifters…. The podium cost $400 minimum (not including the wheel) when set up. And by “niche” do you just mean entry level???
It’s based on the use case. If there are people on the sim strictly for real world practice (like me) we don’t need the buttons. The keyboard and mouse works fine to navigate the menu because we don’t need to be quick between sessions nor need to make many on the fly adjustments.
So normally I would suggest matching the wheel size to what you drive. Since he’s 7, does he do karts or anything? The full size wheels might be a bit big for him but the gt wheel is also similar in size. I would look at maybe the smaller formula wheel that can bolt onto the hub for now and as he grows you can swap out the wheel but keep the hub
@downforcedel the smallest round wheel is the 270mm with the csl hub. I think the gran turismo wheel is a touch smaller but the grip circumference looks thicker. Your right about upgrading. Can always put a larger wheel on the csl hub as he gets older.
@@ivana6141just watch out with the force you have the wheel set to. A smaller diameter wheel will mean the DD has more leverage over your hands and could hurt your son if not careful.
@downforcedel Given a choice between CSL universal hub v2, Clubsport universal hub v2 and a podium hub + paddle shifters, what would you presonally choose / consider to be greatest value for the money? I struggle with the choice, I have the mclaren wheel, but I need something for drifting and production cars. Really appreciate your input :)
Honestly, the universal hub v2 has been good enough for simracing. I've tried the podium hub at a friend's and even though it looks better, I didn't really notice a difference as far as the feel from the base to the wheel itself. There were big differences in the buttons but we hardly use the buttons when we're practicing (different story for iRacing where you need buttons for the black box, for example)
I've never tried the P1 v2 style before so I cannot say. I will say though that the versatility is in the hub because you can put any wheel, so that makes it worth it. I'm thinking about buying a P1 to test out the differences!
@@downforcedel of course there's editing involved, but you're cutting audio mid wave instead silence so there are popping sounds when you join two pieces together... If you wait for natural silence in your speech, transition would be much smoother. It was an interesting video, but this was just too distracting for me. Of course, I might be oversensitive....
@@ScorpioHR No you're fine! I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad you mentioned it otherwise I'd keep editing videos this way lol. I stutter a bit so sometimes I say things twice and its always awkward to cut out mid-sentence words. Still working on it but I appreciate you watching the video and providing good advice
@@downforcedel Yeah, if you're using software like audacity where you can see the waveform, try to find the place where the line is flat (silence) to cut, instead of mid-sentence/word. If you wanna go extra mile, you could try to fade out the sound (gradually turn the volume down) so you get to that point and _smooth out the corners_ so when you join two pieces there's no popping sound on the cut. It sounds exactly like those "awkard twitching" moves in horror movies, where it looks like the monster is "blinking" - it's "scary" not just because the horror music behind it, but because it's unnatural movement... Otherwise, it's was educational videos and I'd like you to grow out to be au par the big ones. Keep up the good work!
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Those buttons are actually perfectly located, styled, and type for VR. This way you can find them very easily when you can't see it based on feel and location.
Thank you received this after ordering the clubsport hub and was not happy, i might have to try it
Fucking joke because now i can’t figure out how to install the Qr2 with said csl hub
It took some getting used to but you are correct, they are in a good position and over time become intuitive.
I just looked it up and you're right. Based on reddit the QR2 would require the base to be exchanged. I haven't done the conversion over to QR2s yet but kind of bad Fanatec doesn't just let it be swappable. I always figured they were.
Got it all together after some UA-cam and Reddit lol the buttons are pretty good for VR and although the paddle shifters arnt as good they are quite for late night driving! Cheers!
Nice rundown bro
I was planning on just watching a sec of the video but I watched the whole thing. Much better info and quicker to learn from than the other big channels I watched imo
Yeah I’m def going with this and not the p1
That shifter improvement was crucial. Glad to hear QR1 isn’t terrible. Just gotta make sure my dad doesn’t bend it-he likes to really put weight down onto the wheel haha
Thank you for sticking around. I'm still new to YT so I'm learning - it might be wrong but I like quick delivery of info lol.
Im glad I got it. I use it any time I'm driving my car at a track and want it to feel as realistic as possible. It may not be as competitive as other wheels in sim racing but it feels realistic enough.
I'll let you know how long the paddle shifters last, so far so good!
Gonna pair this with a Momo MonteCarlo 380mm wheel. My Boxster, my wife's WRX has the same wheel diameter, I am using GT7 with VR for driving IRL cars with a manual shifter. My issue with the clubsport and podium universal hubs is that once you add the modular buttons, the arms of the button modules act as a spacer between the wheel and hub, and will have uneven spacing for all 6 mounting screws for the wheel. I do need at least a few buttons to connect and assign the controller to the PS5. The cleanliness is its biggest draw, and the standalone Fanatec wheels with buttons don't come in sizes greater than 320mm. I already have the GT DD Extreme wheel that came with my Clubsport DD+ bundle, its not bad but the sticks collide with my hand when rotating for opposite lock.
