Lombardi Live! Buddy Rich Stories (Episode 29)
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2021
- Join host Don Lombardi for a special look into the life of the late, great Buddy Rich. Hear untold, inspirational stories from Don and many other elite drummers. Join us every Tuesday at 5 PM PT for a new episode of Lombardi Live!
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Buddy Rich was a savant. His playing, his memory, his technique, the list is endless. It was not normal, thank god.
Would explain his meltdowns very well could of been on the Autism spectrum
I hear you! Yet, he has a 'magical' effect on some of us drummers who cannot "copy" him, etc. After hearing Buddy, I play better for some reason, lol.
That is, depending on my mood. Sometimes he makes me want to rid myself of the drums and use the space for something more profitable.
A letter, addressed "To the world's greatest drummer", arrives at the home of Louie Bellson. He takes one look at it, and says, "well, this is obviously not for me", and forwards it to Gene Krupa. Krupa also takes one look at it, and also says, "well, this is obviously not for me", and he forwards it as well.
The letter makes the rounds of famous drummers' homes, until it finally winds up at the home of Buddy Rich. He takes one look at it, and says, "well, this is obviously for me", rips it open, and reads:
"Dear Ringo...."
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Awesome story!!!!!
haha... good1!
“Buddy was like the invention of the automatic weapon.”
Nailed it.
This group of guys discussing Buddy is just fabulous and FASCINATING!!
Loving these buddy rich series
All great people and terrific world class players with deep music/drumming credits on so many records of historical note.
My favourite drummer ever
Just a terrible person.
How does it feel to be so alone....?
Kidding, me too,
@@morbidmanmusic LOL
Well that was truly amazing! I remember when I was a junior in high school and Buddy was playing with Harry James. They were playing at Disneyland during the summer for six nights and I was there sitting in the front row just to my right of Buddy so I would have full view of his left hand. I would also be there when he fronted his own big band.
I thoroughly enjoy the Lombardi live series especially when it features buddy rich stories. Keep them coming!
Hey - is this JIm Baker from NY? SUNY Purchase?
Amazing chapter mr Lombardi !!! I was a top 40 drummer for 10 years at Disneyland during the 80’s and never missed Buddy when he came every summer. Hugs from Mexico City …
😊did you know corky Harry's first chair sax player??
I have one of Buddy's sticks that he autographed back stage after a concert in 1969 in the Uk
Thanks for sharing these wonderful stories..
I suspect that the pizza joint on Ventura Place that Frank DeVito mentions was called Mulberry Street. Buddy played there in a trio with Roger Kellaway and Chuck Berghoffer. Gruber was indeed there: I met him there and arranged to talk to him about taking lessons with him, which I ended up doing for six months with Freddy at his Tarzana home around the block from Gelsons market.
During a solo Buddy was doing, the room was dead quiet other than Buddy, with every eye on him. He was playing some unbelievable snare drum , and stopped suddenly and
said, “Why am I doing this?”, whereupon a big laugh broke out in the audience, and Buddy laughed and continued playing.
Another great moment: during some medium tempo swing tune, Buddy dropped his right stick, which had been playing the ride cymbal. He then proceeded to look for another stick, very casually, in no hurry, and it was impressive how grooving his sound was with only his feet and left hand.
What a great diverse bunch of drummers. I could listen to Frank DeVito tell stories all day.
We got to see him play twice at my old high school! He didn't hold back a bit. He was so big in music education. I remember seeing the fear or at least hyper-alert look on the young band members' faces when he called out tunes and they had to get their sheet music setup quickly. I wasn't quite aware of his tough rep at the time... it kind of amused me at the time.
Very moving memory from the GREAT Alejandro Acuña, nicely stated.
Yes.
What a cool group of dudes. Much respect.
It’s even MORE cool that they have so much respect for EACH OTHER.
Mr. Lombardi is a treasure.
So great to hear these stories! Keep the passion groovin'! DC
The greatest channel!
Danke für die tollen Geschichten!! :-)
Thank you. This was fantastic.
Great job and great stories!
LOVE IT! MAHALO! & ALOHA! See you next Tuesday! :)
Yes, it was Mulberry Street and Irv Cotler owned a liquor store on Moorpark and Fulton Street in the San Fernando Valley for a while. I think it was in cahoots with Stan Levi. It was called drum boy liquors. They’re gone now, but I used to drive by all the time as I lived up the streetfrom there
Great video! i love drum stories
Thanks so much for posting this Don. I'll be ordering the new CD for sure and I have the others already. Thanks for sharing this incredible information about Buddy that really deserves to be heard and appreciated by everyone who has ever held a stick.
why pay him money? indeed buddy's musicality deserves to be known and appreciated. if they truly believed that they would release the concert (their ownership to which is limited to that of a legal, technical one) for free instead of limiting its accessibility by making people pay him.
