Bad King John? The last Angevin King.

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  • "A very bad man, more cruel than all others. He lusted after beautiful women, And because of this he shamed the high men of the Land".
    All parts of the King John saga all put together.
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    Google doc page for references
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    Physical sources.
    Philip Augustus, Jim Bradbury.
    / 100166.jim_bradbury
    A history of Wales, John Davies
    / 120711.john_davies
    1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham.
    www.goodreads.com/author/show...
    / 31111.danny_danziger
    John, Professor Nicholas Vincent. / 218743.nicholas_vincent
    Magna Carta, Professor Nicholas Vincent.
    England in the thirteenth century, Harding, Cambridge.
    / 399777.alan_harding
    Magna Carta, Dan Jones.
    / 13844539.dan_jones
    The Oxford Illustrated History of Ireland, Edited by F. Foster.
    www.goodreads.com/author/show...
    King John, Marc Morris.
    / 169338.marc_morris
    The Plantagenets, John Harvey.
    King John, Stephen Church.
    / 538044.stephen_church
    The illustrated chronicles of Matthew Paris.
    Digital sources.
    England under the Angevin kings, Kate Norgate
    archive.org/details/englandun...
    topography of Ireland
    www.yorku.ca/inpar/topography...
    Conquest of Ireland, Gerald of Wales.
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    The Annals of Roger de Hoveden-
    archive.org/details/annalsofr...
    Annals of Ulster, celt.ucc.ie/published/T100001...
    King John’s expedition to Ireland, 1210: the evidence reconsidered
    by SANDRA ALVAREZ
    www.academia.edu/17903156/Kin...
    The Annals of Roger de Hoveden-
    archive.org/details/annalsofr...
    The Magna Carta 1215 British library
    www.bl.uk/magna-carta&lang=en
    The Cistercian Order's relationship with King Richard and King John
    www.academia.edu/28469584/The...

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  • @Embracehistoria
    @Embracehistoria  7 місяців тому +7