I'm glad you left this comment because I'm now looking for a new round wheel setup. I feel like I've been driving way better with a round wheel than a formula wheel so I want to upgrade from the universal hub. I was hoping the podium hub the move but I need buttons and now Im worried about the spacing
@@downforcedel so, wheel, hub and QR2 arrived last week. 380mm is a big for the CSL universal hub. Shifters are reachable but I have to change grip on the wheel. I am going to use with h-pattern/sequential lever anyway so not an issue for me. The buttons require me to remove one hand from the wheel completely.
The Momo Montecarlo has a very shallow "dish" and the wheel wouldn't clear the funky switch, but I used the horn holder/cover that came with the wheel as a spacer and problem solved. The funky switch which acts like the d-pad in game menus is hard to operate because part of the wheel is still in the way, but I can live with that. Once I connect the wheel to PS5, I can use the gamepad for all the menus. The toggle switches on the hub are assigned by default to changing the mini display to select and adjust TC, Fuel mapping etc, so no issues in game. The default mapping of the funky switch is to look left/right/back, but I am in VR, I can just turn my head.
Connection is solid, the hub is metal in all the right places.
The music in the background is unnecessary, annoying and makes him hard to understand
Thanks for the feedback! I'll try to balance it better next time.
Good stuff! I've been eyeballing this to replace the CSL steering wheel that came in my bundle. It's not terrible but it's very noisy do to the cheap plastic build. How much damping did you notice jumping up to a 320 wheel? I actually do like the small form factor of the CSL (300mm) so I was looking at the R300 V2 bundle. I've already swapped over to the QR2 though so I may just save a little more and go with the Clubsport R300 bundle. The CSL steering wheel is fine but it certainly leaves a lot to be desired imo.
Well for me it was hard to tell if the dampening effect was from the wheel size vs the wheel weight compared to the Gran Turismo wheel I have. I am tempted to try a smaller wheel to see how much of an effect it has. Unfortunately the stand alone wheels cost quite a bit when not bundled so might have to bundle it again and have a spare hub LOL. Always want a good deal 😂.
Agreed the CSL level leaves you wanting more but it fits the budget-minded. Say a person upgrading from a g29 and isn’t a professional, just wants to game or practice for hpde.
The MCLAREN and WRC rim are great value and are all you need. Together they cover every type of car including stick shift ( The WRC rim comes in handy for stick shift and older cars plus classic f1 cars ) I doubt I'll ever need another rim.
I have the csl universal hub v2 bundle with a csl dd (5nm) and I was wondering if you had any recommendations for an F1 wheel. The only rim I could find was the sparco and I was hoping for something higher quality but I don't know if that would require buying a full wheel or not.
The McLaren is f1-ish and is affordable. I do like my formula v2.5 as well but it is pretty pricey. I want to do a review on the clubsport f1 wheel, that looks pretty good too
Hi, great review, but I still can't decide whether to buy this or choose Clubsport Hub v2. This is a bit cheaper and doesn't have magnetic shifters, but I'm not sure that is worth paying more.
Both are a great choice and in my experience the magnetic shifters do feel better. However, since I drive mainly H-pattern to simulate real driving, the magnetic paddles weren’t worth it for me. So again, the decision depends as always. If you’re a competitive sim racer then it might be worth it if it means being faster and more consistent.
I've found that the McLaren wheel is faster when driving GT3 cars on AC compared to round wheels ( I have a WRC rim and a McLaren rim and those rims cover all types of cars including stick shift ) But as you said the podium is good for use with your custom rims if you own any.
Agreed. I use the formula style wheels majority of the time except when I’m trying to practice for real life. However, we were driving mustangs in iRacing the other day and I 100% wish I used a round wheel lol. Easier to fight the oversteer
Does the more expensive one have any thumbsticks? This one looks more practical.
The ClubSport hub does come with one funkyswitch which has up/down/left/right press and rotate 👍. It’s also modular so maybe you can install more than one? Someone correct me if I’m wrong
Thanks for the great review. I'm a GT7 player on PS5. How well do you think the button and switch layout will work on PlayStation? I'm considering buying this with a round wheel bundle or getting something like the CSL WRC or CSL P1 v2 wheel. Which option do you think will work best on PlayStation? Cheers. (I don't have the PlayStation wheel)
I tried it in GT7 and it is pretty annoying how you have to cross reference a sheet to figure out how to teach each button since it wont let you simply select the command and assign a button
@@downforcedel Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
That PS GT rim looks so budget, like a kid's toy and as you said it feels like it too.
Unfortunately that’s correct. For such a price it shouldn’t be that way but I guess you’re paying for the PS chip in the base and the licensing. My suggestion is just build your own kit, and if you need PS compatibility then get it separate 👍
Hello im a little late to the party but still wanna ask. Will the fanatec 320mm round wheel with V2 universal hub and the metal QR1 be satystfing experience (going from t500rs)
I think it would. I enjoy it for my "street car" driving and drifting. That's exactly how I have it set up now, thanks for the question!
Thank you so much 🙏 you dont even know how happy you made me that you responded i will get it as my main wheel for the CSL DD. Thank you again 👍
Hi,
Is it a problem to drift with this wheel? I think that the button cluster will be a issue while drifting or not? Can u please confirm..