Great job Don...Just want to tell the young guys out there, and I think Frank would agree You can always get another wife, But Never another coffee table that Buddy played!!!
THE BUS TAPES!!!
Спасибо за такую компанию, невероятно!
I met Elvin at a jazz festival and shook his hand.. I know what Frank was talking about! Lol
The conversation between Lionel Hampton and Stan Getz is so present and interconnected, with Buddy Rich adding punctuation and hot sauce. Hate to sound like an old fart, but I don’t hear conversation and dialogue between current generation jazz players. It goes back to the old New Orleans thing and ‘Dixieland, ‘ old Chicago style jazz and 1940s swing…players spoke to each other musically on the bandstand. I look for players who can talk to each other. I brings in the audience and can warm the hearts of listeners.
On all the talk shows buddy was on he always made everyone laugh. He was much more than the worlds greatest drummer.
PUNKY'S WHIPS!! THE RICTUS IS EXCEPTIONALLY STRONG HERE!
I got an autograph from Buddy. He was sitting on his bus in the driver's seat signing things for people
And I met Freddie years later m.
Me too
I also got an autograph from Buddy on his bus. It was right after a show. Got to shake his hand too.
Frank aDeVito is one of the nicest people I have ever mwt!!!
Heard Buddy mention Chick Webb and Jo Jones, Chick was dynamic, its great to hear some of his early radio broadcasts, before he passed and Ella Fitzgerald took on the band. "Papa" Joe Jones was an excellent driver of Count Basie's orchestra for many years! I think I heard about Basie saying "If the drummer don't feel right, nothing is going to sound good"
Recent research suggests that the main way that people acquire perfect pitch is to make the connection between tones and the names of tones at a very early age… Definitely before age 5. Buddy showed an affinity for rhythm when he was 18 months old and his father did him the solid of encouraging it right then and there… Dollar signs in his eyes of course. So here you have a guy who is just learning to walk as he’s learning to play the drums. Learning in His Own Way, At his own pace. Touring the world with his mom and dad meeting all the best drummers in Vaudeville -who were the best drummers at the time. Drumming was integrated into his existence as walking breathing and eating. What could be more natural than that? It’s nothing that could possibly be taught.
Sandy Nelson mentioned a pizza place owned by drummer Ben Pollack. Sandy copped a beat Ben did on the bass drum with sticks Sandy used in playing either Teen Beat, or Let there be Drums.
Very nice. Buddy was truly a "natural". I always knew even as a young man watching Buddy, this is the greatest swing, and jazz drumming anyone will ever hear. That still holds true. I would have liked to hear more from Terry. A very impressive cat, all his own! Thanks guys!
I'll try to share something I have learned all the years of playing. You can literally hurt yourself trying to play like someone else. With all respect you could also waste your musical life or your musical soul doing that. I say use the information that you can, steal it make it yours, learn from it and use all of it as an inspiration to keep playing. The only person's chops you have to keep up with is your own!! With all respect the world does not need another Buddy Rich. The world needs you and who you are and what you do naturally. Develop your unique self and do what you are. Never stop learning. Never stop playing. Always be supportive to the younger generation and share what you have learned. I'll share this last thing for fun. Drumming philosophy by John. I call it drumosophy!! Effortless precision, with extreme conviction, committed to the art of perfect balance!! I believe that's something we consciously or unconsciously strive for. Have fun and keep your chops up my brothers!!🙏❤️🥁🙃
Well-put...should have many thumbs-up.
@@boomer3150 hi Boomer!! The reason why we started playing drums in the first place is because it is so much damn fun!! I am nobody special. I simply to this day love playing the drums. All I did was try to share what my teachers have shared with me. We all have something to give. Stay in touch and as always, keep your chops up!!🙃❤️🥁
@@johnmercurio8529 Will try. to keep the chops up, although age-related arthritis lets me know it has other plans, haha.
Yes, it's fun. Like Danny Seraphine, I started by banging pans on the floor. Got to be pretty good...rock bands in the 70s, a ''worship team" in 1999. Yet, having worked full time at the Chicago Tribune (etc), not a lot of effort went into mastering my craft. Your attitude is correct; it's still fun. However, when I see more advanced players (who have put in lots of "hours"), I sometimes want to hurl the drums from a cliff. (Would my cymbals fly like Frisbees?)😄😄
@@boomer3150 I really do understand Boomer!! There are some real good guys out there. You can tell the ones that have seriously put their stick time in. I do understand as we age the joints just don't move like they used to!! Stay in touch. Stay safe stay healthy and stay blessed my friend
@@johnmercurio8529 You as well! Thanks.