    Thank you all for watching, all the references are below for each episode.
    References for episode 1
    Reference 1 page 161 the year of Magna Carta, Bertrand de born.
    Reference 2 Histoire des ducs de normandie, ed. Michel, p. 105.
    Reference 3 R.howlett page 33 of Dan Jones, Magna Carta, William of Newburgh
    Reference 4 Matthew Paris, Chronica Majora, ed Luard, vol, 2, p. 668.
    Reference 5 Page xiii of John Nicolas Vincent. Intro.
    Reference 6 John, professor Nicholas Vincent page 102, paragraph 3
    Reference 7 Page 160 of the year of Magna Carta.
    Reference 8 Page 60 paragraph 2, The course of the exchequer.
    Reference 8.5 The Anonymous of Béthune, King John and Magna Carta.
    References for episode 2
    Reference 1. Page 1 of Stephen Church, King John. Page 19 of Marc Morris, King John and page 93 of 1215 the year of magna carta by Danny Danziger and John Gillingham.
    Reference 2 page 3 of King John, Nicholas Vincent.
    Reference 3 www.independent.co.uk/news/science/alpine-ice-core-economy-thomas-beckett-murder-a9437546.html
    Reference 4 page 98 of the year of magna carta. Danny Danziger and John Gillingham.
    Reference 5 page 73 of the year of Magna carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham.
    References for episode 3
    Reference 1 Kate Norgate, England under the Angevin kings, page 230 paragraph 2.
    Reference 2 The Battle of Bouvines according to William the Breton (prose account) paragraph 29
    Reference 3 Page 17 of Stephen churches, King John, page 28 of Marc Morris, King John and page 233 of Kate Norgate, England under the Angevin kings.
    Reference 4 page 240 Kate Norgate
    Reference 5 page 34 of Marc Morris and page 243 Kate Norgate.
    Reference 6 page 89, paragraph 2 of the annals of Roger of Howden.
    Reference 7 pages 106-107 of Annals of Roger of Howden 7
    Reference 8 page 261 Kate Norgate
    Reference 9 page 261 Kate Norgate
    Reference 10 page 111 Roger of Howden
    References for episode 4
    Reference 1 Gerald of Wales, on the instruction of princes page 7
    Reference 2 page 105 paragraph 1 of the year of Magna Carta.
    Reference 3 Roger of Howden, 114, paragraph 5
    References for episode 5
    Reference 1 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden page 173 paragraph 6
    Reference 2 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden page 222.
    Jim Bradbury, Philip Augustus page 92.
    Marc Morris, John page 73.
    Reference 3 Jim Bradbury, Philip Augustus page 92.
    Reference 4 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden page 192
    Reference 5 Jim Bradbury, Philip Augustus page 95.
    Reference 6 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden page 257
    Reference 7 page 314 Kate Norgate, England under the Angevin Kings.
    The Annals of Roger de Hoveden page 257.
    Jim Bradbury, Philip Augustus page 109. Marc Morris, John page 74
    Reference 8 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden page 221
    Reference 9 Stephen Church, King John page 52. Marc Morris, John page 76. Kate Norgate, England under the Angevin Kings page 315. Nicholas Vincent, John page 21.
    Reference 10 Stephen Church, King John page 52.
    Reference 11 The Cistercian Order's relationship with King Richard and King John
    www.academia.edu/28469584/The_Cistercian_Orders_relationship_with_King_Richard_and_King_John
    Reference 12 Nicholas Vincent, John page 22. Jim Bradbury, Philip Augustus page 113. Stephen Church, King John page 56
    References for episode 6
    Reference 1 The Oxford illustrated History of Ireland, R.F. Foster page 21.
    Reference 2 www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/canon-law
    Reference 3 King John, Stephen Church, page 20
    Reference 4 Gerald of Wales topography of Ireland page 33
    Reference 5 The Oxford illustrated History of Ireland, R.F. Foster page 52.
    Reference 6 Annals of Ulster U1171.10
    Reference 7 Gerald of Wales topography of Ireland page 15.
    Reference 8 Gerald of Wales conquest of Ireland page 70
    Reference 9 Gerald of Wales conquest of Ireland page 78
    Reference 10 John, Nicholas Vincent, page 15.
    Reference 11 1215 the year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 225
    Reference 12 Annals of Ulster U1185.5
    Reference 13 John, Nicholas Vincent, page 18
    References for episode 7
    Reference 1 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 452
    Reference 2 King John, Stephen Church, page 63. King John, Marc Morris, page 103.
    The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 451
    Reference 3 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 451.
    Reference 4 Jim Bradbury, King Philip, page 128.
    Reference 5 King John, Stephen Church, page 65
    Reference 6 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 456
    Reference 7 Jim Bradbury, King Philip, page 133
    Reference 8 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 457
    Reference 9 1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 154.
    King John, Marc Morris, page 109
    Reference 10 England in the thirteenth century, Harding, Cambridge, page 68
    1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 38
    Reference 11 1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 34/35/36
    England in the thirteenth century, Harding, Cambridge, page 68/69
    Reference 12 England in the thirteenth century, Harding, Cambridge, page 52/53 1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 51
    Reference 13 England in the thirteenth century, Harding, Cambridge, page 264
    Reference 14 King John, Stephen Church, page 70
    Reference 15 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 462-463
    Reference 16 King John, Marc Morris, page 112.
    Reference 17 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 463.
    Reference 18 King John, Marc Morris, page 114.
    Reference 19 Jim Bradbury, King Philip, page 133/134.
    Nicholas Vincent, John, page 27/28.
    1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 156/157
    King John, Marc Morris, page 115/116.
    King John, Stephen Church, page 86/87
    The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 472
    Reference 20 King John, Stephen Church, 72/73/74/75
    Reference 21The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 464/465
    Reference 22 1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 157
    Nicholas Vincent, John, page 29/30
    Jim Bradbury, King Philip, page 135/136
    King John, Marc Morris, page 118/119
    Reference 23 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 466/467
    Reference 24 Jim Bradbury, King Philip, page 141
    Reference 25 The Annals of Roger de Hoveden, page 533
    Reference 26 King John, Stephen Church, page 102
    Reference 27
    King John, Stephen Church, page 104
    King John, Marc Morris, page 125
    Jim Bradbury, King Philip, page 144
    Nicholas Vincent, John, page 31
    1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, page 158
    Reference 28 King John, Marc Morris, page 125
    References for episode 8
    Reference 1 King John, Marc Morris, page 148
    King John, Stephen Church page 110
    Philip Augustus, Jim Bradbury page 144
    1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham page 159
    Reference 2 The Margam Abbey Chronicle
    Reference 3 King John, Marc Morris, page 151
    King John, Stephen Church page 108
    Reference 4 King John, Marc Morris, page 12
    Reference 5 King John, Marc Morris, page 13
    King John, Stephen Church page 115
    Reference 6 Philip Augustus, Jim Bradbury page 149
    Reference 7 King John, Stephen Church page 117
    Reference 8 Philip Augustus, Jim Bradbury page 147
    Reference 9 Philip Augustus, Jim Bradbury page 150
    Reference 10 King John, Marc Morris, page 45
    King John, Stephen Church page 123
    Philip Augustus, Jim Bradbury page 152
    Reference 11 Magna Carta, Professor Nicholas Vincent page 31
    Reference 12 King John, Stephen Church page 136
    Reference 13 King John, Marc Morris, page 127
    Reference 14 King John, Stephen Church page 138
    Reference 15 King John, Marc Morris, page 131
    Reference 16 King John, Stephen Church page 150
    Reference 17 King John, Marc Morris, page 131
    Reference 18 1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham page 149
    Reference 19 1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham page 150
    Reference 20 A history of Wales, John Davies page 131
    Reference 21 King John, Stephen Church page 135
    Reference 22 King John, Stephen Church page 135
    Reference 23 King John, Stephen Church page 142
    Reference 24 England in the thirteenth century, Harding, Cambridge page 267
    Reference 25 1215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham page 167
    Reference 26 King John, Stephen Church page 204
    Reference 27 King John, Stephen Church page 212
    Reference 28 John, Professor Nicholas Vincent page 90
    Reference 29 King John, Stephen Church page 218
    Reference 30 John, Professor Nicholas Vincent page 99
    215 The year of Magna Carta, Danny Danziger and John Gillingham page 270
    King John, Stephen Church page 248
    King John, Marc Morris, page 284