The wheel works good for drifting but I do notice that the button clusters do hit my hands once in a while. I think if you really wanted to use it and lose some accessibility to the buttons, you could use a spacer
Thanks for the answer!
I use the QR2 base side on my gt dd pro and changed my driving experience drastically. Feels more smoother and no clipping issues. Do u plan on upgrading to the dd+? If u do.. I want to save u the money by just Buying the QR2. Wheel and base side 👍🏼. Many people are dissapointed in this overpowered piece of furniture and wished they just bought the QR2 for their dd pro.
For €50 Extra I will go back to the RS wheel, which will have full metal construction and of course magnetic flippers. Thanks 🙏🏼
Comparing a budget “hub” to the podium because they are the same price? Need to spend extra with the podium for any sort of buttons, then extra again for shifters…. The podium cost $400 minimum (not including the wheel) when set up.
And by “niche” do you just mean entry level???
It’s based on the use case. If there are people on the sim strictly for real world practice (like me) we don’t need the buttons. The keyboard and mouse works fine to navigate the menu because we don’t need to be quick between sessions nor need to make many on the fly adjustments.
Would you suggest the csl hub with the 270mm round wheel or the gran turismo wheel for my 7yr old boy? On pc by the way.
So normally I would suggest matching the wheel size to what you drive. Since he’s 7, does he do karts or anything? The full size wheels might be a bit big for him but the gt wheel is also similar in size. I would look at maybe the smaller formula wheel that can bolt onto the hub for now and as he grows you can swap out the wheel but keep the hub
@downforcedel the smallest round wheel is the 270mm with the csl hub. I think the gran turismo wheel is a touch smaller but the grip circumference looks thicker. Your right about upgrading. Can always put a larger wheel on the csl hub as he gets older.
@@ivana6141just watch out with the force you have the wheel set to. A smaller diameter wheel will mean the DD has more leverage over your hands and could hurt your son if not careful.
Why do UA-camrs play bloody music in the back ground. Good review but having to listen to that music was very annoying.
I try to avoid music in my newer videos now lol. Learned my lesson. Thanks for the feedback!
@downforcedel Given a choice between CSL universal hub v2, Clubsport universal hub v2 and a podium hub + paddle shifters, what would you presonally choose / consider to be greatest value for the money? I struggle with the choice, I have the mclaren wheel, but I need something for drifting and production cars. Really appreciate your input :)
Honestly, the universal hub v2 has been good enough for simracing. I've tried the podium hub at a friend's and even though it looks better, I didn't really notice a difference as far as the feel from the base to the wheel itself. There were big differences in the buttons but we hardly use the buttons when we're practicing (different story for iRacing where you need buttons for the black box, for example)
But is it better than CSL steering wheel (P1 v2, BMW or WRC) overall?
I've never tried the P1 v2 style before so I cannot say. I will say though that the versatility is in the hub because you can put any wheel, so that makes it worth it. I'm thinking about buying a P1 to test out the differences!
My english not so good i just order mine i have also v1 as well so i use this for my second wheel how the wheel paddles feels?
Firmer than the v1. They're still plastic but still pretty sturdy. I don't notice it hurt my driving though. The "clickyness" is similar to a g29
thanks for reply mate
@@downforcedel
P1 button locations suck for VR and high torque mode don't work.
Even with an adapter upgrade?
@@downforcedel Yep. And it only tells you that on the adapter details. It cost me and headache and still waiting on getting my money back for it.
is this pc compatible?
Yes, it is 👍
thanks for your reply, im thinking about getting this one or the mclaren gt3 one, any opinions?@@downforcedel
@@pabloandresvargassoriano2293McLaren rim for sure
This sound editing is god awful 😢
It is to my ears like Frankenstein's monster's stitches to the eye
Sorry, it’s from a livestream so there’s going to be some editing involved
@@downforcedel of course there's editing involved, but you're cutting audio mid wave instead silence so there are popping sounds when you join two pieces together... If you wait for natural silence in your speech, transition would be much smoother.
It was an interesting video, but this was just too distracting for me. Of course, I might be oversensitive....
@@ScorpioHR No you're fine! I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad you mentioned it otherwise I'd keep editing videos this way lol.
I stutter a bit so sometimes I say things twice and its always awkward to cut out mid-sentence words. Still working on it but I appreciate you watching the video and providing good advice
@@downforcedel Yeah, if you're using software like audacity where you can see the waveform, try to find the place where the line is flat (silence) to cut, instead of mid-sentence/word. If you wanna go extra mile, you could try to fade out the sound (gradually turn the volume down) so you get to that point and _smooth out the corners_ so when you join two pieces there's no popping sound on the cut. It sounds exactly like those "awkard twitching" moves in horror movies, where it looks like the monster is "blinking" - it's "scary" not just because the horror music behind it, but because it's unnatural movement...
Otherwise, it's was educational videos and I'd like you to grow out to be au par the big ones.
Keep up the good work!
At least get decent music damn Son
I’m still new to YT so not trying to get that copyright strike 🤣
It useless
So far it has been 50/50 on the opinions. Half the people I talk to also say useless