I studied with Buddy’s old friend Henry Adler. My father and I went down to South Street Seaport one summer day around 1981, to catch BR and his great band one night when I was maybe 18. Henry said “be sure to tell Buddy, ‘I love your book of snare drum rudiments,’ tell him how much you love the book!”-So as we filed down to the audience area at the seaport right on the edge of the East River-not far from the Brooklyn Bridge that Buddy himself crossed to go to his first gigs in Manhattan-Buddy had his face sticking out of a ship’s porthole on the dock, looking down at us as we lined up to get into the show. He was wearing a ship captain’s hat, kind of a funny image-he was just chilling, enjoying the late-afternoon sunshine. I shouted up, “hey Mr. Rich, I love the snare drum book! Greetings from Henry Adler!” He was about 20 feet above the dock, and just kind of shrugged and gave me a little salute. He either couldn’t make out what I said, or just didn’t want to engage. I wonder if he went into deep relaxation before each show, ‘powering down’ and storing up energy for that mind blowing solo he gave every night….he made moves on the cymbals that I still visualize and hear in my head…I was so floored from his playing (as usual…I’d seen him play a half-dozen times in NY) … it was a “what just happened” kinda moment. Meanwhile, my dad, a music professor at NYU, reflected after the show, “Buddy looks mean….he looks mean when he plays.” I can see what he meant…Buddy looks a little rough sometimes, kind of serious and scowling…focused…intense. Cheers - thank you Buddy, Rest In Power.
I could be wrong....but I believe Henry Adler wrote most of that book (if not all) and Buddy's name was on it to help sell more copies. Sounds like Henry was using you to get Buddy's goat.
@@hawkrider88 I hear you, but wrong - Henry and Buddy were close lifelong friends and Henry really did want to just pass along greetings. Supposedly Buddy willingly helped Henry promote those “buddy rich“ books - The books really were based on some of Buddy’s methodology & concept, especially the BR drum set book Henry put together
@@rhythmfield OK, thanks for the insight. I have heard many times that other than Henry, Buddy never really studied with anyone seriously and while a genius behind the drums, didn't have much knowledge at all about notation and formal drum technique. I actually have one of the Buddy/Henry Adler books but of course it's really hard to tell how involved either of them were in the actual writing of the book. I assumed it was primarily Henry's book and Buddy had endorsed it as a way to help a friend sell more copies. Thanks.
@@hawkrider88 You are 100% correct about the authorship and the education part. Henry was a full-time educator/teacher. Buddy definitely did not read music although supposedly he had some rudimentary knowledge, no pun intended… I also have heard that he was almost completely inarticulate about specific technique, but he did study a couple of brilliant New York Drummers and watched them like a hawk. Regarding snare drum technique, Buddy most admired Billy Gladstone, snare drummer and percussionist on staff at Radio City Music Hall in the 1930s and beyond. Buddy or one of the heavyweight jazz drummers stated that Billy Gladstone had the greatest snare drum roll of anyone (open buzz roll probably, but I’d assume his single & double stroke rolls were formidable) , with an incredible tone and sound that would fill that huge hall without aid of any microphones or sound system of course.
Danny is my idol.
What Buddy meant by natural was that he played by how he felt randomly with the Band,no tabs just spontanity of the moment.
What happened to the clip of Freddie Gruber that Don referenced? It wasn't there.
Don Lombardi said the Buddy Rich Show was 1984 but, I'm sure, he meant to say 1982, - Feb '82, to be exact. Terry Bozzio meant to say, I think, that BR broke his arm playing handball, not when doing karate. Frank DeVito was referring to Mulberry Street at 12067 Ventura Place in Studio City which was owned by drummer Alan Goodman. The pianist that night - 18 January 1982 - was Roger Kellaway and the bassist was Chuck Domanico.. Peter Erskine has related that, that night, he was seated with Shelly and John Guerin. While big band certainly wasn't Elvin's forte, to put it mildly, Elvin did play big band, for a short time, with Duke Ellington, right after he left Coltrane. This is meant, not to be snarky, but to clarify.
I saw a trio gig with Buddy, Roger Kellaway, and Chuck Berghofer at Mulberry Street in the early 80s. I wonder if that was the same night in 1982 to which you are referring.
Yep.
I met Jim Chapin also.
Ditto !