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb 3 місяці тому +10

    My 23rd great grandfather, John Fitzrobert de Stokes, 3rd Baron Warkworth, was a Magna Carta surety. Blows my mind that I descend from somebody who signed the Magna Carta

    • @skinfiddler
      @skinfiddler Місяць тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb Місяць тому

      @@skinfiddler … right.

    • @JustinWAL19
      @JustinWAL19 18 днів тому +3

      I'm descendant from the female line of the Plantagenets. I believe one of sisters of the kings or daughters the records got merky when I got to that level.

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb 17 днів тому

      @@JustinWAL19 that’s so cool lol I learned my 25th great grandmother was the mother of William the Bastard/Conqueror and traced that same line back to close to the year 800. It does get murky though after a few hundred years lol

    • @user-wr4eh7gh4b
      @user-wr4eh7gh4b 7 днів тому

      @@Andy_Babbhow did you find this out?

  • @TheJennick13
    @TheJennick13 6 місяців тому +9

    I've had 3 boys & can definitely say being a younger son has a serious effect on their egos & personalities, they want to compete & surpass their older brothers & that can make all kinds of conflicts to happen- as we see w John.

  • @MarcusAgrippa390
    @MarcusAgrippa390 7 місяців тому +8

    3 hours of Embrace Historia?
    Yes please!

  • @collin4592
    @collin4592 7 місяців тому +11

    Everyone always hates on Stephen, John and Richard III. Yet I feel like they are much better than other kings in their time. Thank you very much for this series!

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 Місяць тому +4

      Agreed. John was certainly better than brother Richard, yet he is one oh the darlings. To talk about the cruelty of these 3 is ignoring that it was expected in their time. And in every case the only people who spoke against them were the barons they tried to reign in. I get sick of hearing how wonderful Magna Carta was. All it did was absolve barons of Their criminality. It certainly did Nothing at all for the Common man, other than give the barons more powers to subjugate them.

    • @JustinWAL19
      @JustinWAL19 18 днів тому

      I've never understood it. I'm a descendant of the Plantagenets though one of the daughters of Geoffrey.

    • @PaddyMac
      @PaddyMac 6 днів тому

      @@JustinWAL19A fair chunk of us are tbh. Those royalty lot spread like rabbits 😅

  • @devinwalker7740
    @devinwalker7740 7 місяців тому +4

    Great show, I can only imagine John on crusade. Would have been very interesting.

  • @skinfiddler
    @skinfiddler Місяць тому +2

    Bad enough that no future King was named John

  • @wmr9019
    @wmr9019 26 днів тому +2

    William Marshall, that name brings joy to my heart he is my 25th paternal great grandfather, I am proud to be a descendant of such a man 💖

    • @janiworthen
      @janiworthen 7 днів тому

      @wmr9019 And John was wise enough to name William Marshall as guardian to his son, Henry, in his will.

  • @djackmanson
    @djackmanson Місяць тому +1

    Nice sneaky Atun-Shei shout out!

  • @XofHope
    @XofHope 25 днів тому

    Thank you so much for such a detailed telling of this period of history! The little funny comments in the balloons are a great way to lighten up this very long documentary! I'd only suggest a bit of a more energetic narration, as the rather monochordic tone sometimes wasn't the best to keep me awake.

  • @SKILLIUSCAESAR
    @SKILLIUSCAESAR 5 місяців тому +2

    Idk how I missed this upload! Great content
    U’d really enjoy Mike Walker’s radio series on Plantagenets, if u haven’t already listened..
    The episode on ol SoftSword is a gem of dark hilarity.

  • @wimdefoort7698
    @wimdefoort7698 2 місяці тому +1

    Very impressive sir

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb 3 місяці тому +2

    … the king had to revolt. I find that just so fascinating and wild lol

  • @robertalpy
    @robertalpy 15 днів тому

    Henry III was Bad King Johns son I believe, not his great grandfather.
    I may be wrong about this, though, through watching this station and others, I likely know more about the list of British Monarchs than any American has any business knowing...lol!

  • @cyrilthompson1846
    @cyrilthompson1846 3 місяці тому +1

    Other sorces say that it was a Pope asked Henry to invade Ireland to reinstate local kings.

  • @ankhpom9296
    @ankhpom9296 Місяць тому +3

    Descriptions of John could fit Trump.