I can't believe they didn't play the supersonic single stroke roll from Love For Sale.
To correct myself, it wasn't Erskine who related his story of sitting with Shelly and Guerin that night at Mulberry Street, but Jeff Hamilton. My bad.
My dad was Corky played 1st chair sax any body know him?
RIP
I love the YT video of Buddy cussing out his band ! Perfection was his Passion !! I noticed the guy sitting holding the sax at the 19:05 mark in Buddy's clip, is the same sax player that played with Neil Peart at Buddy's Memorial Concert in 1991. Pretty Cool !
Do you love it when your boss yells at you at work? "Praise in public, discipline in private" is Management 101. What a crap bandleader he was. It's a miracle anyone would play in his band. Narcissism was his passion.
@@richsackett3423 LOL, He was on the Bus ! Which means it was done in a private setting. People been fired for less in the music industry. LOL, If he was so crappy, then why did they play with him so long for ? May be cause he brought out the Best in them !! Like Steve Marcus, who was one of the best Saxophone players on the planet. Which Buddy helped to develop by being a Perfectionist !! As for a boss yelling at me, if I had my head up my A** and did something wrong, I wouldn't expect them not to best my a** !! What are you to Woke for verbal discipline and may be some harsh words ? LOL, That's what's separates the men from the boys, the women from the girls !!
@@Charles53412 On the bus is in front of his co-workers, dummy. Whether you put up with that level of workplace abuse separates the men from the sheep.
You talk about perfectionism as if it wasn't a character flaw and is somehow beneficial to the creative process. I'm sure you are not a musician of any ability, not having the slightest idea what you are talking about. Buddy helped a saxophonist by yelling at him? What a joke. That's a good one.
@@richsackett3423 LOL, Who do you think the band is ? LOL, The whole comment was over your head ! He wasn't cussing one person , but the whole Band !! Name calling just shows your character ! It's pretty Low, you may want to work on that !
@@Charles53412 And abysmal punctuation shows your lack of education. Yeah, if you're a dummy, you should expect to get yelled at at work. You obviously were a lot to be so cool with it.
If you are saying the band is one guy, you don't know anything about how bands work.
"Character"? As if. Who did you vote for in the last two Presidential elections?
He seemed like an egotistical maniac to his band mates, but damn he was the best drummer ever.
What's the drummer's name who played with Sinatra in this video?
Alex acuna story some it up , Buddy ,,,,it’s natural
Greg’s belief and faith in God has kept his career strong and solid for so many years.
True!
36:50 hahahaha!
What's the difference between a pizza and a drummer? A pizza can feed a family of four!
Does anyone know the story of Buddy Rich Golfing with his friends and ends up throwing his Clubs, Bag and all into the water?
18:50 - man
I heard Sinatra send somebody to break his arm it was a dispute between the two of them
I'm reading Torme's bio on Buddy. Sinatra admitted to Buddy that he sent a couple guys to beat him up.
Phew,... so glad there was no Carl Palmer.. the Lars of his day.
What kind of rug did Buddy ware on his head ? Did it have chin straps ?
Only the cheapest and nastiest for BR. He bought the budget model without straps.
Still with that old cliche insult..? I imagine yours has ball straps.
@@morbidmanmusic Are we having a laugh about that mean old hunchback? Screw him.
Probably similar to the one you are wearing
@@Lewy3958 For sure.
All great, original sounding drummers with their own identifiable style aside from Gregg Bissonnette - who unfortunately is just a stolen mix of much better players. It’s all about having your own signature. Sadly, Bissonnette has no signature, so it’s very fortunate for him that he gets to play with a drummer who has his own voice.
To old for the backwards baseball hat look....😊
Cycyc
Seems a chasm between Afro-American and Caucasian Drummers exists, I get the sense of different playing methods between the ethnic groups too, when panels talk about drummers you see only one color or the other...as the panel members.
Get the message but too big mouth story tellers
4 legends of the drum world.
Enjoyed the BR stories but this particular presentation is very poorly managed by Lombardi. We are more than half way through and we've heard very little from Danny Sarifin one of my fav drummers especially from his days with Chicago and we've heard nothing from the blue hat guy. DeVita is going on and on and on and Lombardi is allowing that. I was yelling at the screen "shut up and give someone else a chance to talk!" If you are going to have multiple guests a good interviewer makes sure to get everyone involved. You cannot be half way through a program and have a featured guest not have said a word yet.
The one thing I never liked about BR is that was a hateful snob towards some types of music (such as country.)
we all got some close minded opinions.
That was over the top, yes.
THE BUS TAPES!!!!